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- 0:07Speaker 1: Drama, Darling drama, Darling.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Drama, Darling.
- 0:21Speaker 1: And welcome in, says one Amanda Francis to her gals
- 0:25Speaker 1: who entered her home for her Manifestation moment party. And
- 0:30Speaker 1: I wasn't mad at it because it was very on brand,
- 0:33Speaker 1: because after all, she is the money Queen, and you
- 0:36Speaker 1: are entering a business when you enter in those doors.
- 0:41Speaker 1: We're talking about Beverly Hills today. Joining me is Deanna Mcheng,
- 0:46Speaker 1: who is not the Money Queen but in fact the
- 0:49Speaker 1: Montage Queen Roam Indiana.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, thank you. So yeah, it's interesting.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, what is it to queen yourself?
- 0:58Speaker 1: Meanwhile? Right, and you know what, there's nothing wrong with it.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I actually have no problem with her calling herself the
- 1:07Speaker 1: manifest Manifestation queen.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah. I think the end money on her Matt,
- 1:14Speaker 2: on her back, on her welcome Matt, that's there.
- 1:17Speaker 1: That's what threw one. Yeah and Co and Cot Yeah
- 1:23Speaker 1: and Co. That was yeah, money Queen and Co. That's
- 1:26Speaker 1: what it was. Okay, Well listen, you might you never know,
- 1:31Speaker 1: the Montage Queen and Co. It might be coming your way.
- 1:36Speaker 2: You never You're right, I clearly need to stay open.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Here's the thing, because it's like it's it's just like
- 1:42Speaker 2: who it's coming from. If it was someone else, like
- 1:44Speaker 2: say it was like Bow's and Co. Would be be
- 1:46Speaker 2: mad at it. Probably not you probably might not be
- 1:50Speaker 2: mad at it. But it's just like the whole package.
- 1:53Speaker 2: And so but I digress now before we do get
- 1:57Speaker 2: right into Beverly Hills, I do have just like just
- 2:02Speaker 2: a tad bit of dish to discuss with, you know,
- 2:05Speaker 2: the darlings.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Here serving dish. I just want to talk about what
- 2:12Speaker 1: happened with the New York reboot over on E that
- 2:17Speaker 1: is not under the NBC umbrella, as that has been
- 2:23Speaker 1: lifted and changed since January. Thank you darlings who have
- 2:27Speaker 1: popped into the chat over on Patreon and set me straight.
- 2:30Speaker 1: So as we all saw it come down on Sunday.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Last Sunday's Super Bowl, Jill Zarin took to the social
- 2:41Speaker 1: medias and really ripped in a new one in the
- 2:45Speaker 1: worst way, which turned EA's exclamation point into one of
- 2:51Speaker 1: those emojis with their hands covering their eyes and then
- 2:57Speaker 1: a dead face, and then basically was like you done, boy.
- 3:02Speaker 1: They wasted no time and I you know, it's not
- 3:06Speaker 1: like it's nice to be in a world where it's
- 3:08Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna pussy foot around and like
- 3:10Speaker 1: put up the black screen on social media with white
- 3:13Speaker 1: writing and apologize. It's just like, we're gonna make a
- 3:16Speaker 1: decision and we're gonna move ahead with it. And they said,
- 3:20Speaker 1: Jill's Aaron, please pack your knives and go from this
- 3:23Speaker 1: reboot to which then they welcomed in one to rindom
- 3:28Speaker 1: medley within I would say almost forty eight hours some time,
- 3:32Speaker 1: so for someone to say not well bitch to hello, bitch,
- 3:36Speaker 1: hellomation point, I'm here, So you know, for a second there, Dana,
- 3:44Speaker 1: well several seconds, maybe even a couple twenty four hours.
- 3:48Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be like, you know what,
- 3:50Speaker 1: these ladies are all too much of a liability. We
- 3:55Speaker 1: knew that when they were coming in, but now we
- 3:58Speaker 1: think it's just this is something we can't even touch.
- 4:03Speaker 1: I thought they were going to cancel the whole thing. Damn.
- 4:06Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can't take that off the table.
- 4:11Speaker 2: That is still a possibility, you know, but for now
- 4:20Speaker 2: they are willing to uh what. There was a phrase
- 4:24Speaker 2: that Bose used last episode when she was talking about
- 4:27Speaker 2: dread and she was explaining her wanting to talk about
- 4:32Speaker 2: what's his phase p K because she was like, you're
- 4:35Speaker 2: willing to assume the risk I think that is and
- 4:38Speaker 2: it was such business talking out.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Yes, you know, she she she shows up.
- 4:44Speaker 2: So I think right now, E with the gaggle that's left,
- 4:48Speaker 2: is willing to assume the risk. But I think that
- 4:51Speaker 2: at any moment they're going to cut and run, you know, like.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Sure, uh sorry, it's just like it is z nuts
- 5:01Speaker 1: And meanwhile, you know, days went by, and then like finally,
- 5:04Speaker 1: I think Jill came out with an apology of some sort. Meanwhile,
- 5:07Speaker 1: Taylor's over there. Taylor Armstrong's just shouting from the rooftops
- 5:10Speaker 1: basically the same thing. And Jill's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I don't know what I said. I said something wrong
- 5:16Speaker 1: and I got myself canceled. I don't know what I did.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know what, I don't know. I don't
- 5:20Speaker 1: know music but nothing. Where's Puerto Rico? I don't know.
- 5:23Speaker 1: I'm sorry, English, I don't know. So she's just spinning
- 5:29Speaker 1: and meanwhile Taylor's over there doing that. It's just, guys,
- 5:33Speaker 1: it's rough times. It's rough times. Now this reboot has
- 5:39Speaker 1: Sonya Morgan in it as well. And what Sonya did,
- 5:43Speaker 1: which we were on our thread, was like she took
- 5:47Speaker 1: right over to social media immediately.
- 5:51Speaker 2: She was got like it was Psycho.
- 6:00Speaker 1: International, luxury lifestyle, Latin x RAN support acouragement. She threw
- 6:11Speaker 1: up a carousel of slides that which and to her defense,
- 6:16Speaker 1: has she's been very, very, you know, celebratory of the
- 6:22Speaker 1: Latin American community. I felt in the past to some degree.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I mean, is it the first thing that comes to
- 6:28Speaker 1: my mind when I think of Sony Morgan. No, but
- 6:32Speaker 1: but she's been on covers of magazines that have had
- 6:37Speaker 1: a Latin American influence to them. She she threw up
- 6:40Speaker 1: those receipts, she threw up just check out the carousel,
- 6:43Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. And I just found it laughable
- 6:45Speaker 1: that she dunk so hard on Miss Jill's errand she
- 6:49Speaker 1: dunked her ass off and just was like, I don't
- 6:53Speaker 1: know her. I don't even know what the originalogy or
- 6:56Speaker 1: New York is. I wasn't even there. She just I
- 7:01Speaker 1: don't even know.
- 7:03Speaker 2: It was a meditation in distancing oneself, really and truly
- 7:07Speaker 2: her end lou really, really and truly I'll never forget it.
- 7:13Speaker 2: I'll never forget where I was. You know, I saw
- 7:17Speaker 2: there when I saw that swipe through. She had to,
- 7:21Speaker 2: you know, she had to do that. I think it
- 7:23Speaker 2: may have been someone in the thread. I think it
- 7:25Speaker 2: was someone in the thread.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Maybe it was you that said Sonya needed she needed
- 7:29Speaker 1: to run to social media and do that, right, she
- 7:31Speaker 1: had to.
- 7:32Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, do you not put Lou in
- 7:35Speaker 2: the same category.
- 7:36Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I didn't Sonia. I don't
- 7:37Speaker 1: know if I saw her anything. I don't know what
- 7:40Speaker 1: she said. Did she I thought she definitely she did.
- 7:45Speaker 2: No, she ran herself. They both ran themselves, you know.
- 7:49Speaker 2: So it was they probably got on a FaceTime and
- 7:54Speaker 2: were like, we gotta, we've got to stop the bleeding,
- 7:58Speaker 2: and we must George forward, you know, with and we're
- 8:03Speaker 2: cutting Jill as loose as anyone could get cut like
- 8:07Speaker 2: she is. Biden gone see yah.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Yeah, And I you know, I mean, look, of course,
- 8:13Speaker 1: why would you want to be associated And also they
- 8:15Speaker 1: they don't if they don't believe that and they don't
- 8:19Speaker 1: share her views, they should absolutely speak out despite any
- 8:23Speaker 1: friendship there. You know, there's a way to do it.
- 8:26Speaker 1: And like Zaren fabrics like put up threw up that
- 8:30Speaker 1: picture of Zil Zill Jill Bill.
- 8:33Speaker 2: She's pretty Zill right now though she is pretty pretty pretty.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Zill Chill at the villain. She is a villain, Bob
- 8:43Speaker 1: zillaan villain, like with that X over it.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Oh my, never never seen a red X. Quite, I've
- 8:51Speaker 2: never seen someone axed in such a fashion.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I was bold. I was a bold and loud
- 8:59Speaker 1: statement and probably needed to save their business. My god.
- 9:04Speaker 1: And it's not in her name. She doesn't have her
- 9:07Speaker 1: name on the business anymore. The kids do, apparently, and
- 9:10Speaker 1: they made that these kids Bobby's Oh, Bobby's kids. You
- 9:14Speaker 1: don't think Jill and Bobby's daughter.
- 9:18Speaker 2: H No, no, no, Ali, Sorry, you don't think Alia?
- 9:25Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because she Ali's not Bobby's. Well, well did
- 9:29Speaker 2: he adopt her?
- 9:30Speaker 1: Okay? Oh I think he did.
- 9:33Speaker 2: I don't believe my bad on that. It's been a minute.
- 9:37Speaker 1: But did speak out, yeah, right, But Ali did speak
- 9:42Speaker 1: out and say she does not agree with Zill, and
- 9:46Speaker 1: she was like, I'm not that's I'm not doing what
- 9:48Speaker 1: she's doing, So.
- 9:51Speaker 2: You have to you would have to. No, basically what
- 9:56Speaker 2: that ax mark the spot was very much Bobby's I
- 10:02Speaker 2: think it was his grandkid speaking out and in the
- 10:05Speaker 2: Reddit threads and just being like, she's a nightmare. She's
- 10:10Speaker 2: always been a nightmare.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Oh oh, you're talking about that other thing. Okay, Yeah,
- 10:16Speaker 1: So it's Bobby's son's son from his first marriage's son.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So it's like Jill's step grandson. It's Bobby's grandson who
- 10:30Speaker 1: went on and did some posts and he was like,
- 10:32Speaker 1: I'm not going to say too much because I don't
- 10:34Speaker 1: want to be slapped with a lawsuit allegedly you know
- 10:37Speaker 1: that she was a nightmare and all this stuff. So yeah,
- 10:39Speaker 1: that was that was tough. That was tough to see.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Well, Amy, it's so crazy because I have been you know,
- 10:47Speaker 2: she has wanted this, as we said, you know, we
- 10:51Speaker 2: did a whole rant on Andy just being so thrilled
- 10:55Speaker 2: to get Zaren off of his phone.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Yeah. But me while you know, we have a very
- 11:03Speaker 1: important we've actually had breaking news here, Deanna. So there
- 11:09Speaker 1: is a reward out. Lewanne posted this for her lost hat,
- 11:15Speaker 1: her loss Fedora.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Shake my titties on that one.
- 11:26Speaker 1: New York. I need your help finding my iconic Philip
- 11:32Speaker 1: trophy Cabaret hat.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Not the Philip Tracy Cabaret hat.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, it holds some great sentimental value. If
- 11:43Speaker 1: you have any information or leads in the New York area,
- 11:48Speaker 1: please contact assistant at Countess Luan dot com. Your discretion
- 11:53Speaker 1: is appreciated.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Why why do we need discretion?
- 11:58Speaker 1: I own no discretion. Hi, I love it.
- 12:01Speaker 2: We need discretion.
- 12:03Speaker 1: But the poster, the billboard poster here on social media
- 12:07Speaker 1: is that of like an old Western wanted design, you know,
- 12:12Speaker 1: like reward for this.
- 12:15Speaker 2: I got it?
- 12:15Speaker 1: That is cute.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Whoever put whoever get hopped onto? Canvan got that together?
- 12:20Speaker 2: That is cute?
- 12:23Speaker 1: It is? And so I say, you know, stop the
- 12:27Speaker 1: news cycle, like move over Epstein files, Like, let's get
- 12:30Speaker 1: Luanne's hat on all broadcasting stations and let's start looking
- 12:37Speaker 1: at the suspects.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Let's put Pam Bondy on that tax Let's let's get
- 12:42Speaker 2: her out.
- 12:43Speaker 1: She she won't turn around and look at that hat, Dana,
- 12:47Speaker 1: she will not turn around and acknowledge that hat. She won't.
- 12:50Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we can't do that. Oh God, good stuff. Well,
- 12:55Speaker 1: why don't we welcome ourselves in? Welcome to a really
- 13:01Speaker 1: great episode of Beverly Hills, which is much needed, much
- 13:05Speaker 1: needed for everyone and really, truly me, I really enjoyed it.
- 13:09Speaker 1: There were many times I paused on Rachel Zoe's home
- 13:13Speaker 1: just to take it in and just to see what
- 13:14Speaker 1: we're working with. And I really like that because you know,
- 13:19Speaker 1: you get broad, sweep, sweeping quick cuts of everybody's places,
- 13:22Speaker 1: and it's nice when you've got a second to just
- 13:25Speaker 1: pause when you're watching on the TV, when it's bigger
- 13:28Speaker 1: and you can see like, oh, that's interesting, like her
- 13:31Speaker 1: foyer going up to the stairs like zero, like gorgeous
- 13:35Speaker 1: crown molding, you know, white, gorgeous crown molding and white
- 13:38Speaker 1: all the way upstairs. Not a one photo, not one
- 13:41Speaker 1: piece of art. So it's interesting to see that clean choice.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Whereas you know, we were watching Southern Charm the other day,
- 13:49Speaker 1: didn't we, Deanna and boom, we're right into Patricia's home
- 13:53Speaker 1: and we've all seen you know, the photo collot like
- 13:59Speaker 1: the photo collages what is it called when you rearrange
- 14:03Speaker 1: the photos on the wall to make.
- 14:05Speaker 2: A Yeah, it's like a gallery wall.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you God. I couldn't have
- 14:10Speaker 1: I didn't have it.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I had to find it.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Uh, And you know, we all get to Patricia's and
- 14:17Speaker 1: she's got this very complicated gallery wall of every size,
- 14:22Speaker 1: shape form that you could imagine all the way up
- 14:25Speaker 1: that staircase. So it's just really fun to see everyone's
- 14:28Speaker 1: different aesthetics and stuff like that. So I really enjoy that.
- 14:33Speaker 1: And so Rachel, you know, sitting with her team, and
- 14:36Speaker 1: like just she's always overwhelmed. She's always so busy. Nothing
- 14:41Speaker 1: is changing, so project.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like she can. I always feel like she's
- 14:48Speaker 2: walking into those rooms barely able to carry like the
- 14:51Speaker 2: weight of the kaftan and her coffee and the like.
- 14:55Speaker 2: You know, it's just like she's barely hobbling in. And
- 14:59Speaker 2: I I love the teams. I want a team when
- 15:03Speaker 2: I see the teams. And while we'll be getting a
- 15:05Speaker 2: team at some point, just be advised.
- 15:08Speaker 1: You Clean and Co come in your way, and Drama
- 15:11Speaker 1: Darling and Co come in your way soon twenty.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's just a good feeling. And the team
- 15:19Speaker 2: always looks a little tense, you know. Of course, I
- 15:22Speaker 2: know that team has been going through it, you know
- 15:24Speaker 2: what I mean, like.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Always always going through.
- 15:28Speaker 2: It, always going through it. They keep their emotions pretty
- 15:31Speaker 2: close to the vast, like this isn't a you have to.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Yeah, you got why. You can't trigger your subject. You
- 15:39Speaker 1: can't trigger the boss. You know, you've got to keep
- 15:41Speaker 1: it calm and cool, and you know you can't. You
- 15:44Speaker 1: just you got to be empathetic. You gotta be cool
- 15:47Speaker 1: headed so that they can spiral and you can bring
- 15:50Speaker 1: them back to neutral.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Which is what's happening, it seems, you know, and I
- 15:57Speaker 2: like it. I like it for all of us, I
- 15:59Speaker 2: really do. Rachel is just bringing so much. I don't
- 16:04Speaker 2: know why. I thought I was anticipating something else.
- 16:12Speaker 1: Hmmm, Well, we're all pleasantly surprised, and I think, you know,
- 16:18Speaker 1: to start and you was surprised. Andy was like, are
- 16:21Speaker 1: you sure you want to do this? This is a
- 16:24Speaker 1: you know, a cast show. This is like, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 1: you put your story out there, you be vulnerable, but
- 16:29Speaker 1: you and I have already talked about it. We cracked
- 16:31Speaker 1: that code day one, which is like she is there
- 16:33Speaker 1: to drag the hell out of Roger done period and like, yeah,
- 16:38Speaker 1: we are. And also lifting up and sharing the narrative
- 16:44Speaker 1: of what happens when men whose worlds are you know,
- 16:50Speaker 1: all about them for a certain amount of time, once
- 16:53Speaker 1: they reach a certain age, they if they're not where
- 16:57Speaker 1: they want to be and they're with a strong and powerful,
- 17:00Speaker 1: successful woman, then it's just the spiral and they lose
- 17:05Speaker 1: their minds.
- 17:07Speaker 2: So it was really good to that moment was like
- 17:12Speaker 2: between Bo's and Rachel, Dreat is like she's living, you
- 17:20Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like these girls are raising her up.
- 17:23Speaker 2: I don't think she anticipated Rachel Zoe being like her
- 17:26Speaker 2: lord and savior, but she is.
- 17:28Speaker 1: I never expected that either, Yeah, I mean I don't think.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Rachel expected it.
- 17:33Speaker 1: No, because Rachel's just telling her story and it happens.
- 17:38Speaker 1: It happens coincidentally to be aligning with what Dreat is
- 17:43Speaker 1: experiencing on the same level, which is really interesting. Actually
- 17:47Speaker 1: it is. You know, I think that their stories may
- 17:49Speaker 1: be a little bit different. But when Rachel explains the
- 17:52Speaker 1: epidemic that's going on, I mean I absolutely loved it.
- 17:55Speaker 1: And dereat with this like she's in church and she
- 18:00Speaker 1: is like preach, preach, preach yes, shake shake yes. But
- 18:06Speaker 1: you know what a fascinating thing because I really did
- 18:11Speaker 1: understand what Darita is saying and how things changed when
- 18:17Speaker 1: they changed, and perhaps why they changed, and it could
- 18:22Speaker 1: be as simple as you know, my opinion, which is
- 18:26Speaker 1: when she got on The Housewives. The longer she got
- 18:28Speaker 1: on the Housewives and she became famous. Then Pique is
- 18:32Speaker 1: now the background player. He's in the back corner of
- 18:36Speaker 1: the of you know those titles when they do their
- 18:38Speaker 1: little turnaround, like he's in the corner with the dog
- 18:42Speaker 1: and the kids. You know, he's not upfront when he's
- 18:46Speaker 1: I'm the global entrepreneur, I'm this, I'm that well on
- 18:51Speaker 1: this show, you're not that. But he's trying to say,
- 18:55Speaker 1: if it weren't for me, you wouldn't be here.
- 18:58Speaker 2: But didn't she like hook up with him when he
- 19:00Speaker 2: was millions in debt? Yes, based on what she said, right, So,
- 19:07Speaker 2: if anything, it seems like Jerreid's existence has lifted him up.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, you know what I mean.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Wasn't it like they were in he was I don't
- 19:16Speaker 2: have the timeline, but I feel like she has said
- 19:20Speaker 2: that he was doing really well and he hit a major. Yeah,
- 19:25Speaker 2: don't like he bottomed out. They met and he rebuilt.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Right, that's a really good point. He wasn't the global
- 19:35Speaker 1: entrepreneur that he says he's all cracked up to be
- 19:39Speaker 1: when they first.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Seemed like it.
- 19:41Speaker 1: But I think like as time went on, he was
- 19:44Speaker 1: able to rebuild. And I think what he's saying is like,
- 19:47Speaker 1: because of my money and what I built up and
- 19:50Speaker 1: my connection with boy George and you know, presenting all
- 19:53Speaker 1: this to the executives of Bravo, right, what I gave
- 19:58Speaker 1: you in terms of money and all this stuff is
- 20:02Speaker 1: how you got on this show.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard, as they say in chap Chef heard.
- 20:07Speaker 2: And I will also say Dorite also got herself with
- 20:11Speaker 2: her fake accent, with her you know, wanting the plates
- 20:16Speaker 2: and the.
- 20:16Speaker 1: This and the that, Yeah, got herself on this show.
- 20:21Speaker 1: You know, it's not about him, you know, and he
- 20:27Speaker 1: wants so badly for it to be solely him for
- 20:32Speaker 1: the reason why she's on this show. And I would
- 20:35Speaker 1: say that they both had something to do with her
- 20:38Speaker 1: getting on this show. You know, without him, it's not
- 20:42Speaker 1: as much of a cell. But like he clearly can't handle,
- 20:48Speaker 1: you know, when the spotlight started to shine directly on her.
- 20:51Speaker 1: And as what she said, he's always wanted to, you know,
- 20:56Speaker 1: be in the spotlight, which like isn't staying because he
- 21:02Speaker 1: has every opportunity to be in the spotlight on this
- 21:05Speaker 1: show as much as he possibly wants, you know, and
- 21:10Speaker 1: and all that we're seeing now is he's kind of
- 21:13Speaker 1: screwing it up over and over again by the way
- 21:15Speaker 1: that he's been poor, how he's acted, and how he's
- 21:19Speaker 1: portrayed himself and all the rumors and the nastiness that
- 21:23Speaker 1: we heard about, and like we just so like, is
- 21:26Speaker 1: he just mad now that they've he's been exposed for
- 21:30Speaker 1: all kinds of things that perhaps his alleged dirty business
- 21:35Speaker 1: here and there, And is that what he's so mad
- 21:38Speaker 1: about that now he looks bad, his public image looks bad?
- 21:43Speaker 1: Is that what she's saying.
- 21:45Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's complicated because do I think
- 21:47Speaker 2: Derry also changed and like became obsessed with spending in
- 21:53Speaker 2: designers and you know, and having the looks. And do
- 21:56Speaker 2: I think she was like up her own a Yeah,
- 22:00Speaker 2: you know, I don't think she was looking and focusing
- 22:03Speaker 2: on what was happening around her in her marriage. Like
- 22:07Speaker 2: but she you know, we've said this, like I feel
- 22:09Speaker 2: like her eyes are opening for the first time, which
- 22:12Speaker 2: is unusual in a marriage. Like you know what I mean,
- 22:15Speaker 2: Like usually you're just like I don't feel like things
- 22:17Speaker 2: are I genuinely feel she was blindsided, you know, because
- 22:23Speaker 2: I don't think she was paying any attention.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Yeah, so she doesn't pay attention, and so that that
- 22:28Speaker 1: is believable. They are completely on two different planets. Remember
- 22:32Speaker 1: when Andy used that term the rashimand effect. I think
- 22:37Speaker 1: it's something like that where he said that it's like
- 22:39Speaker 1: two different stories that are happening about the same event
- 22:43Speaker 1: and they don't line up. I am so so curious
- 22:48Speaker 1: to hear what really is the truth behind these text
- 22:51Speaker 1: messages that Mauricio is trying to confirm to Dret that
- 22:57Speaker 1: p K sent, including a spreadsheet about finance, says, texts
- 23:01Speaker 1: saying that he wants to see the kids, and her
- 23:04Speaker 1: saying she doesn't know anything of the.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Like anything about it.
- 23:08Speaker 1: I am like dumbfounded with this. Yeahan is lying, it's
- 23:13Speaker 1: not that easy, Like these texts aren't going to be lost.
- 23:18Speaker 1: She's waiting to hear from him. So either he is
- 23:22Speaker 1: completely creating false text texts in yeah soft on that
- 23:30Speaker 1: hard to do and showing mo like it, and he's
- 23:34Speaker 1: completely lying and actually, you know, being fraudulent with his
- 23:41Speaker 1: communication with her, or she is so out to lunch.
- 23:45Speaker 2: That she's not aware of what's coming in and what's
- 23:47Speaker 2: going out and I.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Can't believe that that would be the case, because it
- 23:50Speaker 1: sounds like she's waiting on pins and needles to hear
- 23:53Speaker 1: from him. All she wants to do is communicate with him.
- 23:56Speaker 1: She keeps saying, I've been trying for a month to
- 23:59Speaker 1: talk to this person and he won't talk to me, So, like,
- 24:02Speaker 1: what is going on?
- 24:04Speaker 2: Well, when she when she had her sit down with MO,
- 24:07Speaker 2: and she said like that PK was peddling a false
- 24:10Speaker 2: narrative that rang true to me.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it sure did. I'm like very much believing her.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Are you a MO?
- 24:19Speaker 2: Yes, you know, within reason, but yes. But if you're
- 24:23Speaker 2: going to find a just a receptor to get your
- 24:30Speaker 2: word out, who better than Mo?
- 24:34Speaker 1: Yeah? He was like he got cornered, you know, and
- 24:38Speaker 1: he didn't know what to say.
- 24:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:40Speaker 1: I mean when he said it sounds like you guys
- 24:42Speaker 1: need to talk was very funny. I did find that hilarious.
- 24:47Speaker 1: And Duri being like, oh, what an idea?
- 24:50Speaker 2: MO?
- 24:51Speaker 1: I mean she ripped his ass and I get it, Like,
- 24:54Speaker 1: and she's angry because it's not the meeting she thought
- 24:58Speaker 1: she was going to have.
- 25:00Speaker 2: And I thought she was going to have.
- 25:03Speaker 1: What did you think it was going to be?
- 25:05Speaker 2: I thought he was going to come in more neutral. Yeah,
- 25:09Speaker 2: with the under you know, with the subtext of I've
- 25:14Speaker 2: got PK's back, but let me let me hear what
- 25:17Speaker 2: she has to say. He I thought he came out
- 25:19Speaker 2: of the gate fighting.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. It was almost like he misled her
- 25:27Speaker 1: as if he would be some sort of you know,
- 25:30Speaker 1: middle negotiating, yeah, mediator, when in fact he was just
- 25:34Speaker 1: being patient and wanted to prove PK's point, even more
- 25:39Speaker 1: so on camera in a way to stick it to her, which.
- 25:44Speaker 2: Is And I wondered, I said to myself, is he
- 25:47Speaker 2: getting because I've had this in conversations or confrontations where
- 25:54Speaker 2: you're getting down the wrong road, you know, You're like,
- 25:57Speaker 2: I'm getting so passionate about something that's not actually what
- 26:03Speaker 2: I want to be passionate about. Like I've had that
- 26:06Speaker 2: happen in the and then you know, you just keep
- 26:10Speaker 2: hitting that point, you know. I wondered if this was
- 26:15Speaker 2: what he thought the meeting was going to be, there's
- 26:18Speaker 2: a world in which it got away from him.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. He probably thought, Yeah, I
- 26:24Speaker 1: think you're onto something where he may have been shocked
- 26:28Speaker 1: to hear her saying that she never even received these
- 26:30Speaker 1: texts and he's just like, what, you know, what are
- 26:33Speaker 1: you talking about? He's actually shown these to me. Wait,
- 26:36Speaker 1: this isn't what I expected this to be. So that's
- 26:39Speaker 1: actually a really good point. He seems kind of maybe
- 26:42Speaker 1: he was blindsided as much as she was. And so
- 26:45Speaker 1: who is the common denominator in all of this though? Right?
- 26:48Speaker 1: Two people are blindsided by the other one Piquet Right,
- 26:53Speaker 1: So now I am like so shocked. And later in
- 26:57Speaker 1: this the dinner, someone said you needed a mediator to
- 27:01Speaker 1: talk about this weekend and I was kind of like, uh, yeah,
- 27:05Speaker 1: are you from Beverly Hills? I'm sorry, do you know
- 27:08Speaker 1: what happens here? Do you know how contentious the divorces are?
- 27:11Speaker 1: Why would you even say that? Of course they need
- 27:14Speaker 1: a mediator. People need a mediator for everything when you're
- 27:17Speaker 1: going through a messy ass separation divorce. So when she
- 27:21Speaker 1: said that, she was like clutched her pearls. I was like, babe,
- 27:26Speaker 1: where have you been? I don't know who said that,
- 27:28Speaker 1: but it wasn't one of the regular cast members, but
- 27:31Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's the point. That's where they are.
- 27:36Speaker 1: They cannot communicate with each other.
- 27:39Speaker 2: And they haven't been you know, now the whole thing
- 27:42Speaker 2: with him, the one spot where I was like, oh, okay,
- 27:48Speaker 2: is she is he coming over or wanting this or
- 27:54Speaker 2: I got confused when she was like, he needs to
- 27:56Speaker 2: be in his right mind, yeah, which is like, well,
- 27:59Speaker 2: if he is communicating, is he drunk? Is he coming
- 28:03Speaker 2: over to pick up the kids? But it doesn't seem
- 28:04Speaker 2: like he is even coming over to pick up the kids,
- 28:06Speaker 2: Like so I didn't know what that meant exactly right, Interesting,
- 28:12Speaker 2: Maybe it seems like you're having more contact with him
- 28:15Speaker 2: than you're saying because you know that he's not like
- 28:19Speaker 2: drinking right right, But all in I think that enabling.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Yeah, he's completely fine. He just had like maybe one
- 28:33Speaker 1: glass of wine two at best. I mean it's not
- 28:37Speaker 1: like we did four, you know, shot shots. Yeah. I
- 28:42Speaker 1: mean that that argument took me out and like, dude,
- 28:46Speaker 1: you don't is just you don't understand the whole point is,
- 28:49Speaker 1: And her point was very strong, which is he didn't
- 28:52Speaker 1: stop drinking to be casual about like I'm having dry
- 28:57Speaker 1: January because I want to reset, recalibraterate my body. No,
- 29:02Speaker 1: he obviously had a problem, which I know a lot
- 29:05Speaker 1: of people have issues with duried outing. Uh, PK's alleged alcoholism,
- 29:14Speaker 1: and you could argue those people could argue that she
- 29:16Speaker 1: just did it again, right, And I'm sure Kyle would say,
- 29:20Speaker 1: what are you doing? You're putting this on TV now,
- 29:22Speaker 1: Now you're gonna things are gonna. So Durid's playing a
- 29:26Speaker 1: messy game, Yes she is. She's out, she is like unhinged,
- 29:32Speaker 1: but she's like out of control because her whole life
- 29:35Speaker 1: is out of control. And PK is running a messy
- 29:39Speaker 1: game too, So she has her platform and she's unhinged
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- 38:03Speaker 2: And I do believe it's real for her, you know,
- 38:06Speaker 2: I don't think she is being calculating. I think she's
- 38:12Speaker 2: just letting it rip.
- 38:14Speaker 1: She's letting it rip. She seems more. It's like two
- 38:17Speaker 1: different people, two styles of like chaotic, yeah dealings.
- 38:24Speaker 2: And Kyle is always going to center the man.
- 38:30Speaker 1: She just is.
- 38:31Speaker 2: There's no she it's just in her DNA, so it's
- 38:35Speaker 2: uncomfortable for her to Meiel Pete k is an old
- 38:43Speaker 2: timey scam artist, Like let's just let a fuck you know,
- 38:50Speaker 2: he just he you know, everything about him's got a
- 38:53Speaker 2: little slime on it. And I think that like she
- 38:57Speaker 2: turned a blind eye to whatever was going on, or
- 38:59Speaker 2: she tried to push it or not deal with it,
- 39:01Speaker 2: not think about it. But now she has to deal
- 39:04Speaker 2: with it. And when she's like, I don't know if
- 39:05Speaker 2: there's a dollar or a million in his bank account,
- 39:08Speaker 2: I believe that beyond.
- 39:10Speaker 1: Why are you buying an eleven thousand dollars mini Kelly bag? Like,
- 39:14Speaker 1: first of all, that thing is fucking ridiculous. I'm sorry,
- 39:17Speaker 1: there is it is it? It's cute for my daughter
- 39:20Speaker 1: who when she was four? What are you doing? It's stupid?
- 39:24Speaker 1: Great you can carry your lipstick, put it in a
- 39:27Speaker 1: cabinet for your little things. You know, I don't know,
- 39:30Speaker 1: but it's just dumb, okay. And I'm also not opposed
- 39:33Speaker 1: of like these housewives indulging in buying, you know, gorgeous handbags.
- 39:39Speaker 1: One could say, why would you discern and say that
- 39:43Speaker 1: you don't approve of this little one when you approve
- 39:45Speaker 1: of a big one, Well, it's just esthetics, Okay, it's
- 39:48Speaker 1: stupid to see a little tiny thing like that and
- 39:51Speaker 1: you're spending it eleven thousand dollars when you don't know
- 39:54Speaker 1: and all the redactions of your finances are happening right
- 39:57Speaker 1: before you. It's just that's a perfect example of what
- 40:00Speaker 1: we're dealing with with Deurit is that she's all over
- 40:04Speaker 1: the place. She's unhinged, she's completely emotional. And when Kyle says,
- 40:10Speaker 1: somebody said Durite wants to surround herself with yes people,
- 40:16Speaker 1: that is true to some degree. However, when you're going
- 40:20Speaker 1: through the darkest time in your life, you want to
- 40:23Speaker 1: be around people who are going to support you unconditionally. However,
- 40:27Speaker 1: you do also want someone who's going to be trying
- 40:30Speaker 1: to break through that and have your best interests at heart.
- 40:34Speaker 1: I got kind of dragged for having Kyle's backing Kyle's
- 40:40Speaker 1: point about Durite talking about this on camera, you know,
- 40:43Speaker 1: the last few episodes, like, people are really against Kyle.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I understand, and I understand she does always she's gonna
- 40:51Speaker 1: lean towards men, and she's going to maybe do that.
- 40:55Speaker 1: But her point is like please try not to expose
- 40:59Speaker 1: your in this way because you're gonna end up paying
- 41:02Speaker 1: for it in the end. She's only trying to warn her,
- 41:05Speaker 1: is her timing off? Yes, completely, absolutely okay, but at
- 41:10Speaker 1: the end of the day, she does need to like
- 41:14Speaker 1: con well, Durite said it, but I'm sorry, Rachel said
- 41:17Speaker 1: it best. I didn't know I needed a leash for Dari. Like,
- 41:21Speaker 1: It's true, she kind of needs a little help being
- 41:23Speaker 1: guided in this messy ass situation because she's gonna take
- 41:27Speaker 1: it too far and it concerns me.
- 41:28Speaker 2: I think that Kyle and Dury just doesn't want to
- 41:31Speaker 2: hear anything from Kyle, especially since they're they're in this
- 41:34Speaker 2: similar situation. But Kyle is not dealing with her situation, right,
- 41:42Speaker 2: So it's like, well that's great for you, you know.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Well, she's dealing with it the way that she wants
- 41:48Speaker 1: to deal with it, so.
- 41:51Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I guess she's they're in two different
- 41:55Speaker 2: Like there's so much money that that's a driving force
- 41:59Speaker 2: as to why they're not formalized. Like she's not, she
- 42:02Speaker 2: isn't she has of course, she's dealing with the way
- 42:05Speaker 2: she wants to, but she's also not she's certainly not
- 42:08Speaker 2: grabbing the situation by the balls and handling it. She's
- 42:12Speaker 2: just a laissez fair I don't know anything sort of
- 42:15Speaker 2: like I mean, I don't know. It's not it's so
- 42:19Speaker 2: it's frustrating because Duet's not in that financial situation and
- 42:26Speaker 2: she can't do that.
- 42:27Speaker 1: No and little kids. I've often said I would never
- 42:30Speaker 1: be able to do what Kyle has done. I don't
- 42:33Speaker 1: know how Kyle has done what Kyle has done. I
- 42:35Speaker 1: don't have that genetic makeup where my husband can step
- 42:40Speaker 1: out on me like that and then.
- 42:43Speaker 2: Be cordial and fun.
- 42:46Speaker 1: I don't know how she doesn't. It doesn't you know.
- 42:49Speaker 1: But that's that's again, that's her dealing with her situation
- 42:52Speaker 1: because she's trying to pad everything and band aid it
- 42:55Speaker 1: up until her girls are older, you know. I think
- 42:57Speaker 1: that's what she's just trying to do. She's on that
- 42:59Speaker 1: like rodeo horse, and she's just like, I will hold
- 43:02Speaker 1: on until I can't anymore. And the girls are like
- 43:07Speaker 1: established on their own, maybe you know, all of them
- 43:12Speaker 1: are out of the house. She still has like Portia left.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Maybe she's just like holding on for dear life and
- 43:16Speaker 1: that's what she's gonna do.
- 43:17Speaker 2: She wants back with them.
- 43:18Speaker 1: You know.
- 43:19Speaker 2: I think she also just has a genuine window open
- 43:22Speaker 2: for a door open to like get him back, you know.
- 43:27Speaker 2: So there's that piece Switchedrey does not have. Well, I
- 43:31Speaker 2: think she had it in the beginning, but.
- 43:32Speaker 1: She did in the beginning. But yeah, not now, No,
- 43:34Speaker 1: not when he saw when she saw him with on
- 43:37Speaker 1: the street in those publicity photos with the London housewife
- 43:43Speaker 1: making out.
- 43:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it makes it harder because
- 43:48Speaker 2: it's like we're in the same situation, but a similar situation,
- 43:52Speaker 2: but like you can't really speak to it because we're not.
- 43:57Speaker 2: We are so far Yeah, our situations are so far
- 44:00Speaker 2: from each other, you know.
- 44:02Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is. And they cannot they just can't.
- 44:06Speaker 1: They can't hear it from And meeting with Moe was
- 44:11Speaker 1: just the wrong thing to do. And then seeing Mauricio
- 44:15Speaker 1: and Kyle talk that supports, you know, everything you're saying.
- 44:19Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle's just believing it hook line and sinker,
- 44:22Speaker 1: and I'm like, babe, babe, it's just not what you
- 44:26Speaker 1: think it is. It's just not all black and white.
- 44:29Speaker 1: It's not that either. So I am just really disappointed
- 44:34Speaker 1: that we did not get to the bottom of those
- 44:36Speaker 1: text messages that was on Durite's phone. They must have
- 44:40Speaker 1: edited it out or they didn't deal with it, like,
- 44:44Speaker 1: I don't know how. You don't just say she got
- 44:47Speaker 1: her phone out. She got her phone out to do that,
- 44:49Speaker 1: and then what happened, Like it could have been solved
- 44:53Speaker 1: right then where they would have discovered, well, either Marisa
- 44:57Speaker 1: would have thought she was lying and deleted the texts,
- 45:00Speaker 1: or he would have seen that she doesn't actually have
- 45:02Speaker 1: them on her phone. He could have shown her his
- 45:05Speaker 1: and then she'd be like, no, I have not seen
- 45:07Speaker 1: I mean genuinely, like, why couldn't we see that party?
- 45:09Speaker 2: Couldn't we lot one? I mean maybe there was stuff
- 45:12Speaker 2: about the kids. I don't know.
- 45:15Speaker 1: We didn't need to read the texts. We just needed
- 45:17Speaker 1: to know that they were there. She's saying. He hasn't
- 45:19Speaker 1: even reached out. He's saying he has multiple times. It's insane.
- 45:25Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the airport lounge where you
- 45:28Speaker 1: know Rachel has set up this Hampton's trip for just
- 45:31Speaker 1: Kyle and Deriy in order for them to potentially become
- 45:35Speaker 1: bus friends or at least friends, or at least people
- 45:38Speaker 1: who can be in the same room together and yeah,
- 45:41Speaker 1: that is awkward. You know, they're in this like room
- 45:44Speaker 1: that that private airport lounge, which is always fun to see.
- 45:48Speaker 1: I love being in there. What is that? Do you
- 45:52Speaker 1: know what like airline that is? It's like no private airline. Okay,
- 45:58Speaker 1: that's fine.
- 45:59Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but I love it.
- 46:02Speaker 2: And I want those little pancakes and those caviars and
- 46:05Speaker 2: I want to be you know, I want to experience that,
- 46:10Speaker 2: you know, I want to experience it looks it looks lovely.
- 46:15Speaker 1: I like that. Kyle and her confessional was like, this
- 46:18Speaker 1: is so awkward going on. Vaca. Asia was Almi that
- 46:21Speaker 1: you're and not even talking to and she's in a
- 46:23Speaker 1: weird mood because she's late. Yep, yep, that's about it.
- 46:30Speaker 1: And them talking about how little they sleep the night
- 46:33Speaker 1: they how little they slept the night before and Rachel's like, no,
- 46:37Speaker 1: I slept like an hour and a half. And I
- 46:38Speaker 1: was like, this is so great to see, you know,
- 46:41Speaker 1: because it definitely pulls the curtain back on the schedule
- 46:46Speaker 1: that they have to abide to. And I mean we
- 46:49Speaker 1: every person in the world who has traveled has had
- 46:52Speaker 1: like the most if they're busy in their lives has
- 46:54Speaker 1: had the most chaotic night before they leave, and a
- 46:58Speaker 1: lot of the times people really don't go to bed
- 47:01Speaker 1: before they leave if they've got so much stuff to do.
- 47:04Speaker 1: That doesn't often happen. That doesn't happen to me every time.
- 47:07Speaker 1: But the night before I leave typically, especially over the
- 47:11Speaker 1: last couple of years, it is I am up until
- 47:14Speaker 1: like three thirty in the morning, and I'm I mean,
- 47:18Speaker 1: I go to sleep at like three thirty in the
- 47:19Speaker 1: morning and then I'm up at five o'clock. So I
- 47:22Speaker 1: completely resonated with that complain.
- 47:25Speaker 2: I mean, Amy, I've wore witness to it with my
- 47:27Speaker 2: own body and eyes in Vegas where oh, where you
- 47:34Speaker 2: fled in the in the deep, deep, deep heart of
- 47:38Speaker 2: the night, and you just like we're gathering and packing.
- 47:41Speaker 2: I mean, I never saw nothing like it, and I
- 47:43Speaker 2: won't never forget it. So I literally was like, oh,
- 47:49Speaker 2: she goes, there, she goes, It's totally there.
- 47:52Speaker 1: She goes, yeah, And you know it's not we do
- 47:56Speaker 1: this to ourselves, you know. And when Rachel is always
- 47:58Speaker 1: in every scene is since the two thousand and you
- 48:01Speaker 1: know eight or whatever, She's like, I'm dying, Like I'm
- 48:04Speaker 1: so tired because I've been up for like seventy two hours. Yeah,
- 48:08Speaker 1: I mean she's been doing it since then. I've been
- 48:10Speaker 1: doing it since then. Like we do this to our
- 48:12Speaker 1: own selves. It's nothing, so fine with it, but like
- 48:16Speaker 1: it's just nice to see ye people you know, get
- 48:20Speaker 1: doing that. And I loved it. And also I love
- 48:23Speaker 1: that Rachel was like calling out Kyle for being such
- 48:25Speaker 1: a wet noodle about it. She's like, yeah, Kyle like
- 48:28Speaker 1: doesn't like want to go out, and she's like not drinking,
- 48:32Speaker 1: and she says that she's tired.
- 48:37Speaker 2: Red for Phil.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Read I think to your point about we didn't see,
- 48:42Speaker 1: we didn't know what we were going to get with
- 48:44Speaker 1: Rachel's Oh and so not only is she bringing us
- 48:47Speaker 1: like the Roger Drag files through every episode, but she's
- 48:52Speaker 1: also popping in with some nice burns here and there,
- 48:55Speaker 1: which is.
- 48:56Speaker 2: Yeah, not yeah, she expected engaging. She's firing firing up
- 49:02Speaker 2: and firing off, you know, like we're you know, most
- 49:05Speaker 2: of the time, Erica is just frozen faced and never
- 49:10Speaker 2: weighing in and just protecting.
- 49:14Speaker 1: H Yeah, by the way, not weighing in. Did you
- 49:19Speaker 1: see how how much energy an adrenaline she got when
- 49:23Speaker 1: she heard that people were in the Hamptons and she wasn't.
- 49:27Speaker 2: I have literally never seen her except those times when
- 49:31Speaker 2: she was fighting.
- 49:34Speaker 1: Her What.
- 49:37Speaker 2: Yeah, she really had a rod go through her.
- 49:42Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting. Bolt and then in her confessional
- 49:49Speaker 1: just being like, manifesting millions is what I should be
- 49:52Speaker 1: in the Hamptons. I'm like, what, right, what exactly does
- 49:57Speaker 1: that mean?
- 49:58Speaker 2: I don't know. I was like, yeah, okay, that that tracks.
- 50:02Speaker 1: But also like one more thing, and then I want
- 50:06Speaker 1: to talk about Amanda and what Erica said about her. Okay,
- 50:10Speaker 1: Kyle calling out Rachel by being like, she's been saying
- 50:15Speaker 1: hot girl summer, and then her friend and assistant Jen
- 50:18Speaker 1: was like, isn't hot girl summer like two summers ago?
- 50:21Speaker 1: It's so funny that Rachel's just like got girls, hot
- 50:25Speaker 1: girls summer. Wait.
- 50:27Speaker 2: But like I also was thinking to myself, was it
- 50:31Speaker 2: just hot girl summer globally two years ago or for
- 50:35Speaker 2: Kyle two years ago?
- 50:37Speaker 1: Like I couldn't globally like it was a trend. It
- 50:40Speaker 1: was a trend two summers ago. She's right, maybe even longer,
- 50:44Speaker 1: maybe three summers ago. Well, actually it would have been
- 50:47Speaker 1: three summers ago because if they shot this, Yeah, it's
- 50:50Speaker 1: a long time.
- 50:50Speaker 2: And it was like the pandemic was lifted and people
- 50:53Speaker 2: were feeling themselves and they wanted to get their hot
- 50:56Speaker 2: girl summer on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
- 50:58Speaker 1: Maybe that's not I don't know, but.
- 51:00Speaker 2: Listen, leave Rachel alone and let her. She's like, again,
- 51:05Speaker 2: she has to have her hot girl summer, you know.
- 51:08Speaker 1: Yeah, she was too busy to have it, and now
- 51:11Speaker 1: it's not. I like that. She's stuck that she wants
- 51:15Speaker 1: to stick that landing and she's gonna do it late,
- 51:19Speaker 1: no matter, like whenever she wants to be it late
- 51:22Speaker 1: or not. Okay. When Erica is dragging Amanda for having
- 51:28Speaker 1: a scam, it makes my blood boil, it does. I'm sorry,
- 51:34Speaker 1: Uh oh, what happened?
- 51:38Speaker 2: Yeah, it's moving what you're saying.
- 51:40Speaker 1: I can't, don't. She needs to leave, leave the room. No,
- 51:44Speaker 1: we're not. I can't. I can't have her back on that.
- 51:47Speaker 1: You know, other people can poke holes in it, and
- 51:50Speaker 1: that's fine, but not her. Not her. By the way
- 51:53Speaker 1: she's doing.
- 51:54Speaker 2: It, my stomach is on the ground. I didn't put
- 51:58Speaker 2: that together.
- 52:00Speaker 1: She's saying. I did. She's like, thank you, I'm glad
- 52:03Speaker 1: that you're seeing it.
- 52:03Speaker 2: Like false, She's like, you literally lived an entire lifestyle
- 52:10Speaker 2: off of American scamming, and you got to do whatever
- 52:14Speaker 2: you did, and how much of it all and you
- 52:18Speaker 2: lived and breathed and benefited from the most horrific scams. Yeah,
- 52:24Speaker 2: and just disgusting. This girl's just an entrepreneur. And if
- 52:28Speaker 2: people want to buy what she's selling, great.
- 52:30Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And on that note, Amanda Is, I know,
- 52:38Speaker 1: we've had our thoughts on her. We've been very frank,
- 52:40Speaker 1: we've been aligning with the public on it. And that's
- 52:44Speaker 1: completely you know, tracks And I don't appreciate people making
- 52:49Speaker 1: fun of her for the Barbie thing, okay, because first
- 52:52Speaker 1: of all, okay, Barbie was one of the first empowered
- 52:59Speaker 1: characters to hit a generation that never before had seen
- 53:03Speaker 1: women as dolls do different things, okay, And so many
- 53:09Speaker 1: young girls of the seventies and then moving up into
- 53:12Speaker 1: the eighties looked at Barbie as something that they could
- 53:16Speaker 1: aspire to and credit to Barbie as they evolved into
- 53:21Speaker 1: different having different careers, being a business person, being a lifeguard,
- 53:26Speaker 1: being a flight attendant. You know, I don't know, but
- 53:30Speaker 1: there were tons There are hundreds of Barbies that young
- 53:34Speaker 1: girls can look to now. Albeit it took a long
- 53:39Speaker 1: time to get it ethnically and culturally diverse. So but
- 53:47Speaker 1: we ended up getting there. And and so I really
- 53:51Speaker 1: hate I'm hating on the people that are making fun
- 53:53Speaker 1: of her for her Barbie dreams as the Barbie dream
- 53:57Speaker 1: House looking over Maliboun. But guess what, she fucking got it, guys.
- 54:03Speaker 1: She did fucking get it, and it was a dream
- 54:06Speaker 1: of hers and she attained it. And I am not
- 54:08Speaker 1: going to sit here and shit on that. I just won't.
- 54:11Speaker 1: And I think it's and you know, I've seen a
- 54:13Speaker 1: lot of people say it is men. I've seen a
- 54:15Speaker 1: lot of people who are snarky about her Barbie thing
- 54:18Speaker 1: and making fun of it, and I say, fuck you,
- 54:21Speaker 1: because you don't know what it was like to be
- 54:23Speaker 1: a woman in the sixties and into the seventies, where
- 54:28Speaker 1: finally Barbie started to evolve into someone who could actually
- 54:31Speaker 1: show up at work. And what about the Barbie movie.
- 54:36Speaker 1: Weren't we all just celebrating the Barbie movie a couple
- 54:38Speaker 1: of years ago? Weren't we all just doing that.
- 54:42Speaker 2: Preach? I agree? I agree, No, no, And I wasn't aware,
- 54:51Speaker 2: and I probably took it lightly. And I think you've
- 54:53Speaker 2: gotten me settled and sorted and situated, you know, and
- 54:57Speaker 2: thank you Amy well.
- 54:59Speaker 1: And you know, the editing didn't help Amanda. They put
- 55:02Speaker 1: like quirky music behind her, made fun of her emotional tears,
- 55:07Speaker 1: and I get it, Like, trust me, I understand. And
- 55:09Speaker 1: it seems trite when someone's like Barbie is what I
- 55:15Speaker 1: saw her in her dream house, in her corvette and
- 55:18Speaker 1: the next thing you know, I'm in Beverly Hills my
- 55:20Speaker 1: pink corvette. And it's like, yeah, you can laugh at
- 55:23Speaker 1: that all you want, right, but let's talk about some
- 55:25Speaker 1: other women who have risen up through the ranks. Who's
- 55:30Speaker 1: idol or whose example in life because they had no
- 55:33Speaker 1: other female example was Barbie. I mean, they exist, and
- 55:37Speaker 1: they've talked about it, and I don't write one example
- 55:39Speaker 1: right now, but I know they exist.
- 55:41Speaker 2: I mean it. You don't need it, you know, it's
- 55:44Speaker 2: absolutely And as you say that, I'm like, yeah, I
- 55:47Speaker 2: never I don't think I ever considered anything but that
- 55:53Speaker 2: was Barbie's mansion. Like I never thought, oh, Ken kicked
- 55:58Speaker 2: in for this mansion, Like I always like, it's Barbie's mansion.
- 56:03Speaker 2: And that is very powerful, you know.
- 56:07Speaker 1: It was the stepping stone to where we are today
- 56:10Speaker 1: and where we will continue to be as women, you know.
- 56:14Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. Sometimes simplicity is very effective.
- 56:21Speaker 2: And I think for Amanda, do I think she's eaten
- 56:25Speaker 2: up with brains.
- 56:26Speaker 1: No.
- 56:27Speaker 2: I think that she believes everything she says, and I
- 56:34Speaker 2: think the effects are really powerful for her. It's clean
- 56:40Speaker 2: and clear for her, and she believes it and it happens.
- 56:47Speaker 2: So there's something to be said for that too. Like
- 56:51Speaker 2: sometimes people just are working really hard in the wrong direction,
- 56:54Speaker 2: and I don't think Amanda is. I think she's like
- 56:58Speaker 2: very focused on on her brand and all of that,
- 57:01Speaker 2: and it's honestly there's something to learn from it.
- 57:08Speaker 1: For me. There are definitely, you know, some pillars to
- 57:13Speaker 1: take away and there are others to not, you know,
- 57:16Speaker 1: I mean, just like everything, and we will. I'm sure
- 57:20Speaker 1: we'll get there, and I'm sure that we'll start to
- 57:23Speaker 1: continue to unpeel this banana and see where we're at.
- 57:26Speaker 1: But for right now, in this episode, I just want
- 57:30Speaker 1: to stick by her with the Barbie example. Now, when
- 57:34Speaker 1: Sutton calls her out on, you know, being a whimp
- 57:38Speaker 1: and to like you, you know, I know a little
- 57:40Speaker 1: something about this group and you really need to own it.
- 57:43Speaker 1: I did feel like she made great points. Amanda's not
- 57:46Speaker 1: receiving that. She's not receiving it, and that's on her.
- 57:49Speaker 1: And you know what, but that's a housewife thing. Okay,
- 57:51Speaker 1: I can separate that. Every housewife to some degree is
- 57:55Speaker 1: going to be delusional and not accept responsibility or take
- 58:00Speaker 1: ownership or I'm sorry you feel that way. And Amanda
- 58:02Speaker 1: is clearly, you know, filling that part. Unfortunate. I hope
- 58:09Speaker 1: she gets it because she's getting the good piece of
- 58:11Speaker 1: advice from Sutton pretty frank actually, and she's still like
- 58:16Speaker 1: but Sutton, I this and that and the other thing.
- 58:20Speaker 1: And I was like, babe, you lost you. You're losing
- 58:23Speaker 1: me over here, you know. So she's gonna lose me.
- 58:26Speaker 1: She lost me there.
- 58:27Speaker 2: Oh she's lost Like she's lost me. But I mean
- 58:30Speaker 2: that's not to say. The other thing that's hard is that,
- 58:36Speaker 2: and this pretty much goes throughout all the franchises. It
- 58:39Speaker 2: is hard to be the younger woman on these shows.
- 58:42Speaker 2: It's the upside down world.
- 58:44Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're gonna get you. They're gonna comfort you.
- 58:48Speaker 2: And having this little party is like with the book
- 58:53Speaker 2: and the journals, it's like that's something in my thirties,
- 58:58Speaker 2: you know I would have thought was fun and you
- 59:00Speaker 2: and I can get with all of that stuff. I
- 59:03Speaker 2: have my Carol. There's nothing change your paradigm, change your life.
- 59:08Speaker 2: There's nothing hold on dreams and schemes. There's nothing.
- 59:13Speaker 1: Yes, damn show and tell. Yes, do you know what
- 59:16Speaker 1: I'm saying?
- 59:16Speaker 2: Like I'm with it. All that said, you can't these
- 59:24Speaker 2: women know what collectively they've been through, what collectively they
- 59:30Speaker 2: bring to the table. You can't have this type of
- 59:35Speaker 2: event for them.
- 59:38Speaker 1: No, it can't work. And even this not being about
- 59:43Speaker 1: what she said about Durret's marriage, it's like read the
- 59:49Speaker 1: room in general. Yeah, this is not the party, you know,
- 59:54Speaker 1: this is like so you're going to give them an
- 59:57Speaker 1: example of what your like, your class meetup would be.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: I guess your master class. Ye, like where you.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: Get a glass, you get a book, and you get
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: a journal and then you do this. Okay, I think
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: h I think the manifestation part of it was fine
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: and cool and like that is definitely in the realm
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: of the housewives world where we get together and we
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: do something. Okay, sure that that tracks. I mean the glass,
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: lose it, the you know, the book, you know, lose it.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Maybe maybe have it at the door. There you go
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: to go have it at the door and be like
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: part and if you know, just be like, you don't
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: need to read this, no pressure, like I am not
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: just like you want to be friends with these people,
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: You're not trying to be their mentor or you know,
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: you're She is like her whole thing is like reaching
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: out to the audience watching in to the people in
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: front of her who she's on this fucking show with.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: So she needs to read the room, as everyone has said,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: including Kathy, who was probably doing eight things instead of
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: listening to what they were doing. But for her to
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: be like Kathy said, or you know you were you're
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: gonna be get your little tail in hot water what
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: Kathy piped in it takes a lot.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was hard to watch. It was
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: also the most brilliant like cutbacks and forth between Donna Karen.
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: We're living, We're with Rachel's sister. We are at the
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: most gorgeous Russian I feel the warm air I'm living.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: I am Donna high. Oh my god, you're gagging, Kyle
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: like to this. You know, Amanda's audience is young women,
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: and they are gonna look up to what she's achieved,
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: and even Erica has said she has said she's doing
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: something right, like something she it's working for her, even
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: if maybe there's a scam aspect of it, like what
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: you were saying. But like I know, Erica is going like, Okay,
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: you're doing something right. But she can't be schooling these
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: they're not looking up. It's just the strong, wrong, wrong.
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: Have a dinner, have some drinks, have like something fun
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: to do if you need everybody to come over. It
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: was also weird to be back in Kyle's house. I
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: started to get creeped out.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Yeah, and that to me is like why did you
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: move in there?
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: And it's got creepy for it hadn't been creepy to
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: me until last night. Hmmm, I got a weird feeling inside.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: Yeah, well it sung It started to sink in with
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: me when Kyle went over there to take a tour
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: and I was like, this is very weird that she's
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: on this show and this is Kyle's house, Like this
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: is very getting strange. And then to be in there
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: again and like when Erica in her confessional dragged Amanda
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: again where she's like a copy of her self published book. Yeah,
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: that's a drag. I can't have it coming from Erica
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: right now. I just can't have it. I'm not going
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: to receive it. So it's not points. Yeah, it's not
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: points for her. It wasn't. I find out that it
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: was self published. But you know what, she's at least
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: she's fucking doing something. At least she's fucking doing something.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: I think she's made a ton of money off of
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: that book. I really do.
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: Good for her.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: She'd have to share the publishing.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a could do. And you know
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: she wrote it herself. She wrote herself. She just assume
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: everybody wrote theirselfs And she's probably gonna be like, well,
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: I just assumed everyone self published their book. That's what
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: they do, right.
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't go down easy. She's not right for
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: this show. I mean did she? I'm also are.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: Very entertaining, but no, she's not right for this group.
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: She's no, you're right, she's not right for this show period.
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: Dot. I agree, Like if we have to, like, if
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: I look at Crystal of the same age.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Group, yes, yes, I still thinking about.
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was way more just entrenched and into
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: the socialite scene and throwing parties with all these ages
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: like she wasn't you know, friends with Kathy, Like she
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: was of this world and a younger version of it,
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: right right, Amanda. I don't think we're ever going to
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: see a picture of Like, I don't think we're going
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: to meet a friend. Like I don't sense a friend,
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: you know, I don't sense a friend is lurking anywhere.
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: And I also m, yeah, it's and I think we
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: know something terrible's coming because she's great. She stopped doing
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: the after shows and.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Well she there was that rumor that she stopped filming,
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: and that's not true. She did. That was just a rumor.
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: Oh and and she's going to show up at the
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: reunion and like, so some of that is just rumors, okay, okay,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: And I yeah, I don't know about the after show.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: I thought that they like film those already, so I
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: think they're already like in the can, but I could
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: be wrong. So okay, well hold on a second. Here,
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: is there anything else that we got to get to?
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: I know, we're running out of time.
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: Love seeing Rachel's sister.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: Oh, Pamela, Yeah.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: Great to see her. Yeah, vibes were just up in
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: that house, you know, Like I liked. I liked seeing
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: Kyle and Dey get giddy.
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Yeah, that Donna Karen moment was incredible.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: I can't now I'm saying moment. I got to take
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: that back. I'm not leaving that in there, no, because
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: I can't be like everything is a moment, you know
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: how Amanda's like everything the moment.
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: It's a different usage of Okay, it was literally a
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: Donna Karen moment.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: Okay, fine, thank you, all right. You know, I'm triggered
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: by saying it, but yeah, that was incredible. I mean,
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: it was incredible. She's a living legend. And to then
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: have just a quick flashback and hear a little bit
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: about Rachel's story that when she was twenty two in
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: New York City and how kind she was to her.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: Very cool, I mean, and just how breezy Rachel was.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: What Donna Karen was fun, Yeah, because it's like, oh, yeah,
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: Rachel is the fashion you know, like there's no one
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: who she hasn't dealt with in this industry and like
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: been on the ground floor with just get to understand
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: where Rachel's been by that yeah moment.
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: Just by that moment, and she did gave Michael cores
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: a shout out saying how kind he was, and Kyle
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: was like, oh my, I'm like I didn't care.
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: She was so excited she was, and we don't see
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: that very often. No, So that was fun. It really
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: that was fun. So that was that was fun. I
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: had fun with that. So good.
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: Okay, I really liked hearing how like twenty twenty four
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: things got really bad with Rachel and her sister was.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: She was like, she was like putting at a vent
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: in my mouth that she took from my mom because
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: I couldn't brace. She was like crushing it up in
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: her mouth and feeding it to me like I was
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: a baby bart like I was. Finally, after that, I
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: like went to the Hamptons and there and I was like,
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: so this is what it's like to be a lunge.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: I like this, this is better, Like this is so
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: much better than being with that other person. Wow, great story,
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: Great to have both of you back. Really at the
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: end of the day, honestly, honestly, who.
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: Would have ever thought, I mean, my gosh, so happy
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: for her, you know. And and and the long term
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: of this is that I hope that it doesn't backfire
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: like so many do you know, I am. We're so aware.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: We have a history of ladies who have were before
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: who have come back and then have blown their shit
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: up and then it ruins, you know, the history, and
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: then yeah, the now, and I just cannot have that
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: happen with her, and so I just I almost hope
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: she comes in she does this season and then she
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: goes like, I don't know, I just don't want anything
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: to happen.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: It would probably be for the best.
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just hope that any skeletons that are in
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: her closet or you know, in her birke gun don't
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: come out.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: Well, this was just a great episode. I'm so happy
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: that we got to talk about it Deanna, and I'm
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: just I'm excited for Beverly Hills in general. It looks
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: like things are going to get really good. And everyone
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: please follow Deanna M. Chang over on social media and
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- 1:09:47Speaker 1: the way you look. And there's a podcast and a
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