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  Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns playing the Bears, the Colts and the
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  Speaker 1: Sea Hawks, the Panthers and the Saints. Those are three games.
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  Speaker 1: Art the Caesar is gonna tell us how to bet.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear them laughing in the background. That's Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: mocked that up, Art the Redskins. Your laughter when I
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  Speaker 1: said that, Oh class, we are not editing. This show
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  Speaker 1: is part of the lore. Part of the lore of
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  Speaker 1: the show known as the best betting show ever, Art
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  Speaker 1: the Caesar with us, Joe and Airy. I might have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of dementia setting and or I did
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  Speaker 1: that purposely? Who knows?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Did I do it purposely?
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  Speaker 3: No chance?
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  Speaker 1: No, Redskins, Giants, Packers, Broncos, Lines, Ran, Raiders, Eagles. Oh my,
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's start right there, bro, Redskins and the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: This is a game that everyone is interested in. Tell
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  Speaker 1: us how are are people betting it?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you get to this point of the season, right Prez,
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  Speaker 4: where there are games that really don't mean much in
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  Speaker 4: the standings, but are gonna still have interest with betters.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Giants were one and a half point home favorite.
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  Speaker 3: They've now ticked up the two.
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  Speaker 4: The real move here Sharp wise was over money forty
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  Speaker 4: five and a half.
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  Speaker 3: We're now forty seven to the over in that game.
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  Speaker 4: A game that we briefly touched on yesterday, Packers at Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: We opened Packers one and a half. It's now two
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  Speaker 4: and a half. That was sharp money. Totals gone up
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  Speaker 4: from forty one and a half to forty three and
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  Speaker 4: a half for us. That was not sharp money. That's
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  Speaker 4: just us moving with the market. Little bit of bets
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  Speaker 4: here and there on the over, but nothing that it
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  Speaker 4: was like, Oh it's sharp, we really got to move.
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  Speaker 4: We're just kind of catching up with the market on
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  Speaker 4: that number. At Rams, this is a excellent game. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, we open Rams four and a half. Sharp's
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  Speaker 4: played four and a half and they laid five and
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  Speaker 4: a half. We're now six on the RAMS. I think
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  Speaker 4: the Rams are also gonna be very popular in the
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  Speaker 4: money line parlays and the teasers. Obviously, the total has
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  Speaker 4: seen a big jump total of fifty two and a
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  Speaker 4: half on an opener. We're now fifty five on that game.
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  Speaker 4: How high do we get? Is this the top of
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  Speaker 4: the market. This is something we always talk about with
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  Speaker 4: these games. This is obviously a game that probably should
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  Speaker 4: see a lot of points, So no shock that it's
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  Speaker 4: one of the highest totals, if not the highest total
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  Speaker 4: we've seen on the board all year. And the Raiders
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  Speaker 4: Eagles now before the Monday night game, you know, Eagles
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  Speaker 4: were twelve and a half thirteen on our look ahead.
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  Speaker 4: After the Monday night game, they've been downgraded a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: We reopened Philly ten and a half, totals dropped from
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  Speaker 4: thirty eight and a half to thirty seven and a
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  Speaker 4: half off sharp money.
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  Speaker 2: So kind of a unique situation, sweet art, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we got a couple of ten win teams that are
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  Speaker 2: getting points, Like, how does that happen? Here? Are we
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  Speaker 2: anticipating and I'm wondering our games like this? Is there
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  Speaker 2: a clear public you know, pros versus Joe's line drawn
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  Speaker 2: in the sand with the public's like, how how is
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  Speaker 2: Denver getting points at home with ten wins? How are
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots or is it? Is it pretty much everyone
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  Speaker 2: in agreement here that Denver they're waiting for the shoe
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  Speaker 2: to drop, and it's probably coming.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Denver shoe, as far as the betters go,
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  Speaker 4: they've been waiting. It's almost like the Bears they were
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  Speaker 4: waiting for the Bears for the shoe to drop there. Now,
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  Speaker 4: you know, depending on what you got that number at
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  Speaker 4: last week, you could have pushed it with the Bears
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  Speaker 4: because there were plenty of sevens out there.
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  Speaker 3: But Denver is in that unique situation. And we talked
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  Speaker 3: about this yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Green Bay not only public, but green Bay very popular
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  Speaker 4: with sharps. Denver not popular with the public and not
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  Speaker 4: popular with sharps. That's why you've seen that. And you
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  Speaker 4: know green Bay and Buffalo and well, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 4: touch on the Buffalo game later in the week, but
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  Speaker 4: that's another one where they're now a favorite. It was
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  Speaker 4: basically pick now they're minus one, minus one and a
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  Speaker 4: half Buffalo being favored over New England that I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to say New England is not public or not sharp.
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  Speaker 4: They're definitely more so on the better's minds than Denver.
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  Speaker 4: But Buffalo falls into the same category almost like Green Bay,
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  Speaker 4: where the public loves to load up on Buffalo. So
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  Speaker 4: it's no shock that those teams are favored the way
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  Speaker 4: they are.
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  Speaker 1: You know, art to me and listen, I want to
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  Speaker 1: remain inside of this pocket or SEC talk NFL. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not around tomorrow or Friday, Brian Power hosting. I honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I mean here I sit feeling like the KC Chargers
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  Speaker 1: line is the most wrong or the wrongest, or the
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  Speaker 1: line that stands out as the strangest of all, and
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  Speaker 1: yet I can't seem to pull the trigger on the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: That's the most shocking line to me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't disagree, But that also goes back to the
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  Speaker 4: public still loves Kansas City. I don't know why. I
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  Speaker 4: don't now they've shoved Kansas City down our throats for
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  Speaker 4: the last five years. They're always on prime time. We
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  Speaker 4: know all the players, we know the coach, we know everything,
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  Speaker 4: and the Chargers are a little boring. Quarterbacks hurt, coachesn't likeable.
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  Speaker 4: There's like a lot of things about the Chargers where
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  Speaker 4: people don't want to bet the Chargers, but they still
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  Speaker 4: are like, oh no, well, if the Chiefs went out,
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  Speaker 4: they got a shot.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you, Prez. How could you lay over a
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  Speaker 3: field goal.
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  Speaker 4: Right now in a division game? I know it's at
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  Speaker 4: home with the Chiefs. I just don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how sorry, Joe, And I'll ask you this question,
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  Speaker 1: how much better is Houston than the Chargers that Houston
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  Speaker 1: can be plus three and a half three, go into
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  Speaker 1: KC and beat them and the Chargers can't.
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  Speaker 2: I A lot of this, I think still has to
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  Speaker 2: do with the idea that the excuse with the Chiefs
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  Speaker 2: will continue as long as there is an excuse or
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  Speaker 2: people perceive there be an excuse, in this case, the
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  Speaker 2: decimated offensive line. If there is any hope that those
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  Speaker 2: guys are coming back this week, and we already know
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  Speaker 2: the backups to the backups are hurt on the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: offensive line, you're gonna get a lot of cheat. People
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  Speaker 2: are gonna look for a reason and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's why they sucked. So yeah, no, they're gonna be
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  Speaker 2: better now. And I don't know how that's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: change overnight or in one season either. It feels like
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  Speaker 2: as long as Kansas City has my homes and Andy
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  Speaker 2: Reid and people are gonna be like, yeah, no, this
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  Speaker 2: is just temporary, they're gonna flip. They're doing the same
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  Speaker 2: crap with the Eagles art. I mean, everyone keeps thinking
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  Speaker 2: in week fourteen or fifteen, they're gonna flip a switch
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  Speaker 2: and the offense is gonna be fixed.
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  Speaker 1: It's not yeap Artle, let's stay in the NFL real quick, guys,
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  Speaker 1: show ahead of us. Our parlay of the day, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to do fade or not. The top teams in
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  Speaker 1: each division in the NFL. We got our NFL bests,
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  Speaker 1: college basketball, and the rundowns. At the end of the show, Art,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw some games at you. Eighty nine percent
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  Speaker 1: of the money looks like it's coming in on Houston,
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight percent on Philadelphia. We got a ton of
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  Speaker 1: money on the over in the Baltimore game, a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money on the over in the Washington Giants game.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready alluded to that, a ton of money on
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  Speaker 1: the under in the Indianapolis Seattle game, and a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people running to the window to bet the
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. Anything you want to discuss
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  Speaker 1: in any of those games, anything stand out there.
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  Speaker 2: Well before you do that, Art, I'm glad you brought
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  Speaker 2: up the percentages there, Prez, because I heard I was
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  Speaker 2: talking to somebody yesterday and they were telling me that
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  Speaker 2: I guess through the first fourteen weeks. Teams that have
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  Speaker 2: been getting at least sixty percent of the tickets are
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  Speaker 2: getting their ass handed to thirty seven percent through forty weeks.
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  Speaker 2: So the teams that are like, I'm just trend off
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  Speaker 2: and off, trend off fifty and eighty four against the
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  Speaker 2: number are through thirteen weeks. Anybody getting sixty percent or
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  Speaker 2: more of the tickets. I mean, my goodness, that's got
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  Speaker 2: that's just your guys are cleaning house on those games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny with those ticket counts. I always want
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  Speaker 4: to let people know you could book a game and
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  Speaker 4: you can have let's just use a round number. You
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  Speaker 4: get one hundred tickets on a team, but it could
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  Speaker 4: be all public tickets, right, you know, you could have
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  Speaker 4: five tickets on the other side, but they're from your
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  Speaker 4: five sharpest accounts, So it's sometimes a little those could
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  Speaker 4: be misleading, you know. And I'm pres just to touch
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  Speaker 4: on one that you hit that top one. The Houston
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  Speaker 4: money we had talked about yesterday, where Arizona is a
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  Speaker 4: complete fade now and you know Houston at nine and
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  Speaker 4: a half, going to tag going to ten and a half,
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  Speaker 4: just going through the roof here, I mean, there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be no, No one's gonna run in the window to
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  Speaker 4: bet Arizona. So there are some games where it does align,
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  Speaker 4: but I think a lot of times you gotta remember
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  Speaker 4: the respected accounts are going to be minis school compared
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  Speaker 4: to the public accounts. So you could get so many
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  Speaker 4: games where the public just lines up on one team
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, look, how skewed this is.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, always keep at art.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I just real quick. Baltimore, we ought money coming
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  Speaker 1: in on the over. That makes sense, but man, people
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  Speaker 1: are betting Baltimore, right. Is there gonna be a three
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  Speaker 1: on tap?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I could see it.
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  Speaker 4: Baltimore is another team that still late in the season,
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  Speaker 4: the betters don't want to quit better still feel oh well,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna find their legs, they're gonna figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: And Baltimore falls under that category as one of those teams,
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  Speaker 4: like Joe said, like in Eagles, like the Chiefs, like
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  Speaker 4: we discussed, the betters almost feel like they're getting a
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  Speaker 4: discount on this, so let's load up on these low
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  Speaker 4: numbers and maybe we're ahead of the move.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Stroud has what three years now, he's
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  Speaker 2: been a league I think he has started forty six
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  Speaker 2: or forty seven games. Want to take a guess, is
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  Speaker 2: the biggest favorite he's ever been?
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  Speaker 1: Minus nine and a half.
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  Speaker 2: That's eight was his previous high against Tennessee. I think
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  Speaker 2: Land better. He is never as a starting quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL late this kind of number, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Does that give you a pause? Pres I mean that
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  Speaker 2: offense at Houston is so.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke about this game Joe on the NFL Presidential Address,
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  Speaker 1: which guys, that's up now live Where did you talk?
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  Speaker 1: Dot TV? Check it out. It's about eighteen minutes long.
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  Speaker 1: I take a part every game, and you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to figure out how do you bet this game?
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  Speaker 1: And I kind of made the analogy to the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Las Vegas game, because here we have we've lost Joe,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, the show.
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  Speaker 2: Is still going. But that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Here we have a scenario where two teams double digit favorites,
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  Speaker 1: neither of them can score. How do you attack a
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  Speaker 1: game like that? You know, I came up with the
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  Speaker 1: under team total or Arizona and the under team total
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  Speaker 1: a LATAs Vegas. That's sort of how I tackled those
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  Speaker 1: two games. I just didn't know how else to look
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  Speaker 1: at it. I certainly can't take Arizona and basically the
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  Speaker 1: way I said, okay, you know, can you see a
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  Speaker 1: twenty to three game here, or you know, seventeen to
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  Speaker 1: nine game and all of that sort of gets me
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  Speaker 1: to under and I would say those scores are I say,
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  Speaker 1: what happens in Arizona and Houston, give or take, will
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  Speaker 1: happen in Hiladelpa, Las Vegas. It's it's it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just unless it's defensive or special teams as Yeah, at
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  Speaker 2: which points that's it? You can't down on that. There's
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  Speaker 2: too much variance. Are one final one here? What I
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  Speaker 2: had this conversation this morning. I'm still trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: out how anybody has a line on this Seattle Indie
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  Speaker 2: game when we're not even sure who the hell the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback is going to be for the Colts. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: sound like Riley is going to go in this game.
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  Speaker 2: The only other quarterback they have on in the organization
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  Speaker 2: is Ripping And now they've signed of course, you know,
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  Speaker 2: forty four year old grandpa Philip Rivers. Does this If
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  Speaker 2: they announced that Rivers is going against Seattle, does this
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  Speaker 2: line go up does it go down? What about ripping?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what happened. I don't even know how. We're
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  Speaker 2: at thirteen and a half and we have no idea
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  Speaker 2: who's going to be under center.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, as I talked about yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: we open eleven on them. You know, we've had this
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  Speaker 4: conversation before. In the old days, you guys know this.
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  Speaker 3: You could keep a game off the board till game day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could and nobody.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody would say anything, Nobody would call you out. There
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  Speaker 4: was no social media, there was no you guys or cowards.
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  Speaker 3: Put a lineup. You could do it and it was respected.
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  Speaker 4: It was it was do you want to wait till
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  Speaker 4: Sunday morning to put a lineup? That's fine, you can't
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  Speaker 4: do that in this age. You have to put up
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  Speaker 4: which is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Like with you, where does that line go with?
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  Speaker 1: It's not about the fact that he's forty four, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: He's done when he was thirty nine. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's really bad.
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  Speaker 3: He was.
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  Speaker 4: But to answer your question, Joe, I think the perception
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  Speaker 4: of having a who's basically been on the couch for
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  Speaker 4: five years coaching its kids hasn't played as forty four
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  Speaker 4: years old. He goes in that line clearly goes up
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  Speaker 4: over fourteen past obviously at has to and I don't
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  Speaker 4: know will there be back at some point?
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  Speaker 1: Will there be blood?
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  Speaker 4: Better be the betters will look at it lowish total,
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  Speaker 4: they'll just run and try to play defense.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you might, but you have to go over.
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  Speaker 1: I got a bet. I got a bet Philip rivers
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  Speaker 1: over half a yard rushing.
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  Speaker 2: He could he could get tackled going forward and get
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  Speaker 2: two yards though. So that's that's a rough one there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be fascinated because Ripping. I think the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: If it's if Ripping gets an half and this is
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  Speaker 2: his ninth team in the NFL and in like five years,
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  Speaker 2: like it's going to four, it's going So do you
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  Speaker 2: grab it now? Do you lay to thirteen and a
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  Speaker 2: half now at Seattle? Because it feels like anybody who
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  Speaker 2: they this thing is going to be fourteen fifteen, sixteen points?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean probably, Like I said, you already missed
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  Speaker 4: a good number of you know, we opened eleven or
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  Speaker 4: eleven Monday morning, you know, and obviously saw sharp accounts
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  Speaker 4: say hey, this thing's gonna balloon, because I mean, even
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  Speaker 4: if it was Riley Leonard.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we've Ridley Leonard was hurt until we found
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  Speaker 2: out about Rivers. So you made eleven based upon Leonard
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  Speaker 2: being the started quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: This is gonna be an This is even going to
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  Speaker 2: be the greatest story in the history of the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Or It's gonna be the biggest train wreck. I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to see.
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  Speaker 1: It on fam minus eight hundred train wreck. It is art.
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  Speaker 1: The Seeds are joining us from the West Gate, Joveniria,
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence Pressman, this is the best betting show ever. Stay
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  Speaker 1: with us all the way to the end. We got
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: lots more our parlay of the day that we went yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: I think I won my leg No, we did.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest with you, pres it was the rare
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  Speaker 4: time we all lost.
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  Speaker 1: I lose my legs.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 3: Rare time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't even remember what I put out and
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  Speaker 1: people are like, how do you how do you not
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  Speaker 1: know this? Press? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no I did. No,
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  Speaker 1: I did put out Edmonton as a client player, which.
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  Speaker 3: He had the under and the stars.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, four three almost.
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  Speaker 3: With still rare time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm going with the over in the Florida
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  Speaker 1: Panthers game. Do I see it five and a half
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  Speaker 1: out there?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Of course at the two books, we could always count
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  Speaker 1: on over five and a half of me. Uh Florida,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Utah Art.
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  Speaker 4: This team is undefeated in college basketball, and overnight they
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: were a slight dog. Now they're a slight favorite at home.
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  Speaker 4: Wisconsin can be tricky. But give me the Nebraska at
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  Speaker 4: home money.
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  Speaker 5: Line, Joseph, You know a part of me really wants
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why the money is pouring in on
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  Speaker 5: the Lakers now up to seven and a half.
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  Speaker 2: In Swans here, but I mean, all right, I'll buy it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take the Lakers on the money line. But every
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: part of me wants to take the points in San
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Antonio here tonight. But I'll take the Lakers to advance
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  Speaker 2: at home on the money line.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, parlay of the day in the bag, It's time
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  Speaker 1: for fade or not made. We're gonna go through the
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  Speaker 1: top teams in each division. We're gonna start with the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots. They have Buffalo at home this week,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: then they are on the road playing Baltimore that Jets,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and they end at home against Miami. I think they're
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: a fade team. Now, I'm not gonna tell you that
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: they're not a good team. I just think that they're
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: overvalued in the market and I think they will regress
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking to bet against them. The Sunday Art.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, President. I think the line is telling.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I think a team who's said the type of year
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: they've had eleven and two obviously a reflection of the
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: schedule of Buffalo now being a favorite and should be
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: a favorite in the game. I definitely like Buffalo in
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: the game this week, but I think New England moving
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: forward with some of those teams Baltimore, who I don't
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: think that's you know, their team.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: You can kind of go against the Jets.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I know the Dolphins will played better, but New England
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: will get back on track.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But not this week, Joseph.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: They're part of a handful of teams that you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: you can only play the teams that are on your schedule.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I get it, but at some point, you know, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I think it starts with New England this week. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: think it starts with Denver. Yeah, you know you're gonna
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: have to do it against much better competition than what
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you've been doing it against. On a consistent basis. So
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: for now it's a holding pattern for me because it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: been that kind of screw in the AFC pens where
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you don't know, you just I think it's still anybody's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: game in the AFC. But I think we're gonna learn
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a lot over the next couple of weeks. And those
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: those great ten win teams but have played absolutely nobody.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: The Steelers, they're playing Miami at home on Monday Night,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: then they're on the road playing the Lions, the Browns,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: and they end hosting the Ravens. I am fading them
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in all four games.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Art, Wow, you and I aligned the same way here, Prez,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: especially on Monday night.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: They cannot be laying over threes. A Dolphine team has played.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: So much better, you know, I know the Dolphins aren't great,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: but you're gonna give me three and a half.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I'll take Miami all day.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And then Joe, guys, Tomlin is twenty two and five
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: on Monday night. Like every time we try to stick
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a fork in Tomlin they end up. It just drives
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: me absolutely lazy here, you know, not to mention they're
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: eleven and one straight up at home in Pittsburgh and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: it will be colder than it wasn't met live for Miami,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: so we expected to go into what you know, teams
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: with some wind and no and not to mention chan
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Is still I don't know if he's going or not.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Nobody seems to know if he's. If they can't run
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the ball, they're not winning that game. They're likely not whinning.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: They're not covering either. So Pittsburgh picked your spots, namely
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: when well, I don't know, especially when everyone wants to
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: stick a fork and Tomlin and to say that the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: season is over, that's probably when you want to bet him.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's their point, Joe. Let's talk about the Giants.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: The Jags. They're a double digit favorite minus twelve and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: a half hosting the Jets. Then they're on the road
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: playing the Broncos, the Colts, and they end with the Titans.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I think this team might be a bet on team.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna get to the window though
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: against the New York Jets, but why not? I mean
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: who I think Philip Rivers is starting with the Jets
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Richard Todd. Richard Todd, I think they signed Neil O'Donnell.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, President Listen, the Jags are one of those. For me,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: it's they're just kind of a stay away because, I
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: mean against the Jets so inconsistent. Who knows give him
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: credit there right in the playoff mix here, maybe can
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: win the division, but I would say far away from
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: this jetsam especially this week.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I can't lay almost two touchdowns, Joe.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's funny, press I said the biggest spread for CJ.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Stroud was eight prior to this game against Arizona. This
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: will be the biggest spread Tremor Lawrence in his career
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: has ever laid. He has never been a double digit
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: favorite like he is against the Jets or a bad thing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I think Fabio has laid a lot of spreads, Joe.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I just said, I.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Don't know that he's getting to get a lot of
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: too spreads in Jacksonville. Yeah he is.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's talk Broncos, Joe. I know you're gonna
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: fade them.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you now. We like this team is only
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: going to get better. I don't know what it is.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: They got a great coach, they seem to be able
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to get it done. And I mean this Sunday, the
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Packers are an overrated team. I don't know. I'm interested
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: in Denver Art.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. They fall into new like the New
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: England class.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: For me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I got to see them beat a really really good team.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: All their games seem to be tight. The fact that
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I'm getting green Bay under a field goal, I know
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: it's on the road until you can look at the
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: money line of green Bay.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I like green Bay in the game. I don't think
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Denver is a player, Joseph.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: You know, Denver at home I think is one thing.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Denver on the road continues to be a fade. But
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I've got to look at the number press because this
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: was interesting with bo Nicks being a dog here at home.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: You know, for all his faults, he doesn't get blown out.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I believe his six point teaser record is like twenty
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: six and three. It's some unbelievable number where yeah they
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: may not you know, but they cover in a big
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: way with them on a six point teaser might not
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: be the way to look at home with him getting
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: what one one and a half, now.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Know, there's still two and a halfs out ane and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a half, so I'm definitely going to be putting them
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: in a teaser as well. And I think, look, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: know it's not a long teaser, but doesn't Denver and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the Chargers sound like a decent teaser bet to you, guys.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: It's not terrible, it's not terrible. It's not terrible. But
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I mean, I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: think Denver getting eight and a half at home not
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a bad look.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: The Eagles are fascinating here, guys, because I think I've
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: isolated a way to bet them. And I'll tell you
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that in a sec they are hosting the Raiders on
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the road, playing the Commodores. Lionel Richie will be the lead.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Then they're in Buffalo and they end with the Commodores. Again.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think Lionel makes that last one.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: This is a team that does not need to win
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: out and I think the message that Philadelphia needs to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: send here is we can throw the ball. I think
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: their team total over interests me.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Art oh Man, you know, in all those games except
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: for the Buffalo game, they'll be nice size favorites. Obviously
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: a big favorite this week against the Raiders. Obviously for me,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I can't lay big numbers with them. Think there's value
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: on unders in their games because they're off their and
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: their d is really good. So and you know they
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: went to overtime this week and they under still hit.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: So I think there's still some value on their unders.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Joe, like running into a brick house, Press, I don't
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: think I think that is absolutely that is absolutely the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: best way to look at it. Press. I agree with
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you one hundred percent. Listen, even if if you're gonna
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: win games, forget about cover. You're gonna win games, you
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: gotta score points, right, And I think that's how you
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: correlate with Philadelphia. If you think they're gonna win some games,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: they're going over their team total. If you think, then
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: go And it happened again against the Chargers. I think
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that team total close twenty and a half. I had
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: them at twenty one and a half and it's still
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: they still didn't get there, so and they lost. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: think that correlates.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like this is a team
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that if they can stretch the field in the next
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: four games and show the teams are going to face
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs that they are not one dimensional, it
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: might open up that running game. And if it does,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that defense is good enough to win the Super Bowl.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that right now. So this team has
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to find a way to scare the other defenses. So yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: that's sort of how I'm looking at it now. The
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Packers have the Broncos this week, the Bears next week,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the Ravens the week after, and they end in Minnesota,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and I promise you Minnesota will want to beat them.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: This is not the easiest schedule out there. I know, Art,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you like this backer team and are looking to bet
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the moving forward. I'm not. I'm interested in the unders though,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I like Green Bay.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: You know, the quarterbacks still worris me a little bit,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: but I like the coach. I like the defense. They
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: can run the ball, So I still like Green Bay
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: in spots.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Joe two bets. You always want to make president. You're
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a big parlay guy right in the NFL. All right, well,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: here's a trend off for you. Trendof tad off. That's right.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur twenty one and four straight up in a
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: month of December. Sean McVeigh twenty seven and eleven straight
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: up in the month of December. Bet these guys on
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the money line Press in the month of December. Those
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: teams forget about the spreads. They win games in December
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: when it matters, and they've been doing it for a while.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about the Rams shortly, but
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Panthers will do them together. I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: won't give you their schedule. I like the Bucks this Thursday.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like the New Orleans Gate New Orleans game
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: was what I call a bottom out game, if you will.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are a bet on team moving forward,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: and I think Panthers are a fade art.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: The Bucks gotta get their guys back healthy. This has
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: been a theme with them all year. It feels like
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: they deal with a million injuries. But obviously on the
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: short week, it's a really bad Atlanta team. You have
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: to like Tampa on Thursday night football. I mean, that's
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: the only way to look.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Joe.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Who were the Panthers playing this week?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: The Panthers are playing a chip team at Saints. Yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: who's the favorite? Panthers minus two and a half if
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I recall, yep, minus two and a half.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, trend off the Panthers.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Tread off.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: The Panthers have not won or covered the spread in
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: the game that they have been favorite since September one,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: four years ago. They've lost eleven straight straight up and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: against the number as a favorite. This is the longest
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: streak since nineteen I think the merger they said since
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy they can't win. They are dead in the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: water as a favorite. But maybe that changes now.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna hold true forever, Joe.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean, but it's hell true for for.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I mean what that said. Let's let's let's take that
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. How many times were they
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: favored in the last four years?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Eleven?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Eleven? Yeah, in Quebec they call that awns. It's my
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: favorite number in French awns. It just sounds good, awns on.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: That's eleven in French. Okay, Rams and Seahawks, oh man,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not betting the Rams this week. They're so good though,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and the Seahawks, I'll bet them. I think both teams
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: are a bet on team moving forward. I think both
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: teams are awesome. I'm looking to bet on Seattle this week,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: not the Rams.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Art.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, Press.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: I think both teams are awesome, but to me, the
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the two best teams in the conference.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I can't wait. I can't wait till they play. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: know we've talked forever about their future stuff. You know
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: it's probably too late on both these teams, but maybe
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: now's the time to start looking at future stuff conference,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: you know, super Bowl, all that type of stuff, because
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: the numbers are only going to go.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Down Thursday, December eighteenth. Joe, I'm not going to say
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: or that's when they play. Yeah, I'm just saying that's
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: when they play. Oh, okay, you get to say, Joe.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I was just giving you a little color Oh I
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: like the color press. Let me let me just say this.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: This Sunday is when the Detroit Lion season ends. I
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: am betting the Rams. I think the Rams absolutely let
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: everybody know and make a statement of who the best
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: team in the NFC is. And sorry, can't keep giving
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: up third points a game, Detroit and expect anybody to
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: take you seriously. I think the Rams destroyed them. Wow,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: look at the book, Look at the Dams. I mean,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: it's been no man's land from the open five you
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: said five and a half sick. Yeah, that's no man's land.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: And yet it's not going the other way. The public
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: will want Detroit. They think it's too many points, but no.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well and laid la early, so you know that's
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: why we've moved. Yeah to that, you know, to that six.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Not that six is key, but we're starting to trend
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: to key numbers.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Well right now over in odds launching across all the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: sports books, it looks like ninety two percent of the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: tickets on the over, seventy two percent on the money,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: sixty six percent on the rams, ninety percent of the
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: money on the rams the rams. So and yet we've
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: gone from six to five and a half. Interesting, that
• 32:00
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• 32:02
  Speaker 2: We didn't I opened as low as four and a
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: half five, so we know, yeah, we've seen nothing but
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: all we've seen. Yeah, you were born.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Right now. You can get a six at or one
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: one and a four and a half heavily juiced at
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: penny ur and a half, not heavily juiced. Oh that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: was the open. Yeah, okay, great breaking segment. Man, I
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: love it. I love Wednesdays Art. Thanks for doing this, man.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: What's going on over at the Westgate? Anything to promote?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: No, not much, pres listen, man, enjoy your trip. Obviously,
• 32:37
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• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be back for the Monday show. Art deseaser.
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• 32:47
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  Speaker 1: the over in the La Detroit game. And let me
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  Speaker 1: bottom line this. There was seventy four points scored in
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  Speaker 1: the last Detroit game, the one Dallas played forty four
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  Speaker 1: to thirty Detroit victory. There were fifty five points scored
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  Speaker 1: in the Green Bay game that would have pushed. There
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  Speaker 1: was sixty one point scored when they played the New
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  Speaker 1: York Giants, there was six. The six points scored when
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  Speaker 1: they played Washington fifty five is Child's played for this
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  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions team. And when you look at the rams,
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  Speaker 1: they just put forty four up on Arizona, twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: on Carolina, thirty more on Tapa Bay, forty two on
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  Speaker 2: This team has.
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  Speaker 1: Gone over thirty or over thirty four four times in
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  Speaker 1: their last six games. That is unheard of. And yes
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  Speaker 1: they have a good defense, they're not holding Detroit down
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  Speaker 1: fifty five, thirty one, twenty eight, thirty one, twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: thirty one, twenty five, thirty or twenty eight. They all
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  Speaker 1: go over. Joe, what do you like?
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  Speaker 2: Pres We talked about this game a little bit earlier,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, I mean, listen, the look aheadline for
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  Speaker 2: the Houston Texans was six to six and a half
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  Speaker 2: and they go to Arrowhead and come away with a win.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm still scratching my head about the whole
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  Speaker 2: fourth down going for it on their own thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: But nothing that I saw in that game against Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City leads me to believe there should be a three
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  Speaker 2: to three and a half point adjustment from what the
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  Speaker 2: look ahead was with Arizona. So Arizona getting nine and
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  Speaker 2: a half and just wait because it we'll get to ten.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that C. J. Stroud in his career
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  Speaker 2: has never laid this kind of number. I'm sorry that
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  Speaker 2: offense doesn't deserve to be a ten point favorite over anybody.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Pres I'll take the points.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. I'm with you, brother, CBB Joe.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Before we get into college basketball rundown, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: this Jacksonville State game. They're playing Houston. And before let's leave,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: let's leave a gap.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we are going to give all of.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: You people five seconds to think about what the line
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  Speaker 1: in the Houston Jacksonville State game is before we tell
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  Speaker 1: you it.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe, all right, pras well, you're not joking
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  Speaker 2: in this thing, because it is ugly. The Jacksonville Jacksonville
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  Speaker 2: State Tigers are now I believe, the latest, a forty
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  Speaker 2: and a half point underdog two the University of Houston.
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  Speaker 2: Now we are talking about a terrible Jacksonville State team
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  Speaker 2: that I believe has already lost four games this season.
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  Speaker 2: By at least thirty five points. But listen, this is
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: not the same old, same old Houston, at least defensively here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: And most of those games that they lost were against
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  Speaker 2: teams that play much faster tempo than what Houston is
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: going to Usually those games land somewhere in the seventy
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  Speaker 2: six seventy seven possession mark. You're not gonna get that
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  Speaker 2: with Houston here. Now. They are the number six I
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  Speaker 2: think defensive ranked thanks to ken Pom efficiency in the country.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: But the total is one thirty five, one thirty five
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  Speaker 2: and a half and you're asking them to win in
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  Speaker 2: a lower possession game by over forty and a half points. Now,
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  Speaker 2: having said that, I'd rather play the total, though, I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather play the under one thirty five and a half
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  Speaker 2: because if they are going to cover this game, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Jacksonville State gets to fifty points. It's a
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  Speaker 2: big ask, but I think the value is more on
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  Speaker 2: the under in this one. And I'll give you another
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: game coming up here today, Charleston take it on South Florida.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I think South Florida is one of these teams this year,
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  Speaker 2: guys that is going to have really really big home
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  Speaker 2: and away splits here. I think they are going to
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: be much better at home than they are going to
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: be on the road. You just saw that with that
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  Speaker 2: win over Utah State last week. And this line is
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: right kind of where that line was. I think this
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: isn't the same old, same old Charleston team. They are
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: going through a lot of turnover and they are playing
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: much slower than they used to here. I definitely think
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: South Florida laying two touchdowns thirteen thirteen and a half
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  Speaker 2: back then when they are home, Pres, they are going
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to be a solid bet all season long.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Joe, let's go four NHL games two minutes to do
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  Speaker 1: them all. Rangers on the road playing Chicago Rangers have
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: been really good on the road of late Joe. They
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: won three of the last four. This Chicago team coming
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: back from a four game road trip, I really like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: to bet hockey teams coming back from a big road trip.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. And I spoke to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Matthew Barnaby about this a lot, and what he was
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: saying is, Hey, Pres, we know we're men. We go out,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you know, we go fun, We drink, we pond, we
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: play video games, we laugh, we enjoy each other. And
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: then we come home and have to deal with estrogen.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't be in a bad mood for one day.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: So that explains that we're gonna take the New York
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Rangers Joe Detroit playing Calgary tonight six and a half.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: At some of the books draftings especially, always can count
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  Speaker 1: on them for a half. I like the under in
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  Speaker 1: this game. I know Calgary and Buffalo played eleven goals
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in their last game, and Calgary finally put up some.
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  Speaker 1: This is a team that's gonna play to the under
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: all year long. Anytime there's a six and a half.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I don't care who they're playing, We're taking the under.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I like the over in the Florida Utah game Joe
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: five and a half at the two Big Boys six
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: everywhere else. Look, it's just one of those spots where
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I think Utah is gonna score and Florida has been
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: putting up three or more lately. And the Kings in Seattle.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I like the Kings here Joe minus one forty. This
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: is a good bet other than that big card tomorrow.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Just take the under in every Toronto Maple Leaf game.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I've been riding that for a while.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Is that all for Toronto Press. Is it is the
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: is it that era over? Or then they know the time.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you something Joe yesterday and Wager talked today.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I was asked if Toronto minus one fifteen to make
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the playoffs was a good bet, and I think it is.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I actually think that Toronto is better suited for a
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: long playoff run now than they were prior. They're not
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: better suited to winning the league during the regular season.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So it's an interesting dynamic. Right this is a team
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: that's transitioning to a defensive team. Uh and right now
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: they're playing without either of their goaltenders. So no, I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: don't do I think they're going to win the cop No,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I don't, But I do think it minus one fifteen
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. I think that's an unbelievable bet.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So I was wondering if you're sticking to
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: fok of them or are we thinking maybe there's still
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: a little something and left there?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on And I know you cheer
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: it with the Panthers. I mean they're basically the same situation.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Right now. We're missing our two goalies. You're missing your
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: two stars.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I think experience matters in a long season, and I
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: think ultimately now is not the time to stick a
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: fork in any of those types of teams. I would
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: wait until after the after the calendar turns and everyone
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: gets a little healthier, we'll have a better idea of
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: who's what I think.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. NBA rundown, Joe, what do you got?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Pras?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Only two more games here tonight. NBA Cup Time. It's
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: gonna starts with the first game, and that's gonna be
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns. The feisty Phoenix Suns, who, by the way,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: we just cashed a ticket with our clients taking those
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: points against Minnesota Timberwolves the other night. Good news for
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the Suns. By the way, they may very well have
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Devin Booker back for this game. Looks like he's gonna
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: be questionable or at least a game time decision. That's
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the good news. The bad news is they're taking all
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: on the friggin OKC thunder who to this point have
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: only lost one game. That's it, one game. In fact,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: they've won twelve of their last fifteen games by ten
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: points or more. Here so I told you last night.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Usually in these kinds of NBA Cup games, You're going
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: to tend to get a little more defense. This isn't
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: gonna be just a regular Tuesday Wednesday night game. They
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: are gonna bring some defense here. I think we're gonna
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: play at a little slower pace. Wouldn't shock me if
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: the under hits here, But if Devin Booker goes, I
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: think this one is going to be a little bit
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: closer than maybe the market things I told you earlier
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: with the Spurs and the Lakers. This second game, I
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: don't get the lie seven seven and a half. This
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: was six and a half at the open. It's been
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: nothing but Laker money all day long. The Lakers won
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the first meeting between these two teams one eighteen to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: one sixteen. That was a month ago, and of course
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Luca had thirty five, nine and thirteen in that game.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: There was no I believe Austin Reeves or Lebron James
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in that one. You'll have Lebron here, you'll have Reeves.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: But again, this feels like a big number to me
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: to lay the seven and a half we talked about
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: in a three team parlay of the day. Just take
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: the Lakers on a money line if you want to
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: be safe. But I would also tend to think we
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: might be getting points. The NBA's worst three point defensive team.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That would be the Lakers. The team without web Iyama
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: hitting threes from all over the place, that would be
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: San Antonio. I think an over might be in play
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: here tonight at the Crypto dot Com.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Arena, Joe our mailbag section of the show. Before we
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: get into that real quick, I want to tell you
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: guys again, I am not here Thursday and Friday. Brian
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Power will be in my seat. I will be back
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: on a Monday. Joe, the genie lover rights. What is
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the early line on Dion Sanders becoming the next Brown's
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: head coach? I say it's not gonna happen.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: No way, not gonna happen. No, not gonna happen. I
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: don't think Dion wants anything to do with NFL players.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I think Dion loves much better being the king of
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: his own little castle there in Colorado. And quite honestly,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I mean he's got some health issues, Prez. He's had
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: health issues for a while now. I don't know that
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the stress and aggravation of the NFL is something he
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: wants to deal with. So I wouldn't bank anything as possible.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It is the Browns after all, and they do have
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson coming back, so I don't know. Uh, pez
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Denzel Bolden writes, because yesterday, yesterday said the Titans are
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: a bent on team and the Browns aren't.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: He laughed at me.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: He thought that was funny, and then I pointed out
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: that they just played each other in Cleveland of the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Titans won one. Yeah, so thanks for that. Green Bay
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: is favorite for a reason. Denver hasn't beaten anyone that's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: from the valley. And yes, Joe agrees. Yep, Bill Wrights,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a client and was just trolling Joe. You guys
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: are the greatest. The public service announcement on Monday by
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the press should be sent to the Smithsonian.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Ooh along with the press. Yeah, you should both go.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah for ancient handicappers. H Joe, one of our listeners
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: has told you that the Miami Heat are on a
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: time out and you should no longer be betting them.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: This is from your loan officer, your actual loan officer. Joe.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, loan officer. I'm tending I tend to agree
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: with you. I had to heat last night, but I
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: did give you guys the undergar on the show, so
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I hope you you jumped on that they were up
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: fifteen nothing to start that game press, and then Tyler
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: hero just couldn't hit water if he fell out of
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  Speaker 2: a boat. But I agree with you for now. The
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  Speaker 2: on that hell No last Press.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go there, Joe. Okay, I'm gonna stick
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  Speaker 1: to my guns. Bro, I'm going to stick to the plan.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Listen our last the last one I wanted to mention,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: and this is a perfect way to end the show.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: JK writes, if you get Debbie to make an appearance,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: you better have her under the total press. I think
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: he meant under the table.
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  Speaker 2: Close y, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: I this is a This is a message to Debbie head. Debbie.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get off the screen for this day. Debbie.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I want to know what you think given that we
• 50:54
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• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you commented yesyesterday on someone's post, so I know you're
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: listening to our show. I'm very appreciative of you, and
• 51:07
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• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think about the stick that we
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: have been running for the last week. And thank you,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Debbie had Okay, that's that's all I got, dude.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, thank you Debbie. We appreciate you. Listen.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need new material. Okay, see you on Monday.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Joe Briant, Power and Art will be back tomorrow. Later everyone,