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Furness Show 6-8: Mollywhop Monday, Mike Sando, Brendan Sorsby situation · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Watching that game. What I loved about that game. A
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: lot of times in World Cup games, you will see
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: the a team that's real Germany level, top ten team
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: in the country in the world, playing a team that's
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: not close to that, and then it's like team not
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: close to that just sits back, sits back, sits back,
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  Speaker 1: and just tries to pry to survive, tries to survive,
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  Speaker 1: play for a zero zero draw, whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that I liked about what I saw on
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Saturday in terms of soccer, and if you're just kind
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: of a fringe soccer fan on the phone, watch that
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  Speaker 1: game had the feel of what we're used to in
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: our country in this sense. I've just told you about
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: what happened in the NHL four nothing lead blown. They
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: came back. Now, you're not going to see a four
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: nothing lead in soccer blown, but what you will see
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: are the ebbs and the flows and momentum changes. And
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: we saw that in that game against Germany, Like Germany
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: came out and they were dominating the US and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden US have the advantage and a
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  Speaker 1: kind of a back and forth affair. Made me get
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  Speaker 1: excited for what our prospects are in this tournaments, and
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  Speaker 1: I say ours as a country. That was So that
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  Speaker 1: was a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: One of the best goals I've ever seen in my
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  Speaker 1: entire life, right goal period period. Yeah, full volley by
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  Speaker 1: a professional player from about twenty five yards out that
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  Speaker 1: didn't land in the upper deck. Now, that never happened never.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how the I swear that the old
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  Speaker 1: coach and me would just it would drive over, get
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  Speaker 1: over the ball. Just get over the ball when you
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  Speaker 1: drive it. Just it's not that hard. Not We're just
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  Speaker 1: going to elevate it like we're Michael Dixon. But that
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  Speaker 1: was bar down beautiful goal. Yes, fun to watch. So
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  Speaker 1: we got a World Cup. US starts on Friday. First
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  Speaker 1: game is on Thursday, Mexico South Africa. So ware we go.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get Yeah, we'll talk about that more as a
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  Speaker 1: week goes on. So that was kind of fun as well.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, before we get into sports, how was
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  Speaker 1: your last weekend off until the end of the World Cup?
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: It was as a new father, Yeah, with a three
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  Speaker 1: month olds. Yes, how was the last day off? It was?
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty dang good. I went up to my parents'
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: beach house on Comando Island. Yeah, we had a good
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  Speaker 2: relaxing weekend. We watched some NBA.
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  Speaker 1: Did you relax with a three month old?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. No, you can't. Okay, okay, but.
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  Speaker 2: Three So I'm more so than at home because we
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  Speaker 2: had not only help myself and my wife, we had
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  Speaker 2: my parents, so they kind of helped out. We can
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  Speaker 2: kind of have a little bit more time to ourselves
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  Speaker 2: here and there. And you know, it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: good because it's like, all right, this is the calm
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  Speaker 2: before the storm sort of feeling here.
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  Speaker 1: So you're you, and you and Jackson massively busy coming up. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go in the break. I got to look
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  Speaker 1: at this new studio. Oh yeah, we have set up
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  Speaker 1: for people that missed the announcement last week. I heart
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: is doing like we're all in on the World Cup.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: And I say all in as a company kind of
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of it based out of here with our
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: two guys, with Jackson and Anders doing a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: And so part of me says, wow, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be tired of stuff. Part of me says, what a
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  Speaker 1: great experience. I can't wait. Once in a lifetime for
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  Speaker 1: two soccer loving fanatics, like the two of you weirdos
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  Speaker 1: that have a passion for it, which is awesome and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then part of me says, I don't feel bad
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  Speaker 1: for you because from basically September twenty sixth until end
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  Speaker 1: of April, I don't know what a weekend off is.
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  Speaker 4: Like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say, like what I'm to
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  Speaker 1: you yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry last week, I would say, You're like, I would
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  Speaker 2: feel bad for you, but I don't because.
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  Speaker 1: You work in sports man. That's that's I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: went through that. I mean I say went through it
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  Speaker 1: the same thing when I was doing We're doing Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: at Fox thirteen, right, it was like from basically then
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  Speaker 1: it was from training camp and that includes travel too,
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  Speaker 1: which is crazy. Yeah, training camp on you know Greg
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  Speaker 1: does that. Greg's part of that world. It's like training
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  Speaker 1: camp on you Now. I always laughed because the you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'd come off a road trip and everybody be we
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  Speaker 1: always most take the same flights on a Monday morning,
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  Speaker 1: come out of the airport and get down there and
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: there's you know, Michael Sean Dugar, there's great, oh great,
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  Speaker 1: candata Us, the guys from King TV. What have you like, Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at least we get tomorrow off, Tuesday off. Really, what's
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: that like? Because Purple she's got my ass in here
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  Speaker 1: on every day, so hey, at least you get a
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: couple of games off. But we're getting we're getting sports,
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  Speaker 1: We're covering sports, So it's a not I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to some guys on Saturday. We did a cool fundraiser
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  Speaker 1: for juvenile diabetes. My buddy Steve Murphy. Shout out to
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  Speaker 1: him for putting this on a little poker tournament. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, every now and then, you gotta be run.
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  Speaker 1: We have to be reminded, you, me, all of us
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  Speaker 1: in this building that we do sports for a living.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a bad deal. And we we appreciate everybody listening.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys tuning in every day, texting at
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  Speaker 1: four nine, four or five to one. But yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be busy the next few weeks and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be doing something you love, and that's pretty damn cool.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the fact that we're so all in
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  Speaker 1: in our coverage. So more on that as it gets closer.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, World Cup week is finally upon us. They've
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  Speaker 1: turned the security cameras on in downtown Seattle. Yay, in
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  Speaker 1: a way we go. God, it's gonna be. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: be as interested in all the other stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the complaining, the traffic, people upset than I am as
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  Speaker 1: much as anything else. That's someone who's gonna enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: from Afar like you. Yeah, it's on television, buddy, and
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  Speaker 1: the radio. It's on TV and radio. I don't need Yeah,
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: because Greg Gaspy, what's my I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think is is every game at noon here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Except for one? No, I think there's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: night games are okay? Yeah, because I would I mean
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  Speaker 1: I noon, noon, noon, eight one and five. The eight
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  Speaker 1: o'clock game is Egypt. I ran, of course.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want any part of that. I want I
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: want no part of that. I would like to see
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  Speaker 1: the match just in from Afar. Yeah, because that's isn't
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  Speaker 1: that the day that we that we isn't day supposedly? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's fun for Egypt and all right Iran. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: really that makes as much sense as last year when
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  Speaker 1: we had the Wazu night for the Kraken where they
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  Speaker 1: gave away like if you bought a special ticket like
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: a thousand people wearing Wazu cracking jerseys that were really
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: cool by the way, they were damn cool jerseys. But
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  Speaker 1: it was done on the night the Red Wings were here.
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: I thought that was poor planning. Yeah, because then it
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: looks like they're Red Wings fans.
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  Speaker 2: Is I ran as just well, to be fair, they
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  Speaker 2: did decide the Pride Game was before they knew what
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  Speaker 2: teams were playing in it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, could still FIFA. I mean, come on, guys, work together.
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  Speaker 1: I know that, just as I know that's not fair
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  Speaker 1: to anybody I know, right, I am going to one
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  Speaker 1: game at least. Yeah, you took the plunge. I did.
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 2: I I bought tickets to the round of thirty two match, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the one of the one o'clock games. I
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  Speaker 2: I mean to pick behind the curtain with with our coverage,
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  Speaker 2: there's a chance I'll be able to, you know, be
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  Speaker 2: in the stadium credentialed. There's still a lot of up
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  Speaker 2: in the air about what's going on with that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. But I wanted to at least go to
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  Speaker 2: one game as a fan, and I wanted to I
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  Speaker 2: would have been mad at myself. If the thing that
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  Speaker 2: I love the most in the biggest event in the
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  Speaker 2: world came to my city and I didn't go, I
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  Speaker 2: would be mad at my so for the rest of
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: my life for sure. Absolutely absolutely, if you get a
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  Speaker 2: chance to go, go. I know the tickets are crazy,
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  Speaker 2: like I understand all that, but we live in a
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  Speaker 2: world now where everything's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean ticket prices, food prices, gas prices. I mean,
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: just take name, name your price. It's expensive these days, right,
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: it just is so all right, we'll get into more
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  Speaker 1: mariners coming up Mulliwap Monday, coming up at one o'clock today,
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  Speaker 1: so stay tuned for that, just real quick. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Muno's was the story that gets the headlines yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: get it, I understand it. Fifth blown save in twenty
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  Speaker 1: five appearances this season. He had six blown all last year.
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  Speaker 1: He's your closer. You expect him to be Perfecto. That's
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: not going to happen, but you also expect better results
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  Speaker 1: than he's given you. There's other elements in this. One
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: of it would be his lack of usage. He's a
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  Speaker 1: guy that wants to pitch and he's told you that,
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: which is odd that they haven't listened, But yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: has said I need to pitch like I need, I
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: can't and they gave him as a five days off
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  Speaker 1: five days off in between and then go into a
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: high leverage. One of the reasons he went into high
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: leverage Chris Well didn't help, didn't record it out, gave
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  Speaker 1: up two runs. That's not good. Now here's the good news.
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  Speaker 1: Louis Castillo and Miller on the day before, both of
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  Speaker 1: the really good, both really good. So we can piggyback
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  Speaker 1: ourselves into oblivion and and tell ourselves that we don't
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: like the piggyback at least in the short term. It's
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Miller just coming off an injury was
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  Speaker 1: different than what was going on with Castillo. But Castile
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  Speaker 1: seems to have gotten right, yep. And Miller it has
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  Speaker 1: not affected him at all. So away you go like,
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's a good thing, right, that's a very good absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: So we're happy with that. But they're still in first.
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  Speaker 1: They're still above five hundred. Here come the Rangers seven
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  Speaker 1: to three, just like Seattle in their last ten game
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  Speaker 1: and a half behind the Mariners. Rangers have not decided
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  Speaker 1: to go away yet, so there's you know, mixed results
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: from the week A three and three week overall, but
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: we'll get into that more with Maliwat Monday. Cal Rawley
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  Speaker 1: up in ever yesterday, Did you see the prices for that?
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Talk about ticket prices? My goodness, I love you, Mariner fan,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't because you know what they're the same for.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Somebody was showing me, a crazy fan, Heather was showing
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  Speaker 1: me that the ticket prices for the Rainiers when he's
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: there starting tomorrow in Cheney Stadium in which the weather
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: may not be great, you know, and they're like the same.
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  Speaker 1: Like we're talking hundreds and hundreds of dollars to watch
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: a minor league game. You can watch him for like
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: on a given night when he's at T Mobile Park,
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: they have the getting you know, cheap games right whatever,
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: they call them value games, right games? Yeah, like fifteen bucks.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: And he's wearing, wait for it, a major league uniform
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: playing for a major league team. I think it's I'm
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: both confused by it and pretty impressed by it. The
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  Speaker 1: fact that that's where we are with this baseball team,
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: and that's the excitement level of the cal role we brings.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of cool. Good for listen, good for
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: the Rainiers, good for this Alcoa Sox, get some get
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: some some some dollar in the coffer there. But yeah,
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: hope and hopefully he played. Hopefully they you know, get
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: the game in tomorrow because we're getting nice little weather
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: rolling in here for the next couple of days and
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: then then it gets hot as hell for the Uh,
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: he gets hot as hell for the World Cup actually
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: when it comes in. So so that's going on, the
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: couple of things I want to get into. First of all,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Sandal's going to join us at two o'clock today. Uh,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk. We spent some time in this last week,
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: but Mike wrote a great story in The Athletic and
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: listening to their football season. Mike joins us on Mondays
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: at two uh from the Athletic does a great choice
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: part of the Hall of Fame Committee. We've talked about
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: that before with him over the years, and he's going
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: to join us about talking about Russell Wilson. He wrote
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: a big story on that and we got into it
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit last week with Russ and I think
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: he used complicated in his story or something, which is
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: kind of the word we used with Russ to try
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: to describe who and what he is and where he
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: is right now. The bottom line is, and we brought
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  Speaker 1: this up last week, he doesn't have a strong resume
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: right now. He just doesn't for the Hall of Fame. Now.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: I thought this was really interesting because somebody brought this up.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Might have been you, might have been me, might have
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: been a listener. I don't know. It was a couple
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: of days ago and can't remember, so my apologies four
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  Speaker 1: nine four to five one on the Tama Dodge text line.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: But would television help I think it was you, Yeah,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: would tell like is it helped Bill Cower Tony And
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: it helped Tony Dungee And Mike actually wrote in there
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: that it could, which is wild because Mike is a
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: numbers guy and not just like touchdown passes innratives. And yeah,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl part of it hurts him, And we'll
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: get into that with Mike coming up at two o'clock.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl situation hurts him and actually hurts him
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  Speaker 1: a lot, really, so we'll get into that and why
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: coming up at two o'clock, why it hurts? But it
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  Speaker 1: does so, and I just have a question and we
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: can fire this out there at four nine four or
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  Speaker 1: five to one. He is truly one of the most
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: polarizing figures Russell that we've ever had in this city,
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: good and bad, because he had both in his career. Yea,
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: he was. He had the highest of highs, the lowest
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: of low's on the way out of town. But I
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  Speaker 1: just I want to know this how and four nine
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  Speaker 1: four to five one also will love to hear your
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: voice talk back Mike Red microphone away you go, how
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: hard are you rooting for us to be in the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? And I and and so I had
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: I had before I can ask you, I got to
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  Speaker 1: answer it myself, and I said, for me, it's an afterthought,
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  Speaker 1: it really is. I don't care. I really don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Now listen, I like to see more of our guys
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  Speaker 1: get in. It's a good poll question. I'm gonna put
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: it up on the Twitter, okay, and I'll retweet it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: uh tag me in that, will you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do.
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  Speaker 1: Ian asked his question today. I'll give you credit, don't
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: thank you. I need to do that every now and then.
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  Speaker 1: How hard are you?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Here's this?
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  Speaker 3: For me?
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  Speaker 1: It's an afterthought, Like I said, I'm rooting for Holmgren
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  Speaker 1: I really like for me and I've I think I've
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: talked about this a lot of times all Star Games,
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: that kind of individual awards. I don't usually care about them,
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  Speaker 1: but there's always exceptions of the rule. Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: kind of one of those. I mean, I just I
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  Speaker 1: want so desperately for my com to get in. All
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  Speaker 1: of us do here, co worker, good guy, We've got
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  Speaker 1: to know him really well for a while, really really
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  Speaker 1: like him, and really think that his first of all,
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  Speaker 1: his resume says hall of Fame, especially when you put
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: it against other coaches already in. I don't think, you know,
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: I want to see Marshawn get in. I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just for the speech that would come with it,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: that's so true, But I also think Marshawn was you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether you want to look statistically, whether you want to
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: look at the impact he had. There was a period
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: of time, not long but kind of like Drell Davis
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: but Jerrel Davis's Offensive Player of the Year, But there
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: was a time Marshawn Lynch was the most impactful running
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: back in football. Impactful like he made a difference in
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: every game. The way he ran set the tone and
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  Speaker 1: all that his numbers are are borderline. Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: do you have I think he had one the look,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: I believe he had one, But I want to see Marshall.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Cam has a case. Earl probably has
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  Speaker 1: a better case than Cam, but not as strong as
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: it could have been. He kind of was like Russ
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  Speaker 1: fell off at the end, Sharm's going to get in
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  Speaker 1: at some point we first, Yeah, Shirm's going to get in,
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of a moot point. Yeah, and Bobby's
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  Speaker 1: a no brainer. He's a first ballot. If he's not,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: then there's a massive problem with the system. If you
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: just look at the first team all pros, Bobby Wagner,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: he's just not even it's not even a debate. But
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: but what about Russ. I think there's a different perception
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: of him from fans, from you guys listening than maybe
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: from us in the media and others. But but how
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: hard are you rooting for him to get in the
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? How important is it for you as
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: a Seahawk fantasy Russ in the Hall of Fame. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very I really don't care. I really don't. If he
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  Speaker 1: gets in, great be cool, you know, and I'll go back.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I'll go back in our town. We as a city,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: and the Mariners Is organization are, let's be honest, pretty
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: damn responsible for Edgar Martinez getting into the Hall of
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Fame one hundred percent. And I think we all were.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I think we were all invested in that, right, Like
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: we were all invested in Edgar getting in because I
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: remember doing the show when he didn't get in the
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: last year, and remember doing and I was like, in
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: leading into Softy, is he going to get in? We're
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: all waiting and stressed. He didn't the next year waiting
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: and he got in. And the similar situation is going
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: going on with Felix right now. By the way, Felix
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: feels a little bit more less stressful for this reason
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: talking to Eno, Sarah's has a vote and others. But
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: he knows he's your nerdy numbers guy. He's he thinks,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: he thinks he's in within the next two years, and
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the numbers kind of prove that over the years, how
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: it's voted about what percentage he got right, right, I
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Felix will get in, whether it's this year, next year,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: whenever he's he will get in. But Ross is a
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: different story, Mike's story that he wrote, and well, we'll
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: get into with him, is really his drop off in
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: production and level of play was historically bad. Like everyone's
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: going to have a drop off at the end of
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: their career. Sure, Bobby Wagger's not the same player. He
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: was still playing, but he's not the same player. That's
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: why the Seahawks were able to walk away from him
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and frankly upgrade presently with Ernest Jones. Initially wasn't Ernest Jones,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: it was the other two guys are in Miami now
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: but Baker and Dotson, But it was still that's what
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: they're going to do. But Russ's drop off was historically bad,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and Mike kind of talked about that. So can he
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: still get in? There's a chance, But we'll get into
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that a little bit. But I'm just curious, for a
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Seahawk fan, how hard are you rooting for him to
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: get on? Like how important is it for you as
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: a twelve And I again, I just think that there's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: a different perception with him about him than there is
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: with you know, from a fan standpoint than us. You
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: look around the stadium, you see a lot of threes,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: even to this day, and not even worry three, right
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Russ three, So we'll get your thoughts on that as well.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: All right, we come back. I am fascinated by this.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring a local tie into it because the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby situation, Texas X quarterback was ruled eligible today
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: by a judge in Texas. There's so many layers of this.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: This is another case of across the country people are
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: losing their mind. But but this is where we are.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: We should not be surprised with college athletics today. Used
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to be college athletics who are wait about wait about
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the college athletes now, it's not that. We'll talk about
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: that next.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Now back to Ian Furness on your Home for the
• 17:47
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• 18:00
  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, Katie. First with you show brought
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to you by so'll call me Casino and Hotel, Say
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: no casino dot com four on four five one, coming
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: out to text line. Get the Mulliwop Boys coming up
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: at two at one o'clock today. Mike Sando at two
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: talking about Russ's Hall of Fame candidacy, which we'll get
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: into a little bit more. There's a poll question up.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: What's the pool question? Say Andrews all right?
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Exact wording is question posed by Ian forness me on
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: today's show. Just give me credit there. Make sure everyone
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: knows that you know you do. Come up some good
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: topics right now and then yeah, yeah, not often.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But are you.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Rooting for Russell Wilson to make the Pro Football Hall
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: of Fame?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: No?
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Or I don't care and this is not Do you
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: think he'll make it into the Hall of Fame? Are
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you rooting for him to make it in the Hall
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of Fame?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: If you vote yes, that means you want him to be.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: If you vote no, it means you are rooting that
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: he doesn't. My vote would basically be I don't care.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And I don't care. It means don't care. Either way
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: he gets in, great if he doesn't not gonna lose
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: sleep over it. I think that's what I voted as well,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like Mike Homeran not getting in yet. I wouldn't go
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: as far as say I lose sleep over it, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: it bothers me Yeah, really bothers me. Bobby doesn't get
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: into the first ballot, that'll bother you. That'll bother me
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: big time.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I think of all the players that at least have
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: a somewhat of a shot to make it to the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame during that Seahawks tenure, or just the
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Seahawks in general, the LLLB time, Yeah, I think he's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the one I care least about. Yeah, I want Bobby
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to make it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'd rather see Cam. I'd rather see Cam by the way,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: just so you can won't get it. Cam won't get in.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: His credentials are not even close to being Hall of
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Fame worthy. Who has more credentials? Him or Russ? Russ?
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Just longevity. Okay, although the last few years long. That's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that's what's hurting. Heard something we'll get into this next
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: couple of segments. So example number one and fifty of
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: college sports are broken. Happened today. Brendan Sore has been
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the Texas Tech quarterback. Given his eligibility back by a judge.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: He's going to miss two games. More on that in
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: a second, because that's that's really the case. That's like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the cherry on top. What did he do? He bet
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on college football ninety thousand dollars nine hundred bets, including
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: betting on his own team Indiana when he's with the Hoosiers. Now,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the NCAA may appeal this appeal. This was an appeal
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: of another appeal that they may now appeal. This is
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: where we are, Okay, So two things. First of all,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: this is I love this story for this reason. It
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: just continues to make a mockery of what is a mockery,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and that's the NC DOUBLEA. But understand with the NC DOUBLEA,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it's the NCAA is a collection of the schools, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: those schools number in the thousands. Now, obviously some schools
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: have more juice than others. But NC DOUBLEA encompasses schools
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and Division one, Division two, two, Division three, and if
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you want to separate, the football is Division one, subdivision fcs,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: then Division two, then Division three and student athletes all
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: across the country. The NCAA is run and operated by
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the schools. But the funny thing is the NC double A.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: When things for some member institutions aren't going their way
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: or they want to just make changes without taking a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: look at the greater good, what do they do well?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Every conference has its own television contract. They're all on
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: their own entity. If it behooves them to leave and
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: go join another conference, they do so. If you can
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: poach another team from another conference, you do so. And yes,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Wazoo in Oregon State did the same thing. I understand
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: this is a general to everyone's guilty yet, right, But
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now Soorsby has got everybody
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: up in arms. Now they should be up in arms. Sure,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the dude bet on his own team. Now he wasn't playing.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: But if you want to talk about inside information, that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: as inside as it gets. A player like, there are
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: just certain things you can't do. Like Chris brought this
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: up earlier, I mean, the NFL bans guys for life. Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the baseball Baseball, NHL, NBA, they all like, this is
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: not good. But are you surprised. The funny thing is
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: everyone's like losing their mind. Well, it's Texas, and of
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: course the original judge in this case was actually a
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech alum. He recused himself. He was replaced by
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: an alum of Well, I mean you're in Texas, another
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Texas school, in this case, the University of Houston. Here's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the fun part that judge gave him a suspension of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: two games and he can come back. He's gonna miss
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Abbeli and Christian Oh God, and the beaves of Oregon State.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Those are the first two games for Tech Tech. You
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: know what the third game is Houston. The judge is
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Alma mater. Now that tells me. The judge just looked
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: at like he didn't just good old boy Texas hit.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Whatever his ruling was, he wasn't part. I mean because
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: if he if he would have said as a three
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: game suspension, then I'd really think there's a problem. Sure,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: this is a Big twelve problem. This is an ncuble
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a problem. This isn't everything problem. You know, lawsuits only
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: matter if they're enforced by the conference, not by the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: NC double a case in Point Mountain West versus PAC twelve.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Or let's go local for a second. Let's go local
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for a second, shall we? Shall we refresh everyone's memory.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Demon Williams wanted to get out. Guess what happened Big
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: ten in Washington? And and good for them? This is yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: good for them, right good? This is not this is
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: not me throwing stones that you do. It's the opposite,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the opposite. Good for them. If that would have been
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the NCAA probably would have demand Williams to be at
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: LSU this year or Miami or wherever he would have gone,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: probably LSU, I think, but they enforced it. NA NCAA
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: has no enforcement power, none whatsoever. Texas Tech, frankly should
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: just say listen, even if you even if we don't win,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you're just still going to suit up and play. What
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: juice does the NCUBA have none? I can't do anything.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: They have none, that have zero juice. It is a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: system that is so broke. But the only people that
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: have anybody to blame are the schools themselves. I don't
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: feel one bit of sympathy for any school in the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: country that's crying, complaining and bitching and moaning right now
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: about Brendan Soresby being eligible. Do I think he should
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: be eligible? Hell no, not even close, not even close.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He bet on his own sport. If you ask, if
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you go to the Seahawks right now, you know what
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: they can't like. If you're a pr guys, you can't
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: bet on the NFL. You can't go up still qualm
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: me casino and do that talk about your own situation.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I my contract, every contract that people work for the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: NHL team. It's pretty black and white in there. You
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: cannot wager on the NHL. What do I know?
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Not much right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Now insider information from me? Well, you know what, that's right.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: In fairness, we are prevy as part of the broadcast
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: crew of like earlier in the day, if a guy
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is going to be out sometimes not all sure, but
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: every now and then, so it makes sense. Yeah, And
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I take it, damn you know, I take
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it serious. I don't want to lose my job over that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And there's many times where I kind of catch myself
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, we're talking hockey.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I've got three o'clock does it all the time.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but like I would love to put wagers
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: on the Stanley Cup finals right now, right, I would
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: love to do. I can't not allowed to why it
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: would ruin my eligibility to work there. Brendon Storesby knew
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that he should not be eligible, but they found a judge,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and they found a courtroom, and they found an appeal
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and he is. And now he's going to play more
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: than likely September eighteenth against Houston in the Big twelve opener.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I think I love part of me loves it because
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: it's a big old f you to the Big twelve,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the rest of the conference and the rest of the country.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I find it hilarious that people even in like SEC
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Country and Big ten country are complaining about it. You
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: guys make your own rules every damn day. You want
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to be the power too. But we are so lost
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: right now in college athletics, to the point of if
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you're a college fan right now listening Husky fan, Cougar fan,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Duck fan, doesn't matter how much, how often are you
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: just guilted by the school boosters, other fans, etc. Hey,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you really need to chip in and pay for what
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to pay for a guy that maybe you'll be there
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: for a year and then bail. You're not doing your
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: job as a fan if you're not contributed. I hate that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: It makes me sick to my stomach. And I understand
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: that's the way we are where we are, and I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: understand it. I get it, but I hate it mostly
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: because of stuff like this, Like there are no rules,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it's just who can write a bigger check. Texas Tech
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Wright's one of the biggest checks in all of college sports,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: if not the biggest, for all their sports right, football, basketball,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: massive check. They also had a million dollar softball pitcher
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: this year. The young lady that started her career I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: think at Stanford and ended up not even getting to
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the didn't even win a title. It's a power races,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: an it's an arms race right now. But this guy
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: bet nine hundred times on call and now he's going
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to be eligible, and nine hundred bets ninety grand so
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: not big bets, but still it's a lot. And now
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: we're all up. Now we're upset. We're upset about this, Okay, rightfully,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: So have we been upset about other things? Not really?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Not everyone, not everyone if it benefits you. Here's the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: thing with the NCUBA and college supports. Now, if it
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: benefits you, you know who's not upset Texas Tech, right,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you know who wasn't upset when the PAC twelve imploded,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the four schools that went to the Big Ten. You
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: know who wasn't upset when you poach teams from the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Mountain West Wazoo in Oregon state because we brought in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the best of the Mountain West. You're only upset if
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it affects you in a negative way. Nothing's going to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: change with the nc DOUBLEA. You're going to keep being
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: asked to write bigger checks, give more money. Willner said
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it last week. He's on with Softy and Fain. I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: assume he's on again this week. He wrote a story
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: last week about we're getting closer to the power too,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and then and then the other eight in college football.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: If that happens, We've said it before, then what you've
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: got to do is just cut all ties. You don't
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: see you guys play each other sec in Big ten,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: everyone else plays everybody else. Oh, by the way, you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: also on your own for basketball and softball and women's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: basketball and soccer and lacrosse and golf. I don't know
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: what can fix the problem. I don't know how much
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: more it can get broken. But today it's pretty broken.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It's pretty broken. And when we come back, I'll give
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you an example of how really screwed up it is.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, it also involves, wait for it,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: another team from the Big twelve next.
• 29:27
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• 29:30
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• 29:37
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• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I got a great text with somebody. I'll read it
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: during friend of mine texted meter in the break about
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: we're just discussing with Brendan Soresbyan just how messed up
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: college athletics? All right now? And I'll read it during
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the during the during our text at two thirty. But
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it just it kind of reiterates, underscores what I was saying,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the guilt trip you're given, and it's I think people
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: are just at some point going to throw their arms
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: up in the air and say I'm good, I'm done,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: especially from the non power whatever you want to call it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the power ten schools in the country kind of what
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: it is, right right, not just Power two conferences, the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Power ten. Anyway, I told you something, how screwed up
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it is. I'll just wrap it up at this and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: think it off my soapbox for now. This is I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: found this coming out also hilarious with the NCAA said,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I said, Big twelve, I'm sorry, ACC, I get my school.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Try to keep up smu is in the acc Ladies
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, have you seen the story. Does the name
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Jordan Adams anything to you?
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: No?
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: He was a former first round pick of the Anaheim
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Angels of Orange County, Okay. Signed a four
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: point one million dollar contract out of high school about
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: eight years ago. Bounced around minor league. He was high
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: recruit in football and baseball. I believe it's going to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: go to Clemson and play both. Ended up taking the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: four point one mill and went through the world of
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the minor league baseball, ended up playing thirty eight games
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. He now is going to try
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to play football this fall for SMU. He's twenty six
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: years old. Twenty six years old. In theory, he would
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: have four to play five. He could finish his college
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: career at thirty one, although there's rules against that. I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: thought twenty eight I believe was the cutoff. This is
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: why Senators Cantwell and Cruz in Congress and everyone else
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: is getting involved. And if you think for it, and
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you know what he's waiting for NCAA approval, does it
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: matter at this point? Like what juice does it? If
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you're SMU and you're not in the same conference as
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech and Brendan Soresby, you're like, cool, we want
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this kid to come in Hell of an athlete just
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: didn't work out for baseball, so we're gonna put him
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: on the football roster. Probably don't have to pay him
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that much because he made four point one already. Whatever
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you're paying on is whatever. Yeah, and he's going to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: come in and play football for us. And at the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: NCAA says no, we'll just sue him. Probably. Wait SMU,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: where are they at Texas? Find a judge and he'll play.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: When did it stop? When did college athletics stop being
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: about college athletes and college students specifically? When did that stop?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think it still exists in some sports. I was
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: in some sports. I watched Texas in an Oregon last
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: night college baseball in game two of their Super Regional
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and Texas came from behind in the eighth to win it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Awesome game, like really entertaining game. They jumped on the
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Ducks early that four nothing, Oregon chipped away, came back,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: tied it up, took the lead five to four, and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: then lost at six to five. Great game, entertaining as hell, right,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And I kept watching them looking at you know, baseball
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: has like forty guys in the roster back in the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: day when it's only scholarships. There's only eleven and a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: half scholarships for that team. If you're a potential first
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: round pick, maybe a coach will offer you a full ride.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Now you're down to ten and a half for the
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: other thirty nine guys. I kind of look there. I'm like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: those are actual student athletes, Like, those are actual student
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: athletes playing on a big stage. Yes, a lot of
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: them are getting nil money. And you look at the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: stadium in the ballpark in Texas. Oh my god, it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: major league caliber. I'll tell you this hell of a
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: lot nicer and better than Sacramento is right now. Yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: and I would say it's bigger, but on the same
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: part as like the Cheney Stadium, which is a palace
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: for minor league baseball. Great place, right, But I'm watching
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: this thing and I'm like, those guys are actual student athletes,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the majority of them. There's like I think they said,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: out of those two teams, there might be there might
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: be four major league players. So about five percent of
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the athletes on the field have a chance to probably
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: get to the big leagues. And that's higher than the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: average team, way higher. Two really good teams. Yeah. In fact,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the one guy for Organs supposed to be really good.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: He struck out like eight times in the two games.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, that's a student athlete. That's what college
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: sports are about. It's not about Brendan Soresby, who's a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: hired gun. Three schools now, I think it is in
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: tex Texas third school. It's not about him. It shouldn't
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: be about Jordan Adams, but right now it is. I
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: wish there was a solution, an easy solution, but there
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: just isn't. But in the meantime, you, as a fan
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of whatever school you're a fan of, will be told
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: if you don't write a check and don't give big money,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: then you're not a good fan, even though there's no
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: loyalty on the other end. Forst said, I use this
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: term loosely student athlete, but you're writing the check for right,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: which is just so back. Imagine that. Imagine that We've
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: talked about this just real quick. The NFL, Hey, we
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: really need to keep Devin Witherspoon. We want to keep
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: him here. You guys, even if you're not a season
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: ticket holder, we need Seayawk fans all chip in and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: help pay salary. Okay, you know what that makes a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: hell of a lot more sense than college You know why,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: because Devin Witherspoon would sign a contract that keeps him here.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: It keeps him here. That isn't the case in college sports.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, my eighteen year old son
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: just went to committed to go play wherever. Guess what
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: he's doing competing against Jordan Adams, who's a grown ass
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: man at twenty six. It's broken and it ain't getting
• 35:26
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  Speaker 1: That's basically he's a Knicks fan at that point, right, orange,
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  Speaker 1: orange and blue. I guess so, Ian, I guess, so?
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  Speaker 1: Did you see the stuff with Stephen A. Smith today?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: They at like, I don't I don't need a ring.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you get a ring? You don't work for
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• 37:25
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you guys behind the curtain one more time.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: So when we do Molliwop Monday we get we do
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  Speaker 1: it on zoom with the boys with Chris and Nathan,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: because it's just the audio is better. We hear you
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: when you complain about audio, Joshian, Yes we do, Johan,
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  Speaker 1: we hear you. So do we go with the zoom
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  Speaker 1: because audio is better. My friend Chris Crawford every week
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: will give us a random name a lot of times,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: a random hockey name that he puts his name I
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: see a Nathan Bishop, I see an Ian Frenesse. We
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: use Ashley Ryan's account her she's Anders zarly Zilabski is
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: otherwise known as Chris Crawford today. Former NHL defenseman died
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: way too soon at the age of forty nine from
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: very Kyle Buschlake like viral infection, like scary. But Chris,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I got one for you, buddy, with Zarlely You ready ready.
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• 39:02
  Speaker 1: really like one of the nicest human beings on the planet.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Good guy. He also ended his career in North American
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: pro hockey, playing for the Houston Arrows of the International
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Hockey League slash American Hockey League. The next year, his
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: teammate Laine Lambert, no kidding, Yeah, I get you. N
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I saw Zarley's a Labski pop up there, and this
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: means nothing to anybody but me and you. But I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: saw that pop up. But I'm like, that's that's a
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: random reference. I get. I get the random reference today,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: so I didn't have to look up a pronunciation or anything. Yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: good old Lazarley is a labski good dude, all right,
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• 40:09
  Speaker 1: get you guys on now, because ten minutes ago we
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: find out that the Marriors have made a roster move.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bliss has been activated he was there as a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: tactic squad and JP Crawford has been put on the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: injured list. So we'll get to that cal everything else
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: in just a couple of seconds. But a three and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: three week we'll get deep into the Andre m Andres
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: munial situation as well. But let's just get a recap
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: of the week that was started good, ended not so good.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Nathan Bishop fire Away.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: I've been trying to think about this season the last
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: couple of weeks through Chris's lens of demands for the
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: Seattle Mariners to go to the World Series and what
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: that implies. And I know that it's probably been like
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: overt for a lot of people that this is theoretically
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: one of the best teams in the American League and
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: therefore baseball. My brain doesn't work that way. As a
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: lifelong a Marinas fan, it's really hard for me to
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: think about the idea of the Marias being truly good
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: or at least better than most of the teams in baseball.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: But I was watching this week, and I was watching
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: them lose this series to the Tigers, who are terrible,
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: and kind of sleepwalk their way through that last game
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: against the Mets, which was fine. You know, they'd won
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: eight games in a row and those streaks have to end.
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: But I just kind of feel like I'm watching this
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: team go through the season, which is really it's approaching
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: a halfway point in a couple of weeks here, so
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: we're getting into it now, and I just can't shake
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: the feeling that, even though they're in first placing the
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: American League West, that says so much more about the
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: rest of the division than it does the way the
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: Mariners have played to this point, and it just feels
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: like they are leaving a lot of meat on the
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: bone thus far through this season, because I looked at
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: the schedule and I think the last time the Mariners
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: played a series where I thought that they were not
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: the better team, just player to player going down the
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: roster was Atlanta, which was a month ago. So they've
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: got a month without playing a team that's better than them,
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: and I'm just ready for them to find fourth gear
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: and get this thing going and to prove that they
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: can be a truly great team. Not a team that
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: wins the division by default, and not a team that
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: you know, kind of goes gets the two seed or
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: whatever by winning eighty eight games in the worst American
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: League and living memory, but a team that proves that
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: it's it's truly one of the more talented teams in
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: franchise history, and maybe the most talented one since the
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: two thousand and one and two thousand and two, two
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: thousand and three teams, and I think they can get there,
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: but I don't want to take that incredible late half,
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: late season hot streak they seem to always have for granted,
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: you can't just expect that to happen, So I don't know.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I think that the week was okay.
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: Last yesterday's loss sucked where I know you said we're
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: gonna talk about Munyo's but overall, my mood is just
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: that you know they're they're underperforming. That's how it feels
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: to me that this team is thirty four and thirty two.
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: They're a way more talented team than that. They should
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: be winning more baseball games. So that's that's kind of
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: my mood. Nothing's just spoiled, but man, I'm ready to
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: see a hot streak that really really launches them into
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: the upper levels of the.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: League, which they had and then obviously what happened yesterday,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: got those six inches I mean not even six inches away,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: like an inch away from a catch and probably feel
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit different about how that series ends, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: you get out of there with a series win, but
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they do lose at and now they're sitting at thirty
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: four and thirty two. Chris Crawford ak is always a
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Labs ski fire away.
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: It is amazing how different it feels. Because if you
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: do come out of that game with that win and
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: you get another series win, which would have been four straight,
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: it would have been something where you take a look
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: and you see just how well Bryce Miller and Luis
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: Castillo both pitched in those games. You saw Colt Emerson
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: do some really nice things. How much better you feel?
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: But instead, no, now you've lost three out of four
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: and it's another road series loss, and it's just crazy
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: how much worse this team has looked away from T
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: Mobile Park than it has playing on the road. And
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: you know, most teams win more often at home than
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: they do on the road. But it's not just the results,
• 44:04
  Speaker 9: it's the eye test. They do not pass the eye
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: test on the road very often. I mean that first
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: game on Friday, I know it was a close game
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: for a little while, but you just you never really
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: felt like Seattle was going to win that game. Saturday,
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: Bryce Miller is so good it didn't matter. And then Sunday,
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: you know, you can't help, at least for me, Like
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: I was kind of watching it through my phone because
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: I was at my niece's recital. But you know, I
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: kept looking at that score and thinking, boy, they've really
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: had some opportunities to blow this one out of the water.
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: What's gonna happen here? And well, unfortunately what happens is
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: is a series loss. They just they just have not
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: looked the part away from Seattle. And we are deep
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: enough into the year now where this is now for me,
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: a big long term concern and I'm not expecting them
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: to win fifty road games on the year, but I
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: am expecting them to look much more competent away from
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: Seattle than they have over these last or these first
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: two months of the season.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Some injuries, which we'll get to in a bit too.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they're not a healthy team, but really,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, who is right? I mean Yankees. Yankees are
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: missing Aaron Judge, so a lot of guys are out
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and that's just that's nature of sports. Chris, I'll stick
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: with you, Andrews and I talked about this in the
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: very first hour of the show today. And by the way,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: shout out Chris for filling in for Greg on Friday,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: who is filling in for Chuck on Friday, and then
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Greg and then with little technical issues, Chris did a
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: bonus segment, as we called the Chris, that was a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: bonus segment. That's what we call in the business. But
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: hell of a job is always filling in and just
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: a flipping natural you are so great job. So Andre's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Munnell's pitches on the first of June against the Mets.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: He has a perfect outing. He goes one inning, no hits,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: no walks, one strikeout, throws twelve pitches. Thanks for coming.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It was a non safe situation. Doesn't pitch again until yesterday,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: so he goes what five six days in between appearances.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yesterday goes two thursd of inning and one hit, two runs,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: both earned two walks. So even though it was like
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you're a whisker away from making a catching game out
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: of there, you still put a couple guys on the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: base and through nineteen pitches, Chris, there's a lot to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: unpack you with. Andres Munnos. I guess let me start
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: with this. How culpable is the staff not getting a
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: guy some work earlier at some point because correct me
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Isn't this a picture that has expressed
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: publicly that he needs the work. Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So this is a tough one because I don't
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: want to take all of the blame. In fact, I'm
• 46:29
  Speaker 9: not going to. I'm there is some blame here that
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: goes to Andre's Munos without question, right because he's got
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: a pitch better. Like he is a twenty seven year
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: old who has been one of the best relievers in
• 46:41
  Speaker 9: baseball over the past three or so seasons, who has
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: not been anything close to that. That being said, the
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: staff has to do a better job. It's okay to
• 46:51
  Speaker 9: use him in mop up duty, it's okay to use
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: him in a game where you're down for or up for,
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: just to make sure that he gets that work. And
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: you know, the thing with Andres Munos is, for the
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: non baseball nerds, there's two different terms that get used
• 47:08
  Speaker 9: for throwing strikes. There's control and there's command. And control
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: is the ability to throw strikes. Command is the ability
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: to throw quality strikes and put the baseball where you
• 47:20
  Speaker 9: want it to be. This is the difference in Andres
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: Munos right now. His walk range is actually one of
• 47:25
  Speaker 9: his best that he's had this year. It's in the
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: bottom forty ninth percentile. It's not great but it's at
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: eight point seven percent. Well, last year when he was
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: having an elite year, it was eleven percent, and it
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: was in the eleventh percentile. The difference here is even
• 47:40
  Speaker 9: a guy who is missing bats at an absolutely elite rate.
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: He has a wifth percentage of forty two percent, he
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: has a chase rate of thirty seven point eight percent,
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: he has a strikeout rate of thirty three point seven percent.
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: That's all in the ninety seventh or percentile or better.
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: And he's still throwing plenty hard, but he's catching way
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: too much of the plate eleven point nine percent barrel rate,
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: which is beyond gross, and then a hard hit percentage
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: of forty seven point five well below average. He's just
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: not throwing the consistent strikes. Maybe he would throw more
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: consistent strikes if he's being used in a better pattern,
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: if you are getting him in the game, there's no
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: reason for him to have that much of a delay.
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: There just isn't Like, especially when you're working with like
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: a weird bullpen because of the piggyback situation and whatnot.
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: You've got to get andres munials healthy and happy because
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: he's so important for you. We can talk about whether
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: you should move him from the closure role. You should
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: talk about whether or not the other players are more
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: valuable not being used in that closure role. But Andres Munials,
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: one way or another is going to have to be
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: an incredibly important part of your bullpen and they have
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: to get him right. And also Andres Munios just flat
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: out cannot catch his mund much of the plate as
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: he has over these first few months.
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: Nathan, I agree with everything that Chris said. I think
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: that was he always does a great job diagnosing stuff.
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: That was one of my favorite diagnosedes that he's but
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: on air, I thought that was outstanding. I would also
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: just say to echo your point. In six inches he
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: catches the ball and we just laugh about it. It's
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: like a Fernando Rodney safe, you know, like it's like,
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: oh wow, that was wild and crazy and my heart rate, God,
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: it's a w you know what I mean. And that's
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: kind of the nature of the closer, both the closer
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: role and the reliever role. Written large, these guys they
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: perform in such small sample sizes, So like, especially as
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: a closer, you're doing a small sample size role in
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: the highest leverage part of the game. So any sort
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: of random. And this is not to say that that
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: he was just unlucky. He walked two guys, he didn't
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: pitch well. Everything Chris said about his command absolute one
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: hundred percent correct, But also, man, he just has And
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: this goes back to them not using him all that often.
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: We're talking about a handful of things. His number, his
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: numbers of what's happened based on if you look deeper
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: into the data, what you would have expected to happen
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: in a non and unlucky neutral environment.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: There's a huge difference there.
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: So I think there's no reason to really panic about
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: Andris Muno's I think that what we need to see
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: is pretty much what Chris said. They need to get
• 50:18
  Speaker 8: this guy more regular work, and they're being hamstrung because man,
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: Chris really knocked this one out of the park. So
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: everything I say is just echoing what he said. But
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: it's hard to do this because you're already trying to
• 50:28
  Speaker 8: juggle having quote unquote too many starting pitchers. So they've
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: got this piggyback situation. Well, now they've got all of
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: their relievers back from injury, with Brash and Spire back,
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: and so it kind of feels like this is one
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: of my favorite old school Jerry to Poto truisms if
• 50:41
  Speaker 8: you've been around for the ride, is there's only so
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: many innings in the game. And that's one that he
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: threw out when they were not signing any starting pictures
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: back in like twenty eighteen, but some of us remember.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a really tough situation.
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: But they got to figure it out because he is
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: one of the tent pole guys that will make or
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: break how far this team goes into the postseason unless they,
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: you know, don't use him and put in Edward Bizarro.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: But they probably won't.
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: Do that twice, so they really need to figure it
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: out with uh with munyas, hey.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Can I jump in really quick?
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't having one less reliever make it easier to get
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Andre's munos in more often? The math would tell you yes,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: So that like I'm actually just curious because like how
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: this all fits out, Like I'm not. It's not just
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you know, the narrative around that being made as an
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: excuse because you have one less reliever. It's the Mariners
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: have said that, well let me, let's just let me
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: just quickly go through.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: So he pitched on the first right, your next game,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the scores of the next game, and it really is
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: irrelevant almost who was wh after since you've last pieced
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: before yesterday eight three, seven to one, seven to three,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: four to nothing. So you had all these games in
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: which you know you could have thrown them in there
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: for mop up duty, what have you whatever, Just get
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: an inning in some work. It feels like again, Chris
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. He's been public right about
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: saying I need work, like I need to stay sharp,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: like they need it. That's part of the job of
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the manager and the staff, right his get him in there,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: and even if it's not one of those high leverage situations.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: But when we come back, I want to throw this
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: at you guys, and Chris will start with you when
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: we come back after a break. I want to because
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: now we're in this mode. Here we go. Well, maybe
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it should be brash, maybe it should be bizarred do
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: maybe it should be fair. Right, all these guys are lefty,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: who should it be who should replace Munyo's Chris. I'll
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: throw that you two guys when we come back, and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: then we'll move on. Ryan Bliss up, JP out, cal
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Rawley playing before a sellout crowd, in Everett and he'll
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: do the same and be in Tacoma as well. Lost
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: of discuss today. Oh, by the way, the rock is back.
• 52:46
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  Speaker 1: for all of your needs. Uh, look, I want them
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff I want to get you in
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: this segment here. So let's just get Chris real quick.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: When people say, well, maybe Muno shouldn't be the closer,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: it should be Gabe Spire, it should be Jose Ferrare,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: it should be Matt Brash, what do we say to that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, you could make that argument based on how
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: they have pitched on a Lossit at the same line
• 53:37
  Speaker 9: that people like Spire and Brash and Farrer are more
• 53:41
  Speaker 9: valuable in the roles that they are pitching than just
• 53:43
  Speaker 9: saving them for the ninth inning, Like you want those
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: guys for those high leverage situations. We, of course, we
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: look at the back of baseball cards and we assume
• 53:51
  Speaker 9: that the save makes the closer the most important believer,
• 53:55
  Speaker 9: not necessarily like you need those guys. You have to
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: be able to get out of the these situations. You want
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: Matt Brash's ability to miss bats to be something you
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: can use in the sixth, seventh, eighth inning. You want
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: Jose Ferrer's ability to get left handers and right handers out,
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: same situation. Same thing for Gabe Spire. So I get
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: it in Bizarto, you know, but his value to you
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: as a guy who can work multiple innings as well,
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: I get it. If I was going to make one
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: of those guys the closer, it would probably be for air.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: But mud up, h look an argument for interest. Let
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: me Nathanly jump in. Brash by the way, oh for
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: two on save opportunities this season, Bizardo, oh for two
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: on save opportunities this season for Air three for four
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: as well, And then you know, Munos is nine to fourteen,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: gave spire is one for one. I don't even know
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: if we need to keep talking about I think Nathan
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: is kind of a moot point. I think it's just
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a matter of, like, get this Christ laid out perfectly.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: You've got a good bullpen, like right, You've got and
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: everyone has Nathan, everyone has a role, like right, everyone
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: has a role. I don't think you need to upset
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the apple cart, Nate.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: No.
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: And I think for people I agree with Chris as
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: far as if there was some one player that I
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: would put in there, it would be Jose Ferrare.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: But that's such a that's such a.
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: Dangerous thing with We've talked about this earlier in the season.
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: He's a ground ball pitcher, and this infield defense is
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: just really not very good. You're asking for batting average
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: and play luck there with that kind of infield defense.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: And then for Matt.
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: Brash, who I love. I love Matt Brash. He's been
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: a great pitcher to watch here for years. Whenever he's healthy.
• 55:32
  Speaker 8: He's kind of doing the opposite thing. We just spent
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: the last segment talking about how unlucky and how do
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: Andris Munoz probably is to go back to being a
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: really great pitcher. Matt Brash isn't striking anybody out. He's
• 55:43
  Speaker 8: striking out batters at like a thirty three percent lower
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: rate than he was last year, and yet he's got
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: these great back of the baseball card numbers as far
• 55:50
  Speaker 8: as era. So the last thing you want to do
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: is take a guy like that, put him into the
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: high leverage spot when he's due for that bad kind
• 55:57
  Speaker 8: of regression, and immediately see yourself still blowing gas and
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: now the apple cart. That's the thing ian if you
• 56:02
  Speaker 8: do it and it doesn't work, well, now you've just
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: taken out the guy that's been the guy for years
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: that everybody knows is the guy. If you're going to
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: do that, you better be pretty sure that the guy
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: that you're putting in there is up to the task,
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: because if it's not and the old guy is still here,
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: you got a real weird thing going on.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, do we are we good? Okay? The piggyback's gone.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Now that we've seen the last two outings of Bryce
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Miller and the rock Is, can we say that, at
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: least in terms of getting them back, at least one
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: of those guys castile back on track. Getting Miller acclimated
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: after being hurt it worked.
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so. And you know, some of it
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: is just, Hey, Luis Castillo's a really good pitcher and
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: was due to pitch better and who knew, Hey, who
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: could have seen that coming based on oh, I don't
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: know the last four seasons, but both those guys just
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: looked phenomenal against Detroit. He left one pitch in the
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: middle of the play to Kevin mcgonaga. Old Castillo, that is,
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: and then Bryce Miller. I mean that's swing and miss stuff,
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: which was just not there at all last year has
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: been there, and then some in this year are to
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: begin this year. The starting rotation just looks fantastic. Even
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: Brian wo who had his one of his worst starts
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: of the year on Friday, there were certainly flashes there
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: that sugges Brian, Who's going to be just fine. This
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: rotation is really good.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: By the way, Kate Anderson five and a third innings
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: of scoreless baseball, nine strikeouts, seventy six to seven strikeout
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: to walk race you go.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I may I'm a table this till next week. We
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: spend some time you and me. Chris and Andrews on
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Friday talking about trading somebody at one of the six
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: starters because of what they've got in the system, and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: can we not and just real fast, Chris, can you
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: make an argument that Kate Anderson he may not even
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: be the best of the two guys down there right
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: in Arkansas?
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: You could, I would fight you and I would probably
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: throw like three punches and throw up, but I would
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: fight you about it. But there are people who say
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: that Ryan Sloan has the higher ceiling, yeah, because of
• 57:57
  Speaker 9: his ability to miss bats. But they're both fantastic. Keith
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: Loss said that they are the best left handed and
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: right handed pitching prospect with me on Friday.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: God, this is crazy. I mean, embarrassment of riches. It's
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: an embarrassment of riches with striking and just every now
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: and then, like we'll be the first group to bash
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Jerry when need be. But between you know, what they've
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: done in a player personnel standpoint scouting with that, and
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: then also the trade for Jose Ferraras turned out pretty
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: damn good, like like really good. I mean that's Nate.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll let you comment on that that's turned out.
• 58:32
  Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I think the thing that I keep thinking
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: about to your point in when we're trying to give
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: authentic praise. This is such a in theory when everyone's
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: healthy and going. If cal Rawley comes back at all
• 58:46
  Speaker 8: close to what he's been, not just last season, but
• 58:48
  Speaker 8: like throw that out of the window the other seasons
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: of his career. He was a really good catcher. This
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: is such a complete roster in a real way. Jerry
• 58:57
  Speaker 8: has said that going into every season since he's been here,
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: because that's just what he likes to do, and it's
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: very fun to make fun of him when he does it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 8: But this year he's kind of right. This is a
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: good team and for them to have all of that
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: talent in the minor leagues like it has taken so
• 59:11
  Speaker 8: long to get to this point. I mean, the Dapota
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: regime has been here forever. I'm obviously on record of
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: not being a huge fan of Jerry and some of
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: the things that he's done and said while he's been here,
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: but man, it is up and humming right now. You've
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: got a starting short starting shortstop, yeah and second baseman
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: who are in their early twenties and flashing really good
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: major league skills. You've got an almost entirely homegrown rotation.
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: You've got Keith Law's best right handed and left handed
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: starting pitching prospect in the minor leagues. Like, this thing
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: is built up to work, which is kind of not
• 59:41
  Speaker 8: to try to circle it back and deflate what you're saying.
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: But when I come back to Earth and I look
• 59:46
  Speaker 8: at the standings and I see thirty four and thirty two,
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: I'm like, hmm, this should probably be a little bit
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: better than that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. It's my a lot money brought
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to my simply said, I'm all a WPT fifteen and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: check out. All right, Chris, just wrap things up. They
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: got Baltimore tonight with Ryan bl snail up. JP Crawford
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: is on the injured list. He'll join Donovan and Cal
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and everybody else, but he's on the interest The lineup today,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: has it? Just referenced it. The shortstop is a guy
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: by the name of Colt Emerson, Patrick Wisdom back at
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: third base Bliss, Sorry, Greg bail much do the Greg
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Bell chagrin, the biggest fan of the Ryan Bliss fan club.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: So what do we do, Chris? What do they do
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: without JP for the next Cup of what ten days
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: Colt Emerson's your shortstop. I mean, just it's flat out simple,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: and honestly, you gotta consider just keeping him the shortstop
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: even when JP's ready to go, and having JP Crawford
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 9: get a couple of starts at shortstop here and there,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 9: some starts a designated hitter, maybe place some third base.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: Maybe you have him work on third base when he
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 9: is approaching a potential rehab assignment there. But I've been
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 9: nothing but impressed with Colt. You know, Emerson's offense, his defense,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: He's going to be a spectacular baseball player. But Colt
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 9: Emerson's shortstop.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Do you keep Wisdom at third then, and just Bliss
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: is your utility? Then? For now?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: For now? Yeah, I mean hope you're.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Not taking Young out right, You're not taking Young.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 9: Yeah. It's not great. It's not a great situation there,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: And you know, I I think at some point that's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: a position that maybe you have to start looking at
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 9: upgrading because maybe maybe we're not going to get Brendan
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: Donovan at third base anytime soon. Maybe that's not going
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: to be a realistic thing. So but yeah, for now,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: I guess you just go with Patrick Wisdom and realize
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: that every team has to deal with a not so
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: great player in their starting lineup right now.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Works all right, Well, they've got an opportunity. So Baltimore
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: for four and then Washington after that. Washington, by the way,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: is a five hundred team. Now, yeah, not awful, right, not?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Not an awful team in Baltimore. Baltimore kind of showing
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: some signs of life a little bit, are they? They
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: kind of hanging around? I mean where are they at there?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, five and you know thirty one and thirty five
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the American League that almost makes you a contender, doesn't.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 9: It's exactly right, such a crap factory right now.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: It's what is it? What is it?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: Ten pounds crap at a five pound.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Back boom Andrews. There you go that make sure day
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: right there? You bet your swipt it by it does,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: all right. So we got a seven game week coming
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: up in addition to maybe, I mean, I think this
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: has got to be It feels like it feels like
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: a four and three week Nathan wouldn't be good enough
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and this needs to be kind of a five and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: two week, doesn't it?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: Like I like I just said, you know, this is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: two more teams that you know they're talent, what they have,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: it's major League Baseball. They're they're talented players up and
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 8: down every rosterm major League Baseball except for the Rockies.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: But that's fine.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: The Marriers are going to be the better team on
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 8: the field all seven games this week. They will have
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: the better players, and they will have more of them.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: They'll have better pitchers. I think they'll have the starting
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: pitching matchup advantage in every single game. They need to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: go five and two. Just cut it out, go go
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: be a good team. Go be a great team. Please,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 8: you can do it.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: And you're old like me. Do you remember the old
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: fight that they had in Camden Yards and I think
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 9: it was started by like Brian Hunter or somebody like that. Yeah, yes,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 9: that was one of the better, better Donny Brooks that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: we've seen.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: The marriage was that was Valley involved? Was that the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: one the Valley was involved with? They slid into Valley.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I think that might have been Boston that because that
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: was ugly. That was that was really ugly.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: That was Bill Hasselman.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Ultimately Bills it was Hasslman it was I think there
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: was also a couple of good ones with Gen Harris
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: over the years too. But yeah, you know what can
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: we get a good fight. Let's just get a good
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: you know, what would happen there though, Like nothing good
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: would happen, Like someone would get hurt that you don't
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: need getting hurt. Is what would happen? That's that's what. Yeah,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: well Chris, my Canadian friend Josh Naylor's at some point
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  Speaker 1: someone's gonna like go after he got right.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Like, I mean, I I admire the heel thing.
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  Speaker 9: I'm not better know enough to appreciate what a heel is,
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  Speaker 9: and he is playing the heel. But I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the the s eating grin that that guy had on
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: his face when they threw up at his face tells
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 9: you that he has no problem with this whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: But I love that.
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  Speaker 9: Please don't get hurt. I just don't get hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Very Canadian of them, I thought. I mean, first of all,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: the accidentally throwing of the of the sliding glove to
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  Speaker 1: distract the catcher was fantastic. That's a new one. I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: love that. That's greasy and I love it. I'm in
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: it all day, bumping the guy at first base in
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: it all day, and then what I loved about it, honestly,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm being dead serious, like you're gonna play on
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the edge like that, you know it's coming and you're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: and you're okay with it, like you're you're okay with that,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Like I I love that about this dude. Man, I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: absolutely love it about this dude. So good for him.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly.
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  Speaker 9: The only thing I don't like, don't throw up people's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: heads like like put one in. Josh Taylor has plenty
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: of and I can say this as someone who has
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: it as well, surface area to go after.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't need to go high. Didn't need to
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: go high. I would agree. All right, Chris, wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: Let's tease what you got going on and what you
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  Speaker 1: want to see this week.
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  Speaker 9: Uh, five and two week? I think this is absolutely
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: a five and two week and uh molly wat mu
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Five, I mean just think about this. Let's let's
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: do some quick math five and two, thirty nine and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: thirty four coming back home. I'll take it. That'd mean
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that better, that'd be that would be a pretty damn
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and you know what you do that you might be
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: catching some teams like our friends of Cleveland guardians along
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the way and things like that. If you're looking at
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: home field. All right, great stuff guys, as always a
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  Speaker 1: great job again last week Chris filling in, Nathan, thank
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He's had all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: There'd have to be an investigation. NHLPA have to sign
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  Speaker 1: off on it. But I don't know, Andrews. I know
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  Speaker 1: how much you hate Edmonton. One of two things could
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  Speaker 1: I think o leon And and Connor have to buy
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• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: have to sign off on it. Yeah, and Bouchard, they'd
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: have to. Their stars don't have to sign off then.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: But he does go there easily the best coach they've
• 1:08:31
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• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: with grumpy Leon and Honor one other local notes. I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: gotta check with Allison on this. I don't get it,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: this whole expansion situation with the p WHL. So the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: torrent had already lost two gold medalists, two of their
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: most recognizable play recognizable players in Hannah Bilka and Caleb Barnes,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: both US Olympians Gold medalists. Now they have lost Hillary Knight,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: five time US Olympian Team USA captain. She was gonna
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: go to Vegas in the expansion draft. She did, but
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: now she's been traded by Vegas to Detroit. But she's gone.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: You can only protect three players. They protected the younger
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: of their two goalies or three, but the younger of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: the two a defender. I don't know, man, I just
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: it's so much momentum here with the Torrent losing again,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: the diehards probably are fine with it. Maybe I don't know,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: maybe not. I just think when you have a sport
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  Speaker 1: that's trying to grow and get a fan base to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: try to buy in, yeah, that's just a that's great,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: you're bringing more expansion teams in, but at the expense
• 1:09:48
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• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: debut ever, right, And now Torrent fans all the Bilka Night,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Barnes jerseys and everything else, like, I'm all for making
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: trades of it make she better. This hasn't made you better,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: but it hasn't been their choice. It's just only three.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: You can only protect the three, and then they deal
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: through the whole pre It's weird just doing it. I
• 1:10:10
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• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: They do some really cool things in terms of rules points,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: how they set up the playoffs. Their expansion situation makes
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: what Vegas did a few years ago look like child's play. Yeah.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I just like Hiller. I think she's just a class act,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: honor or stay but whatever. Okay, we're done, we move on.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sando from The Athletic Weekly guest during football season
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  Speaker 1: He wrote a hell of a story in Russell Wilson
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidacy Andrews. What's our what's our poll? Question? Again?
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  Speaker 2: Are you rooting for Russell Wilson to make the Pro
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 1: Or I don't care. Do you want the update on
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  Speaker 1: the numbers? I would like an update.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, fifty point four percent, not fifty four percent, fifty
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  Speaker 2: point four percent, No, nine point six percent, I don't
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  Speaker 2: care forty percent so mostly yes or I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I say this with all sincerity, and Andrews, you know
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: this is true. I start my day a couple of
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  Speaker 1: cups of coffee and always checking out what's at the Athletic,
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  Speaker 1: little nuggets, topics, conversation pieces for our job in sports radio.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously the Brendan Soaresby thing, athletics all over that with
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  Speaker 1: a great talented college football writers they have. But then
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  Speaker 1: I look over and I see Lo and behold our guy.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sandel wrote a nice starret story today which I said,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I got to get Mike on because this is something
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about last week, and it's kind of
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: a big topic of conversation in Seattle. Before we get
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  Speaker 1: to that, first of all, Michael Sandal, how are you man,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: How are you doing.
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  Speaker 5: It's good to be back.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, great to have you on this. The headline is
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: perfect because it's a word we all used last week.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: It feels like everyone in Seattle is Russell Wilson, a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer quarterback, has a path to Canton. But
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: it's Andrews wait for it, complicated, and boy is it
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: for as soon as we found out Russ is going
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: to go to TV, it's you know, we start looking
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: at legacies and Hall of Fame resumes and things like that,
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  Speaker 1: and boy, Mike, reading through your story here, he is
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  Speaker 1: not just complicated, I think in some ways somewhat unique
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I think it's gotten more complicated for all
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: the guys who aren't slam dunks number one. You know,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: we know that because they've they've made it harder to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 5: get in. The rules just changed in the last couple
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: of years. I thought too many guys are getting in. So,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: you know, he's not in the absolute slam dunk. You know,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: he's not like he's a three time MVP or something
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: like that. But he has a case, and you know,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: there's a five year waiting period that think's going to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: really help him because it's been you know, the last
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: three or four years have been so disappointing for him
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: and kind of he's been exposed probably at worst. But
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: I think with time and we'll see how he handles things.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: I think that's part of this too. Probably, you know,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: you could feel better about the running head in Seattle.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: You mentioned let's just kind of break this down by
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: some of the segments that you wrote about. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that this is the one that gets brought up a
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: lot because it's very easy. It's the he's a ten
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl selection. We've mentioned this many times. Our
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: friend Hugh Millan brings us up often as well, and Michael,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: let you expand on that not all Pro Bowl selections
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: are created equal, right.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So you know Aaron Rodgers has ten, but he
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: was named to the team the first time every time,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: and Wilson has ten and five of them were replacing
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: someone else, including two years ago with Pittsburgh, which you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: know wasn't at all a Pro Bowl season. So I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: think you do have to discount some of those. It's
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  Speaker 5: not the same. I think when you hear ten times
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  Speaker 5: pro bowler, you think, well, yeah, you got to put
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: you put him in. He's up there with everybody else.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: But you would never normally see I don't think and
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, if he doesn't make the game, he's not
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: like accepting an invite to go right right right. But
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: Russell Wilson I could probably accepted everyone he could get.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 5: I think he's been legacy conscious. I think he's those
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: things have mattered to him. Those murkers along the way
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: have mattered to him. He's wanted to be the you know,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: the NFL Man of the Year, Pro Bowl, Super Bowl,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: all these different things feel like they're boxes for him
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: to check on his road to immortality. Right, So we
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: have to be fair with the Pro Bowls when they're
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: that inflated, because we know when the guys go as
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: replacement that oftentimes they didn't have a great year.
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  Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Mike's on the committee, he's
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: got a vote. He sits in the committee room and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: goes through this. I want to go back to what
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  Speaker 1: you said earlier because I think it is important because
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: every hall of Fame Baseball, football, basketball, and Asmith Hall
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: of Fame, the Hockey Hall of Fame, they all have
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: different criteria. And then along the way, how many guys
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: can go in per year? What is the new criteria
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: for modern day candidates for the Hall of Fame.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: So basically, for seventeen straight years there were five slots
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: for modern era and five made it the maximum made
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: it every time. It was just like, hey, once you
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: get to that final hurdle, there was just a yes
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: or no vote, and everybody you needed eighty percent yeah,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: and people weren't going to stand in the way for
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: the most part. Now they went they did away with
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: that now to where you have to pick a smaller
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: number at the end, and so it's they end up
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: splitting votes. So it becomes very difficult even for some
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: guys who were to me no doubters. Even Antonio Gates,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: you know, needed an extra year to get in, Luke
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: needed an extra year. Those are pretty much flawless guys.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: And so somebody like Eli Manning, you know, he's been
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: a finalist a couple of times, but within the lanes
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: of being a finalist, didn't get that close. Was kind
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: of knocked out and so that I could see I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 5: could see Russell Wilson making as a finalist, but that
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: the harder battle could be getting in now, whereas before
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: you make it as a finalist, you pretty much are
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: getting in at some point.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: What does Mike Sandal look for? And let's just use
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the quarterback for example, because I think every position is
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: probably different, right, Like I mean it's it's every position
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: has probably looked at and graded and evaluated in a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: different way. What do you look at cause you mention
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: Eli Manning, multiple Super Bowl champion and time Super Bowl champion,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: what do you look for when when you're sitting down
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: Mike, I think a non negotiable for me is at
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: some point in your career you were considered kind of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: in the Tier one quarterbacks. I think you just have
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: to have had a real run of excellence where you
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: you know, you were the game plan consideration and you
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: were difficult to stop and teams were wary of playing you,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: and so I think there's I think it's debatable whether
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: Eli Manning was that. It doesn't mean he can't be
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame because he's got two Super
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: Bowl MVPs that counts. But for me, if you don't
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: have that, just you were a real guy and one
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: of the two or three four best quarterbacks in the league,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: you know, for multiple seasons, hopefully five or more, would
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: really make it easy. Then I think there's others, but
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: it gets camped. That's where it gets complicated. And so
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: some of those guys like Kurt Warner. You know, the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: second thing I would look for which works against Russell
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 5: Wilson is you know, if you change teams and went
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: somewhere else. This was the same thing for coach as
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: we talked about this with Mike Hongrin, like does it
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: transfer when you go somewhere else? Right he As a coach,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: you can come in and turn around one team, but
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: if you go somewhere else and fell fat in your face,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: maybe it was better things. I think with a quarterback
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: we can evaluate their contributions more easily than we can
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: for a coach. But when Kurt Warner went to after
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: winning with the Rams, who were you know, losers before
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: he started, he went to the Cardinals and got them
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: to the super Bowl, which looks really impressive right now,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: doesn't it. I'm beyond pro that would be his way
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: in right. And so for Russell Wilson, I think his
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: way in is somewhat that for a couple of years
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: he was one of the best. He was Tier one
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: quarterback a couple of years. I think that helps him,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: gives them a little bit of an edge over man.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: I think he went a Super Bowl. I think that's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: a big deal. And then you know the fact that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 5: he fell off in the end causes you to revisit
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: the Okay, what were the factors again that made him
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: great in Seattle? Was it, you know, benefiting from defense
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: and good teammates. I would say early in his career, yes,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: but later in a Seattle career no. I think he
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: did carry it to a different degree. And I think
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: we can will agree in the end, probably that he
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: lost his legs and got a little out in front
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: of his skis right. Thinking he was the guy, thinking
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: he was something, thinking he was a slam dunk Hall
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: of Famer, thinking he was bradi Er, Peyton, Manninger, Rogers.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: He's not that, But there's guys in the Hall of
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: Fame who are not that. It's just complicated the legion.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Of Boom and being associated with them and that championship
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: team and really a team that went to back to
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: back Super Bowls that kind of like last year's Super
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Bowl championship team here, you know, I mean Sam Darnel
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: was the quarterback, but everyone kind of looked to the defense, right,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: That's it was a defense first team. Does the lob
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: work against him in a sense because it was such
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: a great defense in Seattle and twenty thirteen specifically when
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: they wanted even twenty fourteen when they went back, does
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom work against him a little bit?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: I think it does. Yeah, I mean it certainly helped
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: him get to a Super Bowl in the first place,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: and he helped that team. I mean they were you know,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: they needed a good quarterback to get there. But yes,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: it was very defensive driven early on and run game driven.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 5: And Russell Wilson did his part and was really made
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: explosive plays and made you know, made big plays in
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: to win some games too. I mean, I think he
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: was an important part of it. But what's going to
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: happen over the next several years. What could happen is
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: Richard Sherman goes in the Hall of Fame, Bobby Wagner
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: goes in the Hall of Fame. You know, we'll see
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: what happens with anyone else on that defense. But you
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: start getting a bunch of better guys in the Hall
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: of Fame, and those guys, you know, get their due
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: and credit for why the team won.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Mike Sander jonais from the Athletic I had somebody at
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: we brought because we brought it up last week, and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: we're kind of going through some of the guys that
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: are in and that if you just look at some
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: of the numbers, just raw numbers, that Russell was better than. Like,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: but is there something about modern day versus the the
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: you know, the the previous era, maybe even like the sixties, seventies, eighties,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: even before free agency. And I'll just bring up the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: names ken Stable or Sonny Jurgensen, you know, Joe Namath,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: guys like that. You know, you can look at some
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: of their numbers and russ has better numbers, right, Like,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: but in some ways they all won one Super Bowl.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: But it was a different game, right It was a
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: little bit of a totally different game. Yeah, it was
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: a totally different game. It was way harder to pass
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: the ball. That's one of the reasons they didn't pass
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: the ball as much. And one of the reasons why
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the league used to be you know, old school run
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: the ball was because it wasn't until nineteen seventy eight
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: that they allowed pass blockers on the offensive line to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: use their hands in pass protection. Think of that couldn't
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: use your hands, So it was very so now your
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: quarterback has whatever a half tick or tick less time
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball, and then, by the way, your
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: your your cornerbacks and your defensive backs could also before
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight put their hands on and disrupt receivers
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: all the way down the field. So it was very
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: much harder to put up the types of numbers that
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: they have now. That's why you get irritated when at
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: least I do, when they look at Joe Namas numbers. Well,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: you try throwing the ball back then you know, it
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: was a totally different deal.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: On top of the fact that the quarterbacks got hit
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: a lot harder and dirtier things that would be dirty
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: plays now we're just built in as part of the game.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: So they weren't going to pass as much because there
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: was not as much upside to passing and there was
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: more downside, and so those guys aren't going to have
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: the same numbers.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: I know you look at things like EPA and other
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: things like that, some deeper numbers. I'll wrap it up
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: with this, how much do you and even guys the
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: rest of the committee look at a couple of things?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: One first team All Pro not Pro Bowl, we got
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: through that already, but first team All Pro and also
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: even MVP or offense Defensive Player of the Year awards.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: I think the the All Pro one is kind of
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: interesting because there's a lot of guys who didn't make
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: a ton of All pros, you know, wide receivers or quarterbacks.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, the number is not going to be super high.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: So I think if you have a high number of
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: All pros, that hugely works in your favor because they're
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: hard to get. I don't think it's completely disqualifying to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: have fewer of them, depending on the position, depending on
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: your contemporaries at that time when you were playing. The
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: MVP thing I do think will be you know, not
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: having gotten an MVP vote is a conspicuous thing for
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: some of these quarterbacks that are coming up, because, let's
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: face it, you know it's unmight be you know, Wilson's
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: going to make it in on his First Tree eligibilities.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: So Rogers will make it in, right, and that'll kind
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: of be some of those guys getting in will become
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: you know, it re establishes what the standard is to
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: get in. Yeah, and so people saying, hey, wait a minute,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Rogers won this many MVPs. Wait, Wilson didn't get a vote,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: so that could be something he has to overcome.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just look and I bring up
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: the MVPs. I mean, Bobby Wagner six time first team
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: All Pro, only Jack Lambert, Mike Singletary and Ray Lewis.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Actually Jack Lambert also have six. Only Singletary and Lewis
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: had had more AP All Pro first teams, and you
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: know obviously, and then you look at guy like Luke Keigley,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: he had five, took him the second time to get in, right.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Patrick willis five a Hall of Famer as well. Fred
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Warner is at four. He's probably going to get in.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: And Bobby feels like a no brainer Hall of Famer
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: for the Seahawks. You mentioned Sherman as well. I think it,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: and I hate to be that guy sitting here in Seattle, Mike.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: It just feels like outside of those two Marshawn and
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Russ the only two probably other viable candidates, and then.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: Lul Thomas ERLD Thomas should really get recognition good. I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: think that he's a good candidate.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Okay, Well, see Mike, I think he.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: Was really great. You know, now his career is a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 5: little bit shorter, but man, I think that there was
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: a one thing it's hurting him is he's just disappeared.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: You know, he's sort of the way he went away
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: and no one's really talking about him. I would sure
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: like to see him considered.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Three time first team All pros.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: Earl, by the way, he was a huge component of
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: that defense. I mean, I think if Cam Chancer played longer,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: he'd be in that too. You know, it could be
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: harder with the career length, but they were some great players.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Think about this, Sherman and Earl had the same number
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: of First Team All Pros, like I and and yeah,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I love hearing that about Earl because I
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: think you're right. Ear Earl kind of like you and
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: I would urge people read Mike story. The way Russ
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: kind of dropped off was part of the things that
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Mike is Mike mentioned hurt the way Earl, like you said,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: just disappeared like it's like I'm gone, yeah, and just uh,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: you know, he had his own things. He was obviously battling.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: So uh did by the way, did the did the
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Rams get a first ballot Hall of Famer? And Miles
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Garrett recently.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, no doubt he's gonna make it.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: No problem.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: He's got no, he's got no problem.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: You go right in.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: What what was your reaction when you saw that trade?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: You know, I think they wouldn't have done it if
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: they had hadn't lost to Seattle. I think they're chasing
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: the frustration of last season. You know, they really obviously
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: by some of the things they've said and you know,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: dwelling on certain things and in their losses to Seattle.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: I think they feel like they had the best team
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: and knew that once they knew that whoever got from
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: the to the super Bowl from the NFC was going
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: to win it. And they are just man, they're gonna
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: They're just doing everything they can. It's it's it feels
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: like a reactive off season to me for them, which
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, I give them credit for trying,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: you know, I think I think that's better than than not,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: although it's a lot to give up, and you know,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: there's definitely risk involved here. Matthew Stafford's age. He could
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: fall off or get injured. That's sort of a thing.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: And I think Jared Versus is a really good player,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: so they gave up a ton. I think it probably
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: cheers them up a little bit, you know, after a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: really tough year watching your division rival win it, this
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: sort of gives them something to I think it gives
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: them some juice.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I would agree. Checking the calendar June eighth, are you
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: knee deep in quarterback tier rankings right now?
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're doing quarterback tiers. I'll be out of Seahawks tomorrow.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Oh good, I'll see out there. Okay, good.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to make a visit to the Packers
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: and then yeah, then we'll be in the home stretch
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: on the quarterback stuff.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: I love it, great stuff. That's always one of my
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: favorite things read every summer as well. Mike Sandal the
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Athletic go read his story right now. In the meantime,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you for popping on with us today, and my friend,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it great.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I that is that is Mike Sandal from the athletic
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I go to the quarterback tier rankings, I you know,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: like you eat that up. Yeah. I used to like
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: really get jacked for the preseason top twenty five in
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: college football. I don't know why that's lost a little luster.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because he expanded playoff or I think you
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: know what it is. I'll be honest with you. It's
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: just the way that the world is now in college football.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: It's there's two conferences they matter, and everyone else is
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: kind of an afterthought. The tier rankings I'm in too,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: I'm really I'm where does Darnold rank? Yeah? See it two?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: He's out one?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Is he a Tier two guys?
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Just here three?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Teture three? My guess, great year, lash, she did a
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: lot of interceptions.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, that's true, that's true. I don't know that's interesting.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: But he like it was as good as anyone when
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: it absolutely mattered that they don't win the NFC champions And.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: That's the thing when Mike he pulls like it's like
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: a hundred guys around the league are like scouts, coaches, GMS,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: executive personnel guys. Guys would be like that guy's good,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: but grudgingly John Lynch. What do you think. I don't know. Good,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: pretty good. We had him in our building and we
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: let him go. Yeah, exactly. No, Mike puts so much
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: time and effort into that. It's really good as well.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll tell you break come back four nine
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: four to five one. That is a Tacoma Dodge text
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  Speaker 1: line four nine four to five one. We'll get your thoughts, comments, questions,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: concerns we asked earlier today. Talkbacks too, Yeah, talkbacks as well.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: We got a whole question up there. How hard are
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: you rooting for Russ to be in the Hall of Fame?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: For me, I'm kind of like whatever. After thought, I
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: love what he said about Earl. Yeah, I thought it,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: sur I thought Earl's candidacy was really a long shot.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Now here's that Mike is the guy it's gonna probably
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: put he It's kind of regionalized how you pushed for right,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: and it's it's odd to remember that Earl had the
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: same number of first team All pros that Richard Sherman does.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: And Sharam's kind of thought to be a no brainer,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: like the guy, right, I mean, Bobby is the no brainer. Yes,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: surem too. But sounds like Earl's going to get a push,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: which I love.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think Earl is the best player on that defense,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: but I do think he was the most important player.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: On that He certainly was impactful. Yes, there's no doubt
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: about that. All right, let's take a break, come back,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts next.
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  Speaker 10: I do not care into the Hall of Fame.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think he deserves it. I think he needs
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: to re ingratiate himself with the city before anything, and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: he needs to figure out.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: How to be a good TV analyst.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: But I don't think he deserves to be.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 7: In the Hall of Fame.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: The Hall of very good, but not the Hall of Fame. Yeah,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: that's uh. There's a couple of texts here talking about it.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: If he gets in, how watered down it becomes. I'm
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: wondering how different people would feel here if if it
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: didn't end how it ended, Like he can finished his
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: career here instead of forcing his way to Denver.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Was He's just put the same player that he was
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: the end of his career, but on the Seahawks.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: So he's playing poorly. Yeah, here's a I don't think
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: he would have played this poorly. Yeah, I agree, I
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: totally agree. Actually, I mean that's that's the thing that's
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: hard to kind of fathom. That's why it's tough. It's like, dude,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: if you had what could have been right? Yeah, damn.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 7: Next, I tried to watch the Stanley Cup. I'm a
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 7: person of color, and I know Ian Frenez really enjoys
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 7: his NHL hockey and that's pretty cool. I just don't
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: get into it because seeing a bunch of white guys
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 7: on ice doesn't.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 9: It thrill me.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 7: Sorry, there's no diversity in hockey like there is in soccer,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: in football in the NBA. Not interested in it.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I listen. I can't relate to that. I understand
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. I do say, if you watch these
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: two teams, there's a little bit more diversity. You can
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: call us our KeAndre Miller, Gosta Spare. I mean, there's
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: right like and and hockey has become a little better, yes,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: in regards to not everyone looking like Andrews or me. Right,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: there's a huge European influence that is largely from countries
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: that are predominantly, for lack of a better term, Caucasian.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just think about the places that have ice cold places.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Therefore you're gonna have I think you're seeing like if
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: you're not. This is probably a horrible comparison. But am
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I saying I'm not watching the NBA because they don't
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: look like me? They don't. But I understand. I understand
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: how you fan, right, I understand what that gentleman said.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: I understand it's you're trying to it's not relatable. I
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: guess in a sense, I do. But hockey's got a
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: long way to go, but it's done. It's doing better
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: than it did of diversity, and that is a knock
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, but part of it is is where
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: the game is played north of the border in Canada,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: in you know, cold weather states in our area. Yeah, Russia, Russia, Sweden, Sweden, well,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I mean seriously, Sweden, Uh, Czech and Slovakia.
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  Speaker 2: It's also Finland. It's diverse in a different way besides
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: skin color. It's language you're speaking, it's the cultural difference.
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  Speaker 1: It's probably a lot more of a diverse sport in
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: terms of what you just said than anything anything. Yeah,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: baseball maybe gets into into that conversation. Soccer obviously in soccer,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just talking like in our country. Yeah right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but I get I get you, I get
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah. I work with a guy that
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: played in the NHL that is JT. Brown Brown, Right,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: he doesn't look like me, but I get what you're saying.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: And I think hockey needs to do a better job
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: with that. But I would give the give the give
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: game for a shot tomorrow. Just give it a shot
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: and root for Miller nineteen for Carolina, for Keegan Kohlosar,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: fifty five who played junior here. Okay five for Vegas.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: He played his junior hockey here, and see Vegas likes
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: some Thunderbirds, don't they. Yeah, well him and Shae Theodore,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they've worked out all. I'll tell you what
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I take. Keegan Kolesar, Oh, Keegan cole Sar on the
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: craft is is he's not going to score thirty goals? God?
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Is he what this team needs? It's a perfect like
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: third or fourth liner. That's what they do. Yes, hit
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: net front presence, presidence Johnny, if you got to drop him,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: he does that. Yeah, plays with stones. Yeah, I love
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Keatan all right, next, put your plumbs on the table mentality.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Thanks Ezel.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: Sam. Sam's interception rate or total is I don't know.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: It's kind of bs to me. He had multiple bunches
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: and interceptions in a couple of games, like half his
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: picker in like three games. If you look at garrett
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: sat total, half his se come from the weakest teams.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: He had like eleven sacks in three games against horrible,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: horrible teams. I don't know versus beat.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, well let's think. I think I think out
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: of the seven I think there were five out of
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: seventeen games that Garrett didn't have a sack. Right, we
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: went through his numbers last week. He did rack up
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: some sacks against some really bad teams. Two of the
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: games he didn't get a sack against were against Pittsburgh Steelers. Right,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: So what we can. But then if you listened at
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: all to our friend Hugh Millen last week on our
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: show or with Softy, as our friend Greg Cosell would
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: say this, the tape tells you this guy is elite.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Just put on the tape. The tape's talking to me,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: and when it talked to him about Miles Garrett, it's saying, well,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: if you're a Rams fan, good things. If you're a
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: fan of anybody else, bad things.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, And I'll kind of counter that with he plays
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: on a bad team. Now they're playing from behind most
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: of the times, so there's less passing situations for the
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: ones that they're playing against. Now he's gonna be playing
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: on the Rams, They're gonna be ahead a lot of
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: the time. Kind of the opposite for Darnold. They're ahead
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of the times. And I still had those
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: high interceptions, right, So it's a kind of different situation.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Last last one, Okay, and Ian and Anders Chris E.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Beard Chris Brien, My god, does Patrick Wisdom suck?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 9: And he was batting load off?
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? Oh my god? And he sucks
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: at fielding? Like, could we be doing worse? Patrick Wisdom
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: at third and leading off? What are you doing? Dan
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: Wilson drunk?
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 9: You're drinking on the job, My goodness, huh, what are
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 9: we doing?
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: A slightly different view on Patrick Wisdom Chris Berrien, There No,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I just mean like myself. I just I think it's
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: interesting watching a third baseman that knows how to play
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: third base, even though he's not a leite at it,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, and he's hit the ball hard
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: a couple of times. He's not a starter, he's not
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: an everyday player, but I'm fine with him filling in
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: for a few days while JP's out.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the text four nine four or five
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: to one two o six talk about Russell Wilson. I'm
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: impartial to him being in the Hall of Fame, but honestly,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: I'd probably be happier if he didn't get in, just
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: because of the bs that happened to get himself out
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: of here. Propaganda comes to mind. Interesting, Dale Irwin got
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: a name attached to it. I like that, Dale Irwin
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: not rooting at all for Wilson to get in the
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame two five to three. Don't care if
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: Russ gets in. Two o six, don't care even a
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: little bit if he gets in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: I appreciate what he accomplished here, but we won the
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl most because of the strength of defense, tainted his reputation.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: We left chasing money in championships, major failure, whatever, dude.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Four two five, I could care less if Russ gets in.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Holmgren has been robbed. Wags schirm Earl. Yes, if you
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: listen to Santo a minute ago. I mean Wags is
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: in sureman. He thinks Earl's got a really good chance
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: down the road. Four two five says Russ has no
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: business in the Hall of Fame. I believe sixty percent
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: of the player's time playing should be in the top
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: of his position. That's his problem. He's quarterbacks hard though,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: because he won. There's one guy, so was he. I
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: think you have almost say, honest, Mike tomorrow because he's
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: out of Seahawks. We're out there tomorrow too. What top
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: three at one point in your career? And he probably
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: he was borderline top three or four most of the time,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: but he was never He's a second team All Pro. Yeah,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls mean zero zilch in nothing three six.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: So I want Seattle sports to be well represented. Mike
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: and Marshawn both absolutely deserve it. That being said, both
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: have been loyal to Seattle and have made this a home.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Russ turned to danger Russ as EGO took over and
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: he's never the same because of that, I just couldn't
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: care less. I don't hate him, but just eh. Marshawn's
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: got an interesting way of revising history a little bit somewhat.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Retires during a Super Bowl with the shoes on the
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: on the power line, then ends up finishing up in
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: sort of in Oakland, his hometown, so kind of forced
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: his way out, but then came in as a savior
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: in twenty I guess with the twenty nineteen season, the
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: playoff game in Green Bay, Marshawn's tenure here, guys, was
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: not all peaches and cream.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: Like you don't want to say that for any of
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: those guys that they didn't know. I don't think anyone
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: really left on good terms.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: But they've all been welcomed back. Yes, And that's the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: beauty and the strength of that organization. And it starts
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: with Schneider. I'd probably give Jody some credit to.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: Michael Bennett's a big part of the preseason broadcast on TV.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, I'm reading a book. I'm ignoring Pete. I've
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: heard all this stuff before that. Michael Bennett and I
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: love Mike, Yeah, you guys, no Mike, but Mike. Mike
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: wasn't great at the end. You know, Shuram, that goes
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: without saying, and earl whatever. But yeah, those guys are
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: all welcome back. Yes, there, and Russ will be at
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: some point as well.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: Question for you, all things equal, all things the same
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: as they are now. If one play and you know
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: what play I'm talking about, is different.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: It makes this It makes the strength well, first of all,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: it makes his argument better and easier because we just
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: went through with Mike, all the guys that have won
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The problem.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: The Mariners have put out an updated lineup.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Hang on, let me look at this. Don't tell me yeah,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: let me let me be, let me be.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: In position he's playing, I hope. So anyway, yikes, Andrey
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: bug bit.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Let me read this lineup to you the five and
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: two demand that we had a moment ago with with
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Nathan and Chris for the week. Uh Young leads off
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: and is now your shortstop? Has he played one inning?
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: Is short stop this year? Not this year? But he
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: obviously came up to the minors. Patrick Wisdom is your
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: third baseman, Johnny Parreda is your catcher, and Ryan Bliss
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: is your is your second basement so.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: I guess you're not just the pinch fronner defensive replacement.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: Your bottom thirty. Your orders are the Tacoma Rainiers, which
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: is fine. They're gonna be rained out tonight anything. All
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: these Moneys are off Mondays are off days for triple A,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: so they're not even playing. But yeah wow, so yeah,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: Emerson is scratch. We'll see if we catch anything on that.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, comeback. Softie should be in
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: here in a minute. Next thought, the moller has made
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: his way in here is uh. He's excited about the
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: bottom read the bottom third of that lineup again to Softy,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: will you for the Mariners today and to give him
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: the bottom third? Right, give it to me, give it
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Patch for your Seattle marin or sorry, third basement for
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: your Seattle Mariners. Batting seventh is Patrick Wisdom, catching for
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: your Seattle Mariners. Batting eighth is Johnny Parade. Would be
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: the best of the three. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: He is, uh.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: And then playing second base and batting ninth for your
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners. Recently called up Ryan Bliss, mister two oh
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: five batting average, triple a.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 10: A striking out twix the time in triple A and
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 10: walking five. It seems like a good knife for Josh
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 10: Naylor to go kick somebody's ass again. He didn't Detroit
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 10: over the way, throw an oven minutes somebody the freaking
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 10: Tigers and how soft they are. It's so throw admit
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 10: at me, not even a real mix.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: What's the number on Valdez?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as the second most hit batsman of any picture
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: versus the Seattle this is this? He has eleven and
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: eighteen appearances.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: And who's number one?
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: Roger Clemens, who has I think sixteen or seventeen in
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: the forty four appearances.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: Who was the.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Guy that was kick his ass?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 10: Who was the guy that we had last year, two
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 10: years ago, whatever that just could not Was it Handiger
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 10: that just could not stop getting bean by everybody?
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: France by France? Yes, got hit in other places, he did,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 10: That was one place, by the way, him and Jose Pontiagua,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 10: remember Jose Pontiagua.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: I do. I also remember when Mike Perrott got hit
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: in the Kingdome and I was like, going to make
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: you prepared for work. This is a physical environment here.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Check it's a violent atmosphere in the studios.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 10: Well, look, I mean as far the os, what's what's
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 10: wrong with Emerson?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: I was I was taking anything. He did get hit yesterday,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: but I was like right on his path on the
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: pad and everyone was saying, that's back. I don't know.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't know, and just fact checking.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 10: Are they are they coming back? Because I hope they are,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 10: and hope August four, let's know, framber Valdis.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Is on the mound. Let's go get them right. I
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 10: I mean we're starting to develop a little bit of
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 10: a nasty rivalry with a few teams out there, the
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 10: Astros among them, your friends Tigers. I mean, you guys
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 10: know when the Blue Jay Series is this year, right
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 10: north of July weekend, America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Is there a soccer? Is there a World Cup match
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: that same weekend? Oh yeah, I think there is. I
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: think it's like one of those gone here.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 10: But my ninth is the USA Australia game with the
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 10: June nineteenth. June nineteenth, sorry, USA Australia and the Mariners
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 10: Red Sox.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: I believe that night to both.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 10: No, No, I'm actually I'm actually taking that day off.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: I got something planned for that.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 10: I'm gonna go bet on college football and see if
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 10: I can get reinstated. Can you check with sort of
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 10: have any eligibility? But if I bet on the game,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 10: can you bring me back? Can you check with Swordsby
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 10: and see who he likes? That with this Marin Bulim
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 10: if his NFL career doesn't pan out, he should be
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 10: what you know, Tim Donnie, he has become and in
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 10: some ways what Rick new Heisl has become. I mean
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 10: just laughs now, I mean you think about the mundane
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 10: stuff that some of these guys did that got busted
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 10: for life by college athletics, some of the crap, and
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 10: now this guy this is the cardinal sin.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: So apparently there's nothing you can't do.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 10: Literally, well, nothing you can do as long as you're
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 10: not in prison, as long as you're free and clear
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 10: to be eligible for class and to show up on
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 10: a Saturday afternoon.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: There's nothing you cannot do, or as long as you're
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: not playing with one of the four major pro sports,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: right because they frown upon that. Yes, well for John
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Tey Porter, yeah, how he feels about you can ask, right,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many NFL guys have been busted the
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: last couple of years. Bullets, right, right, yes, right, Well,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Chauncey and Johncey had something with the mafia that was
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: a little Johncey Phillips had a mental illness. Oh that's right. Sorry.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: He should be able to get away with this text statement.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 10: And you know what, the guy that should be the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 10: most embarrassing this whole thing is the president of Texas
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 10: Tech University.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: How is that guy allowing this dude to play?
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 10: Well, they had one of the kid. Yeah, I'm betting
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 10: the Spurs big time in Game three?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Really no, not really? Okay.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 10: Today, Rick new heisl will join us to talk about
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 10: this very story.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Checking notes on winn You's got to let go and
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: watch twenty tonight.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 10: If there's anybody who knows about this, it's Rick new Heiseel.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 10: Chris Vannini from the Athletic will also join us and
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 10: give a national respective. I don't know if he did
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 10: not Minaco, Sir Dellinger may have had it, but Vannini's
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 10: all over it too, So he'll join us at five
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 10: twenty I believe tonight. Humilling on Bill Kruger on We'll
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 10: talk a little baseball before a game one of four
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 10: against the Oriols.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 5: this is paddle day, saying so long everyone,