Katie Hobbs Has a Debate Problem (Audio)

Light Beer Dark Money · Sep 2, 2026 · 1m

Katie Hobbs has declined to debate Andy Biggs, and Sean and Chris think that decision raises a bigger question about what voters should expect from candidates asking to lead the state.

After watching Democratic Secretary of State Adrian Fontes and Republican challenger Alexander Kolodin actually sit down together on Arizona PBS, they turn to the governor’s race and ask why Arizona voters won’t get the same opportunity. They also get into the campaign money surrounding Hobbs and why Sean argues she is “hiding behind dark money” rather than facing Biggs on a debate stage.

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