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Natasha Carter Unfinished Business How To Get Your Book Out There · Inspiring Stories

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  Thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio. You ready welcome back everybody.
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  I'm want to welcome to the show. Natasha Carter. Natasha Carter is not
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  only the author of the book Unfinished Business, she is also a social media
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  guru, and we want to talk to her a bit about how she used
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  social media to push her book out there so that she gathered the right audience
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  and was able to sell a bunch of books. And she's as current working
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  on her second or maybe third novel. But this is from the from the
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  about the author section in Unfinished Business. Natasha knew she wanted to be a
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  writer since she first learned to read, but didn't go all in until twenty
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  nineteen. She started a blog and then broke into fiction when she accidentally began
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  to write a novel in twenty twenty. She has many works in progress so
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  expects several upcoming releases. In addition to the erotic romance genre, she writes
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  mystery, suspense, and science fiction. Natasha lives in the Midwest of the
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  United States with her family and two cats. She loves nature, astrology,
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  taro, and all things spiritual. I've been following Natasha for quite some time
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  and I've realized that along with everything else, she is a very positive person
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  and a very fun person to just kind of hang out in the social media
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  world with some of the some of the things that she actually shares. So
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  let's welcome Natasha to the show. One. Welcome to the show, Natasha.
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  It's great to see you again. And of course I've said several times
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  on Twitter how you are my favorite author and hate UM. At this point,
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  I actually feel like like you're my sister in positivity, you know,
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  because you always see such cool stuff, such positive stuff UM on Twitter,
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  and I had to respond with with that same kind of positivity, you know,
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  you just bring it out in people. So yeah, so yeah,
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  So how did you get started UM writing this? Because UM Unfinished Business is
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  the first book featuring Charissa Collins, and I had this feeling there's going to
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  be more of that character. Don't endear her or something another way. No,
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  I think that this is going to be a standalone and unless a lot
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  of people want a sequel. I have had a few people I wish that
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  I would write another one and continue on the journey of the two characters,
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  but I didn't intend. I feel like I don't have you finished it?
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  Yeah, okay, I don't. I don't intend on continuing their story.
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  I kind of want to believe it up to your imagination as to how it
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  goest. I mean, it's a half away ever afterwards. That a half
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  away ever for now, you know, kind of thing. But if it
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  gets a lot, if a lot of people want more, maybe I will
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  overrid a sequel. But right now I have a lot of other stuff in
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  the work, so it would be it would be a while before I get
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  to it. Yeah. Yeah. In in the about the author's section,
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  it talked about your life dream to be an author and a novelist. Right,
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  yes, so that was always the dream since I've learned how to read.
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  So how does it feel to actually know that so many people are actually
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  buying your books because we can get it through Amazon and a few other ways,
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  right, I'm really mostly just through Amazon, um, unless you unless
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  you ordered from me directly like you did, or in several other people,
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  a lot more people that I thought. Actually, I think I'd had like
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  one hundred and fifty people requests signed copies from me that I signed, and
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  sending mails. And that was a little overwhelming because I didn't I thought i'd
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  have like twenty five. Oh that's why you had to do a second order
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  of books. Yeah, I mean it was it was a long process.
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  Yeah yeah, and a lot of people were waiting for a while and I
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  was unfortunately that's the way when so yeah, so um, well, along
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  along with that, you have a you have a lot of support at home
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  also, um be could you talk about which is it? Uh? Four
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  and fourteen? Is it that doesn't rain daughters? I don't like to say
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  their names? No, no, no, no no no. The age
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  numbers are are are good enough. We don't need to We don't need need
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  to put put those kind of names. I okay. As as you've been
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  following me for a while too, have you ever seen a picture of my
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  kids? No? No, you probably know that I have two kids.
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  But no, right, you know when you put yourself out in certain ways
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  that there are others who, um, I don't want to get to go
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  into this too far, there are people who want to stalk and and why
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  put why put my my loved ones in in jeopardy because somebody decides to be
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  be uh a stalker? We have to keep yeah. So um but you
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  with that, you have quite uh, the audience on on social media.
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  Between Twitter, we also follow each other on Instagram and you have and you
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  have a following there also, um a little bit. It's not as big
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  as Twitter by any meaning, No, it's not as big as Twitter.
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  But but but how do you make that effective to to be able to sell
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  your books? Well, I mean as far as like building my following on
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  Twitter, it was kind of an accident at first. I hadn't hear what
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  I was doing, um, but nobody that I knew was following me.
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  So I was just saying whatever random stuff came into my head and it was
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  super like a filter list, and people liked that, and so then I
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  started to realize how what to say and like what to in. Then I
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  started doing like questions stop in stuck too, because people love to ask answer
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  questions about themselves, um, and then just following the people who were interacting
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  and growing that way. And I don't follow as many accounts now that I
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  used to, just because it, um it got overwhelming and hard to keep
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  up with. And um, I only have it so people can DM me
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  if I'm following them, So I try to limit that because I was getting
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  way too many messages and it was just too much. Yeah, so,
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  um, de leasn't you? You you do it? You're so you're doing
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  a good job of keeping like your art, your family and and all the
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  social media stuff and in some sort of a balance. Then yeah, I'm
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  trying to. I mean, there have been times where I spent way too
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  much time on there, and I'm trying to limit that now just because it
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  can be such a time suck and um, but I you know, once
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  I launched the book, I had to spend more time on there getting it
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  out there, pushing it out to people. And I also, you know,
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  manage other accounts on Twitter, so I can't really get away from it
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  that much because I'm trying to help other people go to Yeah. Yeah,
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  I was going to eventually lead to that when you brought it up, because
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  you are a social media guru and you have client accounts, right yeah yeah,
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  So, um, how do you what what type of strategies do you
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  actually used to make an account grow? Because then now you did the first
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  one of my accident, you said, but but now you have a formula
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  to it, don't you. I mean it's pretty strategic in a way.
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  I mean, I guess I didn't really realize that it was. But like
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  I said, I do a lot of questions. I retweet those tweets from
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  my account, and then I from their accounts. I follow all the people
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  who interact like comment and make sure that I engage with the comments, because
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  that anytime you reply to a comment on one of your tweets, it bumps
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  that tweet back up to the top of the feet and allows it to be
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  seen by more people. So you have to make the logarithm work for you
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  in that way. Okay, So engage. Engagement is one of the biggest
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  ways to grow because if people comment on them. If you get a bunch
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  of comments and you don't interact with any of them, it can be kind
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  of rude or cold or stand offish, and people will be like, oh,
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  they didn't even reply to me. But I mean, that can be
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  hard when you get hundreds, but I try to at least like, um,
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  no, I get that my my Twitter accounts aren't but I have,
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  but I have three accounts to um that some I managed myself, and then
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  there's another person that actually helps me out with with the third one. Um,
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  but I mean, no single one really adds up to your your one
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  for Natasha Carter. But it's it becomes if it becomes work. When when
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  when the when you're trying to use it as a driving force to get people
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  to listen more right, Yeah, so, um, when you were doing
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  it, when when you're actually pushing your book out there, Um, what
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  was one of the one of the strategies that you use to actually get people
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  to realize that you had the book and that you were looking for an audience
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  to actually listen to that book or watch read that book. I guess I
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  just try to promote it. I just try to promote like what kind of
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  book it is, because a lot of people, a lot of people do
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  like that genre and they want to read a spicy romance novel. But I
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  also just try to appeal to my audience because there's a lot of people who
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  are going to read it even though it's not their genre, just because they're
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  like me. And that's I think one of the most important pieces of marketing
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  that sometimes people miss is like just be yourself, be genuine, because the
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  people who are going to like your work are the people who like you as
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  a person. Right, you know that that doesn't that make sense. So
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  you put a little slice of Natasha in every anything did you do? Yes,
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  I don't know how not to. I mean I don't know how to
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  you. I don't know how to hold back from being myself. I guess
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  it's just this is like that you don't know how. I don't know how.
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  I don't know how to be anything else. Well, and that's true.
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  It's like I'm sitting here. I remember the first time I talk to
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  you, and it's like, and we kind of giggle through the conversation the
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  first time I talk to you, because um, and we're doing it again.
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  Because it's just who you are, right, You're a happy person.
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  I am for the most part. It's not like I don't have things that
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  get me down are upset me. But for the most part, I just
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  try to be positive and optimistic because life you just keep going mm hmm.
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  So um because you yeah, I mean you wrote, you wrote the book
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  and in the novel and then you have another work in progress. It's like
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  I have like nine I do see I do see the hashtag w I P
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  and I was like work in progress. Get it. It's like I know,
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  I have like I like nine started. I'm all over the place.
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  I'm kind of ADHD, so I'm trying to rain this world in a little
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  bit. But I do have a finished draft that I'm working on editing and
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  revising, so I'm hoping to have that published by September is my goal.
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  I'm trying to keep myself on task with like a deadline, because otherwise it's
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  just fall through the cracks. But so I'm trying to, like, I'm
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  really enjoying my new project and i just want to keep working on it.
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  But I'm trying to like have some self control and be like, Okay,
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  you can write for one hour on your new product if you edit for one
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  hour on your old project. Oh well that makes sense. Yeah. Um,
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  I wish I had that discipline. And you call yourself ADHD because I
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  don't think I had to. I think I'm more ADHD than you are because
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  I don't have that kind of discipline. Oh god. Um. I totally
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  on the artistic end, I get the having several projects on the run and
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  trying to try and it's like, oh wait, what this one's actually going
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  to do something? Then to feed back money back into the system, I
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  better focus on that one a little more. A little closer, you know.
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  So so how do you how do you prioritize or make sure that one
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  thing gets pushed up over another. Well, I really tend to go with
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  the flow. It's like what I'm is calling to me at the time we
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  wants to be written, because sometimes I feel like projects need time to breathe.
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  So Hidden Obsession is the one I'm going to be publishing next. And
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  I wrote it almost two years ago as when I started on it, and
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  so it's just been waiting. I don't remember when I finished the first draft,
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  but it's been waiting and just kind of like sitting there. I work
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  on other things, and now I'm like, Okay, now it's time to
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  polish it and get it ready because it's the closest one to being done.
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  So I need to get it all there because I need to continue to build
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  off my momentum I growing here with my first book. I know a lot
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  of people are ready for the next one. There's some authors that they do
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  the what is it winter fall or spring? Yeah, spring and then summer
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  that yeah, something like that. They actually do, so they actually space
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  for books like six months apart. Is that something you're trying to do for
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  yourself or yeah, I think that's what I'm going to shoot for, is
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  trying to get so the next one I'm doing is actually going to be a
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  series. So I'm hoping to get the first book out in like September,
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  and then the second one maybe six months after that, and then I'm not
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  sure where it's going to go after that or if it's just going to be
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  the two. We'll have to see. And then the other one that I'm
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  working on right now is really the one I want to get out there soon
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  too, So I really would like to have them all out within the next
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  year and a half. I see, Um I did notice that. Okay,
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  So while I was reading Unfinished Business, Um, and there's because because
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  that marketing brain of my own goes goes, goes wiggling along, right,
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  and I was like, Okay, there wasn't a lot of sponsorship notes in
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  there, like like different products kept popping up or something like that. Um,
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  that's in this one. But I know on Twitter that you, uh,
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  you have built a relationship with a couple of companies. Um, well
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  I know, I know know that, and I'm actually gonna bring up your
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  friends right now. Uh. The No Shit Show another podcast out there,
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  so um, and you appear here on there quite frequently, and they also
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  I know you guys bounced back and forth a lot. Um. I've actually
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  never been on the podcast. We have planned it and it fell through,
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  and I think we're still going to do that, but it hasn't happened yet.
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  Okay, because um, I can manage that. I manage that account.
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  I knew you, I knew you had a relationship with them, and
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  that's what the question is. How do you how do you build those get
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  build the right relationships with businesses so that they help you get your projects out
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  there and um and help you and actually help like your your your your social
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  media marketing business and all that kind of stuff. Well, yet, like
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  I said, it all it comes down to relationship building and engagement and um
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  just kind of putting yourself out there. So I'm doing some a couple of
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  other different things as well that I haven't really come to fruition yet, but
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  we'll see. So UM, when I've first started writing, I started with
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  a company called Elephant Journal, and I was writing strictly like nonfiction, like
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  personal essay type stuff blogging and they really helped me, who as a writer
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  and the Soul, and I haven't written on there for a while, and
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  I reached out to Willin, who's the person who started Elephant Journal, and
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  was like, hey, I wrote this book and I just wanted to let
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  you know and like, thank you for encouraging me on this journey, because
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  I don't I wouldn't. There's no way I would have gotten here if it
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  weren't for you guys, and like getting my start with Elephant And he was
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  like, hey, why don't you promote it on Elephant and we will share
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  it up to all of our people. And so those kind of connections that
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  you make, you revisit them as you're trying to because people are going to
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  be supportive of you if you're supportive of them, right. So, I
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  mean it's like every um, every other relationship that you have in life,
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  you just genuinely try to do do the right thing for for other people,
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  right right, Right, So in has um so that that probably has also
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  helped you with with with your social media, following the fact that you keep
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  building relationships rather than just trying to string them along with a with with a
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  product, right Yeah, Yeah, I mean I don't I haven't had any
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  other products. So I don't I don't know, but it's kind of a
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  person it's kind of a common of advice to people though, right, build
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  relationships rather than just try to you know. Yeah, I mean I see
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  a lot of people doing it, bron I guess where they're just trying to
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  throw their book out there and and just not really trying to interact or engage
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  with other people. And it's like, why would you just why would anyone
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  just buy that book? Why? Why? Why did they care? You
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  have to make them care, right, right, And obviously you do a
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  good job of making people care. Some things, sometimes too much. Um
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  well, there were there was um because there's been a lot lot of a
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  lot of social like social issues, have social media issues, but social issues
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  that they've happened, and you've commented on those and uh and you didn't like
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  irritate a new body. You actually work people up, so I hope.
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  So, I mean, I try to be very understanding and accepting of all
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  viewpoints and where they come from. He has often people have this that people
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  really hold tight to their beliefs and sometimes don't realize that those beliefs can be
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  wrong, and especially if you've been taught to believe something your entire life,
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  and so I try to be very open minded and just like being like,
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  hey, like I respect everybody's belief systems or political views. I understand that
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  everyone comes from a different path. And so if we can just get everybody
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  to be on that same page and have that same level of acceptance and respect
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  and kind of like sign our middle ground, because that's where we're off right
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  now, like as a whole, Like we're so divided on everything and we
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  just want to like throw so much anger and hate at anybody that's ins diffinitely
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  in the radio, and like we really need to understand that fundamentally, we
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  are just all the same. We're all just human, and we're all just
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  trying to make the decisions that we make for the best of to the best
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  of our abilities, and we need a out our compassion for each other.
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  Right. I agree with that, um how because I noticed some things in
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  Unfinished Business about there's there's um the controversial polyamorous relationship thing versus the traditional and
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  you make them all come together or and and and work there that we it's
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  like the message is we should be accepting of other viewpoints. It doesn't it
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  doesn't mean we have to have to suck it in and make it our viewpoint.
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  It just means that we have respect it, right right Like, Um,
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  I mean I don't know that that would work for everyone, or I
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  mean personally, I don't think it would work for me. But I just
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  was intrigued by the subject and thought, Okay, let's let's use this.
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  This would be fun to learn about and right about. But um, I
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  know that there are people that it doesn't work for and that they are and
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  then there are other people who choose monogamy and that's fine for them, and
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  there are other people who are in anogamist relationships that probably shouldn't be. So
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  I mean, I just think that we need to be more open minded and
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  accepting of what works for other people. Just because it doesn't work for us
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  doesn't mean that it's not. Okay. Yeah, So it seems you you
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  put put all that compassion in and and love for for for other people in
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  that respect, all that all those things that you put that into everything you
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  do. Yeah. Yeah, I because that's just who I am as a
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  person, right, And some things that it bites me lass with that because
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  I have a lot of empathy and I have a big heart, and I
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  I try so hard on I mean, I have a degree in psychology.
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  I wanted to be a psychologist. At one point in my life. I
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  wanted to help people, and that you know, that changed I decided to
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  go in a different direction. But um, I always try to understand why
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  people do the things they do, and sometimes I think I understand more than
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  they even do. But it's it's so hard to try to make other people
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  understand Okay, well this is why they did that, or this is why
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  you did this, and like it's not even when it's like sometimes really mean
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  things people do and it comes from with pain and you try to understand that.
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  And but there are some things that are just too much. M Yeah,
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  there are things that they just become Okay, that's a bit much,
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  you know, or they cross the line or something, right. Yeah,
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  Um, boundaries are important, they yeah, And I didn't used to have
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  a lot of boundaries, and I've had to really learn how to have some
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  healthy mines, especially over the past couple of years, and learn like I
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  don't have to respond everybody. I don't have to like it's okay if I
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  upset someone because whatever, Like I have to take care of me first.
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  M right, I get that part, you know, um, the lesson
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  lesson in life, Uh learn love to learn me first. Yeah. I
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  think we there was an infra one of those infrogram think pictures things that we
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  were sharing around with with with that on their one time uh um. But
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  going forward, going going back to to you as a social media guru,
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  um, what um what does some what does someone that process don't like to
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  actually discover what somebody's messages and how you should be getting them out there into
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  into the social media world to the day. So did you build an audience
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  for them? I mean it really just depends on like what they're trying to
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  promote and who they are. And I usually have a conversation with them at
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  first, like okay, so what are your goals, what are your hobbies,
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  what are you into? And just try to get a framework of what
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  kind of makes them tick so that when I do tweet for them, it's
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  genuine that makes sense. So you got to get to know the person a
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  little bit first, back to that relationship building thing, right, Yeah.
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  So and well let's let's go into this because because you um and I said,
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  it's a few times on Twitter that that you are a beautiful person and
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  thank you um that you're trying to make a You're trying to trying to do
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  the work to to make a beautiful world for people, right I'm trying?
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  Or what is someone that look like for you? Like, what like if
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  you if you were building this this beautiful world, what would what would some
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  of that look like for you? Well, the world we live in is
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  just so lost and it seems to just be getting worse, and I don't
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  know how to fix it. I don't have the answers I wish I did.
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  I can only try to be The only control or anything that I have
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  is over myself. And so half of the time my tweets that people consider
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  like motivational or whatever, are like me talking to myself and trying to rid
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  myself up and then just putting it out there and anyone else needed to hear
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  it too, because life is hard, especially right now, like over the
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  past few years after the pandemic and everything else, and the political divide and
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  like everything that's going on in that economy. Everyone is struggling. Everyone is
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  struggling. There's nobody who's not having a tough time with something in their life,
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  and that's where we come back to that compassion and like being kinder to
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  ourselves and each other because people are going through stuff and you're not going to
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  know what it is, and like and also trying to, like, I
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  don't know, not get upset over My mom was really good at this.
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  I struggle with it sometimes, but she always tried to put herself in other
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  people's shoes. And so even if I was like somebody was being rude to
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  me and I was like, they're just there's so mean, they're so awfulers
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  would rue to me and she was just like, you know, Natasha,
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  like you need to think about what they could be going through. They could
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  be going through something and they're just projecting and you need to not take it
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  personally and so, which can be really hard to do in the moment,
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  but um and try not to be reactive because sometimes that's all people want from
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  you, like the Puttera trolls and whoever else. What they want is your
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  attention. They want your reaction. So if you give them that, they're
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  winning, and so you have to kind of just hold it in. Upset,
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  I just I guess I don't I don't know what the world could look
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  like if we could all just be better to each other, kind of softer,
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  more loving, it wouldn't that be great? Yeah? That utopia we
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  all like I had keep you going with it? Utopia? To describe it
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  more, you're rolling too something here? How I do it better? And
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  just write it? After years? Your your writer net not really a speaker,
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  right, I admittively I'm a much better writer than I am speaker.
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  But yeah, it's hard to describe. But we just need more empathy,
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  more compassion, more understanding, more open mindedness of like just because something just
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  because I wouldn't do something or I don't think something is for me, doesn't
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  mean that it doesn't isn't okay for somebody else to do, Like for example,
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  like gosh our whole lives. I feel like there was this big stigma
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  around being gay and like, um, people being upset about it and people
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  not wanting people who are gay to get married, and it's like, I
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  don't I've never understood, like why that bothers anyone? Why does that bother
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  you? There, it's not affecting you in any way, you know,
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  I've never understood that somebody who's you know, my brother is gay and I
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  absolutely love him so much. And it's always just been so hard for me
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  to have the world be the way it was and it's getting it was getting
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  better, and now it seems to be going backwards. And I don't I
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  don't know why. I don't know why that's happening. But like, love
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  is love, and we should just celebrate that love no where who it's for.
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  And like two women getting married affects me zero, affects my life zero,
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  So why don't they get to be happy and they enjoy our lives?
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  Right? It's just yeah, I agree with that. Um and um,
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  you you've peeked in it peeked into my world a little bit. And uh
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  see I'm sitting here with I've been criticized for for my pink shirts. I
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  got a whole bunch of these. It's like, and I guess, I
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  guess see see. I also try to help people when they're building an audience,
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  right, that you're building the audience in a way that they have a
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  happy existence in business and in life, right, you know what I mean?
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  So there was something that was a really big and I'm gonna gonna throw
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  this out there, something that was a really big Um, big thing,
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  not only politically but business wise for me that I would have got like a
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  series of documentaries and stuff out of it. Right, And they criticize my
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  pink shirt and they criticize my shoes. I was like, well, I
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  guess maybe you don't really want me to work with you if you can't accept
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  it's it's just a piece of cloth, right, yeah, And it's just
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  something to walk around in with your feet in so they don't get tore up
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  on the concrete. Right. It's like, if you can't be accepting those
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  sort of things, then do you when you when you have wanted to work
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  with them anyway, because they wanted to change you. They wanted to put
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  you in the box of like you need to be like this, and that's
• 36:57
  now who you are and not what you should want. And we're trying so
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  hard to get out of that box. I mean, I'm so outside of
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  the box you can't even put me in more. I actually had that happen,
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  and actually I took this like um personality assessment for a job interview,
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  and they were that's what they said. They were like, well, this
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  shows that you you're such an out of the box thinker that it's hard to
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  put you in the box. And this position is very in the box,
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  and I think it would be very stifling for you. And I was like,
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  well, I appreciate that honesty, and you're right, it would be
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  because I can't. I can't be in a narrow minded field or anything like
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  that. It's just not me cool. So you it's somewhere or another you
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  have, you have a screening process that like, Okay, they're going to
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  be a little too constricting on who I am as a person if I work
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  with them, so we'll put them aside. But this person over here,
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  they're kind of open minded and there they like the fact that I'm out of
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  the box. And well, yeah, I mean I haven't had I don't
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  really like do a lot of guess most of my clans come to me.
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  M most of them have found me and approached me. I actually never planned
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  I'm managing anybody's social media accounts. Somebody just asked me if I would manage
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  theirs, and they kind of went from there, um after like seeing how
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  mine had gone. And so if they approached me, the are you like
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  me? There? You know who I am and that I'm I'm very out
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  there at times, so they you know, like I'm I swear. I
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  mean, you know, like I'm not you swear. And you know,
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  like when you're in an auction premilial role, like you want to work with
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  the clients that you're gonna fit with, you don't want to it's not gonna
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  be fun to do work for people that that you just don't mesh while I
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  was yeah, you know, yeah, I get that, and we try
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  we try to help people find that that right audience fit and refer to those
• 39:28
  people back out again that hey, you're not gonna fit in with me,
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  but try this guy. He's cool. Yeah, you know, Um,
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  there's some boundaries around that also, but yeah, I do have one last
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  question that and then then we'll get to two best ways to find your book
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  and and or work with you as a social media guru. Um, because
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  you have to two little girls? Well do you have two little girls?
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  Right? Yeah? Um, I think I got the got their age numbers
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  wrong in the first time round. But that's okay. Um, what do
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  you what do you want them to see out of life or get out of
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  life? You want them to I mean, one of the main things that
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  I'm trying to teach them is that they can be whoever they want to be,
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  and they're in different ways that I'm doing that. So the first thing,
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  like we always and we always tell children to go off to their dreams,
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  right, I remember hearing that, But then it seems like people get
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  really upset as it's an adult when you actually do because when they see that
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  way, it seems like, well, I'm doing what I always wanted to
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  do. Why is every he hate it? Like I'm finally doing it and
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  I'm not letting Matt stop me because there's been a lot of obstacles in this
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  path for me and I'm shown. So I'm hoping that I'm living by example
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  by showing them my determination and my drive to keep going after my dream regardless
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  of anything. So I'm hoping to show them that so that they realized they
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  really can do whatever they want. Because if my mom did it, I
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  can do it too, is what I is one thing I hope to show
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  them, and I also hope to show them that they can believe what they
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  choose to believe. So my mom did this growing up. She you know,
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  we went to church, we went to different churches, and she told
• 41:45
  me, like, I want you to choose what you believe. I don't
• 41:49
  want to force anything. I don't want to force a religion down on you,
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  and I want you to decide for yourself. And in the same way
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  with my girls, like like, okay, well this is Christianity and this
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  is Buddhism, and this is what I believe, and you get to choose,
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  you get to decide, you can believe nothing. I don't care.
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  I just want you to make that choice for yourself. And want I just
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  want them to be who they are and I want them to find who they
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  are, and I want them to do that. You know now if you
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  do not when they're forty, because it seems like a lot of people just
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  grow up and they're told, Okay, this is what you have to believe,
• 42:30
  this is what you have to do, this is who you are because
• 42:31
  this is who I say you are, and then they have like a midlife
• 42:37
  crisis or breakdown because that's not who they're and not who they want to be.
• 42:43
  And then they have to like start all over. And it's like I
• 42:45
  want you to find that on purpose, Like now, wow, sorry,
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  that's my whole hell no, no, that was it was very heartwarming.
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  Don't say sorry. For that one. That that was. It was very
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  heartwarming, very warm, very very well said. Um. Anyway, best
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  ways to get a hold of you and find your book? So, um,
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  right now, my book is only on Amazon. Um it is in
• 43:24
  ebook, paperback, and hunt pover format. Right now it is on Kindle
• 43:30
  Unlimited, so it can be read ffully by Kindle Unlimited subscribers. And if
• 43:38
  you want an autograph copy, you just have to message me, get a
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  hold of me either on Twitter, Instagram or TikTok or whatever, and then
• 43:47
  we'll go from there and the plan that out. But that's it for me.
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  All. I may think about branching out to other rear tailers, but
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  I haven't made any moves in that direction yet. Okay, cool, So
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  it was fun having you on the show. Yeah, process, I'm sorry.
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  I know my life has just been kind of chaotic lately. So oh
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  ah good you're you're'd be an up and coming famous author fingers cross. All
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  right, okay, thank you everybody for listening. UM, I do go
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  find Natasha's book. It's called Unfinished Business, and like she said, you
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  can find it on Amazon. Just type in unfinished Business in Amazon that search
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  search bar you might want to put in many people because the is true.
• 44:52
  There are other titles, the other books, same titles. So Natasha Carter,
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