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Dr. Grazyna Pajunen – Biohacking A Way to a Better You · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. Is it possible to turn back the clock,
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Speaker 1: reverse the aging process and look and feel better than
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Speaker 1: you did ten years ago? My guest this week on
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited, Doctor Grazina pajunin says this can be achieved
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Speaker 1: with biohacking. Doctor Pajunan is a renowned biohacking coach. She
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Speaker 1: not only knows the natural waste, disrupt the downward spiral
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Speaker 1: of declining health and improve the status quo, but also
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Speaker 1: the newest ingestibles, supplements, wearable tech, and AI tools. But
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Speaker 1: what she is best known for is turning back the
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Speaker 1: clock reversing the aging process. Her website is Age Reversingsecret
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Speaker 1: dot com and she joins me this week to share
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Speaker 1: her work and her book, Biohacking Away to a better
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Speaker 1: you look and feel better than you did ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: Please join me in welcoming to Destination Unlimited. Doctor Grazina Pajunan. Welcome,
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Speaker 1: doctor Pajunin.
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Speaker 2: I'm extremely excited to be here.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much, Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Projunan. Please share with us your early life and
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Speaker 1: how your path led you to your interest in science.
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Speaker 2: Well, that is very interesting question because I was born
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Speaker 2: in a war so which was under the communistic regime,
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Speaker 2: so I was it was completely different life, of course
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Speaker 2: than in the United States. But the important always think
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Speaker 2: in my family was get good education. So we all
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Speaker 2: tried to get as good education as we could. And
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Speaker 2: I just got accepted to study electronics at the in
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Speaker 2: Wards of Technical University. And when I graduated Electronic State
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Speaker 2: and then I left Poland with just ten dollars and
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Speaker 2: a bicycle. We couldn't exchange more money than ten dollars,
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Speaker 2: and it was very difficult actually to get a passport,
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Speaker 2: but somehow I'm managed and I sign up for the
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Speaker 2: PhD program in Housing University in order to be legally
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Speaker 2: in Finland, because it was it is, it was not
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Speaker 2: easy to stay legally outside of Poland with and without
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Speaker 2: the kind kind of government permission because then they put
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Speaker 2: repression on your family in the country. So anyhow, that
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Speaker 2: was my reason why I did PhD, but it was
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Speaker 2: actually extremely useful because once I completed the PhD, they
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Speaker 2: invited me to teach at the university in the United States.
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Speaker 2: So it opened me the door to this beautiful country,
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Speaker 2: where I asked, when I am here for over.
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Speaker 1: Forty years, wonderful, Please tell us about your work at
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Speaker 1: Florida Atlantic University and UCLA.
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Speaker 2: Well, my area is adaptive control systems, so I was
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Speaker 2: working with different projects that involve needed the optimization and adaptation.
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Speaker 2: And the most interesting for me and the most challenging
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Speaker 2: for me were the project in biomedical field. So when
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Speaker 2: we had two model human body and I noticed how
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Speaker 2: extremely complicated it is. And the problem was that normally,
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Speaker 2: if we model something, we have at least the structure
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Speaker 2: that remains the same and the parameters change and we
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Speaker 2: could adjust the parameters and we could then adjust the
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Speaker 2: control systems. But as far as the human body goes,
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Speaker 2: everything has changed. If we just put something from outside
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Speaker 2: like a drug, the body responds and need to respond
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Speaker 2: in such a way that we needed to change not
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Speaker 2: only the parameters but also the model the structure of
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Speaker 2: the in order to be able to design anything. So
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Speaker 2: it was very challenging, very difficult, but I loved it
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Speaker 2: because we could help human beings to perform and to
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Speaker 2: live the best life they can, and that's what's my
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Speaker 2: really happiness to do that.
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Speaker 1: How did your path shift from academia to entrepreneurship and
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Speaker 1: your passion for health and wellness?
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Speaker 2: Well, as far as the business goes, I always loved business.
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Speaker 2: My father was a businessman, my husband was a businessman,
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Speaker 2: and I was drawn to business. However, I just, you know,
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Speaker 2: the door for teaching at university just opened and I
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Speaker 2: just started doing that, and I loved it. I loved teaching.
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Speaker 2: I loved education. But as far as the so I was,
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Speaker 2: I really was looking to go for business, but I
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Speaker 2: had a small son, so I didn't want to get
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Speaker 2: too much involved at that time with working for the company.
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Speaker 2: Working for university was much easier for me because my
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Speaker 2: son was coming with me very often and we were
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Speaker 2: able to be together much more than if I was
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Speaker 2: working for the industry. I was also very interested in
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Speaker 2: power of intention. I was starting working with Professor Tiler
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Speaker 2: from Stanford University, who was eminent scholar in material science,
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Speaker 2: and what we were doing is he was putting the
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Speaker 2: meditators by the device and they were storing the intention,
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Speaker 2: and he shifted to my lab and we were materializing
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Speaker 2: that intention in that laboratory, and it was very very
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Speaker 2: interesting how we could notice the influence of those results.
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Speaker 2: And there were the exams at the university where people
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Speaker 2: were nervous, everything, everything was changing. So I noticed there
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Speaker 2: is amazing a big possibility for us, for humans to
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Speaker 2: influence our life and optimize our performance by controlling or
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe say controlling our emotions, our thoughts, our and
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Speaker 2: rising our awareness. So this is something that I was
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Speaker 2: very very interested in. As a matter of fact, we
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Speaker 2: have a paper in Alternative Journal of Alternative Medicine on
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Speaker 2: that topic. But just that was not exact shift, although
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Speaker 2: it was some shift from my research at the university.
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Speaker 2: But later on what happened was my husband had a
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Speaker 2: problem with his shoulder and he was not able to
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Speaker 2: move the right arm without the help of the left arm,
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Speaker 2: and he went to the doctor's and the doctors told
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Speaker 2: him that it's too damage for anything else. We need
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Speaker 2: to do the replacements. So he said, okay, if we
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Speaker 2: do the replacement, can I waterski? Can I do my
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Speaker 2: yard work? Can I do weightlifting? And they said absolutely not.
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Speaker 2: So he said, I'm not doing it. I really want
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Speaker 2: to be active in life. So then and he was
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Speaker 2: in so much pain that he couldn't sleep at night.
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Speaker 2: He was on pay killers non stop. I mean, the
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Speaker 2: doctor said, you will not survive. We keep the file
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Speaker 2: because you will be back here. There is no way
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Speaker 2: that you can live with this type of pain. So
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Speaker 2: we were looking for the solutions. This was the time
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Speaker 2: when I starting my research and looking into what else
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Speaker 2: he could do to not to have joined replacement, but
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Speaker 2: at the same time not to live with this type
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Speaker 2: of discomfort and pain. So that's how we discovered the
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Speaker 2: first you know, that amazing way to it. You know,
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Speaker 2: first of all, I was I was asking myself a question,
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Speaker 2: what is the reason, real reason that our body degenerates?
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Speaker 2: In other words, what is the reason that our joints
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Speaker 2: starts to hurt? Because it's not my husband, it's kind
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Speaker 2: of every third or second person who have problems with
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Speaker 2: one or more joints. And also we see that we
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Speaker 2: dry out, we see it on our face, you know,
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Speaker 2: we get wrinkles, and what is the reason. And actually
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Speaker 2: I was working at that time with a professor who
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Speaker 2: is orthopedic professor and he told me that the reason
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Speaker 2: is that we have the generation of connective tissue. And
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Speaker 2: I said, okay, if this is the problem, so how
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Speaker 2: do we solve this problem? Well, connect we have to
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Speaker 2: understand what connective tissue is built off. So the main
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Speaker 2: three components of connective tissue is collagen, hydrouronic acid, controid itself,
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Speaker 2: ade and also other glycominoglycans. So that's pretty obvious that
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Speaker 2: if we could somehow give our body back those components,
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Speaker 2: our body can rebuild itself. Because it's clear, it was
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Speaker 2: started to become very clear for me that our body
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Speaker 2: can rebuild itself as a matter of fact, that this moment,
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Speaker 2: this is proven in Harvard University when they are they
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Speaker 2: said that the memory of our of our cells, of
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Speaker 2: when they are even on genes, when they are on
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Speaker 2: and off, or it's really stored in the body. The
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Speaker 2: thing about our youth is stored in our body. So
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Speaker 2: if we are able to change our environment and access
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Speaker 2: that information, that our body can rebuild itself. And that's
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Speaker 2: pretty clear. So if this is the fact, then let's
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Speaker 2: focus on what can we do to reach that and
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Speaker 2: to rebuild our body so that we can enjoy this
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Speaker 2: life to the end and not suffer, you know, you know,
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Speaker 2: and live long life, but most of the life, you know,
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Speaker 2: after sixty or seventy, you know, we live in this comfort.
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Speaker 2: So that is that was my passion, became my passion,
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Speaker 2: and that's what resulted with my father work.
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Speaker 1: Please explain what biohacking is and how it can improve
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Speaker 1: someone's health and longevity.
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Speaker 2: Well, biohacking is understood like optimize your performance. So in
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Speaker 2: other words, on many levels, because biohacking is not just
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Speaker 2: eating well, it's not just exercising they are they it's
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Speaker 2: many many factors. But if we take care of those factors,
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Speaker 2: then we can optimize performance, our body performance on all
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Speaker 2: levels a mental level, physical level, emotional level. So this
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Speaker 2: is what really biohacking is. And that's why I wrote
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Speaker 2: this book because it explains like what it's not only
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Speaker 2: what we can do, so what we should be doing.
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Speaker 2: Because most people know there is a mind body collection
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Speaker 2: and we have practical strategies for that. We have we
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Speaker 2: need to focus on nutrition and there is no one
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Speaker 2: fits all. Everybody is different. We have to have physical activity. Again,
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Speaker 2: a lot of things are misunderstood and again it's not
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Speaker 2: one fits all so that we have sleep optimization, we
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Speaker 2: have hormone optimization, and then we have also set up
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Speaker 2: our environment in the most optimal way to you know,
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Speaker 2: like EMF protection and also optimization your home. And also
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Speaker 2: very very important when you do all this so that
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Speaker 2: you track your performance. So how would you track your
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Speaker 2: performance when you are doing all those things? So you
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Speaker 2: have to collect your data. You have you have to
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Speaker 2: be like a researcher, you know, you have to collect data,
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Speaker 2: analyze the data and see that you are moving in
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Speaker 2: the right direction.
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Speaker 1: And it's personal science.
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Speaker 2: It is personal science exactly exactly, but it's worth it.
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Speaker 2: It's worth it. I tell you. Anybody can do it.
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Speaker 2: And you don't have to take care of everything because
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Speaker 2: sometimes you already eat correctly, you're already exercise, you're doing
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Speaker 2: all the stuff, and maybe something is missing. So that's
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Speaker 2: why I wrote the book because now you have the
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Speaker 2: reference and they are about five hundred references there, so
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Speaker 2: you can pick up the chapter which you want to
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Speaker 2: work on, because you can't work on everything at the
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Speaker 2: same time. There is impossible. You have to just do
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Speaker 2: step by step optimize each part. And you see and
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Speaker 2: there are and you can go as deep as you want,
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Speaker 2: because every chapter has many references, so you can just
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Speaker 2: pull up the references from there on and go as
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Speaker 2: deep as you want. But is it worth it? I
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Speaker 2: think it is because nowadays we are living longer but
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Speaker 2: live but also so this life span have expanded. However,
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Speaker 2: the life in health and without discomfort, with all the
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Speaker 2: mobility abilities, with the possibility of taking care of yourself shortened,
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Speaker 2: and as as I have heard, it's for women, it's
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Speaker 2: right now sixty four. So, my god, if we love
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Speaker 2: longer and we have to be dependent on medications, we
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Speaker 2: have to be dependent on somebody who is coming to
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Speaker 2: our house and help us to brush our teeth. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's not the life I think most of us want
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Speaker 2: to live.
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Speaker 1: What are some of the most transformative biohacking strategies that
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Speaker 1: you discuss in Biohacking A Way to a Better You?
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Speaker 2: The most transformative, it's again it depends upon the person
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Speaker 2: because it's not the most transformative, Like everybody is different,
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Speaker 2: so it's not general. So for example, let's say that
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Speaker 2: we take the mind body connection. You have to understand
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Speaker 2: because stress is a killer. So if you have this
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Speaker 2: problem that you are reacting to people coming in front
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Speaker 2: of you. Let's say you drive a car and and
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Speaker 2: and you are becoming angry, or somebody tells you something,
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Speaker 2: you stay in stillness. You you not react, but but
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Speaker 2: act without reaction when you raise your awareness that a
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Speaker 2: lot of things are going to improve in your life. Now.
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Speaker 2: The other thing is so, but some people are already
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Speaker 2: very good that, but maybe they need more guidance in
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Speaker 2: physical activity because without movement, people think that they have
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Speaker 2: pain in their joints. So they cannot move because and
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Speaker 2: I have a lot of clients like that that they
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Speaker 2: cannot move because it hurts. And then we have to
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Speaker 2: understand what they can do, what level, which exercises and someone.
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Speaker 2: So this is something else. Next rite supplementation. There is
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Speaker 2: a lot of people like going and they listen, they
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Speaker 2: hear something and they say, okay, I probably need it,
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Speaker 2: and they go and buy it. They even don't know
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Speaker 2: how to choose the supplement. They don't know which one
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Speaker 2: is good for them, they don't know why they are
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Speaker 2: even getting the supplements. And too much is not good either.
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Speaker 2: So you have to have some type of guidance which
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Speaker 2: supplements and how to know which one you need. Basically
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Speaker 2: the most important for most people is rebuilding connective tissue.
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Speaker 2: So we have that liquid collagen hydroonic matrix which is
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Speaker 2: bioidentical to our bodies, so the body understands as its
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Speaker 2: own and rebuilds from inside out. So this is what
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Speaker 2: I notice is the most important for most people because
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Speaker 2: we are drying out, we are losing that and we
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Speaker 2: want to give it back to our body so our
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Speaker 2: body can put it in our places that it's needed.
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Speaker 2: For example, if you have dry eyes, that's indicator that
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Speaker 2: you do not have enough hydronic acet in your body.
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Speaker 2: You may have problems with your skin, you may have
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Speaker 2: problems with your gums, or your hair is coming out.
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Speaker 2: This is all that your body is missing something, and
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Speaker 2: now identifying what is missing and giving the body what
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Speaker 2: it needs is very important. The next thing is inflammation.
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Speaker 2: I mean that is so common today. The next one
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Speaker 2: is insulin resistance. And people are trying to lose weight
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Speaker 2: all the different ways and they don't eat, and this
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Speaker 2: is terrible because we need food, we need energy. This
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Speaker 2: is not the way to do it. And because you
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Speaker 2: may start yourself and then the waves come back with
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Speaker 2: even more, even more than at the beginning. So that's
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Speaker 2: not the way to do it, So knowing what to
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Speaker 2: do is very very important. Sleeping the next one. Most
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Speaker 2: of us, at least my friends like to stay late
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Speaker 2: at night. Well, the best time to sleep, go to
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Speaker 2: sleep is around ten o'clock or before, because that's where
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Speaker 2: the body is really rebuilding itself and that serotonin and
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Speaker 2: everything so gets your emotions. And also the next thing
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Speaker 2: is your God. A lot of people today I noticed
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Speaker 2: they are depressed, and one of the reasons is because
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Speaker 2: there is a problem with your God. There is a
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Speaker 2: god brain connection and maybe if you if you just
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Speaker 2: take care of your God, rebuild your your your good bacterias,
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Speaker 2: and and then you can improve very much improve your mood.
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Speaker 2: But this is all connected, and this is all person dependent.
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Speaker 2: So that's why here in the book there are so
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Speaker 2: many different things, and then you can choose your way
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Speaker 2: and you can. The guidance is also extremely important, so
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Speaker 2: I invite you to get in touch with us, because
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Speaker 2: it is like climbing mont Everest. Can you go to
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Speaker 2: the top without the guide? Yes, probably you can, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, but mostly most people wouldn't do it. Most
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Speaker 2: people will turn back and go back and never reach
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Speaker 2: their goals. So having a support system. It's extremely important.
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Speaker 1: My guest is doctor Grazina Pajuna and her book Biohacking
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Speaker 1: Away to a better You look and feel better than
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Speaker 1: you did ten years ago. Doctor Projunan, please share with
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Speaker 1: her listeners where they can get your book and find
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Speaker 1: out more about you and your work.
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Speaker 2: Well. The book is on Amazon, so if you like
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Speaker 2: to go there and just Google, just put my name
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Speaker 2: on the title of the book, you can get it.
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Speaker 2: And also if you like to get more information about
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Speaker 2: our h reversing system, you may go to h Reversing
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Speaker 2: Secret Hreversingsecret dot com and you can get a lot
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Speaker 2: of information and also possibility to book a call a
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Speaker 2: short discovery call with me or somebody from my team.
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week doctor Grozina Pajunen.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about her book Biohacking Away to a better
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Speaker 1: You look and feel better than you did ten years ago.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Pujunan, what are the biggest misconceptions about aging and
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Speaker 1: how can biohacking change that narrative?
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Speaker 2: Huh, very good question. And people think a lot of
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Speaker 2: people that we cannot reverse the age and that when
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Speaker 2: we were and I was thinking the same way. As
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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I remember when I turned sixty.
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Speaker 2: I was always running in the morning. But when I
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Speaker 2: turned sixty, my hips were starting blocking me. And I said,
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Speaker 2: oh I cannot run anymore. But who cares? You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm sixty, so that's normal right. Well, now at seventy,
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Speaker 2: I'm actually being seventy for this year, I can run.
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Speaker 2: I can do whatever I want. It's not true that
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Speaker 2: you cannot reverse your age. As a matter of fact.
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Speaker 2: That is a way to test it. They are biomarkers
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Speaker 2: which they take your blood test and you can test
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Speaker 2: your age. There are also scale and the scale is
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Speaker 2: you know at home, I don't know how rely is
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Speaker 2: the scale, but biomarkers are very reliable. So in my
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Speaker 2: case is the book is reversed fifteen years so and
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Speaker 2: on the scale actually it's twenty years, but it's so.
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Speaker 2: This is what is really important that you understand. There
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Speaker 2: is chronological age, and there is biological age, and chronological
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Speaker 2: age there is nothing you can do about it. You
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Speaker 2: are I am seventy three, I will be seventy four
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Speaker 2: this year, and there is nothing I can do about it. However,
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Speaker 2: biological age is in your hands. You can reverse it,
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Speaker 2: and I have seen it many many times, and everybody
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Speaker 2: can do it. But it requires work and discipline. So
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Speaker 2: ask yourself, are you willing to work and put yourself
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Speaker 2: under certain the program so that you have some goal
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Speaker 2: to achieve and you're working towards that goal to finally
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Speaker 2: reverse your age ten to twelve years or or more.
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Speaker 2: And this is actually not that difficult because the only
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Speaker 2: thing what we have to do is to work on
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Speaker 2: our habits. And you cannot obviously change your habits all
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Speaker 2: of them at the same time, so you work in steps.
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Speaker 2: You can put yourself a goal like, for example, I
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Speaker 2: change my eating habits these months and just work on
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Speaker 2: it and track it and the next month you you
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Speaker 2: change your sleeping habits and maybe the other areas. But
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Speaker 2: everybody can do it. So this was one misconception. The
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Speaker 2: second one is well, if I have already on bone,
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Speaker 2: then I cannot rebuild my joints. That's another misconception because
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Speaker 2: I've seen many of my customers that did. Because what
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Speaker 2: happens is we are losing hyuronic acid and collagen and
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Speaker 2: all these others, so we have the generation of connective tissue.
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Speaker 2: Like I said before, so one of the components is
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Speaker 2: hyluronic acid. And yes, most of the products on the
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Speaker 2: market that have hyuronic acid, including the creams, they have
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Speaker 2: two large moracure for our body to be absorbed to
29:58
Speaker 2: being able to absorb. Even that what the doctors inject
30:02
Speaker 2: in the joints have huge molecule and its acts as
30:06
Speaker 2: a filler. It's not going to rebuild. So once you
30:11
Speaker 2: get the product like the Skeldon Hydroonic Acid Matrix that
30:17
Speaker 2: has optimized size of the molecule that is ninety five
30:21
Speaker 2: to ninety eight percent absorbable, that you get it from
30:24
Speaker 2: under your tongue to your body, then you can finally
30:29
Speaker 2: start rebuilding it and what it means. It means that
30:32
Speaker 2: you start rebuilding snovia fluid sinova fluid in your joints.
30:39
Speaker 2: And this is critical because it's like oil in your car,
30:45
Speaker 2: so you cannot drive your car without an oil at
30:49
Speaker 2: least you don't go too far. So that's the one
30:52
Speaker 2: thing which is very important. And because there is optimized
30:56
Speaker 2: size of the molecule, that is what doctor Brady was
30:59
Speaker 2: teaching me. He was, as I said before, orthopedic professor
31:04
Speaker 2: and also surgeon, and he performed over nine thousand surgeries
31:09
Speaker 2: and he told me, oh, there always there is a
31:12
Speaker 2: little bit of the cartridge left in every single joint.
31:18
Speaker 2: So what happens once we get that snovia fluid back
31:22
Speaker 2: and there is the optimizize of the molecule, it can
31:26
Speaker 2: insert and start rebuilding the body. So the molecules of
31:31
Speaker 2: the cartridge are starting to duplicate. And this is a
31:36
Speaker 2: longer process, but this is something that you may start
31:40
Speaker 2: working on, but it has to be in conjunction with
31:46
Speaker 2: the movement that you know, so you we do it altogether.
31:52
Speaker 2: So this is the second misconception. The third misconception is
32:00
Speaker 2: probably that about the skin that once you when you
32:05
Speaker 2: are older, then you need to have a lot of wrinkles. Well,
32:09
Speaker 2: that's also not true. And that your wrinkles you have
32:14
Speaker 2: to get plastic surgery or you have to do some
32:19
Speaker 2: botox injections to really get rid of those wrinkles. That's
32:23
Speaker 2: also not true. If I could show you pictures of
32:27
Speaker 2: people who in three months complete transformation. Actually I was
32:34
Speaker 2: working with one celebrity and her husband thought that she
32:38
Speaker 2: had plastic surgery done in three months after the after
32:43
Speaker 2: she started working with me. So yes, you can, but
32:48
Speaker 2: you have to the other misconception is that you need
32:52
Speaker 2: expensive creams to put thousands of dollars screams to put
32:57
Speaker 2: on your face. Now, remember you rebuild your body from
33:02
Speaker 2: inside out. And now if you still want to put
33:06
Speaker 2: the creams, that's perfect, But this is nothing that important
33:12
Speaker 2: can change. You know, be substitute rebuilding the body from
33:17
Speaker 2: inside out and also drinking water. Next thing is you
33:25
Speaker 2: have to drink a lot of water, and that's enough
33:28
Speaker 2: to hydrate your body. Well, drinking a lot of water
33:32
Speaker 2: is critical. Absolutely. However, you have to understand that collagen
33:38
Speaker 2: hyaluronic acid is dropping about ten to fifteen percent each
33:44
Speaker 2: ten years. So we are drying out. So at age
33:48
Speaker 2: sixty or so, we almost don't have that hyaluronic acid
33:52
Speaker 2: in our bodies anymore. And each molecule of hyaluronic acid
33:58
Speaker 2: holds up to one towel percent of water. So what
34:02
Speaker 2: it means it's acting like a sponge. So if you
34:06
Speaker 2: do not have that hyaluronic acid anymore, you drink your water,
34:10
Speaker 2: this just goes right through you. So we need this
34:14
Speaker 2: hyaluronic acid to hydrate our body, and this is very
34:18
Speaker 2: very important. The next misconception is, Okay, I'm taking that
34:23
Speaker 2: powder collagen so I can rebuild my body. Well, I
34:28
Speaker 2: have bad news for you. Most powder collagens have to
34:32
Speaker 2: be digested. If they have to be digested, they go
34:37
Speaker 2: through they are going to be destroyed in your stomach
34:42
Speaker 2: by stomach acids and they are not not going to work.
34:48
Speaker 2: And also the liquid collagens which are much higher, a
34:54
Speaker 2: much higher, much better, but still if they are optimized
35:01
Speaker 2: of course molecules, then they are still only collagen. So
35:08
Speaker 2: this is like if I ask you, can you bake
35:11
Speaker 2: a cake with just flour, you know, most people say
35:17
Speaker 2: no because we need all the ingredients. And it is
35:20
Speaker 2: the same here. In order to rebuild your body, you
35:24
Speaker 2: have to have all the ingredients which are collagen, hyduronic acid,
35:30
Speaker 2: android itself and other glycominoglycoms. Now there is also misconceptions. Okay,
35:37
Speaker 2: so I go and buy all these ingredients and make
35:41
Speaker 2: a mixture and that will be working for me. No,
35:47
Speaker 2: because always if the nature have done a mixture. And
35:53
Speaker 2: this is what I'm talking about, is molecule that has
35:58
Speaker 2: been created by nature. It's from nature natural, so this
36:04
Speaker 2: nature never can be improved by us. Nature is always
36:11
Speaker 2: the best. So you have something that comes from nature
36:16
Speaker 2: that has exactly the same you know, the same components
36:24
Speaker 2: as in our bodies and especially in our cartridge, in
36:29
Speaker 2: our joints, so our body understand it and the optimizaze
36:35
Speaker 2: of the molecule because from nature you can't get it
36:38
Speaker 2: back from food. Because everything like collagen hydronic acid has
36:44
Speaker 2: two large molecules, our body cannot absorb it. So this
36:50
Speaker 2: is this is all misconception, and this is all what
36:55
Speaker 2: people what I notice they do not understand, but especially
37:00
Speaker 2: about collagen, that only collagen is is effective. It's better
37:05
Speaker 2: than nothing if it's a good one, but it's not
37:09
Speaker 2: as effective if you have something that is bioidentical with
37:14
Speaker 2: your body. Your body understands it as its own and
37:18
Speaker 2: it's able to absorb it. You sepurate your body with it,
37:23
Speaker 2: and then the body takes over and puts in places
37:27
Speaker 2: where it's the most needed.
37:31
Speaker 1: Please tell us about your patented formula and what makes
37:33
Speaker 1: us unique.
37:35
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying that this patented formula is.
37:43
Speaker 2: Which is unique is that it has all the components
37:49
Speaker 2: with it, which is bioidentical to everybody. And you take it,
37:53
Speaker 2: you drink it, and it comes from under your tongue
37:58
Speaker 2: and it gets to your cells, and then you saturate
38:03
Speaker 2: and the body is using it whatever it needs. So
38:06
Speaker 2: for example, sometimes people come to me and they say, oh,
38:10
Speaker 2: I have a pain in my knee, and I tell
38:14
Speaker 2: them what to do. We set up all system, because
38:17
Speaker 2: all system it is. I'm talking here only about the drink,
38:22
Speaker 2: but this is combination with all the other stuffs which
38:26
Speaker 2: is in the book right, like a nutrition, like exercise
38:32
Speaker 2: and so on, because it's all together. However, sometimes you know,
38:39
Speaker 2: we have these people who come to me and all
38:42
Speaker 2: have problems with me, and then after one month they
38:45
Speaker 2: called me and they said, oh my god, that was
38:49
Speaker 2: that only my knee was hurting. Now I all my
38:54
Speaker 2: joints hurt because it's putting that snovia fluid to all
39:01
Speaker 2: joints which are needed, and then there are ligaments on
39:05
Speaker 2: the side and they stretch. So this is what may
39:09
Speaker 2: hurt even more at the beginning. That at the beginning
39:14
Speaker 2: then was just you know, without that system, and.
39:21
Speaker 1: How does your patented formula help people avoid joint replacements
39:25
Speaker 1: and live pain free?
39:27
Speaker 2: Because the same what happened with my husband when he started,
39:34
Speaker 2: he had the problem, as I said at the beginning,
39:36
Speaker 2: was his shoulder. So this is just one example. I
39:39
Speaker 2: have many other which I can tell you. So he
39:44
Speaker 2: started that system and he was already eating correctly, he
39:50
Speaker 2: was already exercising, he was already sleeping, so all the
39:54
Speaker 2: other aspects were correct, but this one was that he's
40:00
Speaker 2: sinovia fluid right out. So we started rebuilding it. So
40:05
Speaker 2: the first months he didn't feel anything. The second month
40:12
Speaker 2: he his discomfort and pain increased drastically, but he always exercised.
40:22
Speaker 2: He went through this the right exercises critical not to
40:29
Speaker 2: go too much. But that's why we have to stay
40:32
Speaker 2: in touch. At the beginning, so he was just moving
40:37
Speaker 2: it right all the time moving because it's like putting
40:40
Speaker 2: oil to the machine, but you still need to turn
40:43
Speaker 2: it okay. And then after this next month, the third month,
40:51
Speaker 2: suddenly he called me to the kitchen and he said,
40:54
Speaker 2: oh my god, look I take milk out of refrigerator
40:59
Speaker 2: with this RM. So his arm started to move. A
41:03
Speaker 2: few months later he took He said to me, this
41:11
Speaker 2: is amazing. I feel like I have brand new shoulder.
41:15
Speaker 2: That was fourteen years ago till today he has a
41:19
Speaker 2: brand new shoulder. I have another guy who was a
41:24
Speaker 2: Kirk from Canada. He was his passion was to weightlifting
41:32
Speaker 2: and he was doing competition and he had such a
41:36
Speaker 2: problem as his shoulder that he couldn't even keep a
41:40
Speaker 2: glass of water in his hand. The doctor said, well, Kirk,
41:44
Speaker 2: you have no chance. You have to just quit your
41:47
Speaker 2: gym because that shoulder is absolutely too damaged. So he
41:53
Speaker 2: came to us and he said can you help us?
41:56
Speaker 2: And we say, well we try. Let's see, let's put
41:59
Speaker 2: it on the program. So he started the program and
42:05
Speaker 2: guess what in eight months? Eight months it took him
42:10
Speaker 2: and he not only started lifting three hundred and fifty pounds,
42:17
Speaker 2: but he broke a word record in his age group.
42:22
Speaker 2: So he was so happy. My husband when he noticed
42:26
Speaker 2: with the shoulder, he actually came to me and he said, listen,
42:31
Speaker 2: you are a scientists, so look into that because that
42:36
Speaker 2: what happened to me is a pure miracle, and we
42:39
Speaker 2: have obligation to help people. So what I did. I
42:44
Speaker 2: pull up all the clinical studies because they are thirty
42:47
Speaker 2: seven clinical studies. I examined those clinical studies and I said,
42:53
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is phenomenal. So that was fourteen
42:57
Speaker 2: years ago, and our system evolved and became better and
43:02
Speaker 2: better and better, and we have more and more phenomenal
43:05
Speaker 2: results with people. We have another person, and that was
43:10
Speaker 2: in Poland. That was a girl coming from actually shed.
43:15
Speaker 2: She came all the way from stretching towdself, which is
43:19
Speaker 2: about three hundred kilometers to say thank you because she
43:24
Speaker 2: was fifty years old and she was on disability and
43:28
Speaker 2: the doctors, you know, she was where he was, doctors,
43:33
Speaker 2: orthopedic professors and so on for several years because of
43:38
Speaker 2: her knee problems and she was already having they put
43:43
Speaker 2: her through eleven orthopedic surgeries on full anasthisia. So the
43:50
Speaker 2: last surgery she told you know that she woke up
43:55
Speaker 2: in a hospital and her hair were laying on the pillow.
44:00
Speaker 2: She lost her hair. She was looking and feeling and
44:05
Speaker 2: not so good, and and always there were surgeries. After
44:10
Speaker 2: the surgeries, she always felt a little better at the beginning,
44:14
Speaker 2: but the discomfort came back. And finally she started working
44:19
Speaker 2: with us. And again it took her eight months, but
44:24
Speaker 2: she came to us and I was giving I was
44:29
Speaker 2: giving lecture at the time she grabbed the microphone. She said,
44:32
Speaker 2: I want to share the story. And she shared the
44:35
Speaker 2: story like she was able to not only come go
44:41
Speaker 2: back to work, but also she was running stairs two
44:46
Speaker 2: story stairs in order to because that was involved in
44:50
Speaker 2: her work, and she was she has no discomfort. So
44:56
Speaker 2: it's amazing. We also can have pro program for pets,
45:02
Speaker 2: you know, because sometimes people say, oh, this is just
45:05
Speaker 2: a placebo effect, and I said, no, look for the
45:09
Speaker 2: pets who cannot go the stairs, who is suffering, who
45:13
Speaker 2: can drags his legs and after eleven weeks he can
45:18
Speaker 2: run again. So the most important what you guys have
45:23
Speaker 2: to understand is the body has ability to rebuild itself.
45:31
Speaker 2: It just needs right environment and write conditions. And this
45:38
Speaker 2: is something which for me was very very important and critical.
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46:56
Speaker 1: Grazina Patchunan. We're talking about her book Bio, A Way
47:00
Speaker 1: to a better You look and feel better than you
47:03
Speaker 1: did ten years ago. Doctor Projuna, can you explain what
47:09
Speaker 1: the body transformation system is and how it supports healthy
47:13
Speaker 1: weight loss and gut health.
47:16
Speaker 2: About the transformation system is working on not only losing weight,
47:29
Speaker 2: but on losing weight in the right places, so shaping
47:37
Speaker 2: your body, not starting looking older when you lose weight.
47:45
Speaker 2: And first of all, also if somebody has a problem
47:51
Speaker 2: insulin resistance, so that you can in a natural way
47:57
Speaker 2: start producing your bodies producing the hormone g lp one.
48:05
Speaker 2: And but that's one thing. The other thing is this
48:11
Speaker 2: because this hormone and the special bacteria in your gut
48:18
Speaker 2: will help you to not to feel hungry so much,
48:26
Speaker 2: and at the same time it will regularate your sugar
48:31
Speaker 2: level in your body. But what is important that at
48:38
Speaker 2: the same time we can rebuild a muscle tone and
48:45
Speaker 2: tighten the skin so that you lose the play the
48:51
Speaker 2: fat and the the the weight in somewhere like stomach,
48:58
Speaker 2: upper legs, but don't maybe in the breast, you don't
49:03
Speaker 2: lose your your face and so on, so you're starting
49:08
Speaker 2: looking younger instead of like a lot of systems, when
49:14
Speaker 2: you lose weight, you start looking older because of the
49:20
Speaker 2: sugging schein. So this is the system now rebuilding the
49:29
Speaker 2: So this is the entire system. But also it's connected
49:34
Speaker 2: with regular so the eating schedule. So you eat low
49:42
Speaker 2: glass saving food but only three times a day. So
49:48
Speaker 2: that means you you decide that you will eat only
49:53
Speaker 2: breakfast at that hour, lunch at that hour, and dinner
49:59
Speaker 2: at that hour. The food is low glassmic you are
50:04
Speaker 2: not going to be hungry, but you do not eat
50:09
Speaker 2: anything in between. No snacks, no bars, no chips. Right,
50:17
Speaker 2: so this is some importance. So you take a notebook
50:21
Speaker 2: and you write what time you eat, what you eat.
50:24
Speaker 2: That's the best way to follow up. And also measurements.
50:29
Speaker 2: You measure, you measure your neck, you measure your breast,
50:33
Speaker 2: you measure your waist, you measure your legs and someone
50:38
Speaker 2: so you see the progress. So every week you can
50:43
Speaker 2: see the progress and we can meet and talk about it.
50:48
Speaker 2: How you can how you can change that or adjusted
50:53
Speaker 2: in order to achieve the performance what you want. Of course,
50:59
Speaker 2: that cannot be done without some movements. And again you
51:05
Speaker 2: don't have to go to gym for two hours a day.
51:09
Speaker 2: It's enough if you have let's say a cliptech at
51:12
Speaker 2: home and you do it twenty minutes a day, or
51:16
Speaker 2: you go for a walk maybe one hour a day
51:20
Speaker 2: after dinner or maybe during the day, or whatever you choose,
51:26
Speaker 2: and something the best thing to choose is something that
51:30
Speaker 2: you enjoy, something that you enjoy whatever movement. Maybe you
51:34
Speaker 2: like to go dancing, you know, whatever you like, you
51:40
Speaker 2: but you need some type of movement.
51:43
Speaker 1: Or someone knew to biohacking, what's the first step they
51:47
Speaker 1: should take to start their journey.
51:51
Speaker 2: Well, I would suggest that you get your book in
51:56
Speaker 2: my book, so that he knows what is what are
52:00
Speaker 2: the what chapters are there to work on and to
52:07
Speaker 2: see which one is okay, which one you can improve
52:13
Speaker 2: or you want to improve. And I would also suggest
52:18
Speaker 2: that you just schedule a short call with us, because
52:24
Speaker 2: then we can guide you in the right direction. And
52:29
Speaker 2: we are focusing on the results. We love people having
52:35
Speaker 2: achieving their results. So that's how we work. We ask
52:40
Speaker 2: you what is your goal, and we show you how
52:44
Speaker 2: to get what is required for you to do to
52:48
Speaker 2: get to that goal, and then we work together so
52:52
Speaker 2: that you really achieve that goal and of course, you
52:57
Speaker 2: need to show up. You need to have discipline. It's
53:02
Speaker 2: not like you can have aspiren and sit on the sofa.
53:05
Speaker 2: It does nuts and expect, you know, for the best.
53:11
Speaker 2: This is a system that requires this discipline. But at
53:17
Speaker 2: least you will have a roadmap and you will have
53:20
Speaker 2: a guidance to achieve your goal.
53:24
Speaker 1: Earlier in the interview, you mentioned the word excuse me.
53:27
Speaker 1: Earlier in the interview, you mentioned the word intention. That's
53:31
Speaker 1: really what this is about, isn't it.
53:33
Speaker 2: It is absolutely you need to know that this is
53:36
Speaker 2: what you want. Because if you say I have enough
53:41
Speaker 2: of that life that I am not feeling good, and
53:45
Speaker 2: a lot of people also will get out of medication.
53:49
Speaker 2: But it's I'm not advising you to stop it because
53:53
Speaker 2: it's it's a process, right however you may want. I
53:59
Speaker 2: want to feel good. I want to be eighty years old,
54:03
Speaker 2: traveling the world, dancing and enjoying this life, you know,
54:08
Speaker 2: and not get into the statistics because statistics is very depressing.
54:14
Speaker 2: So we want to change that statistic all together. And
54:19
Speaker 2: you will be also a role model for others. They say, wow,
54:23
Speaker 2: what happened to you? I want the same thing, and
54:26
Speaker 2: that's our goal, you know, to increase the awareness so
54:30
Speaker 2: that everybody can feel great and we can enjoy this
54:35
Speaker 2: beautiful life.
54:36
Speaker 1: Here my guest, doctor Grozina Patuna and her book Biohacking
54:41
Speaker 1: A Way to better you look and feel better than
54:44
Speaker 1: you did ten years ago. Doctor Projuna, one more time,
54:48
Speaker 1: please share with our listeners whether you get your book
54:50
Speaker 1: and find out more about you and all this amazing work.
54:54
Speaker 2: Well, the most important is go to Amazon and my
54:58
Speaker 2: book is on on Amazon, so you can get it.
55:03
Speaker 2: And then also you can schedule a call with us.
55:09
Speaker 2: And also our system is reviewed at the website which
55:14
Speaker 2: is age Reversingsecret dot com h Reversingsecret dot com, so
55:21
Speaker 2: you will see more of the our system, summary of
55:28
Speaker 2: our system. And also at the very end you will
55:33
Speaker 2: be able to book a call with us. And I
55:36
Speaker 2: would advise you to do it at least for discovery
55:40
Speaker 2: and see if this is something for you or not.
55:43
Speaker 2: But if you decide if you have an intention to
55:47
Speaker 2: achieve it to look and feel better than ten years ago,
55:51
Speaker 2: I would advise you to just book a discovery call
55:55
Speaker 2: and see.
55:57
Speaker 1: Doctor Progina, thank you so much for joining us and
55:59
Speaker 1: sharing this amazing work.
56:02
Speaker 2: It was my pleasure. It was my pleasure. Thank you
56:05
Speaker 2: so much, and thank.
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