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Ranking/Tasing Friends & NFL Combine Recap with Ryan Roberts · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by Draft Kings. The crown
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  Speaker 1: is yours. We are an Action Network podcast. I'm Brandon Kravitz,
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  Speaker 1: your host, back at it with half the crew. The
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  Speaker 1: first lady of the pod, Kendra Middleton, is with me
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  Speaker 1: before she hops on a jet and heads elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: The Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stuckey is buried in
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  Speaker 1: ken palm ratings right now. We'll chat with him on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday's pod. We're talking NFL Combine today with our special guest,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Roberts, NFL draft analyst from A to Z Sports. Kendra,
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  Speaker 1: you are headed out of the country here soon. What's
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  Speaker 1: the occasion? What takes you away from us?
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  Speaker 3: I am so excited.
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  Speaker 4: I have been telling you guys that this is one
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  Speaker 4: of my last brain power tasks before I can paint
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  Speaker 4: my nails, lather myself in self tan, and get ready.
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  Speaker 3: To get on a plane. I'm actually going to Portugal.
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  Speaker 4: It is my birthday on Sunday, so I'm going out
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  Speaker 4: of the country, going to be drinking some wine, probably
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  Speaker 4: spending too much money, and eating a lot of good food.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a reason why Portugal was chosen. I know
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  Speaker 1: that you love to jet set around the world. You're
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  Speaker 1: very well traveled. Is this a place that you've been
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  Speaker 1: before or is this a new experience.
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  Speaker 3: I have not been to Portugal.
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  Speaker 4: I am in my fourth third fourth year of doing
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  Speaker 4: five brand new countries to me every single year for
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  Speaker 4: ten years.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to do fifty countries in ten years.
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  Speaker 4: So I haven't done Portugal, and I have a huge
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  Speaker 4: hack for you. I have a couple of hacks for
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  Speaker 4: you guys travel wise. One to make the most out
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  Speaker 4: of your PTO. If you live on the East Coast,
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  Speaker 4: leave on a Wednesday night. Most like red eye flights
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  Speaker 4: over to Europe leave around eight nine pm. You land
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  Speaker 4: at eight or nine in the morning on Thursday. You
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  Speaker 4: only have to take off Thursday Friday. And if you
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  Speaker 4: make it a long weekend on a Monday, you don't
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  Speaker 4: even have to take off Monday. You get five days
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  Speaker 4: for the cost of two or three of PTO and
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  Speaker 4: it's a direct flight for me from here.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 4: And go somewhere with the Michelin Guide because you can
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  Speaker 4: pre book and you don't have to spend a ton
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  Speaker 4: of money to eat good foods. So Portugal has direct
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  Speaker 4: flight six hours, easy enough to hop over there for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of days. Michelin Guide, lots of wine and
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  Speaker 4: weather that is not twenty five degrees.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hack.
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  Speaker 1: We're always looking for good ideas and great value on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, and that definitely delivers on all.
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  Speaker 3: Of the round trip direct that's great.
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  Speaker 1: I have not left the country in a while. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think i've left the country. In fact, I know
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  Speaker 1: that I have not left the country since my wife
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  Speaker 1: and I went on our honeymoon in Jamaica. And this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the things I know that you're somewhat
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  Speaker 1: anti having children. You're not anti children, but anti having
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  Speaker 1: your own.
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  Speaker 3: I want to I don't want to give birth, But.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you want to adopt like a teenager or someone
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  Speaker 1: that's already.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to be like fifty and adopt a
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  Speaker 4: couple of teenagers.
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  Speaker 1: So this this will put because because you love to
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  Speaker 1: travel so much, this will push you away from that.
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  Speaker 2: I used to love to travel as well.
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  Speaker 1: It it is so difficult, somewhere between difficult and impossible
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  Speaker 1: to do that with a young kid, So it has
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  Speaker 1: completely slowed travel, especially the idea of leaving the country
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  Speaker 1: right now because I wouldn't bring him with me, would
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  Speaker 1: give me hives.
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  Speaker 3: Just get Globe lunch free. It solves all your issues.
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  Speaker 1: Plus with everything going on, I'm afraid I won't be
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  Speaker 1: allowed back in, So you know I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Leave me in Portugal, bitch, leave me there.
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  Speaker 1: See that's uh, I can't. I can't risk that. But
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  Speaker 1: call me xenophobic or whatever. I'm not leaving the country anytime,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not leaving all right, Kenja?
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  Speaker 2: What's on your mind today?
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  Speaker 5: Could you be.
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  Speaker 3: Okay? So no stucky?
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  Speaker 4: So we're gonna go rapid fire. I have three questions.
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  Speaker 4: Recently I wound up on the side of internet where
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  Speaker 4: boyfriends are letting their girlfriends tase them just to know
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  Speaker 4: what it's like.
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  Speaker 3: I have accidentally tased myself before.
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  Speaker 4: I actually have a video of it, if anyone has
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  Speaker 4: any interest in seeing it.
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  Speaker 3: But would you let your wife tase you for the
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  Speaker 3: one time just to know?
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  Speaker 1: I think it would have to be a special occasion,
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  Speaker 1: like our anniversaries coming up?
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  Speaker 4: Gets our anniversary, you can do that one time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, anniversary is coming up on the eleventh. And if
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  Speaker 1: this is what you wanted, I would I would succumb
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  Speaker 1: to that, but probably not. You got to draw the
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  Speaker 1: line somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: But if I show you it's not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not that curious to know what it
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  Speaker 1: feels like. I've seen it on cops. It looks pretty
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  Speaker 1: painful when crackheads are getting tasers, though, So what what's
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  Speaker 1: the difference?
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  Speaker 2: What are we looking at here?
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  Speaker 3: I guess stun gun tase?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I know that, I know that
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  Speaker 1: my wife could convince me to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I have a taser. I'll bring it when we all
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  Speaker 3: meet up.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I.
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  Speaker 1: Would say my answer is maybe sixty sixty five percent
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  Speaker 1: to the No. I wouldn't do that unless she asked
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  Speaker 1: nicely on it on an occasion.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Question now, Christmas morning, let me tase you.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's hey, if that would be a good gift
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  Speaker 4: actually for a girl.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Question two? Fuck Mary kill rain? Wind Snow all right,
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  Speaker 4: I'm killing wind.
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  Speaker 1: Wind is so obnoxious and it makes the cold exponentially worse.
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  Speaker 1: All of my worst experiences sitting at sporting events and
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  Speaker 1: things like that are due to the wind, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: any sort of other we.
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  Speaker 2: It's smacks in the face. There's nothing you can do
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: They get for a rain. If you're that bothered, get
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  Speaker 1: a fucking umbrella. There's no umbrella for wind. You know, windbreakers,
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  Speaker 1: total scam. Yeah, so I would kill, definitely kill the wind.
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  Speaker 1: I think I would fuck the snow because that's more
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  Speaker 1: of like a one night stand thing I have.
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  Speaker 2: I've been in Florida for a long time. I was
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  Speaker 2: born in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: I know snow. I've seen snow. It's great to visit snow.
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  Speaker 1: I would not want as an adult. I've never had
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  Speaker 1: to shovel it out of my driveway. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: having to do that on a day to day basis.
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  Speaker 1: So that is very much one night stand material. And
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  Speaker 1: then I guess i'd marry the rain because there's nothing better.
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  Speaker 4: Then.
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  Speaker 1: You've got nothing to do, You're off all day. You
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  Speaker 1: maybe you drink too much the night before and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, it just starts storming.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a walk step with you here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh the vibes are immaculate. Yeah, I can definitely marry that.
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  Speaker 4: We have some arguments in our chat section on production,
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  Speaker 4: But question number three do you wish your friends still
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  Speaker 4: had to MySpace rank you on social media, so you
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  Speaker 4: knew where you stood with people.
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  Speaker 1: This would have been a very difficult question years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about how I would even go about
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  Speaker 1: doing this myself. In the past, when this was a thing,
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  Speaker 1: we had to make some business decisions and some people
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  Speaker 1: had to get lopped off that maybe didn't deserve it
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  Speaker 1: because there was limited space. Now, I mean, I would
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  Speaker 1: be taking applications to get to eight, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I would be all that offended. I'm pretty confident
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  Speaker 1: in the three or four people that would have me
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  Speaker 1: in a top eight, and then anything else would be
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  Speaker 1: a surprise.
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  Speaker 2: At this point, maybe you know.
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  Speaker 1: It would be awesome though, is if we had some
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  Speaker 1: big listener of the show, somebody who's there there into
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  Speaker 1: every second of every episode.
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  Speaker 2: We started sliding.
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  Speaker 1: In to so many other people's top eights that we
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  Speaker 1: weren't necessarily familiar with. So my top eight count as
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  Speaker 1: far as where my face would appear, might even be
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  Speaker 1: higher than it's been in the past. But in terms
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  Speaker 1: of me coming up with a good top eight for
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  Speaker 1: the people in my life, it'd be roight. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously you and Stuck you would be on there.
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  Speaker 4: It's more so like where you stand with other people,
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  Speaker 4: like I think it would be easy for me to
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  Speaker 4: make my rankings, but what I want to know is
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  Speaker 4: would the people on my rankings rank me similarly.
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  Speaker 1: We're probably better off having gotten rid of that, but
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  Speaker 1: it was good to know where you were at in
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  Speaker 1: some respects.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I kind of miss is like knowing
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  Speaker 4: where I stood with Pootball, and.
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  Speaker 1: It was you could be much more somewhat direct and
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  Speaker 1: subtle at the same time with telling someone that they're
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  Speaker 1: on the shit list.
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  Speaker 2: Was you know, hey, you're.
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  Speaker 1: Not going to text them and say, hey, you're off
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  Speaker 1: the top eight.
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  Speaker 2: But eventually, you know they'd see it, they would check.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would know that they fucked up and that
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  Speaker 1: it's time to get it right. So maybe there's something
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  Speaker 1: to that. All right, you got anything else before I
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  Speaker 1: move on to the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 3: No, just my dog barking at somebody in the hallway.
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  Speaker 1: All right, take it easy, Jackson, our main dish today.
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  Speaker 1: The Texans have been busy. They released safety Jimmy Ward.
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  Speaker 1: They traded Titus Howard to the Browns for a fifth
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  Speaker 1: But the big one that we saw yesterday they made
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  Speaker 1: a deal with the Lions, acquiring David Montgomery. They sent
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  Speaker 1: out Juice Scruggs, a fourth round pick and a seventh
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  Speaker 1: round pick. Is that too much for a running back
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  Speaker 1: that hasn't eclipsed seven hundred and seventy five yards for
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  Speaker 1: the past two seasons.
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  Speaker 4: I think so, mostly just because I see a trade
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  Speaker 4: like this as kind of a finishing piece on an offense,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't I think that he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a finishing piece on this offense. I don't think that
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  Speaker 4: this solves any of their issues. I think it makes
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  Speaker 4: it worse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm also looking at this from the Lions side. As
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  Speaker 1: exciting as this is for Jamior Gibbs dynasty managers, for
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  Speaker 1: which I am one of them, I feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: going to do something with that Montgomery role. It was
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  Speaker 1: Jamal Williams before that. Then they upgrade to Montgomery, and
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  Speaker 1: lately Montgomery hasn't really felt like anything special. Six million
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year for a goal lineback and now, I
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  Speaker 1: mean to your point, now you look at it from
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  Speaker 1: the Houston side too. Okay, so they have Woody Marx
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  Speaker 1: and David Montgomery. Does that really fix their offense? They're
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  Speaker 1: going through these changes, they're releasing guys on defense. They're
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  Speaker 1: clearly trying to upgrade that offensive line, which was a
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  Speaker 1: major issue.
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  Speaker 2: But this feels like.
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  Speaker 1: Putting duck tape on the ship that's starting to take
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  Speaker 1: on water. For the Houston Texans, I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 1: much it actually helps their offense. I think, yes, it
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  Speaker 1: clears things up for fantasy, but does it actually make
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  Speaker 1: the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 2: All that much better?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing is too, is with rag now retiring
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  Speaker 4: and Scrugs moving like it helps the Lions a lot
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  Speaker 4: more than it does the Texans. And it's just I
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  Speaker 4: don't think that this makes them And here's the thing,
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  Speaker 4: here's kind of how I have come to terms with
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  Speaker 4: it and how I talked myself off the ledge yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: This move doesn't move them anywhere in the division for me,
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  Speaker 4: which is what I think that they need to think
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  Speaker 4: about moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: One. You and the Jags are right there neck and neck.
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  Speaker 4: I depending on how the draft goes and what kind
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  Speaker 4: of rookie production you get, you guys are probably that
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  Speaker 4: one too.
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  Speaker 3: But with the.
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  Speaker 4: Coaching changes and everything in Tennessee, I think that they're
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  Speaker 4: about to be on somebody's ass. And you can't really
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  Speaker 4: count the Colts out of anything anymore. If they can
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  Speaker 4: figure out their quarterback situation in any capacity, everything else
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  Speaker 4: around them is a lot better. So it's like, where
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  Speaker 4: did this move Houston in the rankings of the division,
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  Speaker 4: which is what is going to be most.
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  Speaker 3: Important for them right now? Not really anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I do appreciate the aggressiveness of Nick Cassario. You very
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  Speaker 1: well could in these the GM of the Texans, you
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  Speaker 1: very well could have just said, hey, we had one
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  Speaker 1: of the elite defenses, we have a quarterback that we
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  Speaker 1: think is going to improve, and we'll we'll just roll.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a separate conversation for a different day
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  Speaker 1: or maybe today. But goal line touchdown percentage over expected.
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  Speaker 1: So the worst teams on the goal line last year
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  Speaker 1: the Saints, the Giants, the Patriots who made it to
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and then the Texans. Those are the
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  Speaker 1: worst Texans, Pats, Giants, Saints best to worst and in
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  Speaker 1: that order. So David Montgomery at least helps in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think this helps the explosiveness or lack thereof
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  Speaker 1: in their offense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't really fix the quarterback problem with the
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  Speaker 4: running back, so.
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  Speaker 1: That's the other side of this, too, is what do
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  Speaker 1: the Texans do. I think this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: fascinating to watch this offseason they do with CJ.
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  Speaker 2: Stroud.
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  Speaker 1: This is typically when a quarterback he's entering the final
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  Speaker 1: year of his contract. This is typically when teams would
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  Speaker 1: sign those quarterbacks to massive extensions. But now we have
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  Speaker 1: examples piling up of that being a terrible idea. Two
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  Speaker 1: is one of them Cousins just signed an awful contract
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  Speaker 1: and that that tanked Atlanta's ability to maneuver with the cap.
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson with the Denver Broncos, and they were able
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  Speaker 1: to overcome that. But there's still examples piling up of
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have the upper echelon quarterbacks, just don't bother.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Texans go into next season saying that
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  Speaker 1: you've got to prove it. But that would be very
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  Speaker 1: much bucking the trend. That's not what the forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers did with brock Perdy. Do you think they end
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  Speaker 1: up signing him to some big deal and would it
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  Speaker 1: be a mistake if they did that.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Are you if you if you're in that you know conversation,
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  Speaker 4: are you scared of losing CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud.
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  Speaker 4: Are you scared of pissing him off? Because honestly I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't be, So make go out there and make him
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  Speaker 4: prove it. I'm not scared of losing you. If you
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  Speaker 4: have a good season.
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  Speaker 3: Cool, we'll chat.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll overpay you for my mistake a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't think the risk reward here is enough.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny how the NFL ebbs and flows like that,
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  Speaker 1: because for years it felt like if you had a
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  Speaker 1: guy that.
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  Speaker 2: Was in the top fifteen, fuck it, you just paid him.
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  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, we're seeing Tyler Shucks
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  Speaker 1: of the world coming second round pick.
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  Speaker 2: That is a that's a starting.
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  Speaker 3: Well Sam Baker Mayfield conversation too. You could look at
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  Speaker 3: look at Indiana Jones. You can go out there.
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  Speaker 4: I think the other thing that's happening is we're seeing
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  Speaker 4: NFL teams give up so quickly on some of these
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  Speaker 4: young guys, and they're going somewhere else and finding it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, work somewhere with somebody else. The conversation the
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  Speaker 4: last couple of weeks has been who's the next Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 4: We're having that conversation all over again. People are probably
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  Speaker 4: gonna go out there and give mac Jones another chance.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I could see Anthony Richardson as much as I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that he's in NFL quarterback getting another chance somewhere,
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  Speaker 4: people are probably gonna give Kyler a chance for that
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  Speaker 4: same conversation. I just with the way that that trend
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  Speaker 4: has continued over the last couple of years successfully in
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  Speaker 4: multiple situations. I don't think that you go out there
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  Speaker 4: and you pay a guy like CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a copycat league. And for years we saw
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  Speaker 1: teams that just said, okay, we have middle of the
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  Speaker 1: road quarterback play. We got to pay him so that
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  Speaker 1: we don't end up at the bottom of the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And like you said, it's just we were almost in
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  Speaker 1: this quarterback surplus right now, or there's no reason to
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  Speaker 1: do that, and teams would rather bottom out with a
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  Speaker 1: bad quarterback than to be stuck with a bad contract
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  Speaker 1: on the books. No position is worse than where the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins are right now. Nobody's trying to pay fifty
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  Speaker 1: to ninety million dollars for quarterback that you don't even
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  Speaker 1: want to see, that you don't want to see them
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  Speaker 1: on the football field.
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  Speaker 2: And C J.
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  Speaker 1: Stroud was I mean that dude was awful in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all he had to do was be a Drake
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  Speaker 4: May who had you know, similar kind of issues throughout
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  Speaker 4: the postseason, and your defense wasn't even enough to help
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  Speaker 4: you do that, and they did everything.
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  Speaker 1: So I did not know that there were side bets
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  Speaker 1: going on whether or not I would bring up the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Okay, they're in a bad quarterback situation minus
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  Speaker 1: eight fifty. Wow, that was pricey too. You had the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: lace of juice on getting that one real quick. Also,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs final year of his contracts and now he's
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the lone star running back in the backfield.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: What was that nickname?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: These those two had a nickname Gibbs. Yeah, it was Sonic.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And who ran with Sonic? My kid knuckles, Yes, my
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: kid watches Sonic.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I should know this. But they're going to bring in
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: somebody else.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: So if you have Gibbs in fantasy, I mean, obviously
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: he's awesome, but don't get too excited like he's gonna
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: have the backfield all to himself. I do think they're
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: going to sign him to an extension and he and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Bijon Robinson. This will tie in perfect to the conversation
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: we're about to have with Ryan about the NFL Draft.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Those guys were top picks in.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: The first round and they have hit big time and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: helped their offenses in a very big way.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Both guys are going to get paid when that.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: I think their agents should start holding hands and just
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: give the same number.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Completely agree, and I think Jeremiah Love should call them
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: and say thank you very much. Yes, those two are
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: about to make him a top ten.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Pick, and I think that we think the conversation.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I cannot wait to ask our guests about this because
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: this conversation of either him going in the top five
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: or potentially fall into like seventeen has just.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Been This is going to be the drama of the air.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: It's going to be the Jackson dar of last year
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: of will he actually go here or is he going
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: to fall to the second round? That that's the conversation
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: we're going to be having.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Well, we're about to dive into that conversation even further
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: in a moment NFL Combine Recap with Ryan Roberts. But
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: first a word from our very own Kendrick Middleton.
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• 18:24
  Speaker 2: The NFL Combine is in the books.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: We've got risers, we've got followers, and we bring on
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: our special guests this week to comb through it all.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Ryan Roberts, NFL college football analyst from A to Z Sports.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Ryan, thanks for hanging out with us. How you doing today.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I'm good. I'm good.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Thank you guys having having me. It's you know, I'm
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: kind of just getting back in the groove of things
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: a little bit, you know, got back over the weekend
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: after a few days in Indianapolis. It's my favorite week
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: of the year, but I feel like I need a
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: few days afterwards. Just kind of recouping, get back to
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: the swing and you know, being dad and kind of
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: doing that balancing act. But I'm excited to be on here.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: How many did you eat at Saint Elbow's?
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Actually none?
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I want to admit this on air,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: but I'm not really a shrimp guy in general. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: did have three steak dinners in three straight nights, though,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: if that makes up for it. So I had a
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: lot of steak, but no Saint Elmo's, No Saint Elmo's,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: you know, shrimp cocktails or anything for me this past week.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Can you before you get to the football side of it,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: can you add or subtract to the lore around that
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: steakhouse as as a breeding ground for rumors hobnobbing?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Is it all it's cracked up to be? It? Is?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: It is?
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I think I think that there's two places in Indianapolis
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: to go to if you just kind of want to,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: you know, rub elbows at points with the different decision
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: makers and coaches. One is Saint Elmo's, which you're gonna
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: run into just about everybody at Saint Elmo's, both on
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: the media side and on the coaching general manager side
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: of things, and then the other one's High Velocity, which
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: is like a bar near there in the JW.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Marriott.
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: Like my first year, I think this was number five
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: for me of combines. Remember the first year I went there,
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: I didn't understand the lore at all until I sat
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: down in High Velocity for dinner right next to Sean
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: Payton and his coaching staff right next to me, right,
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: So like it is, it's legit, Like you can you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: you just got to kind of be a fly on
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: the wall a little bit and just listen intently because
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: there is a lot of tibbets that you can gather
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: just kind of being the flying the walls to a degree.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's dive into it. First of all,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the value of the combine. We've compared the combine to
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I think a cupcake is what we used last week.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I've called it the sprinkles, others have called it the icing.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Where do you land on the value that the combine
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: has in the overall evaluation process.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: And how would you compare it to that dessert item?
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: So for me, like for the media side of things,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: I think that this is actually like the base of
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: the cupcake, like this is the foundation is kind of
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: how I would quantify it, because when you're at the
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: Senior Bowl, or you're at East West Shrine, or you
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: go on the Pro day circuit, like all those types
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: of things, you get the sprinkles of information, but from
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: like a media side of just like information gathering. There
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: is no place like Indianapolis for just kind of getting
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: like legit intel. I mean, it's lying seasons, so there's
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: always some information that you just kind of have to
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: disregard and cone through, but you really do find a
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: lot of good stuff because this is the only draft
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: event pre draft event where you have every media member
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: who matters to every coaching you know, coaching personnel, decision makers, agents, players,
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: three hundred and eighteen players all under the same root.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: So if you're good at it, you know, like you
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: just know how to hear things right and how to
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: cipher through things. So I think foundationally speaking in it
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: for us on this side, I do think that it
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: is a very important part for the actual NFL evaluator side,
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: though I think that it probably is sprinkles to your point, right,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Like I think that you have already done the bulk
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: of the work it's the film, It's the Eye and
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: the sky like that stuff carries the most most part
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: of this evaluation process. After that, it's just does he
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: check out athletically for what I saw in film? It's
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: a verification process. Does he interview well? And do the
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: medicals check out? So it's still an important part of
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: the process, but the overall most important part is what
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: did you do during the twenty nineteen twenty twenty five
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: excuse me college football season?
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: So you were boots on the ground. I needed to
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: know if the combine is back? There were more big
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: name players from college football this year than we've seen
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years participating will this day?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Was it random?
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Does the clickbait aspect help some of these guys in
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: the long run show up, participate, maybe get a little
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: bit of that viral fame before the question mark of
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: their career takes over. What was kind of the vibe of,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: you know, like the Jeremiah Love was of the world
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: being there in participating and seeing more of these big
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: name guys on every side of the ball. Maybe not
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: so much the quarterbacks, but did it feel like the energy.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Was back at the combine this year?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: I think there was a lot of energy from the
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: player's side. The media was a little bit it was
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: a little bit. It was a little bit inconsistent from
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: just like the media availability perspective, because a lot of
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: the media was dealing with like the blizzards in the Northeast, right,
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: so like travel was was hard. I mean myself, like
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I had to deal with it as well, So like
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: the media presence wasn't as strong as it has been
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: in a couple combines that I've been to.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: But from the player side of things.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean, I think that they set up precedence, right.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: I think it was am and Ross Saint Brown on
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Caleb Downs and Josh Downs podcast that basically said, like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: if you're gonna run fast, go run fast. Right, So
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: that's what we saw this past week of if you're
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: confident in your athleticism, show it off. And I think
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: that Jeremiah Love did that to your point of running
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: three four, three six rvel rees and Sunny Styles, who
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: were both probably gonna be top five to top six
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: draft picks, decided I'm going to run four four to
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: six in the forty and I'm going to do the
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: position drills and Sunny Styles did all of the testings,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: so I think they're just kind of seeing those guys tests.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Even Cornell Tait, like most people didn't think Ohio State's
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: receiver was going to test this week, and I know
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: there's been a lot of controversy over four on and
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: four five three and being the first wide receiver off
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: the board, but he showed up and he decided to
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: test last minute, which I just kind of think adds
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: to that precedent a little bit. So I think if
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: they see more and more players of that status and
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: that magnitude can continue to test, I do think that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: going to set a good standard for the people come
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: and move forward, because at the end of the day,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: there's always gonna be people that opt out. But the
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: people that opt out more than more than most, in
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: my opinion, would be guys that either don't have anything
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: to gain, but more than anything, it's guys that don't
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: think they're gonna test well. Like I wasn't shocked to
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: see Ruben Bain from Miami not tests because I just
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: don't think he's going to be a good tester. Sonny Styles,
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: on the other hand, didn't really have a ton to gain, arguably,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: but he decided I'm gonna put an exclamation point next
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: to my name in this draft, and he was able
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: to solidify things.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that kind of leads into my next question.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Over the last couple of years, we've seen guys run faster,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: jump high er, get stronger, overall look more impressive. What
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: is more responsible for some of these numbers, specifically the
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: quick jump in the numbers? Is it the sports science,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: is it the nutrition and all of that, or is
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: it more.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Focused being on the drills that they train for?
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Right, Like a lot of these guys are going to
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: participate in things that are going to make them look good,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: specifically something like the forty yard dash and a focus
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: on that in particular preparing for it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Which one do you think is more likely?
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: I think, generally speaking, it's that training is just getting
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: better more than anything, because, like there goes, there's a
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: lot that goes into that process. It's not just learning
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: mechanically how to run the best version of a forty
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: r dash or the broad jump or you know, your
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: three cone all that type of stuff. It is also
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: that they have the nutrition side of that as well.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: They're monitoring the intake and lifting and doing all these jumps,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: and so I think that that is mostly a part
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: of the process. But I do think there's something to
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: be said about the fact that some guys are very
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: strategic with what they do tests in Indianapolis, like for
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: a lot most players now, a lot of them focus on,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: for instance, like the explosive stuff at the at the combine,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: and then they'll do the short area stuff at the prodain.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: So they'll do the forty yr dash, they'll do the
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: broad jump, they'll do the vertical all in Indie because
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: those things are all interrelated. It's about lower body explosiveness
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: and kind of more linear type of explosiveness. And then
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: they'll train for all NonStop for weeks for the pro
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: day of doing their best five ten to five into
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: three cones. So I think that you're definitely compartmentalizing how
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: you attack the process. But I think overall it's just
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: partly evolution. Guys are getting bigger, faster, stronger, just generally speaking.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: But I think more than anything, it's the training aspect
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: of it. I mean, if you go down to like
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: bomb Rito or one of the exoss across the country,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: like these these these people know what they're doing obviously
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: and they're getting a lot of results.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Ryan, we are all curious to know after the NFL
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: combine takes place, who's rising up the board, who's falling
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: based on their measurements, the athleticism, the scores and all
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of that. I was blown away by Tailing Green of Arkansas,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: curious to see what happens with that. He's a physical specimen.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Three risers, three fallers. Who are guys that come to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: mind for you.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna steal Tailing Green for you for a second,
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: because I do think that quarterback three is wide open.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: After Fernanda Mendoz and Ty Simpson, there's been a lot
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: of you know, a lot of love for Garrett us Meyer,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: and I do think that the NFL still does like
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Garrett Smier from LSU. But I do think that there's
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: a there's definitely an option that maybe somewhere on Day
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: two now, a team goes Tailing Green. Might not be
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: ready to start a quarterback in the NFL, but with
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: how athletic he is, that kind of gives you a
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: nice floor to work with in terms of, like if
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: he flames out as a quarterback, I think I think
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: an NFL offense coordinator can figure out what to do
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: with a six foot six, two hundred and thirty pound guy
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: that runs four thirty six, right, Like you can figure
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: something out for that type a little bit.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Like like Jalen Milroe in that way.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Is it kind of great?
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Yeh yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: I think it's a Turell prior situation too, And I
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: know there is a little bit of a different situation
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: coming out of Ohio State, but I mean he ends
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: up being a wide receiver in the NFL for several
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: years as well, Like you're not drafted him in with
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: the intention that you're gonna move the wide receiver necessarily.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: But I do think that athleticism, it creates a floor
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: of like that guy's an NFL athlete for sure. So yeah, Milroy,
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I think is an interesting situation as well and kind
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: of similar issue. So I think tailing Green is definitely
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: one of them.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Without question.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: I will say trading Stokes out of Arizona, the defensive
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: back is one of my favorite players in his class.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: He was getting top one one hundred feedback before this,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: before the event, but then he goes out and at
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: six foot one and right around one hundred and ninety
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: five pounds, he runs four to three to three and
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: has a forty plus inch avert.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: So he's film plus.
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: I think he tested maybe a little better than some
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: NFL team's thoughts, So I think he's probably a top
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: sixty four kid at this point. Like I don't see
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: him getting out of the second round when he was
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: probably more of a seventy five to one hundred type
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: of player going into the event. So he's definitely rising
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: without questions. And I think that there's gonna be some
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: other guys, like I'm just trying to think, like Blake Miller,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: I think got a Clemson's guy that is slowly kind
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: of ascending to a back half of first round type
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: of offensive tackle. Was kind of viewed as like probably
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: a mid second rounder before the process started, but at
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: six foot seven and three hundred and fifteen pounds with
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: thirty four plus inch arms, able to test at a
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: high level when you look at like his relative athletics score.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: So those are a few guys I think really kind
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: of rose fallers. Generally in this event, it's not usually
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: as much athletic testing. It's usually the stuff you get
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: after the fact of like medicals and character stuff.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: And I do think think that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: I think that there's a heavier debate coming out at
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: wide receiver than there was coming in. I think that
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Carnell Tates while I'm not worried about him running four
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: or five three, just me speaking like I'm not actually
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: not worried about that. I think the one piece of
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: news that I got that actually I put out at
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: eighty to Z was that Jordan Tyson's medicals came back
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: good the Arizona state wide receiver this past week, which
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: is huge for him, Like that was one of the
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: big deterrens for him in terms of him being wide
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: receiver one or being wide receiver three. So I do
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: think there's actually gonna be an interesting conversation down the
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: stretch of who is wide receiver one in this class
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: and if it ends up being Tyson. I think we're
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: seeing Carnell Tait mostly in like top eights of MOX.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't be shocked if he's more in like the
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: late teens, depending on just kind of how that wide
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: receiver pecking order kind of falls. So I think he's
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: a guy that could fall slightly in this process. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: do think also that Garrett Nussmeyer is a guy that
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: It kind of goes with what I talked about with
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Taylor Green earlier. If Taylor Green ends up being the
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: quarterback three off the board, then Garrett Usmeyer is probably
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: gonna fall a little bit. He's kind of generally thought
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: of as like a top seventy. But if Taylor Green
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: becomes a third quarterback off the board, does the team
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: kind of just kind of fill the need and just
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: kind of keep it moving. I do think that he
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: is a player that could trend downward a good bit
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: in terms of, you know, his evaluation to the NFL
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: side of things.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: And then I'm trying to think of a I.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: Would say again, I don't know if I would call
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: him a faller, but Jermald McCoy out of Tennessee had
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: a chance to kind of stop some some question marks
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: with his his injury because he had the torn acl
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: in the spring. He didn't play in the entire year
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: for Tennessee. The talented cornerback and apparently he's healthy, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: he should have been Indianapolis and didn't do anything because
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: of the because of you know, he just wasn't physically
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: ready quote unquote, So he just had a chance to
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: kind of quiet some question Marks, So a guy that
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I thought was gonna be a top ten pick going
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: into this process. If he was available later in like
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: late first round, I would not be shocked at this point.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: So there's a couple of guys that just kind of
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: slid a little bit.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: So on the topic of guys rising and kind of falling,
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love looks really good. I've heard people like Brandon
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: say they think that he's going to be a top
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: five pick. I've heard people say that if he doesn't
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: go to the Chiefs, he's going to fall pretty far
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: back into the teens after being there this week. Where
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: do you think it is a realistic spot or a
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: realistic team for him to wind up with, So.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: Going into the events or probably like a couple weeks,
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: you know, prior to leading up to it, I thought
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: that Jeremiah Love was the most likely landing spot was
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: probably in that eight to nine spots with the New
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: Orleans Saints and then the Kansas City Chiefs leaving the event,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: I think that's the floor now, like I don't think
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: that's the most likely. I think that there is legitimate
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: smoke around the Tennessee Titans at four and it's going
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: to be a huge debate over positional need versus luxury
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: and all that type of stuff. But I do think
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: there's a the straddling of the line of a conversation
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: of do we want to take the premium position even
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: if we have him graded a lot lower, or do
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: we want to take a guy that's maybe going to
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: be an all pro running back? So I think four.
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: I also think number three to Cardinals Arizona Cardinals is
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: like a sneaky spot for Jeremiah Love. So I think
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: his spot now is between somewhere between three and nine.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: I think nine is the floor though, and before the event,
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: I kind of thought that that was kind of the
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: sweet spot for him.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Do you think I think Callie easy for a running back.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Though, b Jeon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs, We're now starting to
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: see the pendulum swing. Gone are the days, Ryan of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette busting with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to talk myself out of them signing Etn.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Dude, the Titans, the Jags.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I'm a Jaguars fan, and I don't want them to
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: pay him what I think he wants.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: That's fair.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Travis Etn is like a middle of the road running back.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love looks like and I want to ask athletically,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: in terms of testing and things like that, who does
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: he compare to when we talk about him from an
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: athletic perspective, because I think he's better than etn.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: So people can comparing him to Jumior Gibbs, but they're
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: completely different size profiles. Like Gibbs was like five nine
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: one hundred and ninety nine pounds. Jeremy Love's six foot
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: two fourteen and he's he's got or to twelve I
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: think is what he waighed and he played it like
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: two fourteen to fifteen. He's got long arms too, so
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: he's got thirty two in charms. Not that that matters
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: for the running back position, but like just to kind
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: of illustrate that, like he's a bigger athlete, Like he's
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: not a small He's not like a smaller because like
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: two hundred pounds is like kind of that threshold of
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: success and Shamier gives is actually a slight outlier in
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: terms of like sub two hundred pound running backs that
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: have been really successful in the NFL level. Love fits
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: more of like the traditional back that you look at
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: For me, I always compare him to Alvin Kamara with
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: more home run speed, Like that's what he reminds me
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: of because he's explosive, gets to his top gear in
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: a hurry, really good out of the backfield, and then
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: like sneaky good change of direction in open space as well.
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: So like I think he can wait four.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: We got to talk about that though etn.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Allegedly the reason that he can change directions so fast
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: is because after he tore that achilles, they couldn't get
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: his foot to go completely back the right direction.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So when he cuts, people don't know where.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: He's gonna go because his foot sits out.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Here like a club.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He kind of does have the kind of rubbed He
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: kind of runs like a duck a little bit.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: That's that's why it's the surgery.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: It's hilarious.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: The uh yeah, the love thing is gonna be interesting,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: probably the most fascinating prospects.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Oh if he got to twelve with the Cowboys, I'd
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: be like shocked. At this point. Here's an interesting one.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: I keep hearing now and this is like a weird
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: like rumor that's out there and I don't actually buy
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: this one, So like I'm not gonna give it like
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: like a lot of credence.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: But someone keeps.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: Saying, if there's anybody that someone's going to trade up for,
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: it's Jeremiah Love in this class, And I'm like, when
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: is the last time a team traded up for a
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: running back in the first rounds?
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: Like, when is the last time that's happened.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: I haven't done the research on it yet, but like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: I cannot remember that happening.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: I because like even Jimi or Gibbs, the.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Droit was it Ricky Williams.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Maybe Ricky Williams, I guess, and they mortgaged their entire
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: team to get Ricky Williams and it didn't actually end
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: up working out very well, right, So, like I don't know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: Like I I generally speaking, I'm a little bit of
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: a purist of don't take a running back in the
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: top ten, But I do think there's exceptions in draft.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think this is a good It's this is
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: a weird draft class because you could argue the four
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: best players in this draft play non premium positions, like
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: you could you could argue it's Jeremiah Love at running back,
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Caleb Downson safety, and then two linebackers from Ohio State, right, So,
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: like you could argue this is a non premium draft,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: which is why I'm not like I'm not buying into
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: the positional value conversation.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: That's fair.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, like, seriously, you could add him, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: then there's a lot of people that like, uh, the
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: guard from Penn State Vega, who is you know again,
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: he's a guard. That's not a premium position at all.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Like that's the point of it. And even the defensive
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: tackle room this year, where we would typically think value
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: is with these guys that can create a lot of
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: sack production and be penetrators.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: This is more of a nose tackle class. So like,
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: this is just a weird draft in the sense of
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: I don't care as much.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: About positional value because I think that the non positional
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: value positions are the ones that are the best in
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: this draft by far. Like this is a safety linebacker
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Jeremiah Love class this year. That's what it is at
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: is it a good draft class? Just looking at it generally.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I know, I know what you're saying about the the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: not the positional need the traditional you gotta get your
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: left tackle, gotta get your quarterback, gotta lock up the
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: top dB, those are the best drafts.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: But drafts we're also talking.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: About the guys at the top, and I think that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that is a mistake that we often get into and
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: judging draft classes is just looking at the top twenty picks.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Gms and scouts are much more interested in the total
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: body of the seven rounds. Do you think this is
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a good draft for a general manager or a scout
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: going in?
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: Well, I love your note there on how scouts viewed
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: the draft. I mean the rams have consistently over the
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: last few years like devalued first round picks at times,
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: but they filled gaps with late day two to day
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: three picks, like talking about like Poka Nakua and Kyraen
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Williams and all those things. So, like value throughout is
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: very important. When I judge a draft, it's based upon
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: two things. One, it's the top end talent at the
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: you know, right at the top of the board. And
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: then it is the depth.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Of the class.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: And so to answer your question and to give slight
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: more analysis afterwards, no, I don't think this is a
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: good draft.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: I think this is a below average draft by all indicators.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: It is because I do think the top of the
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: draft needs to be judged by the valuable positions. So
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: like this year, it's not a great left tackle draft.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: It's a one quarterback draft. And the edge group I
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: think is like, it's a good edge group at the top,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: but more I think, more often than not, like the
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: bane bai Lea tier is probably more in like the
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: eight to fifteen range in a draft than a team
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: that maybe is going to draft them at number two. Right,
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: So like I think that you have to judge it
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: at the top by that criteria. And then I'll tell you, guys,
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: like I've done way too many, like three four round
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: mock drafts at this point, when I'm getting to like
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: the late portion of like mid to late third rounds,
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: it is like pulling teeth, man, Like it really is.
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: So I don't think the depth is great, and I
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: do think that the fact that the premium positions are
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: not great this year does make it a well below
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: average draft in my opinion.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Kendrew was talking about the tight end position, and it
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: does seem like we've got a couple of freaks at
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the top. Where do you land on Sadiq and did
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he sort of steal the weekend from from Stours Vanderbilt
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: to a lot of people really like who do you like.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: More and what do you think of the tight end
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: class at the top?
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: So Sid I love Sadik as a player.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: I do think that his usage was very up and
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: down at Oregon, but I do think that the upside
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: is still tremendous because I mean, you can't teach two
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: hundred and forty one pounds that runs four three nine
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: and has a forty two and a half inch for like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: it's just crazy stuff. Man, It's funny, like he he
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: made me look a little prophetic to a degree after
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: he had his testing because before the season I was
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: talking to a scout and he made them look prophetic
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: when they I was like, hey, what do you got
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: on Sadik? Because I'd heard that some scouts were really
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: high on I mean even before here's a backup the
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: Terrence Ferguson previously right, So like it was like, how
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: good is Sadiq? And the one scout said, this is
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: Vernon Davis again. And when you look like his numbers
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: next to Vernon Davis coming out of Maryland, it's very similar.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: Like I think I think Vernon ran like four to
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: four flats and Sadik ran four to three nine and
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: they both for forty plus into vertical guys, so it
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: is eerily similar. So I think as long as their
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: usage is better on the NFL level and you kind
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: of develop his routree a little bit, Kenyan Sadik is
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: a physical block or two, which I think a lot
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: of people kind of lose sight of. So like he's
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: an all around dude that he can play f he
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: can play wide, like he can play in the slot
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: of times as well, so like he can play attached
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: or detached. So he's tied on one in this class,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: and I think there's like a big tear drop after him.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I still like Stours, but
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: like how I agreed players just in general, is the
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: more you can do and the more plus you're at,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: the higher caliber player you are. For me, Sadik is
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: just a versatile weapon. For me, Stours is a pure
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: f tight end, which there's nothing.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Wrong with that.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: But there's just gonna be some teams that overvalue or
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: maybe just value higher the blocking ability and they're not
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: even gonna give Stours at the time of day. They're
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: just gonna be like, you can't be you can't be
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: a guy that's gonna play in line forty five and
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: half invert plays obviously, eleven three broad plays, four or
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: five months speed plays. He's gonna have a role in
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: the NFL level, and it's probably gonna be like an
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: An Ingram type of player more than likely, which I
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: think does give him a chance to maybe get into
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: the back end of round one after the performance. But
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I do think we we're talking about like tiers of
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: tight ends. I think that Kenyan Sadik is tight end
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: won by a pretty good, pretty good margin right now.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, so not the sexiest draft class in general, not
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: the sexiest quarterback draft class. I could get cue and
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: said here and ask you about Fernando Mendoza compared to
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: last year's quarterbacks. I could sit here and ask you
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: about Ty Simpson falling. I could sit here and ask
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: you about Diego Pavia, but quite frankly, I don't give
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: a fuck about him.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: What I would like to.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Ask you, though, I'm going to put the gun to
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: your head quite closely here. I want to talk about
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, but I want to know who asked for
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza to get arrested.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Who do you think right now, just gut reaction.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Probably the Jets, I guess, right, like.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: The Jets have I mean, because we were when we
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: were positioning the So the Jets went through that tailspin
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: at the end of the year where they basically, I mean,
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: I'm tanking. Isn't a thing in the NFL quote unquote,
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: but like let's call it what it was. They were
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: trying to position for a higher draft pick right when
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: they were had the number two pick. Originally, you're like, Okay, Mendoza,
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Dante More gonna fight it out. They get one of
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: those two guys, and you feel good about their standing
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: at number two.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: As soon as he went back to school and.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: Leonora's Sellers fell off the face of the earth and
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: ty Simpson had his downslide down the stretch of the season,
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: You're like, damn, the Jets are gonna just gonna keep
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: jetting now, right Like this.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Is bad, Like you still can't find your quarterback.
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: So I mean, if there's a team that is like
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: for some reason hoping and praying that the Raiders, for
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: whatever reason, just decide we don't want Bernando Mendoze at
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: number one, which I don't think is going to happen.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: But if there was a team, it's probably the New
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: York Jets because like they even I mean, they made
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: a bunch of trades, like they did to Queen and
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Williams trade. They did the sauce garter trade because they
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: were trying to position themselves to get the AMMO to
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: get their quarterback in case they weren't in the right spot.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: And then you get the number two pick and it's
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: a one quarterback class. Like, the Jets are in a
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: really tough spot right now.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I wonder what Fernando Mendoza would have to do, what
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: crime he would have to commit for him to actually
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: fall in this draft with how little the quarterback position
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: is gaining steam outside of him.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: Gas mask bong, Laramie Tunzel situations, and there's too much
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: legality with smoking weed now, I don't even think that
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: that would do it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: It would have to be something pretty egregious for him.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: When I worked in San Francisco that came out because
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I was interning out there when the Laramie Tunsel thing happened.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: We tried and weed was already legal in California at
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: this point. As an intern, they sent me out trying
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: to find a gas mask at Loewe's home depot everywhere,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: couldn't get one.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: People in San Francisco probably like I don't understand the problem.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: That's part of the job, interview.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: And to overlook a lot of stuff with quarterbacks obviously
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: too right, Like you're gonna overlook a lot and unfortunately,
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: you know you never say never to guys doing stupid stuff.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: But like Ferananamen doses.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Like kidding me people you've ever seen, right, So like
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: good luck trying to hope that he does something stupid
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: from here till April.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, zero percent chance.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: That's that's how I would poet Georgia. It just like
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: he's just like the last guy in the world to
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: break the law. I don't even think you would know
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: how to if he tried. All right, two last things
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: for you, second best quarterback in this year's drafts class,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and I mean, is it clearly Ty Simpson? And then
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: how concerned are you with the roupe in bayin arm length?
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Sure?
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: I yeah, it's Ty Simpson by default, I mean pretty much,
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: because like Tye had a struggling like first game of
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: the season against Florida State and then he had a
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: poor last section of the season just kind of down
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: the stretch because he was banged up and injured.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: But I do think that.
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: The middle, like eighth of the season was was good.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: You know it was it was It was first round
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: level tape. And I think the fact that he showed
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: up to Indianapolis and he was over two hundred and
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: ten pounds was a good step because he needs to
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: show that he could stay healthy, right, so like I
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: wanted him to get a little bit of body armor
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: on him and show that maybe you're a little bit
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: more durable moving forward. So I think that middle section
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: of the season, teams are still going to like a
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: lot of what Ty Simpson is. I don't know if
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: that is a guy that eventually pushes to be a
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: top ten pick mid first round, or is it back
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: into the first round guy or maybe even early second
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure. I tend to think
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: that there is a quarterback tax, so I think a
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: team will ultimately push it, pull the trigger on him
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: inside of the top thirty two. But I do think
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  Speaker 6: he's firm, like after that, it's like Garrett nus Meyer,
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  Speaker 6: Taylor Green, we'll probably talking about more towards top one hundred,
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: than we are for a top thirty two selection, arguably right,
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  Speaker 6: So I do think it is ty Simpson there for.
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  Speaker 5: The Reuben Bay thing. I like, so when you look
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  Speaker 5: at the amil exactly. Yeah. Funny enough.
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  Speaker 6: One of the one of the guys that I was
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: hanging out with it covers the Tennessee Titans, Nick Suss
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  Speaker 6: for The Tennessee and he was actually taught. He actually
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  Speaker 6: called a one of the best, one of the most
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: renowned paleontologists in the country to talk about the t
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  Speaker 6: rex and like what it sounded really weird when I
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: first heard it, but then I read the piece, I
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: was like, this actually kind of makes sense. Like he
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: was not basically talking about like what the deficiencies are
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  Speaker 6: for having short arms in like their habitsat which was
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: just hilarious.
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  Speaker 5: I would actually recomm pieces.
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  Speaker 3: Right, We'll go, I mean I am a dinosaur freak. Immediately, Yes,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: it was so funny.
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  Speaker 5: It was like the most like off the wall thing.
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  Speaker 5: When I first heard it, I'm like, that is so silly.
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  Speaker 6: And then I read it and I'm like, it's kind
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: of funny, Like it makes some sense.
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  Speaker 5: Like the parallels and everything. But all that is to say, like.
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  Speaker 6: I am I'm okay with going for outliers at times
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  Speaker 6: if you feel really vindicated in the outlier. But when
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: we're talking about sub thirty one inch arms, people think
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: it's silly and go to the tape. But when there's
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: historical numbers of thousands of players since nineteen ninety nine,
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: because that's where like mock draft, mock draftable excuse me
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: goes back to and you see that there's been nobody
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: with his measurements historically has been a good player in
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: the NFL, Like, not a single one. You can understand
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: why some NFL teams are like, I'm not betting on
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: that guy as an outlier. Like there's no historical data.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: There's not even like one or two players. People keep
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: trying to compare it to like Tourell Suggs. It's like Guysterrell
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: Suggs had much like con certainly longer arms than he did,
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: and so like there's just like that interesting battle of
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: like the historical outlier conversation. I do think that ruben
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: Bain is going to be a good outlier in sense
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: of like he's going to be a good player, but
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: I am worried about him being a premier pass rusher
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: in the NFL level, because it's not just the arm
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: length ability to play outside his frame. If you have
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: lack of length though at one of those types of position,
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: edge offensive tackle, you need over compensating traits in my opinion,
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: to make up for it. And I think that his
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: closing speed is like very average to blow average as well.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: So I think that he's going to cause a lot
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: of havoc, but I don't think he's going to finish
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  Speaker 6: a lot of plays. So is that a guy you're
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: taking in the top five? I wouldn't want to. Would
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: I rather that guy be like a mid to late
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: first rounder. Yes, I think in most years you'd rather
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: him being that bucket because he's gonna be a good player.
• 46:44
  Speaker 6: But as he had the upside to being an elite
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: pro bowler, all pro, which you want to draft inside
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: the top five, I just don't see that with Ruben Bain.
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: I do have my concerns.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Last thing, because everybody's curious, now, if there was a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Tarannosaurus Rex in this year's drafts class playing at the edge,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: where would he go in the draft?
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  Speaker 5: I mean number one overall?
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: Right, I mean like that's I mean, I don't know
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: what the miles per hour on t rex are but
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: I assume that they are quite fast for their size,
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: and then they're also gigantic. So I mean, how many
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: blockers would you need to handle a t rex, a
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: real life t rex.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, five, yeah, like yeah, like yeah, a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I'd worry about character concerns probably with the t rex.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: It's fair, He's it's killed a lot of things, right,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: So yeah, there's a lot of character cons there.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Plus their extinct.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Now, so I mean the medicals, I'm not sure the
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: medicals would come back clean.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Would you guys believe me if I said that my
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: literal handbag, like my purse that I carry everywhere right
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: now on my counter is a dinosaur.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm buying that as it is.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Ryan just met you, but I I've definitely that checks
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that checks out.
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: I respected My wife's obsessed with dinosaurs. She's like, anytime
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: you know Jurassic World or Jurassic Parker on, she's watching it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Right, So like, I respect it. I respect it.
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  Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Ryan?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: What's the best way for people to discover your work.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, as I've gotten older, I do not engage as
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  Speaker 5: Thank you bo so much. Appreciate it.
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