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🏡 The Valley Reunion Part 3 Breakdown + 🏙️ Next Gen NYC Chat · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Drama Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back in It's drama Darling. Today we're
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  Speaker 2: doing the Valley Reunion Part three and a little swish
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  Speaker 2: of Next Gen New York City. Joining me is Dianna Chang.
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  Speaker 2: Dianna Chang, Are you ready to do some Valley and
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  Speaker 2: Next Gen nice?
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  Speaker 3: Sure? Am? Well, sure am?
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  Speaker 2: You know I am like I've been glued to the
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  Speaker 2: Lindsey Clancy trial, as you know, and so yesterday, just
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  Speaker 2: so everybody knows, I did not post this on the
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  Speaker 2: public because this is a bonus episode for Patreon and
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  Speaker 2: it's on the luxury level for Apple subscription. But it
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  Speaker 2: is a breakdown of the I don't know the timeline,
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  Speaker 2: maybe some inconsistencies and some questions that myself and Elisa
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  Speaker 2: Rosen have about this trial. So we went through it
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  Speaker 2: in our opinion, and allegedly we did this at our
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  Speaker 2: you know, in our in our free time. And so
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  Speaker 2: that is up if you are interested in that. Aliza
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  Speaker 2: is a producer of a lot of true crime podcasts, television,
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  Speaker 2: film and knows a thing or two. So we ye,
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  Speaker 2: And now we didn't get into the heavily into the
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  Speaker 2: mental health aspect of it, because I had already covered
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  Speaker 2: that aspect of it with your bish therapist a few
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, where we talked about the medication and postpartum psychosis, depression, anxiety,
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  Speaker 2: things of that nature. That actually is on the public
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  Speaker 2: so if you haven't listened to that, you can listen
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  Speaker 2: to that. But that is really nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the inconsistencies that I'm finding watching this trial. So those
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  Speaker 2: are two separate things. So two separate podcasts, two separate timelines,
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  Speaker 2: and if you're interested, check it out. It's really the
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  Speaker 2: biggest trial that's going on right now, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it's huge, huge for women in general, advocacy for mental
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  Speaker 2: health and beyond, and maybe some other things. Who knows
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  Speaker 2: what will happen with this trial.
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  Speaker 3: Alisa had me on Love Trapped podcast. It's about the
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor who this guy who was kind of hated at
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  Speaker 3: his time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh oh okay uh.
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  Speaker 3: But this woman, Laura basically traps him into thinking she's
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  Speaker 3: pregnant and then you go down this road.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I have completely heard about this.
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  Speaker 3: I just she she had me listening because she loved
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  Speaker 3: She was like, I'm obsessed with it, So I was
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  Speaker 3: still dealing with that when the Lindsay Clancy trial came
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I take another you know, I just
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  Speaker 3: can't add on. And I tried to start watching deep
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  Speaker 3: into when it already started, and I just I needed
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  Speaker 3: a break, you know, in between stories. Unfortunately, I'll have
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  Speaker 3: to get at it.
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  Speaker 2: I've found that a lot of my close friends are
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  Speaker 2: in a similar situation. Missed the beginning of this, and
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  Speaker 2: they're right now catching up. And it's really hard to say, like,
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  Speaker 2: just keep just keep reading, just keep researching, and just
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  Speaker 2: keep watching because things will unfold and you won't be
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  Speaker 2: able to deny what is happening right now. So that's
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  Speaker 2: why I'm like, I get it. I think you and
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  Speaker 2: many of ore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was like asking around, like I've asked you.
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  Speaker 3: Ask my friend Casey. I'm like, how do I start?
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  Speaker 3: Where do I go? You know? And she was like
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  Speaker 3: start with this article, but I just couldn't get over
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  Speaker 3: there because of love trapped, you know. And then you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just it's like somebody also needs to put like
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  Speaker 3: a comprehensive document together that like tells us how to
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  Speaker 3: approach this, And I'm like, where do I go?
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  Speaker 2: Are you still wondering are you still needing to get
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  Speaker 2: in because I do have.
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  Speaker 3: A still need time. I still need time.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, great, So when you're ready then, because I have
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  Speaker 2: had to help people at least get a baseline and
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  Speaker 2: then honestly, listen to mine and Lisa's podcast, listen to that.
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  Speaker 3: That's so there you go.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you want to, if you're
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  Speaker 2: not Sigama, but like, no, that'll be a nice way.
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  Speaker 2: It's very much a lot of broad strokesure and we
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  Speaker 2: narrow it down. We don't get into the peripheral bullshit
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  Speaker 2: that is spiraling out there. We're not just following any thread.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: That's very very strict and conservative about what road we
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  Speaker 2: want to go down and what we actually want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about.
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  Speaker 3: So because that's what I found, I'm like, all I'm finding.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, where do I look in Casey goes the internet,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, well where you know? She's like, it is
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  Speaker 3: the Internet. I don't know, it's everything, And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how to manage that. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: all I'm seeing art, this one, that one in the
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  Speaker 3: other too much talking about it and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: who these people are or if I should.
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  Speaker 2: If you can trust it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, So okay, that's good. I'm going to try
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  Speaker 3: to go with yeah, trust me, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 3: with you there, because we're.
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  Speaker 2: Also not saying that any one person is guilty either,
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  Speaker 2: and we're just following things that have been sort of
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  Speaker 2: fact checked, and we're following some of the evidence. We're
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  Speaker 2: following the photos. Cool, okay, all right, Well it's not
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  Speaker 2: as deep today, which is nice. So I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: enjoying the fact that we're going to get into the
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  Speaker 2: valley nextend. Why don't we start with the valley?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Great. By the way, Wing had never heard your
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  Speaker 3: impression of Brittany before until your Instagram post, and he
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  Speaker 3: called me last night and he was like, oh my god, no,
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  Speaker 3: Now he was just like Amy's impression of Brittany is
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  Speaker 3: beyond anything I've ever heard before. He was like, I
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  Speaker 3: can't get over it. It's yeah, he really couldn't get
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  Speaker 3: over it. I think I know.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, it's yeah, go ahead, yeah, no, no, please
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  Speaker 2: continue with the tell them that I don't want to.
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  Speaker 3: Tell not only is it such a funny impression, but
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  Speaker 3: like what she had to say on top of it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, it's the writing, it's the impression, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's all of it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, and that's why we connected
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  Speaker 2: all those years ago on Funnier Die. There you go
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  Speaker 2: that It's like, it's all about the writing. It's all
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  Speaker 2: about and you are just so damn funny. How to
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  Speaker 2: be less old boy? Do you shine?
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  Speaker 3: You don't need to give me a compliment anymy, You
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  Speaker 3: just take yours, give you one another time, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, okay, But I do want to mention that last
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  Speaker 2: week when we were talking about the Valley, we could not,
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  Speaker 2: for the life of us think of the The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 2: What was it called Golden the Golden Bachelor, what the
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  Speaker 2: gal group that was formed, and what their slogan was,
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  Speaker 2: because that's what I was saying, it's asking.
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  Speaker 3: Asking, asking.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're asking, we're telling you're selling. So, because
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  Speaker 4: last week we were going off on different phrases that
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  Speaker 4: Brittany was would say, and I think you started with like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you don't doubt it, I pout it or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, if I'm choosing, I'm losing.
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  Speaker 2: And that reminded us of the Golden Bachelor. So we
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  Speaker 2: figured it out. Guys, Deanna did a Google search and
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  Speaker 2: found it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are our gals, you know, we do. We
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  Speaker 3: take them in. We are obsessed, and then we have
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  Speaker 3: to release and let new in.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's the name of the game, folks.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, that is the name of the game.
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  Speaker 2: So now the valley. It's nice to wrap this up
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  Speaker 2: because last week, and I am so glad that I
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  Speaker 2: was championing this episode as one of the great reunions,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I think that you kind of co signed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you were as enthusiastic, but I have
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  Speaker 2: found I think.
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  Speaker 3: It was a great reunion. Oh, great reunion all in
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  Speaker 3: you know, just okay, it's the Sorry if I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: as demand about it, but it's just this. You know,
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  Speaker 3: these it's they have basic shacutery boards. We are not
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  Speaker 3: getting glamour for love, for for anything. We can't get
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  Speaker 3: for love or money, nothing, you know. But what we
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  Speaker 3: are getting is history and relationships and that'll take you.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was happy to see that the internet really
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  Speaker 2: co signed that last week was an incredible reunion. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: some very strong words, some great reviews on that reunion,
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  Speaker 2: and I was happy to see that we weren't the
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  Speaker 2: only ones that were, you know, giving it a standing. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that this week was great. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: really did wrap up with the bow. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 2: Danny and Janet, where are they going to go? Nobody knows?
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  Speaker 2: You know, where's it? Where's gonna go? With everybody they go, No,
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  Speaker 2: nobody knows. And that's fine and that's where it should land.
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  Speaker 2: And we can talk through that momentarily. But I did
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  Speaker 2: appreciate that there were a lot of apologies.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Strien is you know, wow is that growth?
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  Speaker 3: And wow? Has she developed as a human.
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  Speaker 2: But it was wild to watch her this season and
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  Speaker 2: see these things that she said that were like such
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  Speaker 2: like large short names and then just flat out like
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  Speaker 2: lies in her not understanding what she actually said in
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  Speaker 2: that moment that it was like that not the Christian
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  Speaker 2: that we know. So it is really nice to have
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  Speaker 2: her be like, I can't believe what I saw in myself.
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  Speaker 3: Amy. My favorite moment of this episode I laughed hard
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  Speaker 3: was after after you know, they're talking about how she
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  Speaker 3: said all of her friends have drinking problems and she
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  Speaker 3: is emotional about it, and she says to Andy, I
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  Speaker 3: was gutted, and he goes, huh, and he was gutted.
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  Speaker 3: It's a gut by her own words. She was good
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  Speaker 3: it crying for two days over her own word, by yourself,
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  Speaker 3: you know yourself, right, she got it herself.
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  Speaker 2: And she really yeah, to be different new I just
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  Speaker 2: put like. Christ admits that she christ Christen's apologies. Kristin
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  Speaker 2: admits for saying the comment about the timing of Janet
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  Speaker 2: sharing her story. Kristen admits that she shut down Jasmine
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  Speaker 2: because of her own anger towards Janet, which while Kristen
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  Speaker 2: was explaining it, Jasmine.
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  Speaker 4: Was trying to talk and trying to act something and
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  Speaker 4: Kristen was like, and I just really shut you down.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, you're doing it right now.
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  Speaker 2: And then Kristen was horrified that she said that Zach
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  Speaker 2: and Brittany and Jasmine were had all drinking problems.
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  Speaker 3: It's comedy to be god, you know, by the words
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  Speaker 3: you spoke quite freely, you know, to be that taken
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  Speaker 3: aback by.
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  Speaker 2: Yourself, that's what is really quite shocking. And I would
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  Speaker 2: have really liked and maybe they did talk about it
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  Speaker 2: more at the reunion. They probably cut out a lot
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  Speaker 2: because it sounded like she was making references to postpartum
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  Speaker 2: either anxiety, some sort of postpartum something. She did mention
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  Speaker 2: that before about postpartum rage, because I remember last week
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  Speaker 2: she was like, I mean I've got post I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's postpartum rage, and everyone was kind of laughing, like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I think you already had that rage before, and she
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  Speaker 2: was like, there's a difference between like the Christian rage
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  Speaker 2: and the postpartum rage, which I thought was right, very insightful,
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  Speaker 2: and there is a difference, you know. Yeah, But like
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  Speaker 2: I did appreciate that she did share that, but I
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  Speaker 2: would have liked to have heard more about, like, well, right,
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  Speaker 2: what else did you go through that got you to
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  Speaker 2: this point that you were just saying things that like
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  Speaker 2: you don't even remember, right.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 2: She took a hard stance at herself.
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  Speaker 3: She did. She said, I will not deal with that
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  Speaker 3: self again that.
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  Speaker 2: I takes it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I mean, I guess, yes, there isn't right
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  Speaker 3: to your point, there is an argument. It's like, in
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  Speaker 3: the same way someone gets drunk and can't rip and
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  Speaker 3: is shocked by their behavior, the postpartum and as deep
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  Speaker 3: as she was in it, she's also coming out of
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  Speaker 3: it and shocked by certain things, so that is fair.
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  Speaker 3: I think in that moment when she just calmly rattled off,
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  Speaker 3: sort of like with Levity that all her friends had
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  Speaker 3: drinking problems, it just didn't feel like it was in
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  Speaker 3: the same space as the same sort of postpartum you
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  Speaker 3: know situation.
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  Speaker 2: So like she believes it, but you know what, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I did feel like when Brittany was.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I just can't believe that you said about like
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  Speaker 5: christ did I like and and.
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  Speaker 2: We had that flashback to her and in Lake Arrowhead
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  Speaker 2: and she's like.
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  Speaker 5: Jakes did that to be all the tabby how dealt
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  Speaker 5: with that with him? But he was trying to pipe
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  Speaker 5: me the way.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, I gotta tell you words are they are
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  Speaker 2: heavy and they do mean something and to the viewers
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  Speaker 2: because when Kristen said that about Brittany and how Brittany
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  Speaker 2: has a drinking problem you should look at her, I
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  Speaker 2: immediately was like, Wow, if Kristin is saying this, then
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  Speaker 2: I actually might believe that Brittany does have a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a problem. Because I remember questioning Brittany back in
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  Speaker 2: those Lake era head.
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  Speaker 3: We both did okay, so well. But I also think
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  Speaker 3: that she does party that do you doubt I do
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  Speaker 3: think you do well, Brittany. I think just a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: that's right, A little bit more than a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if we're being real, I know you don't
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  Speaker 3: want that to be setting. You have a child and
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel good, but you want to get back
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  Speaker 3: out there and party.
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  Speaker 5: I think that is true.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So there we have.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not ready to say that, and that's fine. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: two seasons, give you two staysies. I'll keep ry Gabe.
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  Speaker 3: You got to britt We'll see into the take on
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  Speaker 3: the bed.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. But you know what, Kristen's just like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, blubbering mess over the words that she said.
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  Speaker 2: And she does feel like she's in a safe space
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  Speaker 2: because she feels supported by the people that she's hurt,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because they are friends. And the juxtaposition of
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  Speaker 2: Kristen just really you know, putting on the hair shirt
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  Speaker 2: and you know, sacrificing herself to Danny who is fighting
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  Speaker 2: at tooth and nail and tooth and nail and tooth
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  Speaker 2: and nail, and once he got to the end when
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  Speaker 2: Laala said to him like, you know, this is like
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  Speaker 2: you are continuing to blame other people for your drinking
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  Speaker 2: and this is a real problem. And I'll be damned
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  Speaker 2: if you blame Jacks and the whole thing about you
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  Speaker 2: poured drinks when you thought no one was looking then,
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  Speaker 2: And he basically is like la, la, I hear you,
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  Speaker 2: and it's something I'm working on. Like I was actually
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  Speaker 2: actually shocked the way that he said that, because I
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  Speaker 2: thought he's going to go off, he's going to be
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  Speaker 2: super defensive. He was very controlled, But that statement and
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  Speaker 2: the way he said it was the only tiny bit
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  Speaker 2: of hope I had for Well, maybe he is addressing
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  Speaker 2: the alcohol aspect in therapy. Yeah, what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I think. I think what I
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  Speaker 3: think is.
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  Speaker 2: He's not ready to admit it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know if he has a drinking problem
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  Speaker 3: or not. Like, let me put that over to the side.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like what Lala said was was illuminating in
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  Speaker 3: terms of when you you don't have to be a
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  Speaker 3: full blown alcoholic to drink and act poorly and therefore
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  Speaker 3: need to stop. Yeah, there's a nuance to that that
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  Speaker 3: I aligned with. I thought, yeah, that makes sense to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, and Andy saying like, why don't you stop drinking
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  Speaker 2: on camera?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: He's like, I really don't drink very much, but I
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  Speaker 3: do drink every single time I'm on camera. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: now we have to start to wonder about that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, And now we have to start wondering about denial, right.
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  Speaker 3: And it just starts to not season after season line up,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because you should be able to I thought
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  Speaker 3: the most revealing thing, Yeah, was was the after party.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because if I just you know, listen, if I
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  Speaker 3: and it was interesting because as measured and as media
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  Speaker 3: trained as I think Nia is, Yeah, she got caught
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  Speaker 3: in this.
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  Speaker 2: She lost the ball. She lost the ball, and I
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  Speaker 2: went to the other team. No matter how many times
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  Speaker 2: she tried to fumble and pick it back up again,
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  Speaker 2: no words, no way that she could explain that it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't exactly what she meant when no matter the tiny
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  Speaker 2: words that she's trying to have an issue with, she meant,
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  Speaker 2: do not let my husband go to the after party
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  Speaker 2: make a fool of himself. He's already blackout, drunk.
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  Speaker 3: End a story because if I said to wing babe,
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  Speaker 3: we're going in the hotel and we're I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't even drink, so like that's crazy. But like if
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  Speaker 3: he wanted to hang out with people, let's say, and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Babe, I really want to go to
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  Speaker 3: her best the hotel where it's just you and my
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  Speaker 3: staying in. That's the end of the story, like or
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  Speaker 3: it's or it's not, or we talk about it more.
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  Speaker 3: But but I don't need to call anyone ever to
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  Speaker 3: check his behavior on something we've agreed upon. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know it's like they never did agree
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: on anything, because he's a loose cannon, right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Right, he was if he got a call from Jesse saying,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: after party at my place, he's out. He's out of
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: that hotel, and he sure is.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Kenny doesn't even know where. Yeah, but like also even
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  Speaker 2: though she trusts Jesse because she knows that Jesse and
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Danny have this agreement, but still Jesse's gonna shoot his
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: mouth off and tell people like he did totally she
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: thought she had.
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  Speaker 3: But no, Yeah, it's just the kind of thing that
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  Speaker 3: a grown ass man, you know, someone that's like twenty
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: year old behavior, you know, when you're in your twenties.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it is. It is that really Yeah, like guys,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: please don't encourage my boyfriend to go hear you know,
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  Speaker 3: like that kind of thing. I can totally twenties, no problem.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: It seems like to me he probably acted like that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: in his earlier years. Then he started having kids. He
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: probably didn't drink much at the beginning because of the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: chaos and you know, settling down. And then as time
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: went on, the more kids, the more loose he's getting
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: because it's more it's more stressful, and you need a release,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and so then things start to snowball a little bit,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: and then it becomes this binge drinking thing where he
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: can justify why he's doing it because of all the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: hard work that he is putting into life in general.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Well guess what we can all say that, you know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: but I did appreciate Andy saying like if you if
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: the things that you do, you know, that are on
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  Speaker 2: camera that are like unsavory for people, and you're drinking,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you just like make that change? And we
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  Speaker 2: all have said that, like why would you come back
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  Speaker 2: another season and then just try to like hide drinks?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And I do think that that's a red flag. Lala
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: saying yeah, Laala saying he's blaming Jack's for like coming
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: after he is he is in projection City.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and as much as like you know, Nia thinks,
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  Speaker 3: I think she thinks she has it under control, she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have him under control. She doesn't, no, and she's
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  Speaker 3: she's mad at everyone else, but she does not have
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  Speaker 3: her husband under control.
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  Speaker 2: These are some big life lessons here in the Valley,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they really are.
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  Speaker 3: Not that you should have your but like you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean, not, I guess, like it's not like
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  Speaker 3: you need to be in control of your partner, but
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  Speaker 3: she does not. She wants to project that everything is
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  Speaker 3: Like that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I know exactly what you mean. And to
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  Speaker 2: jump on your point even further, Like that's why I
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  Speaker 2: think this show is very relatable because like their relationship
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  Speaker 2: is a very extreme sample of a lot of relationships. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very one person's trying to control the other and the
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  Speaker 2: other one's a little bit unhinged, and you know, they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep it on lockdown Andre and so really
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  Speaker 2: this is such a huge lesson for the controller, the
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  Speaker 2: one that is the perfectionist and the one that wants
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  Speaker 2: to have it all together, and to accept imperfection, to
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  Speaker 2: okay to not have your ship to get interesting.
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  Speaker 3: That would be an interesting season to let Nia just
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  Speaker 3: let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Well if she does, and I think that would take
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hard work. It's just the hardest part
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for her right now is honestly having the time to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: like have a minute to reflect on that and do
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  Speaker 2: the work when she has so many kids.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she's not going to because I think because
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  Speaker 3: of her past and because of her desire to have
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: you know, she's not going to just let it be
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: a free for all on her husband, Like she's just
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: not and he is pissed at her.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Just went for the jugular and said leave him and
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  Speaker 2: be happy. Be I'm sure she's just mad. But like
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I just felt like, ah, don't say that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I know. I think it's where who feels. I do
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  Speaker 3: think it's what she feels, and I think I've felt
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  Speaker 3: that way during the season. So it's not that I
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: haven't had that thought. I have, you know, But ultimately
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that's not like there's a million steps hopefully before that
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope that they can do that. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: then lastly, I just want to say that sometimes patterns
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: with people when they couple up, and your toxic behaviors
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: feed each other. So like her toxic behavior of wanting
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to control him is making him lash out back at her.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: He's probably angry about that because she's constantly trying to,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Put a top on it. Yes, her whole life is
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: putting a top on it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: That's why he's so short, because she keeps putting a tap,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: she keeps she's like bumping him into the ground.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I did see him. I did see something on instag
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: where he's commenting on the cushion height.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he did what he said.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Luke's is a little higher than his. And he's looking
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: at those inches and being pissed.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh, is he saying that his cushion was lower?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: It does look lower in the photo. Okay, okay, so
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: that's hard. You know, he's wondering. We did address the
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  Speaker 3: whole cushion aspect of it. We did wonder you know,
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  Speaker 3: when my mom comes to visit, I had to get
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: her like a booster kind of cushion for the couch
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  Speaker 3: because We have a couch.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: It's like from West Allen.
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  Speaker 3: And it's kind of thinking.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It's not a sinker, it's just a low it's like
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: a mid century modern like low couch. And we've had
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: it for a little while and I just did not
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: think about how low it actually is till it started
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: getting older.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, shrank to get up.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So I got that cushion, and it's just a I mean,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: it's a gem. I love the cushion. Everybody loves the cushion.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, And does it stay when she's not here?
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  Speaker 2: It's not there anymore.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: No.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: We did take it out, but for a while when
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: she was gone, we kicked around with it and the
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  Speaker 2: how how convenient that she's bringing up this right now.
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  Speaker 3: Oh they rang the bell? Okay, thank you sir. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it is, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: that was nasty. But you guys saying like she, yeah,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: she but she didn't acknowledge, you know, the many times
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: that she's done that, And I just thought, like, right,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: they one hundred percent, like they go home and they
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: are just like, these are horrible people, but we need
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: the money, right.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: No, they literally are like, this is the worst case
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: scenario for our lives and we'll be doing this till
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the day we die. Buckle up, buckle up, buttercups.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I had something to say. I don't remember
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: what it was.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, but yeah, go ahead, Janet? Did we
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: need to go back to Janet? I'm sorry. I feel
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: like I took us off.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Of I think we're okay, don't you think Oh wait,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: well her dad was I even an attic? Do you
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: think we should go back?
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we're okay. Yeah, I
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: think we're okay.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Did you find yourself annoyed because this, you know, this episode,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I started to get real annoyed with Lacy jumping in
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: for questions between Michelle and Jesse.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, she's getting a little too comfortable at the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: end of that couch. That butter is softening a little
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: too fast. Let's not. I know you're eager. I know
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: you're eager. I know you've been waiting for this. But no,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: but it's nothing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: We don't need your weigh in on everything and how
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: you perceive and what you like. This is not about you.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Let them talk. I would Michelle, I don't know. I'm
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I would not be as chill as Michelle is up there.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I really wouldn't. I wouldn't.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know how she's doing it. I never would be.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: And I think she just is happy to be out
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: of that situation and is really truly focusing on having
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: her right life.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: You're so right. She's just thrilled to be out of there,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: and she's like, let this stick of butter and this
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: no sock Nelly, just do whatever they're going to do.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, she must.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: That has to be what kids gets her through. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: do want to mention two other things. When Danny and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Nia we're talking about, like his drinking and stuff like that,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: one of the things stood out to me. He said,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I'm working with someone and he said, you know, like
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: when I'm in a heightened state like that, and I'm like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: you mean blackout drunk, You're not even able to say
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the word. And I noticed that Nia used that word
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: when she was responding to Brittany saying that she that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: they're awful people. She's like, well, when I'm heightened like that,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you guys are terminology pretty loosely, Like
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it's a lot more than that that you're using.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of We did a lot
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: of prep work with these the word heightened before we
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: on our drive down. Yeah, we started.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Danny's like, I'm not heightened much. I'd like to
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: be heightened a little more.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: On couch.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I get heightened because I'm not heightened.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get heightened because I'm low. I did like
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: enjoy when Andy asked him if he was drunk at
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: that last party and when the Janet threw the cup
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: at him, he'said, yeah, it's pretty tossed, you know or whatever.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: He said. I'm like, thank you, Danny.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yes all we want. And that brings me to my
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: next point on my notes. We did not address Janet's
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: cup throwing, did we not?
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: We we didn't really, which you.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Know, can we not have done that?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: That was It's hard, Yeah, I mean.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: She should have been taken she should have been taken
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: to school at least walked around the block, right around
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the block, in the neighborhood something something.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm thinking back to Atlanta when Nini in
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the closet and the produced like, we're either allowed to
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: touch and throw or we're not allowed to touch and throw.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't like it at all. I don't
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: know how they chose to leave that alone. But I
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: think that's bullshit.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I do too. I agree with you one hundred percent.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: It's not it wasn't just liquid. It was liquid and cup.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Mm right, it was liquid and cup liquid and solo.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Cup, solo cup. I mean, if it was glass, I'm
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: thinking of Ramona throwing the cup at Chris Blonde Kristen
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: in the water she got her lip. You know, listen,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: we're either able to throughow or we're not right.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, Well, they had to have talked
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: about it, and if they edited it out, I think
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: that's boloney. I watched the Peacock version. It wasn't in there.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, yeah, I know it's weird.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: It is weird.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I don't like it either. I think she really, as
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Sonia said, lost the run of herself, and it should
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: have been addressed.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I did appreciate that Schwartz did come to Nia's defense
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: when Lala said those things that we just talked about
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: a minute ago. He was like, oh no, did you
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: guys just say that? Ye know, So I was like, okay,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: all right, Schwartz, good good job, good job, good job.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Sure now I think we're good. I think we can
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: move on. And I think The Valley had a great
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: season and I look forward to for next. I mean,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: this is a great show.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I'd just like to lastly say I thought Melissa and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Jasmine looked so pretty together at the end, and I
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: just I was just so happy for her and Jasmine
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: saying she couldn't take her out. She didn't look at
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: anyone else, just so cute, like just so nice. You know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: you're such a nice ending. So I also just want
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to say, lastly, Jesse, I just want to take this
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: to you, Amy Phillips, Amy Rachel Penelope Phillips when.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: It's not my name, but just so just so everybody
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: knows you. But I like it I like it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah for now Jesse's delivery of a joke at the end,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: he tried to do a joke with the toast, and
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's so serial killer, you know, the way
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: there's something so off putting when he tries to land
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: a funny and I I just.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: To say, like to tell somebody like, you can't deliver
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a joke? Oh really, how's it coming off with too stiff?
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Like a serial killer?
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, right, specific Yeah, I can't deny that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I agree, I think, and he is very awkward and
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: he's not the funny guy that he thinks he is.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Like it's, uh, he's not as good looky as he
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: thinks he is. He's not as rich as successful as
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: he thinks he is.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: He's not as rich single as he is. Uh, he's
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: gonna marry Lacy as much as he.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Thinks he is, he thinks he is. He's not fixing
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: him Mary Lazy as much as he thinks he is. No,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: it's like, I think he's gotten away with a lot,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: and I think his looks, he's losing his looks. And
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I think that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: That's where the rubber meets the road.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: That's where the rubber meets the road because of a
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: lot of the city of angels. Here, you can you can,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: you know, do your dance for a little while on fumes.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Nobody knows your family, nobody knows where you came from.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: You can move in.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Shape, you can skate right on through.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. I think he's got a good
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: year and a half left before it gets real strain.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Because it's not even that it's like about the looks
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: that are gonna turn but but it's like whole personality
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: is gonna get weird, and like you can age and
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you can look however you look, and people will start
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: somewhere somewhat accept you here in La which is such
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: a young city. But if you are just not firing
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: on all cylinders in terms of the things you say,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: no one wants you around, or the people who do
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: want you around are the druggies and the thieves and
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the ba guys.
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're built on fumes.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Which he is, this is getting dark.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: No, but the fumes, you're built on fumes and your
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: looks buoyed you up and moved you around. Okay, it
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't and you're not going to transition into Debonair because
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: you need the money for that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Sorry, whoa.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: You did?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Because yes, honey, he don't care because he's not Debonair.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, come on, Countess Lane, let's get
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a song.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: You can't be with Debonair if you don't have some
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: in your pocket, Darling Debonair. You don't have money, so
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: you don't care. Yeah, no, it ain't for sure what
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well lady.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Because she doesn't want to. She doesn't want to have
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the energy of going and looking for somebody else. Now
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: she's got this guy, she can be on a show.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: She's gonna she's getting kind of what she wants there,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: fame and such and so. Ken should she just invest
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: in him to get him up to the Debonair status
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: she's gonna fold impossible.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think. I do think she has her wits
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: about her financially. Based on what she said this this,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I don't think you say that if you don't mean
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: it to some extent. I think that she does mean it.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: I did forget it.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: You read it, get it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Exactly she said, and I she said it, and I
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: think she means it. I think she does have a
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: sense of him. I don't think she puts all her
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: chips on Jesse Lally.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, Well, see, well, I think she's gonna use
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: him to climb to the next step. So when she's
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: done with him, who knows where she'll land.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: You could tell me Lacey was twenty three forty seven
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: sixty five. I can't get a handle on this girl
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: for anything, in terms of I can't. I can't even
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I can't even look straight at her. And we've talked
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: about this and I don't even know it's It sounds
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: so horrible, but it's not a dig. It's just a
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm looking at, and I can't
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: get a handle on the overall situation.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I think she's very attractive. This has nothing to do
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: with her looks at all. But like about that elves
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you know, you know in Lord of the Rings are they?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: But are they called elves?
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Like you're looking at the This is so not my
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Oh you're not can't wait? Pipe Emilie driesis in because
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: they feel.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: She might it really hit a peg for a Lord
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: of the Rings stand. I don't know why I thought
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you don't like fantasy. Okay, well, anyway, yeah, so she
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of Kate Blanchett's character in Lord
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: of the Rings. She's like this Elfish goddess, you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and you can't tell what age an elf is unless
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: it's like an elf with a beard, like a gray beard,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So that's how I sort
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: of see it as well. It's kind of like I
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. And there are just some
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: people who are born like that because like when they're
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: five years old, they look like they're, you know, forty two,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and they just have that look. And I mean, which
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: is super cute, but that kind of follows you I
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: think through life.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's a blessing.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: It's a blessing and maybe a curse. I don't know.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I guess it depends on which you look at it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: It's like I don't see any almost the way I
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: experience her as. I don't see any definitive lines or
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: angles I see. It's everything is a blurred effect.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there is this thing called face blindness. Okay,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: do you have that or no? Like I'm actually not
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: being sarcastic, Okay, now, so you can recognize specific.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: I may have it for her I have very very
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: specific base blindness. You look at one member plated out
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: only she's fixlated for me. Yeah, she her edges. It's
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: like the blurring lip gloss that's out right now, you know,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: it's everything's just blurred, blur.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: It didn't help to have like the yellow hair into
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the yellow dress.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: From that sirrup bottom skin mono from top to bottom,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: just one. She couldn't break it up for me, so
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I could try to.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I saw them as a package deal, as both being
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: on the show, Hudson, you know, being a huge part
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: of her life, and now they're moving to New York together.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: We saw the whole thing we were. It was such
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: a huge part of the beginning of this show that
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now he's just completely gone. And
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: so that's why I'm having a hard time figuring out
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: where he stands on this show. So I guess he
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: never really was a permanent fixture on the show, regardless
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: if they were going to stay together or not. But
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: if they had stayed together, he would have been a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: permanent fixture on the show, I'm guess.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, but yeah, but he's not. I mean, it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: I think with these shows, you know, who your partner is,
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Like they come and go as as you are with
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: them or not with them for the most part.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Well, then I got to ask, why did she move
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: to New York with him in the first place. Why
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: didn't she just break up with him before they moved
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: to New York. She literally broke up with them, and
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the second the.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Problem with that, I have no problem with that because
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I think they were together for a long time and
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: you know, I think, based on what she's saying, he's
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: putting no effort in, which is interesting that it's the
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: same thing Charlie was saying. What I do you agree?
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: I think what she has been doing with this guy
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: is you know, he he. I think they have a
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: connection as friends, and I think they had whatever their
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: little young love was and whatever is wrong, whatever his
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: deal is. He's probably one of these rich, rich, rich
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: kids who is not motivated. Yeah, that is what I'm getting,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: And like she probably tried to pour into him for
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: a really long time and motivate him, and maybe she thought,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: but we'll do this together and that will make you activate.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I do understand now, Like it really, his existence on
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: this show was never going to be what I thought
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: it was. Going to be like, he's not in the
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: cast okay, So I just need to like let that go.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So when she's like, yeah, get him out of the chat,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Like when she's like Riley, get him out of the chat,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I get it. He's not a cast member. He shouldn't
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: they broke up. He shouldn't be in that chat. He
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: shouldn't know that she's sharing carrots and Brussels sprouts with
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Liam for the dish at Friendsgiving. I get it so gone.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, has Hudson listen. It's like shy Shi is like,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: you know, a side more of a side character. But
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: I know about the shirts. He's made me laugh a
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: few times. He's pushed back on like that was a
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: great conversation. He pushed back on Brooks at BRAVOCN like,
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: do you remember one thing Hudson has said?
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Like, I know, but he was in Confessionals. That's the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: other thing. He was in Confessionals. That's why I'm having
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: a hard time transitioning into Okay, we're pushing him out.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Is that what we're doing? Okay? I just need to
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: get my head around.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: It, Like, oh, like I released remember really, I know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I don't remember one thing he said now, I.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Was in a lot of confessionals by himself with other people,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: and none of the other boyfriends were like, Omar wasn't
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: in a confessional.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: You know. I mean, for when I heard Omar say
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: how was bravocon?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, no, no, I know, my head
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: jerked around, like what is it?
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: What?
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: You know? That was the weirdest something sent chills through
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: my body and I felt dirty.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: It was weird. I did too. I was like, you
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: shouldn't even know what provocon is, Like, don't ever ask
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that question I got, And.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, Dad, sorry, great.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I know. It was wrong.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: It was wrong. It felt odd. I'm glad that you
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: felt the same way.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I didn't like it at all.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So we're we're but speaking of Bravocon. You know, we
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: came back from that. We know about how Arianna left
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: her first class seat and sat with Charlie. But now
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: we're thrinds giving and she's grateful for Charlie and Liam
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: is just sitting there like he's not piping up in
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: his confessionals about how weird this is yet, but it's
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: odd for him, certainly because you can see how much
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: she's flirting with him and how he's flirting with her.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And I can't wait because talk about who are you?
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: You know, my husband says he used to say that
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: to Janet for a season. He would yell from the TV,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: who are yeah? Who are ye? I guess that's like
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: a base, like some sort of soccer thing that like
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: they mock in England. They like if they don't they
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: don't know one of the soccer players, so they'll yell
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: who are you? And so you used to do that
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: to Janet? Who are yeah? He just yelling at the TV.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: And I'm going, who are yet? To Kendle, I'm going,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: who are yeah? Because Kendall is a you know, like
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: what is her goddamn quiet ass deal?
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you? And they're this episode they really tried to
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: put her up on a podium. You know, it's like, okay,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: let's take Kendall out to lunch and really try to
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: give her some hot tea and see what she does.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: And she's like, Wow, that's piping hot. I can't wait
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: to talk to Liam about that. What tea?
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Liam is coming in free? Right? He has no connections?
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Right? Is he connected to anyone on the cast?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: No?
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: No, So she's there as some sort of you know,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: connective tissue, connective tissue ghost to Liam and they're like,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: we are still yeah, we can't get this info to Liam,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: although Riley will try to do it and we'll do
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: it at the table and be super messy, but like
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: we I would love it if this connective tissue goes
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: could run back some intel.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see that scene. That's gonna
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: be a fire.
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, do we think she's in love with him? Because
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I think maybe, Well now.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: She seems pretty annoyed with him. He's a close talker.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: That's a deal breaker for me. I'm sorry, you can't
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: be a close talker. And just like so when that happened,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I did appreciate that when Liam was like, oh I
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: talked so close and I could already tell she's like
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: backing up for me, I'm like, oh, okay, she doesn't
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: have any feelings for him. We're good, okay, But who knows.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: It could be the long game and those are out
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: there and they do work.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: I don't even know. Like Brooks and Shy, I'm glad
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: they talked and they reset. But just like everybody that
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: friend's giving. I was like, I don't even know what
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: the problem was, and I'm glad that we're here. So
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: that's great.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I did think Shy does make me laugh so hard,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: just he's so rattled and rocked every scene and his confessional,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: so just sometime you got to raise back up on
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: someone and put them in their place and they like it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: And I liked that he sat him down, sat him back, yeah,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: and that we're good, Like I'm done.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: He can't keep doing this, Brooks.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: No, I do have shirts that are not made of
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: a terry cloth that falls apart, and I am going
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: to have to sit you back a little bit.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good for him, he actually yeah, yeah, I like
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: that he grew up a little bit in this episode.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: And in this episode, Candy and Todd's divorce hit the press,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: and Riley and Ariana talked about that, and you know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Riley's worried about her mom, like, you know, dealing with
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: the fans and stuff like that. And it's always so
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: cool to see them in a scene together knowing that
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: they're all og Atlanta housewives.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: I know, it's what we've been through. Gosh, you know,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: this is our work.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: I always love to see again. We got another finance
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: lesson from Rachel Roy telling Eva that like when she
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: charges something, uh, and she's over budget, that means that
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: it's more debt than it is over budget. And she's like, huh,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: You're just borrowing. Yeah, yeah, I haven't. Yeah, I haven't
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: paid for it yet. You have paid for you you
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: don't know on it?
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Arianna and Leam this whole episode, just like the
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: kissing and the kitchen and then at the party and
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: then waking up in the bed together. I was like,
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: oh my god, this is like, why do I feel
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: so uncomfortable watching this?
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: It's very intimate. I think it's weird.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: It's weird. I feel weird watching, isn't it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Because they're so young, Yeah, I think that's what it is.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And because she's a reality kid. And I'm like, does
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: she feel like she's got to like do this? And
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: he's an actor and I don't know. It really did
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: make me feel strange and I didn't like it. How
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: did you feel?
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: I I think I think he's pretty special, you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I really do. And I my thoughts were that this
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: is that this is like when they have the superhero
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: like the thing that happens to you, your origin story
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: where you either go bad or good. Yeah, I'm like,
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: this is gonna either he'll either handle this well and
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: just continue to like trust that he can have a
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: great relationship, or this will turn him against he'll be
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: a shitty boyfriend going forward. Because I just I feel
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: protective because I do think he really likes her, and
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: I think that I love how he's pursuing her. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: think it's what you always want. But what's not being
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: included for him is that she just got out of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: a very long relationship. Yeah, and he should have included
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: that in his approach, you know, because he's going so
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: full steam ahead, and it's she's really not ready and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: that's why she's pushing back with Charlie.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if at this point something happened between
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: the two of them, do you think so?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's certainly alluding to it.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: In a very weird way. I mean, what a weird way.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: He's a very strange guy.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: But he got we got that hot mic moment where
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah, you know, she's reluctant to have
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: anything on camera, all this stuff, So it sounds.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Felt very authentic that moment.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we shall.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I think they definitely kissed, you know, there's a no
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: doubt about that. And I tend to think it was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: more than that, but you.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Know, well, we'll see. We'll see what happens to these
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