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Speaker 1: I recall the same feeling watching Hutchinson against Ohio State
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Speaker 1: this year and thinking that's a J. J. Watt kind
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Speaker 1: of player either side in the middle. Welcome to Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters podcast. It's Monday, April eighteenth,
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Brian Sexton, John Oh's you're Ashlan Sullivan out today.
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Speaker 1: that Good morning, guys. Are we doing there? The calling
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Speaker 1: out pods? Get your pods pods short for podcast? No, No No,
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Speaker 1: I know what it's short for. I just I've never
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Speaker 1: heard get your pods. Well, you can get sort even further,
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Speaker 1: get your your pause. Yes, thanks, we're off and running today.
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Speaker 1: But who watched the USFL this weekend. Anybody I did
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Speaker 1: not see it. I watched the first I saw one
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Speaker 1: highlight clip Birmingham Stallions over the New Jersey Generals. That's
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Speaker 1: your club, Birmingham, right off the field. Right. How about
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Speaker 1: the technology that the television broadcast using drones all over
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Speaker 1: the place. You know, when I was a doing NFL
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Speaker 1: Europe twenty years ago with Fox Sports, they had you know,
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Speaker 1: they thought this was novel. They had the coaches and
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Speaker 1: they let us take the assistant coaches live on the
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Speaker 1: sidelines talking and I can remember thinking all those years ago, Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, this will be interesting. We'll see if this
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Speaker 1: is going to grow in the NFL. And obviously it
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Speaker 1: still hasn't, you know over here and the USFL is
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Speaker 1: going to push technology and cell phones and all that
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Speaker 1: stuff is now such a big part of life. I'd
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Speaker 1: be surprised if the NFL doesn't find some things to
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Speaker 1: use from this. They should start taking advantage of that
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Speaker 1: interweb thing, the NFL the Internet. Oh yeah, he'll never
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Speaker 1: take off. About the drones thing is interesting. I've never
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Speaker 1: been big on they talked to coaches during the game,
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Speaker 1: just because I feel like that, hey, they're not going
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Speaker 1: to say very much. And they weren't interview they weren't
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Speaker 1: they were mics, and there were certain times where they
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Speaker 1: never do that. Well, it was really of course this
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Speaker 1: league going that league. So at some point they were
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Speaker 1: talking about what's going on here. The interesting part was
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Speaker 1: they'd say between two and four minutes, you know, you're
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Speaker 1: on right. The time clock had little windows where we
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Speaker 1: could use it, and then you'd have a production assistant
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Speaker 1: behind the bench going, hey, you guys are live during
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Speaker 1: this segment, so they would know not to drop f
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Speaker 1: bombs and all of that stuff. It was just it
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Speaker 1: was fascinating stuff and I really thought it it broadened
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Speaker 1: the scope of of the broadcast and of the entertainment
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Speaker 1: value of it. It's just interesting that twenty years later,
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Speaker 1: with all the technology that they really haven't what would
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Speaker 1: be fascinating at that in the NFL, as soon as
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Speaker 1: you put some of these guys in the mic, to
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Speaker 1: hear them playing to the camera and sticking their chest out,
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Speaker 1: it would be it would be embarrassing at times. So
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Speaker 1: did you like the technology like the drones? The drones
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Speaker 1: made me feel a little uneasy, like they're just a
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Speaker 1: little they're right in them, coming behind the play and
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Speaker 1: then swooping over a kick return and coming back, so
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Speaker 1: you can't really see the whole play. That was part
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Speaker 1: of my issue. And then they're actually doing it during
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Speaker 1: you know, they're following behind a receiver on a route
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Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I don't know how they avoid
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Speaker 1: getting hit by the football, but when it's thrown to
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Speaker 1: the sideline or something like that, so they're just swooping
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Speaker 1: all over the place. It felt a look for me
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Speaker 1: just looking at it, just like you're you're a little uneasy.
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Speaker 1: It was weird. Is it is it my memory failing
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Speaker 1: or at some point like seven or eight years ago,
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Speaker 1: do they not on NBC have like the cam that
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Speaker 1: came down on like the wires. Did they still do
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Speaker 1: that skycam? Yeah, that's right, they still do that, really
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Speaker 1: because I haven't seen it in a while. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: felt like, do you know the idea of the time
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Speaker 1: that's that's every big college game has that now, and
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Speaker 1: like the big Sunday night and on your iPad on
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Speaker 1: the Sunday night, if you go to their website, you
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Speaker 1: can switch to that camera and just watch that camera.
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Speaker 1: You can go to the sideline times. So they use
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Speaker 1: some technology you know in some alternate platforms. It's just
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Speaker 1: from what I've read of the U s FL, and
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Speaker 1: you know, the XFL will take it to another level
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Speaker 1: because that's what you know they do. They're they're pushing
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Speaker 1: the limits and trying to create new ways to engage fans.
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Speaker 1: And um, what do they think of next? Well, we
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Speaker 1: got all these spring leagues to to try some things out.
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Speaker 1: USFL this year, the xtfl's next year, is it the
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Speaker 1: XFL to the who did the NFL just invest in
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Speaker 1: or just they have there's a partnership for player development.
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Speaker 1: They announced it last week. It's probably the XFL. So
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Speaker 1: there you go. We've got football technology that didn't catch
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Speaker 1: on JP back in the old days in nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: four the WFL right uh, the Sharks wearing at the
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville starts text express. Um, they had a first down
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Speaker 1: marker where instead of instead of chains, they laid it
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Speaker 1: on its side and extended it ten yards. It never
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Speaker 1: took off. They don't have change. No, they have a
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Speaker 1: chip in the ball and they have electronic change that
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Speaker 1: take those off the sidelines. I never saw that in
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Speaker 1: action during the game that I've watched the other night. Um,
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Speaker 1: they didn't really have to show it or hey, we're
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Speaker 1: measuring this. Uh, maybe I missed it. I was in
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Speaker 1: and out of the game a little bit. But the
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Speaker 1: GPS and the ball and the field being subject to
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Speaker 1: that sort of thing feels like a thing that's coming
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Speaker 1: at some point. I won't like it. I don't like
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Speaker 1: it either. I like the drama of pulling the chain
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Speaker 1: out and stretching the chain out like I think television
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Speaker 1: likes that too. And you can be sure that they
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Speaker 1: will find a way when it's fourth and inches to
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Speaker 1: show you exactly how far it is, whether it's you know,
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Speaker 1: electronically a line or an arrow or something. They'll find
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Speaker 1: a way to recapture that drama. But hey, guys, well
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Speaker 1: it's the entertainment business now right. I mean it always
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Speaker 1: has been about entertaining fans and getting them to the TV.
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Speaker 1: This is taking it to a completely different level. Don't
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Speaker 1: they have that now? And like soccer they had the
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Speaker 1: v A R thing, and then Tennis has it as well.
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Speaker 1: You can you know, you can look at the inner
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Speaker 1: out real quick. Yeah, Tennis has it on hard courts
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Speaker 1: and and grass. They have the eye in the sky.
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Speaker 1: They don't have it on clay because the technology is
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Speaker 1: something about the technology that won't work on clay. So
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Speaker 1: I wonder Wimbledon works on grass. So I wonder if
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Speaker 1: you translate to the American interesting, well, and you can
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Speaker 1: see the mark and clay right where the ball hits. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's right. It's sometimes there are people who
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Speaker 1: wanted on clay, but it hasn't happened yet. I play
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Speaker 1: on clay and with some friends and we argue over
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Speaker 1: that mark. Was there? No? That more right? Exactly? Of
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Speaker 1: course you do. This is the Jaguars Reporters podcast, J. P. Shattick,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John Osier. All Right, so it's the
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Speaker 1: second week of phase one of the off season program.
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Speaker 1: Same rules as last week. You're limited a meeting strength
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Speaker 1: and can isstioning some rehab work. It's all voluntary, of course,
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Speaker 1: only four hours a day in the building. Now, last
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Speaker 1: week we heard from offensive coordinator Press Taylor. He was
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Speaker 1: on Jaguar's Happy Hour with us. This is an important time. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: it's the first real opportunity to talk xs and ohs
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Speaker 1: and continue to build this offense. But imagine being thirty
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Speaker 1: four years old, those were the days first of all,
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Speaker 1: it's been a minute. How long do you a little while?
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Speaker 1: A few? Um, But you have all this offensive brain
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Speaker 1: power around you too. I mean Doug Peterson's here, of course,
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Speaker 1: Mike McCoy, Jim Bob Cooter, Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they're building this thing together. That is a
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Speaker 1: lot to get done in the first couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: of this thing. I wonder if it's too many cooks
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Speaker 1: in the kitchen at one point, right yet, Jim Bob Cooter,
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Speaker 1: did you mention him? Um? First of all, Press Taylor
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Speaker 1: was so impressive in his original news conference. I mean
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Speaker 1: I just remember sitting there thinking, this guy is thirty
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Speaker 1: four years old and in this room leading all of
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Speaker 1: these players. So an impressive young offensive mind. And he's
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Speaker 1: got Mike McCoy, got some older coaches in the room,
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to lead. I'm gonna be interested
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Speaker 1: in that dynamic. Yes, that down with Mike last week,
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Speaker 1: Mike McCoy. Um, you know it was one ten minutes segment,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't get the idea. Uh. I had not
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Speaker 1: come away from that thinking, Wow, this guy is really
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Speaker 1: itching to call plays. So the cooks in the kitchen part.
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Speaker 1: I don't see. Uh, that'd be an element with McCoy
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Speaker 1: he talked about. Uh. The gist of the conversation we
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Speaker 1: had was how glad he was to be back in
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Speaker 1: the quarterback room, working one on one with a quarterback
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Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence. Uh, supporting Press Taylor, which is what
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Speaker 1: you would expect him to say. But uh, again, I
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Speaker 1: didn't get the vibe that he was coming back. I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to get back to a certain level. I got
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Speaker 1: the idea that he's really happy to be back in
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Speaker 1: the NFL though after two year, and you're gonna we're
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Speaker 1: gonna hear that conversation tomorrow. I believe the ozone podcast drops.
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Speaker 1: You've been dropping podcasts left right down. Uh yeah, they
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Speaker 1: keep sipping out of my hand. I can't pick him up.
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Speaker 1: You drop him out there. People listen to him. So
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Speaker 1: we look forward to that. McCoy had been out of
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Speaker 1: the league for what three years? And two years? Well, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry three because he was the last night in
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Speaker 1: eighteen so um, and he has a relationship with Doug
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Speaker 1: Peterson had been looking to get back in and and
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Speaker 1: wanted to get back in at the right time and
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Speaker 1: as you can imagine somebody's been out of the league,
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Speaker 1: a chance to come back and work with Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 1: work with Doug Peterson, working with Trevor Lawrence. If you're
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Speaker 1: an offensive guy. Uh, it's hard to imagine a better situation. Well,
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Speaker 1: and take it for what it's worth. Who I should
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Speaker 1: work with? He worked with Peyton in in Denver, and
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Speaker 1: he worked with Philip Rivers in San Diego, both of
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Speaker 1: whom are bigger quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence is. You know,
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Speaker 1: we talked last year about all the different people Brian
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Speaker 1: Schotenheimer had worked with, you know, and Darryl Bevil had
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Speaker 1: worked with. But these are two guys who are more
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Speaker 1: stylistically aligned with a Trevor Lawrence than Russell Wilson. So
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Speaker 1: you're getting that kind of brain power and that kind
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Speaker 1: of experience into the room with him. It can't be
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Speaker 1: bad from that perspective. But these first two weeks I
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Speaker 1: think are key just to set the tone, figure out
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Speaker 1: the language, and get everything going in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: Once they get on the field, they can use that
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Speaker 1: in practice and move forward well and and and honestly,
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Speaker 1: looking at it, it's it's all how much Trevor can
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Speaker 1: digest and how much he wants. I mean that they're
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Speaker 1: doing and building around him. So all these guys are
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Speaker 1: getting together and laying things out, and he's going to
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Speaker 1: be picking and saying that works or that doesn't. And
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Speaker 1: I haven't I didn't hear what Priss Taylor had to say,
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Speaker 1: but mccoin made a point of saying, ARV's got a
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Speaker 1: lot of work to do. He's a talented guy. But
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Speaker 1: I think this staff also knows, uh if if you
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Speaker 1: want to get from where he was last year, which
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Speaker 1: is not where he wants to be. Um, this is
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Speaker 1: not just a turn he approached where all of hidden
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Speaker 1: just because he's Trevor Lawrence is gonna work out week one.
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Speaker 1: They have work to do with him. I think they're
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Speaker 1: aware of that. The Jaguars are future focused and ready
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for the draft now. I was not ready
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Speaker 1: until this weekend, and for some reason, I woke up
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Speaker 1: today thinking, you know what, I am excited for the draft.
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Speaker 1: I'm radio and I'm not usually that excited. JP. I
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Speaker 1: know that I'm ready after after a long winters and
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Speaker 1: that we we've won John Over finally, Bryan. Are you ready? Well?
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Speaker 1: I better be. I'm going to Vegas next Tuesday. No,
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Speaker 1: I I am. I am. It's kind of I don't
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Speaker 1: know how to describe it when when you're sitting at
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Speaker 1: the top of this draft and there's not a lot
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Speaker 1: of drama. Last year, it was obviously a great storyline. Uh,
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Speaker 1: this year, it's intrigued. You know, do you take the
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Speaker 1: safe pick, uh, and Hutchinson seems like he's going to
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Speaker 1: be a really good safe player. Or do you take
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Speaker 1: the lightning in the bottle, pick the trail Travon Walker,
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Speaker 1: kid from Georgia, who's I poppingly athletic and everyone says
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Speaker 1: there's a great kid. Or do you go off the
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Speaker 1: board and do something unexpect Don't you think it's got
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Speaker 1: to be one of those four guys we've been talking
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Speaker 1: about forever, Hutchinson or Walker or Neil or KWANDU. I
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Speaker 1: mean there's there's no now. They're can't be They're can't be. No,
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Speaker 1: not at this point, John No. And I would actually
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Speaker 1: look at some statistics. I'm so excited for the draft,
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Speaker 1: um and all of the knocks that you hear on
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Speaker 1: Uh Hutchinson, Oh the one year he only had one
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Speaker 1: great year? Uh, go back and look at J. J.
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Speaker 1: Watt stats in college. You know, I I am not
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Speaker 1: one to spend a whole lot of time on a
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Speaker 1: guy's college stats, except that I do think it's good
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Speaker 1: to see at least one year where there was uber
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Speaker 1: production if you're gonna be a sack guy, and that
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Speaker 1: was his last year Wisconsin. I think I've said, I
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Speaker 1: told you the story. I remember getting to Houston for
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Speaker 1: a game and turning on the Rose Bowl and it
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Speaker 1: was TCU against Wisconsin and all you saw was J. J.
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Speaker 1: Watt dominating, and you knew he was worthy of that.
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Speaker 1: I got the same actually had five sacks as the
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Speaker 1: scene I were call the same feeling watching him against
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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Hutchinson against Ohio State this year and thinking
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Speaker 1: that's a J J. Watt kind of player either side
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Speaker 1: in the middle, the long arms, the broad shoulders. Um
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Speaker 1: whether he ever reaches that level of performance remains to
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Speaker 1: be seen. But you know, people forget J. J. Watt
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Speaker 1: was a transfer from Central Michigan where he was a
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Speaker 1: tight end and his stats are remarkably similar as well
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Speaker 1: to T. J. Watson College, And uh, you take that
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Speaker 1: all day long. Yeah, And the only guy who's like
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Speaker 1: a mega pass rights people think about Chase Young had
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Speaker 1: like seventeen as a senior something on. Guy like Garrett
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Speaker 1: had a pretty good year too. But often these guys
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Speaker 1: have a huge stretch and then college team's game plan
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Speaker 1: for him and they throw everything at him. They put
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Speaker 1: three guys over him, like George, and you can take
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Speaker 1: a guy away if you want to do that. Um,
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Speaker 1: I mean people are over over analyzing the Georgia game
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Speaker 1: with him. Uh, he had a dominant stretch during his
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Speaker 1: his final season. He's as read, there's nothing really to
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Speaker 1: indicate that one game like that is going to cause
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Speaker 1: you to succeed or fail in the NFL. I think
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. Well exactly, here's what you hear
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Speaker 1: about him is that he'll be a ten sack guy
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Speaker 1: year after year. But he may not be Nick Bosa
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Speaker 1: or Chase Young. Okay, well, we haven't had a lot
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Speaker 1: of ten sack guys around here in the last since
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Speaker 1: two thousand six, right, since Tony Bracken's left. That's if
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Speaker 1: he's that good, plug him in and go. If that's
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Speaker 1: the pick at number one, you'll never regret it. You know,
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Speaker 1: at seventeen and a half sacks last year, Will Anderson Jr.
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Speaker 1: And his true sophomore season in Alabama, he's coming out
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Speaker 1: most likely, and he'll be a top five guy next year.
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Speaker 1: But aren't there in that in that mix? That's Josh Allen. Hum,
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Speaker 1: that's crazy, right, yeah, Josh Allend? What seventeen is the
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Speaker 1: senior um? Again, you can't control what's not in the draft. Uh,
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Speaker 1: but you can't control what you take there. Would they
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Speaker 1: feel better if there was a quarterback so that they
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Speaker 1: could trade down. I think they think they would do that.
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Speaker 1: It's not there. Would you feel better if if it
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Speaker 1: was Chase Young who was considered can't miss or Miles
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Speaker 1: Garison you can't miss? Sure, that's not what there is.
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Speaker 1: You got to decide what's from what's there. To me,
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking right now that they
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Speaker 1: pick won't be hush. I'm with you on that. I
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Speaker 1: think I've said my favorite player when I watched him
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Speaker 1: as the tackle from North Carolina State. I love a quantity,
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Speaker 1: but it's hard to see them taking him with the
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Speaker 1: situation they've got with Cam Robinson and Brandon Sheriff. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think Hutchinson not only he's the best player in
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Speaker 1: this draft according to people. Um. If that's the case,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that you don't have those other guys.
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Speaker 1: You take the best player. So I think Hutchinson is
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Speaker 1: the safest and the best player. Coming up this week,
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Speaker 1: Jack's Drive Time to day, what's on the docket tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: guys and Chris Man hurt alright? Uh, And of course
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Speaker 1: we'll have Brian Sexton on as well. Well. Maybe Ashland
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Speaker 1: will be here too. We'll see. That'll be tomorrow at
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Speaker 1: ten o'clock Wednesday, Huddle up with Bucky Brooks Thursday Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour and then the weekend review on Friday. Mike
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Speaker 1: McCoy ozone podcast tomorrow, I believe John, Yes, that should
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Speaker 1: drop tomorrow, which U And it's a good conversation with
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Speaker 1: a guy who was ready to get back into coaching
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna have uh, you know, intimate contact uh
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Speaker 1: with the most important player on the team. It's Jerry Lawrence.
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Speaker 1: So I think it'll be a a good poking. Look forward
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Speaker 1: to hearing that as well, and thank you for listening
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