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Talks to Lucy, David & Daniel about their choice of Planet of Evil (1/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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So this could go anyway and I honestly right keys on a pot.
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Let's go. Five, four, three, two, one.
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Welcome back to have stuff with a blunt penknife the Doctor Who
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Coventry podcast. I've just said, if I'm going to
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say it again for everyone else's benefit, we're inversion
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territory today. Well for way, I'm stung Coventry
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with all with existing contributors.
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So I'm going to introduce everybody and say hello.
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And if you could tell people out, One story.
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You've got a commentary on before.
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Okay. So first of all Lucy McCool hey,
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hello. So I my first story that I did
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was the Falls of access fabulous will it?
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We have got talk about Jon Pertwee for how episodes.
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Yep. And mr.
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Dave Rennie, hello there. One of the ones I did was the
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weather is experiment. Oh, yeah.
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And my office. I you Champion that one very
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well. Well, Champion a Lazarus
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experiment, anytime. I've noticed you've started
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using that Fillmore Barlow gif as much.
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I'm going to start using this. Absolutely gorgeous, mr.
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Daniel, know it. Hello.
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The first one we did was Destiny of the Daleks.
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Well, that was bold. It was great fun.
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Just, I just sorry you were saying, sorry, I keep
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interrupting now. Go on off you go.
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Well, I was just going to my main memory of that is that you
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asked me? How long is a rare?
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Hell, I sort of panicked thinking.
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I've got to think of something funny and I said six inches.
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That's And you said, I'll tell you that we've got new super
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cool, where, and she's got a brigadier woolly on Earth but
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hey, at least I've got mine as well.
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There we go. He says we're going to turn
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around. Okay, so we're to avoid those
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all sort of jumping in a par when talking at the same time.
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Let's help to moderate this thing as best I can.
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So straight off, I'm going to ask Lucy to say what story were
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talking about. Okay, so we're talking about
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planet of evil, and now I'm going to ask Dave water for free
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people. Clamor Don's to Planet as evil
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because only quote, maybe mr. Say, heart or good friend at the
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other calls it, the planet of Richard evil.
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It's not the planet vegetable, it's actually a bloody good
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story. He hates Italy.
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Oh, he doesn't like me at all, but season 13, this one always
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gets sort of ignored, but Advocates, rather, wonderful.
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Okay. Well, I'll tell you what.
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We'll have a lot to say about this story, but should we skip
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into episode 1? Are you all ready?
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I'll take that as a. Yes, yes, no one said anything.
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Okay, so Daniel, if you could count as in, Okay here we go. 5
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4 3 2 1. Go.
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Off we go. And immediately, I want to ask
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you all when you first Watch Planet of evil and what you
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thought of it, the first time you saw it, Lucy as far as I can
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remember because I think I may have seen some repeats of Tom
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Baker Doctor, Who's further back that?
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I don't remember. As far as I remember, it was in
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the last couple of years. When I was doing my grandma, my
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grandma, Discovery and rediscovery of it.
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The first thing that cheered me about it, Is that it's written
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by Louis Marx, who is a writer who I have a lot of time for.
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And is a very, very interesting man and I really quite enjoyed
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it. I think there are things about
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it that have perhaps been done and more successfully and Other
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Stories possibly will come to that later on.
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But I did like it. I like the setting.
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I I'm a sucker for People sort of imbibing, mysterious
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substances in turning into great hairy creatures.
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So, which is, which was most satisfying after the visual
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effects, which kind of didn't quite land for me, quite so
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well, but no, and I liked it when I first saw it.
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But then I didn't. So I didn't forsee it as a
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child. I first saw it as a had felt
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About you Dave. The first time I watched this
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was the VHS release with a colon home.
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At always championed the corner rule DHS, covers that brilliant
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and this one is particularly good and I loved it as a like
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season 15. I'm getting more.
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As I grew up warranty all later. Tom, you know, the more jockey
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but Samantha is still really one of my favorite seasons and they
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visit, I mean, we've just seen the jungle and if that's the
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case, drunken Doctor Who feel stop, don't care what anyone
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says. And yeah, I just stopped.
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Who does dr. Jekyll and mr.
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Hyde really yeah and I like oh it wasn't the gothic territory
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or so. Yeah it's straight on my street.
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My you Daniel well because I didn't I think I might be the
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oldest one. I have a vague memory or
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actually a very strong memory of seeing.
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And I think it must have been the repeat of the story.
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I only remember the first few seconds of part 3, The reprise
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of the Cliffhanger and I've it was at my grandparents house in
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Scotland and it must have been the summer repeat because it was
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icy members. Very it was Daylight, but then
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just remember that bit. But like everyone else.
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My first memory is of, is the VHS in whatever year 1994.
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It came out just after Christmas, I seem to remember
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and I bought it and came home and watched its or late
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afternoon early evening with just the Christmas tree.
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It's on. And it was beautifully
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atmospheric. Okay, so that's just it's funny.
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You should say that because this is I don't know if you guys have
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a Christmas Doctor Who story, but when my tree goes up every
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year, I watch this story by the Christmas tree lights every
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single year. I why this is my Christmas
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story. Now I can understand that
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because it, yeah, I mean, you could argue that the antimatter
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monster is a bit like a Christmas tree coming out.
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But that was, that was that Grandparents had a black and
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white TV quite quite on into the instant 1980.
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So I would I would have seen it in black and white and I would
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have been three of the time and I just saw the saw these lights
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coming up and grabbing the doctrine that doctor falling.
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And I apparently I said, oh look pretty lights.
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And I remember Sarah's shouting doctor and that's and then
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rushing out the room. I don't know whether I was
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terrified. Also just really getting into it
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but yeah, it's quite so potent memory and just remember more,
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you know my grandparents they lived in In a little village
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called Lumsden up in the middle of nowhere in Aberdeen, shh.
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And so, one of my earliest memories but I don't really
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remember much about much else about the story until I saw it
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on the video. We've just detailed was what you
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have just eat out. Some very good reasons as to why
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this story might be quite popular but I think this might
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be one of the Lesser regarded stories of this season I'll go
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live what sort of nodding their heads that's Why do you think
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that might be Lucy? I don't know if it's in
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comparison to the other stories. So like sometimes a story it
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seems gets a bit sort of buried by the things around it.
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So this comes immediately after zygons which is phenomenal.
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And has the Loch Ness monster and Terry and Brilliant sort of
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non-human semi-human villains. And I suppose this is more of a
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change because it's more sort of a serious.
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It has less jokey bits in it. I'm just watching this guy
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running through the jungle and it really looks like nighttime.
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It's brilliant or well that bitch just then was like it was
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on film which I don't know the difference, but he ran through
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and they all look like they've been that.
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They will really look like they've been there for months,
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don't they? And that it's been really hard,
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and they've got nothing left. And they're all Absolutely
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shattered and haven't had a bath for ages.
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No but they do and he's it to put that level of detail into
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the sort of the makeup and stuff rather than the rather than them
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just being out there in the jungle.
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You wouldn't normally talk to you so Christine isn't it all
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the rooms are you guys totally 80s and everyone's costumes?
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They look absolutely. As if they just come out of the
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dry cleaners every week but this you turned with the sort of the
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invisible, we can't see that we can't even see the in.
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Visibility of the invisible monster yet was just nothing and
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this man screaming at nothing and then Vanishing.
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What do you think then Dave? Why would you, why would you
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think, people wouldn't like this, like you said.
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So, I heart. This is one of his least
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favorite stories. Well sighs City be that.
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It's because, as Lucy said, it's not, it's more serious.
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It has got this joke, significant and it for me,
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that's why it stands out as being one of my favorites in
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that season because like, for example, case of understanding
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hazard, I'm not seeing this as a good.
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Does that story, but that he said that stands out so much as
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you can't do that every week like yeah, I don't think you
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could do plan of evil every week because it would be too serious.
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But as I went off in the season, I think it sounds great for the
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a bit of reason. But I Echo what we see say this
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because it's got elements of Mars was once a that's called
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Terror of the zygons on the other, this one's slightly gets
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forgotten along with Android Envision in this.
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He said she talked to me about Android invasion.
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It's just downstairs. All right, I say it's because if
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you think about the other story of his in this season, you in
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Terror of the zygons, you got proton.
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You in this story. You don't have a big bad.
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You've got so many good feelings in this season.
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You got proton, you've got Sue Tech, you've got morbius and
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Solon, you got Harrison chase, you could also argue got sticker
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on the crow leader in the Android Invasion and and the guy
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who plays it really gives it his all.
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Yeah. You don't actually have a big
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villain. You duck.
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The the, it's called plans of evil but really the planet isn't
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evil because it's kind of acting on self-defense.
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So then you look at, well, is its Alomar, Who's the, who kind
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of is really? But he's really an irritant.
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He's not a villain. He's just a Jobs worth.
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I think Prentiss Hancock said he read the script and thought this
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is that this guy has been Is is in charge of the spaceship
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because it's dancing charge of the spaceship.
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So he's sort of been put in this position of authority.
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See even though he's clearly incompetent and his
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second-in-command is the experienced one and knows what
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he's supposed to be doing and I know a lot of fans don't
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particularly rape Prentiss Hancock's performance in this or
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indeed in anything else but I think he's always and I think
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he's actually really good. I think he's As it's written in
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the is a, is a sniveling. Little daddy's boy whose only in
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charge because Dad's in charge of that at the fleet and these
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he's got this job. You know, we've all worked with
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people who are kind of, you know, in the job because of who
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they're related to not necessarily because they're the
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best person for the job. And I think, I think it's
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actually quite a good performance.
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I'm just distracted by his hideous.
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Chicken Chester's. Coming out of that top.
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Oh yes, the load the low-cut tops and not really great other
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I've just noticed. Look there's a ceiling For You.
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Joe what? There's a, what ceiling shooting
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up? What is this?
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It's a two-tier set, which is a bit more interesting than your
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usual. Yeah, well there's four cents
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key with these I think they always remember the Legion of
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Doom in the wrestling, with the big shoulders of what they did.
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They get inspiration from this? I don't know, but you and Solon
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is so good. Anyway, he's yeah, he's yeah,
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he's a view. Any of you seen the 1960s
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maigret, that's on talking pictures TV, he's Sergeant.
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Luca in that with Rupert Davis and he's just fabulous, you
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know, sort of smooth Charming, but sort of a bit go.
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Goofy as well and just brilliant.
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So yes, I really like him. I really like him in this part
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and I like him, like Daniel said, well, you've got the sort
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of nervy promoted above his capabilities bloke, and he's the
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reliable older officer who's really got to run things.
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But without in the end, he pretty, he stops pretending,
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doesn't he? Stop pretending that the other
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guys in charge, but he's got to pretend that the other Chaps in
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charge when really, he's doing all the Important stuff.
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When the shit hits the fan Prentiss Hancock was an absolute
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breakdown. Doesn't he like yeah.
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Yeah the problem with him is that he's playing the same part
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as obviously planet of the Daleks and I think that's
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obviously another reason why I think people You know, that they
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don't like his performance, because he's literally come back
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and he's playing the same character.
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It's like the Steven Seagal effect where he's just playing
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the same guy Century. Always He's basically just the
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fellow at the console delivery date.
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You sure that's. Yeah, he's that's it.
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There's an episode of space 1999 where they they land on a new
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planet and he's sort of he finds this fungus and he has he has
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sort of like that. I can't remember which one it
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is. It.
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But he had a sort of trips on this, on this stuff and they all
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just he gets all quite bossy and quite aggressive.
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And there's a big fist fight with him.
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And Commander Colonel isn't there, at least.
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Yeah, he kind of God complex from the Fungus doesn't?
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Yeah, yeah. And I keep wanting to call his
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cinnamon because of Mission Impossible, Barbara brains
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character. Three of them, get stranded
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three or four of them get stranded on the platter on the
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planet. And it's like all the others
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going to going to rescue them in time before he kills everyone
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and tries to found his own Society.
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Yeah, I think the episode written by Piven, Jane Baker is
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it I think so no, no other dialogue, like there's no.
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Okay, well here we have the Glorious, Tom Baker, and
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Elisabeth sladen. Yes.
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Sarah Jane, any thoughts? Lucy.
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I really like that. I really like this team.
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I like the way that they spark off each other.
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I is it's getting sort of towards the point where Sara is
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kind of know almost had enough of this.
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Now I just this is getting a bit tiresome but she does score,
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excuse me. She does go sort of, she does
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get into the adventure once it gets going.
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And there's the lovely bit either in this episode or the
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next one, where she says, well windows open just sort of smiles
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acting and then juice - 1 XI and XI XI.
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That's it as well. She's she's she's smart and
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she's independent minded and she's it's kind of going back to
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like her an invasion of the dinosaurs or in The time Warrior
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where she was thinking it all out first self and solving it
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for self as same time. As the doctor was.
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What do you think? Dave, although chemistry is
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absolutely the air, doesn't it's Seattle's cost you - really
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really like I mean it's one in which she always seemed to have
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a good cause and Doctor shoot well even then deep and he was
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good, it was memorable, it was memorable.
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But the designer on the story it was the only person, the only
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story, they did and she became an Oscar winner for that gal.
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I mean what you're seeing are going through the jungle but
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yeah. See the jeans, just don't make
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sure every talk just like the best companion.
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Talk to his neighborhood. It's just fantastic.
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Jim Anderson won an award for that and a panda costume and
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Oscar. Lawn of that the designer on
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this story when plan of evil and I was being facetious.
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Don't worry hi. What if the doctor is Sarah
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Daniel They just wonderful out my, I mean, I'm going to repeat
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myself or what I said with Big Dave on his commentary when we
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did seeds of Doom. But I could just listen, I could
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just watch these two forever. Their their chemistry together
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is so natural that you don't that I know that Liz said about,
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you know, both both of them liverpudlians that had sort of a
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similar sense of humor, she would laugh at his jokes.
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I think this late and said this was her favorite Story girl in
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the conflict. That's right.
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I think, because whether It's because she's a bit more
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independent and a bit more clever.
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And sort of she does sort of stand up for herself in certain
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cases and and outsmarts the doctors, Lucy says, with the,
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with the window, you know, we can get out through the window.
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Yeah, they're just great together and, you know, that the
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two of them just really care about each other.
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And, you know, they they rip each other and they take the
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Mickey out of each other, but they'll do.
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They really do care for each other and it's so obvious.
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Did you guys see that interview with Tom Baker in the Elisabeth
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sladen documentary, where he almost breaks down at the end
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where he says she can't bear to watch it to see, Tom Baker
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upset, it's weird. It's really, It's upsetting
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because he's normally the life and soul of the party but to see
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him so upset. About her.
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It does say something about what she meant to him, though.
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Doesn't like he said, yeah, they would see each other in reality
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in the highest tree or something like that and they didn't know
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how to function around each other because they were used to
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saving universe together. And so he say something absurd,
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like, Elizabeth, I'm gonna buy you a fur coat or something like
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that, you know, often, they're wonderful.
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And it was grieving for a really, I mean, after she left
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the show and then of course, what happened with Louise
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Jameson that there was a, he was a Quite as nice to her as we
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know, but I think it's somewhere because he was he was lost.
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Obviously his best friend out there.
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Obviously were very close behind the scenes as well that's
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evident. And yeah so I got a quiz for all
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of you now. Are you ready?
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I'm going to ask you all to name.
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I will act to are going to name an actor in this and then I want
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you to tell me another Doctor Who story that they've been in
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because pretty much In this cast has been an another Doctor Who
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story, okay? Okay.
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So Frederic Yeager's, Professor Sorenson Lucy.
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I'm useless at this because I have no idea.
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I've watched them also. Recently, I have no concept and
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I'm just saying it's just tiredness.
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He needs a good. He needs a good rest.
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He's taking over then. Dave, Daniel helper out, he was
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in the Savages and the invisible enemy and of course, yes, of
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course, he was yet canines. Later.
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Okay. What about you and so long as
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the schinsky? Oh, I think it was seen on the
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Savages as well. He was.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Daniel, what about Prentice Hancock every story?
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That brings every story. Yeah.
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Come on. Those planets at this planet of
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the Daleks? Yeah, always.
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Had spared from space, as well. As he plays that a reporter in
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the first episode. There's one more.
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I don't think it's time Rebus operation.
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Yes he is. Isn't this console sexy?
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I think this is the best Tardis console.
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You know, the classic era. Yeah, this is the first time
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we've seen it in terms time. I don't know.
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They haven't showed on screen before it's the first story.
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Yeah, it wasn't in season 12 at all because yeah, they were on
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their phone or that you never saw insights artists.
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Yeah, yeah, and then it's in period.
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Four miles, isn't it after this? Yeah, I think pretty mr.
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Mars was me before their suffering, but stress was just
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made first. So what do you guys think of the
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contrast there between the very detailed?
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Jungle sex is what? A lot of people complain about
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that. The jungle says for is looks
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amazing and the spaceship sets look very sparse I think it's
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well it's just a spaceship, isn't it?
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Does it does it really matter? It's got buttons to press and
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it's got, you've got the sense of there being in tea rooms.
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You've got two levels on the Command Deck thing where they
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are now, I didn't get the I don't remember thinking when I
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watched it, go to the ship's a bit shit.
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I think I just thought, oh well it's to be and it strikes me
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from there also from their uniforms and stuff.
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They just Just looks a bit kind of all run down, so I don't
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know. I've never said, it's a
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spaceship need to be. I think is literally well, I
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think like, when when a person is going around their sequences
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of Thornton, where you can just see the shadow of him against
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the wall, and things like that. So they're going for like proper
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old horror techniques. Yeah, there's definitely a sense
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of it of it. Being an interior as well and
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any, and a room, rather than sort of a corner of a studio, I
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think. And to be honest, if you're
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going to spend money, you need and you've got a jungle to make
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best to spend the money on making the jungle, look as good
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as it as it does. And if you have to scrimp a
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little bit, with the, the spaceship sets, I don't think
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it's a problem and you got nice, you know, flashing lights and
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concert and control panels and things like that.
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It looks fine and two layers. And in this there's a corridor
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says well which is God steps in two layers levels to it as well.
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Now it's definitely really swimming.
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Is, oh, yeah, people do like a, when you stay out Doctor Who
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fans. Remember for the is no.
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It's very clever as well. But they have the, the hatch,
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the outside hatch on the spaceship, and then that level
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this jump down into the jungle set, so that suggests as well.
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That there's an exit to the spaceship.
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It's Roger morning. Which again, doesn't it is just
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a genius, a designer on top and just ask for them as for the
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model work. I don't have a problem with that
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but then perhaps, I'm just easily pleased are there.
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We all know, but there we go. Yeah, this drink, they could
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have got thickest string, maybe because it does look now,
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especially now that. Yeah, but that's the guy who's
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the Corporal in Android Invasion.
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Oh, Max is about to Faulkner's up Yeah, but look, there, they
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feel that said, full of dry ice and then they've got a light
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behind this basic to suggest like engines.
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I mean that's jungles just incredible.
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Absolutely. I mean, there's water in it.
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Those strange-looking quantity of it, it just looks
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astonishingly good I mean Where does he get a vision for that
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sort of thing? I mean it's just genius.
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I would have actually went to the film's theme.
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Forbidden Planet. I've never seen it.
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I've never seen it either know. Yeah, years ago.
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Yeah, memory of it because this is this is sort of an
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inspiration for this as well as know it.
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Yeah. The station to Chez Panisse.
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Yeah. Invisible monsters from the ID.
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I've also seen the musical return to the Vivid return to
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the Forbidden Planet, which is made up mostly of 1950s, pop
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songs. And quotes from Shakespeare,
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isn't there supposed to be based on the Tempest?
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It's easier? See, a vaguely, there's a
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scientist who's been stranded on the Forbidden Planet with his
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daughter and he's managed to access.
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The subconscious the monsters in the subconscious mind which is
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the monster from the eat, which is this invisible thing, that it
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becomes visible in a similar way to the creatures in this, and it
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stores as the Romantic lead. Listen, Enos Leslie Nielsen?
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Oh, before he started to before, I airplane, oh, wow.
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It's famous. It's famous.
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Also, for the robot, I can't remember what it's called, but
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it's a famous sort of step forward in science fiction,
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because it's got a Friendly robot.
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That works with the crew long before Lost in Space.
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Well, I'm probably about the same time actually because Lost
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in Space was on the Telly, wasn't it?
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Danger? Danger, Lucy, they oh I saw that
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film The Modern Lost in Space film as a sort of informal,
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double bill with the 1990s Godzilla.
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And after about 10 minutes, my brain tried to escape through my
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ears. Yeah, that phone is just off,
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and I never seen that as well and disappearing.
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What do you think of this? Because this is one of the very
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early electronic effects. Isn't it?
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The antimatter creature actually good?
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Yeah, I think it's a really effective way of realizing to
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make it look different. Have any of you ever seen the
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outtake from that Cliffhanger? Where they're going?
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Keep going? This, keep going more screaming,
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lives. I mean, she would always give it
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her all. Oh my God, she was one of the
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crew. Yeah, Morelli.
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Yeah. There's a bit in the park, but
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he points and goes outside god brother or something.
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Yeah, you know what, you know, very Impala.
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Sick. Moment there is an Indian
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character in this call. Orange it and it is.
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Michael wish are doing an Indian accent.
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Yes. I know.
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It's the seventies remember but they have a there is a black
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actor as part of the part of the crew.
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Yeah, Louis. Mahoney and adults as well, I'll
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go on Dave's gone. Eames, and then Frontier in
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spaces as your news reader and that, yes, but much more modern
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than that. What's tourism?
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Oh, yes. He wasn't white.
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Yeah, that's the old man in there.
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Yeah, that's a Brilliance another of that stuff.
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I was that that came up on the randomizer the other way because
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well, that was amazing. Well, that ends episode ones.
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Doctor, Who Trivial Pursuit off like very much for your
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participation, you've always quit.
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Hey, hey, I've made a decision on the spot here and I'm going
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to say it whilst we're recording.
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So I asked her out. Open are moderated.
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Episode one more someone else's intro, an episode to collect
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take over the juiz. So we'll be back for episode 2
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as moderated by mr. Davis, we'll be back but I'll
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cut it there pressure Dave. All right?