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F1 2025 Belgian GP Recap & Hungarian GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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  Yeah. Oh. hi welcome to ben with the boys fast
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  slaps i was flying joe we are back after the
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  belgian grand prix spa francorchamps uh i'm here
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  hosting this week i guess yep uh with the one
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  the only infamous the infamous how are you doing
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  schmelze uh good you're this is weird being on
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  this side i was gonna say you're in you're in
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  someone else's seat today i'm in someone else's
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  seat uh You just opened the show because I was
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  busy flying. I feel weird right now. This is
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  weird. I don't know what's going on. If you think
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  about it, this is kind of what we were doing
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  for a while. Just you and me, especially at the
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  end of last season. It was just you and me for
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  a good while. Almost half of the season, I would
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  say. But we were blessed to get Mike as an addition.
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  We were blessed to get Mike, yeah. And we love
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  all of our past guests as well. Past co -hosts
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  and such. Mike did, unfortunately, perish due
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  to work this week. No, no, no. Mike did not perish.
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  He's well alive. He's doing his best Carlos Sainz
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  impression. He is, he is. Mike will be back,
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  though. Work just got the better of him this
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  week. Got the better of him. Unbelievable. Mike
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  is coming back to attack you, I hope. I hope
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  so. Yeah. I hope so. But no. Yeah. Work has sucked
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  this week. That's all right. Kev's here. Kev.
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  What's up, Kev? What's up, dude? He says, what's
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  up, dude? What's up? Anyway, let's move on. Holy
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  crap. Belgian GP recap. Let's get into it. Oh,
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  my God. Did you guys see that? If you're on YouTube,
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  you would have seen Joe just flying. Yeah. Let's
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  kick it off. I guess I am hosting this. It was
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  a joke, but I think I'm going to just host this
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  week. Let's go for it. No, Mike. It's all weird.
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  We've, of course, forgot to mention it last week.
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  It was a sprint weekend, so we got one practice,
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  and then we got sprint, crawly, sprint, and then
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  race, crawly, and then race. Should we predict
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  sprints from now on? Nah, it's doing too much.
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  No, no, no, no, no. Maybe we'll look at something
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  next year. I think it's too much, though. We
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  should predict pole next year. yeah it's not
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  a bad day we could do that we could do that um
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  so i didn't have anything on the practice session
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  that happened i think i did watch a quick recap
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  but i don't think anything crazy happened i was
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  watching alpine so i quit watching uh we i do
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  have one they were 19 and 20 i'm pretty sure
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  they do have one funny note to make about alpine
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  yeah i do have one funny note to make about alpine
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  during the race um but sprint quali um a couple
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  of A couple of things happened. We saw Hamilton
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  go off at the new bus stop chicane at the end
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  of his sprint quality one lap. There wasn't a
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  crash, but that did knock him out of sprint quality
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  one. He did. He was a very interesting weekend.
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  Very bad qualifying weekend. Antonelli also out
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  in SQ1 in 20th. I got a lot to say. Bad, bad
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  weekend for him as well. Start of qualifying
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  two was delayed due to gravel from Kimmy's first
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  run. there was actually a very big sweat in sprint
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  quality too both mclarens were almost knocked
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  out um i believe it was norris that was like
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  two positions away from elimination uh it was
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  it was just really really really high uh evolution
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  on the track and neither of them got good laps
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  in so that was a bit of a sweat while i was watching
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  um and then to finish it off russell out in sq2
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  along with sonota which is you know kind of par
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  for the course at this point um but not a bad
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  quality yeah sorry sorry no i was just gonna
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  say not a bad regular quality for yuki oh yeah
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  no no no yeah definitely not yeah it wouldn't
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  be a bad regular quality and he actually did
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  end up doing better in the actual quality itself
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  um we did see him get into the top 10 along with
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  hajar and lawson right behind him lawson yeah
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  bortoletto too also getting into the top 10 had
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  a good weekend uh race quality so during the
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  sprint race itself verstappen did get ahead very
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  early, took the lead, and then kept the lead.
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  And so it was Verstappen, Piastri, De Norris.
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  And then inside the points, we actually got Behrman
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  and Hadjar. And Ocon! Ocon was fifth in the sprint.
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  That was a big mention. Unfortunately, just the
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  sprint, so didn't get the crazy amount of points,
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  but crazy good showing, I would say. The one
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  thing I wanted to note about Alpine is that Gasly,
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  I think, was starting ninth. uh he did his formation
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  lap he went into the pits the race started and
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  he came out two laps later two laps behind and
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  finished the race that like that so something
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  happened to him i just thought it was crazy that
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  i thought he was retiring but he came back out
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  on track and finished the race and the commentators
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  were calling it just like extra practice for
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  him which which i mean hey with quality the next
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  day yep for the gp same day or same day i'm sorry
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  yeah correct why not yep You're totally right.
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  It is weird, though. It is a little different.
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  Yeah. And then the only note I have for the race
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  quality. Exactly. Exactly. The only note I have
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  for race quality is Hamilton out in Q1 again.
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  So, I mean, do we want to start there? Just talk
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  about Hamilton and Red Bull. Do we want to start
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  somewhere else? Maybe a little higher? Maybe
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  the dominant team? What do you mean, talk about
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  Hamilton and Red Bull? I'm sorry, Hamilton. Did
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  I say Red Bull? I meant Ferrari. Oh, yeah. I
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  was like, was there some dramatic news that I
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  don't know about? Hamilton to Red Bull. Where's
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  the tinfoil hat? It's right behind you. Nah,
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  not worth it. It was a joke. Nah, let's just
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  start at the McLarens. Start at the McLarens.
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  Give them their flowers. Yeah. Nothing else to
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  say, really, at least for me as a non -McLaren
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  fan, other than what a performance. Yeah. It
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  sucks for Lando, though, actually. There was
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  multiple miscues for Lando as a driver, and then
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  the mechanics let him down, too. That mid -race
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  box at lap 22 -ish or whatever, that front -left
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  tire -putter -honor guy. man big mess up dog
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  he messed up once tried to reset messed up again
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  and then finally got it on but by that i mean
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  that's we're talking a good pit is what two seconds
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  two point i mean that's a really good pit like
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  2 .2 .0 is crazy right but like you'd be happy
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  with 2 .2 2 .3 yeah i mean you're costing crazy
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  time and then lando locking up a couple times
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  locking up a couple times the biggest moment
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  um he had a really weird restart because we did
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  a, instead of doing a standing start first, first
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  of all, we had a huge. delay yeah an hour and
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  a half i think just about um maybe a little less
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  uh and instead of starting a standing start we
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  decided to do a rolling start it's funny you
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  say you disliked it yeah it's funny yeah on roll
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  f4 it's funny you say you disliked it because
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  i actually have one of the notes that mike did
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  give me when he called me earlier he loves it
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  um was that as much as it made the start boring
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  um he actually is glad they did a rolling start
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  because of how dangerous spock just can be in
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  general well and they didn't turn on drs for
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  a while i mean while it's wet they wouldn't right
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  right right and that track was wet for it was
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  solid 20 laps until it even started to look like
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  it was drying out yep yeah it definitely was
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  um but i agree uh rolling starts were usually
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  um i prefer standing starts obviously but the
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  rolling starts made for an interesting start
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  to the race lando had a really weird start i
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  mean i think he started like way before the bus
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  top chicane um And then I think the reason why
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  he lost his position so quickly was he had a
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  bad turn into turn one, but also he used a lot
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  of his battery on the restart. And so Oscar just
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  passed him no issue. No problem. And that was
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  it. It was a weird pass almost. Yeah, no problem.
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  And Oscar was... I'm just trying to think of
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  the race as a whole. I mean, he felt immaculate.
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  I don't think he had really many issues at all.
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  Yeah, so... Stella came out and said that they
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  were kind of, quote, racing like champions. I
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  mean, that's the truth. They're 1 -2, right,
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  in the standings right now. So they're literally
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  fighting for the championship as well. Of course,
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  McLaren coming out, doing their thing. You got
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  anything else on them? Oh, what I did want to
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  ask. Yeah. That rolling start, you could see
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  just the, what do they call it, the rain coming
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  off the tires. There's a word for it. Displacement?
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  The spray. Or the spray, water displacement.
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  You got a word for it, Kev? Spray. He says spray.
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  Spray. So the spray. Have you played or raced
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  in a wet race yet on F125? I assume you have.
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  Yes, I have. So how? There sounds like there's
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  a story behind here. So this is a two -parter.
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  First part. How difficult is it to see in the
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  game with the spray? Do they make it pretty realistic?
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  I don't think visibility is too bad. It's definitely
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  not. Because on that rolling start behind the
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  McLarens, I'm like. you can't see anything dude
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  yeah i mean i'm never behind anyone in the game
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  so you know i don't have right sorry i'm a realist
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  i i know where i belong i think visibility is
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  okay i don't think they make it very good at
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  being like looking good and realistic but like
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  which would be tough i would imagine yeah i'm
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  not i'm no graphic they also they also don't
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  want you to be completely blind right but i mean
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  even though it would be kind of cool um i know
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  make it as real as it's a simulation game make
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  it as real as it's supposed to be Just so you
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  can barely see the little red light and you're
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  like, oh, shit. Yeah. You know, oh, well. Anyway,
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  so what's the story on the wet racing? Wet racing
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  is just, it's like it's okay, I guess. Like,
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  the problem is not the wet racing or rather the
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  wet driving. The problem is the wet racing against
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  the AIs because they are not as affected. They
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  do not have, they don't have the same level of
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  tire wear as the player does. Can you adjust
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  that? No. Really? I mean, you could turn down
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  their difficulty, and then you could be faster.
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  That's one thing that you could do in NASCAR
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  Heat 5, which is like six years old. Increase
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  or decrease the tire heat of your opponents.
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  The tire wear of the AI specifically for online
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  races, too. Interesting. You could even do it
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  for online races. Yeah, no, I think the only
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  thing you can do with the AI is change their
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  difficulty and change the rate that they get
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  the resources at, which is out of race. Interesting.
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  Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, like, I'm not the
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  only one. That would be annoying. Like, our current...
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  Our current F1 esports champion said the exact
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  same thing. It's just a problem right now with
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  the game. Mike and I, in our co -op career, we've
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  completely said, if we get another wet race,
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  we're just going to simulate and move on. Dang,
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  that bad, huh? You guys play a lot, so I feel
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  like you'd want the challenge, but if it's literally
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  impossible, like you said, then what's the point?
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  Yeah, exactly, and we tried playing this weekend,
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  and the last patch actually broke the game for
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  us, so we're not even playing F1 25 right now.
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  We actually did some online races with other
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  people. I got griefed once. It was actually for
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  the most part okay, but I got one race where
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  someone just sent it into the back of my car.
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  So about us racing. You might see that. I'm going
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  to try not to. Yeah, but you won't do it. This
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  guy was definitely doing it on purpose. Oh, on
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  purpose? Oh, I would never play F1 to crash on
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  purpose. If I'm doing that, I'm going to NASCAR.
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  He was 100 % doing it on purpose. Which, by the
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  way, not to plug it, there's a new NASCAR game
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  coming out this fall, and it's going to be awesome.
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  Yeah? I saw just minor game plan. It looked really
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  awesome, so I can't wait. I remember, I feel
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  like Heat didn't get very good reviews, did it?
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  Heat 5 was decent because everybody went back
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  to Heat 5 after Ignition 21 or whatever. just
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  sucked sucked it was garbage so everybody started
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  playing heat five and that's why you can still
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  play online this many years later which is crazy
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  because usually that gets shut down you know
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  so he five is a few years old then oh yeah oh
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  yeah he five is sorry f1 fans i know you don't
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  yeah i was about to say we're talking about our
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  game right now uh yeah i just feel like 2020
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  2020. I feel like I was looking at a NASCAR heat
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  game and it had bad mixed reviews on Steam or
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  something. I just won't touch it. No NASCAR game
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  has been good since NASCAR 14. NASCAR 08 was
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  good. 2003. What is it? Something to Daytona.
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  Road to Daytona? No, I didn't get it. Why am
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  I forgetting that? Anyway, whatever. Let's get
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  back on F1. Holy crap. If you want an NASCAR
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  pod, let me know. I'd probably run one. Yeah,
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  TLDR, game's bad. Anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway,
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  good thing. We got through McLaren so far. Awesome.
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  Let's do it. So we got to roll. Ferrari. Ferrari.
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  Actually looked great. Yeah. Yeah, Hamilton struggled
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  with quality, obviously. I still don't understand
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  what was going on there. But what a GP. And I
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  think he got driver of the day. He did? Yeah.
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  By a good amount, too. I mean, starting back
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  there, in the wet, too, and battling all the
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  way. I mean, for Europe words, what a mega drive.
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  You know what I mean? Europe words. Unbelievable.
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  Good thing I'm good on the fly. But, yeah, no,
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  seriously, mega drive from Hamilton. Great day.
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  Still has that skill, for sure. It was just fun
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  to see. Good drive. It's sad we don't get more
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  of that. I feel like we lack it a lot, but maybe...
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  Was there... Did they have an upgrade last race,
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  or was it this race that they had their upgrade?
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  So, funny enough, I think it was... I thought
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  it was last race, but funny enough, I just saw
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  a meme about their upgrades. They're called the
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  007 crew now. Oh, yeah? Charles and Hamilton.
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  The zero is like zero wins. The other zero, I
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  can't remember what the other zero was. Gosh,
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  this one is going to be good. And then the seven
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  was seven upgrades that have done nothing. I
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  was like, oh, my God. That's so rough, bro. But
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  Leclerc is on the podium. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
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  was he? Because Verstappen was. Leclerc started
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  third. Verstappen's still struggling with that
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  car, man. Leclerc kept him behind. Verstappen
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  finished only like a second and a half behind,
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  I think, if I remember right. You are correct.
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  It was literally a second and a half. Sweet.
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  But yeah, no, Verstappen... And Leclerc 20 seconds
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  behind Norris. Yeah, no, I mean, literally a
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  league of their own, the McLarens, unfortunately.
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  Would it have been better if it was a standing
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  start? Because they really pulled off immediately.
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  And then DRS didn't kick on until way later.
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  Like, is that a big factor to the McLarens? Let's
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  talk about it. I don't think it is a big factor
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  because the McLarens have been so freaking dominant
• 14:44
  the last few, you know what I mean? But, like,
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  do you think that played? Because when did DRS
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  come on? It was probably halfway to his distance
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  around. So here's my thing. Great Williams hat,
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  by the way. We didn't touch on that yet. Thank
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  you. It's a good one. I like it. I should have
• 15:00
  worn my Mercedes because it was a 1 -2, but,
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  like, I'm wearing blue. Oh, my gosh. I am not.
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  I'm so sorry. I'm not here today. I'm just checked
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  out mentally. Be here with me, Joe. Sorry, I'm
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  going to fly. That's crazy. On a standing start,
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  P1, not a good position to be in. Like we saw
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  last year, there's a possibility Norris doesn't
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  just lose one position, but he loses two or three
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  just because of how chaotic it can be. So I think.
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  probably the best result Norris could have gotten
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  at the start of the race. Just because, I mean,
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  historically his starts are better this year.
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  Are better this year, but historically bad. Not
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  great. Just bad. So I actually think, I think
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  the start could have shaken things up a little
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  bit. I think Norris probably could have fallen.
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  I don't think, I think he actually would have
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  still gotten ahead though. And won the race?
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  Yeah, definitely. He's ahead and he's not leaving
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  that spot. Unless Norris is like right there.
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  He's going to fight to the death. Yeah. Like
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  the only, I could see. I could see, like, maybe
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  Piastri gets ahead first turn. Norris is right
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  behind up of Eau Rouge. And then on that next
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  straight, Norris gets ahead there. But, like,
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  otherwise, I think Piastri's taking it no matter
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  what. But even at the end, Norris was actually
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  charging hard. Now, whether his tires would have
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  held on in the last lap, I don't know. And we
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  saw him go wide because he locked up again with,
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  like, three laps left, maybe. He was charging
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  hard. He had a couple of issues. Get that gap.
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  I thought he made it like two seconds, then he
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  locked up again, and then it was four seconds.
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  Or went wide on a turn. Yeah, they were talking
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  about it a lot. We were watching it. He was on
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  a completely different tire strategy than Piastri.
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  He went super long. I think it was a... Was he
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  on just a one -stop? Or was Piastri on the one
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  -stop? I can't remember. He was on a completely
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  different strategy, though. I think Piastri one
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  -stopped. Whether that was the original strategy,
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  but I really feel like Piastri one -stopped.
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  yeah i think you might be right either way I
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  think Lando's tires were technically newer, though,
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  than Piastri's. And, yeah, he just kept on locking
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  up. He kept pushing them way too hard. I just
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  don't understand what's up with that. Yeah, his
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  engineer was like, listen, you are faster than
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  him without having to do all this pushing. All
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  this extra stuff. Just drive naturally. Yeah,
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  he just couldn't make it done, which is fine.
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  It's still a McLaren 1 .2. I mean, obviously,
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  my predictions wanted it this way. He was just
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  antsy. Yeah, probably. Sorry, we keep regressing
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  back to McLaren. Ferrari fans. We mentioned literally
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  nothing about Ferrari and unfortunately we got
• 17:28
  to move on. So we talked about McLaren instead.
• 17:31
  Sorry. Yeah. Red Bull. Max Verstappen P4. Sonata.
• 17:36
  Better weekend. I think I agree with Mike. I
• 17:44
  think Sonata starts in the car in 2026. I don't
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  think there's any reason not to. Hopefully the
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  2026 car is more geared towards. just drivers
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  in general not Max Verstappen you know and since
• 17:59
  they got to start over hopefully that happens
• 18:01
  and I'm actually really curious we've never really
• 18:04
  talked enough about Red Bull on the show because
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  they're so good and we hate them well we don't
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  hate them Red Bull fans stay here because I think
• 18:12
  there's gonna be a lot to talk about with Red
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  Bull going forward um obviously news came out
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  this weekend Max Verstappen's going nowhere we'll
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  touch on it but with that I think you do start
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  Yuki in there, and then now, like I said, new
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  regs, new car. Maybe a fresh start for them,
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  and maybe they can actually take some of Yuki's
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  suggestions. Not that they're not. We don't know
• 18:33
  that. But I think Red Bull as a whole is going
• 18:37
  to be really interesting to just watch in the
• 18:39
  next literally 12 months. From now until next
• 18:42
  summer break, real curious to see where they're
• 18:45
  at. Yep, me too. I think it's smart that they
• 18:49
  keep him. I think with Laurent Mekis on the team,
• 18:52
  I think there's even more of a chance that they
• 18:54
  do keep him. I know this is Mike's point. I can't
• 18:57
  remember if he said this last week, but if he
• 18:59
  didn't, he made a good point to me at least that
• 19:01
  Laurent Mekis has always been a champion of Sonota.
• 19:05
  He did say that. I think there's a really good
• 19:09
  chance that he keeps him on and they should.
• 19:10
  I think he's a good driver. They just have a
• 19:12
  bad car right now. Maybe they make a car that
• 19:15
  both of them can drive. I'm curious to see if
• 19:18
  it nerfs Max a little bit because he might have
• 19:22
  to change his driving style a little. Maybe.
• 19:23
  Who knows? I think it's just a new chapter for
• 19:26
  Max. Sure. You know, I think he still can. Well,
• 19:30
  actually, I don't even know if I want to say
• 19:31
  he could still win a WDC because only because
• 19:33
  we have no idea. Who else is going to have a
• 19:36
  decent car? We can assume Red Bull, McLaren,
• 19:39
  Ferrari, Mercedes are probably going to have
• 19:41
  a somewhat decent car. Maybe Aston. We don't
• 19:43
  know. Somewhat decent car to start the season.
• 19:46
  We can't. We literally have no idea. Yeah, we
• 19:49
  can't count Aston. And I can't count out Max
• 19:52
  Verstappen. No, definitely not. You cannot. But
• 19:54
  I think he's going to have to. change the way
• 19:57
  he drives and the car is way smaller right i
• 19:59
  could unfortunately kind of count out mclaren
• 20:01
  just because they have two really good drivers
• 20:04
  but obviously they need a car to drive and they're
• 20:08
  going to win constructors which means that they're
• 20:09
  going to get less air wind tunnel time than everyone
• 20:12
  else with new specs so they're already already
• 20:15
  going to be on the back foot unfortunately yeah
• 20:16
  i didn't even think about that they could still
• 20:18
  could build a rocket ship and it won't matter
• 20:20
  uh we've seen red bull do it i think zach brown
• 20:22
  wants to punch you in the face right now why
• 20:25
  you're wrong I want to be wrong. I'd love to
• 20:28
  be wrong. I want to get punched. Come punch me
• 20:30
  in the face. We keep going back to McLaren. Who
• 20:32
  are we talking about? Mercedes? No, Red Bull.
• 20:34
  No, Red Bull. We haven't even reached Mercedes.
• 20:36
  Yeah, Red Bull. I think you cannot count Max
• 20:38
  out, right? So, I mean, next year he's going
• 20:40
  to be at least trying to fight for wins. 100%.
• 20:44
  Who doesn't want to win another WC? In fact,
• 20:46
  I'll even go as far as to say he's the only person
• 20:47
  I can count on that will have a win next year.
• 20:50
  The only person. For sure, locked in one win.
• 20:52
  For sure, locked in. Max will at least get one
• 20:54
  win next year. Fair enough. There's no way he
• 20:55
  doesn't. Fair enough. Fair enough. What about
• 20:58
  a guy like George Russell? George Russell, he's
• 21:02
  Mr. Consistent. He kind of just sneaks his way
• 21:04
  into podiums. I know. And he finished P5. Has
• 21:07
  he gotten a win this year yet? Yeah, yeah. He
• 21:09
  has gotten a win? Where was that? Yeah, he's
• 21:13
  got one, though. I think it's only one. Canada.
• 21:17
  Was it Canada? It was Canada. Okay. Yes. Yeah,
• 21:21
  I mean, you can't count him out. He might sneak
• 21:23
  in for a win next year. There's a chance he doesn't
• 21:25
  get any more wins this year. I don't know. Mercedes
• 21:27
  is just so up and down. It's just so weird. And
• 21:29
  the way Antonelli raced is partially Antonelli,
• 21:31
  too. I feel like, yeah, that was weird. He had
• 21:33
  a bad weekend. It was a really bad weekend for
• 21:35
  him. And, like, I was thinking about an earlier
• 21:39
  show. I can't remember which week it was. Probably
• 21:41
  after one where Antonelli got points. And I was
• 21:43
  like, you know, I wake up on Sunday curious.
• 21:47
  What Antonelli's going to do today, you know?
• 21:49
  And I can't do that anymore. Like, that's...
• 21:52
  What an idiot. Stupid. Because he looked like
• 21:56
  crap, dude. Like, seriously. I mean, just bad
• 21:59
  decisions all over the place, driving off the
• 22:01
  track, blowing through corners. It was just a
• 22:04
  bad weekend. So hopefully he can reset and get
• 22:06
  after it. I don't know if it was because it was
• 22:08
  wet. I think it's a mixture of, you know, Mercedes
• 22:12
  also just not being an elite car right now. but
• 22:18
  what did i put there oh so mercedes is actually
• 22:22
  this probably already happened by the time today
• 22:25
  i'm not sure but mercedes is holding like a whole
• 22:27
  do i dare say like company meeting you know with
• 22:31
  the drivers and all the mechanics and they're
• 22:33
  gonna try to figure this thing out figure out
• 22:35
  why performance since the win has been so poor
• 22:39
  like they got the win and then it's just been
• 22:42
  going downhill so and all in all hands team meeting
• 22:45
  all hands team meeting yeah for sure so we'll
• 22:48
  see what happens uh at the hungaro ring right
• 22:52
  yep you got it okay um i was like is it raw or
• 22:54
  raw oh well um so we'll see you know but yeah
• 22:58
  anthony not good he's he needs a rebound uh he
• 23:02
  was kind of up there for rookie of the year for
• 23:06
  me really uh i mean Yeah, yeah. He was playing
• 23:14
  nice. And then, you know, Hajar's had a good
• 23:17
  year. He finished P20 in a lap down this race.
• 23:20
  You know, Bierman's kind of been there, but kind
• 23:24
  of not. So now I don't know. Bortoletto just
• 23:27
  had a great weekend. He did. We'll talk about
• 23:29
  him in a second. So I don't know anymore. You
• 23:31
  know what I mean? But you've got to look for
• 23:33
  Rookie of the Year. You'd have to look at...
• 23:35
  the whole body of work. Not just how they end,
• 23:38
  but I'd be concerned if they end poorly. You
• 23:40
  definitely can't discount Kimi. He's in a better
• 23:44
  car than all of them. That's another thing to
• 23:48
  look at when you're looking at quote -unquote
• 23:49
  rookie there. Do they even do that? No. Actually,
• 23:53
  they might do that. They should. This year, there's
• 23:56
  six of them. That's true. There's not always
• 24:00
  new rookies. Last year, we didn't have a rookie,
• 24:01
  right? Or did we have one? I don't think so,
• 24:04
  because Joe was the year before. They do have
• 24:08
  a Rookie of the Year award. Yeah, they do have
• 24:10
  an FIA award ceremony during the winter break.
• 24:16
  Sure. So they do give out a Rookie of the Year.
• 24:17
  I believe Piastri got Rookie of the Year, I think.
• 24:21
  Okay, fair enough. That would make sense. Best
• 24:25
  performing, and it includes F1 and F2. So Gabby
• 24:28
  already won Rookie of the Year once. Okay, now
• 24:31
  I don't like it. So now we're going to come up
• 24:33
  with our own Rookie of the Year here on Banter
• 24:35
  with the Boys, and we got to figure that out.
• 24:37
  Yeah, Oscar, Charles, and Alex have all won Rookie
• 24:40
  of the Year. And they're all still currently
• 24:44
  in F1. And then... Gabby won last year for Formula
• 24:49
  2. He might have won. I don't know if they combine
• 24:51
  them both together and just pick one rookie out
• 24:53
  of both. That seems a little weird. That's what
• 24:54
  I mean. If they combine them, that's what would
• 24:56
  bug me. You know what I mean? I don't know. Rookie
• 25:03
  watch this year is good, though. Oh, for sure.
• 25:06
  That's why I keep telling Kev I can't wait to
• 25:07
  rip cards when they drop in November. Topps Chrome.
• 25:12
  F120. I think they'll call it 25, I hope. Yeah,
• 25:14
  I think so. I don't know. I don't know. But I
• 25:16
  think it drops in November, of course, and the
• 25:18
  season's pretty much over. So it's like, but
• 25:20
  we'll have fun. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. A couple
• 25:25
  of hobby boxes, you know, got to foot the bill.
• 25:28
  Yep. Yeah. You heard it. Anyway, Mercedes. We
• 25:31
  already talked about them. We just finished.
• 25:34
  Williams. Williams. How about in six? Albon.
• 25:37
  Albon, according to the commentators. Albon.
• 25:39
  Albon. either way right somebody tell us how
• 25:42
  to say his name alexander yeah he only lost position
• 25:47
  to one person that was russell that's it so and
• 25:51
  he was at that time his tires were pretty much
• 25:53
  dead i'm pretty sure when that happened if i
• 25:54
  remember right i think so and he was he said
• 25:56
  he was struggling and then george yeah i believe
• 25:58
  i believe russell was fighting albon for a while
• 26:00
  yeah i remember correct and i think he probably
• 26:03
  wore out his tires fighting him but great yeah
• 26:07
  great race for albon Way to get some points.
• 26:11
  Signs, not so much. But Signs kind of struggled
• 26:13
  all day, actually. But I feel like he was battling
• 26:16
  early, like mid -pack, and then something just
• 26:19
  didn't go right. Did he have a bad pit? I don't
• 26:22
  know if he had a bad pit. I definitely think
• 26:24
  he had some issues in the back of the field,
• 26:26
  though, with other drivers. Okay, okay. I just
• 26:28
  know I don't remember seeing him top 10 almost
• 26:33
  ever in this race. I don't know. Where are Williams
• 26:40
  in the constructors right now? I have it up right
• 26:43
  here. Do you? Okay. That should be a good thing
• 26:45
  I should have up. Williams. I'm an idiot. I just
• 26:48
  Googled constructors, and obviously it's not
• 26:50
  giving me what I was looking for. They're fifth
• 26:52
  by a good margin. They're fifth by 27 points.
• 26:57
  Two and. Kick. Kick. Oh, yeah. That's right.
• 27:00
  Kick. And kick just got some more points. So
• 27:03
  awesome. Kick is two points ahead of racing bulls
• 27:05
  at the moment. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's right.
• 27:07
  Okay, so that's going to be a good race. With
• 27:10
  Liam finishing eighth, Bortoletto ninth. Mm -hmm.
• 27:12
  Yeah, yeah. Okay, so, yeah, Williams pretty much
• 27:15
  has fifth, I want to say, locked up, but signs
• 27:19
  can't be finished in P18. No, definitely not.
• 27:21
  You know, if it's going to be locked up when
• 27:24
  you got Hulkenberg in 12th, Bortoletto in ninth,
• 27:26
  Hulkenberg's two spots away from points. They
• 27:26
  both need to be getting low points. So, yeah.
• 27:30
  All right. I mean, you're... partial williams
• 27:34
  fan i do like williams yeah um no not really
• 27:37
  i didn't really i guess there wasn't a lot to
• 27:39
  really pay attention to i mean the races in general
• 27:42
  just kind of kind of happened yep you know it
• 27:44
  didn't really nothing too wild no other than
• 27:47
  an hour and a half delay really yeah pretty much
• 27:49
  um racing bulls liam p8 don't know what that
• 27:54
  happens i mean i think he had he had good quality
• 27:57
  too no starting yeah he started yeah he started
• 27:59
  ninth so plus one Yeah, who dropped out of the
• 28:05
  top 10? Hajar. That's correct. Hajar had a bad
• 28:10
  day. What happened to Hajar? I can't remember.
• 28:13
  I'm going to be honest with you. I cannot recall
• 28:16
  what happened to Hajar. I feel like he pit a
• 28:17
  lot. I feel like he went to the pits a lot. Do
• 28:22
  they give you a thing? I think they might. Hold
• 28:24
  on. Oh, yeah. No, he only pit twice. Really?
• 28:27
  But all, actually everyone. That finished P16
• 28:32
  or worse, pit twice, and so did Hulkenberg, who
• 28:35
  was able to finish P12. Everybody else was on
• 28:38
  a one stop. That's wild. I felt like there was
• 28:41
  way more stops than that in general. Hmm. Interesting.
• 28:47
  Both of the pits were normal. I don't know what
• 28:50
  happened. Did you just fall behind? I wonder
• 28:53
  if they have, they might have. I know there is,
• 28:55
  I remember. Nothing would have happened there
• 28:58
  because I think Hamilton was passing Liam. That
• 29:00
  would make sense. When Hamilton almost freaking
• 29:03
  touched Liam's back wheel. That was crazy. Do
• 29:07
  you recall that at all? I thought he was about
• 29:12
  to touch his back wheel and give him a puncture
• 29:15
  or something late in the race. I was like, oh,
• 29:17
  my God. Oh, my God. Poor Liam. Typical. Anyway,
• 29:23
  sorry, Liam. Time of the day, I don't know what
• 29:25
  time of the day means. Like, I don't know what
• 29:30
  that means. I mean, I'll give you the time of
• 29:32
  the day. It's 8 .19. No, no, no. His average,
• 29:36
  so I can see fastest lap. Which was Kimi, of
• 29:40
  all people, I'm pretty sure. It was Kimi, yes.
• 29:45
  After we just slaughtered him. And he had a 144
• 29:48
  .8. Hadjar was last with a 147 .6. He was two
• 29:54
  seconds off the pace. Wow. And he was also slowest
• 29:58
  at an average speed of 211. Maybe he had an issue?
• 30:02
  That's what I'm wondering. Because if not, that's
• 30:05
  big concerns. Let's see. Super painful issue
• 30:11
  that marred a Belgian GP. Just real quick, sorry.
• 30:19
  It was a car issue. Car issue, okay. Joe and
• 30:23
  I did not have a ton of time to figure this all
• 30:26
  out, so that's why we're going on the fly. It's
• 30:27
  all good. Oh, and he also, he did, excuse me,
• 30:31
  he did, he was on, like, new mediums, and he
• 30:34
  had to pit again for hards to, I think, like,
• 30:37
  help an issue or... do something with an issue
• 30:40
  so he did pit so he did he did pit out of place
• 30:43
  and that ruined his yeah sure fair enough um
• 30:47
  again most of the people that pit twice at the
• 30:49
  bottom of the grid so makes sense um when most
• 30:53
  people are running a one -stop strategy yep uh
• 30:56
  let's see what do we got what do we got kicks
• 30:58
  albert bordelletto battling into p9 hulkenberg
• 31:01
  finishing p12 there was a time in the race where
• 31:04
  bordelletto asked To pass Hulkenberg, they gave
• 31:07
  him that opportunity and he seized it. Got himself
• 31:11
  into points. That's a good look for Gabriel.
• 31:14
  I don't think I'll ever see a moment where Hulkenberg
• 31:16
  won't secede his position. I think he's a team
• 31:20
  player. He's a team guy. And Bortolotto was on
• 31:23
  him. He was. It was good that he let him pass.
• 31:28
  Let's see if he can carry this momentum to Hungary.
• 31:32
  Into the summer break, I would really like to
• 31:34
  see that from Bortoletto specifically. Kick in
• 31:36
  general, yeah, for sure. Hulkenberg, who doesn't
• 31:38
  like him, right? But from Bortoletto specifically,
• 31:41
  yeah, I'm real curious how he'll end the season.
• 31:46
  Because he's been, I mean, battling the car,
• 31:48
  battling the car. Then we see Hulkenberg start
• 31:50
  doing well. Now Bortoletto, because Bortoletto
• 31:52
  had a good weekend in general. curious i mean
• 31:56
  is that car just turning around do they have
• 31:59
  any more upgrades to come or is this this is
• 32:01
  what we're going to get from kick now at this
• 32:03
  point or should we be more excited all right
• 32:05
  i'm curious to see what they bring out of out
• 32:07
  of summer um anything on kick for you uh i just
• 32:12
  had it's still weird seeing the green cars like
• 32:15
  in the middle of the pack yeah honestly very
• 32:17
  odd yeah i mean they were doing so badly and
• 32:20
  now they're doing pretty good um My second note
• 32:23
  that I got from Mike was good job, Gabby. Good
• 32:26
  job, Gabby. Happy to see Gabby doing so well.
• 32:28
  All right. Let's see. I guess it would be Alpine.
• 32:35
  Gasly fighting to get into points, I would say,
• 32:38
  with battling again a car that's just not great.
• 32:42
  The only note I have is that I personally am
• 32:45
  looking for Alpine to make a change in the second
• 32:47
  seat coming out of summer at this point. Who
• 32:50
  do you think should go in? I don't know. The
• 32:52
  season's a bust, so I would say... It doesn't
• 32:55
  even matter anymore, man. It doesn't. It doesn't.
• 32:58
  So that's why I mean, like, I'm not sure. I'm
• 33:01
  not sure. I mean, do they give Duane a little,
• 33:05
  like, a second try, or do they give the reserve
• 33:07
  driver... I feel like that'd be really weird.
• 33:10
  getting back in there i don't hate the idea but
• 33:13
  i feel like that would be a weird thing and then
• 33:15
  so you don't think they should keep you don't
• 33:17
  sorry to cut you off no no you don't think they
• 33:19
  should keep a single driver and let them learn
• 33:21
  how to drive a little bit i do i do but sorry
• 33:25
  i didn't mean that to feel targeted at you but
• 33:27
  it's a valid question it is a valid question
• 33:29
  because it's like how is one going to learn if
• 33:32
  you don't just keep throwing them to the fire
• 33:33
  right um but it's such a short leash with doing
• 33:37
  Has he learned anything else on the Sims? I'd
• 33:39
  imagine he's still using the same Sims that they
• 33:42
  are still available to him. Has he learned anything
• 33:44
  else? You know what I mean? I mean, I'd imagine
• 33:47
  he's gotten worse. You think so? If he's not
• 33:49
  in the car. If he's not in the car, right. And
• 33:52
  I don't know, do reserve drivers get to run any
• 33:56
  laps ever? Or are they just kind of hanging out?
• 34:00
  Reserve drivers? I don't think so. so where are
• 34:04
  they getting i think it's i think it's noted
• 34:05
  for like junior f2 drivers sure right right right
• 34:09
  for the fp1 stuff i think so right right like
• 34:12
  reserve can get they can get in the car but that's
• 34:14
  if a driver is out for the weekend do most f1
• 34:17
  hqs i don't know if alpines does should be something
• 34:20
  alpine fan would know but do most hqs have a
• 34:23
  track available to them close by for testing
• 34:25
  i'd imagine yeah i would say so so why like but
• 34:28
  i don't think they can do it whenever they want
• 34:30
  i think they get a certain time see and that's
• 34:33
  That's interesting. Yeah, I think reserve drivers
• 34:35
  should be able to get laps in at the practice
• 34:38
  track kind of whenever. Not like, oh man, I can't
• 34:43
  sleep and it's midnight. I'm going to go turn
• 34:44
  some laps. You know what I mean? Right. or at
• 34:47
  least can i borrow the keys i want to take it
• 34:49
  for a spin and then and now i just like or at
• 34:51
  least have the ability to hop on a sim at midnight
• 34:53
  but i was like that's dumb too if you break that
• 34:55
  somehow so like no i mean the sims i feel like
• 34:57
  the sims if you break that obviously it probably
• 35:01
  is expensive but i think there's more of i'm
• 35:03
  sure they also have like sim time there's way
• 35:05
  more flexibility with a sim yeah i'm sure they
• 35:08
  still have to set time for it but like but i
• 35:10
  would hope that there's time set aside or at
• 35:13
  least available to the reserve drivers to be
• 35:15
  doing that you know what i mean oh yeah i mean
• 35:17
  they gotta be doing it they gotta stay sharp
• 35:18
  too you know and i'm sure like even even toto
• 35:21
  like he's probably being asked by other people's
• 35:24
  like hey what are botas sometimes looking like
• 35:26
  i was just about to say i wonder if alpine like
• 35:31
  is like hey cadillac let's get one of your drivers
• 35:36
  in the seat for the end of the season we'll just
• 35:39
  it's fine just pay us some money or something
• 35:41
  like warm botas up botas gets in the car it's
• 35:45
  like a bullpen calling that can we get botas
• 35:47
  warming up yeah you see a mustache into the field
• 35:50
  running with a how high of a possibility is that
• 35:53
  probably pretty low i don't but it'd be crazy
• 35:57
  to see botas in an alpine um but i'm here for
• 36:01
  it you know will we see botas in alpine first
• 36:03
  or christian horner in an alpine shirt first
• 36:05
  oh that is such a good question all right anyway
• 36:09
  um man that's such a good question because they
• 36:13
  are looking at botas to fill that that seat and
• 36:16
  just see how he does see if they're if they're
• 36:18
  just like you know in general screw these rookies
• 36:21
  let's get someone who knows how to drive a car
• 36:23
  and has driven for a long time in like just i
• 36:25
  would say even like they're already on their
• 36:27
  bs right just give them like two races crazy
• 36:30
  stuff has already been happening at alpine they're
• 36:34
  dead last in the constructors they're gonna finish
• 36:36
  there let them set the record for most driver
• 36:38
  swaps in a season I think something crazy could
• 36:42
  be coming for this out of summer break. And they're
• 36:45
  finishers, though. I don't think they're going
• 36:47
  to go catch Williams by any means. You still
• 36:52
  got constructors pulled up? How far back are
• 36:54
  they of second to last? They are... Probably
• 36:57
  like a solid 30. I hope not, because that's probably
• 37:02
  done. Did you say how far they are in second
• 37:05
  to last? Yeah, when can they catch the next position?
• 37:08
  How far back are they? So they're in 10th currently.
• 37:12
  Correct, yeah. And they are 15 points behind
• 37:14
  Haas. 15? They are 16 points behind Aston. Whoa,
• 37:19
  uh -uh. Season back on. Season back on for Alpine.
• 37:23
  15? Okay, let me go ahead and just bring you
• 37:25
  back down to Earth for a second. Just hold on.
• 37:27
  I want you to realize that Alpine's most points
• 37:29
  they're getting in a weekend is probably going
• 37:31
  to be like six. Yeah, okay. I said three, so,
• 37:34
  you know, whatever. But they finished strong.
• 37:38
  You never know. Hey, you never know. Alonzo and
• 37:40
  Stroll finished 14 and 17. Where did Gasly finish?
• 37:43
  10. Alpine finished really high last year. They
• 37:46
  finished fifth, right? They did. And they finished
• 37:48
  well. They woke up in the back end of the year.
• 37:50
  It could 100 % happen. Like, I'm expecting Alpine
• 37:54
  to get some energy back at the end of the year.
• 37:56
  I hope so. I just don't know who it's going to
• 37:58
  be for that second try. Yeah, I don't either.
• 38:00
  Okay, but, I mean, like, we're wasting time here
• 38:03
  a little, but that's okay. I don't know if we
• 38:05
  answered your question. You didn't know that's
• 38:06
  what we were doing to start? You said the next
• 38:12
  person they put in is finishing. I don't think
• 38:15
  I got your answer. Who's it going to be? Let's
• 38:18
  make a fun little prediction. Who do you think
• 38:20
  is going to fill that second seat? If it's not
• 38:22
  Colapinto, who is it? I was going to be cheeky
• 38:28
  and say Colapinto. You could. I don't know. I
• 38:33
  have a gut feeling that there's going to be a
• 38:35
  change. I don't think it'll be doing. I don't
• 38:39
  think it'll be. I don't think it'll be. Jack
• 38:40
  Crawford, right? Is that the next? No, that's
• 38:43
  that's the Red Bull driver. Jack Crawford, right?
• 38:46
  Oh, you're right. But. Daniel Ricardo. I don't
• 38:53
  know. You know, I'm just kidding. But I think
• 38:56
  it would be Colapinto before Botas, honestly,
• 38:58
  if I'm being a realist. You think it could still
• 39:00
  keep Colapinto? The money. You know, it's got
• 39:04
  to be good. Otherwise, like, dude's not figuring
• 39:06
  it out right now. But, again, it's like you take
• 39:08
  him out, when is he going to figure it out? So
• 39:10
  he's got all this upside. So did Jack Doohan.
• 39:14
  So does every other rookie on this, you know,
• 39:16
  on the grid. That's why they're in a seat. Everybody
• 39:20
  else has had a chance to stay in the seat, even
• 39:22
  struggling. So why is it different at Alpine?
• 39:24
  Yeah. Which, again, goes back to why did Jack
• 39:26
  Doohan have such a short lease then? short leash
• 39:28
  then you're totally right but again i think they
• 39:30
  know they knew they had franco colopinto sitting
• 39:33
  there and i think that's the only reason why
• 39:35
  if it was a veteran driver sitting and waiting
• 39:37
  they would not have pulled jack doing out of
• 39:40
  the seat i think it's because i had another young
• 39:42
  driver sitting there waiting what's your what's
• 39:46
  your prediction obviously it's about to change
• 39:48
  i just looked something up quick and a name popped
• 39:50
  up that made me smile mick schumacher No, no
• 39:55
  way. No way. I think he's driving for Alpine
• 39:58
  in a sports car right now, I think. I think you're
• 40:01
  right. Or at least he drove for Alpine in Le
• 40:04
  Mans, at least. I don't know if he's driving.
• 40:05
  He's not driving them consistently in a sports
• 40:07
  car. Did you just Google Mick? No, I said, who
• 40:10
  can replace Cole Pinto in F1? And the first result,
• 40:12
  no joke, Valtteri Bottas and Mick Schumacher
• 40:15
  are being considered. This was obviously Google's
• 40:18
  AI overview. I didn't even think about Mick,
• 40:20
  though. But it's been, what, how long? Two years?
• 40:24
  Since he's driven an F1? Yeah, I don't think
• 40:26
  he's coming back, unfortunately. Not like that,
• 40:28
  at least. It'd be wild if they brought Mick back.
• 40:31
  What would be his path back? What would be his
• 40:33
  path back? What would be his path back? Yeah,
• 40:35
  Mick. Probably right now. You think so? I don't
• 40:38
  think there's any other way, you know? You don't
• 40:39
  think Cadillac takes a flyer on him? Ooh, I think
• 40:42
  it's really unlikely Cadillac. I'm unfortunately...
• 40:45
  I still think it's Botas and Sergio. I feel like
• 40:47
  Botas is a pretty good bet. Unfortunately, I'm
• 40:50
  leaning towards Sergio, too. And it's BS that
• 40:52
  we keep getting all these bullcrap. memes and
• 40:54
  bull like unofficial officially unofficial signed
• 40:58
  stuff nah call me when he signs this one commentator
• 41:02
  said that uh they definitely signed these two
• 41:05
  when i read the article i was like he didn't
• 41:06
  say that at all oh my god he just said that he
• 41:09
  just said name he just said that all right all
• 41:12
  right we better talk about hoss quick because
• 41:13
  mike's probably gonna listen to this tonight
• 41:16
  um while he's sitting around could be yeah um
• 41:19
  beerman 11 all con 15 That's it, man. That's
• 41:24
  it. That's it, man. You know, Berman had a good
• 41:26
  run up. Berman probably the worst rookie on the
• 41:28
  grid. No, I'm just kidding. He's been all right.
• 41:30
  No, no, no. That was so rough. No, no, no. And
• 41:32
  again, I think with Kimmy's struggles, now I
• 41:34
  have no idea because it's not just this weekend
• 41:37
  that Kimmy struggled. He's kind of been on this
• 41:39
  downward trend all of a sudden. Oh, I don't think
• 41:42
  Kimmy's worst rookie of the year, though. It's
• 41:44
  Lawson, 100%. If we're considering him a rookie,
• 41:48
  it's 100 % loss and worst rookie of the year.
• 41:50
  Oh, worst rookie. No, no, no. I'm not saying
• 41:53
  there's a worst rookie of the year. Were you
• 41:54
  calling Bearman worst rookie of the year? As
• 41:56
  a joke. Yeah, I was definitely not. My inner
• 42:00
  mic was coming out. It's all good. Your inner
• 42:03
  hate for loss? I mean, no. Okay. My love for
• 42:06
  Bearman, my hate for Lawson. But I think Antonelli's,
• 42:09
  I don't even want to say decline. He's just kind
• 42:11
  of going through a rough patch right now. I'm
• 42:14
  still excited about Kimi. I still think I'm going
• 42:16
  to be a Mercedes fan next year. We'll find out.
• 42:18
  But with Kimi's kind of decline, I think that's
• 42:21
  opening more eyes to guys like Bierman and now
• 42:26
  maybe Bortoletto as that quote -unquote rookie
• 42:30
  of the year. I don't know. I don't know. We'll
• 42:33
  see. Bierman's head? An okay season. Where's
• 42:36
  he on driver standings in comparison to Liam?
• 42:41
  In comparison to Liam, he's below Liam. He is
• 42:45
  below Liam. He is by eight points. Whoa, by eight
• 42:48
  points. Well, Liam had that one good finish,
• 42:50
  what, two weeks ago? Like a week ago, I think.
• 42:53
  About a week ago. No, okay. Anyway. Is Lawson
• 42:56
  on an upswing? Maybe. Is Liam going to be in
• 43:01
  seat two at Red Bull? Again? Not Yuki? No. I'm
• 43:06
  over that. I think Yuki will be there. Anyway,
• 43:08
  at least to start. I think it's just Aston, right?
• 43:13
  We talked about everybody? God, we're just rambling
• 43:15
  now. Yeah, it's interesting that we usually go
• 43:20
  in order of the one who did the best on the team,
• 43:22
  and we got down to 11. And now we're at Aston
• 43:26
  14 and 17. So like one driver of each team did
• 43:30
  decent and the other driver typically did not
• 43:32
  do well. So it's weird to see. Yeah, that usually
• 43:35
  is not the case. That's true. We have a lot of
• 43:37
  teams in the top, a lot of different teams in
• 43:39
  the top 10. I think the commentator said that
• 43:41
  during qualifying. I was like, this is like the
• 43:42
  first time we're seeing five different teams
• 43:44
  out. I think it was like out in the qualifying
• 43:46
  session. All of them are like five different
• 43:49
  teams. Is that a good sign? I think so. Competition
• 43:54
  -wise? Yeah, I think so. I think it's a good
• 43:56
  sign. Or it's a sign that someone really messed
• 43:59
  up. Yeah, good point. Which, I mean, it also
• 44:02
  means that someone that should be up in the top
• 44:04
  has to fight. Hamilton should be out of Q1. Yep.
• 44:07
  I wish I watched more of Hamilton's race. There
• 44:10
  was also a meme that I saw that was funny. Sorry.
• 44:13
  We are truly rambling at this point. It was Toto
• 44:17
  getting down into Kimmy's face, looking at him
• 44:20
  like that in the car, saying, Kimmy, I meant
• 44:23
  finish P1, not out in Q1. I thought that was
• 44:26
  funny. Anyway, because I read it in his voice.
• 44:29
  I wasn't going to say it in his voice because
• 44:31
  I would have messed that up. Aston, anyway, sorry.
• 44:34
  Sorry, Mike's second favorite team. Ooh, I think
• 44:37
  kick passed him. Sorry. Mike's third favorite
• 44:40
  team. One of Mike's hats that he wears. Not good.
• 44:45
  Just not good. Not good. Not good. Nothing more
• 44:47
  to say, I don't think. Nope, nope, nope, nope,
• 44:48
  nope. Before we move on, calm call -outs. The
• 44:52
  only thing that I kind of... It's not even a
• 44:55
  call -out. But later in the race, when Oscar's
• 45:00
  engineer was kind of asking him, like, hey, we
• 45:03
  think it's the best strategy to stay on this
• 45:06
  tire and to do a one -stop and just... try to
• 45:08
  take this to the end, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 45:10
  And Oscar's saying, you know, there's definitely,
• 45:13
  you know, dag already. So, you know, we'll see.
• 45:16
  I'm not confident it'll make it to the end. Just
• 45:19
  the communication that these teams are able to
• 45:21
  have just blows my mind. Yes, they have that
• 45:23
  NASCAR too, you know, whatever for you NASCAR
• 45:25
  freaks. But just the ability to be able to talk
• 45:29
  directly to an engineer. Yep, we're working on
• 45:32
  it. We're looking at that. You got other people
• 45:33
  checking things out. It's just, I don't know.
• 45:36
  just another example of like how cool it is and
• 45:38
  how key communication with your team can be in
• 45:42
  f1 you know what i mean and then they you know
• 45:44
  towards the end then they're like they updated
• 45:46
  them they're like we still think this is the
• 45:47
  right strategy and or something and he was you
• 45:50
  know keep keep going and he was like yeah i'm
• 45:52
  happy to hear that or something like that uh
• 45:54
  i actually i'd love that point i'm glad you said
• 45:57
  it i have two two kind of like things to branch
• 46:00
  off with one uh i think it was at that where
• 46:03
  the engineers were asking how oscar felt about
• 46:06
  the tires one of the commentators said i don't
• 46:08
  know why he's asking that they have all the data
• 46:09
  in front of them that shows them like this is
• 46:11
  the tire to be on and this is good and i'm like
• 46:13
  oh what data will never tell you yeah you have
• 46:16
  the data that says that the tire should be good
• 46:18
  but if the driver says it's not good then like
• 46:21
  you should trust your driver it's like there's
• 46:23
  no way you can't have a two you can't like you
• 46:25
  need that two -way communication yes i was like
• 46:27
  that's crazy that you just said that crazy i
• 46:30
  feel like i could be wrong feeling the car real
• 46:33
  time yeah they have the data real time it might
• 46:35
  have been nico roseberger said that and i was
• 46:37
  like that's crazy that you just said that a former
• 46:39
  champion it's insane um my second point to branch
• 46:43
  off of i recently saw a video i hope it wasn't
• 46:45
  nico that is insane that's a great point yeah
• 46:46
  former champions yeah it's crazy um and this
• 46:49
  is around so this is around the time that nico
• 46:51
  was driving i think but uh There was a time,
• 46:54
  this was I think right around radios got really
• 46:55
  good. There was a time that engineers couldn't
• 46:58
  help out the drivers like that. I saw a clip.
• 47:03
  No, this was way more recent than that. Way more
• 47:06
  recent. I think in the mid -2000s. Oh, in the
• 47:09
  2010s even? I think so. Hamilton was asking,
• 47:14
  he's like, hey, this thing's happening. What
• 47:16
  can I do? And they were giving him very basic
• 47:18
  information about the race. He's like, okay,
• 47:21
  but I'm still having this issue. What can I do?
• 47:22
  and the engineer literally said bono literally
• 47:24
  said he's like i unfortunately can't tell you
• 47:27
  I can't help you. So there was rules and regulations?
• 47:29
  Yes. It lasted like a year, I think, because
• 47:32
  everyone realized how stupid it was. Why did
• 47:35
  they do that? I don't know. I didn't even know
• 47:36
  that. I'm going to have to look that up now.
• 47:37
  I'm pretty sure it was just like the driver should
• 47:39
  be able to drive their own race. For sure. The
• 47:42
  engineer should be there to just maybe give them
• 47:45
  info of stuff around them, but they shouldn't
• 47:47
  be able to help them with the race or tell them
• 47:49
  how to fix things. Hamilton was like, I'm having
• 47:51
  this issue. What setting do I do? And they were
• 47:54
  just like, and he would be like, I'm just. gonna
• 47:56
  press every single button i have here to fix
• 47:58
  this issue and and he and bono the only thing
• 48:00
  bono could say was we don't recommend that we
• 48:02
  don't recommend that he was like what do i do
• 48:04
  that what do i do he's like i can't i can't give
• 48:06
  you that information lewis you know i can't yeah
• 48:08
  so there was a time i'm hopping when they would
• 48:10
  not be isn't that insane that's crazy that's
• 48:12
  crazy i think i'd only lasted a year everyone
• 48:15
  realized how stupid it was and then that's so
• 48:17
  dumb yeah yeah that's so dumb wow okay crazy
• 48:20
  that's crazy yeah i didn't realize that until
• 48:22
  i think i saw a tiktok this weekend and i was
• 48:24
  like that's insane Quick thoughts? I don't really
• 48:28
  have one. Other than heal up, Mike, and we'll
• 48:31
  see you next week. I want to make this a quick
• 48:36
  thought. We don't do anything quick here. Do
• 48:41
  you think we were a bit too safe this weekend
• 48:44
  with the big delay and then the rolling start?
• 48:48
  Spa has created, I think, the most deaths, I
• 48:51
  think, unfortunately. that part, right? Yeah.
• 48:54
  Rouge or whatever. Rouge. Yeah. At the very top.
• 48:57
  Yeah. I just got in some of those videos are
• 49:00
  just so crazy how fast that that can change at
• 49:05
  the top of that hill. It's simply it's simply
• 49:07
  like you're going so fast up the hill and then
• 49:09
  the runoff is just it's there's just not enough
• 49:11
  of it. So if I'm a fan, which I am. I'm Tyler.
• 49:15
  Fan. Hi, Tyler. Actually, I'm Smelty on the pod.
• 49:18
  Oh, my God. I just gave away my name. Yeah, you
• 49:22
  got to bleep it. I'm bleep. Anyway, what was
• 49:27
  I going with that? Oh, as a fan, as a fan, they
• 49:30
  were too safe. If I was FIA, they did exactly
• 49:35
  what they were supposed to do to keep the drivers
• 49:37
  safe. Drivers went out during their exploration
• 49:43
  laps behind the safety car. We could hear even
• 49:45
  PSG was like, yeah, it's really wet in these
• 49:47
  places. It's still shining water. I wish they
• 49:51
  probably would have ended maybe a little or they
• 49:53
  started a little bit earlier. If they got the
• 49:56
  cars on track a little earlier, they could have
• 49:58
  cleared that water, I think, the same. I think
• 50:00
  they were maybe a tiny bit too cautious on the
• 50:02
  delay, but probably fair in the rolling start,
• 50:06
  I think. We're going to lose fans right here.
• 50:10
  So NASCAR gets, you know, pickup trucks, big
• 50:15
  old blowers fans out there. Oh, okay. I feel
• 50:19
  like I never see that for F1 race. You definitely
• 50:21
  don't see it. I mean, because it takes forever.
• 50:23
  They're not just going to, like Sky Sports is
• 50:25
  just going to be like, wow, look at that tractor.
• 50:27
  Here we go. We're seeing the tractor hit the
• 50:29
  corner right here at two miles an hour. There
• 50:31
  was not a lot going on. So we definitely got
• 50:32
  visual of the tractor blowing water. Yep. We
• 50:35
  definitely saw that. I must have missed that
• 50:36
  somehow. God. All right. Well. Mute point. I
• 50:40
  don't think it's as good as the NASCAR ones.
• 50:42
  First of all, the track is long. Oh, for sure.
• 50:45
  It would take forever. No, you'd have to have
• 50:47
  them stationed at different points on the outside
• 50:49
  of the track, which we all know that some tracks
• 50:51
  just don't have that option. When there's an
• 50:54
  accident, I'm trying to think of... It's not
• 50:57
  Monaco. Is it Monaco? I can't remember. When
• 51:01
  there's an accident, it just takes so long to
• 51:03
  clear it because they don't have cranes sitting.
• 51:05
  In Monaco, if there's an accident, they're almost
• 51:07
  100 % craning it off of the track because they
• 51:10
  can't just pull it off. I don't think it is Monaco,
• 51:15
  but there's another one where they don't have
• 51:17
  all that available. It just takes forever to
• 51:19
  get the car off the track. You wouldn't have
• 51:22
  a tractor with a dryer ready yet. Jetta, maybe.
• 51:24
  I think it takes a little bit of time. Okay.
• 51:26
  Either way. Sorry. Rambling. Kev, we're going
• 51:30
  to head to just our quick little section of news,
• 51:32
  and then we'll move right into our Hungaroring
• 51:34
  preview. Really, the only... quote -unquote news
• 51:47
  that i have right now is that uh helmet i'm sorry
• 51:50
  helmet came out and said that uh that's just
• 51:53
  my pet nickname for him um pet nickname yep we're
• 51:56
  gonna stick with it uh that because for stappen
• 52:00
  i think it was even the sprint race that did
• 52:03
  it before the gp even started um but that for
• 52:07
  stappen is to stay at red bull because he will
• 52:10
  not be fourth or lower in the WDC after Hungary
• 52:13
  or heading into the summer break, which was one
• 52:16
  of the exit clause stipulations in Max's Red
• 52:18
  Bull deal, which is good through 2028. Interesting.
• 52:23
  Yeah. I'm not sure if the sprint win fully did
• 52:27
  it. I know it was a factor. I think it could
• 52:30
  have, though. I can't remember. So Max is staying
• 52:34
  at Red Bull for 2026, according to Helmut. Oh,
• 52:39
  well. My quick take on it, I think it's just
• 52:42
  cope for why he's not going anywhere. People
• 52:45
  are like, he's definitely going, and it's like,
• 52:46
  oh, no, he can't because of the clauses. Like,
• 52:48
  no, he was never going. I'm still standing behind
• 52:51
  the fact he was never going anywhere. No, dude,
• 52:53
  no. There's no way. Does he retire at Red Bull?
• 52:55
  I personally think he will retire at Red Bull,
• 52:58
  yes. I mean, right now, arguably. Interesting.
• 53:02
  Is he the greatest Red Bull driver to this point?
• 53:05
  Do you put him above? A young, dominant Sebastian
• 53:09
  Vettel? I think so. Yeah, I think so, too. I
• 53:12
  think so. Barely. I wasn't around to watch Vettel,
• 53:15
  though. I know. Well, I watched him at Ferrari.
• 53:18
  Yes. I watched him when he was not doing very
• 53:20
  well. Right, right. Yeah, the only other thing
• 53:25
  I wanted that's not even news, I guess this would
• 53:26
  have been a quick thought. Shoot. Anyway. Oh,
• 53:30
  no, we already talked about it. The two Cadillac
• 53:32
  drivers, who we think they might be. I definitely
• 53:35
  think Botas will probably win. And there's a
• 53:37
  lot of rumors out there that it's Botas and Sergio.
• 53:39
  There's a lot of rumors about it. And I think
• 53:43
  they're probably correct. Probably. And then
• 53:46
  do you think they just pick a rookie as a reserve?
• 53:48
  Be like, hey, you want to be a reserve? Yeah,
• 53:51
  why not? Cool. Well, we figured that out. Let's
• 53:55
  go right into our Hungaro ring preview. All right,
• 54:10
  I'm here to bring you up to speed for the Formula
• 54:11
  One Lenovo Hungarian Grand Prix 2025. Per usual,
• 54:16
  usually I give a fun fact. I think this time
• 54:18
  around I'm just going to give you weather updates
• 54:20
  for the weekend coming up. The chance of rain
• 54:23
  for the race is sitting at about 60%. We are
• 54:25
  going to get rain the night before the race,
• 54:27
  and then during the hours of the race I think
• 54:29
  we're sitting at around 30%. So there's a chance
• 54:31
  we might see a little bit of wet race, a chance
• 54:34
  we might not. Interesting. Kind of see when we
• 54:36
  get there. What did you say, the temperature?
• 54:38
  I did not say the temperature. No, I should have,
• 54:40
  though. I will do that next time. I got you.
• 54:42
  Yeah. If you want to do that really quick, and
• 54:45
  then we'll jump into the recap of last year.
• 54:49
  The recap. The recap. Yeah, that's what you said,
• 54:53
  right? Hungaro ring. That's all they talk there.
• 54:57
  Yeah. Totally. Let me see here. Let me see here.
• 55:01
  Standby. AccuWeather is just being slow. That's
• 55:03
  just the first one I clicked on. So if I'm wrong,
• 55:05
  sorry. So don't base it on this. 76 degrees.
• 55:09
  Is this Fahrenheit or what? I'm assuming it is.
• 55:11
  It's probably Fahrenheit. It's probably Fahrenheit.
• 55:12
  I think if it was Celsius, it would be the sun.
• 55:13
  It would be a lot lower. Yeah, right. Good point.
• 55:17
  Right. All right. Let's jump into last year's
• 55:20
  race. Lights out in the McLaren's led Verstappen
• 55:23
  to the first turn, where we go three wide through
• 55:25
  the corner. Piastri in the middle of the other
• 55:28
  two taking the lead of the race. Max having to
• 55:30
  go super wide off the track and rejoining ahead
• 55:33
  of both Lando and Hamilton, who had found some
• 55:35
  space to overtake Lando after the first. corner
• 55:37
  piastri starts pulling away after the next few
• 55:40
  corners meanwhile lando fights for the third
• 55:42
  position back and jumps on the radio to claiming
• 55:44
  that max needs to give the position back max
• 55:47
  jumps on his radio to state that he was ahead
• 55:49
  of the apex and the position is his max keeps
• 55:51
  it for the time being lap four the move between
• 55:54
  max and lando is finally under investigation
• 55:56
  gp suggests that max give the position back after
• 55:59
  vocalizing his displeasure on the radio he does
• 56:02
  slow down right after one naturally and give
• 56:05
  second position back to the mclaren of Lando
• 56:07
  the current order on lap four is Piaggia Lando
• 56:09
  to Max this will be important later lap 35 half
• 56:13
  race distance pit stop strategy has put Hamilton
• 56:15
  in third from an undercut and overall better
• 56:18
  pit than Max who is right behind him at the start
• 56:20
  of this lap he gets close but defends Max at
• 56:23
  the start of t1 Hamilton locks up before getting
• 56:25
  through the turn and Max gets the advantage and
• 56:27
  starts getting alongside down the hill with a
• 56:29
  better entrance into the turn and the help of
• 56:31
  DRS Max sweeps on the outside and gets ahead
• 56:34
  of Hamilton taking back third position however
• 56:37
  his move keeps him too wide when with too much
• 56:39
  speed he runs off track having to slow it down
• 56:42
  and get back before hitting the grass giving
• 56:43
  Hamilton P3 back 41 both Hamilton and Leclerc
• 56:47
  take their second pit from the undercut on Max
• 56:49
  who once again vocalizes his pleasure with the
• 56:52
  strategy similarly lap 37 Lando pits before Piastri
• 56:55
  to cover Hamilton next lap Piastri's in the pits
• 56:58
  his teammate passing him on track inadvertently
• 57:00
  undercutting Piastri before Verstappen pits for
• 57:04
  his last lap the order is now Verstappen to Norris
• 57:06
  to Piastri to Hamilton same lap Lando gets a
• 57:09
  team order to swap positions back at his convenience
• 57:11
  no reply to that order right away as Oscar has
• 57:14
  a moment in the final corners touching gravel
• 57:16
  and spewing it on track 50, Max makes his final
• 57:20
  pit stop. Four laps later, GP makes a comment
• 57:22
  about how Max has introduced the new tires to
• 57:24
  the track. Just makes a little snide comment
• 57:27
  about, oh, so that's how you introduce it, right?
• 57:30
  Max verbally abuses him on the Red Bull strategy
• 57:33
  and how they have ruined his race. Lap 55, Lando's
• 57:38
  engineer asks him to start saving tires so they
• 57:40
  can let Oscar through, who is just under four
• 57:42
  seconds behind. Lando replies with how they shouldn't
• 57:44
  have boxed him differently if they wanted positions
• 57:47
  swapped. He is met back with a doesn't matter,
• 57:50
  and Lando retorts with, I mean, it does. Two
• 57:53
  laps later, and Max takes foreposition from Leclerc,
• 57:56
  cutting back to Leclerc's Lando's engineer, gives
• 58:00
  him info on his tires, where he needs to save,
• 58:02
  where Piastri is, and that I know you will do
• 58:05
  the right thing. Lap 63, we get some carnage
• 58:09
  as Max with DRS runs up the starting straight
• 58:12
  towards Hamilton, puts it on the inside, and
• 58:14
  has a massive lockup, running his back wheel
• 58:16
  into Hamilton's front right. Max's rear end gets
• 58:19
  sent into the air, and he slams back down to
• 58:22
  the ground, rejoining the track behind the clear
• 58:24
  in fifth. Max is on the radio stating how Hamilton
• 58:26
  turned into him, and GP responds snarkily, I'm
• 58:29
  not even going to get into a radio fight with
• 58:31
  the other teams, Max. We will let the stewards
• 58:33
  do their thing. It's childish on the radio. Lap
• 58:36
  68, we hear from Landers engineer Will Joseph
• 58:39
  one more time. The way to win a championship
• 58:41
  is not by yourself. It's with the team. You're
• 58:44
  going to need Oscar, and you're going to need
• 58:46
  the team. With three laps left, Lando lets Oscar
• 58:50
  catch up and fly by, taking it all for his first
• 58:53
  win in F1. Our final is Piastri to Norris, Hamilton
• 58:57
  to Leclerc, Verstappen to Sainz, Perez to Russell,
• 59:01
  Sunoda to Stroll. I remember this race so vividly
• 59:08
  because it was, it was like the papaya rules
• 59:11
  and the argument between Lando and his engineer
• 59:13
  and Oscar, just not knowing what's going on.
• 59:15
  And then the, and then the fight between Max
• 59:18
  and his engineer, literally a domestic, like
• 59:21
  verbally abusing. crazy i remember this race
• 59:27
  not because it was a good race but because it
• 59:29
  was just like a drama almost uncomfortable right
• 59:31
  like the second half of the race was so drama
• 59:33
  filled it was so fun yep um i gotta touch on
• 59:37
  the mclaren thing because like that bugged me
• 59:40
  it bugged me because i am kind of siding with
• 59:42
  lando on that why did you box me then if you
• 59:45
  wanted that Why do I need to slow down to give
• 59:48
  the place back when I was just listening to you
• 59:51
  guys to tell me to box, and that's what I did.
• 59:52
  You know what I mean? That really irked me, and
• 59:56
  I remember it irking me, and obviously I made
• 59:58
  it well known I'm not a McLaren fan. Boom! There
• 1:00:01
  goes Max being an idiot. That's totally on Max.
• 1:00:03
  I don't know what he's talking about. I think
• 1:00:04
  he's just completely upset. He's just in his
• 1:00:07
  own head probably. He was in tunnel vision at
• 1:00:08
  that point. He was like, I'm going to make this
• 1:00:10
  corner. He was driving angry. And you didn't.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah, we're just replaying it up here, my bad.
• 1:00:17
  There it is again. Dude, just full lock. Full
• 1:00:20
  lock, yeah. Complete full lock. Dude, he really
• 1:00:21
  got air on that. Yeah, he turned into me. No,
• 1:00:24
  he didn't, Max. No, Max, he did not. He turned
• 1:00:26
  because that's where the turn was, dog. You were
• 1:00:28
  flying right through it. Hamilton was like, I
• 1:00:31
  didn't turn into him. And then his radio was
• 1:00:33
  like, his engineer, Bono, was like, yeah, you
• 1:00:35
  know, Max had no control on his car. It's on
• 1:00:37
  him. Yeah, yeah. I might need to actually go
• 1:00:40
  screenshot that right from that camera angle
• 1:00:42
  where you see Max's car just way up in there.
• 1:00:44
  I love that view. That's funny. You don't see
• 1:00:46
  that very often in F1. kind of talking about
• 1:00:49
  where you're just saying i think normally i would
• 1:00:52
  agree with you but it was made incredibly clear
• 1:00:55
  and i i i'm glad they don't do this anymore because
• 1:00:58
  obviously it made more problems than it solved
• 1:01:00
  anything their their rules was if you're ahead
• 1:01:03
  after turn one that's the order that we finished
• 1:01:06
  the race that was the rules yeah that they were
• 1:01:08
  doing he was told that that's the way it's it's
• 1:01:10
  probably not fair but it's what they decided
• 1:01:12
  on but i but i But what he said, though, I will
• 1:01:16
  still stand on that. I totally get where you're
• 1:01:19
  coming from. He's right. Why would you box me?
• 1:01:20
  It was bad strategy from McLaren. I completely
• 1:01:23
  agree with you. It's just they had team orders
• 1:01:26
  from before the race even began. And if that's
• 1:01:30
  what it is, that's what it is, man. That's what
• 1:01:31
  you got to do. And like they stated, too, like
• 1:01:34
  his engineer stated, if you want to win a championship,
• 1:01:37
  you need the team, you need Oscar, which is totally
• 1:01:39
  true. As we saw with... I mean, I don't know.
• 1:01:45
  Did Lewis need Botas? Did Verstappen arguably
• 1:01:48
  needed Sergio to win that one championship that
• 1:01:52
  we just won't talk about? Because that's, you
• 1:01:55
  know, whatever. Let's see. What else happened
• 1:02:00
  that race? Yeah. Okay. So we touched on the Lando
• 1:02:02
  thing. And then, yeah, the Max thing and verbally
• 1:02:05
  abusing his engineer. I love that. Yeah. Okay.
• 1:02:09
  Well. shaping up for another crazy race with
• 1:02:12
  the potential of rain that's that's the tough
• 1:02:14
  part hopefully crazy it'd be fun i also see 60
• 1:02:17
  chance still at this current moment and it is
• 1:02:19
  wednesday right now so i was reading that that's
• 1:02:22
  like a low prediction at the moment so it might
• 1:02:24
  change but And I know for our weather here locally,
• 1:02:28
  you can't trust anything past 24 hours right
• 1:02:30
  now. Pretty much. If even same day. You have
• 1:02:33
  Mike's predictions. I do. If I'm still leading,
• 1:02:37
  I guess I should go first. You still have to
• 1:02:39
  go first. Let me see where we're at. I don't
• 1:02:41
  even know if I'm going to trust you here. Let
• 1:02:43
  me just see. Give me the right numbers. I am
• 1:02:45
  still leading. Wow. I thought I had a bad week.
• 1:02:48
  Did I have a bad week? You did. Compared to you
• 1:02:50
  guys, I did. And it's only because I picked Lando
• 1:02:53
  to win instead of Oscar. Yep. What a fool. Stupid,
• 1:02:58
  stupid, stupid. Which one of you was debating
• 1:03:01
  on Charles? Was that you or Mike? I know one
• 1:03:03
  of you was debating hard. It might have been
• 1:03:04
  Mike then. That doesn't sound like Mike though.
• 1:03:07
  I know, but I thought one of you. I was debating
• 1:03:09
  on Max instead of George. Fair enough. I don't
• 1:03:14
  know if I even consider Charles to be honest.
• 1:03:18
  So it wasn't you. Let me see here. I'm finally
• 1:03:24
  ahead of Mike. You are finally ahead of Mike.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah, points update. Smelty's at 35. Joe's up
• 1:03:30
  to 33. Mike's at 32. It is a close race right
• 1:03:33
  now. It's getting close, yeah. Halfway through
• 1:03:35
  the season. So if somebody gets a six right now,
• 1:03:37
  that could literally change the standing. So
• 1:03:40
  that's kind of fun. Hmm. I should have thought
• 1:03:45
  about this, huh? I didn't really think about
• 1:03:46
  it either. Hungaroring. Hmm. I like racing this
• 1:03:58
  track. I don't love it. You don't love it? No,
• 1:04:01
  not really. Okay. Ooh, golly. I really don't
• 1:04:07
  want to go right now. I don't know. God, Oscar
• 1:04:12
  just... Okay, Landau. Okay. Might as well do
• 1:04:20
  Oscar. Okay. Max Verstappen. You took my... Yeah,
• 1:04:29
  I don't know. You took my exact podium. I do
• 1:04:31
  think Charles... I think we're going to see Charles
• 1:04:33
  floating with a lot of podiums in the second
• 1:04:35
  half of the season. It's just a vibe I get, even
• 1:04:38
  though allegedly 007, right? But, you know, we
• 1:04:42
  should start using that. That sounds good. What
• 1:04:45
  do you got, Joe? Oh, man. You had my exact podium.
• 1:04:48
  Don't do it. Don't. Don't change your podium
• 1:04:50
  up for the sake of viewership. Do what you actually
• 1:04:53
  want. Viewership is... I want to be different
• 1:04:57
  than you so I have an opportunity to get more
• 1:04:59
  points. But you have an opportunity to get more
• 1:05:02
  points than me too. But I think I'm safe at least
• 1:05:04
  going Oscar and then Lando. Should be two points
• 1:05:08
  automatic. I'm trying to decide if I want to
• 1:05:11
  put Max or if I want to put someone else. Do
• 1:05:13
  you think Charles might get up there? The only
• 1:05:16
  reason I didn't consider George... George is
• 1:05:19
  because they're just not again since that win
• 1:05:24
  it just hasn't been the same yeah you know and
• 1:05:27
  it's kind of crappy weather Mercedes is kind
• 1:05:28
  of a crappy weather car but I didn't feel confident
• 1:05:33
  enough which is crazy considering George's got
• 1:05:35
  me some points this year I'm gonna put max all
• 1:05:38
  right Talk to Mata George. George was never in
• 1:05:42
  the conversation. Let me go ahead and get to
• 1:05:47
  Mike's. I have not read it. You didn't read it?
• 1:05:50
  He sent it to me on Discord and he spoilered
• 1:05:53
  it so I couldn't see it until I click on it.
• 1:05:57
  Here's predictions. Same as us? No. Lando, Oscar,
• 1:06:04
  and Charles. Lando, Oscar, and Charles. Okay.
• 1:06:08
  Lando, Oscar, and Charles. Okay, so there's some
• 1:06:11
  variety here. We all had the potential of almost
• 1:06:16
  getting the top two, at least, because I did
• 1:06:18
  want to do Lando and then Oscar, but they are
• 1:06:20
  so back and forth. I have potential of really
• 1:06:24
  losing some points this weekend. I mean, us too,
• 1:06:29
  though. Right, yeah. I think Max is a safe bet
• 1:06:34
  for this race. Once again, we all have different...
• 1:06:37
  Podiums, oh, so that's cool. It is different.
• 1:06:39
  It is different. Gosh. Wow, Charles is really
• 1:06:43
  throwing me off. I can't stop looking at it.
• 1:06:45
  I don't know why. He's really throwing me off.
• 1:06:48
  You know what's throwing me off? Because now
• 1:06:49
  I'm like, damn, should I have done Charles? You
• 1:06:51
  know what's throwing me off? Nico in Silverstone
• 1:06:53
  on that podium. It's weird seeing his name up
• 1:06:55
  there. I know. There it is. All right. Yeah,
• 1:06:59
  it looks like a typo, right? Nico on the Silverstone
• 1:07:01
  podium. What? Oh, my God. We still have. Okay,
• 1:07:06
  Zan. Oh, yeah, Zan. Monza, Baku, Singapore, Kota,
• 1:07:11
  Mexico, Brazil, Vegas, Qatar, Abu Dhabi. God,
• 1:07:14
  I don't know what it is. I don't know what it
• 1:07:17
  is. I love the Qatar and Abu Dhabi tracks. I
• 1:07:19
  do, too. And Jetta. I don't know. I don't understand
• 1:07:21
  why. I don't. I don't know. I like them, too.
• 1:07:24
  I love those tracks, but anyway, we're going
• 1:07:27
  to continue rambling. We should probably end
• 1:07:28
  it. Joe? Translate. Anyway. Thanks for being
• 1:07:34
  here. Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for
• 1:07:36
  not calling your mom right away to get her to
• 1:07:37
  come pick you up. She's been waiting for the
• 1:07:39
  last hour. Well, we rambled, so you can tell
• 1:07:41
  her it's your fault. I will. Yeah, it is my fault,
• 1:07:44
  but it was fun. Tell her you were talking about
• 1:07:45
  Mick Schumacher again. Yeah, honestly, that's
• 1:07:47
  what threw us off. That's what it is. Kev, obviously,
• 1:07:50
  behind the cameras, everything, getting it done.
• 1:07:53
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• 1:07:59
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• 1:08:01
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