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Monthly Live Broadcast (October 27th 2025) [RHR S6, EP40 feat. Patrick Walsh] · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  None. That.
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  The. The.
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  Hello everyone, and welcome to the Random Heathen Ramblings
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  podcast where we discuss all sorts of things Germanic
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  Heathenry related. My name is Jesse and I'm your
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  Visit our online store at the Olivet here.com and discover the
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  beauty of Mountain Spirit. All right, everyone, welcome to
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  this month's live broadcast of the Random Heathen Ramblings
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  podcast on Facebook and YouTube. If you're watching, drop a
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  comment down below and say hey, how are you?
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  I know it's late for most of you on a Monday night if you are an
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  old codger and have to get in bed before the sun goes down.
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  But here we are broadcasting live for probably the last time
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  for at least a very long time. More to come on that.
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  There will be kind of an announcement that I make on
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  YouTube on November 1st. So if you're watching this and
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  you catch this at some point, just stay tuned for that
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  announcement. It'll be dropping at noon
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  Central time on Saturday, November 1st.
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  But we are streaming live right now, ready to take your
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  questions, comments, thoughts, feedback on whatever.
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  And with me today is going to be my good brother and friend of a
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  very long time Now, Patrick Walsh here.
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  What's up, brother? Man, good to see you.
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  Likewise very happy to be here. Yeah, man, I'm happy to have
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  you. We have.
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  We got Christopher Miller here checking in, says I hope you're
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  doing well. I am doing well, man.
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  It's good to see you. I had a question for you, Chris.
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  Did you ever make it to Shadowmoot this year?
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  And if so, what did you think? I know you had talked about
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  making your way down from Champaign, IL to attend
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  Shadowmoot this year. And I know we you had like
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  reached out to me and hoped that I was going to be there.
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  And I had prior obligations and I couldn't attend this year, but
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  hoping that next year will be different and I'll be able to be
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  there next year. So yeah, if you got the chance
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  to go, just be curious to hear about what you thought.
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  But we are streaming live here here on Facebook and YouTube.
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  So wherever it is that you're watching from, drop a comment
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  down below and say hello. So Patrick, how you been, man?
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  What's going on with you on on your side of the river?
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  It's. A mixed bag if you will, but
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  overall pretty good. Just very happy to be here.
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  Part of this podcast, if you will, and being a true avid
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  lover of your channel, your brother and your friendship, you
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  know, I'm just very honored and privileged to be part of this
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  special occasion. And other than that, though, you
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  know, just, you know, me. I've been hiking, painting,
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  spending time with my cats at my local shelter.
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  Just yeah. How about?
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  You. Yeah, You've been hitting the
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  trails hard and heavy. Oh yeah, I'm actually 3 miles
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  away from reaching 400 miles hike this year. 400 miles from
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  like when you like. When did you start documenting
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  that? Officially, I started in
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  February of this year. Oh, wow.
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  Unofficially, I might have already reached 400 by now, but
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  I downloaded All Trails app, a very helpful app for anyone
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  interested in hiking. By the way, there's a free
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  version I use every anytime I go hiking.
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  So yeah, don't be, you know, turned away by downloading an
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  app that requires anything other than your participation.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a whole thing, man.
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  Like the you get, you get this, you get, you get the like the
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  fun advertisements about what you can do with this application
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  or this service or whatever. And then you get it.
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  And then it's like, oh, by the way, if you really want to do
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  all these things, you got to shell over that, that coin, you
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  know, you got to lay down in clams.
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  You're exactly. Right.
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  I got my clans spent already, so yeah.
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  Yeah, don't we all? But how are you, brother?
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  Man, I, I just, I just am really truthfully, how I am is I varies
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  from day-to-day, but I think overall I am good.
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  I'm in a, I'm in a good peaceful place in my life.
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  Peace doesn't always mean comfort.
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  I think that's a good way to say, you know, I'm not always,
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  I'm not always comfortable. You know what I mean?
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  Like I'm not always, if it were up to me personally as an
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  individual, I'm like my choice on like, oh, if you could have
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  your life a certain way, I'd probably make certain choices
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  out of a selection to make it a certain way.
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  But but being that I don't have that option, none of us do to to
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  to quite that extent. I am, I am at peace and I'm good
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  and I am. Yeah, that's that.
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  I think that pretty well sums it up.
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  You know what I mean? I'd like to share that Sensepen
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  as well, brother. I really do.
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  I'm at peace as well. After everything I've shared
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  personally and on a group level, you know, I'm at peace.
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  I'm very happy to be so. That's good man.
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  You're we got 00 with an X Odinson just checking in from
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  Facebook. Usually when the comments come
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  in like that was just a name. A lot of times it means like, I
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  don't know, maybe maybe you sent some stars or something 0.
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  So if you did, thank you, but thank you for watching
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  nonetheless. Appreciate the support here.
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  Chris Miller is saying didn't end up going to shadow mood.
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  I would have to miss a big event for a member of his kindred
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  decided it was you were here needed.
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  Sorry there in Illinois, and you know that's a lot of what people
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  are facing nowadays, Chris and everybody.
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  You know, we have to have to know where to balance our selves
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  at, you know what I mean? And if your obligations and your
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  with, you know, with where you are, that's where it called for
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  you to be totally understandable respect for that.
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  And so thank you for that comment.
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  And yeah, we also hello my neighbor.
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  Upper Missouri. Yeah, Chris, Chris has been on
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  the podcast before and he's got the Vegarsletta, I think is the
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  name of his kindred up there in, in in mid central, like central
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  Illinois, I think maybe South Central Illinois.
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  Don't don't, don't quote me on that as far as location goes,
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  but Champaign, IL I think is where their home base is.
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  So yeah, definitely next year, Chris, and thank you 0 for the
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  contribution, for the kindness, you know, sending a star or
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  whatever of support. That's much appreciated.
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  It's very kind of you, but just watching and being here is is
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  plenty, you know? So yeah, guys, we've got Patrick
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  Walsh here. He is in, you're in like the is
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  it Saint Louis area or you're not too?
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  Far. Yeah.
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  I'm about 30 miles from original Saint Louis.
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  Like the actual city? If you will.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the good side of Saint Louis.
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  Yes, yes, exactly right. Yeah, you can say that.
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  There you go. Yeah.
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  It's all relevant. Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
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  all it look, it's looking good from.
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  It's looking good from what's the name of your city anyway?
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  What's it called? Saint Peter's.
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  Saint Peter's, Yeah. Oh, so you got a lot of it's
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  like a Catholic state. Oh yes.
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  Raised Catholic, you know, taking some denial, if you will.
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  Yeah, yeah. I don't know much about, you
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  know, Saint Peter. He, he, he's got a big, he's got
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  a big reputation in the, in the Catholic faith.
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  But I don't know who Saint Louis is and what his what his claim
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  to fame is. I used to know it back in like
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  grade school, but it's been so long.
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  So. Yeah, yeah.
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  Couldn't tell you. Yeah.
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  They they, they did something enough to be canonized, so
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  there's that. Obviously, yeah.
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  Zero is in northeast Tennessee, so not far from my neck of the
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  woods, just a bit about probably, you know, 4 to 5, four
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  to four or so hours north and east of me.
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  And it's looking good from Saint Peter's, from you, man.
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  It's looking good for Middle Tennessee for me is what a buddy
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  of mine used to say, you know, or still says whenever things
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  are going rough for people or whenever things are happening.
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  He says he, he, he lives in Gallatin, TN.
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  And he says it's looking good from Gallatin.
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  So it's about perspective, right?
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  It's about where we are. And it's that, you know, you got
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  to find the best of situations wherever you are.
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  Yeah. There we go.
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  OK. So thank you, Chris.
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  He says, got it in one. Vulgarsletta, the rolling
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  Prairie. That's what it is.
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  Vulgarsletta is the Old Norse name for the rolling Prairie
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  kindred, and they're spread across central Illinois, based
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  in Champaign, but our central vey is in Chatham.
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  I hope I said that right. If I didn't, you can you feel
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  free to publicly bash me for that.
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  If it's Chatham, but it's Chatham.
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  I could be wrong. I've said, I said, I remember
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  driving up through Virginia and I hit Withville and I was on it.
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  I, I put it on a video and I said I'm in Wytheville, VA and I
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  got, I got slaughtered in the comments.
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  Oh, you know where you're not from?
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  Oh, yeah. You're just outside the state
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  Capitol there in Springfield. Very cool there, Chris.
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  And we've got Voodoo Viking. What's up, John, I already know
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  who you are on break at work. Have a good night.
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  He's down there in the bayous. Maybe not the bayous, but
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  Louisiana. We got all we got people from
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  all sorts of of of locations checking in.
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  Pronounced Chatham. OK, there it is.
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  So it ain't Chatham. I I bombed that 1.
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  So it's a Chatham. Not not to be confused with
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  Chatham. Not not What was it?
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  No, I'm thinking Channing Tatum. Why did I do that?
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  I don't know, Patrick. Why did I do that?
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  What's going on? Here.
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  Don't ask me, man. Come on, man.
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  You're supposed to you. You got it figured out over
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  here. You know, I thought you I
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  thought you were hosting this episode.
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  This. This.
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  Week, I thought, oh, wait a second.
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  Yeah. But yeah, man, Patrick is here.
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  We, we talked probably like a month or two ago about you
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  coming onto the show to talk about, well, music, the, the
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  power of music, you know, what it does for us with connection
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  and healing and all kinds of things.
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  Really. I mean, it's, it's, it's such a,
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  it's such a beautiful thing to when it comes to music, you know
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  what I mean? Like it's the universal, I say
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  the universal language, right? We don't have to understand the
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  language that's spoken in a song to feel connected to that song
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  because of the rhythm and because of the melodies and
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  stuff. So that's what we're going to
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  kind of lean into as far as a topic, I think this week.
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  Right. That's correct.
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  Yeah. So was there like a was there,
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  you know, what was the impetus behind your desire to want to
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  speak about music and its capacity to, you know, help us
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  with connection and healing and all of the various things, Like
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  what was what was behind your thought?
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  But to want to talk about this? Music is again.
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  You had one. Yeah, absolutely I do.
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  I do. Without a doubt.
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  Music is very beautiful in the way of no matter our way of life
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  and how we choose to live our lives and pursue our passions
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  and understand our struggles, music's always been there for
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  all of us from start to finish. And again, me new specifically
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  here, music has really shaped the way a lot of the way that we
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  do things. We have artists that we follow
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  me specifically with high long and a few other bands too.
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  You know, it's just there's music and then there's music,
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  and I really love that. You touched on something I was
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  going to touch on later on, but here we go is one of the main
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  reasons I love music is we don't really have to even understand
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  the lyrics, but just hearing and feeling the message, it just
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  hits on so many levels. And going back to my original
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  point there is this music is without prejudice, without
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  judgment. It's part of our journey and who
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  we are today. So that's my answer.
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  I can hear you for some reason. Sorry about that.
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  Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?
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  Yeah, you're fine. Yeah, yeah.
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  That was that was my fault. I think I had muted myself.
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  So let me let me start over with what following up after what you
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  said, that's my fault. My bad.
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  I think I had accidentally hit the mute button to let you speak
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  without interrupting. You're fine, yeah.
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  But yeah, we, we, we go through our lives, we discover so many
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  different styles of music. One of the things that you and I
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  recently spoke about was you asked me about like classical
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  music and if, if I appreciate or if I like certain classical
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  music, right. And that was a good, that was a
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  fun conversation because I do, I appreciate those.
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  Hold on, I lost you for a second.
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  I put my earbuds in. OK, go ahead.
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  I'm going to catch up on a comment here.
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  Sorry everybody, I'm trying to get my outlaw situation figured
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  out here. Jesse, try again here.
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  I can't. Hear you.
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  Yeah, Yeah. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
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  Test, test, test. La La La La La La.
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  I can't hear you. I can hear you just fine.
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  You can hear me. Yes.
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  Well, I can't hear you, so Yep. Maybe try something else, I
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  don't know give. Me a second.
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  I'm going to try to figure some things out really quick here.
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  Yep, go ahead. So Dina.
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  Hello, Dina. Music is about prejudice or
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  judgment. Yeah, is a beautiful.
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  Time and you know. Yep.
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  Yeah, so this is kind of one of those things with the live, you
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  know, when we have guests, we we just work through the technical
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  aspects of things, whether it's auditory or visual or what have
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  you. I'm not an ASL person.
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  I don't do ASL. Maybe I should because this
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  would probably be really beneficial if I could be like,
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  hey, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Can you hear me now?
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  Can't hear me. No, no, no.
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  Nothing. We were doing good there for a
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  minute. We were doing good there,
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  Patrick. We were doing good.
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  We were skating along just fine. Why my phone right now?
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  I can't hear you. I can hear you, but you can't
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  hear me. Hello.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Hearing aids. Gotta love them.
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  We'll get it working, folks. Just bear with us.
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  Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now?
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  Can you hear me now? Test.
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  Test. Test.
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  Test. Test.
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  Test. Hello.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Hello. Hello.
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  Hello. Oh, there we go, 5.
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  Hey, you see, that's all it. That's all it takes.
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  It just takes some traveling. It just takes some traveling.
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  Watching thank you for sitting with us.
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  Technology is my not my best friend for pushing a brand over
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  here in Jurassic Park over here, you know, we just don't get
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  along. You know, just I touched it.
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  I touched it. So anyways.
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  We're back on. All right, man.
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  Yes, All right. We we're good now.
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  We're good. But yeah.
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  So anyway, classical music, you remember that conversation we
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  had? Oh yes, I do.
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  Absolutely where it was like, you know, we yeah, hey, do you
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  like classical music? And then I'm like, hey, I'll
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  tell you something even more than that.
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  Like every now and then I like opera.
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  Don't know the first thing that they're saying, but the like
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  the, the, the, the energy, the, the, the, the theater of opera.
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  And and then you go same kind of thing goes with classical music.
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  You know, there's no, obviously there's no words to a lot of the
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  compositions of the of, you know, classical music.
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  It's it's all melody, but but you're following like a, a, an
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  emotional story in a way. I feel.
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  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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  So, yeah, you know, it's it's not always about like, I don't
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  know if you saw it before. I'll just put up here real
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  quick. Dina, who I just recently
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  interviewed said that like, to what your point was, Patrick?
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  You know, music is without prejudice or judgement.
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  You know, a very beautiful statement.
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  And Dina's great. Yeah.
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  No worries at all. Yeah, she's a great.
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  She's a great guest to have on the show, too.
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  Wonderful, wonderful insight to things.
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  Real quick, we'll just acknowledge here we have Mary
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  Myers, who is talking about high loan.
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  So, Patrick, do you know Mary or do you know of Mary Sounds?
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  Like, yeah, she's part of my group.
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  She's a really invaluable member.
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  She's really sweet. Thanks for joining, Mary.
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  Yeah, thank you for being here, Mary.
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  And you must have been catching this from the group because we
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  shared the the link to that from here.
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  So she says that to your point, High Lung taps lyrics from
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  ancient sources that may or may not resonate, but the way they
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  present it, the way Maria sings it makes a battle song sound
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  like a love song. Those lyrics in a language I
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  don't understand leaves a lot to my imagination.
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  And I have a rich imagination. Wow.
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  Thank you for sharing that. That's just very beautiful.
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  That is beautiful. Yeah.
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  And that's such a great way to to look at music, you know what
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  I mean? Like what what one person's
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  battle song could be, you know, something that they take with
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  them to fight or to face conflict, you know, for that
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  person might be to another person, the the melody of their
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  love and their softness and their comfort.
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  You know what I mean? Like it's amazing how how music
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  touches us. So like Patrick, do you have
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  like a, you have like anything that you would like to add to
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  that with regards to certain songs that maybe seem like they
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  should be a battle cry, but they turn out for you to be more like
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  a, you know, a love ballad or something that touches your
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  heart in a different way? I can't name any songs
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  specifically from this artist, but it's OPA about the song
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  sound very you know what I'm talking about, but they're very
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  heavy and it sounds aggressive is all get out.
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  But more often than not, it's, you know, not necessarily love,
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  but heartbreak or of that nature.
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  But again, you know, sounds very heavy, very, you know, thrashy,
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  very angry, but also at the same time very compassionate, very
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  soothing. Yeah, yeah.
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  I think Opeth is like one of those examples of, you know,
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  the, the, the spectrum that, that that heavy music can take
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  because it is, it's very melodic.
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  It's very almost like a lullaby in some aspects.
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  I mean, Blackwater Park, Blackwater Park is like, it's
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  all over the place. You get those real like heavy,
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  you know, just you. Know what I mean?
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  And then you get, you get, you get Mikhail's voice where he's
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  just like singing you to sleep. Another band that does that for
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  me similarly like what you're talking about.
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  Opeth is My Dying Bride. I don't know if you're familiar
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  with My Dying Bride, no. Not at all.
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  Yeah, Aaron, Aaron Stainthorpe I think was his name.
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  He recently parted ways with the band after 30 some odd years.
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  But I remember being on the road, working on the road and
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  having to catch sleep when and where I could in a sleeper bunk,
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  you know what I mean? I was on the road and I didn't
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  have a bed to sleep and I had a had a sleeping bunk in a van
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  full of inmates. And, you know, one of the things
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  that helped put me to sleep was I put my earbuds in and I play
• 25:27
  My Dying Bride. It's it's, it's I guess the, the
• 25:32
  genre of music would be classified as like funeral doom.
• 25:36
  So it's very melancholy. It's got a very slow tempo.
• 25:40
  Some people might say that it's very depressing, but to me it
• 25:45
  was soothing because he had a very, like his voice was very,
• 25:52
  it was soothing in a very dark way, you know?
• 25:55
  What I mean and that actually so touched on another artist we're
• 25:59
  going to mention here in the near future, but type of
• 26:02
  negative for example, I mean. Oh my gosh.
• 26:06
  I know I was going to stay at that for later, but just by the
• 26:09
  way, with that said, rest in peace, Peter.
• 26:15
  Any. Fans watching this podcast
• 26:18
  again, if you know, type of negative, you know what I mean,
• 26:22
  Drop some kind of emoji, like a heart's emoji or something, you
• 26:26
  know, Pierce silly, we love you. And you know, type of negative
• 26:29
  is very Moody, very broody, you know, it's just very heavy
• 26:32
  atmosphere too, and just with no filter, you know.
• 26:38
  For sure, for sure. We'll get to that in a second.
• 26:42
  Let me get voices from the gross is good evening.
• 26:44
  May the gods and ancestors be with you all.
• 26:46
  Thank you. Voices from the Grove watching
• 26:49
  from YouTube. But yeah, man, Peter Steele's
• 26:52
  voice is kind of one of those. I can't replicate that, you know
• 26:57
  what I mean? Like I I found a few bands that
• 27:00
  have like done tributes to Peter and to typo, but it's it's like,
• 27:07
  I don't I don't want to hear another Peter.
• 27:09
  Like I want to hear your take on those songs.
• 27:11
  I want to hear your version because Peter's voice is like,
• 27:13
  it's, you know, it's, it's timeless.
• 27:15
  It's it's. Iconic, just saying.
• 27:20
  I couldn't agree more though. Like I really love respect.
• 27:22
  We just said though too because like a lot of like, forgive me
• 27:26
  for getting off topic briefly here, but like.
• 27:29
  Now let's go. Movies that we'd love and
• 27:30
  appreciate. We just need the original movie.
• 27:33
  We don't need a sequel. We don't need anything
• 27:36
  continuing further from that. It's just beautiful as it is.
• 27:39
  And Peter though, like, it's funny too, because one of my
• 27:43
  best friends, Jamie, was actually part of a cover band
• 27:46
  for Taco Negative. I've heard their music and I
• 27:48
  love it. I love the appreciation and
• 27:51
  dedication they'd make from his work.
• 27:55
  Now when I listen to it every day, like Taco Negative, no.
• 27:59
  But I appreciate the gesture and again, the dedication to honor
• 28:04
  something so special, you know? Definitely what what did what
• 28:09
  was Jamie's part in that cover band or tribute band that was
• 28:13
  worth an instrument singing? I I know it's either one or two
• 28:17
  things, piano or guitar. Oh, OK.
• 28:22
  Probably piano 'cause she's an excellent pianist.
• 28:25
  Like, don't get me started on that.
• 28:27
  She's very more musically inclined than I am.
• 28:31
  I will say that on the off chance you've watched this or
• 28:33
  I'll share it there afterwards, but I.
• 28:36
  Yeah, well, I mean, you know, you're, it's your, you know,
• 28:39
  she's your friend from how long, You know what I mean?
• 28:41
  Like like. 20 years, What else? Well, yeah.
• 28:45
  Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I'm, I'm putting
• 28:47
  you on the spot. Like, what did she do You.
• 28:49
  Yeah. No, I just was, she shared that
• 28:52
  side group or group that she was, you know, partaking of.
• 28:57
  It was a long time ago. That's like easily over 10 years
• 29:00
  ago. So sure, sure, sure.
• 29:02
  Naturally, can't, you know, provide their exact answer just
• 29:06
  yet? But I'll ask her though.
• 29:09
  No, you're fine. You're fine.
• 29:10
  Yeah, that's cool. That's cool, man.
• 29:11
  My mom was a she, she studied piano too.
• 29:14
  She she had a my, my sister still to has the piano that my
• 29:19
  mom played. And I can remember there, there
• 29:21
  are two songs we talked about. We talked briefly before about
• 29:24
  classical music, right, and how it speaks to us.
• 29:28
  My mom was a classical pianist, so she didn't play like modern
• 29:35
  music, she learned. Songs.
• 29:39
  She learned music and she learned to read music by and and
• 29:42
  the music that she played were were classics or classical
• 29:46
  music. So I remember 2 songs that still
• 29:53
  to this day when I hear them make me think of her.
• 29:56
  It's Moonlight Sonata, my Beethoven.
• 30:02
  I think it's a Beethoven, yes. Try Beethoven.
• 30:05
  Without it and and also few release Beethoven's few release.
• 30:15
  But that man, that Moonlight Sonata Talk about, haunting talk
• 30:19
  about. Iconic as well.
• 30:21
  I mean, it's it's it's one of those pieces that just stands
• 30:24
  the test of time and it makes me think of her.
• 30:28
  And that's that's one of those things about, you know, what
• 30:31
  music draws up in us when we hear a song, it's not so much
• 30:34
  like what we felt in the moment. It's where we were, who we were
• 30:36
  with when we heard it. It puts us back into a place in
• 30:42
  time, like we're we're transported in a way.
• 30:48
  And I just want to catch. Yeah, go ahead.
• 30:49
  I was going. To say also how it could be
• 30:52
  applied too, because no matter how beautiful and heavy a lot of
• 30:56
  the classical songs and works are done, they can be applied in
• 31:02
  a very funny situations. You know, like very tragic.
• 31:05
  Oh no, I dip my Oreo the cup and the the Oreo just suck into the
• 31:10
  milk. You know, it's just like, Oh no,
• 31:15
  But you know, it could be applied in very different ways.
• 31:17
  And yeah, the song is still there, but it's, you know, it's
• 31:20
  really cool how you can do something like that.
• 31:21
  But anyways, sorry to continue further.
• 31:23
  No, that's great. See, I'm gonna come back to that
• 31:28
  in a minute. Mary also posted here.
• 31:30
  She says that Norupo, obviously this is a a high Lung song,
• 31:34
  which is the it's so it's for those of you that don't know,
• 31:37
  Norupo is high Lung's rune poem. They're they're singing the
• 31:42
  Norwegian rune poem. So Notarpot is an example.
• 31:46
  Continue to try and learn the length the lyrics in Norwegian,
• 31:49
  but in the meantime, I wrote my own lyrics to the tune Mary did
• 31:53
  that call the quarters and honor the direction and elements and I
• 31:57
  take out the antlers and reach for the sky.
• 32:04
  You know what, I think that Maria or, or or or Kai or Chris
• 32:12
  or any of the guy folks from, from Highland that would hear
• 32:14
  that Jacob, Maria, any of them, you know, I feel like that would
• 32:19
  really touch their hearts to see you connecting with the song in
• 32:23
  a way that speaks to you. Absolutely, without doubt,
• 32:26
  without doubt, Mary. And again, that's why she's part
• 32:28
  of my group and I'm sure other groups too.
• 32:31
  But again, going back to Mary, she's very important,
• 32:35
  fundamental. Again, thanks for joining the
• 32:37
  podcast. Sorry this morning, a good
• 32:39
  little shout out, if you will, but that's very beautiful.
• 32:42
  Thank you for sharing that. Thank you.
• 32:47
  Real quick on a couple other comments that are coming through
• 32:50
  here. So Voices from the Grove, just
• 32:52
  wanted to stop in before heading off to bed.
• 32:54
  Jesse and Patrick, take care of yourselves.
• 32:56
  Your two awesome people that I truly admire.
• 32:59
  Well, thank you so much. That's a beautiful
• 33:01
  acknowledgement and we appreciate you.
• 33:03
  Thank you We. Appreciate you for being here.
• 33:05
  Thank you. Thanks for stopping by and
• 33:07
  again, like I say, I'm opposed. You know, have a great night and
• 33:10
  better tomorrow. For sure.
• 33:13
  And there's our brother, Mr. Jon Deeson.
• 33:15
  Mr. Do the damn work, Deeson. Music will find you where you
• 33:21
  are is what he is. What Jon says.
• 33:24
  Music will find you where you are.
• 33:25
  Even even if OK, even if where you are is hold on, let me, let
• 33:33
  me, let me. I want to get this.
• 33:35
  John says that music will find you where you are.
• 33:37
  Even if where you are is at the the crusty end of a soggy Oreo
• 33:43
  who sunk into your cup of milk. Oreos, we're not going to go
• 33:49
  here, but you know what? I.
• 33:50
  Mean you've brought it up. You said that I have this.
• 33:54
  It's so cautious. I guess everyone was going to be
• 33:59
  so confused besides John. It's like, what is he talking
• 34:02
  about? Oreos?
• 34:03
  What? Why is this so funny?
• 34:05
  Like it had to be there kind of thing.
• 34:07
  Yeah, you'd have to be there. Yeah, you'd have to be there.
• 34:09
  You'd have to be like he said, like you'd have to be, you know,
• 34:15
  you'd have to, you have to be found where you were in that.
• 34:18
  And. And that's just where we were at
• 34:20
  the time. Because, man, dude, I think
• 34:22
  about that and I'm like, what's your song of, of, of an Oreo
• 34:25
  sunk in a cup of milk? Like what's?
• 34:27
  What does that soundtrack look like?
• 34:29
  DS DS Eddie. If I pronounce that correctly,
• 34:33
  the Day of Wrath or Day of Judgment, the I I Can't Sing to
• 34:39
  save my life, but I could play a song in the background.
• 34:43
  But DS Eddie. DE by who?
• 34:51
  I'm not going to. Play the sound here if I'll look
• 34:54
  it up really quick on YouTube since I have my PS4 up.
• 34:58
  John knows the business. John, John's on point man.
• 35:01
  John's standing on business. He he just commented HBO, he
• 35:04
  knows. He knows the business.
• 35:05
  Yeah, I know he does. I know he does, David.
• 35:09
  All right, so I'm going to spell the name of the song D i.e.
• 35:14
  S Space IRAE. OK, that could be Ray, could be
• 35:23
  Rye, depending on who you know, hold.
• 35:26
  On one second, forgive me. Yeah, while you're doing that, I
• 35:29
  was going to acknowledge we got a comment from Jay Roth,
• 35:32
  Chicago, I hope. That rings a bell.
• 35:49
  It's either it's either Verdi or Mozart, Christopher Miller says.
• 35:55
  Mozart. That's correct.
• 35:56
  Yes, That's Mozart. Mozart.
• 35:58
  Thank you for. Thank you.
• 35:59
  Yeah, I played it briefly, but yeah, it's.
• 36:03
  I'm trying to remember the name. It's Day of Wrath or Day of
• 36:07
  Judgment, one of the two. I know that much.
• 36:09
  Yeah. Probably Ray.
• 36:10
  Ray is probably judgment right or?
• 36:12
  Judgment. Yeah, that sounds about right,
• 36:13
  yeah. But thank you, Jah.
• 36:16
  Let's see. We got who's this Jay Roth
• 36:21
  Chicago Jr. of Chicago. We'll see.
• 36:24
  We'll do that way. Jr. of Chicago says respect and
• 36:27
  honor to you both. Thank you Jr.
• 36:29
  Thank you jar. We got another brother from
• 36:33
  another mother checking in. Adam Cage, the standing moose is
• 36:38
  in the house. What's up, man?
• 36:41
  Let's go rocking and rolling. Yeah?
• 36:46
  Mozart, John, John. John knows too.
• 36:48
  See. Yeah, no surprise.
• 36:50
  See all these heathens, the people out here that talk about
• 36:52
  heathens being uncultured and this and that.
• 36:55
  Listen, we got people in here that really know a thing or two.
• 36:58
  Please. Chris is like, Yep, that's the
• 37:00
  Mozart one. I do on a good day, but clearly
• 37:04
  not today. But again, the fact that you
• 37:07
  guys recognize that again, like just just said, we're cultured.
• 37:12
  Come on, you know we don't. Know sometimes our shirts are
• 37:15
  collared, you know what I mean? We have we, you know, we, we, we
• 37:20
  clean up nice you know what I mean?
• 37:21
  We clean up nice. We do, we do, we do all right.
• 37:26
  Yeah, dude, you talked about, you talked about a few musical
• 37:28
  projects. You talked about, of course, you
• 37:31
  know Highlong, you talked about Opeth, you talked about Typo.
• 37:39
  What's another? What's another like really
• 37:41
  influential band or or or musical project that you know of
• 37:46
  any sort that that really hits you in a certain way and in in
• 37:50
  what way does it hit you? I'm really happy that you
• 37:53
  brought me to this point because I'm happy you 2 pulled up my
• 37:56
  screen here. But Gozira?
• 38:00
  Yeah. I mean, what?
• 38:04
  Here's what I love most about the band or one of the One of
• 38:08
  the one of the things I love most about them is a lot of
• 38:12
  people hear them. It sounds heavy, it sounds
• 38:15
  aggressive, it sounds evil. But no.
• 38:19
  So one of my best friends introduced me to this band.
• 38:22
  And fun fact too, when I first heard them, I wasn't crazy about
• 38:25
  it. I'm like, yeah, whatever.
• 38:27
  Yeah, I know. Believe it or not.
• 38:29
  But after a while, one day, I looked up their lyrics to one of
• 38:35
  their songs. I'm like.
• 38:39
  Do you do you remember what song it was that you first heard that
• 38:42
  you weren't too impressed with? Yes, and it's strangely enough
• 38:46
  one of the songs I love most, and I'm not going to play it
• 38:48
  live here with respect, but yeah, it was Gojira.
• 38:53
  Flying Whales. That's what I was about to say.
• 38:55
  It was probably flying whales because that's like one of
• 38:57
  those. They're like, it's almost like
• 38:58
  Metallica's back in or the black the black Album, like anything
• 39:04
  on the black out like most people that get maybe not most,
• 39:09
  but a lot of people that get introduced to Metallica, you
• 39:11
  know, it's like Enter Sandman or whatever, you know what I mean?
• 39:14
  So it's like Gojira's Enter Sandman is is flying will.
• 39:17
  It's like a one hit wonder if you will, but it's not one hit.
• 39:19
  It's like several hits. Yeah.
• 39:22
  But yeah, going back to Gojira though is again like this year
• 39:27
  and last year especially. Like I got to see them actually
• 39:32
  I got to see them live 2 times. First time without knowing I was
• 39:36
  going to not best with my best friend Jamie.
• 39:39
  And during that show I got to see, I got to see Behemoth live
• 39:44
  my first time. That was a bookmark and a bucket
• 39:47
  list for the longest time. I don't know if I ever told you
• 39:50
  that, but I got to see Behemoth play.
• 39:51
  I was beside myself like oh hell yes.
• 39:55
  And it's very that without provocation, without any
• 39:58
  mentioning it was very much. Evil again loosely said, but it
• 40:03
  is satanic. It is what an.
• 40:05
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, come on, They're not
• 40:07
  trying to pretend to be anything else.
• 40:09
  Like, rotting, rotting. See the rest of the band.
• 40:13
  I don't want to get flagged here, but you know what I mean.
• 40:15
  The rotting, rotting Christ. Yeah, I mean that band.
• 40:20
  Anyways, I got to stop myself. Like going back to Kojira.
• 40:23
  So back to that memory. I got to see Behemoth, Kojira,
• 40:30
  Volbeat. I never will care.
• 40:34
  For Volbeat, I've seen Volbeat. I got a fun story to talk about
• 40:37
  Volbeat when time comes later. Yeah, yeah.
• 40:39
  And then Volbeat and then of course Slipknot I mean.
• 40:47
  Any. Time I hear Slipknot, I'm going
• 40:49
  to start thrashing out like the heretic.
• 40:51
  Anthem, you know what I mean like like like that's that's the
• 40:55
  soundtrack to our youth baby, you know what I mean?
• 40:57
  That's. Exactly fucking right.
• 40:59
  That's exactly what I was going to to like Slipknot goes back to
• 41:03
  like my middle school and high school days, like my point of
• 41:06
  origins with music, like really get into the chapter that I am
• 41:10
  today. And going further from that,
• 41:12
  like Slipknot again, say what you will, I love their earlier
• 41:16
  albums through and through. I'm sure many of us do as well.
• 41:19
  But anyways, I'm getting off the beating path here.
• 41:22
  Gozira, Let me get back to the point of origins here with that
• 41:26
  Gozira. Again, there's a lot of songs
• 41:29
  that they had made, and again, they sound heavy, they sound
• 41:33
  thrashy. But when you really look up
• 41:35
  their lyrics, it's simply amazing.
• 41:38
  Like you have songs like The Cell, you have songs like Mia
• 41:42
  Koopa. They actually got to play part
• 41:45
  of the Olympics last year. They opened up they that
• 41:50
  performance. Oh, thank you.
• 41:52
  You saw it. Yeah, it just.
• 41:55
  The fact that. Who hasn't seen it?
• 41:57
  Like you're not somebody. Person.
• 41:59
  I'm a lucky person, yeah, very unlucky, but.
• 42:01
  Just if you haven't seen that performance at the Olympics
• 42:04
  where they played it in Paris. I'll fuck at like now.
• 42:11
  There are some shows leading up to it and afterwards, but that
• 42:14
  part, without doubt, again like music often does, comes to us at
• 42:18
  a very important time in our lives.
• 42:21
  Again, more on that later, but just again, that red letter.
• 42:25
  Just the heck. The fact that not only goes Jira
• 42:28
  was recognized as such a special occasion, but just that genre of
• 42:33
  music becoming normal is very, very amazing and badass for a
• 42:39
  lot of us metal heads like this again.
• 42:42
  Right. Yeah, like that representation
• 42:44
  of the kind of extreme side of music.
• 42:47
  You know what I mean? And that realization too, it's
• 42:49
  not all bad. They have really great messages.
• 42:53
  It sounds heavy for, for, for a reason.
• 42:55
  Because life is fucking heavy. Life is aggressive.
• 42:58
  Life is, you know, crazy. And it's all hell.
• 43:00
  But this again. For sure, Adam says that Bob
• 43:05
  Seger, Bob Seger, I swear if his songs were newer, he would have
• 43:10
  followed me around. Bob Seger is one of them ones
• 43:12
  man, that you know, it's a, you know, a lot of it's generational
• 43:15
  to music. You know, certain songs of
• 43:18
  certain generations really hit because like, you know, I grew
• 43:24
  up in the 80s, you know, late 80s, early 90s and my dad was
• 43:28
  listening to music from his generation, you know, the 60s
• 43:31
  and the 70s and into the 80s. So I grew up with Seeger and
• 43:36
  Hendrix and, you know, the 38 Special and and you know. 3
• 43:41
  doors or the doors? Sorry, the three doors.
• 43:43
  Yeah, no. What is it called?
• 43:48
  38 Special and like, you know, Sabbath and and Steve Miller
• 43:53
  Band, Marshall Tucker, you know what I mean?
• 43:56
  All that kind of stuff like that was like Americana kind of stuff
• 43:59
  like it was like American rock'n'roll, you know what I
• 44:01
  mean? So I'm just catching up on some
• 44:05
  comments real quick. You're.
• 44:06
  Fine, I'm actually gonna hop off screen for a couple seconds, if
• 44:09
  you will, but I'll be back. Yeah, that's cool.
• 44:10
  I'm gonna catch up here. So we got Zaiptoteca.
• 44:16
  How goes it? It goes all right, Zaiptoteca,
• 44:19
  if I'm saying that right over there on YouTube.
• 44:20
  Thanks for thanks for catching the, the live stream and
• 44:25
  watching. And then Adam Cage's first
• 44:28
  concert was Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon 92.
• 44:31
  Dude, I would have loved to seen Pink Floyd back then.
• 44:35
  I mean, I really would have under the right, under the right
• 44:39
  circumstances, 'cause I feel like Pink Floyd is like, it's
• 44:43
  almost like Tool, you know, like Pink Floyd's an experience.
• 44:45
  You know what? I.
• 44:47
  Mean like you gotta you gotta you gotta experience the the
• 44:51
  live performance and not just so jealous.
• 44:54
  Watch it. But but yeah, Jon decent says we
• 45:00
  are a classy bunch. I mean, we are, we're, you know.
• 45:03
  We. We, we, we, we're, we're OK to
• 45:05
  get dirty when the time comes. But we're also, we're not just,
• 45:09
  you know, some ignorant, some bitches out here.
• 45:15
  We got it going on. I think one of the most, like
• 45:16
  you were talking earlier about, you know, Behemoth and stuff,
• 45:21
  like one of the most brutal shows I was that I got to see
• 45:26
  was what are they called? Not Behemoth.
• 45:33
  Demu Borgier. Wasn't Demu Borgier?
• 45:37
  OK, I was going to lose my shit, but yeah.
• 45:40
  It was it was, it was another black metal fuck.
• 45:44
  Why can't I remember him? Give me a second.
• 45:45
  Give me a second. OK, OK.
• 45:47
  It was a black metal band. Black metal.
• 45:49
  Band. Wasn't Gorgoroth, wasn't
• 45:54
  Gorgoroth, It wasn't Cradle Bill.
• 45:57
  No, no. I had to shooting blind here.
• 46:04
  I don't. Know.
• 46:07
  Yeah, I know why it starts with AB Elphagore.
• 46:13
  Nope. Mark Vickers Rotten.
• 46:17
  Just no Belphagore Belfigor was the was the band that I saw.
• 46:23
  Never heard of him. What?
• 46:25
  Oh boy, catch you later on. Where, Where?
• 46:29
  My, where my, where my black metal People in the comments.
• 46:31
  Belfigor. What do you know about that?
• 46:35
  Yeah, They had the bloody sheep's head out there on the
• 46:37
  stage, dudes. Mike.
• 46:40
  Yeah, man. And it was this little dive bar
• 46:44
  venue in North Carolina where I saw him.
• 46:49
  Yep, matter of fact. So funny story, right?
• 46:56
  The, The the venue that I saw Belfagore at was one of the
• 47:01
  supporting acts that played that show was a band called
• 47:07
  Bastherian. And he was a man.
• 47:11
  He was a guy. He was him and his wife were in
• 47:13
  the band with some other people. One of those people was a mutual
• 47:19
  friend at the time, a mutual friend of Zeb, who Patrick, you
• 47:24
  and I both know, of course. And that is kind of how when I
• 47:30
  saw Bastarian, we invited them out here to Middle Tennessee to
• 47:35
  play a Halloween show one year. Vanessa and I did.
• 47:40
  So we hosted them. We, we had them stay here at the
• 47:42
  house. It was like 5 people, you know,
• 47:45
  so we had the futon out, we had the spare bedroom and this and
• 47:47
  that. We had like, you know, 5 band
• 47:49
  members staying with us because they came out from, from North
• 47:51
  Carolina to play a one night show.
• 47:56
  And one of the members we stayed in touch with.
• 47:59
  And then that person ended up in a project with Zeb at the time.
• 48:03
  And then we were out and out North Carolina one time, and we
• 48:06
  interviewed that band project. And that's How I Met Zeb.
• 48:12
  Really. I knew that.
• 48:14
  Yeah. And from So.
• 48:15
  Yeah. So from there, Zeb and I stayed
• 48:18
  in touch and I introduced him to JM.
• 48:24
  So that's why they became friends.
• 48:26
  I'm just my mind being blown, yeah.
• 48:29
  Yeah, dude, music. Music is what connected us.
• 48:33
  Music is what kind of started that started that connection.
• 48:41
  Pantera. Adam says Pantera dude, yes.
• 48:44
  I mean, listen, I didn't get to see Pantera with Dime and a lot
• 48:47
  of the diehards are going to say that there is no Pantera without
• 48:51
  Dime or Vin and I respect that opinion.
• 48:55
  I I saw Pantera with Phil and Rex.
• 48:59
  I've seen Rex perform live once before in his own thing.
• 49:03
  Funny story. Not funny story, but Rex Brown
• 49:07
  was in a band with Johnny Kelly who played drums in Type O
• 49:10
  Negative. So I've met Johnny Kelly in
• 49:13
  person, I've interviewed him, I've talked to him.
• 49:15
  I met Rex Brown in person one night in in Nashville, but I so,
• 49:20
  so obviously, you know, Panteras just now it's it's Phil and Rex.
• 49:24
  They got Zach, they got Charlie on drums and but I get I did get
• 49:32
  to see that version or that iteration of Pantera a year or
• 49:37
  two ago. So yeah, Johnny Kelly did you?
• 49:42
  I I when I interviewed Johnny years ago, he was he was, he had
• 49:47
  like memories about Pete. He was talking about typo before
• 49:50
  and it was like some of the funniest shit.
• 49:52
  Like he was talking about like how Pete would like order
• 49:56
  Chinese food or, or so they ever forget what the what the story
• 50:00
  of it was, but it was such a such a a like come dumb thing,
• 50:05
  But like, what's your favorite memory of Pete?
• 50:06
  You know, and he's like, man, there's one time, you know, we
• 50:10
  were all in Brooklyn and we were doing this thing and Pete, you
• 50:12
  know, he was drunk or he was high or whatever the situation
• 50:15
  was. And he was like in the middle of
• 50:20
  the night and ordering Chinese food.
• 50:22
  And then he got pissed off about what was ordered or something.
• 50:24
  It was. I could kind of see that too.
• 50:28
  Yeah, what does this if? You know, you know, and.
• 50:39
  But yeah, really sorry. Yeah, go ahead.
• 50:42
  No man, go for it. I'm I've I've been I'm really
• 50:45
  happy. We're talking about music right
• 50:46
  now and hearing the story about you mini ZAP and then ZAP mini
• 50:53
  Josh like this. It all comes full circle and
• 50:57
  having some of our brothers here part of this chat, you know,
• 51:00
  it's very, very special. Absolutely.
• 51:04
  Like Adam says y'all Miss Rowan with Zeb at Nashville Pagan
• 51:08
  Pride Day. I, you know, I was, I was, I was
• 51:11
  vending that. So like Zeb, he performed at
• 51:14
  Nashville Pagan Pride this year. And I remember seeing the videos
• 51:18
  of like, Adam was out there with a few other folks out there on
• 51:21
  the lawn rowing, you know, like rowing a boat out.
• 51:28
  There I saw pictures of that. That's pretty badass.
• 51:30
  I saw it. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I did.
• 51:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:33
  And yeah, it is just, he's just such good people, man.
• 51:37
  Like, just to have him come out here and share his, share his
• 51:40
  music, first of all, with a community that may not have
• 51:45
  otherwise been exposed to that because, you know, he he's he's
• 51:49
  local to a certain area. So unless you like stream his
• 51:52
  music, you're not going to know about him.
• 51:56
  But for those of you that are listening or watching this live
• 52:00
  stream, when I'm talking who I'm talking about, it's Skogermore.
• 52:04
  And I'll try to put, I'll try to go back into the to the comments
• 52:08
  or sorry, the description area of the video later and throw a
• 52:11
  link down there for you on where you can find his music.
• 52:15
  He also provides great music, but also beer care.
• 52:21
  He provides beer, oil and gel, if you will, and I actually
• 52:29
  applied some of his work for this stream.
• 52:32
  What happened since? Oh, I was going to jump off
• 52:36
  camera here and grab it, but he did me the the favor of grabbing
• 52:40
  it, so yeah. This one was a This one was an
• 52:44
  exclusive. Yep.
• 52:47
  Because yeah, this was the one that he.
• 52:50
  Had. Yep, Yep.
• 52:52
  Right. I'm like a time for my beard.
• 52:55
  I'm like. Oranges, oranges and cinnamon.
• 53:00
  This was an exclusive limited edition sent an LTO.
• 53:05
  Yeah, yeah. That he, So he, he, he, I think
• 53:08
  he premiered this or he, he, he shared this at TVE this year,
• 53:12
  the Viking Experience in Oxford, NC.
• 53:16
  And I'm a sucker for like cinnamon and and citrus, you
• 53:20
  know what I'm saying? I hear it, but I'll tell you
• 53:22
  what. His or her time.
• 53:23
  The pot. Just about the sand, The pine
• 53:27
  scent. You know me.
• 53:29
  You know you guys know me. I'm a sucker for pine
• 53:32
  evergreens. I mean just that smell alone.
• 53:35
  Insiders. All the best sense like I shared
• 53:39
  with you before, my special place, I go hiking and walking
• 53:42
  the pine trail, walking through there any season.
• 53:46
  It's just anyways off the point, but yeah.
• 53:51
  No, Dad, dude, Well, talking about that, you know, you, you,
• 53:56
  you've you spent some really special time out there in those
• 54:00
  pine trails. You you've assembled some really
• 54:05
  cool primitive lean to structures in that space.
• 54:11
  If are we talking about the same?
• 54:13
  Yes, we. Are we are indeed?
• 54:14
  Yes, we are no that. But I also did a couple couple
• 54:18
  of cover videos or drumming videos covering a few artists
• 54:22
  that I love and appreciate a triga loopy for example.
• 54:26
  Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of what I was
• 54:28
  going to bring to the to the front of the conversation is
• 54:31
  that with with space, you know what I mean?
• 54:33
  And and holding space or being in an, in an environment and how
• 54:37
  certain songs or certain music helps us connect with an
• 54:43
  environment, you know. Absolutely, without doubt.
• 54:48
  What's it was the most important too for me to remember and
• 54:52
  looking back on our artists mainly going to the Norse music
• 54:58
  here like a Turkey loopy in Highland and Puma name Magnor.
• 55:03
  I had to throw all their names into the ring here.
• 55:05
  But a Turkey loopy, especially in Highland is they take time,
• 55:13
  so much sacrifices and energy to very magnificent places.
• 55:19
  Like when we see these videos, it's like, oh, we're reacting
• 55:24
  like they live 5 minutes away from there.
• 55:26
  No, no, no, not at all. And knit land too.
• 55:31
  I would have kicked myself in the ass if I didn't mention it
• 55:33
  tonight. Like just saying.
• 55:35
  You know what I mean though? Like, Oh yeah, their journeys
• 55:38
  again, when I make these videos, whether it be in knit land, high
• 55:42
  lung, a Turkey loopy and so on and so forth, I never to
• 55:48
  somewhat honor what they go through to make their music
• 55:54
  possible. Like covering a Turkey loopy,
• 55:56
  for example, like this. I embodied their spirit like,
• 56:00
  wow, I'm taking this time and not to their extent by any
• 56:03
  means, but this like really like practicing their songs at home.
• 56:09
  Like I share with you a little, you know, excerpts and, you
• 56:12
  know, test runs, if you will. Like, how's this sound?
• 56:15
  Does it sound all right? It sound good.
• 56:17
  And then mastering that song to a point and going to the special
• 56:21
  place again, not my backyard. I've done it before, but not my
• 56:24
  backyard, but somewhere special. And that really raises not only
• 56:28
  the energy, but again, the the journey and what it takes to
• 56:35
  make that possible, right. This is truly magnificent.
• 56:40
  Yeah, absolutely, man, I think a lot of what music does for us is
• 56:44
  it it, it like I I think I mentioned before, like it
• 56:46
  transports us, right? Whether it's to a place in time,
• 56:51
  right, because of a memory, our parents listen to it, We were
• 56:54
  introduced to it as kids or it's from our childhood or this or
• 56:57
  that. But so much of like what you're
• 57:00
  talking about with some of these musicians and performers and
• 57:06
  artists who take the time to not just give us an auditory
• 57:11
  experience, but they give us a visual experience.
• 57:13
  Let's go to this forest, let's go to this mountain, let's go to
• 57:16
  this field. Mira Seti is another one who
• 57:18
  does who has none things like this before, you know what I
• 57:21
  mean? The landscape paints a picture
• 57:24
  for our visual senses to be transported to that place
• 57:30
  through spirit or through through the activity of the
• 57:32
  music. But that, that like I can
• 57:34
  picture myself being there, you know what I mean, while not
• 57:38
  physically being there, right. It's A and then how you honor
• 57:43
  that, like Mary was talking about before, how she, she takes
• 57:47
  no repo. And while she may not understand
• 57:49
  the language or whatever that it's a rune song.
• 57:52
  It's it's, it's she, she transforms it into something of
• 57:55
  her own meaning and makes it meaningful.
• 57:58
  And that and that is that universal language again, coming
• 58:01
  through to nurture and to heal and to guide in all of these
• 58:08
  things, you know. And if I may will, if I can, me
• 58:13
  and you have shared a very awesome encounters and
• 58:18
  relationship to an extent or appreciation, if you will, of
• 58:21
  mere SETI, like with all pilots work, all the side projects like
• 58:26
  I mentioned in my group and on my page too, Her work stands
• 58:33
  out, enjoying, admiring, maybe ending your interview with her
• 58:40
  and then another interview I shared with you, you've watched
• 58:43
  before I even shared it with you.
• 58:44
  But again, her work, it's simply outstanding.
• 58:51
  I can't explain it and the ways I want to, but if like the right
• 58:55
  people know what I'm saying, you're like you.
• 58:57
  That's your all of our brothers too.
• 58:59
  But just like it, just it has differently.
• 59:03
  And like her, appreciation is outside of Highland, but also
• 59:08
  with it. Well, yeah, because it's so
• 59:11
  reached. It's, it's so deeply rooted in
• 59:14
  her culture and in her ancestral roots.
• 59:17
  And then that's what her artistry is, you know, founded
• 59:24
  in the expression of her art is, is rooted in connecting with her
• 59:31
  ancestor and her ancestors. You know what I'm saying?
• 59:34
  Absolutely, whether it be the land or the musical styles.
• 59:40
  Like I've recently come across a musician, oddly enough, who's
• 59:46
  who's been around for decades. And I've just recently
• 59:49
  discovered them. They, they don't, I don't think
• 59:53
  they perform live, but they, they have music out there and,
• 59:59
  and I'm not an old English student of the language.
• 1:00:04
  I don't know all the right pronunciations.
• 1:00:07
  But if I'm, if I'm saying this correctly, it's elfric or
• 1:00:11
  elfric. I don't know because it's a
• 1:00:13
  ELFRIC. So I don't remember if the C at
• 1:00:17
  the end of the letter or any word is gives the chapter phenom
• 1:00:21
  or if it is the C like K sound but it's elfric or elfric.
• 1:00:27
  Germanic folk music that is aimed at, at preserving the
• 1:00:34
  traditional meter and, and pattern of old Germanic folk
• 1:00:40
  music. So it's not really meant to be
• 1:00:42
  like, you're not going to be like vibe into it going down the
• 1:00:46
  street or, or whatever, you know, driving down the road or,
• 1:00:50
  or jamming in the woods. But it's it speaks to an
• 1:00:53
  ancestral part of ourselves, you know, that that that whole
• 1:00:58
  connection to our ancestry, to our roots, you know, and that's
• 1:01:02
  what Mira has has really done too.
• 1:01:04
  Is is is shared that aspect of I lost my audio.
• 1:01:07
  By the way. Uh oh, can you hear me?
• 1:01:12
  Can you hear me again? Just moving around on the on the
• 1:01:17
  I I can hear you. You're you're good.
• 1:01:20
  I can hear you. I can hear you.
• 1:01:24
  So can. Can you hear me?
• 1:01:32
  Test, Test, test, test, test, test, test.
• 1:01:37
  La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La.
• 1:01:41
  The guys can hear me. I'm sorry.
• 1:01:44
  Yeah, I was trying to. We can hear you.
• 1:01:50
  We can hear. Me.
• 1:01:51
  Cool, I was trying to change my hearing aid from my Airpods.
• 1:01:55
  It didn't work out. So yeah, it's very frustrating
• 1:01:59
  that I can't hear you at this moment, but I'm hoping the audio
• 1:02:05
  returns sometime soon. Yeah, try.
• 1:02:08
  I don't know how to say it but like.
• 1:02:11
  I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Try it.
• 1:02:14
  I we can hear you like I can hear you should.
• 1:02:18
  Be a tricking game at this point, I know.
• 1:02:21
  Oh my God. Stop messing with a good thing,
• 1:02:25
  Patrick. When you're like like trying to
• 1:02:27
  reenact the scene or movie like just son of a bitch, give me a
• 1:02:31
  few more seconds. I use my shit we're.
• 1:02:36
  Going to do this the old school way I.
• 1:02:44
  I should have done it like, oh, wow, let's try to charge my
• 1:02:48
  hearing aid. Yeah, here we go.
• 1:02:51
  Let's floor. Let's move.
• 1:02:52
  It will run there, but I can hear you.
• 1:02:56
  Yes, yes, yes, yes, I can hear. You.
• 1:02:58
  I can't see that yet. To draw a little closer here you
• 1:03:04
  can hear. Cool.
• 1:03:05
  Well, I can't hear you, but it's challenging me.
• 1:03:12
  Shoot some ladders. I wish we could pause this, but
• 1:03:16
  we're live. People, we're live.
• 1:03:18
  Hold on watch. That why can't just put it on
• 1:03:21
  audio without my hearing aid or my earbuds.
• 1:03:27
  Oh bless your heart, Jesse. Oh this guy over here.
• 1:03:31
  Guys, I'm sorry again. My technology is pretty shit for
• 1:03:35
  the least. One stay on one type.
• 1:03:44
  Settings here. Of what do you call it?
• 1:03:49
  One type of audio device? We're going to try that.
• 1:03:58
  Maybe this will work. I don't know, Like let me see.
• 1:04:02
  Stay on one type of audio device.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah, I've done that. I've done that.
• 1:04:09
  I had the audio on at all. Right Now I just have my phone
• 1:04:17
  maximum I disconnected my earbuds.
• 1:04:21
  OK. Batteries are separated my air
• 1:04:26
  pods. What do you have?
• 1:04:27
  What do you have in? What do you have in?
• 1:04:33
  Do you, I don't know, like what's in here?
• 1:04:43
  We're going to get through this, people.
• 1:04:45
  This is this is the kind of shit that I'm talking about.
• 1:04:46
  It's so much fun. It's so much.
• 1:04:48
  Fun. Can I possibly join afterwards?
• 1:04:52
  Yeah, whatever you're going to do.
• 1:04:53
  Yeah, yeah. Leave and come back.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah. Do what you got to do, because
• 1:05:03
  I'm over here doing doing how to do.
• 1:05:07
  Bless his art, dude. Oh.
• 1:05:12
  Oh, he's saying, oh, listen, when this thing comes out on the
• 1:05:18
  audio platforms, 7 people are watching.
• 1:05:20
  This is crazy. When, when, when this comes out
• 1:05:23
  on the audio platforms later this week, they're going to be
• 1:05:25
  like, what in the hell is going on?
• 1:05:27
  But this is the fun. This is this is I don't know.
• 1:05:33
  It's it's part of the it's part of the fun guys and gals.
• 1:05:39
  What a way to to wrap up the the last live experience.
• 1:05:49
  Let's see here. What can I do?
• 1:05:50
  Let's see, check your audio settings.
• 1:06:06
  Check your audio settings because obviously something's
• 1:06:08
  changed. I.
• 1:06:17
  Just did that. I just checked my audio
• 1:06:18
  settings. I'm making this really shitty
• 1:06:20
  podcast and I'm sorry in advance.
• 1:06:22
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:06:24
  Listen, listen, you're going to people are going to hear this
• 1:06:26
  later and it's going to be, this ain't his fault.
• 1:06:28
  It's just, it is what it is. We got to work through it.
• 1:06:31
  Ain't nobody making this. When he comes back, we're going
• 1:06:34
  to, we're going to make this a, we're going to be clear about
• 1:06:37
  it. Let's see here, what else can we
• 1:06:46
  try? What's up Chris, every time a
• 1:06:54
  song is sung, its energy is rekindled and fed.
• 1:06:57
  I have used wardroon as melody from Voluspa to breathe life
• 1:07:01
  into other stanzas, and we try to work drumming and singing
• 1:07:05
  into all of our rituals. That's really cool, Chris.
• 1:07:11
  We're going to talk about it. Thank you for sharing that.
• 1:07:13
  Oh, wait a minute, Patrick. Wait a minute, wait a minute, I
• 1:07:15
  think. We got it, Patrick.
• 1:07:17
  Patrick, hold on, hold on. I think we got.
• 1:07:19
  It give me a second I might figure it out here.
• 1:07:23
  Yes, yes. Do it.
• 1:07:25
  Do it, Patrick, do it. Do it.
• 1:07:30
  Search your feelings. You know them to be.
• 1:07:33
  True. All right.
• 1:07:34
  I think I'll figure it out. Maybe.
• 1:07:36
  Possibly. Search your feelings young I.
• 1:07:40
  Checked the audio settings and I set it up to my Airpods.
• 1:07:44
  Yes, Airpods are good. Still can't hear you?
• 1:07:47
  Resync your Airpods. Resync your Airpods.
• 1:07:59
  Young Skywalker, search your Airpods.
• 1:08:02
  I got connected again. Resync your Airpods, young
• 1:08:07
  Skywalker. Re sync your Airpods.
• 1:08:17
  Re sync your Airpods? Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  You want me to do it there again?
• 1:08:24
  Nothing. OK, yes, this is so cool.
• 1:08:35
  I did. So I did a couple times.
• 1:08:37
  I turned them off and turned them on.
• 1:08:39
  No luck. This is what you get for being
• 1:08:42
  an iPhone user. Loki, you set up a fucking
• 1:08:45
  bitch. God damn it.
• 1:08:46
  Come on. Come on it.
• 1:08:49
  Ain't Logie man just. Say, just say, you know what I
• 1:08:52
  mean? I'm really sorry I'm making this
• 1:08:54
  really shitty podcast. I Oh my God.
• 1:08:56
  Sorry this ridiculous. Oh, this is going to be awesome.
• 1:08:58
  I was trying to change. My.
• 1:09:00
  Hearing devices so I could charge my Airpods for later on
• 1:09:03
  this app or this evening and it's.
• 1:09:05
  Hell with later on. Shit so.
• 1:09:07
  Hell with later on, dude. I'm going to check the settings
• 1:09:09
  here. Really quick here again, good.
• 1:09:13
  Night, Mary. All the best.
• 1:09:15
  You've got this. Yeah, we got this.
• 1:09:16
  We're going to. We're going to.
• 1:09:17
  We're just going to keep playing around.
• 1:09:19
  Setting. No.
• 1:09:19
  What else you going to do it? Just keep playing around.
• 1:09:22
  What is it we've been going for a little over?
• 1:09:26
  Audio. Thank you Mary for being here by
• 1:09:29
  the way. Appreciate you and your support.
• 1:09:31
  Have a great night. Can be like stop playing with
• 1:09:44
  things that don't need to be played with AH.
• 1:09:50
  Fucking hell, son of A. Bitch, whatever.
• 1:09:52
  It works. Whatever.
• 1:09:53
  It works. Yeah, I can hear you.
• 1:09:55
  Yeah, we can hear you just fine. You can hear me, but I still
• 1:10:00
  can't hear you. Of course.
• 1:10:02
  Why not? Yeah, we can hear you just fine.
• 1:10:10
  I'm trying my best right now to figure out this audio situation
• 1:10:14
  as it's not working to my favor at all.
• 1:10:16
  Not by any search of imagination here.
• 1:10:22
  No. Don't use it, are we?
• 1:10:24
  Wait. I hear you.
• 1:10:26
  I hear you. Oh my gosh.
• 1:10:27
  Fucking. Hell.
• 1:10:28
  Can you hear me? Fucking?
• 1:10:29
  Can you hear me? Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:10:31
  OK, Well just to make sure, you can here.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, listen, stop worrying
• 1:10:39
  about what's happening later. You're in the moment now.
• 1:10:41
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:10:43
  Fucking present bro. Come on now, I'm here.
• 1:10:46
  Play ball. God, that's.
• 1:10:50
  Such a. Fucking message.
• 1:10:51
  I'm sorry so much sorry. No no, no, no, no.
• 1:10:54
  Don't be sorry because you know why This is going to make for
• 1:10:57
  some epic B roll footage. We're live like.
• 1:11:00
  Like but it's going. To be so lucky you guys, yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Enjoy. Oh my God.
• 1:11:11
  All right, let's see now who we got, what we got.
• 1:11:14
  We got somebody just bombing in the we got, Let's see, here we
• 1:11:19
  got, Wesley Curry says. Wow on YouTube.
• 1:11:24
  Wow, what cosplay? Oh cool.
• 1:11:28
  All right, I am the vision from Jesus a foot.
• 1:11:30
  Oh cool. Oh, so you want to be part of
• 1:11:32
  the B roll footage too you maniac.
• 1:11:36
  Good God. Watch this.
• 1:11:38
  Let's say let's, let's, let's, let's do this.
• 1:11:40
  So let's, let's, let's, let's play a little game.
• 1:11:42
  I am from the vision. I saw the vision from Jesus.
• 1:11:45
  A foot cut off in the valley means one will do.
• 1:11:49
  Who brings these cucamongas into this chat?
• 1:11:52
  Jesus told you to tell that vision, did you what?
• 1:11:59
  No, sorry. What is this?
• 1:12:00
  Look at it, look at it. Look at this dude.
• 1:12:02
  No time to talk Allah listen to this.
• 1:12:04
  Watch this. Oh fucking hell dude this is
• 1:12:06
  crazy. Listen blind for 10 seconds by
• 1:12:12
  the hand of God Jesus for not telling the vision.
• 1:12:15
  Adios amigos, bye bye. Sign our.
• 1:12:20
  You're you're toast. Peace out, you're out here.
• 1:12:23
  All right, back to the mean potatoes.
• 1:12:25
  Goddamn listen dude, listen. We did it, we did it.
• 1:12:28
  We we we got crazy bot Christian accounts to come in and and
• 1:12:33
  flood the the comments section. Oh yeah, you got disconnected
• 1:12:37
  'cause you were listening to Jesus.
• 1:12:39
  Yeah, sorry, that's. Holy shit we did it.
• 1:12:42
  That's why on the last live stream of the channel we got the
• 1:12:45
  the crazy Christian, I don't know, whatever the hell.
• 1:12:50
  Are they that bored right now? Are they that bored?
• 1:12:52
  Like I have nothing to do right now?
• 1:12:53
  So this is the shit I'm talking about, man.
• 1:12:56
  This is the kind of engagement that I get.
• 1:13:00
  It's the maniacs. It's it's the crazies, it's the,
• 1:13:02
  it's the people that I don't want anyway.
• 1:13:06
  They had their little. They had their little moment.
• 1:13:09
  And. We'll, we'll clip that.
• 1:13:12
  It's going to be one for the archives.
• 1:13:15
  Yeah, no shit. But.
• 1:13:17
  Anyway. Anyway, anyway, what about that?
• 1:13:22
  What about that? I don't know.
• 1:13:24
  Where in the hell were we? Miraseti Landscapes, music and
• 1:13:30
  space. She.
• 1:13:31
  Did has done all right. So Jesse, who are some artists
• 1:13:37
  that motivate and inspire you? I've been really getting into,
• 1:13:44
  well, I said getting into, but I've been like, I really like
• 1:13:47
  this. The person I mentioned before
• 1:13:49
  this, this Elfric or Elfric's it's Germanic harp music, but
• 1:13:54
  it's it's very traditional. And again, it's not like amp you
• 1:13:57
  up kind of boom, boom, boom, kind of rocking down the road
• 1:14:00
  kind of thing. I've been getting also into
• 1:14:04
  Hinderfiol because they also do a lot of poetic styles of, of,
• 1:14:14
  of music. So Hinderfiol is, has been one
• 1:14:18
  that I really like with regards to like the Norris or Germanic
• 1:14:23
  style of music. But you know, I'm not like I'm
• 1:14:28
  kind of all over the map when it comes to, to music.
• 1:14:30
  It's just whatever happened to feel like, you know, listening
• 1:14:34
  to at the moment more of the, of the, I guess, you know, like
• 1:14:41
  folk music stuff is, is, is speaking to me recently because
• 1:14:46
  I'm, I'm, I'm leveraging music and I'm leveraging melody and
• 1:14:53
  rhythm in different forms to help with like my mental health,
• 1:15:00
  you know what I'm saying? Absolutely.
• 1:15:02
  Yeah, I. Do so like I know music is like
• 1:15:07
  one of those things for a lot of people where like certain bands
• 1:15:10
  or certain projects, you know, they'll say, you know, you saved
• 1:15:13
  my life or or they, you know, impacted a person at a point in
• 1:15:20
  their life that they feel. They help you.
• 1:15:24
  Save them, you know, from either ending their life themselves or
• 1:15:31
  whatever challenges that they were facing.
• 1:15:32
  It was a dark time for them, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:15:35
  It's getting lost in that rabbit hole of self doubt and
• 1:15:39
  hardships. Yeah, like I was want to touch
• 1:15:42
  on now that we're back on track finally.
• 1:15:45
  But again, allow me, if you will, music has always impacted
• 1:15:52
  us and these specifically do. And something I talked about you
• 1:15:56
  or talked about recently the other night was music finds us.
• 1:16:02
  Sometimes there are some songs that either get stuck in her
• 1:16:07
  head for several days. We wonder why.
• 1:16:10
  It's my belief, if you will, it gets stuck in her head for a
• 1:16:16
  reason. I believe it's a message again
• 1:16:20
  going back to Gojira one song that they they did.
• 1:16:27
  I sure do up the gift of guilt and we have type of negative
• 1:16:35
  haunted. Let me go to you know, Hilong
• 1:16:40
  Alpha Hati. If I pronounce that correctly, I
• 1:16:43
  probably didn't. Of other height here, yes.
• 1:16:45
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah. It's just those songs, those
• 1:16:51
  messages come to us. We don't seek them out.
• 1:16:56
  Sometimes they come to us. And when it does, it's very
• 1:17:01
  meaningful and special. Yeah, 100%, man.
• 1:17:05
  Like I was saying before that this Elfrich, Elfrich Elfrich
• 1:17:09
  artist, man. Like apparently they've been
• 1:17:11
  doing stuff since like the late 90s.
• 1:17:13
  Really. Yeah, apparently it's since like
• 1:17:15
  98. And you know, I just discovered
• 1:17:18
  them on band camp. Band cap.
• 1:17:20
  That's the way to go by the. Way Yeah dude, yeah if you want
• 1:17:23
  to support your. Local artist or any artist for
• 1:17:25
  that matter. Yes, especially Mira Seti Band
• 1:17:28
  cap is the way to go without a doubt.
• 1:17:31
  Yeah, I mean anybody that has a. Proceeds goes to them unlike
• 1:17:35
  YouTube or Spotify you know. Oh yeah, you know, band camp
• 1:17:41
  does a thing. It's every Friday of the week.
• 1:17:43
  Band camp Fridays, whatever you buy from an artist, all of that
• 1:17:49
  money goes to them. So band camp doesn't need to
• 1:17:52
  take a cut or a percentage if you buy their music on Friday.
• 1:17:55
  So band camp Fridays are a thing.
• 1:17:57
  They've been a thing, you know, so like when it comes to artists
• 1:18:02
  and, and supporting them, that's one of probably the best ways
• 1:18:05
  that I know of that you can digitally support them because
• 1:18:08
  they're not being taxed on their, their art.
• 1:18:14
  But like, so Elfred was, was a, was a, was an artist that I've
• 1:18:19
  discovered recent, like it came to me in a way.
• 1:18:21
  And it's really interesting that it's, you know, I'm, I'm, I am
• 1:18:25
  pursuing my, you know, I'm pursuing my, my, my ancestral
• 1:18:36
  ways in Germanic Heathenry. And the performer or the artist
• 1:18:45
  that touches most closely to that ancestral way is brought to
• 1:18:53
  me. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:54
  Like it, it's, it's brought into my vision or into my space.
• 1:18:58
  So I get that chance to, to listen to something because we
• 1:19:01
  don't know. We don't know how the, the
• 1:19:03
  ancient Germanic people, you know, how music impacted their
• 1:19:07
  life or, or what it sounded like per SE.
• 1:19:09
  We know that the poems and the poetic meter in which like the
• 1:19:18
  alliterative meter of, of poetry and how it was spoken, We know
• 1:19:23
  that we know that much. But in terms of a melody or
• 1:19:26
  anything that was brought to it, we can, we, we have to
• 1:19:27
  reconstruct it. So, but like what we can
• 1:19:31
  reconstruct and, and come as close as what we think it might
• 1:19:34
  sound like. When, when, when people do stuff
• 1:19:36
  like that, like it, it touches my heart.
• 1:19:39
  You know what I mean? It touches a very deep and
• 1:19:41
  primal portion of my spirit to connect in that way 'cause I'm
• 1:19:47
  like this, this might be very close to what my ancient
• 1:19:52
  ancestors would have heard if given the chance to hear it.
• 1:19:56
  You know what I mean? Nothing, nothing overproduced.
• 1:19:59
  No, you know, no, not mixed and mastered to to the high heavens
• 1:20:03
  or whatever. Just just raw, raw drums.
• 1:20:08
  You don't have to be in key. You don't have to, you know,
• 1:20:11
  sound like the perfect performer, the perfect, you
• 1:20:15
  know, whatever. It's just, it's from the heart,
• 1:20:18
  it's from where you're from. And, and, and that those songs,
• 1:20:24
  those those sounds that echo from those places is, is what
• 1:20:30
  really has been kind of brought to me recently.
• 1:20:35
  And with that said, to off topic and on topic with all your great
• 1:20:43
  understanding and very patient viewers.
• 1:20:46
  Thanks in advance. By the way, I go back to a video
• 1:20:52
  I've shared and told you about many times, but going back to a
• 1:20:56
  guy, I keep saying this term, point of origins.
• 1:20:59
  We go back to when I first discovered you on YouTube, how
• 1:21:04
  to perform a basic hidden ritual.
• 1:21:07
  It's funny in a weird way because like, yes, the audio was
• 1:21:10
  outrageous and all about jazz, but the message?
• 1:21:18
  Yeah, I wasn't out, you know, I was definitely learning a lot at
• 1:21:20
  that time and and doing the best that I could with what I had
• 1:21:23
  available to me. But when I look back on it, I'm
• 1:21:26
  like. Rough.
• 1:21:31
  I'll be outside the spectrum there.
• 1:21:33
  I'm like, yes, I was too. I'll start trying to figure
• 1:21:37
  things out where to go from here, but you and not only
• 1:21:41
  provide my own personal experience for everyone here
• 1:21:45
  who's watching. I'd love to know down in the
• 1:21:48
  comments section. When did you find Jesse's
• 1:21:52
  channel? Any video in particular?
• 1:21:56
  Please let us know. I'm glad to hear it again, you
• 1:21:58
  know? Yeah, that's my question is
• 1:22:00
  yeah, how to perform a basic heathen ritual.
• 1:22:03
  But again, that's off topic, but that's going to throw that to
• 1:22:06
  the ring here and get, you know, honor and respect and praise to
• 1:22:10
  you well. I appreciate it, man.
• 1:22:13
  But yeah, that's the kind of a fun thing.
• 1:22:15
  I mean, we, there's, there's currently we got 7 live viewers
• 1:22:18
  spread across two different platforms.
• 1:22:19
  So not a whole lot. But if you are watching and you
• 1:22:23
  want to just drop a comment, you know, where did you first
• 1:22:26
  discover Midgard musings, I guess, you know, feel free to to
• 1:22:30
  chime in if you want to. Patrick found the video that I
• 1:22:35
  posted. Gosh, it was, I mean.
• 1:22:40
  I could pick it up, actually 20. 20 Probably 2019.
• 1:22:44
  Yeah, I'm more than Confidence 2020.
• 1:22:46
  Give me a second. I'll look up my library here.
• 1:22:49
  It was like how to perform a basic heathen ritual and I, I
• 1:22:52
  did like a re. I did I I re.
• 1:22:53
  Six years ago, it was six years ago, so yeah. 2019-2020, 2019,
• 1:22:57
  yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:00
  And that's a long time. You know, I mean, like for
• 1:23:02
  people that have either just now discovering this, then that may
• 1:23:06
  not know, like I've been doing this for a hot minute and I'm
• 1:23:13
  I'm going to continue doing what I'm going to do.
• 1:23:16
  But it's it's not going to be in the same fashion as I've been
• 1:23:20
  doing it because times change and people have to change.
• 1:23:22
  And you're going to see you're going to see more of what I'm
• 1:23:26
  talking about with regards to this on November 1st.
• 1:23:30
  I have a video that I'm going to upload on November 1st about
• 1:23:33
  this. Chris Miller found me because
• 1:23:37
  there was a crossover with Eric Shervin.
• 1:23:40
  Eric Word Weaver Shervin another great influencer in.
• 1:23:45
  In the great guy, you know. And, and honestly, I don't think
• 1:23:50
  I would have pursued Midgard musings to the extent that I had
• 1:23:54
  or have, had it not been for Eric.
• 1:23:59
  I, I looked up to Eric and I still do, you know, I, I still
• 1:24:02
  admire his contributions to online Heathenry because that's
• 1:24:08
  the extent of which I know him. I do have his number.
• 1:24:12
  And, and like we've connected, we've talked offline very
• 1:24:15
  extensively, very, very much. But he's a good, he's a good
• 1:24:18
  man. He's a good heathen.
• 1:24:21
  And it's interesting that, you know, Chris says that, you know,
• 1:24:24
  my content and his, you know, meaning Eric's, that there was a
• 1:24:30
  crossover there. So algorithmically our content
• 1:24:34
  kind of got shared to the same audience.
• 1:24:39
  And that that that's something special for me to think about.
• 1:24:42
  You know, 'cause somebody who I had looked up to and admired and
• 1:24:45
  still do to this day that that there was a, a crossover 'cause
• 1:24:54
  there's a lot out here, folks. I'll just say real quick.
• 1:24:57
  You know, when, when, when you watch what I have to say on, on
• 1:25:02
  the first on November 1st, which is Saturday.
• 1:25:09
  There's a lot out here. There's a lot out here on the
• 1:25:11
  Internet, and there's a lot out outside of the Internet and.
• 1:25:22
  It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a space to explore.
• 1:25:27
  And I don't want people to feel restricted in their efforts to
• 1:25:33
  explore based off of something that I've ever said or what
• 1:25:38
  anybody else has ever said. You know, this is the last live
• 1:25:42
  broadcast that I can see happening in the foreseeable
• 1:25:46
  future. So if the last thing that I say
• 1:25:48
  during a live broadcast is to remind you folks to not let what
• 1:25:55
  people on the Internet say deter you from your own exploration,
• 1:26:03
  go and wander. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:05
  Go and go and figure it out for yourself.
• 1:26:08
  Don't let what I say, don't take what I say.
• 1:26:10
  Or anybody else for that matter. Don't take what anybody else
• 1:26:12
  says as as a reason to not pursue your own path.
• 1:26:19
  Figure it out for yourself. We're in a time and we're in a,
• 1:26:24
  we're in a state of existence for people that that needs to
• 1:26:27
  happen. You got to figure it out for
• 1:26:29
  yourself. And if people are out here being
• 1:26:32
  too influential and being they have too strong of a voice and
• 1:26:36
  they're quenching that spirit in others to pursue knowledge and
• 1:26:42
  to find things you don't, don't let that happen.
• 1:26:49
  People. You know, this is live right
• 1:26:52
  now. And I'm telling you, don't let
• 1:26:54
  what I say and what anybody else says stop you from pursuing
• 1:26:57
  knowledge and, and figuring it out for yourself, even if it
• 1:27:01
  hurts in the process, even if you get stung, even if you get
• 1:27:03
  burned, even if it sucks, learn something from it.
• 1:27:07
  Don't. Don't let what I say what what
• 1:27:10
  anybody else says to Terry stops me that.
• 1:27:13
  Yeah. And you know, just, I'm really
• 1:27:16
  heavily came to this point too, because we not we, we, we may
• 1:27:22
  not be on the same boat here. We're on the same ocean.
• 1:27:29
  We're sailing. Very key in the.
• 1:27:31
  Same direction, you know, and again, like I will share too
• 1:27:37
  much from this point, but I'm right there with you.
• 1:27:42
  Sometimes we do get hung up over reactions, participation, and
• 1:27:52
  it's my humble opinion that we're doing ourselves a huge
• 1:27:57
  disservice and focusing on that. Now, before I continue, our
• 1:28:03
  supporters, our friends, our brothers, our lovers and
• 1:28:08
  supporters, again, we love you, we appreciate you, but again,
• 1:28:15
  it's our own journey that we're sharing.
• 1:28:19
  You may like it, you may agree with it, you may not.
• 1:28:22
  If you don't agree with what I say or Jesse says, that's fine
• 1:28:27
  and dandy. That's the wonderful thing about
• 1:28:30
  life. We have our own opinions.
• 1:28:34
  Besides the Bible thumpers who made their way in here, I I'm
• 1:28:39
  not going. To go, that was wild.
• 1:28:42
  It was wild. I think Chris was here to watch
• 1:28:45
  all that because I mean, there's, there's been seven
• 1:28:47
  people that have been that have been like staying by and maybe
• 1:28:50
  they're still out there, but I blocked them from from
• 1:28:52
  commenting any further. So they're so bored I pity them.
• 1:28:56
  They're just, they're just, they're just doing in their own
• 1:28:59
  will. They're in their mama's
• 1:29:01
  basement, you know, waiting for that next batch of cookies be
• 1:29:05
  arrived with their little cold glass of milk.
• 1:29:08
  You know I'm just fucking sane after just.
• 1:29:10
  Maybe. They're nowhere on our level.
• 1:29:12
  Maybe a fresh patch of Oreos, Patrick.
• 1:29:15
  Oh you motherf God damn it. You know what?
• 1:29:20
  No regrets. Yeah, man, this has been a lot
• 1:29:25
  of fun, dude. You know, we've talked a lot
• 1:29:28
  about different things, but you know, music being the central
• 1:29:32
  voice or the central sound that resonates.
• 1:29:35
  I can't think of a better way to kind of culminate these live
• 1:29:43
  streams, at least for the foreseeable future.
• 1:29:46
  Then by talking about a language that is universal, you don't
• 1:29:52
  have to believe the same cultural, you know, religious,
• 1:29:59
  whatever spiritual path. Then then, then that what I do,
• 1:30:04
  what Patrick does or whatever. This is a heathen podcast,
• 1:30:08
  right? It is, it is that.
• 1:30:10
  But the central message right is, is find your own way.
• 1:30:14
  If you happen to come across this because of an algorithm,
• 1:30:21
  I'm not trying to not trying to make people connect to something
• 1:30:25
  that they don't feel connected to, but music, that rhythm, that
• 1:30:31
  sound that is, you know, the heartbeat of our shared mother.
• 1:30:37
  You know what I mean? That is this, that is the that
• 1:30:39
  is the voice and that is the sound of our shared birth giver.
• 1:30:45
  We, we come from the same source and whatever label you want to
• 1:30:48
  put to it, that it that that's limiting there.
• 1:30:52
  There's something deeper and there's something greater beyond
• 1:30:54
  that. Find that for yourself, whatever
• 1:30:57
  it might be, whatever that sounds like, whatever that looks
• 1:30:59
  like, and music can help guide you there the.
• 1:31:04
  Very act, the very act of creation, of music, and really
• 1:31:09
  sit there and think about it is mind bending.
• 1:31:13
  How it started, how music really started.
• 1:31:16
  No one can really say it, fortunately, but then going from
• 1:31:22
  that point to where we are today, it's just again, mind
• 1:31:28
  bending. All the genres, all the
• 1:31:31
  creations. I mean, again, I love music in
• 1:31:37
  its entirety. We love music in its entirety.
• 1:31:41
  There's some genres that I refuse to listen to, like rap,
• 1:31:44
  pop, country, hit or miss, what have you.
• 1:31:49
  But again, it's that expression. We may not relate to it, but we
• 1:31:55
  can at least appreciate it. Right.
• 1:31:59
  Like I can't really hate any can't really hate any gyros, but
• 1:32:04
  there's some songs that I can't stand.
• 1:32:06
  But again, music as a whole, besides fire is one of our most
• 1:32:14
  special gifts we've been given. And like fire, we I like to
• 1:32:19
  believe creative music. And again, going back to what
• 1:32:23
  we're saying earlier is like high along like being as
• 1:32:28
  Americans or even the UK or what have you.
• 1:32:32
  We hear songs even outside of our country.
• 1:32:35
  Listen to us as Americans. It goes both ways.
• 1:32:39
  Like we hear music as music. We hear that message without
• 1:32:44
  even understand the lyrics. I just I find that truly healing
• 1:32:48
  and magic in itself, truly this absolutely outstanding.
• 1:32:53
  I mean, I could talk about it for hours and hours, but just
• 1:32:56
  like talking about this topic again, it's just really a really
• 1:33:03
  great topic to go on. And before we get off here
• 1:33:07
  again, Jesse, I've sent you the videos I did earlier this
• 1:33:10
  evening. But I'm very honored and very
• 1:33:15
  happy to be part of these podcasts for better and for
• 1:33:21
  worse. You know, like despite tonight's
• 1:33:24
  fuck re with my hearing situation with my Airpods and
• 1:33:29
  hearing aid, I thank you and everyone watching and who has
• 1:33:34
  watched for same time, setting you aside the time to listen to
• 1:33:40
  us and most importantly, my brother Jesse.
• 1:33:44
  John, Adam, thank you guys very much for joining us.
• 1:33:48
  I mean, enough said as John says, you're dead.
• 1:33:53
  The damn war just showed up. Exactly, man.
• 1:33:57
  It's just, you know, that's what it's all about.
• 1:33:59
  It's just the message to our experience and our journey and
• 1:34:03
  that's what music will always be, part of our journey.
• 1:34:09
  Well said, man. You know, I just have to give
• 1:34:11
  you props too, because, you know, you were here facing a
• 1:34:15
  challenge, facing difficulties with, you know, external
• 1:34:19
  challenges. You could have, you could have
• 1:34:22
  bailed. You know, that was a choice.
• 1:34:24
  You, you could have been like, I'm done, I'm out.
• 1:34:26
  And then, but you didn't, you stuck through it.
• 1:34:28
  We stuck through it. We, we work through it together
• 1:34:30
  and people get to see it in real time.
• 1:34:33
  This is, you know, again, a great way to kind of end the the
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  live broadcast for the foreseeable future is you got to
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  see something happen in real time between two real people who
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  have spent real time together and who have established a
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  relationship with one another that I'm not going to give up on
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  this man. I'm going to be here with him to
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  see it through and he's going to be here to see it through with
• 1:34:55
  me because we share in that kinship relationship.
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  He's not going to bail on me. I'm not going to bail on him.
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  We're going to see it through and it's going to be what it's
• 1:35:04
  going to be. If you didn't watch it or you
• 1:35:06
  didn't listen through it, whatever, that's cool.
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  That's on you. But I'm not going to let this
• 1:35:11
  man tread water. I'm going to tread water right
• 1:35:15
  there beside him. I want to do what I can to see
• 1:35:18
  him through it. You know what I mean?
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  And and if any, if you take anything away from all of this
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  tonight, take take that away. So we've got just a quick
• 1:35:27
  comment here. Corey Thomas says, looks like I
• 1:35:30
  missed a lot was on the road from seeing my mother-in-law in
• 1:35:33
  hospital on Hospice. Corey Thomas, let me just share
• 1:35:38
  my condolences for you on that and the fact that you popped in.
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  I'm going through something similar.
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  And I, I just want to let you know that you know, I'm, I'm,
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  I'm sorry that you're going through that.
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  That's tough. And thank you for just by
• 1:35:53
  stopping by, just thank you for taking that time out of your
• 1:35:55
  journey out of this hardship that you're going through.
• 1:35:58
  Sorry, Jesse. Just thank you for taking the
• 1:36:00
  time to say that that's you can also rewatch this later on.
• 1:36:06
  Yeah, exactly. You can rewatch this because
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  it's not going anywhere. Thank you.
• 1:36:10
  And I'm sorry, Dina. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And Dina says too. I love that we got to see the
• 1:36:16
  determination and bond that you share.
• 1:36:21
  You know, guys and gals out here like this is it's it's real.
• 1:36:24
  This isn't we, we don't script these things.
• 1:36:27
  It's live. It's happening.
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  I'm not going to, you know, I'm not some big production that's
• 1:36:31
  going to cut any of this shit out.
• 1:36:33
  You you saw it. You saw it here 1st.
• 1:36:36
  And if anything that you get to take away from this is, is that.
• 1:36:46
  That's what real is it, it, it's, it's, it's not letting
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  your your kin. It's not letting your people
• 1:36:54
  fall while you're able to. If they, if they stumble, you're
• 1:36:59
  there to see them through it. He had to go through what he had
• 1:37:04
  to go through. I couldn't fix his technical
• 1:37:06
  issues, but damn it, I'm not going to just be like, well.
• 1:37:09
  Alright, Patrick, you drop. Aside, carry on with the show,
• 1:37:12
  right, the show. But guess what this is this is
• 1:37:14
  part of the show. So it's reality.
• 1:37:17
  It's it's an example I think of something that touches on a
• 1:37:21
  deeper level. So I don't want to beat the
• 1:37:23
  horse to death with it. You, you, you squat, you hear
• 1:37:27
  it. Thank you for acknowledging it,
• 1:37:29
  Dina. Thank you, Corey, for coming by
• 1:37:31
  and again, my, my sympathies, my condolences go to you.
• 1:37:36
  Please be there with your people.
• 1:37:41
  This is a, a moment in time where they need you more than
• 1:37:46
  than we do here. So be there with them and, and
• 1:37:50
  be there in love and be there in support.
• 1:37:53
  And that's, that's I guess a good message.
• 1:37:55
  I want to leave people with myself because I don't know when
• 1:37:59
  or if these live broadcasts on this platform will continue.
• 1:38:02
  It's not going to happen for the foreseeable future.
• 1:38:04
  So for you though, for the, you know, you folks that were here,
• 1:38:09
  what a great way to showcase who I am, what I represent, what I
• 1:38:18
  mean, what I say online, what I've said online, the things
• 1:38:21
  that I've said, things that have been criticized for.
• 1:38:27
  I'm not just talk, you know what I mean?
• 1:38:31
  And, and on that note, I'll just, I'll show.
• 1:38:33
  Let's see. We got Dina that says thank you
• 1:38:37
  for the inspiration tonight. This was an incredibly timely
• 1:38:41
  topic. Music is a huge part of my
• 1:38:44
  ritual. My cat passed this morning and
• 1:38:49
  I've been mentally preparing to sing for her tonight.
• 1:38:53
  Your conversation has helped. It's a tough time for many of us
• 1:38:58
  for various reasons it seems, and I'm sending my love to you
• 1:39:03
  all. I'm so sorry for lost your cat.
• 1:39:09
  Anyone who knows me? Yeah, man.
• 1:39:13
  My friend, at some point tonight, my friend, I will let a
• 1:39:19
  candle if you'll allow me. But thank you and I'm so sorry
• 1:39:23
  for your loss. It's heavy times, people.
• 1:39:28
  Yeah, Dina, for you being here just to share that much and to
• 1:39:30
  write that all out. Thank you.
• 1:39:33
  And again, my condolences as well.
• 1:39:36
  And I don't want to I don't want to take any more time from
• 1:39:39
  people for that. So this is going to be us
• 1:39:43
  signing off for the night. Let us let us take our time to,
• 1:39:47
  to heal, to integrate and to work through all these things.
• 1:39:55
  Thank you, Patch. It's just so Dina says, thank
• 1:39:57
  you so much. I would love it if you lit a
• 1:39:59
  candle. And yes, that, that, that, that
• 1:40:04
  that's a thing. And we will in solidarity and in
• 1:40:08
  support. And I thank you all, everybody,
• 1:40:12
  whether you've commented or not, your, your support, your
• 1:40:16
  presence, your energy, your love.
• 1:40:21
  It's it does not go unnoticed. You matter, OK?
• 1:40:27
  We've talked a lot about various things that touch our lives in
• 1:40:30
  various ways. You matter.
• 1:40:37
  And of course and. I thank you for and I thank you
• 1:40:39
  for being here and thank you Patrick as well for being here.
• 1:40:41
  So I'm going to shut up and I'm going to let Patrick say his
• 1:40:44
  parting words before we we wrap this whole thing up.
• 1:40:49
  So, Patrick, what would you like to to leave?
• 1:40:51
  The people with like I mentioned before, I'm sorry for the
• 1:40:55
  interruptions and shenanigans that go with my nature if you
• 1:40:58
  will, but to anyone who's watching is who's watching and
• 1:41:05
  will watch in the future, thank you for supporting this man.
• 1:41:14
  Again, what happened since as a happy accident.
• 1:41:20
  Again, going back to my point, how to perform basic hidden
• 1:41:24
  ritual. From that point on, him and I
• 1:41:29
  have established something magnificent and I hope to
• 1:41:34
  inspire you guys as well to do the same.
• 1:41:39
  Not by that very nature, but just by being yourselves,
• 1:41:43
  engaging, loving, supporting, sitting with us, being with us,
• 1:41:50
  much like music, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:41:53
  But again, it's been a tremendous honor, Jesse, being
• 1:41:58
  part of your podcast, the times that we have.
• 1:42:01
  And aside from that, our chats and private and company shared a
• 1:42:08
  few times. Just thank everybody for all
• 1:42:12
  that you do. And Jesse, you being you.
• 1:42:16
  I'm an amazing man that you are and continue to be.
• 1:42:23
  Thank you bro. Say frosty and shine on my
• 1:42:25
  friends. Absolutely everyone.
• 1:42:29
  So thank you all for being here on this live stream tonight.
• 1:42:33
  You will be able to catch me on the random Heathen Ramblings
• 1:42:36
  podcast wherever you've catched it.
• 1:42:39
  I want to say caught it wherever you've caught it before.
• 1:42:42
  So the audio platformspatreon.com, you see it
• 1:42:45
  scrolling down here on the bottom.
• 1:42:47
  If you want to watch more things like this, that's going to be
• 1:42:51
  the place to do it. patreon.com/midgard Musings when
• 1:42:54
  you join at the Carl tier, it is a $1.00 pledge.
• 1:42:57
  You're under no obligation to renew it.
• 1:43:00
  It is a pledge of support. It's not a fee that you pay to
• 1:43:03
  access anything. It is your choice.
• 1:43:05
  It is your voluntary choice to show your support in this way.
• 1:43:10
  I have an announcement coming out on Saturday, November 1st at
• 1:43:13
  12:00 PM Central Time, 1:00 PM Eastern, that explains a little
• 1:43:20
  bit more on the reasons of things going in this way, but no
• 1:43:26
  more live streams for the foreseeable future.
• 1:43:30
  The podcast will continue on in a way that is meant to be done
• 1:43:35
  in the right way, my right way. Thank you for your support.
• 1:43:39
  Thank you for being here. Thank you, Patrick, again for
• 1:43:42
  being my guest on this auspicious sign off of of our
• 1:43:47
  live broadcast. We might see you all again in
• 1:43:50
  this way, but until we see each other again, and Patrick, don't
• 1:43:54
  you go anywhere. We'll talk a little bit offline,
• 1:43:59
  but until we talk to each other again, folks, thank you for your
• 1:44:02
  support. May the gods continue to notice
• 1:44:05
  you and may your ancestors smile upon you.
• 1:44:10
  Good night.