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European Round-Up + SPFL Look Ahead! · Scots With A Mic

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Scotland. Hello and welcome to another
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edition of Scots with a Mic. We're back for another exciting
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show talking all in Scottish football over the course of the
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last few days. I'm Aaron Mackintosh and joining
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me here this week is Adam Gorgie Talk.
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Adam, welcome to the. Show.
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Hi, Aaron. How are you doing?
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I'm not. Too bad.
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And how? Are you?
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Yeah. Good, good.
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Good to be on together. Good.
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To be on together. This is our first one together,
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so it's quite good to finally be on together.
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Yes, definitely, because. We've heard we've heard our
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other shows, but we've not been on together.
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So it's good to have another like voice to to familiarize
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ourselves with and tones to go with.
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So that's fantastic that we're on together.
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Not before time. Exactly perfect.
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Hope you had a good week Adam. We've got a lot to cover in a
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short space of time so we'll try and get started very quickly by
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talking about the League Cup, four games over the course of
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the last few days, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Rangers, Hibs,
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Kilmarnock, St. Mirren, Partick Thistle, Celtic.
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We'll go to pedagogy first of all, and Aberdeen losing by go
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to nil. Reagan, Charles Cook scoring the
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only goal for Motherwell. And let's get get right into
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what do you think's going wrong at Aberdeen so far?
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I mean, we're seeing things that are quite similar like with
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teams with Celtic and Rangers in Europe and you know, they're
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going bad runs the their long confidence.
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They probably have a lot of games in a short space of time.
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Do you think this is another case like this or do you think
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there might be more to it? It's tough to put your finger on
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it, to be honest. I think the hardest thing, if I
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was an Aberdeen fan, I think the hardest thing to get over, as
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well as the amount of investment.
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So obviously there's been a lot of money put to Jimmy to lean
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and a lot spent over that time on on a various amount of
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players, some of which he knows really well, some obviously from
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other different places, but come in with reasonable like
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reputations from where they're coming from.
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And it just for whatever reason, hasn't worked out.
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I mean, it hasn't been working out for quite a while, though.
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I mean, if you think about that spell from like October, I think
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it was about October time all the way through for newer the
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rest of the season part for another beef spell without
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positive results. And then that Scottish Cup 1.
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I mean that Scottish Cup one obviously does buy them time,
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but how much time I'm I'm a bit unsure.
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When you look at the table and you don't see any goals scored.
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You don't see, you know, anything really going right.
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And then obviously now that game at the weekend, I mean, it's
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hard because the Motherwell one, I did see bits and pieces over
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in a dead fuel at Aberdeen looked a bit passive about
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ideas, which is a bit concerning.
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We've only just started the season.
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Yeah. And I mean, Motherwell, all
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correct them. You know, they've been doing
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really well under the new coaching and they seem to be
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buying and is stale of football. And I'm not the only Hearts fan
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that said, like when I see Motherwell at Tank Castle that
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first half that like I haven't seen a Donald Firm team put that
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well at Tank Castle. Like for I thought Kevin,
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remember to be honest, mate. And so like, yeah, they were
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really, really good, but I don't I don't think there was that
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much in it like in the cup game by the by what I've seen.
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But certainly they just looked to fall a little bit better more
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they will, but the movement looked a bit better.
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They just looked a little bit more dangerous than Aberdeen
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was. Aberdeen just looked like a bit
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lost. I don't know if it is the new
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guys, I don't know if it's maybe losing a bit of faith.
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Whoever the game that goes by, it's hard to put a finger on it.
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But yes, they're going to start getting restless pretty soon I
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think if it contents. They have said that because they
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had a difficult start of the season with, you know, you've
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got your Hearts away at Tynecastle, then you've got
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Celtic at home. Yeah.
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But then you've got, you know, a run of games where you think
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they should be winning games. I mean, they they got through
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past Morton quite fine in the cup.
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You know, three goals scored. That's their only three goals in
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the domestic season. Obviously they scored goals in
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Europe, but you know, in domestic season the only goals
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they've scored has been in one game against Morton.
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And then they've had games, you know, at home as well against
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the two promoted teams. And obviously they're going to
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make it difficult anyway, but they should be thinking, I mean,
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Abdeen should be thinking to get, you know, at least six
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points from those from those games.
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And it's just amazing how, you know, you've seen this new guy
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come in for from obviously Scandinavia.
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You know, all the Aberdeen supporters really believed in
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this guy, in him. Jimmy Talin, he's got
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investment. He's got you know, they've said
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that they want to give him as much time as possible to try and
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split, you know, Celtic and Rangers as much as possible if
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that's ever going to happen. We do obviously it's great to
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have ambition and you know, we're talking about Hearts as
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well, having ambition. So hopefully maybe one day that
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will happen with one of the two. But certainly, you know, ever
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since I think it was probably the semi final last season in
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the League Cup, which is, you know, transformed Aberdeen
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season, they'll do. I think it was it 6 nil at
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Hampden against. Celtic in Spain.
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It's just been on a dangle spur when yes, you can see they've
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won the Scottish Cup and you can see that, you know, you know,
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they're in Europe and so that should give them a little bit of
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time, you know, just to help as well.
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But there's only so much that that Scottish Cup when we do for
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him, don't you think? Yeah, exactly.
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I think it's just probably bought that alongside the
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investment that he's been given, probably buys them a bit more
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time. I think the other thing that's
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grown in my mind as well as obviously they've got the group
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stage, Europe come in and obviously that first day, Sunday
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or whatever day is, this is Jubilee, Thursday, Sunday.
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And yeah, that takes its toll. And if you've not already got
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points in the bank anyway and better mind that than abundance,
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the points that started last season because they couldn't
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lose. So they were running every game
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until they got obviously, you know, I suppose put in their
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place by Celtic in the League Cup.
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And that sent them on a bit of a spiral.
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But they had they had those points in the band that kept
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them obviously up there, then had a little run after the turn
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of the year. And then, yeah, like you say,
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they got that that victory. So, yeah, it's going to be a bit
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concern and wants to start facing teams in Europe and they
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have that to contend. But on top of the fact that
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they're in a pretty precarious position because if they still
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start getting points in the board and they're having to
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juggle that as well, then it starts to become a bit about
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like we need to get ourselves up this table because the European
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table is going to go away soon. That's going to be over.
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You know, whether it whether it's if they do get the top 24,
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whatever, but you know, that's only going to run so many months
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and that the the bread of butter is going to have to be half to
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get. I mean, you've got to imagine
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minimum for Jimmy Tulene's top 6.
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So he's the way off at the moment.
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And it's going to turn into relegation safety battle will be
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the the next finger. And I don't think Aberdeen fans
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would ever have thought they'd been saying that in September.
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So it's a bit what what in signs I would say for them.
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And yeah, Europe's just around the corner, so I can't quite put
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my finger on it. But again, there's been a lot of
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changes. There've been a lot of new
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players and maybe just trying to bed and but it's just more, I
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don't know when I watched that all of us, I've seen them at
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Tynecastle and then I watched them again and I just thought
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don't look like a team that's got a lot of a lot of ideas.
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They don't look like they've got much upfront either, like the
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Hajjiangi who I've found my own comments on my own pages about
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them and and just sort of saying like it's not really the
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candidate player they're looking for.
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They'd maybe be better off with Livingston Jenga than their own
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one and stuff like that, which is a bit tongue in cheap, but
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you know, just like and they got Nesbet and I'd even even if I
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take that sort of biased hat off, I think like witness, but
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sometimes it's a bit flatters to deceive a little bit and he's a
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bit hit a mess. So you might not get that
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running form from this. But so if you've not got that
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number 9, that's where they are going to suffer because they
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then they look like they've got the the white players or the
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number tends to put the goals in it and their place.
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I think they're hoping a lot of that Carlson.
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I've not really had much time to see much of how he's played, but
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certainly came out with a pedigree.
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But yes, it's a strange one when you look at the names on their
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team sheet like they're not 11 and a bit better than the
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Arsenal. It does ask the question about
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the manager. Quality that he brings as well,
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just like from Bologna as well, doesn't he?
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And you that just excites you because I think he was a bit
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part player. I mean, I don't I've not seen
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too much Bologna apart from looking up for Lewis Ferguson.
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Yeah, just, you know, seeing him know what he's capable of and I
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think he's worked with the manager before as well, so that
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that might help. Obviously it takes time as well.
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It's a deadline day signing as well, so take a little bit of
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time for him to be. Let's go talk about Motherwell
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quite quickly. They're fruits.
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Semifinals. Yep.
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You, you said how good they were at Tynecastle for that first
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hour or so they played well. How good a job is the the new
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manager doing? Because he's come in a little
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bit, you know, I see the the list of teams he's managed or
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coached in very good high standard quality.
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But he still comes in a little bit of an unknown.
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But I think the longer he's been in Scottish football, the more
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like praises getting. I think they're still needing to
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get that win in the league but they're still playing quite
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well. They're still playing a good for
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and you don't expect Motherwell to always play that standard of
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football and that's no offence to them, but it's a very good
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brand of football that Motherwell trying to do.
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Yes. So I think I think a lot of
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credit needs to go with the manager for and still in that
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kind of football that early in a season when he's not really had,
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you know, an abundance of time with that squad, the players.
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So obviously, again, they've been recruiting as as they go.
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And yeah, it was impressive to see them obviously come to Tank
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Castle and do what they did. It was impressive again, for
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them. It'd be not arguably not at
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their best against Aberdeen and stole managing to go there and
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get a win at Pitoggy, which regardless say Aberdeen's
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obviously form is still a hard place to go and get a victory.
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So and yeah, obviously I support Hamden though for them in the
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semi final. So it's it's well deserved based
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on early season form and a lot of credit for for the stale of
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football. I think him and they've got like
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quite a few impressive players. Like it's it's one of them where
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you look at the names and don't really know much about them, but
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I think we'll all know them soon enough and send the monster
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dumb. But yeah, I think I can't.
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The name eludes me. The previous manager that they
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had that then just disappeared under his name, but it was the
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same kind of idea. So Motherwell's clearly got an
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idea in their head for the kind of coach they want in.
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So whoever the previous man, I forgot his name actually bad.
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The previous man had that. Then he had to leave and then go
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back home else or German something.
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But in yeah, you can see that the idea they wanted and if
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they've you know, maybe just that that that better feat that
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they end up with the coach that they've got.
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But yeah, my little really, really good.
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And it was it was more the fact that as well exceeding they're
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in dangerous possessions, like in their own like 18 yard 25
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yards to their own goal. There wasn't like any panic
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about their play like Motherwell teams of of old, they'd be, you
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know, be lumping it away, you know, atmospheres, crowds like
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putting them off unfazed, like completely unfazed by the whole
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situation. Defenders playing out of
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trouble. The three centre midfielders
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they had were like really, really in our Lincoln.
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Well, everyone was like 1-2 touch as well.
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Like there wasn't as like they've put together for a long
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time. She's really, really worked on,
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you know, like how they dominate the spaces and how they they
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find those gaps to get themselves from back to front
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quite quickly and put teams under pressure.
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So yeah, there'll be a good watch this season, I think, and
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they've earned the right to get to that semifinal.
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Well, without, because the star player we always talked about
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last season with Motherwell was Lennon Miller.
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We always talked about, and they're doing it without him as
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well. They're showing that they're not
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just this, you know, obviously I had so many good, good players,
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but he was always the standard because he was Scottish, you
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know, he was young and he was developing, you know, I think he
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was the captain at the semi final last year, 18 years old.
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Yeah, you. Know so he's doing all this
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without arguably their star player from last season, which
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is quite incredible. So yeah, good to see Motherwell
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go through into the the the semi final and a great pick up as
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well. Just to end with them Regan
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Charles Cook, somebody who I really liked when he was at Ross
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County from a few seasons ago and I think that's a great
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signing for them and they're going to do for them to get him
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into the club first. I didn't even know he was
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available for transfer. So the work they've done to get
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him in there is fantastic. So great piece of business for
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Motherwell getting him in. Let's go to Ibrox.
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All this the pressure. You know, I think it's been a
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week of pressure non-stop going on and on and on yeah, Martin on
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and off the patch as well. You mean we've seen the protest
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inside the stadium, you know, the banners.
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I think there was tennis balls thrown as well into the yeah, it
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was just so, so much that's happened in the short space of
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time. How big could this?
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It's hard to describe, but how big could this win be over Hibs?
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Or do you think it's just something that's just going to,
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it's a one time thing and then when it gets back to the league,
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that's when he's going to be judged upon?
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Or do you think if they lost against Hebs he would have been
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at the door? I thought, yeah, well, I had
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visions that there was a chance that Hibs would do what Hearts
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did the week before. It was very likely based on how
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Hibs obviously the the games have had early season, the
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qualifiers have played good teams, showed themselves up
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really well. And then they're playing again a
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an out of form and an out of sorts Rangers team.
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I thought there is a chance they're going to do what Hearts
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did. And then Ranger, if Rangers,
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then you know, let's say the dense, the adrenal null with
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Celtics with no goal there beat the hearts to know.
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And then again, you could argue beat for herbs the questions
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start doing, but there's not one for like 3 games, Ibrox and
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games that they would be expecting to get results.
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But I think the key factor was Nicole Raskin.
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To be honest, it pains me to say it because I feel like it's all
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everybody's talked about, but that you could tell the cane the
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weight off other people's shoulders, not just Martins, but
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I mean the on the pitch, like just his presence, that sort of
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ability to read the game and and pop that ball about and get into
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good, good areas and put the ball in good areas.
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And it kind of just made sense. Click a wee bit better for
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Rangers. I would say it was a small gain
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than getting the one because at the same time, like I do think
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Hibs have been better as well. I don't think Hibs had their
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best game, to be honest, and I think a better Hibs would have
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made that really difficult. Equally saw the goal that got
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chopped off, albeit was a handball, but you know, if that
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had counted, for example, it wasn't I say it was a legitimate
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goal. You could imagine how it would
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turn same way it turned when they played Hearts.
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So yeah, it's I don't think it there wasn't very very much
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happening in terms of atmosphere either.
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Like it felt like being just fans were just if they win, they
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win. If they don't, they don't
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because it's like they just sort of the the vibe was more about
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we still want Martin out anyway. And I think that's been the
16:53
general consensus in the media is what is he going to have to
16:55
actually do to overturn funds that and his own words didn't
17:00
want him there in the 1st place. So yes, that's a kind that's a
17:04
long road ahead. And I think, you know, if we do
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touch on it lately later in the in the podcast about them in
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Europe, then yeah, that's going to be another big factor, of
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course, isn't about how it's going in Europe.
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If these the results start happening then and he does start
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to keep up the table, which you'll need to because they're
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nearly holding up, then, then yeah, he might keep the wheels
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for the door. Yeah, it's.
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A hard European run that they've got, they've got.
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Oh yeah, you. Know they've got Genka at home
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to start with and I've got the list of the teams here.
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So Genka at home, yeah. Grass away, Brand away, Roma at
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home, Braga at home, Finis Varus away, Lucrets at home, Porto
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away. That's, you know, there's some
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teams there that you could see that they are Champions League
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standard clubs. You know, Roma, obviously it's
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all about the squads at the time and stuff, but obviously Roma's
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always been amongst the biggest clubs, you know, in in Italian
17:55
football. Porto, you know, they're a
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Champions League standard football club.
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If they're not in the Champions League, they're always doing
18:03
relatively well in the Europa League as well.
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So that that's a challenge and a half to try.
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And you know, I still think they'll get through OK to the
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knockouts, but it's a challenge and a half to try and get good
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performances out of this. But we've seen that it's been so
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consistent of the last few years.
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Doesn't matter who's in the job. Rangers always seem to get the
18:21
European results fine. It's always the domestic stuff
18:25
that they struggle with and so it wouldn't surprise me if they
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do go on a good run against all these teams but then go and
18:32
play, let's see, Livingston away from home and you know, struggle
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and get and draw or lose it. It's it's standard, it's
18:42
becoming quite standard that they're losing games that should
18:46
be in domestic football after European matches.
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So it just beggars belief anyway, that's I was going to
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mention Nicole Raskin because it kind of felt like as soon as
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you've seen him in the team, it kind of felt like he's either
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going to, you know, create a goal.
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He's either going to be the headline, right, the right
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headline right here. Or, you know, it's kind of like
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it was meant to be, wasn't it, that he was going to get on the
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score sheet on Saturday? Yeah.
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So I'm on the score sheet. And then I think another
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valuable 1 was Miowski getting 1.
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I don't think he was quite himself until Raskin appeared.
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Obviously he went over to Spain, doesn't really quite work out.
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There's no come back where he was scoring goals regularly in
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the in the Scottish Prem. I think again, that sort of
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domestic and European form, you know, it's not this, it's a
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contrast in terms of how Rangers have been recently.
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But they'll be hoping someone like him can bridge that gap
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domestically and get them the goals that they need as the
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season goes on. But yeah, Rask, Raskin was a
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clear difference and and the game and yeah, just just again,
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just Hibs not really at it though.
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Like I came to, I came to envisage the game go really
20:01
definitely just seeing Hibs play a number of times so far with
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Europe and all that kind of stuff.
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And I just I thought they would put them under a lot of
20:08
pressure. But it might have just been that
20:11
Raskin factor and that bit more dominance in midfield that Hibs
20:15
couldn't quite overcome. And then I think as well that
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sometimes that that sort of back fee, perhaps it doesn't always
20:21
pay off. And then when you look at the
20:24
fact that obviously it's got a lot of peace out wide Rangers as
20:27
well. So like I think there were a few
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on the pinch of that a little bit, especially as the game wore
20:32
on. So yeah, a semi final for
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Rangers against that. All drivers.
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Let's go. To Celtic then, since we've
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talked about them. Yeah.
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Convincing whenever Partick Thistle and they've got goal,
20:48
you know, they had some goal scores.
20:50
Yan, I think it was again, it was a case of like meant to be
20:53
from when he didn't go to join Birmingham City and the end of
20:56
the transfer window. You know, I think there was a
20:58
case of Willy Won't and then they I think they pulled the
21:00
plug on it in the last minute. I think it was Celtic themselves
21:03
rather than the player himself. So, you know, Yanstein gets in
21:07
the score sheet. Good to see Luke Mccowan getting
21:09
the on the goals. You know, you always want to try
21:11
and get the Scottish guys to get on the score sheet in games
21:14
where you know they get a chance to make a contribution,
21:17
especially for Celtic arrangers. What do you think part of
21:21
Thistle can take from the game on Sunday?
21:24
Do you think they can take maybe a sense of do you want to play
21:28
these game? I mean, I know what we've been
21:30
like at Reith Rovers when we've played Lights of Celtic and in
21:34
the Scottish Cup earlier in this last season in February, March
21:39
time. You know, there's a case that
21:41
you want to play in these games that's taken into the league
21:43
form that say that we can belong there.
21:45
Do you think that's something that they'll take into the
21:47
Championship for the rest of the season going forward?
21:50
That they want to play the likes of Celtic and go to, you know,
21:53
Tynecastle, Ibrox all over again.
21:57
Yeah, I think don't obviously score line Hearts say like
22:00
regardless say what level you're playing like losing 4 nil that
22:03
is as painful. But you know when you take in
22:06
all things considered like before Partick actually faced
22:10
Celtic, they won the last four obviously good one against there
22:14
in the last round. They went on to beat Ross County
22:17
away, Rafe at home, Airdrie at home before that Drew Morton at
22:22
home. So again that that's what yeah,
22:24
again, that home fortress, that Partick like to like to build up
22:28
our own results that that does pay dividends for them and
22:30
that's what puts them up there every year in the championship.
22:33
Just finding that we bit extra again and it seems to get harder
22:37
and harder and as to find that we bit extra just either win the
22:40
league, which will be a big challenge this season,
22:42
obviously. But equally getting through
22:44
those playoffs like it's it's the way it's laid out is not
22:48
favourable to championship. And I I personally am not a a
22:52
fan of it. But yeah, I think like that for
22:55
no defeat, like it'll hurt. But at the same time, I don't
23:00
think they don't sell any any disservice.
23:02
I mean, when you look at the team they were up against
23:06
Celtic, you know, went quite strong near enough that their
23:09
favoured back four, obviously Johnson's injured, but you know,
23:13
you've got Donovan, Carter, Viker, Scales and Tierney
23:16
midfield, the Nygren, Hatati and McGregor.
23:18
And then it had natural upfront with toneking Yang.
23:20
So like, they would play lion's share of teams in the
23:24
Premiership as a starting 11 bar maybe one or two, and then
23:28
obviously the key part as well. But yeah, I don't think it can
23:33
take a bit hard for that, to be honest.
23:34
I mean, the score line is a score line, but it's, you know,
23:38
they still dug deep. They still tried to work hard.
23:40
Then a lot of good work off the ball, just tried to stay
23:43
organized, tried to do things when they had the ball again.
23:46
They don't look fazed by it. They tried to use that sort of,
23:51
you know, more physical way of doing things because that's what
23:53
you something adult when you've not at that level won't have
23:57
done them any harm in the long run, I don't think.
24:00
And they have Got Talent in this team.
24:02
They have got players. They've got a bit of experience
24:04
through the team as well that can help them.
24:07
But Robbie Crawford, they got Tony what upfront, you know,
24:10
they've got, they've got decent players there.
24:14
Lee Astroff as well as another one to be honest, in terms of
24:17
where he's been, you know, called Kumar Dundee, et cetera,
24:20
spent a wee bit, but no, well, the old game brief but sorted a
24:25
game. But but you know, again, that
24:27
that came the like backbone on your team as the kind of thing
24:32
you need any win the championship and then you blend
24:33
out where better youth and and people that have potential and
24:36
aspirations to get to the obviously top level.
24:40
They'll they'll be all right. You know, we'll talk about
24:42
championship in a bet, but they're definitely one of the
24:44
teams that are in and around that and certainly for playoff
24:47
sports and probably nothing more based on those at the top of the
24:50
table at the moment. Yeah, yeah.
24:52
I think this will give themselves not too bad out to
24:55
count themselves then. Yeah, I think wasn't 4 nil to
24:58
Celtic, let's be honest, they can do that to any Premiership
25:01
team. Yeah, certainly not to, you
25:03
know, losing 4 nil to Celtic team that's maybe missing 7-8
25:06
players because they've rested them and they've just put in a
25:08
few, you know, younger boys and and it's the same score and then
25:11
you're feeling a bit late. Well, you know, expect a bit
25:13
more for part to get for help. But yeah, nearly nearly, you
25:17
know, it's not far off a full strength team, one or two
25:20
players missing. You could see yeah, you know,
25:24
the Tunecki guy that they've seen didn't know much about him
25:26
looking really, really good. And actually, I mean, well,
25:30
obviously he's been at a level way above, you know, certainly
25:33
we're we're part at play. And then just the experience for
25:36
that midfield, like Katie McGregor, Reagan for for Partick
25:39
players to, to to to learn for those players, you know, that
25:43
that that's what holding to that part that have gotten the flee
25:46
in front them to learn a lot for just having those flee in the
25:48
middle and seeing their movement and how they play, you know, pop
25:51
things around and like that, that kind of football and, and,
25:54
and having to play through that certainly should give them a bit
25:57
an education as well in terms of what they need to get to.
26:00
And you know, it's not it's not not going to get to that level
26:03
of Celtic, but certainly that that premiership level of a
26:07
couple of steps ahead of everyone else and just being
26:09
that bit slicker. But they'll get there, they'll
26:11
get there, They'll definitely get there.
26:12
I. Think they would be a forget
26:14
there. They're always a team that gets
26:15
in it around but. They'll be there abouts,
26:17
definitely. I mean, they've lost. 4
26:19
playoffs, you know, wouldn't have been in playoffs for Four
26:21
Seasons in a row now and they've lost.
26:23
You know, I do get your point about the playoffs isn't being
26:26
unfastable, but that's probably another subject for another.
26:29
Day later. On the season when we all start
26:32
around about how bad the playoffs are, but you know the
26:36
no as an entertainment's protected, they're brilliant,
26:38
but you know they do favour the Prem, the premiership teams.
26:42
And yeah, it's. A hard thing to do.
26:44
Let's go to Rugby Park, Kilmarnock.
26:47
Recent Mirren the only game that went to penalty.
26:49
Is this all the course of the weekend?
26:53
Saint Mirren are going to Hamden for first time since 2021, but
26:57
it's the first time with fans in the ground since they won the
27:00
League Cup in 2013. I'm sorry to tell you that,
27:03
Adam. Yeah, I'll talk about that.
27:04
We won't talk about that, but. That's but it does show you how
27:08
rare a club like St. Mirren who you know, you always
27:12
think that there are good size football club and a good size
27:15
premiership club, but they don't get to the, you know, the semi
27:17
finals and the finals that often.
27:19
So it's good to see somebody a little bit different get to a
27:22
semi final as well, especially now that their fans are going to
27:26
be there and we'll talk about the draw in a minute.
27:28
But they've gone through on penalties to great goals.
27:31
I don't know if you've seen them, Adam.
27:32
Yeah, yeah, especially. Jayden Richardson's goal I.
27:36
Think yeah, that might have been the goal of.
27:38
The of the round for me. Yeah, and I mean, Charles Cook
27:41
was up there as well. But yeah, I think Jayden maybe
27:44
just sneaks that one. You know what, I actually don't
27:47
mind that. That game on Friday night, I did
27:49
see quite a reasonable part of it.
27:53
Kilmarnock looked all right as well.
27:54
And then to give them the credit, they did peg back St.
27:57
Mirren twice and will be at the second was a penalty.
27:59
But you know, to come back twice against the Saint Mirren team
28:02
that are well drilled under Stephen Robinson again that the
28:06
the backbone of that team is as as soared as it comes outside
28:09
dual for them. And that obviously is as you
28:12
know, Stephen Robinson's. We're all well drilled on how he
28:15
is as a coach in in Scotland and how well it liked to us.
28:20
Any time a job comes up, his name always pops up regardless
28:22
of pretty much who it is, unless it's celtical Rangers.
28:26
So yeah, like I it was penalized at the end of the day and then
28:31
obviously sit man and got, you know, that that sort of luck
28:34
that you need to get over the line and then converted what
28:36
they needed to. But it was a relatively
28:39
relatively close game. I maybe would have gave it to
28:42
sit mirror and if it was to be decided in that night, but
28:45
obviously Kelly Dunwell to take it beyond that.
28:48
But yeah, I think makes tell you what it probably just sent it
28:52
quite well, but makes quite good semi finals based on the draw.
28:56
It's a very. It's a very left of semi finals
28:58
isn't? It Yeah, we'll.
28:59
Talk about the the big one, I think Celtic V Ranger, but I
29:02
want to talk about, first of all, yeah, big chance for both
29:05
teams to reach a final. We've already talked about Saint
29:07
Mirren not getting to Hamden. Yeah, Motherwell have been to
29:11
Hamden more recently, also there in the semifinals last year.
29:15
But it's a great chance for one of the two clubs.
29:18
You know, we don't who we consider them still like
29:21
relatively big clubs for the Premiership, but they don't they
29:24
don't always get to the Europe or in the on the latter stages
29:28
of the qualifying stages of Europe.
29:30
So it's good to have two good standard football clubs get to
29:35
SMA final play each other. Is it a 5050 game or do you
29:38
think there's a favorite for that game?
29:40
I know we've got about a month to go and anything can happen,
29:42
you know, injury, suspensions, you know, lots of form.
29:45
But do you think there's right now there's a favorite for that
29:47
game? But you know what, right as as I
29:52
am actually looking forward to that game more than the forum
29:54
game because as well because it's a little.
29:56
Bit different as well, isn't? It yeah, it's a little bit
29:59
different. They met early in the season.
30:02
It was no, no. And that doesn't bode well for
30:05
anybody when they when you think about like that and pure score
30:08
line terms. But what what I won't say is
30:12
what I will say is it's to construct contrasting stairs of
30:15
football that they played. Like, I mean, I would say some
30:20
Madden teams are always pretty industrious, always physical,
30:23
well organized, you know what you're getting with them.
30:27
Motherwell was still kind of learning a bit about them.
30:30
So that is that that sort of unpredictability, shall we say,
30:35
about them still. We know kind of what they're
30:37
trying to do, but everybody doesn't really quite know their
30:40
players yet. So some have still got that to
30:41
kind of contend with, but I'm proud.
30:44
I'm really like, I'm toil and to think it where my head's kind of
30:50
taken me to Saint Mirren just because of that players with
30:54
Premiership experience, you know, like they got back as
30:57
part, they've got gorgeous, you know, the boys up front.
31:00
There's a lot of experience in that St.
31:02
Maryland team. And likewise Robinson is up as a
31:04
coach, is well more experienced in terms of Scottish football.
31:09
So, and obviously I've learnt for the Motherwell game where
31:13
they were, to be honest, in terms of possession, I remember
31:16
looking at a little on the bar should that, no, no game, it was
31:19
67% possession for Motherville. So and I and I can see it
31:23
especially on that Hamden patch, I can see it being like that
31:26
again. But I don't think Stephen
31:28
Robertson minds that. I think he's happy to soak up
31:30
and let them play. And then they'll they'll you
31:33
know, they'll press them, they'll harass them, they'll get
31:35
in their face and then they'll be hoping to take chances if and
31:38
when they come. So my head is leaning me
31:40
slightly to Saint Mirren but my heart for Staley football would
31:44
want it to be Motherwell currently based on how they play
31:47
based. On how I think everybody's got,
31:48
I think it's a different answer because you've got like a heart
31:52
and you've got like a brain answer.
31:54
Yeah, who this could be? And I do think it's AI like it
31:57
when it's the 5050 games because I think it is a little bit
31:59
unpredictable. But the contrast and stills of
32:01
football should, should, should help it be a good game of
32:04
football. So I'm kind of looking forward
32:08
to and it's probably the one of the two that came to him.
32:12
I'm more looking forward to. I think what helps that as well
32:14
was when I watched the last off from game, it was not a good
32:17
watch. Yeah, so there was that as well.
32:20
Yeah, I was going to. Mention that because obviously
32:23
it's no, it was no, no and the last time that they made in the
32:25
League Cup it was it was a semi final, it was a final and it was
32:29
probably one of the best finals you could have watched.
32:31
Yeah, it. Was six goals, you know, three
32:33
of these penalty kicks. Drama.
32:35
Obviously there was some controversy as well.
32:36
We're not going to bring up any controversial.
32:39
Yeah. But you know, that side of
32:41
things are neutral ground, 5050 split, good game, good match.
32:47
Do you think either team Celtic or Rangers would have wanted
32:50
that draw or do you think that's plate, the one draw they didn't
32:53
want to happen? Because this kind of like an
32:55
aspect where you want your biggest rivals in a neutral
32:58
venue in a big game, but at the same time, the pressure if you
33:01
lose that, especially we've spoken about Russell Martin, if
33:04
he's still in that job. And if he's still in that job
33:07
and he loses, God knows what the atmosphere might be like if he
33:10
loses that semifinal. Yeah.
33:12
And I mean, Kate Rogers is in assemble.
33:15
It's not the same scenario, but like obviously Rogers contract
33:18
running down, there's obviously the the the sort of murmurs
33:23
about how, you know, didn't get the money to spend and and then
33:26
replace people and, and things like that.
33:28
So there is stuff going on at Celtic as well.
33:31
And then obviously fans on the hat with the board.
33:33
There's an awful lot going on off the patch at both clubs.
33:37
So it's still an unwanted distraction for like, you know,
33:42
I'm neutral as well in terms of that you when you come into that
33:44
game, you think Celtic, Rangers, you know what you're getting.
33:47
But it's the first time in years when I'm thinking myself, I
33:49
don't know what I'm getting to be honest.
33:51
And I if I base it purely and solely off the last all from
33:55
game, Rangers were the better team.
33:59
And again, with that asking thing resolved, you know, I like
34:02
to say they're a little bit miofsky better and etcetera.
34:05
They do have good players in their team if that all jails
34:09
alongside how they done in the Arsenal from game.
34:11
You'd have to put yourself more than a Rangers count for them
34:14
getting through. But it could just be a
34:16
completely different Celtic as well.
34:18
I don't. I can't envisage Brendan Rodgers
34:21
accepting the same kind of performance that they put in in
34:24
the Derby in the league game sort of.
34:27
So I would be hopeful of a better game still still feel
34:35
like Celtic have got a bit more quality.
34:39
If an actual hits the ground running, I would definitely be
34:41
in the Celtic camp. Just not sure if he will or not.
34:46
But yeah, I would say that might feel free.
34:48
The Celtics score and then the backliner are usually
34:52
predictably solid Smake on the goals.
34:56
Maida Yang an actual Yeah, I'd be if Celtic can put in the
35:02
performance they normally put in, I would imagine I'd be in
35:06
their corner for that one. But it could be anything like
35:09
based on it's just this off the field stuff that and that's why
35:13
I'm more that's why I'm more looking forward to that set by
35:17
the Motherwell game. OK, let's go into the
35:20
championship now. We've covered the League Cup,
35:22
just let's go into the championship and I want to start
35:25
off in Dunwall if that's OK when you add them.
35:28
Ross County won Queens Park to Josh Fowler, two goals scored
35:33
for Queen's Park. Ross County on a very bad
35:36
weather for I don't know if you know this, Adam, but here's a
35:38
great timeline, a great career timeline of Josh Fowler's moves
35:44
from where he was to to Queen's Park.
35:47
So he was at Beef Juniors and then Beef Juniors went to Gulf
35:51
United in the Middle East. He then went to Saint Albans in
35:55
Australia. Then after that he went to Dubai
35:58
City and now he's up at Queens Park.
36:01
He's signed through from Dubai City in the summer, so that's.
36:06
Quite a that is a timeline, isn't it?
36:08
Yeah, that you must have some collection stamps in his
36:10
passport. Exactly.
36:12
He's got nine goals in 10 games in all competitions for Queens
36:15
Park, so he's clearly one of the formative players in the league
36:19
and Queen's Park first win since the 1st of March and
36:23
unfortunately that was against 3 throwers and it was really bad
36:25
scrolling for our sake. But they were dominant that day.
36:28
There were they've got 3 points and got their first three points
36:31
of the season in Dunwell against Ross County.
36:34
We had Ramsey on our show a couple of weeks ago talking
36:37
about all things Don Cowie and all things Ross County.
36:41
We thought that maybe Tony Dockerty, we he was his
36:44
preferred choice at the time coming in and set and we were
36:48
talking about him being the preferred choice and how he
36:50
thinks that the his style play might suit the Ross County
36:53
players. So far it's not working so far,
36:56
you know, then Daggy's, you know, bottom their win lists in
36:59
the championship. Is this gone beyond the point of
37:03
relegation, Hanover or do you think there's more to it than
37:05
that? I mean, they've signed God knows
37:07
how many players, you know, Ditton, Gallagher, Nikki Clark,
37:10
Guy McKay, Steven, you know, there's lots of players at Ross
37:14
County nowadays. Do you think they've just seen
37:16
too many players in one goal or do you think there might be
37:18
more? Technical, yeah, I think there's
37:22
a lot going on there. I think that's I think they've
37:25
there is a better hangover still potentially.
37:30
There's a long way to go, I would say.
37:32
And I think quite from from looking at it, if they can hold
37:36
on the players that they got in terms of like you've just
37:39
mentioned Gary McKay, Steven Gallagher, etcetera.
37:42
You know the Nikki Clark people, people that have been around the
37:45
block, yeah. And are, you know, at the other
37:48
end of their careers now. I think the hope as well as it's
37:52
not beyond the point of no return in terms of like their
37:55
careers. Do you know what I mean?
37:56
But that sounds like of the are they still playing at a level of
38:00
a club that wants to be up at the top end of the Championship
38:02
when realistically they can't do it for them?
38:06
I'm not convinced of that, though.
38:08
I do think they'll come out of this rock.
38:11
Where they'll end up in the league, I'm not sure.
38:15
But I think what I would say is their problem is clearly at the
38:19
back. The problem is defensively
38:21
they're just, and I always say I recognize Gallagher's in that
38:25
badly. But you know, overall, I mean,
38:28
in like in terms of getting to grips with what the what the
38:31
manager wants, I think it will click eventually.
38:34
And I think at the moment they're just leaking too much at
38:36
the back. I think they may be
38:38
underestimated some of the opponents they've played against
38:41
and taking things for granted. But you know, if you look at
38:44
that, if you look at the last, what is that?
38:49
They will, it's nearly older games.
38:50
They've scored the goal. It's it's been like both teams
38:53
have scored in both games. I think that the glaringly
38:56
obvious one was 4 out of the five games have conceived at
38:59
least two goals and three of those four were and then will.
39:03
So and the Premiership, that was nearly unheard of.
39:07
So to be in that position in the Championship, I just don't see
39:12
it sustained in that level of that.
39:14
I feel like he will be the person to get them out of that
39:17
problem. I just don't know if you'll get
39:19
them to where they want to be. Do you know what I mean?
39:21
So what, what, what the aspiration for them?
39:25
I would like to thank Basin, the abundancy players, the same base
39:28
to the manager they got was the same aspiration as St.
39:30
Johnstone. So I'll tell you what, it'll be
39:34
some turn around if they make up a 16 point gap on a flawless St.
39:40
Johnstone side at the moment under Simon Valicari.
39:44
But yeah, playoffs would be the ambition getting out of this
39:49
hairless run a form for them that's a must.
39:52
But I am if someone was to ask me to find they'll get out of
39:56
it, I definitely do. They have the too much
39:58
experience and quality enough team not to get out of
40:02
relegation sports. It's just I don't know if they
40:05
can get to the ambitions that they want, which is getting back
40:07
to the premiership, if maybe maybe lost too much them too
40:13
quickly, but you know, in terms of playoffs.
40:16
We keep having back on a bit. We'll no go on that again, but
40:18
if they can get to the playoffs, you never know, right?
40:19
You get to playoffs, they gave out a time, they've been there,
40:22
they've won playoffs before, so you know they've been there.
40:27
They know what to do. We'll see how they go.
40:29
They've probably got the. Right person in charge or just
40:32
to get him enough time to get, you know, the ball on the deck,
40:35
you know, playing his style of football.
40:37
And it's hard to do that in the Championship as well because I
40:40
think, you know, Ross County and St.
40:42
Johnstone as well-being Premiership teams, you know,
40:45
they're still for me, Premiership quality teams, you
40:47
know and. Yeah.
40:48
And I think as well, both teams. As well.
40:53
I said on an earlier podcast as well that I actually thought
40:56
that Tony Docket was hard done by Dundee.
40:59
I don't actually think people are thinking that they couldn't
41:02
take they couldn't take them any further.
41:04
Not overly convinced by that wasn't the best like recruitment
41:08
set up. They've got a really left field
41:11
sort of partnership where Mexican team as a young, I don't
41:15
think it's like a straightforward recruitment
41:18
process or the budget isn't quite there either.
41:21
So I thought it was actually doing relatively well.
41:24
I just feel like we've done defending.
41:26
It was more Dundee wanted to go a different direction.
41:28
So it wasn't until his fault an agreement with you.
41:33
I do feel like he's got the expertise to get them out of
41:35
there and then the aim, he'll have that aim in his head still
41:38
clearly. We'll see, you know, but only
41:40
like half a dozen games and fairly all games left to go.
41:43
We'll get up to the as a minimum, we'll get up to those
41:46
top four spots and we'll be in the playoffs like that.
41:48
That will be the incentive. And they'll have the experienced
41:50
guys and the leaders there in the dressing room to to have
41:53
that same sort of vibe, you know, that same.
41:55
So it's you're going to say, yeah, we're going to get
41:56
ourselves out of this. So yeah, I'll be confident for
42:00
Oscar and it's just a blip and they will get back up that
42:02
table. I.
42:04
Think I think the same. We've not played Ross Kennedy
42:06
yet, so I don't really want to go too much detail.
42:09
Yeah, seeing them in person, obviously there's so much you
42:11
can see in highlights and stuff, so, but you know, obviously what
42:15
we've heard from Ramsey and the Ross County supporters as well.
42:17
So we've just got to go with what they've done.
42:19
But I do think that they've got a good squad.
42:22
They just need to figure out how you actually get the best out of
42:25
them all. And it is a hard league as well.
42:27
People do think that coming down from the championship, I think
42:30
it's been quite consistent that teams have come down.
42:32
I think it's going to be a stool and they start off pretty bad
42:35
and then they get in a run around about Christmas time and
42:37
then they go unbeaten and then they either win the league, get
42:40
into the playoffs, whatever. So it doesn't, it's like, it
42:44
kind of surprised me but it kind of doesn't because sometimes
42:46
that does happen. But it's to the extent of where
42:48
they are and where they are right now that that's the thing
42:52
that does surprise me more than anything.
42:54
Especially with them. You know, I always consider Ross
42:57
County actually have not having a bad defence, just they've
43:01
always probably conceded one goal more than the opposition.
43:05
Yeah, and that's still the case. And there's conceding late goals
43:07
as well. I mean, they conceded late goals
43:08
against our both. They conceded a couple of league
43:10
goals against Queens Park, you know, and they'll say
43:13
discipline. It's become a little bit of an
43:14
issue as well because Declan Gallagher got sent.
43:16
Off Yeah, I think, I think to be honest, it's it's maybe just
43:20
have the currently probably victims of the expectation and
43:24
'cause they've had a couple of those results and then it's it
43:27
becomes like week after week, you know, it's just it's not
43:30
happening. It's not happening.
43:31
And then mentally it becomes quite challenging for the
43:34
players. But yeah, again, I think Tony
43:38
will get sort of the arm and the shoulder or have the stem words
43:42
with the players that he needs to think, to be honest, like the
43:44
championship for, you know, like for me, the standard in the
43:49
championship, there's a lot of teams there that are there is
43:53
not much between them at all. And I think that unfortunately
43:58
for Ross County, they're probably falling at the bracket
44:00
being one of those teams. It's probably before the season
44:04
started, I think people were maybe thinking Austin, Josh
44:08
Roscat, you know, they may they'll be up there and that
44:10
will be there too, mainly, especially when senior Ross Kate
44:13
will get it. And then obviously Ronan Hill
44:15
stayed and stuff like that. But very quickly they're looking
44:18
just like one of, you know, a good 5-6 teams that also will be
44:23
in my chances of playoffs. And that is not where they want
44:26
to be. But equally, you know, yeah, if
44:29
they can just get over just mainly that mental side and just
44:32
get that the organization at the back, I don't think they have
44:36
any problems going forward overly.
44:37
It's like seeing games out, like they see games out be a bit more
44:41
clinical, be more organised at the back.
44:44
And I think based on budgets and resources toy doctors have in
44:47
the past, I think he will get that tundra in for them.
44:50
Yeah. And.
44:50
You know exactly what's going to happen with January coming up as
44:53
well, that budget as well to help get some players in that
44:58
could. Help.
44:58
Yeah. And sometimes that's the
45:00
difference between a team. Obviously we're thinking about
45:03
teams winning the leagues as well.
45:05
Normally the teams at the top of the Championship like the bigger
45:08
clubs. Well, so the Dundee United's of
45:10
this world have been down, Hearts of this world been down a
45:13
couple of years or so. They get a good budget in
45:16
January and that's the thing that gets them over the line
45:18
that when you think maybe there is a lot of doubt in their heads
45:21
so. Maybe in?
45:22
January that might come across no issues for Saint Johnstone
45:26
after relegation. No, they're flying high at the
45:28
top of the table and came from behind against Dunfermline on
45:31
Friday night. Kai Fotheringham scoring his
45:34
first goal for the club. Josh Mcpeake scoring in the
45:37
last. I think it was the last five
45:38
minutes or so that he scored again for Saint Johnstone.
45:42
He's now scored seven goals and 11 games for Saint Johnstone
45:46
this season. That's already his highest toll
45:48
in his club career. OK, let's move on from the
45:52
Championship and we'll move on to some Scotland news.
45:56
So we've got a lot of Scotland news here, but we're going to
45:58
try and keep it as brief as possible.
46:00
So first of all, we've got Billy Gilmore scoring his first senior
46:04
club goal. He scored two goals before for
46:06
All for Scotland, for France, against France and Poland.
46:09
He's now scored his first club goal.
46:11
I believe it's 145 matches that he's played in club football.
46:15
This clean your club football without scoring a goal and he
46:18
finally got one for Napoli VPS. Just a quick word on Billy
46:22
Gilmore. Adam.
46:23
What do you make of him? You know, I've, I've always
46:25
really liked him. I absolutely love him, love him.
46:29
I literally fed him as a Scottish Chavi.
46:31
So I think I think it was James in the last podcast for I was
46:35
calling him a chav, but I wasn't.
46:37
I was definitely calling the Scottish Chavi as in Barcelona's
46:40
Chavi. I just think like he's the first
46:44
flight player I've seen our generation, but I just feel like
46:47
he if he was in like a pep guard, they were team Barcelona
46:50
team and he took him to like Javier and Esto and put Billy
46:53
Gilmore in like there wouldn't be too much difference.
46:55
That's how much if I rate them, like I use quality.
46:58
So I don't like the goal thing. That's not his thing.
47:03
I'm just chucked for him like in the in the sense that like he's
47:07
got a he's guys. What Kyle are we?
47:09
But I think this season, because obviously they've they've
47:11
brought the brain and they've moved Mctominate a bit wider.
47:15
Libotka sort of took that hold. The midfield draw and anguish
47:19
has moved up a little bit. So like there's not a lot of
47:23
room there for Billy. But I don't think that's like a
47:26
case that Conte doesn't trust them or believe in him.
47:29
I think it's just the level of quality that's in the side and I
47:34
think it's as a real good thing for Scottish in the farm from an
47:38
national perspective that obviously like Thomas store
47:41
store and that team and then Billy's pretty much from the
47:43
brink and nearly playing like most games.
47:45
So I think quality definitely trusts them.
47:47
It's just that it's hard to get game time.
47:50
So yet over the moon from they got that goal and yeah, every
47:53
time I seen a play, everything I said, well, but it's Napoli or
47:57
even before you know what Chelsea bright and everybody's
48:00
played like nobody, no coach or anyone seems to have a bad word
48:04
about them. Everyone seems to rate them
48:05
highly and it's just you know what as well as well, it's quite
48:08
circumstantial. Chelsea thing was circumstance,
48:12
just that abundance of players that they had at the time, like
48:15
it would nearly impossible for them again the team, but Chelsea
48:18
fans rated them bright and rated them obviously.
48:22
Is that Napoli now? And then every time he's played
48:24
for Scotland, like for me, you should you should be starting
48:26
for Scotland. I know we've got a lot of good
48:28
midfielders, but I just think what he brings in terms of
48:31
reliability in terms of that just calmness and composure on
48:35
the ball, regardless of who is we're playing.
48:37
I mean, the time that he played England, like he was quality.
48:40
So like, yeah, I can't see enough good things about Billy.
48:45
I want to be honest. Yeah.
48:47
Probably. I really do like him.
48:48
I really do like him. Let's talk about two players who
48:51
are not in the squad, not even been in the squad for a long
48:55
time. But who knows, maybe if they
48:57
keep up their form, they might be in contention with a shot.
49:01
Two players, both with the first name, the same first name,
49:05
Ollie. So we've got Ollie Bark and
49:07
Ollie Mcburney. Ollie Bark.
49:08
First Scotsman to score a hat trick in the Bundesliga.
49:11
He's also now the top scoring Scotsman ever to play in the top
49:15
flight of German football. And we've also got Olly Mcburney
49:19
goal assists for Hull on Saturday.
49:22
He's got six goal involvements, so three goals and three assists
49:25
in six league games for Hull City.
49:29
Could you see either of those two ever getting a call up?
49:32
Maybe if it's not the next squad in October or the next November,
49:35
But do you think the would be ever in contention or do you
49:38
think there's a point where like we've just drawn a line over him
49:41
them and we've moved on because they've not had a call up for a
49:45
long time now? Two very different
49:51
circumstances, I think as well. I think Mcburney's obviously got
49:54
that. Was there not like a thing about
49:57
Mick Burney that he said or done something that was upon and then
50:00
and then it kind of blew up because it was someone caught it
50:03
and yeah, it kind of went sour. So I don't know about him
50:08
getting back and not too sure if that and not too sure he wants
50:12
back in or you know, I'm not what?
50:14
Can't see that one Oliver bought bark again another player like
50:22
kind of flat to deceive like think if if he's done what he's
50:27
doing right now for like a Celtic or someday like it may
50:29
elevated them. And then obviously definitely
50:31
been in the Scotland squad. Then came the world was his
50:34
oyster at one point, but Deborah seemed to materialize.
50:38
But I do always think he's had something there potential wise
50:42
and he does offer something slightly different to what we've
50:46
already got like Mcburney does. But like I said, there's other
50:50
issues with Bernie which way I think there's a line through
50:51
him. In my opinion, Burke might have
50:55
a well if he keeps up the form is doing in that league.
50:59
I'd be shocked if he never got some kind of call up at some
51:01
point because it is a position where we are not favourable.
51:08
Why we do not have that quote that certainly don't have
51:11
finishers or consistent finishers.
51:13
They either do it at club level and or international level.
51:17
We've had flashes of it from Adams and Bakes.
51:21
Not really see much from horse to be honest.
51:23
But then we had Shank going, then we got Bowie.
51:28
So yeah, there's people there, but there is no one like as a
51:32
stand out that everyone can, you know, lay their hat on and go
51:35
yet. Definitely won't happen.
51:36
To be upfront. He's the guy we can rely on.
51:38
We have an abundance to strikers that we can rely on for doing a
51:41
lot of running and put in a lot of work.
51:44
You know, everything fakes is tireless in terms of his work
51:48
and what he does off the ball. You can't, cannot dispute that
51:52
in the slightest. I just feel like say that
51:55
numerous times in Scotland have like a, you know, like path
51:58
leaders for Greece, like Scotland have like path leaders.
52:01
Yeah, the Scotland team and path leaders or Scotland team and
52:04
Bale like something like that. Like it totally elevate the team
52:08
because a lot of the rest of the positions in the team, we are
52:11
actually fairly solid. Obviously we've got a really
52:14
good midfield and even defensively now like you know,
52:17
we've got hecky back, got a bunt, you know, got enough left
52:20
backs for the the whole Europe. You know, it's centre backs
52:23
you've got, you know, you've got McKenna and Hanley, OK on and
52:30
off a little bit form wise, but certainly didn't, you know, show
52:33
them selling any bad lights recently and they'll give
52:36
everything. So and there's there's plenty of
52:39
center backs out and about there that I feel like could step in
52:42
if they continue the form they're doing.
52:45
And so yeah, that striker position like could see all the
52:48
bark if he keeps doing what he's doing, getting another
52:52
opportunity. What age is he now?
52:53
Is he mid 20s I. Think he's 20 7 I think.
52:56
From memory. That's something I'll need to
52:59
check. Over so again, if he's you know,
53:01
if there's unfortunately 262627 again, argument could be made
53:05
that he's just about to reach the peak and if you have to keep
53:08
driving the balls there you go. So you know like I say, if he
53:12
keeps that form up in a league like that, it'd be hard to
53:15
dismiss him. So I would like to think if he
53:19
kept up that Clark would definitely consider him for for
53:22
qualifiers and we'll just need to wait and see on that one, I
53:26
guess. But I mean, the fact that he's
53:28
had a heart trick in the Bendis Lee gun, the stats you were
53:31
saying earlier on like that, don't think I'd ever hear anyone
53:34
say that kind of sentence about all the buck, but I know.
53:36
Yeah, here we are. He.
53:37
Always had a feeling that I always had a feeling he might
53:39
make it but. Yeah, always.
53:41
Got to the point where, you know, he, I think he's just
53:44
moved too, too many times. I think that's what's happened.
53:48
Could be, yeah, because. He moved, remember, he moved to
53:51
lights like a very young age as well.
53:53
And you know, and then not after that, he moved to West Brom and
53:56
then it's just been all over the place really.
53:58
So I think he just needs a home and a back of consistency.
54:00
He got that where the Bremen last year a little bit.
54:02
Yeah. Obviously I think he's decided,
54:04
he decided to go to union because there's a lot of
54:07
potential at that club and I think there's a lot of, I think
54:11
they were the first club to actually offer him a contract as
54:13
well. And I think people were saying
54:15
why is he not staying at where the Bremen main reason was.
54:17
I think soon as you got a contract on the table, you know,
54:20
and you, you want to stay in the country, you want to provide for
54:23
your family, you know, your kids as well.
54:26
I think you would, you know, you're still in the the Wonders
54:29
League. I think you're, you're fooled
54:31
not to take that contract. So he's done the right thing.
54:34
I think going from weather Birmingham to Union Berlin,
54:38
couple of things just to finish off more than anything we've
54:41
got. Lennon.
54:42
Miller scored his first goal for Eudanese on Tuesday night, he
54:47
scored any 21 win over Playmold. So he's hit the ground running
54:51
which is brilliant to see and talking to players who've hit
54:54
the home ground running abroad as well.
54:56
Caroline Weir finished 30th in the Malindor in the women's
55:01
section and for the men's section, Scott Mctominay 18th in
55:05
the world. So we can, we can definitely see
55:07
that we've got Scotland internationals in the top 30 and
55:10
the top 20 in the world. So that's a brilliant phrase to,
55:14
to, to have. I think it's.
55:16
Yeah, I think. Wait for years and years and
55:19
years for, you know, I think players to get recognition or we
55:23
know we thought we were closer a couple of times but we've got 2
55:26
consistent players. Caroline Weir scored back to
55:28
that games for Real Madrid and Spain and we know all the
55:31
quality of that. Scott Mctomy, you've got as
55:33
well. I'm surprised, yeah, I'm
55:34
surprised. Caroline Weir was.
55:35
It was the first female Scottish player in there.
55:39
The balloon nominees like to be honest, there's been a lot of
55:42
talent for Scottish women's side over the years.
55:45
So I'm surprised at that. But she definitely, she
55:47
definitely deserves to be there herself, no doubt.
55:50
And then we've met Tommeny. Yeah.
55:53
I mean, what a season last season.
55:54
I mean, we obviously Scotland, Scotland fans, we all know what
55:58
met Tommeny brings. I stole a loss as to how man
56:04
even consider getting ready. I'm, I don't think he ever
56:07
wanted to leave. I think he could quite easily
56:10
have done what he'd done for an athlete.
56:11
Man United, no problem. Yeah, but like Scotland, like he
56:17
could do a job for your front as well.
56:18
Like I'm not actually opposed to if things were that bad like
56:23
Scotland. And same when he was at Man
56:25
United, I thought, why is he not just putting up front?
56:27
Because he can offer you nearly everything a striker offers.
56:30
And he actually a fun fact as well as when he first joined Man
56:35
United's Academy, he was actually signed a striker
56:37
anyway. So, you know, he's got in the
56:40
locker is clear to see and he got himself in a bound or
56:43
nomination from that attack and playing from that attacking
56:46
position. So yeah, well done him like 18
56:50
better than Jude Bellingham who's 24 to point that out
56:52
online the Today. So I mean, that's facts now.
56:56
There's nothing you can't get away from that.
56:58
Can you hear that here first? And online as well.
57:01
A. Very.
57:02
Good source as well so. That's exactly so.
57:04
That's great, isn't? It it's good to see.
57:08
Scottish football and yeah, I saw down as well Lennon Muller
57:12
that you pointed out. Really glad that he went to
57:17
euthanasia and took himself to that challenge.
57:20
And though it's maybe a wee bit easier now in the sense because
57:23
you've seen other people make the jump.
57:25
But culturally and and you know, moving a different place in the
57:29
world that has still come with challenges is still young, but
57:33
he looks really level headed. It looks like again Italian
57:37
football. So I'm really well is pretty
57:40
much a joy to watch every time you see him and I can't actually
57:44
not see him thriving like every Phillies going to fright that
57:47
you'd an easy. It could even be like, you know,
57:50
safe that like happened to be like Aaron hockey whereby it has
57:54
a really good season at euthanasia.
57:55
And then he may be it's quite common as well in Italy where
57:57
they progress up Italian teams. So maybe move up to a better
58:00
Italian team. So, you know, list Ferguson be
58:02
linked to like Juventus and stuff.
58:03
So like that could happen or he could do like what heck he did
58:06
what you end up at like Brentford or something like
58:08
that. Yeah, I think like, again, he
58:13
can go wherever he wants if he keeps making the rise that he's
58:15
making. And yet it's a bit like Gilmore,
58:19
to be honest with me is it's like you can wax like a club,
58:22
like it's such a good player. Not something we're used to
58:27
seeing, but hopefully, but hopefully we'll see more of
58:32
because you know, future wise, obviously I've got my own kids
58:37
that, you know, at football academies and stuff like that.
58:39
And it the abundance of kids there with talent and then hard
58:42
work and everything like that. If they can get given the right
58:44
guidance and get the opportunities, you know,
58:47
slightly and Morris and Gilmore's that you see like the
58:48
more than they come up, the better.
58:50
Just they take nothing for granted.
58:57
That's that's the key. So good.
58:59
You know the good quote from Lennon Miller's manager?
59:02
You're the easiest saying that reason that he's not played many
59:05
games so far was simply because it's about an in process.
59:08
He joined them very late in the transfer window.
59:11
Yeah. Up and running and so that makes
59:14
very much a lot of sense. And you know, you got a little
59:16
bit of time on Saturday against the UC Milan, not a lot of time,
59:20
but you know, it's still better than no time at all.
59:22
And obviously he scored on Tuesday.
59:25
First start, first goal and who knows where this could take him.
59:29
Hopefully more starts to come for Euden Easy and for Scotland
59:32
as well because I. Think it's not a very good
59:34
player? Very good player.
59:36
I think we'll wrap it up there and unless you want to bring
59:38
anything up that we've not covered.
59:41
Nothing. We've called quite a lot.
59:42
They're on. I think we've had a good
59:43
session, yeah. That's great.
59:46
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