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BlackJack and Raybon Talk NBA, NFL Futures, and NHL Playoffs · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the favorite IV your house, Chad, Bill Johnny
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  Speaker 1: this is the favorite time black Jack. Fletcher joined as
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  Speaker 1: Chad Moman said, by the one and only Christopher Raybon.
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: Chris name name intro Christopher Alicious Raybon. It's not even
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that the ladies will like it even more
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  Speaker 1: that I have a girlfriend. Listen to this song I
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  Speaker 1: love my girlfriend. Um all right, so um yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's jump in and talk about some sports, right uh
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  Speaker 1: NBA Chrissy. Big news of the day. Kevin Durant uh
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  Speaker 1: injured last night. The Warriors are saying it's a half strain.
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  Speaker 1: He's supposed to have an m R I today look
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  Speaker 1: the hell of a lot like an achilles injury. To me,
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  Speaker 1: it looked ugly. I mean, anytime you see a guy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hopping around and you know he doesn't he
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  Speaker 1: kind of worry because those are usually the arious. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the point sprayer because Houston
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  Speaker 1: is a seven and a half point favorite, and that
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  Speaker 1: line is skyrocketing. Opened to five and a half yea.
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  Speaker 1: And what's crazy is the last time the Warriors were
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  Speaker 1: in Houston. I think it opened at Houston minus one,
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  Speaker 1: quoted at Golden State minus one. So they're essentially saying,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the market is essentially saying that that Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Durants worth like eight eight and a half points? Is
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  Speaker 1: he not not eight and a half not on that team.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, but to be fair, maybe maybe with
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  Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook he's worth. Steph Curry has played like crap
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  Speaker 1: in this series. I mean he's been awful. He has
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  Speaker 1: three or thirteen, four or fourteen from three. I mean
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  Speaker 1: he has not been good since he dislocated his finger. Trash. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean what's looks like j R. Smith? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: But I mean eight No, no, no, no players areth
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  Speaker 1: eight points, no players worth that any point? No player No,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not eight points. That's what you're you're getting close to.
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  Speaker 1: That's eight per That's almost like it's seven eight percent
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  Speaker 1: of your your total teams point like no, no, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe four or five I would give Katie fine,
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  Speaker 1: but eight, I think how can you not bet Golden
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  Speaker 1: State in that spot? Do you think we see Durant
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  Speaker 1: again in this series? No? Does Houston win Game six? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think so? Yeah? I mean I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think the expectation was it. Did you not expect
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  Speaker 1: the seven game series from the start? No? I expected
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  Speaker 1: a five game series. Houston are gold State? Golden State?
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  Speaker 1: Houston stinks? No, they don't. I mean Houston had everything
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  Speaker 1: go their way in games one and two, they made
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  Speaker 1: twice the amount of threes, they shot more free throws
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  Speaker 1: on the road, their field goal percentage was higher, and
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  Speaker 1: they still lost both games. Like everything went in their
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  Speaker 1: favor and they still couldn't win. Even last night, Durant
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: goes down and they still I mean, they still lose
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  Speaker 1: that game. Like, I don't, I don't know the Rockets.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're frauds. You know, how many shots did
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  Speaker 1: you take in that game? None? Right, because me, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't on the floor, and James Harden took about the
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  Speaker 1: same amount and in the last eight minutes, though James
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  Speaker 1: Harden annually disappears in the playoffs. So what makes you
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  Speaker 1: think it's not gonna happen again. Well, so to me,
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  Speaker 1: Houston is a team point no, no, no, But let's listen.
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  Speaker 1: Listen used to as a team that the same way
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  Speaker 1: they could kind of perplexing ly go cold, they could
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  Speaker 1: also get just as hot, because that's just how they play.
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  Speaker 1: They rely on like high variance outcomes the three ball,
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  Speaker 1: like by not taking like any you know, really they're
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  Speaker 1: they're only taking threes and they're trying to get to
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  Speaker 1: the whole. They just have such a high variant. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: range of outcomes that the same way they could go
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  Speaker 1: cold against Utah for for three games or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they could get hot for three games. Again,
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  Speaker 1: the best team in the league. So I wouldn't rule
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  Speaker 1: him out. I expected it to go seven the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: And if Houston, if this is really you know, Darryl
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  Speaker 1: Morey and his Mori Bull, they need to win game
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  Speaker 1: six and then they need to go into Golden and
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  Speaker 1: State improved. Everybody that did that. We that they should
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  Speaker 1: have been taken seriously this whole time as title contenders.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a good team, you gotta win on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Can't tell you my theory. I think everyone in the
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  Speaker 1: Golden State locker room hates Kevin Durant. I think they
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  Speaker 1: know he's leaving. I think they don't care for his attitude.
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  Speaker 1: I think they think to themselves, we want a title
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  Speaker 1: without him. Now. He comes here, takes all the credit
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  Speaker 1: for these last two rings, and he's walking out the
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  Speaker 1: door going to New York in a few months. I
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  Speaker 1: think they come out and they bring the pain in
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  Speaker 1: Game six. I think the Warriors reign threes on them
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  Speaker 1: like they've never seen before, and Golden State wins Game
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  Speaker 1: six by thirty two. Do you think Kevin Durant, who
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  Speaker 1: do you think has the largest spread between how valuable
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: he is and how much he's actually liked by his teammates.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Kevin Durant takes that that crown? Or
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  Speaker 1: do you think of somebody else in the league? But
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, for example on the Cat and the Calves team,
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  Speaker 1: probably was Durant. Kyrie Irving is not liked by his team,
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  Speaker 1: but Durant is obviously far better. So the chasm is
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  Speaker 1: bigger there. League doesn't even have to be somebody still
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  Speaker 1: in the playoff. They could have already been eliminated, could
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  Speaker 1: be l Embiid. Speaking of which, let's transition. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: what we call a segue to the Sixers and Raptors
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  Speaker 1: Game six tonight. Listen, I have been all in on
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  Speaker 1: the seventies Sixers. I am holding a future ticket for
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  Speaker 1: them to win the NBA Finals because in my mind
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  Speaker 1: they have the best starting five in the NBA. Yes said,
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  Speaker 1: I will continue to say it. However, However, Joel Embiid
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  Speaker 1: stinks he is soft. He is soft is tissue paper,
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  Speaker 1: Chris he is He's one ply toilet paper. That's what
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  Speaker 1: Joel Embiid is. Okay, the guy's got a tummy ache
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  Speaker 1: and he plays like crap. He comes walking into the
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  Speaker 1: arena for Game five. Everyone knew when you saw the
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: footage of him walking into the arena, this dude had
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  Speaker 1: nothing nothing. It's a joke. He's a talented, generational type player.
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  Speaker 1: But the guy seemingly just has no desire, no fortitude.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how Jimmy Butler puts up with him.
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  Speaker 1: I just gotta tell me within any you say he
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  Speaker 1: has they have the best starting five. I mean, when
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: you're healthy, black Jack, centers are shooting threes. When your
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: point guard can't even shoot from the free throw line,
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: you are you do not have your automatically shot three. Oh,
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: Draymond Green shot. Raymond Green is not a center. Jamond
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  Speaker 1: Green could shoot three? Is better than Ben Simmons can
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  Speaker 1: shoot free throws. That's not the point. He's not. It's
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  Speaker 1: not not true though. Well Ben Simmons can rebound just
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  Speaker 1: as Yeah. That that that's really helpful when you're when
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  Speaker 1: you're losing six starting lineups. Talk to me about the
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  Speaker 1: Sixers and Raptors here game six tonight, do we see
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  Speaker 1: a game seven Sixers are at home. Home favorites are
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  Speaker 1: I mean home wonder excuse me? Are just not good
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  Speaker 1: bets in waiting the playoffs since oh five, I believe
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: it's something like, uh, they're covering at about rate or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. UM, go to actually network dot com
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  Speaker 1: get the actual numbers. I was too lazy. But this
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  Speaker 1: isn't a number show. This is exactly I know that
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  Speaker 1: you four numbers. So I'm just I'm just doing this
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  Speaker 1: all off you. So do you think Toronto gets to win? No? Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen Kauai Lenard lately? He's better than the
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  Speaker 1: entire Sixers starting five that you love so much. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the guy, the guy that san Antonio used to have.
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  Speaker 1: That that the team that's not David Robinson. Um, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so that means you've got Raptors Bucks in the Eastern
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  Speaker 1: Conference finals. Who comes out, who comes out, who wins?
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  Speaker 1: Who comes at least? I would say, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think I would go to Raptors. I think Kauai is
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  Speaker 1: a machine. I think I think uh, I think that
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  Speaker 1: team got a lot smarter when they hired Nick Nurse
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  Speaker 1: to be their head coach and uh, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: replace Dwayne Kraacey Tee and I think that makes all
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  Speaker 1: the difference sometimes. You know, there's not a big edge
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  Speaker 1: sometimes between between teams. You know, the Bucks are amazing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they have nice they have they have a
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  Speaker 1: good supporting cast around him. Uh, there's nothing to knock
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  Speaker 1: about them. But Toronto is kind of similar. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they have a pretty solid all around team and they're
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  Speaker 1: led by a superstar who obviously can turn it up
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs and you know what I mean, and
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  Speaker 1: he has that, he has that championship experience already. So
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's go to Ronto. They're gonna they're
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be I like you, I like where you're coming
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  Speaker 1: from with this. I like Toronto. Um don't you like Philly? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if they were to beat Philly Chris, which
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: is sound, should they beat them, I would take Toronto
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: and the plus flip flop man. I don't know. Remember
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: that guy John Kerry, Yeah, the guy who claimed you
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  Speaker 1: like fun in Vietnam and he was he was reporting
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  Speaker 1: for duties. He had he had that one good sound
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  Speaker 1: bite and at the convention. Yeah, that was a mistake. Yeah, lesson,
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: boys and girls, don't mess with Carl rove bang bang. Um.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: All right, so the Nuggets and Blazers out West. I mean,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: Nuggets are winning that series, right. I have to apologize
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  Speaker 1: because I when when when the Nuggets were playing the
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  Speaker 1: in the first round against the Spurs, I wrote up
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: that I thought the Spurs were a good bet to
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  Speaker 1: win that series, and uh, that was that. I apologize
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: for that. Um, But Nicola Yoki is fucking amazing. Real deal.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: If that dude's in New York, l A, Boston, Chicago
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: is an MPP gang. I don't know how many people
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: out there listening to our Knicks fans, but I know,
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a Knicks fan. I'm from New York,
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: and I remember there was very early in Kitch his career.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: I remember watching a Nuggets game because I mean, when
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: you play DFS, you tend to stay up and watch
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: the late games because you have nothing better to do.
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  Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh my god, this dude
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  Speaker 1: is better than Chris Stops. Like everyone thinks that we
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: have the predominant big white guy had you know, had
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: the predominant you know, big white dude in the NBA.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: But in reality, like this dude Yoki is a problem.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: Let me throw some out of you Porzingis or Nurkic. Yeah,
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: there you go, give me, give me n He's a bang.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: I always love Nurkics too. Let's keep talking white NBA players.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: JJ Reddick not a member of the best starting five
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  Speaker 1: in the league. You have to go there. I mean,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: you're a foot fall and I just JJ Redick for
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: two years or Grayson Allen for the rest of his career.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Grayson Now is the truth? Man? Have you seen you
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: know this dude at the end of the year. I
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: mean he was Grason Allen late. Reason Allen is what
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: if the if the Jazz had played Grayson Allen over
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: some of them bums they played, they might have they
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: might have had a better chance against Houston. All Right, Alright,
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  Speaker 1: So neither one of these teams has a shot against
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: Golden State, right, neither one. I mean kicked the ship
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  Speaker 1: out of Denver this year. I mean, oh, you're talking
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: about the Western Yahnuggets played Golden State roles, I would think,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing we're going to say worry
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  Speaker 1: about is that they have these Yeah, but they just
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: don't care. And if they if they do that at
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: home and they blow a home game, what was ever
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven and four at home in their home court. Yeah,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: but the Warriors just destroyed them this year. Yeah, But
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: I mean the playoffs are a whole different game. And honestly,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Denver's regular season team was very different from what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing now. I mean, for the for for one, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't play their their starts nearly as many minutes, and
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: they didn't have the same rotations. So I hesitate to
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: um kind of use that as a one to one comparison.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Denver is a different team. And I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a big Denver fan. I picked him to
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: get to bounce in the first round. But I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't count them out if because Golden State
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  Speaker 1: is known to blow to stop caring if they blow
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  Speaker 1: a home game, especially if Kevin Duran is out for
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: an extended period. Let's say he's let's say he doesn't
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: come back for that. For that then for whatever series
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  Speaker 1: you know that the conference finals, and they blow a
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  Speaker 1: game at home, and now you have to beat Denver
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  Speaker 1: at home in one of three games. That's not that's
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: not a guarantee. I mean, again, this team went thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven and four. I believe it was at home. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would guess the value would be on
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  Speaker 1: Denver if we're if the odds open and we see
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  Speaker 1: the odds and they come out, and I would I
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  Speaker 1: would think that the bet, the smart money would be
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  Speaker 1: to be to bed Denver. I would just think, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I would disagree because I think it's basically lighting your
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  Speaker 1: money on fire. I don't know about that. I mean,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the Warriors happened, the Warriors are. If you're
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: making a bet based on ship happens, you probably shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: make the bet that explains your record in the app
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  Speaker 1: it does. I mean, I mean, alright, remember remember when
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: the Warriors lost to the Calves, Kevin Love. It was
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: defending Stephen Curry on what turned out to be the
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: keep playing the game. So don't tell me that you
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: know anything can't happen in NBA play. So your your philosophy.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: As the Cavaliers were so historically bad outside of Lebron
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  Speaker 1: James that we don't really know how good the Warriors
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  Speaker 1: are now. I just wanted to bring it back to
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  Speaker 1: the two big white guys doing doing good things. Yeah,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: let's keep talking white guys. Um, alright, So Let's let's
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: move past the finals into my favorite part of the
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: NBA season, which is the off season. A lot of
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: free agents out there, Chrissie, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Kemba Walker, got Zion Williamson and John Morant and the draft.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: How how does all this shakeout start with Kemba Walker?
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, b X stand up Kemba Walker all day. Um,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: I think that Kemba I mean how how how good
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: do you think Kemba is compared to Kyrie? Let me
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: ask you this question. We're talking about this in the
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  Speaker 1: office to day. You're a Knicks fan. I'm a Knicks fan.
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  Speaker 1: Would you rather have Durant and Kyrie Durant and Kemba
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  Speaker 1: Durant Kemball? That's what every one of us said, because
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: every single one. That's just me being biased because I'm
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: from the b X. I don't know if that's take
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  Speaker 1: that out of it. Look at them as players. Are
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you telling me you wouldn't. I think Kemba Walker is
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: a better fit. I think Kyrie is a better player.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I think that I think I want to talk soft.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: As Matt Ford described him, He's precious Kyrie is precious
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: all right. So here's the thing, and we talked about
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: this affair. Every only one team can win a championship,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: right in any given year? Those are the rules? Yeah, right?
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  Speaker 1: So where do we draw the line between you know
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  Speaker 1: what a player before we let a player off the hook? Like,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: what is Kyrie's expectation? Does he have to get to
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the finals every year for us to say, okay, he
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: had a successful season? Is that the conference finals? Like?
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: What is it with Kyrie? Because at the end of
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the day, I mean, Golden State's probably gonna be in
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the finals, and you know there's only gonna be one
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  Speaker 1: team in EASN. Does Kyrie have to be in the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: finals for his season to be considered success? Because I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: think we've learned Kyrie Irving is something of a thinker.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: He has a lot of different thoughts that float around
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  Speaker 1: his head, and I believe he's probably a follower of
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the philosopher uh Ricky Bobby m If you're not first,
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  Speaker 1: your last, So I think that's his mentality, which I like.
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  Speaker 1: But also he's not good enough to be first by himself.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Never should have run away from Lebron. But is that
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  Speaker 1: is that true? Or is that just a reality of
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the fact that only one team is going to win
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  Speaker 1: a chip in any given year, because that is though,
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  Speaker 1: that is the way sports are structure, right, But it's
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  Speaker 1: the only one. So it's like, is it are we
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: just overreacting to the fact that Kyrie team got bounced?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Are we overreacting? Or is he overreacting because he seems miserable.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: That's true. He seems miserable everywhere he is. That's that's
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so maybe he's maybe he's the next Jimmy Butler. Maybe
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: he's just perpetually unhappy because you see, the thing about
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Eving is he could actually shoot. Oh don't give
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: me that, all right, I'm not going to have you. Sully,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the good name of Jimmy Butler also a free agent
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: in this class. Do you realize that, you, like the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: whole sixers starting on, none of them could shoot. The
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: only player that could get Joe centering is the seconds
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: shooting stinks. Tobias Harris, Tobias, He's He's I's I mean,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that was a key move form. But that's the thing
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: they needed to acquire to buy as Harris to be
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: what Jimmy Butler should have been. They he needs so
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: many free agents. He needed to be with Jimmy Butler
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: should have been It's not whatever, al right, where does
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: where does Kyrie land? I mean, where does the Knicks?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I hesitate to believe anything positive about the Knicks, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if that is positive. But I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: mean the way the title the Knicks titles have been climbing,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: sixth best in the league. It's almost absurd is that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hasn't been that high since Oh it's absolutely sucker, but
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the Knicks signed to Rant Kyrie, drafts Ion Williamson, and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: two of those a c L s are getting blown
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: within the first three months of the season. There's no
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: doubt about it. Who would you rather better on the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Knicks with Zion, Kyrie and k D or the thunder
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the Knisten Listen, we've seen Russell Westbrook might be my
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: favorite player in the NBA right now. I love him.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I love everything about him. I love his attitude, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: love his approach um. But yeah, that didn't happen in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, not unless something drastically changes. I don't know
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: about his approach because I feel like after we've seen
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: like half the centers in the league develop a three
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: point shot overnight. The fact that Russell Westbrook still she
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I mean that's a problem. That's that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: is a problem. But I mean he deferred a lot
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: more this year to Paul George than he did in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the past. I mean he let the other good player
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: on his team score points to that not really think
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you give him credit for. I mean, who else is?
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: What else is he gonna do? We can only score
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: so many points. He wants his ten of sist all right,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: he wants those tripled up with and does what's his name?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Terence Ferguson is not getting him for him? No, So
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: all right, So that's uh, that's that Kevin Durant nick
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the neck you know, am I crazy about? That? Doesn't
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: feel that realistic to me? It doesn't. Here's the thing, right,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I don't get it, Like I don't understand it. I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: don't know why you would want to leave if you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just break this down aside from like a basketball thing
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and just look at it as an employment, right, why
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: would we want to leave Cali? You want to leave
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a better place with better coworkers that could offer you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: more money to go to a worst climate with awful
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: coworkers and an awful boss, probably the worst boss in
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: your field for less money. I don't get it. I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: don't get the move. But everything seems everyone you talk to,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: everybody says this is happening. Durance moved his companies here,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: his his business manager moves here. Everything seems to be
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: pointing to the fact that he wants to come here.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to rectify the perception of his reputation
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that he joined Golden State for these rings. And if
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: there's one challenge in the NBA, it's resurrecting this dead
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: as a doornail franchise in New York City. I mean,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it's it feels like it's happening. We'll see. I mean,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's we don't know what this year. He
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: still hasn't stored me. Let's say he doesn't play again
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs this year. Like let's say his injuries here, Like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: does that change his decision at all? We don't know that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things to It feels like a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: fatal complete, does it not. I don't know what that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: even meaning? Bringing cultures, I um, it feels predetermined. It
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: feels like it's happening. If he doesn't come here. The
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: disappointment with Knicks fans is going to because no, no, Chrissy,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: it'll be worse than it was. I mean, Nicks fans
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: are at the point where they expect Kevin Durant to
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: be here. That's still I mean, I I agree with you,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but we didn't expect Lebron to be here in two
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: thousand ten. Like we hoped it, but we didn't expect it. Silly.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm with you. I just think that,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like I'm I'm trying to make this move to Cally,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why Katie would want to leave. All right,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the most important free agent of all,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. Where does he wind up? Hmm? I think
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it's still to be I mean, I think he could
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: land up on a random team like the Mavericks or
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: something like. I don't think it's I think he's not
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be yeah, Like, he's not gonna be the in
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: demand guy until Like I think dominoes are gonna have
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: to fall. What about Lebron strikes out and Jimmy Butler
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is his consolation prize in l A. I could see
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that happening. That won't work. I could see that happening.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's the whole thing with Jimmy Bower is
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: not a good shooter. What's gonna happen the first time
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler barks at Lebron for like lagging behind on defense.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Lebrons a fun anymore so,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I mean nobody. The thing about the Lakers is that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: no one really gives a funk. I mean Magic was like, yo,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: fucking I'm out. He ain't even Lebron chased the Magic
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: out of town. He chased Magic Johnson off the Lakers.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Think about that for a second. Magic Johnson took that job,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: did one season with Lebron and was like, I'm out.
• 23:07
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• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Let's talk some hockey. So we've got our conference finalists set.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: The Boston Bruins are taking on the Carolina Hurricanes and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Za Sharks taken on St. Louis Blues. Who do you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like in the East? I think I think I go
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: with the Canes. Man Like, I'm not even no, no, no, no, no,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: why not that Bruins. Listen. The Bruins, I think are
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the team that brings on Stanley Cup this year. They
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: are a perfect blend of old, young, experience and athleticism.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Their goaltender has been there, done that. The team is
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just this is the first year in the last few
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: years where the Bruins been in the playoffs, eve been healthy,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: they haven't been missing key pieces, and it's shown. I mean,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: they they've looked really good in the first two rounds.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Caroline is a nice story. Um, you know, they're kind
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: of that. I guess some people find them lovable. I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: don't particularly enjoy hockey in the Sun Belt, so it's
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: not really my thing. Um, but they played great defense.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I think Boston is just too well rounded to lose
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to Caroline. I think the series is probably six games
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and done. I mean, here's my thing about hockey, you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm it's probably my fourth sport. You know, I pay more.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I pay the most attention to NFL and NBA than
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: probably baseball. But the thing I learned about hockey is
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that it's incredibly hard to predict, and no one really
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: knows what they're talking about. You could be right about
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: your your analysis and this and and the and the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: actual outcomes still go to opposite way. So that just
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: inclines me to take the value. I just don't think
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: there's vagus. I don't think they can win. If you
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: point you don't think they could win. But if you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: want to look at if you had that approach in
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the West, I would agree with you because I think
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that series is a toss up in large part because
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the Sharks goaltender Martin Jones is the fucking worst. Um.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: San Jose is the better team. But St. Louis, even
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: though their goaltenders are rookie, has the better goalie, which
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: evens it out. So I that one. I wouldn't fault
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you for taking plus money on St. Louis because I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: think Martin Jones gonna give you two games in this series. Yeah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I've actually bet some some unders on his his saves
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and one, so yeah, he's kind of shaky but he uh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he's so Jekyll and Hide. But the crazy thing about St.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Louis is, on January one of this year, St. Louis
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: was the worst team in the NHL, and since that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: day they've been the best tea what I mean, like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: a total and complete one eight. And that's the same
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: thing with even Goalie's Like they're really hard to predict
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: from streaking from night tonight, you know. So, I mean
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I have I have a Sharks future. It's the only
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: future NHL future I have, and I bet it like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: strictly based on metrics. I actually want to ask you this,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: do you think that do you think that when you're
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: betting that watching games actually helps or it kind of
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: just went to to biases that maybe you wouldn't have
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: if you were a little more detached. I think it
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: depends on the sport um. I think hockey it helps
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to watch. I think in baseball, you don't have to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: watch baseball to baseball. I really don't. I don't think
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you need to watch it, Like you don't need to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: watch Paul Duke go o for four to know he's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: gonna go No, obviously not Listen, you see a guy
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: stepping up in the two hole and he's five seven.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: You know what you're dealing with. Um, Now, I agree,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I think so I feel that way about any NFL
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: to some extent. Like you know, there's like a big
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: debate in the NFL community about stats versus you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: film and all this stuff, and I just, you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: everyone knows I'm a big, big numbers guy. But I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: mean I watched every game and I found that it
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: just really helps a lot to kind of clarify things
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that might take hours and hours to figure out if
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you were just crunching numbers. So I mean, because I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: mean a lot of times in the NFL you can see,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe a team gets out to a big
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: lead and then the other team is just doing whatever
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: they want offensively, and it could look like they're very
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: potent offense when really defense was given them whatever they want,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you know, So it does help to have context of things.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I think in baseball is generally very little context. I mean,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: it is what it is, um because there's things you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: can't even even by watching it, you can't really see.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It's like the the numbers are are more illuminating a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: lot of times, especially these advanced ones. I mean you
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: can't see exactly like if you're watching the game, Okay,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this is all of his hot zones, and this is
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: exactly how hard he hit the ball. You know, like
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you can't see that the same way you can the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: way some of the numbers kind of show you what's
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: really going on. So I think baseball is a big
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: stats that sport Alright, so that's hockey talk. What else
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: we got? Um baseball? You want to talk about? Baseball stinks? Yeah?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Not really good? Um n yeah, alright, Well I'm gonna
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna break something up here that we're going to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: disagree about. Oh boy, the Arizona Cardinals Cardinal stink. Clip
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Kingsbury stinks. He's in over his head. He's got no
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: fucking idea what he's doing. He drafted an undersized quarterback
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: who I will give you has talent, but it's behind
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and historically bad offensive line that they did very little
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: to address, and he is going to get that kid killed.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury over under twenty two games as head coach
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of the Cardinals under man. So here's the thing. And
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and it's not like I know, we joke a lot
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: about this, but to be serious for a second, Like
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: there the problem is that in the NFL, there's a
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: lot of nepotism that goes on. There's a lot of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you know NFL lifers, you're putting other NFL
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: lifers in positions for power. But in reality Um and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz talked about this. It's when you're looking for
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: for for for good coaching talent, you want to start
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to look at the coaches that aren't just the guys
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: who have won the most games at the biggest programs,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: because those are the guys that it's it's easy for
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: them to get talent. It's easy for them to recruit
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: guys because just based on a program. But you want
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to look at a guy like a Kingsbury who maybe
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: his team was was average or below average, but his
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: offenses were top of the in the nation pretty much
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: every year. And the reason is that when you have
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a when you're running then a raid offense, you're just
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: no one takes your defense or it too. You're not
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: recruiting good defensive players and your defense is gonna stink
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and that then you you go five and seven or whatever,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and the perception is that you're a bad coach when
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: in reality you have a lot to bring to the table.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And I think that the NFL is slowly starting to
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: realize and change, and I think the Murray selection number
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: one just kind of proves that, um, the thinking is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: kind of slowly shifting. Um too to be a little sharper.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So I think that you can't You can't look at
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Kingsbury and say, oh, well, oh he had he had
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a five and seven records last year. I'm going by
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the fact that he's a vapid human being. What's have
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you ever? Can I ask you a question right now?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Do you know what his voice sounds like? Yeah? I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: mean do you because for a long time I have
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: sounded like and I heard him talk, and the man
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anything illuminating to say about anything. When you
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: watch Sean McVeigh talk, you're impressed by him, his command
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: of a room. He feels like he knows what he's doing.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury doesn't. It looks like a deer in the headlights.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And that roster, Chris is a bad roster. I actually disagree.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I think that I think the rosters underrated. First of all,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: you you know you you draft, you draft a coin
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you might have a better corner opposite Patrick Peterson and
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you've had in a while. The defense was never actually
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: bad to begin with. Um, the real issue last year
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: was that and and and this is a kind of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a sidebar too, everything that's going not just with Kingsbury
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and Kyler, but just the Giants and the Redskins and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Haskins and everything. Like, let me ask you this, how
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: good do we do we think Rosen is? How good
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: do we think Donald is? And how good do we
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: think because like, you know, really that cardinal offense, I mean, Chris, Chris, Chris,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that line was awful. I don't think we have any
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: handle on how good Rosen is. Coming into the raft
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: last year, I thought Rosen was the best of the bunch.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Obviously that's not the case we just made. But see,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, you gotta pay because I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: like there was amongst the community that I would say like, no,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: very well, like everyone was pretty much okay, Mayfield is
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the truth, and then it was like who's the second best?
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Like there wasn't even a question. So it's like that's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: why I'm like when people start to say, oh, I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: don't know about Kay, I don't know about kings. Just like, Yo,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: this is kind of a foregone conclusion that this dude
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: is going to have success. It's more how much is
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: he gonna have? Like I think that people are just
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: behind the curve if you're still out there doubting that
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: there's going to be successful. Like the air aid offense
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: is not just some like gimmick offense. You're right, but
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you've got to have the pieces to make it work,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: all right, So but it s all right? So so
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to me, I feel like from the outside, all right,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: what do you you think that? What do you think of?
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: But they signed a few veterans. They first of all,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: they got they had bad injury, looks like they had
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: down they didn't dress line, but they got they got,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: they got they like they got veteran like that. We've
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: seen this over and over and if, like year to year,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you know a line, you can confuse the answer. Here's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the thing. You can cobble together a decent Well, I'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: not saying you're gonna have the best line in the league,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but first of all, you gotta remember that this is
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: an offense that makes it's The reads are simple, the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: reads are quick. You're not holding the ball and being
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: like Josh Rosen was a guy who you know, he
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: has a little bit of ability to move around, but
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: he wasn't really doing that in Arizona. He was generally
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback, and so he's going to make the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: line look worse than it is. And you gotta remember,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like like for example, Peyton Manning throughout his career, Tom
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Brady even now, like his lines are only gonna look
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so bad because guess what, those dudes just know how
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball. The air it offense
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: helps you get rid of the ball, like you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: so even if they have a terrible offensive line, it's
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be minimized more so than it was with Rosen.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And I think with with the veterans the side, I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: think it's okay. I don't think it's bottom five the
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: way it was last year. Anyone has the potential to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: be bottom five because you're talking about six five eighty
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: pound due that are falling on each other's knees or
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: they easily anyone get her. Don't have great wide receivers there.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I think christ and Kirk is gonna be but you're
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: projecting that you haven't seen it yet. Well, yeah, but
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: this is how you this is how you got. You
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: have Isabella who is Chris Chris? When is her Chris?
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: When is the last you have David Johnson who can
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: put up a thousand yard teason at running back? When
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: is the last time a rookie wide receiver made an
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: enormous impact like five times to start? That's five years ago.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: But like, like you're taking like specific like I'm not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: saying Isabella is going to be amazingly she's gonna make
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: He's a fucking beast. I did and he is, But
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying, like you're Andy Isabella. Yeah, listen to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: that name and tell me that's a beast. But all right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but see you mock it now. But then there's people,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the real sharp people are going to be making money
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: off in more year and yeah, y'all gonna be out here.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like this Kingsberg guy. He's a moron. Okay,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: we'll see. Let's see how it goes in the game.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Start right, New York Chests makes the playoffs. I think
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: they could so so so the a s C. East,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you have the Patriots every year, and then you have
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you have what I call shotgun, a f c which
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: is like the second best team. That team, to me,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: it's the Bills. Don't tell me I'm a Bills fan.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Don't tell me that it's not true. It's not true.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of respects what they're doing. The
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Bills running backs are combined like hundred and twenty eight
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: running backs. Don't matter. You just told me David Johnson mattered. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: as a receiver. Josh Allen, I'm not in on why.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's any good. I think he's better
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: than ros. He's gonna of his passes. All right, all right,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: that ship doesn't work. Wait wait, wait, wait wait. First
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of all, are you telling me, are you telling me
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that Josh Allen didn't exceed your expectations last year? No?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Really interesting? No, I will give him. He was much
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: more athletic than I anticipated. As a passer, I think
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: he's But all right, do you remember a guy by
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the name of Cam Newton that was similarly inaccurate? Cam
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Newton ain't ever won ship. Yeah, but my point is
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton made a business decision in the Super Bowl.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: He did, so you comparison to Cam Newton. First of all,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Josh Allen's ceiling is a very very poor
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: man's Cam Newton, homeless man, Cam Newton, I disagree. I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: think Josh allen ceiling is Cam Newton. Tell me, tell
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: me this, tell me this is Josh Allen ceiling based
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: on what we saw on your one. Is Josh allen
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: ceiling not higher than Josh Rosen's. It's higher than Rosen's.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: What hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like Darna. I think Darn's going to be a better
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: pass than I'm not going to say ceiling is higher
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: than Roses's. No, hold on his floor is higher than Ros's.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Interesting take. I mean, well that so do you think
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: that just because he's mobile? In general? Yes, I agree
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: that athleticism will keep him around. Josh Rosen I think
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: could be very very good, but he also could be
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: really bad and be a bust and be out of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the league in three I think that's a good point.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think Josh Allen's out of the league in
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: three years because he's a guy that teams will want
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: to take a chance on. He's very athletic. I think
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that that is a good point because I think the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Giants got the Giants gotta mocked for for Dania Johnson.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I think there was a lot of problems with with
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that pick, and I think John Marra probably had a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: lot more to do with it than then, Like David
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Gettiman gets a lot of heat, but I really think
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: he's kind of a puppet for Mara. Um and I
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: think that Mary needs to catch the smoke too. But um,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I think the one sharp thing about that pick was
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that at least he can move like you know, like
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the guy could move
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: like like Dwayne Haskins, contrary to Hood stephen A. Smith
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: may Te statue and I I just don't like, like
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: you have to be really good. You have to be
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: better than you used to have to be to be
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: a statue in the NFL these days, it's right, you know.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So that's the one thing I like. And that's why
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I say like Josh Allen for all his so cold deficiencies,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was, you know, he was decent last year.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was like I don't think he
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: showed anything last year that would make you say I
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: want to see zero more of him when I want
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: to convention him right now, and I never want to
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: see him starting other game, I don't think, right and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I think and I think Josh Rosen was a lot
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: closer to that. Even if he makes he can make
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a U year to jump and that's fine, and I
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: think he might do that. We don't know, but um,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I just think that Josh Allen right now still like
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: the jury's out, and he might have the highest sailing
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: of all of the non mayfield passes in that class.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And and and by the way, Robert Foster is the truth.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I like f he caught so many bad breaks at Alabama.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: But they're the dudes out there that have said, like
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I would rather I would rather d Upmari Cooper. I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: think Beasley will help his completion percentage, giving him that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: they hope, because I think that I think that he's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: just not even gonna look at easily. He that's the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: only reason he's say. I think Beasley is kind of
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: an indictment more on z A. Jones, honestly, because I
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: think I think you're gonna have well Cole Beasley has
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: never been photographed running around naked in the hotel. I mean,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: because like think about it, you know, Jones was kind
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: of the inside, outside guy, you know, you're you're gonna
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: put Foster on it. He's gonna be one of the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: TAF two you got. And then they signed John Brown,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: which tells me that they want him one. So who's
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: really the odd man out there? Is they Jones? Because
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: they Jones could play in the slot and he probably
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: would have if they hadn't not so I think, you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: and if you look at like Robert Foster had a
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: twenty two point nine yard average of the target last
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: year and he caught sixty one. Josh Allen completed sixty
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: one of his passes to Foster. That is absurd for average.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: You have to target that for like, watch out for
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: this dude name So he was good to Foster and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: really shittied everyone else. Well, no, his his teammates were
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: just I mean, you know, he was the ghost of
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Charles Clay. Uh, some dude named Jason Room like ten
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: receivers who probably aren't even the coach of Sean McDermott.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. That's why that's why I said to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: build a shotgun in a SCS like every year, Like
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: there's no they had no business making a playoffs in
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: his first year, No business, No, absolutely not. I still
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: wish they kept Tyrod Taylor. I like Tyrode Taylor horrible.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Antonio has given us a fictional hundred dollars to wager. Yes,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Chad Melman's doppelganger, Antonio, Chad Melman's Mexican doppelganger, has given
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: us a fictional hundred dollars to wager. He said, Mexican
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: like you had a problem with it. No, you don't
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: want to build a wall in front of Antonio Cuban.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm I'm severally sorry. All right, So
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: let's go to the last segment. Um, Antonio has given
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: us a fictional hundred dollars to wager with. If you
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: were to have that money in your hand right now
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: at a sports book, where would you bet it? The
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: nearest prostitute, because it's always a bet when it's a prostitute. Three.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Antonio has handed us a fictional hundred dollars. Let's pretend
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you're in a sports book right now. What are you
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: betting it on? Mhm? I think, well, first, I think
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely going with I'm not going with any futures
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. No live action in the next
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: couple days. Uh, you know, I think I think I
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: would go with with the with the Nuggets on a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: road because I think you're getting good value there. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you look at Portlands
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: under under Terry stots Um, you know, coming off a loss,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: even they they're covering. I forget the exact rate, but
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I mentioned there, it's like it's terrible um and so
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't think they have an answer
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: for Yokos. So I've been on them and I probably
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: bet on the on it's around Raptors as well. You know,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: if you and if you look at home Underdogs which
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: is sixers are Um in game six or seven in
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, they have a similarly do a little money
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: line parlay Nuggets rapt I mean they tell me that
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: money line parleys. They tell me parley is a kind
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: of negative expected value. So I don't know if we
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: should be recommending that we have a bunch of nerds.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, if we if you were to parley the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Raptors and Nuggets money line, it's plus three forty two
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: right now, we can turn that hundred into a sweet
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: three forty two. So that's what you're advocating, That's that's
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: what you're going with it. That's what I'm doing. How many?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: How many? What percentage of your bets are party? Very few?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Very I thought you. I thought you're a big party guy. Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the NFL season I'll mess around with money line parlays,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: but not really other than football. Is there any reason
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: for that? Uh? It's hard enough to win one bet,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And now and now you want
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to you want to bet these things. I agree with
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you though about the Nuggets. I would the Nuggets money
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: line and plus one fifty. I love that. I love it.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Why not? I mean again, I wasn't big on the Nuggets,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: but I mean, yo, kich is just they have no
• 43:57
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