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3 Guys Before The Game - Bearcats Bounced (Episode 506) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Yes, yes, yes, it's that time. It must be that time
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  because the music is on. And just like halves Off's dogs, we hear
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  the music, we just start salivating and talking. Welcome in. Three guys
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  before the game episode five oh six bearcats bounced, West Virginia wins the home
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  finale. We'll get in all of that and more hoppies here. Great posture
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  value beyond the numbers. Got some wonderful cookies to us last week. They
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  are there are those anywhere in the building. No, no, they didn't
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  make it to the They're gone. They won Bye bye a little for breakfast
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  with my three guys, would go some coffee, Yeah, breakfast of champ
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  speaking of the speaking of the Conley CPA group, speaking a numbers. Yesterday
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  afternoon at the ballpark, West Virginia doubles up Cincinnati forty two to twenty one
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  in a game that wasn't that close. West Virginia led forty two to seven
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  entering the final quarter. They're at forty two to seven after Jaheem White's four
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  yard touchdown run. A couple of late Cincinnati touchdowns. That one they scored
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  there, the first one of the fourth core. That's up. Pretty nice
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  reverse flee flicker. You gotta say that quick reverse flea flicker. That's pretty
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  nice play. Anyway, The game took three hours and twenty two minutes.
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  I thought with all the running it was gonna be over like two forty five.
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  But eventually they had to start throwing that thing around. What a game
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  individually or h Garrett Green and Jaheim White, as they put, they put
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  a performance on the field that will long be remembered. Individually. Garrett Green
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  throws for two ten completes twelve on a nineteen with a TV and a pick,
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  hits a long of seventy five. Garrett on the ground runs for a
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  buck fifty four on eleven totes. That's a fourteen yard average per carry with
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  a long of thirty. He scored he could cross the goal line three times.
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  And Jaheim White, who yes the senator early on, if you go
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  back and check our old shows, he advocated for him Heisman candidate. Did
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  you or did you not say that I did? Yeah, well he tried
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  to help you. He got it. Twenty one carries for two ten,
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  netted two oh four and scored a touchdown with a long run of forty seven.
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  He averaged nine point seven yards per carry on twenty one carries. Yes,
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  it's not like he had four carries and went for nine point seven.
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  No, So so you add it all up in West Virginia did exactly what
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  it needed to do. It bounces back from the poor Oklahoma game. It
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  guarantees itself a non losing season. Well, actually they guarantee themselves a winning
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  record, not a non losing season. You could go five hundred and have
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  a non losing season. There's seven up and four down, five and three
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  in the league. Next week it's the Baylor Bears. They did not ask
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  three guys before the game what time we wanted to start. No, they
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  did not know. So instead of the eleven am Central that we had been
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  hoping for, we get the seven pm Eastern. Back here, however,
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  if anything has been settled this year by this program, among the many things,
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  Among the many things, is this time listing situation, Luke, if
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  you would, would you put up the graphic that came out late last night
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  and there you go, and our monitors sucks so we can't see it properly
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  because instead of like the ratio it's supposed to be, it's like one too
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  point one two. But anyway, they list every time in the time of
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  where the game takes place. So the West Virginia game, even though it's
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  listed as a six pm Central. They put seven pm Eastern first. It's
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  a great day, that's new because it'd been they put in eastern. Said,
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  so I think we've we've through the weeks. You got it first on
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  the graphic, then you got it correct, and I think as we've finished
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  up the regular season here, I think we've we've broken through. You know,
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  I think quite one where they're to be quite. I hope they're not
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  listening. I think they're over compensating because the Baylor West Virginia should say six
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  Central, seven Eastern, but I'm not gonna know it shouldn't because it's never
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  It's never listed that way. You always list it in Eastern first, then
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  Central, then Mountain. As you're moving across the time zones left to right
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  on your screen, you everybody for the history of TV listings has listed it
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  Eastern time first. So no they are that they're finally doing it correctly now.
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  So it made me kind of hortal because the Oklahoma State game is listed
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  Central Mountain, so they don't say anything about the East. They just go
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  Central Mountain. So we did it. We fixed it finally with help of
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  friend. Yeah, Ren helpful. Ren was huge. I mean Ren was
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  huge in that. There's no question. I mean, you got to give
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  credit where credits due. Ren was, Rehn was the Johnny Apples all credit
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  credit for the crowdsourcing, for the for the listeners as well. They took
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  over a bunch of threads throughout the year at poor Big Twelve. They put
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  that time out there and it got ratioed right underneath it with Mountaineer people asking
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  for Eastern time. All right, that's not why we're here, but I
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  just wanted to point that out seven o'clock for WVU Baylor, you know,
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  real quick, real quick, before we get into our our opening statements here,
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  just want to point something out. You mentioned they're secured to winning.
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  Rec If I have this correct, someone texted me this last night, and
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  I think they're right on the money. If WESTERNI wins next week at Baylor,
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  just the third time since joining the Big Twelve that West Virginia will have
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  won at least eight regular season games. They talk about having a nice bounce
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  back season, extceeding expectations. It's pretty good. It can be the third
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  team since joining the league to get eight regular season wins. Yeah, that's
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  in play, it is, all right, So let's bust this thing down.
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  Hoppy takeaway. Well, let's think about what maybe the goals were yesterday
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  and see if these boxes get checked. I'm going to run through some things.
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  Sure, Hey, did WU win the game? Yes? The WVU
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  win a conference game? Yes? Right? Did they win in convincing fashion?
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  Did the Mountaineers bounce back with one of their better performances after one of
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  their worst performances? Yes? Did the seniors or fifth year players or whatever
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  you call them? Now? Did they go out with a home win?
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  Yes? Was the defensive line dominant? Did they hold Horry Kiner in check?
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  Yes? Fifty seven yards. Did Garrett Green follow up one of his
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  most disappointing performances with one of his best? Yes? Did you see the
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  full potential of Jeheim White? Yes? Did Don Eland receive his appropriate honor?
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  Yes, We're fans rewarded for coming out on a cold day as a
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  holiday week got in a way. Yes. Did West Virginia secure a winning
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  regular season? Yes? As West Virginia exceeded expectations as set by Las Vegas.
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  Yes. Did Rin Baker breathe a sigh of relief because he's looking for
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  reasons to keep Neil Brown and not have to answer as many questions about Jimbo
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  Fisher. Yes, all those boxes were checked yesterday two more he held the
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  Big twelves leading quarterback rusher in check. You also beat your Big twelve conference's
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  biggest rival in cincinnatamat of your list? Yeah so point being. One of
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  my favorite movies is Gladiator, and the Russell Crowe character says at some point,
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  are you not entertained? Was the not I mean? Wasn't just everything
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  you want when you seek to be entertained in mountaineer nation? Yesterday? Everything
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  was there. You got everything yesterday, including sunshine, little cold, a
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  lot of sunshine. You got everything you could possibly want in that game.
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  That's Hopi's take, very good center. Yeah, I think that's well said.
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  Hop. I mean you just totally dominated for the second straight home game,
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  lined up in a game that we spent all weeks saying, well,
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  I don't know, they can run it pretty well. I don't know.
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  I'm not sure about this. Oh the line's moving against you yesterday on a
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  big game. Oh, I don't and you just lined up punch them right
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  in the face. That was never a game. That was absolutely never a
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  game ran for four bills on them. Unbelievable that that was the fifth ranked
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  rushing defense in the Big Twelve. You just lined up punched them right square
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  in the face and did that. Here's the other thing I think you talk
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  about some overarching themes throughout the season. You just went for four bills on
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  a team that had been pretty good against run defense, and you didn't have
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  your starting line right. Just start to speak to some depth and you start
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  to look ahead a little bit next year on what potentially you have you lined
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  up this year, And I'll have to go back and try and add these
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  up. It's going to be hard, but it's not many. The number
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  of snaps you had with your complete offensive line and a healthy Garrett Green starting
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  quarterback, there's not many of those because the beginning of the season he didn't
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  have Green. Middle of the season, he didn't have all of your line
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  pieces. When you got the line pieces back together, they only lasted a
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  few plays in those games before you had to bring some people in. So
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  credit to the entire offensive line unit, not just the starting guys, but
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  guys that have filled in and were able yesterday to absolutely roll dominating performance.
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  Yeah, so someone brought this Someone brought this up. As you said,
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  Hoppy, and I'm looking back here, the offensive line woes that Neil inherited
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  were epic. Yeah, and his first year on the ground, they averaged
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  seventy three yards. Oh they lock all that season was could you get to
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  one hundred yard dressing? Correct? They averaged seventy three And to your point,
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  I just kind of I'm just gonna do this. If this thing behaves
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  nicely and works well, I wanted to kind of watch. I think we
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  could probably build a pretty nice graph of the thing going up. But to
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  your point, Brad, they gained under twelve hundred yards that entire season.
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  Yesterday, as you said, they amped up over four hundred yards. His
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  second yard or second season, he went up to one hundred and thirty five
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  yards per game. So it's kind of just continued to climb up there.
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  Yeah, because you've built it. That's what he came in first and said,
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  all right, I gotta build the offensive line. That led to you
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  talk about a first full circle moment that led to Zach Frasier's commitment, deciding
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  to stay home and come here and becoming the first freshman in well over forty
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  years to start on the offensive line play his whole career, be an absolutely
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  dominant performer. By the time he was he was done. We say all
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  the time, when you make plays when you're a baby, you're probably gonna
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  be pretty good. Yeah he did, didn't he? There were multiple times
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  as freshman year where we went on, did you see that? All right?
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  This guy's got a chance for him to be able to walk yesterday,
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  he's headed off to the NFL to make his name there. For him to
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  finish up the way he did at home in a dominant running performance like that,
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  I thought that was a perfect cherry on top for his career for a
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  kid that listened, came as part of a rebuild, took the most important
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  part of that team and helped grow it up, and then to finish as
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  the most dominant part of the offense. Could have left at some point,
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  talk about trans report, We're gonna talk about money in a ni ele a
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  minute, could have left, didn't, decided to stay home and was a
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  valuable piece of finishing off with a dominating rush performance to end it. You
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  can say it now. I mean he had a heavy, heavy money offer
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  from Alabama. Oh did he yes? In the off season to go oh
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  he did, Yes, he did, and he didn't and he stayed.
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  And right now, as of last yesterday, this offensive line is now averaging
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  two thirty three on the ground basically four xd. Pretty good from where they
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  were in year number one. Okay, so yeah, that was another big
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  point. We'll get into textual healing and a bunch of different thoughts, and
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  one last thing before we start to dive into some things. Credit the defense
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  too. Yes, the defense got absolute embarrassed at Oklahoma. There was a
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  lot of talk all week about them. They turned around and put forth a
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  really good effort, especially early when that game was decided. Guys, I
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  thought it was I thought it was pretty telling early Scott Sadderfield two different times
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  had a fourth and less than one and did not go for it early in
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  that game, which I was stunned thrilled for West Virginia. We were talking
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  about it on our broadcast. I breathe a sigh of relief when they did
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  not. I couldn't understand why he was doing that. A three win team
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  on the road try and win the game. I know both those times you
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  were in your own territory, but that was a stunner that told me early
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  on. Okay, West Virginia's got this game that they're afraid to even try
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  anything here. West virgin has got this game. So credit the defense for
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  being very very good early and making life difficult for Cincinnati. Lee Koba led
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  West Virginia defensively, had ten tackles including a sack. Anthony Wilson eight tackles,
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  Beanie Bishop five tackles. And as you said, Hoppy, you don't
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  know what to call Senior Day anymore either. There are only twelve guys that
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  walked. Twelve guys at walk. I talked to the great Michael Baker,
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  the touchdown maker, on Friday night at the don Naland reception, twenty seven
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  guys his class. You're concerned these days is not as much about those who
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  walk on Senior Day as those who walk on non senior Day. Yeah,
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  theydraortal no longer. You've used up your eligibility. It's just what offers are
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  coming. And again, you know, I don't know who Jahem White has
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  around him for his folks, but I guarantee there were some calls or texts
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  coming in last night. I guarantee Jehem White's going to field some offers.
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  We'll talk about what happens next on the nf NIL side of things, because
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  the West Virginia folks here have some work to do on that side of it.
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  You just mentioned, I think that number you said right there, Tony,
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  tells you something. How many people walked twelve. That tells you you've
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  got a bunch of people that are potentially coming back here for this team.
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  And we can go down on there. We're a bunch of freshmen and red
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  shirt freshmen, but there are also other folks that aren't freshmen that need to
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  be retained, and it is hoppy. We spent a lot of time talking
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  about this yesterday. The retention is no longer just on the coaches. In
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  fact, I would say the bulk of the responsibility of that is not the
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  coaches as it once was. If we're going to play in this pay for
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  play world that we're in right now, and you can complain all you want
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  about it and say it's not right and say you don't like it, doesn't
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  matter. That's the world you live in. And if the world you're living
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  in is pay and the way you're going to pay players is through these different
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  collectives that schools have. West Virginia has one collective, so the country Roads
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  trust, it's going to be incumbent upon them to be out here starting should
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  have already started, but throughout the off season here having enough in the bank
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  account hobby that you can pay these players that are coming back in West Virginia
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  has a chance to bring a bunch of them back, but they're going to
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  field offers from other schools. You better be able to have the dollars to
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  match it. We started, Tony Bread started on our program yesterday in our
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  broadcast a fundraising drive for listeners one eight hundred keep the player. So we're
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  eforting that well. I talked to Neil about it last week. And once
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  the season is over, that's a dead week. So the week after the
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  Baylor game is a dead week for all coaches. But what has become is
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  player retention week. So that's when you go back and you bring all of
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  your players in that you want to keep, and you have meetings with them.
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  Their position coach meets with them, the head coach you know if it
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  gets if he gets involved based on who it is, and you have to
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  say okay, because the next week the portal opens and you need to try
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  to lock in and retain. And to your point, retention potentially is as
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  important as recruitment at this point because you have a really nice more. You
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  know, you have a really nice nucleus. Can you keep CJ. Donaldson
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  and Jaheim White together so that you go into next season with a really nice
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  tandem of running backs and among others, Wyatt Milam's gonna get significant calls.
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  Can you keep Wyatt Milam home that line? You have a chance. If
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  you can get the dollars together, you have a chance to keep that line
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  relatively intact. Now you lose a massive piece in Zach Fraser. But if
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  you keep Milam, if you keep Remac, if you keep a Yates,
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  if Nick Malone decides to come back for another year, which he's eligible to
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  do, and plug him in. You saw Sully Weedman play some snaps yesterday
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  that you can roll in if that line stays intact with a couple pieces behind
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  it to back up, and you only have to go into the market and
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  look for a center, a proven center. Okay, that's pretty good.
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  Your receivers, receivers two through five come back. You saw Rodney Gallagher get
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  fed a bunch yesterday. He's gonna be a dynamic playmaker. But guess what,
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  you better go keep him too. There's gonna be calls coming. Hudson
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  Clement Preston Fox, go right down the list of guys you need to keep
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  that offensive unit if you do it right and you go raise some money.
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  You've got to have some people out there raising money. If they go get
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  the dollars and that offense can remain intact, then you can focus your efforts
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  on the defensive side. It's going to have to replace some guys a Beingie
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  Bishop of Malachai Roff and a Marcus Floyd Ali Koba. There's some playmakers on
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  defense that are gone, so you're going to have to do work there.
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  This to me is an ultra important offseason for the fundraising side of Mountaineer football.
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  And that doesn't necessarily just mean the internal people that the trust has got
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  to go get the dollars to keep these guys in place. And also it's
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  the first year that West Virginia has a general manager by title going into this.
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  Drew Fabianisch was with US earlier this season, and this is where he
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  is evaluating what's here and evaluating potentially what is going to be available out there.
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  And now it gets real, real fast. And as we said,
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  next week not this one. The week after is dead as far as recruiting.
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  That's trying to keep the ones here that you want to keep. And
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  then the week after that hoardell opens at some point there and then you just
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  kind of hold on to your fanny and hope that everything stays the way you
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  want it to stay. But it won't. Invariably, Guys are gonna leave.
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  There's gonna be some headshakers. There's gonna be are you kidding me?
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  There's gonna be a lot of why you're gonna have that's just gonna happen,
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  So get ready for it, all right, and then you better be ready
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  to poach when that happens. When you get one of the oh my gosh,
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  and you better be ready and have enough dollars that you go in and
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  you pull somebody else out to make that team go, oh my gosh,
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  we just lost some to West Virginia. Yeah, that's part of the you're
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  got hoppy, You're gonna get poached. You better start poaching. You know
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  What's again, what is really hard about this discussion, which is so relevant,
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  is that you don't know how much is in the uh inniel trust.
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  I mean you don't know. I mean you kind of have a rough idea
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  of how much you think you need, maybe think you need somewhere in the
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  four to five million range, but you don't know how much there is,
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  or the fundraising effort and how much people. So you just that's it makes
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  it hard to have a to have. We can talk about it in generality,
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  but you can't talk about it in specifics. I shared with you the
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  conversation that I had on Friday before we started recording with a former Power five
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  Division one head coach. Right, well, I mean I don't need to
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  say his name, right anyway, we were talking about a running back that
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  was being recruited by a school, high school senior running back. So I
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  was talking to a coach Power five coach today, Yeah yeah, yeah,
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  right, So I was talking to a Power five coach on Friday, and
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  who's got West Virginia ties and no longer here, but he's recruiting a kid
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  to a massive Power five program and high school senior. They're recruiting them.
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  They think they got this running back. Georgia comes in high school senior and
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  gives them one point one million dollars, gives them one point one million dollars.
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  Probably a Heisman candidate this year went for a thousand. Yeah, you
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  give them a million dollars, you probably went for a thousand. Probably not.
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  So that is the world that we're living in, and until until we
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  figure out the new normal of how this is going to be controlled, because
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  eventually you'll get some kind of restrictions or some workable system. Because there are
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  there's a finite number of elites, there's more. There's more in that middle
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  than there is the elite. The middle at some point will have enough voice
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  to say, wait a second, we got to figure this thing out.
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  But it could just be what the market bears. I was gonna say,
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  yeah, but the problem is that you're right to there's maybe only a certain
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  number of elite players. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if the
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  market is going to skew and say, Okay, this guy hasn't taken a
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  snap, We're going to pay them a million dollars. Okay, that's what
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  the market is. Maybe it defies common sense, but if that's what the
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  market is, that's the world in which you got to compete. However,
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  I don't see how West Virginia and most other schools can compete in that market.
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  Yeah. But here's the thing, guys, It just it's following the
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  path of coaching salaries too. That there's some coaches in schools that are paying
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  coaches that you think, what are you talking about here? Again, your
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  A and M and you're giving Jimbo seventy five million to not come in and
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  you're gonna be bummed out because you spend a little more on a running back
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  that didn't work out. That's the cost of doing business. Man. There's
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  schools all over the place that are dumping millions of dollars into coaching staffs that
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  don't work out. Cost of doing business. That's what it is. And
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  again we don't need to rehash the should they or shouldn't they? I mean,
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  Jahem White don't deserves some dollars for an entity that's making an industry that's
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  making billions of dollars. Garrett Green undeserves some doll Yeah, of course they
• 22:41
  do. So you're gonna miss on some and you're gonna overpay on some.
• 22:45
  But here's the deal. As long as you want to be in the big
• 22:47
  boy football, you better turn out to have big boy money, you better
• 22:49
  go get the dollars, so you better figure it out. Just part of
• 22:53
  the deal. Just need to find one billionaire that will undow something. That's
• 23:00
  all we need. First, get a billion dollars, one billionaire to give
• 23:03
  us one hundred million, make it into a make it into an interesting interestparent
• 23:08
  account, and just pull off of it every year, and you're fine.
• 23:11
  All we need is one billion. If you happen, at the request of
• 23:15
  three guys before the game, if you happen to know a billionaire that would
• 23:18
  be willing to create something, you know, creatively financially, that would take
• 23:23
  one hundred million dollars and put it into a pot that you could pull the
• 23:27
  interest off of annually. It would certainly help West Virginia fair, in't it?
• 23:33
  Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm figuring out the interest right now. Well,
• 23:37
  yeah, pretty good, pretty good? You ready? You're sure?
• 23:45
  How did it look pretty good? Really good? Yeah? Got some interesting
• 23:48
  things. Yeah, there's some stuff that made you go oooh. If you
• 23:52
  had one hundred million dollars, yeah, and uh, you just had got
• 23:56
  five percent returns. That's five million dollars. Yeah, let me take care
• 24:00
  of and you're gonna get more than five percent, so I check the numbers.
• 24:04
  I'll just go right to the numbers of year. Let's jump into the
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  the numbers. It's a commonly CPA Group value beyond the numbers. Appreciate something
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  too, as we often do in the Sunday segment. Let's take a look
• 25:11
  back at what we talked about Thursday, see how we did. Congratulations to
• 25:15
  those listeners of Thursday's episode that knew that Cincinnati came into this game twelve out
• 25:19
  of fourteen teams in opponent quarterback rushing yards, as you heard on Thursday,
• 25:26
  might be a good day for Garrett Green to go off on the ground.
• 25:29
  How did he do on the ground there, Tony? Do you have those
• 25:30
  numbers right in front of How me get that out here? We see rushing
• 25:33
  greens parenthe Garrett Green? Gary, Yeah, this saim eleven tots one five
• 25:38
  to four, one hundred and fifty four yards, three touchdowns long of thirty
• 25:41
  average fourteen pretty good, So we thought Gret Green would have success on the
• 25:45
  ground. That came to fruition. The other part of that discussion was that
• 25:48
  was going to be the game Within the game, Hobby Emma Jones came in
• 25:51
  as the leading quarterback rusher in the conference. He was held to fifty six
• 25:56
  yards. So a lot of things indicated West Virginia dominating was going to win
• 25:59
  that game. I think that was right near the top two teams that wanted
• 26:02
  to run it. Who could run it? The best, who could control
• 26:03
  the running game? Which quarterback that likes to run could run better. West
• 26:07
  Virginia answered in the affirmative for all of those absolutely rolled Cincinnati in that regard.
• 26:14
  The other part flip over to the other side of the ball. This
• 26:15
  trend remains. We talk about it every week. We're going to continue.
• 26:18
  We talked about West Virginia has to keep teams in passing downs. If they
• 26:23
  keep teams in passing downs with the magic number of thirty percent of the time
• 26:26
  or more, they win. Now six and zero with that mark. Six
• 26:32
  of the seven wins have followed that. When West Virginia holds a team to
• 26:36
  being forced into passing downs thirty percent of the time or more, they win.
• 26:41
  Cincinnati fell behind early, had to throw the football forty percent of the
• 26:45
  time Cincinnati was in passing downs. And what happens hoppy? Why is that
• 26:48
  number important? It's not just a stat What does that mean for that number?
• 26:52
  When they're in passing downs and you know they've got to pass? What
• 26:55
  can West Virginia's defense do. They can pressure the passer. And when you
• 26:59
  pressure of the pass or what happens to the back end, it's a little
• 27:02
  easier to guard, Yeah, play some defense back there, it is and
• 27:06
  we saw so if you look at you know, this is one of those
• 27:07
  things. We used to just go with the traditional counting stats of sacks and
• 27:11
  TFLs, which we still look at, but now it's it's pressures and hurries
• 27:15
  and sometimes it doesn't even show up on us that sometimes there's pressure and forces
• 27:19
  a throw and you don't get a number for it. West Virginia had some
• 27:23
  good moments Martin. Shawn Martin got in there and had some early pressure.
• 27:26
  Lockhart with that sack, Cutter forced an intentional grounding. Koba had a sack
• 27:30
  and a quarterback hurry. So West Virginia's at its best upfront when there's multiple
• 27:34
  guys that are coming through there. Kind of the surprising part there. Though
• 27:37
  West Virginia had some success coming through the left side of Cincinnati's offensive line,
• 27:42
  it was their right side for the Bearcats that had had more trouble. West
• 27:45
  Virginia was getting it from all over, just dominated that game. Did they
• 27:48
  put a stat out there for Sean Martin on that illegal procedure against Cincinnati where
• 27:52
  the play kind of went on and Sean just kind of like with two hands
• 27:56
  just pushed their quarterback down. Then he went over picked the kid up,
• 28:00
  kind of felt bad because the flag had been throwing. You just kind of
• 28:03
  gave him a push and the kid went that well, you know and bred.
• 28:04
  As you pointed out numerous times yesterday you and Steve Dunlap, is that
• 28:07
  Cincinnati was not comfortable passing. They were not a team that wanted to pass.
• 28:14
  In that game yesterday, there were multiple times on third and long where
• 28:17
  they just checked down. They didn't they were not interested in trying to have
• 28:18
  their quarterback throw it down field. Because we talked about that was that was
• 28:22
  not good. Emory Jones under pressure has a forty four grade from PFF and
• 28:26
  not on common quarterbacks under pressure don't do well. That was the exact formula.
• 28:30
  Run the ball against Cincinnati. Forced them to have to throw it.
• 28:33
  You're gonna win the game. We talked about that Thursday. That came to
• 28:36
  Fruition. That was an easy one. Cincinnati in the first quarter had a
• 28:40
  zero percent success rate on passing downs. Is that good? I don't think
• 28:44
  that's great. That's not good. West Virginia won that game early and it
• 28:48
  was over pretty quickly right there. So that was those were two big keys
• 28:52
  we talked about, you saw them come to fruition. Some other numbers that
• 28:55
  I just found interesting. Going back to this rushing game, Jem White just
• 28:59
  fantastic yesterday. As we mentioned, how about this one. He had ten
• 29:03
  missed tackles forced versus Cincinnati wown in one game. That's a massive number.
• 29:10
  He made ten people whiff, yes, and they were true whiffs. Sometimes
• 29:14
  the miss tackles you try to arm tackle and you run through it. He
• 29:15
  had some whiffs. If they were playing two hand touch, he's still running
• 29:19
  on some of those. Well, he did as well. And those are
• 29:22
  your two guys that lead the team. But White has now moved into first
• 29:26
  place in that category for the season. Thirty miss tackles forced on the year
• 29:30
  for a guy that doesn't have the carries of some others. So do we
• 29:32
  have to start calling them the elusive Jeheim White? You could do that,
• 29:34
  that would be fair. Yeah, illusive work, yeah yeah. Nine point
• 29:38
  two yards per carry in the game, I mean, just unbelievable for the
• 29:41
  team that works for the team. Kept the ball for thirty five minutes,
• 29:45
  so you had time of possession. Last time westernon he had a two hundred
• 29:48
  yard Rusher. Do you see this justin Crawford back in twenty sixteen? Did
• 29:55
  see that yesterday? Yeah, So good job by Jaheim White getting through that.
• 29:57
  Number. One other note, I'll give Dunlap credit for this. He's
• 30:02
  the one that noticed it first, and he noticed it early. Talked a
• 30:04
  lot about what Oklahoma did last week in something they hadn't put on film.
• 30:10
  Changed the way they were approaching the offensive line with some movement beforehand, and
• 30:14
  West Virginia didn't have an answer for it all game. Yesterday, Neil Brown
• 30:18
  met more an adjustment, went into more gap blocking instead of zone and absolutely
• 30:22
  just mashed up front. So once again another great tweak. You have a
• 30:26
  week to prepare. You got embarrassed the first All right, what's the answer.
• 30:27
  There's an answer to stuff, right, you do this. We're gonna
• 30:30
  do this. They got that fix, went to a new blocking scheme and
• 30:33
  absolutely dominated. So well done, Well done. There. Number that we've
• 30:37
  talked about this one before field position rate, and that's the percentage of plays
• 30:41
  run from the opponent's side of the field fifty eight percent. For West Virginia,
• 30:47
  fifty eight percent of its plays run were done in Cincinnata territory. How
• 30:51
  about that. That's some domination right there. West Virginia's average first down gain
• 30:56
  twelve point eight yards. Can we boy some games if you do that?
• 31:00
  Can we bottle that and take the pick that with us forever? First down
• 31:03
  average gain twelve point eight yards? Are you kidding me? Wow? Pretty
• 31:07
  good? All right? What else do you want to know? That's just
• 31:11
  some numbers that. How about some Garrett Green individual numbers like obviously he passed
• 31:15
  it, well, he ran the ball at a super level. It was.
• 31:21
  You know, that's again going back to the entertaining concept, Tony.
• 31:23
  I'm sure you looked up had some great calls, because it's great to have
• 31:26
  calls when something's big is happening where Garrett Green's just running wild, I mean
• 31:30
  just running. Nobody can catch him. He's running around, guys. I
• 31:33
  mean exciting plays by Garrett Green. You know, one great play design was
• 31:38
  the seventy five yard touchdown pass to Jehema. Oh yeah, let's talk about
• 31:42
  that because what they did was they brought Rodney Gallagher over in motion where he
• 31:48
  has often been the recipient of a jet sweep handoff, but instead they hold
• 31:53
  it back. Now, there's two routes that are going on there, and
• 31:56
  the deep route that Jaheim was running is a long route to get established,
• 32:04
  and that's why Garrett had to hold out of that ball, and he took
• 32:07
  an absolute shot shot. Never saw the ball caught, and White made a
• 32:14
  superb individual athletic play to go get that ball because it was wide made a
• 32:19
  great catch. Wasn't all that why though, I'll give Green credit for that
• 32:22
  reason. He saw the guy bearing down on him, probably through it just
• 32:27
  a half a beat earlier than he wanted. He talked about touch to drop
• 32:30
  it over. I think that was a linebacker that was in front and there
• 32:32
  wasn't a lot of clearance. He gave it a little extra air to let
• 32:36
  White run under it. That was an absolutely beautiful pass. Green really had
• 32:39
  two of them that stood out to me that I think show the potential that's
• 32:44
  coming with him with another year of full time reps. I mean the strides
• 32:49
  he made from what we have seen him before in spot duty to being the
• 32:52
  full time starter and playing it and I'll say it again at an all conference
• 32:55
  level. Kid's been unbelievable this year running and throwing it. That touch pass
• 33:00
  was incredible and the other one when he wound up and threw about a ninety
• 33:04
  nine mile an hour fastball in between three defenders and dropped it right in there.
• 33:08
  That was a one where you went that was a wow. That was
• 33:12
  a wow moment. Neil has talked a good bit this season about Garrett and
• 33:16
  his passing, and the good part about it is, Neil says, a
• 33:22
  lot of it is fundamentals, and its feet and it's hip placement, and
• 33:30
  it's those things. So you just hope that in the off season. You
• 33:34
  know, they just has a wonderful, wonderful off season of just getting those
• 33:37
  things fixed and that will increase his efficiency, no question. You look at
• 33:42
  the drive chart for West Virginia and the opening drive, I'll admit made me
• 33:46
  a little bit what's happening here? You were moving the ball with ease.
• 33:51
  An absolutely horrific miss of a late hit out of bounds on the quarterback greens
• 33:55
  two feet and the white gets hit changes that drive. I think if you
• 34:00
  get that call that you should have. I don't know how that's missed.
• 34:01
  That's got to be on the tape today. An apologies coming from the office,
• 34:05
  and we miss that one. There they probably go down and score,
• 34:07
  but they didn't, and you miss the field goal, so he didn't score
• 34:09
  on that one. Then you go touchdown, touchdown. Then you had to
• 34:13
  punt the one drive where you really didn't do anything three play seven yards,
• 34:15
  then you went touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. And the next one
• 34:20
  where that interception came from Garrett he hasn't had many this year that to you
• 34:23
  know what that felt like to me? That felt like to me, Garrett
• 34:25
  Green going, you know what, I'm making every play. I can make
• 34:28
  every play out here. I'm just gonna try and jam this one right in.
• 34:32
  So you were going to score points on that drive. You could just
• 34:35
  see the confidence meter was at about four billion. He just said, you
• 34:38
  know, I'm gonna try and chance to stroke it. Yeah, So you
• 34:40
  don't score there. Then at the end of the half you kneel down.
• 34:43
  You could have scored on that one. I mean again, there's a million
• 34:45
  ways you can show domination in this game. That drive charts unbelievable. Really
• 34:49
  theoretically should have gotten points on every single drive but one. And also the
• 34:54
  usually when you see that kind of performance where you score that many points,
• 35:00
  you look and you think, okay, the other team must have turned it
• 35:01
  all over. Truth three times. They didn't turn it over. That was
• 35:04
  just an offensive dominance. You didn't get any breaks from them turning the ball
• 35:07
  over in bad positions. I wonder I'd like to do a little step maybe
• 35:10
  someone that's got time on their hands among our listeners. I'd like to know
• 35:15
  what teams records are in the second game of a two game road trip.
• 35:22
  So that was the second game in a row. They were at Houston last
• 35:23
  week, they come here. BYU played respectable in its first game against Texas,
• 35:30
  and then they come to Morgantown the next week and they get boat raced.
• 35:34
  I'm just wondering, like across the league, when you have to play
• 35:37
  two in a row on the road, what's the average outcome of the second
• 35:39
  game. No, that's a legitimate question. I think the variable though it
• 35:43
  has to be a plane adjusted, so but you can take a you can
• 35:46
  take a general thought in general, and you could kind of further break it
• 35:50
  down. But I would just how about BYU. I mean BYU just looked
• 35:52
  looked awful when they came here and then they you know, they were in
• 35:55
  that game of Texas right to the very end. Mashups matter, matchups matter,
• 36:00
  Situation, travel that all that stuff matters, and I think that's that's
• 36:04
  just another reminder that you've got to talk more about that what you do one
• 36:07
  week doesn't necessarily mean it happens the next week. It matters where and who
• 36:10
  you're playing, how they're doing, what their mindset is, and all that
• 36:15
  matters. Matchups matter, That's what That's why I continue to say I thought
• 36:17
  I thought Saturday's game would be closer there too. Yeah, I did too,
• 36:21
  because the two rush offenses against run defenses there. I thought it'd be
• 36:23
  closer. Wasn't you just absolutely wind up and whipped him? Every facet spreads
• 36:31
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• 36:36
  White very good, Green as you would expect Green ninety one three, Jahem
• 36:42
  eighty nine nine, ninety two highest graded offensive players. Let's good. He
• 36:45
  was right up there too, third highest graders. You didn't get a ton
• 36:49
  of snaps, Yeah, he got it. He surprised me that he played
• 36:52
  as much as he did. I mean I saw him practice Friday Friday.
• 36:59
  He was kind of he was kind of carrying that leg with him like that.
• 37:01
  He's probably not gonna be able to go a lot of credit to our
• 37:05
  guy, Malachi Ruffin comes in as the highest rated defender, highest graded defender
• 37:08
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• 37:51
  West Virginia had spent most of the year as a really left handed team,
• 37:54
  which made some sense running behind milem and Remac over on the left hand side.
• 37:59
  But and this speaks to what we were saying in the open there about
• 38:04
  the offensive line becoming more balanced and better across all of the positions yesterday on
• 38:09
  just going over the right tackle position, so not even around the right edge,
• 38:13
  but between the end and the tackle there on the right side. That
• 38:15
  was their biggest area of success. One hundred and seven yards just through that
• 38:20
  particular gap right over there again, Nick, Yeah, so become right handed
• 38:28
  over the last couple of weeks. So now as you're trying to scout that
• 38:30
  you don't know if you're going left, you're going right where you're going the
• 38:32
  other thing, I'll say that that was a really good switch before the season
• 38:37
  to put Nester out at right tackle and move Yates into guard. Both have
• 38:42
  had very very good season. So again credit Matt Moore in the group for
• 38:45
  recognizing that, making a tweak and having it hit with a great deal of
• 38:50
  success. You know, Yates got knocked out early, so Jacque Hubbard's friend
• 38:52
  of our program Size eighteen shows, did a great job, so you think
• 38:58
  about it. During the course of the season, Hubbard has played massively important
• 39:00
  snaps and Nick Malone perhaps the biggest surprise among the backup players, he's become
• 39:06
  a semi starter. Various things have gone on on that offen utility infielder.
• 39:09
  He's played left tackle, he's played right tackle, he's played tight end.
• 39:12
  At times, he's been out Stone. Forget about Hubbard's Hubbard's. Now we've
• 39:15
  come to depend upon pregame inspirational talk to young men. If you go back
• 39:22
  and watch that tape, on each of West Virginia's touchdowns, there were massively
• 39:29
  important blocks that you would normally not you know, you just don't respect you
• 39:35
  just say, oh, you know who scored the touchdown, Traylon Davis on
• 39:37
  Garrett Green's run toward the hospital side of the stadium, Mega, Hudson Clement,
• 39:42
  Trailon Ray had massive blocks. Zach Frazier did no surprise. I mean,
• 39:49
  if you go back and watch, just go watch West Virginia scores,
• 39:52
  you'll see a key block on each of those. To your point, the
• 39:54
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• 44:42
  So that's really neat stuff as well. So popcorn coffee kerchievel, by the
• 44:46
  way, that's going pretty well, is it. I bought three four packs
• 44:52
  reason Thursday for the holiday gift, for a gift for some folks. Okay,
• 44:58
  so I went in there. I felt pretty good about my self going
• 45:00
  over to the Gucci Kroger and pulling out three four packs so is it because
• 45:05
  my wife was looking at the Saberton Kroger was efforting there. Yeah, he
• 45:09
  didn't have any successes. She's got to go to the Gucci Croger. I'm
• 45:13
  not sure if it's sold out. Well, I'm not sure. I mean
• 45:16
  Corey's. I'm sure he's got it over that we can find. Ye,
• 45:19
  I'm sure it's been there. I probably just sold out. Probably hard to
• 45:21
  keep on the shelves. It is flying off the shelves. Yeah. So
• 45:23
  the Christmas catalog has been going well, uh huh yeah, yep, going
• 45:28
  really well. So that's some time getting our bourbon barrels. Make sure,
• 45:30
  hey, seriously, all kidding aside a lot of that stuff. The order
• 45:34
  has got to be in by December the tenth, because there's a ten day
• 45:37
  wait. Like the Bourbon Bear. We we have one being hand delivered to
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  day down kind of Fayetteville. Our guy Dave is driving down there. He's
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  going to hand deliver one of Fayetville. Thank you very much. Three guys
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  more. All right, so textual healing. Can I make a general comment
• 46:46
  of course, thank you. So this is not going to make some people
• 46:52
  happy. But nevertheless, so there seems to be there was a bunch of
• 46:59
  texts in here about coaching change, about Jimbo Fisher, about not happy with
• 47:08
  the quality of wins. So now we've gone from getting enough wins. Now
• 47:15
  we're talking about the quality of wins. And there is a group out there
• 47:17
  that says the quality of the winds aren't good enough because the people that West
• 47:22
  Virginia is beating aren't going to have winning records, or that when they play
• 47:25
  a team that has a winning record that they don't beat them, so Oklahoma,
• 47:34
  Penn State and Oklahoma State, and then obviously the absolute blotch job against
• 47:40
  Houston. So the quality of wins is being questioned. So I think this
• 47:49
  we could sit here and read all those or we can just generally theme that
• 47:52
  discussion because there are some people that are not happy that West Virginia won yesterday.
• 47:59
  True, there are people that are unhappy, and I'm not here to
• 48:04
  change your opinion, but I am here to give you fact, and the
• 48:08
  fact is that Neil Brown will be West Virginia's football coach next year. Now,
• 48:14
  if that makes you bombed out, I'm sorry, but that's the reality
• 48:16
  of it. So for those of you that are sitting there and not happy
• 48:22
  with it, that's that's the world. And it should be a head coach
• 48:25
  next season. Why wouldn't. I mean, it's not even it's off the
• 48:29
  table for discussion, probably has been for a while here. There's just there's
• 48:31
  just no reason to have the discussion here. Let me throw something out that
• 48:35
  that's not complete. Maybe I maybe it's might be able to find something in
• 48:39
  here if you want to go nitpick enough, but can I can I go
• 48:42
  through something here real quick about that as we talk about goalposts that are getting
• 48:45
  moved, but the glass and you got to win more than over the wind
• 48:49
  total, then you do that than if you didn't play anybody. So let
• 48:52
  me let me just run through this. I just found this interesting as we
• 48:55
  as I figured this discussion will come up. But there's seven teams that are
• 48:59
  tied or tied with or have a better record than West Virginia in Big Twelve
• 49:02
  Play. Taking Big Twelve play right now, okay, only three of those
• 49:08
  have a win over a team ranked above them in the league standings. Iowa
• 49:14
  State beat Oklahoma State early in the season, Oklahoma beat Texas and Oklahoma State
• 49:17
  beat Oklahoma. West Virginia has a win over Texas Tech, which it's tied
• 49:22
  with in the standings. The only other one like that, Oklahoma State,
• 49:25
  has a win over k State. They're tied in the standings. Such fifty
• 49:29
  six total games among those teams that I'm talking about, there's only three wins
• 49:35
  in those fifty six games over teams ranked ahead of you in the standings.
• 49:39
  If you want to take Texas out of this discussion, because they're the first
• 49:43
  place team. They don't have anybody above them in the standings that they could
• 49:45
  beat. That's forty nine games, three teams over teams ranked ahead of you,
• 49:51
  two wins over a team that's tied with you. Kansas State has eight
• 49:54
  wins with one to play on the season, has only beaten one team that's
• 49:58
  ball eligible. Oklahoma has nine wins, ranked in the top ten much of
• 50:01
  the early season, they have three wins over Bowl eligible teams. Kansas has
• 50:06
  seven wins and I think they only have two wins over teams that are Bowl
• 50:08
  eligible. So this is what you do. You beat the teams you're supposed
• 50:13
  to beat for the most part, and West has been very good at that,
• 50:15
  save for the Hail Mary. Now, the next evolution in the next
• 50:19
  stage is you pick somebody off. You pick off one of those teams that
• 50:23
  you're not supposed to beat. Did you get one this year? No,
• 50:27
  But you handled your business with everybody else and turned in a season better than
• 50:30
  every prognosticator had. But I guess the point to that is it's really hard
• 50:35
  to beat the teams above you in the standings. The teams that are tied
• 50:37
  with you or above have done exactly what you've done. They've handled their business
• 50:42
  with the teams that are below you in the standings. Has found that an
• 50:45
  interesting that's a research there. The perception, I think by some are that
• 50:51
  there's other teams out there beating all of these teams that are not supposed to
• 50:53
  and for the league in this particular year, that's just not been the case.
• 50:57
  They've been beating the teams below them. I think that's it. I
• 51:00
  think that's those are those are really good stats. Bread. I think that
• 51:04
  really puts puts that really quantifies where things are looking, not just at West
• 51:09
  Virginia but other teams. And this too. Let me restate what what we've
• 51:13
  said many many times that heading into these final three games you lost to Oklahoma,
• 51:16
  that if you had lost the last three, there would be a legitimate
• 51:21
  discussion with the athletic director of Athletics as to whether or not Neil Brown should
• 51:27
  be retained. And part of that discussion, Tony would have been with people
• 51:30
  who who do give to the n I to the nil effort, you know,
• 51:36
  because you got to you got to raise the money. And if there
• 51:38
  was if there was a lot of pressure from some of those key people like
• 51:40
  well I want to give money, but I don't like the way the coaching
• 51:43
  situation is. What about jimbo Fisher. Then the athletic director would have had
• 51:46
  to consider that in deciding what to do. Okay, but that's not what
• 51:52
  happened. What happened is West Virginia bounced back. They've won seven, May
• 51:57
  win eight, May win nine, but they bounced back and they bounce back
• 52:00
  and played a really, really good game. So I think that's all off
• 52:04
  the table. Now, five and one at home, and you pounded your
• 52:08
  last two teams that came in here, and you're trending upward and mean,
• 52:13
  you want to look at it from a glass fuller than full. Take away
• 52:16
  the stupid double two power five opponents, at another win, at another win,
• 52:21
  and take away the hell Mary, and you're sitting here with ten.
• 52:24
  But anyway, like I said, I get this. Trust me when I
• 52:29
  tell you this. You're never going to be able to convince some people.
• 52:32
  So I'm not. I'm not. My job's not to convince you because it
• 52:36
  doesn't matter. You're going to have your opinion. That's totally cool. Fine,
• 52:39
  but anyway, that's what we're doing. One last thing on this,
• 52:42
  so we'll move on because it's not a discussion and there's not going to be
• 52:45
  a change. There's there's there wasn't going to be a change. You were
• 52:47
  going to win one of these games, and you were going to move on.
• 52:51
  Here's the other thing to watch. I know it's really easy to sit
• 52:52
  and scream fire, fire, fire, but you don't do that when you're
• 52:57
  the athletic director, when you're the one making the decision. You're looking for
• 53:00
  multiple things, and our wins one of them, yes, But you're also
• 53:04
  watching the tenor of the team and the interactions with the staff and the team.
• 53:07
  And one of the telltale signs is you've got to see if the messages
• 53:12
  are getting through to the team, are they listening, are they able to
• 53:15
  be coached? And at every point this season, even through losses, this
• 53:19
  team has the attention or this coaching staff has the attention to this team.
• 53:23
  That's been clear. The bounce backs have been there, and I give both
• 53:28
  the coaching staff and the players a lot of credit. And it's hard to
• 53:34
  stay on task and listen to that when there's so much outside noise and people
• 53:37
  flamethrowing, and that's impossible for kids to get away from it. Just is
• 53:43
  It's not like it was twenty years ago where you could shelter and keep some
• 53:46
  of those messages down. They're hearing all that and for that group of players
• 53:51
  to stay focused and listen to coaching and bounce back in those games. That's
• 53:54
  the exact opposite of what happens when you're ready to make a change in your
• 53:58
  program. So take some of the wins and losses out of it. Watch
• 54:00
  how they and I know fans don't do this, that's not their job to
• 54:04
  do this, nor do they even have any idea this is happening. But
• 54:07
  when you're the administrator in charge of that, you're watching exactly that, and
• 54:10
  you're watching those interactions, and there's a reason why this athletic director is down
• 54:15
  on the field next to the team bench right you're seeing those things that Joe
• 54:20
  and Grafton doesn't get a chance to see. And I think all they respected
• 54:22
  Joe. This particular group of folks, players and coaches have done a fantastic
• 54:28
  job there. And it was clear a long time ago in this season that
• 54:30
  this was not going the way that it normally goes when you're making a coaching
• 54:34
  change. I thought it's been obvious for a lot of this year. Jason
• 54:37
  and Parkersburg in Paris over the Easter weekend, just return to the hotel after
• 54:43
  scouting out Jim Morrison's grave in the lobby. Elderly couple checking out of the
• 54:46
  hotel. Lady looks at me and smiles, noticing the flying WV. She
• 54:51
  says, West Virginia. Huh, I live in a town called Parkersburg.
• 54:55
  Love the podcast that's signed by Jason in Parkersburg. Jason also asks this,
• 55:01
  does the Big twelve need a name change? You're gonna have sixteen schools in
• 55:06
  the conference starting next year? Do you change the name Big twelve? You're
• 55:09
  gonna have sixteen? What is the PAC twelve now gonna be the Pac two
• 55:14
  whatever it's gonna be. But yeah, I mean, what about the Big
• 55:15
  twelve? Do you need a name change? No Ah, Brad, No,
• 55:19
  don't care. Big ten had changed the same, either, Texter.
• 55:21
  This football season's been a roller coaster, but one in which truly the football
• 55:24
  gods have smiled upon us. As you can see, TCU's win paid for
• 55:29
  my honeymoon. He sent a ticket where he must that Big definitely no.
• 55:32
  TC's stance on wedding during football season, but I had to make an exception,
• 55:38
  considering my bride and myself both in our thirties. Coaching baseball along with
• 55:43
  swimming takes precedence. Here's hoping the Mountaineers rebound and like the great Bill Belichick
• 55:47
  famously said, we are on the Cincinnati can't wait to finish off the wedding,
• 55:52
  singing country roads like any good West Virginia does, and knowing I'll have
• 55:54
  a victory over the Bearcats to watch on the plane to Jamaica. Blaine and
• 55:59
  Charleston, Happy wedding, I got married. Football season, Yeah you did,
• 56:02
  three guys. How much of a role did athletic director Wren Baker have
• 56:07
  in the Big Twelve partnering with WWE? Any chance he'll be in the ring
• 56:13
  at an event in the future, Ben in North Carolina. I haven't specifically
• 56:17
  talked to him, but Wren was not involved with the World Wrestling Co promotion
• 56:23
  with the championship for the Big twelve football title game. He loves wrestling.
• 56:30
  I mean, I'm not putting out I mean one day, I think in
• 56:32
  a perfect world he has wrestling up here in Morgantown. He's trying to make
• 56:37
  money, He's trying to make money and Texter Heater coming into Heater coming.
• 56:45
  Brad had his worst take of the season Thursday, Cincinnati, Chile, less
• 56:49
  than the sum of its parts, Love the show signed Anonymous ps not hearing
• 56:52
  a lot of last names. Congratulations to a mic from Salem for being so
• 56:57
  brave. You MI like on there this person sign it and you're pretty interesting,
• 57:00
  Anonymous dead wrong, Texas is pretty interesting. Let's discuss Cincinnati style chili.
• 57:07
  It had its day at the US Senate nineteen seventy four. Generally acknowledged
• 57:13
  that the Great Chili Debate commenced when Senator Barry Goldwater, represent Republican of Arizona
• 57:19
  took umbrage at the menu of the National Press Club, which had slipped real
• 57:22
  Texas chili onto the club's dinner offerings. Goldwater asserted that Arizona's chili was superior.
• 57:29
  Senator John Tower, Republican Texas, rebutted, and the debate was on.
• 57:34
  Senator Robert A. Taff Junior Republican, Ohio, put both Texas and
• 57:37
  Arizona in their place with a speech on the floor of the Upper House in
• 57:40
  which he asserted each Tower and Goldwater like in the other chili to barnyard apples
• 57:45
  and possibly spoke. Both both spoke truly. The only real chili comes from
• 57:50
  Cincinnata. Funny story two thousand and five West Virginia Cincinnati game in Cincinnata Mountaineer
• 57:58
  fielder. Most other venue use West Virginia played did not sell beer yet.
• 58:02
  A couple more years before beer became common. However, Nippered Stadium sold beer.
• 58:07
  They had one beer booth on the concourse. It's full of mountaineer fans,
• 58:13
  constant line leading up the steps to enjoy this novelty. I got to
• 58:16
  the booth to find two sweet but elderly women working in that booth, Edna
• 58:21
  and Madge. They seemed tired, they seemed flustered. Madge turned to Edna
• 58:25
  and said, Edna, what is going on here tonight? I've worked here
• 58:30
  twenty six years. We've never been this business. Edna shook her head in
• 58:36
  frustration as she wrestled another keg in the place. The mountaineers are here well
• 58:42
  documented at West Virginia. When they go on the road and they will sell,
• 58:45
  they'll sell some. Well, you know that was Stephen Patton Tornado TEXTA.
• 58:49
  I always thought Vienna sausages were more of a cousin to potted meat than
• 58:52
  spam. Probably can give you that, Texter. Hello, first time Texter.
• 58:55
  Wanted to get your thoughts on the NCAA granting Howard transfer seth Towns a
• 59:00
  waiver for an eighth year of college basketball. Find it fish. It seems
• 59:06
  like West Virginia players have been met with opposition when they allow players like this
• 59:08
  more eligibility. Uh, don't try to figure it out, Texter. Three
• 59:15
  guys, this is Aj in Historic South Park, formerly the real Morgan in
• 59:19
  Morgantown. It's fun when the Mountaineers win, but what's more fun is enjoying
• 59:22
  the fruits of the best collaboration in sports. Three guys before the game and
• 59:25
  Rusty from Mountaineer roasting a match made in almost heaven. There you go,
• 59:30
  there's our coffee. It's the game day grind. Thank you, t dub
• 59:35
  and Barbersville. Who is that from? A person that used to be Ajel
• 59:38
  And this person used to be known as Morgan and Morgantown now AJ in South
• 59:42
  I have met AJ at the last basketball game. Came up and said he
• 59:45
  was the original Morgan in Morgantown. What couldn't verify that? Very nice by
• 59:50
  the way while we're here, two quick shout outs from the Coliseum basketball game
• 59:52
  the other day. Uh huh Cooper younger fan, what's that mean? Helps
• 59:57
  skew our demographics down on what is a how old high school? Early college?
• 1:00:01
  That's fine, you know usually when I say that on the air,
• 1:00:04
  I've missed horribly on those. And then Launas McManus, who McGuinness sorry,
• 1:00:08
  lnnas McGinnis wawnas Yeah, Bridgeport Huh thanks guys, fellows the key status listen
• 1:00:15
  t t dub and Barbersville Fellows. The key stat will prove victory in West
• 1:00:19
  Virginia's last two conference games in the bowl game will be Brad Howe tweeting five
• 1:00:23
  and a half tight end touchdown catch, tight end touchdown catch signed by Fred
• 1:00:29
  Cole Taylor. What was that? Over and on your head on that?
• 1:00:31
  I've got to go back and look, we're over on a bunch of those
• 1:00:34
  things. I had that exact what he wrote right there, was up,
• 1:00:37
  had it ready to tweet, was about to hit it when they called that
• 1:00:40
  touchdown catch back on Cole Taylor. That was all that was a hell of
• 1:00:45
  a leg whip. It's a great pass. That was catch. That was
• 1:00:47
  a Conrad Dobler leg whip. That kid's lucky his leg didn't break because he
• 1:00:51
  caught him right in the shin Texter, I heard you mentioned me on your
• 1:00:55
  last episode. Oh this is a trained guy from up there in Pennsylvania.
• 1:00:59
  I'm still listening all the time to you guys. But we decided not to
• 1:01:01
  attend any away train rides this year. We will be in our seats yesterday.
• 1:01:07
  We had season tickets since eighty one. My first game at Old Mountain
• 1:01:08
  Airfield was a kid in seventy. I've attended about a dozen Bowl games.
• 1:01:13
  I might add another this season. However, we do have an upcoming train
• 1:01:15
  trip. We're booked on Amtrak's Auto train in February. We simply drive over
• 1:01:21
  from Morgantown to DC to put our car on. The train leaves around sundown.
• 1:01:25
  Next morning we're in Florida. Now we have our own car to explore
• 1:01:30
  Florida for three weeks, no dealing with I ninety five traffic. One special
• 1:01:32
  thing we did this year was the twenty dollars tour of the facilities building Pushcar
• 1:01:37
  Center on Friday evenings before the home game. New offering by the Athletic Department,
• 1:01:42
  very much enjoyed seeing all the behind the scenes stuff most fans never get
• 1:01:46
  to see, such as the locker room, weight room, cafeteria, meeting
• 1:01:50
  room, lounge, barber shop. You mentioned, by the way, the
• 1:01:52
  tech the Utah game by train. I've already looked into it. We're going
• 1:01:57
  to drive up to Connellsville, catch the Capital Limited to Chicago, hop on
• 1:02:00
  the California Zephyr to Salt Lake. Need to leave on Wednesday evening. Train
• 1:02:06
  stops in Connellsville nine forty seven at night in order to arrive Friday night eleven
• 1:02:09
  oh five Mountain Times Salt Lake City. Keep up the good work, all
• 1:02:14
  three of you. That's signed by David Kurtz. He's our train guy.
• 1:02:16
  Good text head spreads on stats. How many trees do I have? Signed
• 1:02:22
  by Glenn and Scott Depot? Those are Receis trees. He has all those.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah, I counted him. He's got two hundred and sixteen eighteen packages.
• 1:02:34
  There's two boxes there, two hundred and sixteen strong, three guys rich
• 1:02:37
  from Indianapolis. Here I have a three guys don neel and talk line causation
• 1:02:42
  correlation story twenty years ago Hoppy's coffee Clatch radio program. He's still doing that
• 1:02:49
  Mondays and Fridays. He directly presented me with an opportunity to meet the coach
• 1:02:53
  in my hometown of Logan. Neilon was scheduled at a Friends of Cole rally
• 1:02:58
  in support of a Valley philp At the mind I was employed. I'd been
• 1:03:01
  opining my support for the permit. I received an invitation to join Hoppy on
• 1:03:06
  that radio thing. Fortunately, I survived the interrogation from Hoppy and I even
• 1:03:09
  got to chuck a out of the host along the way. That evening at
• 1:03:13
  the rally, Coach Neeland tracked me down so he could tell me how proud
• 1:03:15
  he was of my appearance and to shake my hand. A very fond memory,
• 1:03:20
  to say the least. So in conjunction with Don Neeland's tribute, I'd
• 1:03:22
  like to offer a small tribute to mister Kirschavelle and say thanks for both opportunities.
• 1:03:25
  Great show, Thank you, Thank you Texter. I'm tired of all
• 1:03:37
  the Jimbo Fisher talk. Couldn't care, couldn't if he couldn't win at Texas
• 1:03:39
  A and M one of the biggest budgets in all college football, one of
• 1:03:43
  the most well funded nil collectives and the quality and the quantity of Texas high
• 1:03:46
  school recruits, and what in the hell is he going to ever accomplish at
• 1:03:50
  West Virginia with fewer resources and more difficult recruiting. I like Brown and hope
• 1:03:54
  it works out. But if West Virginia is going to move on, they
• 1:03:59
  are better off trying to find the next Neilan or Rodriguez than going after a
• 1:04:01
  coach you couldn't win when literally everything was in place for n be successful JD
• 1:04:05
  in the Southern Coalfield Tony. A comment about that is that, and I'm
• 1:04:10
  not all due respect to Jimbo Fisher. I don't know Mabby's got to follow
• 1:04:14
  his career. I know he's West Virginian obviously, but that in West Virginia,
• 1:04:17
  where a small state, we have some levels, we have high levels
• 1:04:21
  of insecurity, and anyone who has any connection at all to West Virginia we
• 1:04:27
  really cling to right and I think sometimes we elevate them just because they are
• 1:04:32
  from West Virginia. Number one. Number two is that Jimbo Fisher. I
• 1:04:39
  saw a stat last night because they were talking about some way they were talking
• 1:04:42
  about he had two years ago. I had the number one recruiting class in
• 1:04:45
  the country, number one in the country. They have unlimited resources, and
• 1:04:50
  as Brad said, they're paying them seventy five million dollars seventy five million dollars
• 1:04:55
  not to coach those players from that number one recruiting class two years ago.
• 1:05:00
  The third point is that in terms of loyal West Virginians, yesterday Don Neeland
• 1:05:04
  was honored. There's no more loyal West Virginian than Don Neelon, who's not
• 1:05:09
  from here, who's not from here, but came here, built a program
• 1:05:14
  and stayed here. You don't have to be from here. It's a nice
• 1:05:16
  touch if you are, you don't have to be from here. Texter glad
• 1:05:20
  to see Coach neland being honored at the stadium. My only interaction with Coach
• 1:05:25
  was when I was in school working at the Gucci Kroger. That was until
• 1:05:29
  I quit when they told me I could only get one home game off a
• 1:05:30
  year. Anyway, Coach would come in and get the same order at the
• 1:05:34
  deli tavern Ham if you're wondering, and it had to be from a new
• 1:05:39
  piece. Anytime I saw him coming, I would just go back and get
• 1:05:42
  a new one, no matter how fresh. The current one was one day
• 1:05:45
  I was fetching the freshest piece of tavern ham for coach. A new employee,
• 1:05:47
  not knowing who he was, was waiting on him, went to take
• 1:05:50
  his order and he pulled out the one from the case. He was like,
• 1:05:55
  nip, noop, I don't want that one, and he points to
• 1:05:58
  behind the person to me he's standing in there with the new one. I
• 1:06:00
  want that one. I finish helping him and he thanks me for always remembering
• 1:06:03
  his order. The only person the other person said, who was that?
• 1:06:06
  I said, it's obvious you aren't from West Virginia. That's Coach Neilan.
• 1:06:10
  As far as I'm concerned, he gets whatever he asks for. Signed by
• 1:06:13
  Brad a dislocated West Virginia in Carroll County, Maryland. Well done, was
• 1:06:17
  that, Nott? I mean, I know you were there Friday night,
• 1:06:19
  Tony, and then Saturday? Was that not? Just great? Mind blower?
• 1:06:24
  Friday night? Was? It was like I was living in a dream
• 1:06:28
  of all those guys, and some of those guys I'm sure you had not
• 1:06:30
  seen for years and years and years, and you see him now twenty thirty
• 1:06:32
  years later. Ay Man, how about this story? So there was a
• 1:06:38
  linebacker he's from in state here named Jeff Casto that played in the mid eighties.
• 1:06:43
  Okay, Chris Herring, who became a captain of the Mountaineer undefeated team,
• 1:06:48
  A great, great linebacker. He's a true freshman. Chris is telling
• 1:06:54
  me his story. He said, Now, this is back when strength and
• 1:06:56
  big was everything. He walks into the linebacker room for the first time.
• 1:07:00
  Jeff Casto sees him, doesn't say anything, just looks at him, just
• 1:07:04
  looks at him. Walks up to him and goes, that's the skinniest neck
• 1:07:10
  I've ever seen in my life. And he said fix it. And Chris
• 1:07:15
  went like, that's all he said. He said, fix it, he
• 1:07:17
  said. Chris said, I did neck every day for a year. He
• 1:07:21
  said, my sophomore year, I had a twenty I had a twenty one
• 1:07:26
  inch neck. But is that the greatest line ever? He said, that's
• 1:07:30
  the skinniest neck I've ever seen? Fix it was that in the eighties.
• 1:07:33
  Yes, it's a very big eighties get neck. But also remember a different
• 1:07:38
  time. And what did Neeland and that staff and that great staff who stayed
• 1:07:43
  with him for years and years I done. Laff was with him for nineteen
• 1:07:45
  years. What did they do, Brad, they got guys in what they
• 1:07:46
  do when they got him developed. Ronaldo Turnbull was there. You think he
• 1:07:50
  got developed right? All those offensive lineman. Oh goodness, Texter. In
• 1:07:57
  honor of Coach Kneeling, I thought I would recount how this photo took place
• 1:08:00
  Atlanta, New Year's Eve, twenty twenty two, Ohio State West Virginia or
• 1:08:05
  Ohio State Georgia playoff game. My wife and I are visiting the Hall of
• 1:08:09
  Fame. I'm wearing my West Virginia's stuff. Security guard meets me with you
• 1:08:12
  just missed coach kneeling. Huh. He could see the disappointment on my face,
• 1:08:15
  and then, like a scene out of the line of fire, he
• 1:08:17
  radios out, does anyone have eyes on coach kneeling? Anyone have eyes on
• 1:08:23
  coach kneeling? The response comes back, coach has been spotted on two West.
• 1:08:27
  The guard directs us to the location and we meet with coach Nielan,
• 1:08:30
  who responded as though he was just as excited to see us. He could
• 1:08:33
  have not have been more considerate and engaging. As we chatted, he told
• 1:08:36
  us that this was his first time there. There is coach kneeling with the
• 1:08:41
  guy at the Hall of Fame last year. That's a great story. He
• 1:08:44
  deserves every honor being bestowed upon him. Brian from Herk, you know,
• 1:08:48
  that's one of the of all the great things about him. And obviously the
• 1:08:51
  on field exploits. What he did for this program, what he did for
• 1:08:54
  the brand, what he did for the legacy of the program, getting you
• 1:08:57
  in the Big twelve. I think that's the part. Yeah, maybe most
• 1:09:00
  surprising, but the role that he is taking on from a retirement until now
• 1:09:08
  right, Yeah, he stayed. He didn't head to Florida and live there
• 1:09:11
  the rest of the time. He stayed here. You see him. He's
• 1:09:14
  accessible and how many people have those stories of meeting him and how much he's
• 1:09:18
  willing to engage. I think that's one of his lasting legacies of his post
• 1:09:23
  retirement. Yeah. Oh, he's at the Kroger and he's lived here.
• 1:09:27
  He's now been retired longer than he coached. Yeah, that's amazing too.
• 1:09:30
  You know. Kyle Wiggs told an interesting story on broadcast yesterday Tony that when
• 1:09:33
  when don Eland was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame, when it
• 1:09:36
  was in South Bend and we all went out there. Remember, sure,
• 1:09:39
  do. We went there and Wiggs went out there, and so we had
• 1:09:43
  a you know, we did special shows and things. So coach new and
• 1:09:46
  sees Kyle and says, hey, what are you doing here? I says,
• 1:09:50
  coach, You're going into college Football Hall of Fame. And he said,
• 1:09:54
  oh, I didn't think it was that big of a deal. You
• 1:09:56
  know, he was always he was. He really had a sense. He
• 1:09:59
  had a great sense, either intentionally bright or intentionally of who he was,
• 1:10:03
  right, he never let it get bigger. No, and who he was.
• 1:10:09
  Who he was was the football coach. It wasn't the celebrity part of
• 1:10:13
  the job, right, That's what he was, right, So I think
• 1:10:15
  the celebrity part of it always kind of huh, that's surprised you because he
• 1:10:18
  was a football coach. Yeah, that's what he was and had a very
• 1:10:23
  significant role for years in College Football Coaches Associations. Was head of the association
• 1:10:29
  at one point and knew everybody, knew everybody, Thank goodness, he knew
• 1:10:32
  Chuck Ninus. Yeah. I was just going to say that that role,
• 1:10:35
  as important as it was to don Neelan's career, is maybe the point to
• 1:10:41
  the legacy of this football program being where it is today as part of the
• 1:10:44
  power. What will now before is because of that relationship, the relationship with
• 1:10:48
  Ninus and the ability to get you into the Big twelve when you didn't have
• 1:10:51
  a lot of other support lined up and not a lot of other connections were
• 1:10:55
  made there. That was one that was made Texter late nineteen seventies. My
• 1:10:58
  family takes me a sense in that. From Charleston to see Evil Knievel make
• 1:11:01
  his world record jump of fourteen greyhound buses at King's Island, we stopped at
• 1:11:05
  Frish's Big Boy in Ohia, somewhere between Portsmouth and Cincinnata. I ordered spaghetti,
• 1:11:12
  That's what I normally ordered at our Shonies Big Boy in Charleston. Well,
• 1:11:15
  when it comes to the table, I'm presented with a plate of overdone
• 1:11:17
  pasta and on top of it was chili with beans which had a strong dose
• 1:11:21
  of chili powder. I about lost my mind. I refused to eat it.
• 1:11:26
  Well, at ten years old, I don't stand much of a chance
• 1:11:28
  of getting a reorder. Mom offers to trade me or sandwich, which I
• 1:11:31
  refuse, and then Dad gave me that look, took me by the ear,
• 1:11:34
  gave it a twist and said eat it. Expletive delete it. I'll
• 1:11:38
  never forget that, and I never to this day want to see another plate
• 1:11:41
  of chili spaghetti ever again. Joe in New Mexico, Texter Zach Fraser should
• 1:11:45
  get twenty six yards rushing on the last pride of the third quarter. He's
• 1:11:48
  carrying the ball with White. Fraser's carrying White, Therefore Fraser's carrying the ball.
• 1:11:54
  Roger in Maine, Texter, get the Jaheim White? Nil money ready,
• 1:11:58
  I have a feeling to get the calls. Yet we talked about Texter.
• 1:12:00
  Maybe there was a reason Jehem White was a preseason Heisman front runner for
• 1:12:04
  head coach Neil Brown. Wow Texter William Clarksburg. Everyone discusses quarterbacks Baal ger
• 1:12:11
  Gino running backs Coburn zero way divine. But who are you guys picking Dan
• 1:12:15
  Moses or Zach Frasier camp Yeah time two all time greats Texter three guys Seth
• 1:12:23
  and Florida. Two questions? Is Jaheem White the first player to ever rush
• 1:12:27
  for two hundred in his first start? Also? How in the world was
• 1:12:30
  West Virginia's only Power five offer? It's nuts. We gotta find that one
• 1:12:34
  out about Texter? Uh oh, here's free power this This is always trouble.
• 1:12:40
  This is always trouble. P one Jason and Tulsa. I edited this
• 1:12:45
  because it was too long. Jason Chillett, Hey, guys. First off,
• 1:12:47
  from a couple episodes ago, my golf team entry fee that won five
• 1:12:50
  thousand was only twenty five bucks. So two hundred to one. Yeah pretty
• 1:12:55
  good. Good hit better than my one hundred and fifty bet on Brian Harmon
• 1:12:58
  to win the Open. Secondly, I've never coach, but I can say
• 1:13:00
  one hundred percent herculean confidence. Choosing to receive the opening kick dumbest decision you
• 1:13:05
  can possibly make. You're giving your opponent a chance at two consecutive possessions.
• 1:13:10
  Receiving the second half kick can only be a good thing. You either get
• 1:13:14
  to continue your own momentum or stop your opponent's momentum. I'd rather have to
• 1:13:16
  go to war solo against at till of the hunt, wearing nothing but a
• 1:13:20
  loincloth and armed with only a drinking star than choose to receive the opening kick,
• 1:13:26
  all due respect to loincloths and drinking straws. Great win. Let's go
• 1:13:29
  get one in Waco. Love the show, by the way. P.
• 1:13:32
  One, Jason and Tulsa. Someone who signs their text because they're a man,
• 1:13:35
  not a pre pubescent little boy ps against my better judgment. I'll be
• 1:13:41
  sitting in the front row behind the visitors bench student section in Stillwater, January
• 1:13:45
  twenty seven. There you go, Texter, this is not ai. Roses
• 1:13:53
  are red, violets are blue. Hey, Herb Street, It's time to
• 1:13:56
  pay up, dude. So yes, remember he said if West Virginia wins
• 1:14:00
  six games, I'll give you anything you want more than six games. Well
• 1:14:03
  guess what, hey for some innile money. Yeah, Texter, Hey,
• 1:14:08
  three guys, can you three use your collective prowess this offseason to get the
• 1:14:13
  athletic department to do some effort and to get mylin pushcard lights to flicker on
• 1:14:16
  and off after a score like some stadiums are doing during night games. Now
• 1:14:19
  that we've got a pile of night game, not that we've had a pile
• 1:14:21
  of night but it really had the great environment. Yeah, so that's in
• 1:14:26
  store. West Virginia is getting lights at the stadium led so you will be
• 1:14:30
  able to turn them off or on. I don't know exactly when that's coming,
• 1:14:32
  it could be very soon. So that yeah, if that's in the
• 1:14:35
  next year, so then guarantee Western you will have no night games. Right,
• 1:14:38
  everything will be. Everything will be eleven am Easter, eleven am Eastern
• 1:14:41
  correct, six am Eastern kick. First of all, great job, great
• 1:14:45
  job Lou holtzeing Cincinnati last week. Guys, y'all talked them up like West
• 1:14:49
  Virginia was playing the Montana era of forty nine ers. In all seriousness,
• 1:14:53
  that's exactly what good teams do to bad teams. You dominate them. People
• 1:14:57
  complain all the schedule they want. But if you do that the bad team
• 1:15:00
  t that's a sign you're a good team. Previous Neil Brown teams would have
• 1:15:02
  barely won and done so ugly. That's a huge difference. That is progress.
• 1:15:06
  Jim from Clarksburg, I'd like to think on the day Don Neeland was
• 1:15:10
  being honored, it was more Neil and S than Lou Holtz coach. Neil
• 1:15:13
  liked to do that from the coaches from that era, didn't. Now,
• 1:15:15
  Admittedly, I would like to say I was putting on a show there for
• 1:15:18
  I'd actually thought it'd be a closer. I just missed the well, you
• 1:15:23
  know what everybody did. Okay, that wasn't exclusive. Do you every look
• 1:15:27
  what the odds makers thought? Yeah, I thought it'd be a close game.
• 1:15:29
  So and frankly, you look at you look at the statistics of both
• 1:15:33
  teams. How much we talked about that, they were very, very close.
• 1:15:36
  They had a good running game, West Virginia a good running game,
• 1:15:39
  West Virginia coming off a disappointing performance. So yeah, I mean statistically it
• 1:15:42
  should have been. But you know what, you do, play the game,
• 1:15:45
  see what happens. West Virginia showed up. One of Don's all time
• 1:15:46
  greats was when he want to prod his defense, you'd give him like,
• 1:15:50
  I'd tell you one thing, if we if we play like we practiced today,
• 1:15:54
  they're gonna have to put two scoreboards out there because we're gonna blow the
• 1:15:57
  first one up. You know what. Steve Dunlay have told a good story
• 1:16:00
  when he was defensive coordinator. And one thing Dune Lapp, who was a
• 1:16:04
  very good coach, appreciated about Neiland was it Newlan would pretty much leave malone.
• 1:16:08
  So you coach the defense, you figure out what's going on. But
• 1:16:12
  if it got like mid third quarter in West Virginia's offense wasn't doing very well,
• 1:16:16
  he would Dunlap would hear from coach Neeland say Steve better try something because
• 1:16:21
  we're not gonna be able to do anything on our side. Texter Joe and
• 1:16:27
  Barbersville. Nice win, nice performance all the way around. Heading the Fort
• 1:16:30
  Myers in the morning via Charleston, hoping for a meeting with UVA Wednesday night
• 1:16:34
  in the championship game. Side note, Tony, there's a golf scramble Tuesday
• 1:16:40
  morning hosted by the Fort Myers Alumni Club. Since you're there, I think
• 1:16:44
  you'd make a good caddy. I figure Hoppy's on vacation next week. He
• 1:16:47
  needs to take more vacation. He takes more dog gone days than a federal
• 1:16:51
  employee, so no need to invite him. Brad, you're welcome too,
• 1:16:55
  and props on the Cincinnati defense being bad against rushing quarterbacks spreads, hitting those
• 1:17:00
  stats square in the numbers. Brad was on, Brad, you were on
• 1:17:02
  the money. Was he prancing around the studio during the games? Just no,
• 1:17:06
  but I'll tell you what he had you take his stats and also he
• 1:17:11
  does Brad's how to win the game had key points. Brad was absolutely on.
• 1:17:15
  If his grade, his pro football grade would be like ninety two.
• 1:17:19
  Yeah it was good. He was on Miguel and Manassas Park, Senator,
• 1:17:24
  Beermeister and Barista enjoying watching the seniors leave it all on the field. But
• 1:17:30
  how's this from a friend of your program, Brett McMurphy, Thanks for having
• 1:17:33
  us. New Mexico State gets one point eight million dollar check to go play
• 1:17:38
  Auburn and beat some Yeah, thirty one ten, there were twenty six point
• 1:17:42
  favorites. Tigers were also unreal. Job by Jerry Kill at New Mexico State.
• 1:17:46
  Aggie's played for the CUSA title in two weeks against Liberty. Have a
• 1:17:49
  happy Thanksgiving, can't wait for the season. That was a good. Thanks
• 1:17:51
  for having us, Yeah it was Texter lunch Quell would encourage New Mexico State
• 1:17:56
  fans listening to the show they could head to episode eight hundred dot com and
• 1:17:59
  get a thanks for having his T shirt for the holidays. Yeah. Perfect.
• 1:18:02
  They would be able to do that lunch pail performance by West Virginia never
• 1:18:06
  a doubt from the opening kickoff, We're going to win. Only forty three
• 1:18:10
  thousand on a beautiful day. They always struggle with attendants for some reason.
• 1:18:14
  On the last home game that was not lunch pail. That was buffet that
• 1:18:16
  would just pick out what you want. Well, they're all there. They
• 1:18:18
  struggle with attendants on the last home game because the students aren't there, dorm
• 1:18:23
  closed Friday and deer honey, Okay, a lot of people. I mean
• 1:18:26
  that's probably what yes is that, Brad? Is that seven seven six seven
• 1:18:31
  thousand? Easy? Well the students alone is covered that number? Okay?
• 1:18:35
  Whatever? Uh? Five and one at home they defended their home turf.
• 1:18:40
  Great to see a team match their identity. Joe and Charleston, South Carolina
• 1:18:43
  Perreopolis Phil born in the early eighties, started going to games in the early
• 1:18:46
  nineties. I've got more memorable games with Sincy than Penn State. Two crossbar
• 1:18:50
  lights out at nippert O five, the eight almost comeback. So to agree
• 1:18:55
  with Brad, they are more of a rival. White had a great blackout
• 1:18:58
  game. Did jeheem White during his or is his chill Son tonight? That
• 1:19:01
  I remember? Avon used to have that thing that said chill Son on his
• 1:19:05
  mouthpiece. Yeah. Texter Bill, graduate of the Unions of WVU in sixty
• 1:19:13
  and five nineteen sixty five, I saw my first Mountaineer game in fifty three.
• 1:19:17
  West Virginia defeated Pitt seventeen seven. I was ten years old, became
• 1:19:20
  a lifelong fan, graduated from WV sixty five, and during my work life,
• 1:19:25
  my family and I attended almost every home game during Coach Neeland's tenure.
• 1:19:29
  Our university in State has certainly been blessed by Coach Neeland's presence. I'm happy
• 1:19:32
  for him and his family. Texter Mountain Mama singing Country Roads in Annapolis.
• 1:19:38
  Hey, guys, what a difference a week makes. Watching Saturday took me
• 1:19:42
  back to the future, seeing a mountaineering New Jersey and blazoned on the back
• 1:19:45
  with White working his magic running at Mountaineer Field. What an electrifying performance.
• 1:19:50
  Can't wait to witness Jahem's future in the old Golden Blue. Let's go to
• 1:19:54
  Waco and get a repeat performance. You know one other. You know what
• 1:19:58
  Neeland told me. I was talking to him. I don't was on the
• 1:20:00
  air, off the air, and I said, Coach, you're gonna have
• 1:20:01
  your name painted up there on that to divers diversified Energy wall. He said,
• 1:20:08
  hope they don't use paint, can wash off with water. Bet from
• 1:20:14
  Youngstown. I was at the pit BC game Thursday to see a friend that
• 1:20:17
  coaches BC. So is any good mountaineer. I spent three quarters trying to
• 1:20:21
  teach the BC fans the proper way to sing country roads. Hope you enjoy
• 1:20:26
  this video. And then he sent me a video and the quality is not
• 1:20:28
  good. But as you can imagine, he got all the people that were
• 1:20:30
  BC fans in his section when they played Sweet Caroline to Yah sing at the
• 1:20:35
  way. West Virginia well done. Oh the BC got beat Yeah, I
• 1:20:40
  know, pit T dub and Barbersville, the words of coach kneeling Jerry West
• 1:20:44
  gave them pride in basketball. We gave them a football team the state of
• 1:20:46
  West Virginia could be proud of exactly. You may have read a text for
• 1:20:50
  me where I might have called out those who, within a two and a
• 1:20:54
  half hour span go from trusting the climb to driving a wedge into this football
• 1:20:58
  program. I'm not a fan of WU. Let me explain. A fan
• 1:21:01
  is someone who wants to be as close to the action as possible without having
• 1:21:04
  to sacrifice anything. I own land in Cable County, lived within twenty minutes
• 1:21:10
  from Marshall my entire life. There are only a handful of us down here
• 1:21:14
  who proudly wear the flying WV so we know sacrifice. We're mountaineers, not
• 1:21:17
  fans. I can remember when the closest place to buy West Virginia University merchandise
• 1:21:23
  was Charleston Stu's Leave No Doubt, Owen's postgame interview as the Pride played Country
• 1:21:29
  Roads. Quincy's run major has Pat Today's and many other players, coaches,
• 1:21:33
  and staff were born from a head coach who brought pride to his team in
• 1:21:38
  this state. My first game was Purdue and Mike Alstatt. Not the outcome
• 1:21:43
  I expected, but I was baptized in the old gold and blue. Proud
• 1:21:46
  of this program and today's win. And oh lastly asked Brad if there's a
• 1:21:50
  stat with the number of times a center blocked his man and carried a running
• 1:21:54
  back into the end zone. I think Zach should be credited for half a
• 1:21:58
  touchdown. Sorry for the length. Today a great day to be a mountaineer.
• 1:22:00
  Wherever you may be. We'll be wearing my thanks for having a T
• 1:22:03
  shirt for Baylor. Let's go last two. Tom and Clarksburg. Longtime listener,
• 1:22:09
  first time Texter. I can't figure out all the fairweather fans talking bad
• 1:22:13
  about our schedule and then want us to change conferences so we can have an
• 1:22:16
  easy year every year. Makes no sense to me. Last one Texter Grant
• 1:22:21
  and Danville, Pennsylvania. Three guys, Hello, you think Neil Brown's in
• 1:22:27
  discussion for Big twelve Coach of the Year. Given we were picked last and
• 1:22:30
  we'll finish in the top half, the award likely goes to Sarkesian, but
• 1:22:32
  Neil should have at least getting some consideration, in my opinion, love the
• 1:22:36
  show. Three guys Christmas Catalog as well. Agree. I think I agree
• 1:22:40
  completely, and I also think that the coach of the Year should be not
• 1:22:44
  from Texas or Oklahoma. I think if that requires a screw job, so
• 1:22:48
  be it, so be it, so be it. Sorry, thanks for
• 1:22:54
  having us, see you, good luck in the sec We're moving on.
• 1:22:56
  These are our coaches now. Yep. Agree, he should get some votes
• 1:22:59
  real quick before we move on on game coming up tomorrow basketball Tony. Let's
• 1:23:01
  do a quick overview look at SMU real quick. Here, excuse me one
• 1:23:06
  second, if I could one second, please go segment bonus if you listen
• 1:23:15
  past the credits or sometimes bonus segments kind of what you get it's a real
• 1:23:17
  quick overview. Pace is going to be interesting to watch. Your SMU is
• 1:23:20
  going to want to get up and down the floor. West Virginia does not,
• 1:23:24
  So SMU right now top fifty in pace nationally, So watch them so
• 1:23:28
  far and again, take all these with a grain of salt right now,
• 1:23:30
  small sample size, but SMU one of the very best in the land at
• 1:23:34
  offensive rebounding top thirty, so you're going to have to keep them off the
• 1:23:39
  glass. They're also here here's maybe the biggest concern. SMU is tenth nationally
• 1:23:44
  an opponent two point field goal percentage right now, so they've guarded fairly well.
• 1:23:48
  Now, two of those three games that they've played where those stats are
• 1:23:51
  being used are coming against teams ranked in the three hundred, so they were
• 1:23:56
  just vastly superior against A and M. They lost a game at is close
• 1:24:00
  ish for a while seventy nine sixty six, So hopefully West Virginia can find
• 1:24:03
  a way to score. But so far in the season, SMU very good
• 1:24:06
  at keeping teams out of two point range and making baskets. What's your guess
• 1:24:12
  on what the line will be because we're recording here at twelve fifteen I'll you
• 1:24:15
  know, I haven't looked at that to see if it's out. If I
• 1:24:17
  was making a guess, I'll go, I'll give you think those stats are
• 1:24:19
  accurate. He didn't have his glasses on. I know that's what plus the
• 1:24:26
  I mean, I'm looking across. The numbers are tiny. It's like nine
• 1:24:29
  point and you'll have your glasses on. Yeah, I think I still got
• 1:24:31
  it. This game is going to be a close game. One two points
• 1:24:34
  seriously on the spread. Seriously. Yeah, it's not out yet, but
• 1:24:40
  it'll be one or two. Yeah. Well, then I say that because
• 1:24:42
  Ken Palm has West Virginia winning by one. Let me tell you something.
• 1:24:47
  If West Virginia can go down there and beat SMU, be a great win,
• 1:24:51
  be a great great win, be a top top one hundred win.
• 1:24:55
  You leaven tomorrow afternoon. What's what's Is there a line yet on w Baylor?
• 1:25:00
  No? No, not yet. I'll be out here in a couple
• 1:25:01
  hours. All right, you guys, what would be Brad? I don't
• 1:25:06
  know. I didn't look at any power rankings. Favored by a few couple
• 1:25:11
  ye. I was gonna say three or four, three or four? USh
• 1:25:13
  maybe two? All right, we're done with whatever it is that we just
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  did. Thanks so very much for being with us. We're gonna so here's
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  the deal. Yo, We're not releasing Thursday because it's Thanksgiving and we want
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  you to eat yams. It'spend your day eating yams. We will be on
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  Friday morning. The show will be out for a preview of Baylor. Will
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  be about ten thirty Eastern. Over promise, just say Friday morning, Friday
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  morning ten, it's gotta be. I gotta get on a plane ten thirty
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  eastern. It's not there. I'll give you Brad's home number. You can
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  and stop listening to talk Line and switch over to the three guys. Yeah,
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  Yeah, this is the last time we're doing this on Sunday. Next week
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  we'll do it on Monday. I think I think Sunday is important. Good
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  go to GM in season. Sundays are done. Huh Yeah, this is
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  fast seas that was good. We were forced into it, but it seemed
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  to work all right. Well, but wait, because there'll be something weird'll
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  happen. We'll have to do with Sunday. That's sure. This won't be
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  the last Sunday. That's Virginia weird. Some basketball travel stuff will be weird.
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  We'll we had to do some Sundays during the summer. Crazy stuff going
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  to be on call than we would be? With the show? We're like
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