Latest / Chief in Tech Deep Dive Shortcast / Chief in Tech S1E15 - Kate Prouty : How to Be an Organizational Change Maker
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- 0:00Welcome to The Deep Dive, where we unpack huge
- 0:02amounts of research and distill it all down to
- 0:04the essentials you need to know. And today, we
- 0:06are really digging into a big one. We are. We're
- 0:09tracing the 25 -year evolution of a major tech
- 0:12company, Akamai Technologies. It's really a story
- 0:15about change, about how leadership has to mature.
- 0:19And, you know, how a startup culture survives
- 0:21that transition to becoming a, what, nearly $4
- 0:24billion? global leader. So our guide on this
- 0:28journey is Kate Prouty. She's the current CIO
- 0:30of Akamai. Right, and she's the perfect person
- 0:32to track this because she joined the company
- 0:34way back in 1999, right at the beginning. She's
- 0:37been in leadership there for over two decades.
- 0:39And we need to set the scale here. Akamai is,
- 0:41for many, basically the backbone of the internet.
- 0:44They're handling content, security, cloud computing.
- 0:47billions of times a day. So this isn't just about,
- 0:50you know, changing the snacks in the break room.
- 0:52No. This is a fundamental shift in the company's
- 0:55DNA, all while managing this insane technical
- 0:59complexity. So our mission for this deep dive
- 1:01is to unpack the sources from Prouty's experience.
- 1:05How did they actually drive that change from
- 1:08the top down? And I think more importantly, what
- 1:11parts of that that sort of wild 1999 culture,
- 1:15did they have to leave behind to survive? Because
- 1:17the big takeaway here is that change, well, it's
- 1:20not really optional. OK, so let's jump in that
- 1:22time capsule. Let's go back to 1999. What was
- 1:25that startup environment really like? The sources,
- 1:28they paint a very specific picture. It's that
- 1:30high octane, late dot com era. Right. It's exhilarating.
- 1:35You know, frenetic energy, food deliveries, and
- 1:36my favorite detail. people literally on rollerblades
- 1:41in the office. Rollerblades? I mean, that detail
- 1:43says so much, but that pace, it wasn't just for
- 1:46show, was it? There was a real technical need
- 1:48for that speed. Oh, absolutely. They were building
- 1:50a global content delivery network from scratch.
- 1:52They had to be faster and louder than everyone.
- 1:55And that desperation, it translated directly
- 1:57into their culture. So how did they define that?
- 1:59Their motto, and this was literally printed on
- 2:01their walls, was the word obstreperous. Obstreperous.
- 2:05I love that word. It's so... Noisy, defiant.
- 2:09That was the whole point. It meant you were a
- 2:11disrupter. You were making noise, demanding change.
- 2:14The lines between jobs were, you know, intentionally
- 2:17blurry. If you saw a problem, you just jumped
- 2:19in. But this idea of healthy debate, it sounds
- 2:23like it often tipped over into something, well,
- 2:26less healthy. It did. The sources are pretty
- 2:28clear that this culture was full of young, very
- 2:31academic people. And it created this environment
- 2:34of constant, intense confrontation. So the goal
- 2:38wasn't collaboration? Not really. The goal was
- 2:41often to be the smartest person in the room.
- 2:44To actively search for the mistakes in your colleague's
- 2:46work. Wow, that sounds incredibly stressful.
- 2:48A real pressure cooker. It was. And they had
- 2:50a mantra for it, you were behind. Jeez. Yeah.
- 2:53And the way they recognized success just solidified
- 2:56this whole individualistic, heroic thing. They
- 2:59had something called the Titans Award. OK, the
- 3:01Titans Award. Let me guess. It wasn't for the
- 3:03best team player? Not at all. It was explicitly
- 3:07for the superstar Titan individual contributor.
- 3:11The one brilliant person whose Herculean solo
- 3:15effort saved the day. So management, teamwork,
- 3:19that was all secondary to just these heroic solo
- 3:21acts. Totally. And the expectation was complete
- 3:25and utter dedication. 15 plus hours a day in
- 3:28the office was normal. It was a badge of honor
- 3:30to sacrifice your personal life. People rarely
- 3:33even talked about their lives outside of work.
- 3:35So that culture, as exciting as it sounds, it
- 3:38really had a shelf life. It was a ticking time
- 3:40bomb. It was completely unsustainable. And that
- 3:42connects to the bigger picture, right? The mandate
- 3:44to evolve wasn't just about technology. It was
- 3:46about, well... about scaling their humanity.
- 3:49Akamai and Prouty basically grew up together.
- 3:51And the sources show that the pressure for change
- 3:53often came from very personal places. Yes, exactly.
- 3:57Prouty mentions that she was one of the very
- 3:58first people at Akamai to get pregnant back in
- 4:00those early days. And if you look at how the
- 4:02company handled that then versus now, I mean,
- 4:04it just perfectly shows the massive gap they
- 4:06had to cross. The contrast is it's really dramatic.
- 4:11Back then, she was one of maybe five people in
- 4:14the mother's group. Just five. Maternity leave
- 4:16was rigid. 12 weeks just following the law and
- 4:20zero paternity leave. It was seen as a concession
- 4:24You know not a benefit and now you fast forward
- 4:26the company has over 12 ,000 employees You just
- 4:30can't ask thousands of adults with kids and mortgages
- 4:33and real lives To operate like those 22 year
- 4:36old rollerbladers the leadership finally realized
- 4:38it The old culture was actively hurting their
- 4:41ability to keep the senior people they needed
- 4:43So their most precious asset, their people, was
- 4:46being worn down. Exactly. The mindset had to
- 4:49shift from, how much time can we get out of them,
- 4:51to something more like, how do we support their
- 4:53whole lives so they do better work? It's that
- 4:55old saying, right? What got you here won't get
- 4:57you there. It's so true. The heroic, chaotic
- 5:00stuff that built the company in the first place
- 5:02was never going to get them to that next stage
- 5:04as a mature, multi -billion dollar organization.
- 5:07Yeah. OK, this is where it gets really fascinating
- 5:09to me. How does a company that literally rewarded
- 5:13people for being at their desks for 15 hours,
- 5:16how do they suddenly pivot to celebrating the
- 5:19idea that you might never need to be in the office?
- 5:21It was a massive, massive undertaking. They went
- 5:24from that culture of mandatory face time to something
- 5:27they call flex space, which lets employees choose
- 5:30where they work best. And it's not just a policy
- 5:32on paper. No, it's real. Over 80 % of their employees
- 5:36now work four or more days a week from home.
- 5:38So my question is, the one every manager listening
- 5:41is probably thinking, how do you keep collaboration,
- 5:44productivity, all of it going when 80 % of your
- 5:47team is remote, especially coming from where
- 5:49they came from? Well, it's a huge investment,
- 5:52both technical and managerial. Technically, their
- 5:54systems had to be flawless and cloud -ready.
- 5:56But the managerial shift was the big one. You
- 5:59had to stop managing by sight. Exactly. The focus
- 6:01had to move from inputs, you know, did I see
- 6:03you sitting there, to outcomes. Trust had to
- 6:06become the default. Managers are trained to assess
- 6:08results, not your proximity to the office. And
- 6:11you mentioned that Titan Awards still exists,
- 6:14but it means something different. That must have
- 6:17required a total overhaul of how they review
- 6:19performance. It did. The Titan is no longer the
- 6:22solo superstar. So what is it now? The new definition
- 6:25is all about collaborative impact, cross -functional
- 6:28success, mentorship. The performance metrics
- 6:32now explicitly reward you for sharing knowledge
- 6:35for making the whole team succeed. So being a
- 6:37brilliant jerk is no longer a viable career path
- 6:40there. Not if you want to be a titan, no. It's
- 6:43about channeling that old intellectual fire in
- 6:46a way that's... you know, sustainable and positive.
- 6:49They didn't ask people to stop being disruptive.
- 6:51They just asked them to be constructively disruptive.
- 6:54Yes. They institutionalized that obstreperous
- 6:57spirit. They realized you can't rely on chaotic
- 6:59arguments for innovation when you're a giant
- 7:02global company. So they build formal structures
- 7:04like their annual innovation challenge. Tell
- 7:06me more about that. How does a formal structure
- 7:08like that create safety? It gives a clear, safe
- 7:11path for anyone, no matter their role, to pitch
- 7:14an idea all the way up to the CEO for funding.
- 7:17It empowers people to challenge the status quo
- 7:20without the fear of, you know, personal backlash
- 7:23if the idea doesn't work out. So it's structured
- 7:26risk taking. It creates room to fail. That whole
- 7:29idea of letting people burn down the couch, not
- 7:31the house. Exactly. They made innovation a system,
- 7:36not something dependent on a random confrontation.
- 7:38The core values are still there. Disruption,
- 7:41innovation. But now they're channeled through
- 7:43a system built on trust. So let's bring this
- 7:45home for the listener. What does all this mean
- 7:47for someone who's in an organization right now
- 7:49that feels stuck in its own 1999 mindset? Okay,
- 7:54key takeaway number one. You don't have to wait
- 7:56for the CEO to have an epiphany. Proudi is really
- 7:58clear on this. You can be responsible for your
- 8:01own culture. You can be the catalyst. You can
- 8:03be the catalyst. If you see something that needs
- 8:04to evolve, speak up. Even if it's just in your
- 8:07small corner of the company. And that leads right
- 8:09into the second big idea. Control your immediate
- 8:12environment. Even if you can't change a whole
- 8:14company, you can change your team. That micro
- 8:17level change is so powerful. You can build trust,
- 8:20respect, and safety right where you are. Set
- 8:23clear expectations for teamwork. Hold your team
- 8:26accountable for eliminating those little microaggressions.
- 8:29Make your bubble a safe place for people to bring
- 8:32their whole self to work wherever they're working
- 8:35from. Right. And for anyone in a leadership role,
- 8:37this all demands a huge shift in style. It's
- 8:40about being authentic, not just copying the old
- 8:42titans. Which brings us to the third takeaway.
- 8:45This is about leading by example, but also learning
- 8:47from, well, from bad examples. Yes. Prouty talks
- 8:51about the power of the anti -mentor. The anti
- 8:53-mentor. I think that's a brilliant concept.
- 8:55What does that actually look like? It's about
- 8:57deliberate observation. You watch the leader
- 9:00who is technically great but relationally terrible,
- 9:04the one who micromanages their remote team or
- 9:07engages in that destructive personal kind of
- 9:10debate. And you just take notes on what not to
- 9:12do? You observe their actions and you consciously
- 9:14vow, that is a behavior I will never ever repeat.
- 9:18You're not copying their success, you're learning
- 9:20from their failures. It's such a powerful way
- 9:22to build your own authentic leadership style
- 9:24instead of just mimicking the people who came
- 9:26before you. Exactly. The end goal is authenticity.
- 9:31Don't pretend you're a 1999 Titan in today's
- 9:34world. It just won't work. Because the world
- 9:37is constantly changing. The moment you get comfortable
- 9:39is the moment you fall behind. And that is the
- 9:41final warning. If you like how things are now,
- 9:44great. But you have to constantly be challenging
- 9:46yourself and adapting. Because, as the old Ikemae
- 9:49saying goes, if you're standing still... You're
- 9:51gonna be behind. You're gonna be behind. What
- 9:53a journey. From a frenetic rollerblading startup
- 9:57to this flexible, team -focused global company,
- 10:01the lesson from Kate Prouty's 25 years is just
- 10:03so clear. Evolution is not optional. It is absolutely
- 10:07necessary for survival. And if you're feeling
- 10:09challenged by change right now in your own work
- 10:11or life, we should leave you with Prouty's favorite
- 10:14quote on this. It really sums it all up. What
- 10:16is it? If it doesn't challenge you, then it won't
- 10:18change you. Powerful. So don't just wait for
- 10:20change. Be the catalyst for it. Thank you for
- 10:24joining us for the deep dive. We'll see you next
- 10:26time.