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The Flash: Trashpoint Or Nah (The No Spoiler Review) · For All Nerds Show

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your boy, DJ Been I mean back in the Captain's Chair a k A.
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Bundy, Hello, Jordan, the Anti Trife Equation, Captain Colebrew,
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Wally west Side, Serie, Allen Blurt Bit aka trash Point. Okay,
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even though you know look that that now people are gonna be like, oh
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he hating, you know, actually that is not how I feel about this.
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But as you can tell by my DC influence names, you will be
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talking about the Flash alongside my amazing in all white co host, Hey Tatiana
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King aka d Grant as the techk A flex Luthor aka Queen of the Amazon
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Prime Suspicion aka glorillok Rod, And we are here to talk the Flash movie,
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by the way to I know, thank you, Ben, I mean
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for that Glorial Lagrod aka that shit is hot fire. You're very welcome,
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very well. I couldn't using myself, so I had to pass that one
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along, you know what I mean. So, yes, and we are
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back to the Struss D Flash Flashpoint. It's still called the flash flash Point,
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right. I don't know if the ellipses is there anymore. Like everywhere
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I've seen it, they've just been calling it the flash flash. Yeah,
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I'm not sure. It's just the flash now, just the flash. Wow.
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That's interesting that they just dropped a flashpoint from it, did they?
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I don't know. I don't know if the flashpoint was any was ever there
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in the title. We all know though that this is based on the Flashpoint
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story. But yes, directed by mister Muchetti is a Greguchet and Andy Andy
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Muchetti, Andy Muchetti, directed, written by written by Christina Hodson and Joby
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Harold. Also we thought that was cool because we found out that this was
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one of the producers is Andy's sister. My name is Barbara Michetti. Little
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nepotism going on. Love it, Love to see it, Love to see
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it, folks. And this is the highly anticipated Flash movie. You know,
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there's been a lot said about the movie as well as its lead star
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in the lead up. Plus during the production and release of this movie,
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you know, James Dunn and his boy got hired to run DC. So
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everything that was involved with this is basically out now in a way because James
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Dunn is in and it remains to be seen what will be left behind.
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While before this was trying to be a reboot for basically the Snyder verse,
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and now it's like no more Snyder at all, obviously because he's going on
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to work for Netflix, and now this is the James Dunn verse. So
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it's a reboot into the James Dunn world of DC. Yeah. I what
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I found interesting that in the lead up to this film being out, like
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I was say in the last thirteen months or so, I was one of
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the loud people saying, how could y'all stick by and say that you're gonna
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continue to release this film, right, especially all the bullshit that has happened
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because of Ezra Miller And how could they continue to support this obvious or I
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guess legally you gotta stay alleged abuser, but um, I you know,
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I just wasn't working with that, right, I wasn't jacking that at all.
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And I just felt like, especially in the last few months with everything
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crumbling down in terms of what was already on the slate for DC, with
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the whole you know, the rapture that happened there, like the stuff that
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they was pulling the plug on. I'm like, yeah, pulling the plug
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on this ship, but not on this How could you and something? And
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remember I remember there being tibits like no, it's too damn good, it's
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too good, it's too good, we can't pull And I was just like,
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yo, what executive did, Like what is this movie? What is
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so goddamn good about this movie that they convinced executives like, Nah, despite
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all to shit, this gotta go up. And then we saw it yea.
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At the very beginning of the movie, Andy and his sister had a
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quick words basically thanking everybody for watching it, and they made a note that
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what we saw today or that day, which is what made twenty second at
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the time, I don't know when you guys are gonna listen to us.
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What we saw was not gonna be the final cut of the movie when it
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releases wide in June sixteenths. From what we know, there's maybe a ten
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minute different or twenty minute difference between the full fledge everything right, everything I
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was shot for this versus the cut that we saw. I don't believe there's
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gonna be a fundamental difference between what y'all see and what we see. We
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think it's more so like they're going to clean up effects. They're gonna clean
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up maybe sound different things here and there, maybe they'll add in something the
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ending, you know, extra credit. There's probably gonna be a before and
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after credit scene. We had no before or after credit scene. We literally
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just got the the Imax logo and that was that. But yes, we
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did see it in Imax, so we had the big the big boy screen
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and all that. So yeah, I just want to make that caveat what
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we are talking about. Hopefully nothing that we say doesn't just magically disappear by
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the time you guys see it. But yeah, let you know that I
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doubt it. I've heard word. I know that at one point the movie
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was supposed to be two hours and forty minutes, and the one we saw
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it was like two hours and twenty two minutes or so, So there was
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definitely that change. But from what I've seen online on Reddit and everything,
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and if you want to avoid full spoilers, do not go to places like
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that, because people have posted the entire plot and from what I've seen,
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most seen the same version that we saw last night, So up to this
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point that I hadn't have been any major changes. I do expect, like
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you said, there'd be one or two extra credit scenes, and they'd probably
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be pretty impactful, and that's why they were holding them off. Potentially absolutely
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yep yep, yep, yep, yep yep. That being said, like
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you said, I felt the same way. I you know, I had
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my misdievings and in fact, just I mean, as Ezra Player, ain't
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the flash I thought in both Justice League and in Zach Cider's Justice League.
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He was wildly annoying, and they were wildly annoying. And I did not
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find Ezra to be in the central part of the puzzle or where I was
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even hype for this version of the Flash. I was a big fan of
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Grant Gustin on the TV show, so that was always my Flash. And
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I didn't really get, you know, Ezra's take. I felt like it
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was a Tom Holland esque take on the Flash on Barry Allen, you know,
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a Peter Parker as take, and that was weird because that's not Barry's
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character at all, you know, and even in this film, this ain't
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Barry at all, you know, Like I Steel, like you Ben,
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I mean where I think Grant Grant had largely been my Flash, regardless of
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what they was doing in the cinematic universe. He's been the Flash. He's
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been the standard bearer for me. And I was also very big on the
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CW Show, so that was That's what I was always judging portrayals off of,
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at least from the modern times, right, And I'm not gonna hold
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you and I'm not gonna pull punches. I do not like Ezra Miller.
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I'm not sure if I really do either. And it's really funny because like,
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and I don't mean, I don't mean his just excuse me, their
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version of the Flash. I mean as the person. Yeah, I feel
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a person as a person. From what I've heard of, it does not
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seem like someone I would really kick it with either, and their portrayal I
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really am not very impressed with. And it is interesting though, because Brent
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Gustin for years did a Barry Allen that was more like Wally West, and
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now Ezra is doing a Barry Allen that's more like It's like I said,
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yeah, I don't know what the fuck, it's not like Wally. I'm
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not sure it's it's just a different categorization and different expression towards it. And
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when they were first introduced as the Flash, and again I made my statement
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about the person as the character, I don't like that portrayal of the character
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because it just didn't. It wasn't even with Grant's version of Flash. Yes,
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there were nuances and difference in what I grew up with, which is
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the cartoons, right, the Justice League limiteds and things like that. Okay,
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fine, that that that's that's the Flash. To me, that's always
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Flash to me, and then when Grant came along, I'm all right,
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cool, I could I still I'm still feeling you. You're still in the
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same You're still in the same category. You're still in the same lane,
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right the categories cars. You know, there goes to Bentley and there goes
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the Beam and all right, you're still there. Their hair comes this fucking
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Corolla and I'm just like, yeah, that ain't it. And I just
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and I will say that I and I'm not sure if you want to people
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listening, if you want to call that a bias, you want to call
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that just whatever it is. I just didn't, never, never, ever
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like that this portrayal of Barry Allen. And I didn't like this version of
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the Flash in the other DC movies at all. I've always something about him
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just punchable and bothering me. So that and and then that is that shaped
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my view of the character itself, not of the overall movie, even though
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it is ninety percent him. Um, I did look at the movie with
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fairness and balance. And what was your overall takeaway with this, Mines?
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Was this was a fire movie? Mines, was this was a pretty solid
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movie, Like I thought, you know, it's if you go into it
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without any of the caveats. And let's say, if you're just a general
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superhero fan, like I'm someone who the Flash is one of my favorite DC
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characters, and especially, like you said, Wally West, because when I
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grew up, Wally West was the Flash. Barry Allen was dead. I
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didn't give a shit. I never gave a shit about none of them old
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school DC cats, you know. So I was like, Oh, this
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the new dude. You know, he's young, he's hip. I fuck
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with Wally. He getting shorties, you know, he's getting money, and
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he the Flash. I'm fucking with this. So I fucked with the Flash.
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Then I loved Wally West, so I love the League as well.
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And then I even loved Grants because he seemed more like Wally than Barry,
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and I never liked Barry. And then Ezra comes along, you said,
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and it's doing some of a wild thing that I just don't even know which
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dude this is. I didn't understand the point like it was, and it's
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annoying. It's more he should have been on Bart, he should have been
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the kid from the future. Bart is Barry's grandson who plays who becomes impulse
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from the future, okay, because he's that extra hype want you know,
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can't stop talking. I can't. I can't. And that's bart that just
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because to me it is like almost like overacting, right, Like I can
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see and feel that the irritation and it is bothering me, like is aggravating
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me. And I will say that just too meant much dopes, like too
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big of a dose of this version of Barry aggravates me. Yeah, But
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that being said, I still enjoy the film, I know, And that's
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what. Yeah, that's why I was getting too if you go into this
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without the end of that, if you're just like, yo, let me
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go see a dope super aero from this hits on every level. Yes,
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you know action visually, I mean from the jump the way and since we've
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had years of various like CGI and just also use of flashes powers on TV,
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I was wondering. And plus you had Quicksilver doing his damn thing in
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the X Men movies, so I was very wondering how they're can pull it
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off and make it different. I wonder do you would you think now seeing
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what you saw, do you think they've risen to the Quicksilver level of portraying
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a speedster because the Summer was the epitome of that. It's same cinematically,
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Yeah, it's same, but different. I guess it's one way of looking
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at it because it's kind of the same thing like that, especially the opening
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sequence, which I found was incredible, which it's also a variation on how
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Quitsilver was portrayed, so it's you know, but I also thought it was
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incredible because of the use of action and the way the sequence of filmed the
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shot, and there were some new approaches. Yes, his initial versus speed
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you know, running across the country that ship was crazy. I thought it
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was just sick. Oh, there's a lot of dope action in the film,
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you know. I thought, like, I love Supergirl, you know,
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I loved this version of her. I want to see more of her.
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I thought she was awesome. I thought the way she was portrayed,
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her fight sequences, everything was dope. Michael Keaton, I mean it goes
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in. I was saying, like, as far as acting, Michael Keaton,
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is that dude, you know what I mean? So when he shows
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up, I immediately believe that he's this older Bruce Wayne who's tired of it,
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dude, don't give a shit no more and has to be drawn back
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into the fight. I loved it. I also found they utterly ridiculous at
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times because it's like Michaelghan like, I didn't know you so little, you
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know, like he looked so tidy in the batsuit sometimes, and then that
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plays out in the film as well, and I found that hilarious that they
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addressed that, you know, Like that was the one thing I really liked
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about the writing. It's like they not only did they address like how annoying
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Ezra is as the flash, they addressed just a lot of things like Michael
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Keaton, you knows Batman trying himself against Kryptonians. It ain't gonna end out
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that well, fam you know, this is not a good look, and
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that was addressed over and over again. Yeah, just continuing on the path
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of just overall feelings like this. This movie generally speaking had great pacing there.
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It was some imaginative views of the speed force and and this version of
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being a speeder right, And like I said, this, DC really rose
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to the occasion on this one, And after seeing the film, I now
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completely understand why they were, like there's no fucking way we can scrap this
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for the obvious universe reset reasons, but also just from a story perspective.
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Yeah, yes, money too, but from a deeper, more deeper a
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story perspective. There's a lot of people who showed, yeah, the story
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perspective, the writing, and in the cast as well, minus Ezra Miller.
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So you mentioned Supergirl. Supergirl was let me tell you when when people
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someone asked me on Twitter, like a few weeks back, they were like,
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what are you looking forward to? And I said, honestly, I
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don't care about nothing else but Supergirl too, and they fucking gave me everything.
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Like she served like this is what I wanted to fucking see when I
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said, like, I just wanted to see first all. I don't want
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to see fucking Superman anymore. Get him the fuck out of here right now,
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especially because Henry gone fuck out of here right now. I don't want
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to I mind thinking about you right now. I want to do some new
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new I've always said that, like, can we please move on to somebody
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else that we haven't pushed hard enough at all? Sasha Callie, and I
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hope I'm pronounced her last name right, Sasha. Yeah, Sasha Fish,
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you fucking did that. The she was just an incredible She was incredible in
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this the way she portrayed that character. Her physicality for this character, that's
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it. And then that's the thing that people see her and they see like
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somebody who who looks petite and not not very like much whoever, No,
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she got that physicality down. She has the acting down. She wasn't acting,
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she wasn't overacting, she wasn't she wasn't annoying, none of that shit.
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Like you was like, holy shit, I want to see more of
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her. And I had got that feeling when I was watching the trailers,
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so then to be in the movie and finally see her and see her interact
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with the others and and and doing the doing the acting, I was like,
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all right, I'm working with it. I hope we see more of
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her in the future. Yeah. And it's interesting because I saw a lot
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like comparisons of course you're gonna diep this to how the Man of Steals action
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was and how it was portrayed, and it was definitely more brutal, like
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when they're punching people. Yeah, I mean when the man is still you
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know, when the Catonius punched people, they exploded. You know you're not
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gonna get that in this This is absolutely toned down. But when she punches
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people, you know they go flying. It's obviously they're dead, and it's
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toned down from exploding on impact, but it's still not toned down, Like
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it's still the the the beyond God powers that you should be seeing, like
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when someone when you get punched, you're getting punched two miles away, Like
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it's more so. What what I liked what DC started doing is leaning into
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the Injustice game and how that portrayed fights and finishers and things like this,
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Like you see that style of fighting is has been incorporated more into the cinematic
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universe, and you see that big time in the Flash. I mean like
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stupid wild shit like you know that dump, like that wild ship Superman taking
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somebody else to the fucking atmosphere and fucking pile driving them down to the ground.
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Like that level of brutality. You get to see some of that was
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there, like a wild shot at the Snyder verse at one point when like
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the Flash, did he say that, like are you to see this done
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in slow mo? At one point when when Superman is whooping ass or Cryptonians
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for whooping ass or something. I like a lot of like subs in that
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movie period Ye strays like it's a lot and it's like if you're not really
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listening. And also it was it was subby enough where you couldn't one hundred
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percent like you can kind of guess what they were talking about, but you
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couldn't like one hundred percent verify that that's what they were Yeah. Yeah,
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well again, well written, I guess because if I one hundred percent tell,
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then you know you did what you needed to do. No, that's
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something like okay, Now, as far as does any of the time travel
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stuff hold up, it's this like an iconic like Back to the Future or
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the first two Time Terminators. I don't think so. I think they intentionally
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get away from that right away and be like this is like as in,
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uh, the good place this is you know, Timey is trying to wavy
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and stream theory and all over the place in here, so we don't have
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to worry about keeping strict timelines or you know, what happens in this world
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that world. Then they ain't give any shit about that. It's more like
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this offense everything. You know, we're just going crazy. So but once
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getting back before we get into the too deep specific, Yeah, Michael was
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fantastic. Yeah, and overall I really really enjoyed it. It's something that
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I want to see again. And just like Guardians to the Gallaty three,
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when I walked out of it, I was like, Okay, that was
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pretty good. Like I really thought I was dope. And then when I
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got home and I was thinking more about I was like, oh, man,
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like I really appreciated this is something a little bit. It's like the
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writing that how they showed how the two flashes worlds are different, just the
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little things about pop culture. And then a lot of the lines that the
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second Flash from the other world was making was we're really like you had to
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be like you said, there was something you got to think about. Like
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he made a hip hop reference at one point in the movie that was really
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ill and wrong to us. It was wrong, like wrong lingo, like
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like people like you trying to say, but you know where it came from.
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Yeah, and it worked because it's because of that world. That world
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is different. It was like somebody confusing you know, this group making this
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song, but in that world, that group did make that song. I
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get this, you know. So it was it was a little cute stuff
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like that throughout the film and so I really appreciated that. Back to the
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action that was Thope, Michael Keaton, Sasha was incredible. Um, Ben
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affleck was back as bat Fled We know that too. Yeah. Where there's
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a lot of cameos and I don't want to mention too many of the ones,
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you know in this general part at least who show up, you know,
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but there's a lot, but Ben Affleck man, that shit just made
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me hurt. Like Michael Keaton was like cool to see back, but it
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wasn't like the Vulture for me. I mean, he gonna look like the
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Vulture because that's Michael Keaton in this age. But Ben Afflett made me hurt
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that we never got to see the batflt films and I and I'm not gonna
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hold you you've been. I mean that there's a whole sequence that's Batman unfiltered,
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and I was like, oh, to myself, this is the Batman
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I've always wanted to see beyond this and this is separate from the Nolan film
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because I think version of Batman, which is which is beautiful as the psysult
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is this thought. But this version of Batman is what I've been wanting to
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see. All of the aspects. Remember I told you stuff like Injustice stuff
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like you know when Arkham the Art Justice League Unlimited. Yes, the Arkham
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games, Arkham Asylum games like everything you you grew to love, I say,
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And in the pop culture last within the last twenty Batman the animated series,
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like sure, yeah, but I'm just staying just in terms of the
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modernization of it, that's been the last okay, fifteen years, but the
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modernization of Batman, this was it and it's still held true to the innercore
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of Backham values, right yeah, I mean honestly, I was. I
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was floored by the portrayal of this version of Batman. And I don't know
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if you want to think Ben Affleck for that. I don't all you want
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to think the CGI for that, But you got what you came for and
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right both because Ben just does a great job. Like I thought this from
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you know, the Snyder verse. I thought Ben was one of the few
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who did a great job as Bruce and as Batman, like most actors can
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do one or the other, you know very well. I thought Ben was
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a great Bruce and a great Batman, and so I always was a fan
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from the casting. I was screaming Batfleck all the way. So I've I'm
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disappointed, man, because that like that opening sequence, the opening sequence evolves
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Ben Affleck and the Flash and some bank robbers, and it's fucking incredible.
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You know, It's just you see quit bits of it in the trailers,
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and it does not do it justice. It's incredible. Christian Bell was a
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good Batman and Bruce Wayan, yes, okay, but I think you said
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not even gonna pull it off. So who couldn't pull it off? Who
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are you referring to? Val Kilmer? Well, Val Kimer was, I
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think he. I think Michael Keaton was interesting, Like I think he really
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portrayed the weirdness that Bruce Wayne would have to be because it was cartooning.
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He was, yeah, and he was a little bit off, you know,
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just touched, but his Batman was more like a little cartoony for men,
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you know, like for the time, it was amazing, but it
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also it's not like one of the ones where I'm like, Okay, you
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know, I like his Bruce more than I like his Batman. I think
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I don't know. On some days, I like his Batman mon I like
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his Bruce. You know, I'm just trying to understand because you said like
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some of them can, yeah, and what's just understandable? So some can't
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do both? Okay, so who could it? Um, Robert Patterson,
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I don't even count that. Oh my god, I don't even know that
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real honestly, like this, this in this movie, this Batman makes you
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like I already like I just did, forget about what the fuck that was
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Robert Patterson, Like we're gonna get reminded darker that's coming back, Like like,
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honestly, honestly, after seeing this film, I don't I mean even
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more Twilight version of Batman, I do not. I don't want motherfucking Nolan
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light like we had three movies of Nolan and a Batman who struggles to do
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anything. I want to see the Batman who is stunting on ingers like he
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was in the beginning of this film. Yes, yes, so you and
24:30
I think that's part. That's a big reason why I rated this film so
24:34
high, because you get the characterizations at least I did that I've been waiting
24:38
for, Like I felt like it was either holding punches or trying to give
24:42
me some experimental version of the character, And I'm like, what the fuck
24:47
is this? Like just fucking go in and modernize the character and you can
24:51
continue, say to the values, but modernize it right, Like, yeah,
24:52
I don't even see Batman shooting guns. I don't want to see that.
24:56
No. I want to see him go in with his ingenuity and his
25:00
his resourcefulness and all that other ship and have the tech and have the fucking
25:11
whatever else that makes him him, and also the distrust and the ego and
25:15
all that other ship. Pull that all together in a big pot and you
25:18
get what I feel like, it's the best Batman. But that being said,
25:22
um, they did do. It's a bit of It was interesting how
25:25
they trying to market this because they're obviously I haven't mentioned it was a big
25:29
uproar about they releasing this and putting Ezra Miller off the forefront of this is
25:33
this is flashes film whatever whatever, So they're like, how are you going
25:34
to market this? Knowing that that nigga's trash. Then they made it seem
25:37
like, oh, it's mostly about Batman. Remember, there were there's a
25:41
lot of there were some flyers where it was basically the Batman logo with a
25:44
little tiny flash lightning boat. This movie's ninety percent to flash. Yeah,
25:49
it's ninety percent to flash. Yes, there are the Batman stuff that we
25:52
just said, that's amazing, but this this is really a flash movie.
25:56
Yeah, Supergirls in it, Batman's in it, both Batman are in it,
26:00
a lot of other cameos and I mean cameos because you know they are
26:04
cameos, and then it's flash. Yeah yeah yeah. Um. When you
26:10
mentioned about how they portrayed like the time travel and they the rules or not,
26:14
and it's just and I want to say they ignored anything. It was
26:17
just their version of it. It's like whatever their version of what time travel
26:21
might happen. Yeah, things happened. But it's also like you you said
26:25
it, you said everything changes, right you you fuck up? You change
26:27
or do one thing, everything gets reversed or whatever. This obviously called and
26:33
not from a comic book perspective, but front of a cinematic perspective, the
26:37
introduction of the multiverse into the DCU, And it's just interesting the timing of
26:42
things, you know, with with how where Marvel is like they've already done
26:47
that intro and they're kind of well on the way and that's part of their
26:49
what twenty year plan or whatever the fuck how many years that is now at
26:53
this point, Whereas and to me, it's like Marvel did it because they
26:57
planned on doing, whereas DC at this point, especially because they greenlit this
27:03
despite everything they had to they had to. Marvel did because they they wanted
27:07
to. DC did it because they had to. And I just think that's
27:11
the main distinction. Um, they are treating it differently. They're treating their
27:17
multi their versus on what multiverse means, much differently. They are. There's
27:21
no set rule, I would say, based on this movie, there's no
27:23
set rule in terms of what characters might look like or act like. It's
27:26
just like they kind of cherry pick. Whoever they choose is gonna be different,
27:30
It's gonna be different. Whoever they choose gonna be the same. It's
27:32
gonna be the same, right, Whereas Marvel is a little bit of some
27:36
there's a semblance of some rules where like you might have fifty loki's and one
27:40
of them as an alligator, one of them's black, one of them is
27:42
this one of them that right to see those rules a sense because then with
27:45
the Kings, they are all the same, right, the Kings are all
27:48
the same, but then like for example that like you look at what's if
27:51
the T'Challa's they all look alike, but maybe they act differently, right that
27:53
Tachala that was star Lord for example. So it's like certain rules are followed
27:59
in both you know, universes and then kind of subsequently ignored. But it
28:03
was kind of very clear with DC, like they're gonna be and for obvious
28:06
reasons, they're gonna cherry pick who they change and who they don't. Yeah,
28:10
and also um to put on my nerd glasses for a second, you
28:14
know, Like I was, we've distressed this before, is that DC was
28:17
the first people with it. And one issue I took with this and not
28:21
the fact books. In the common books, they were clearly they had Crisis
28:25
on Infinite Earth. It's one of their biggest common books of all time,
28:29
and they've done multiple Crisis series since then, and they've always had Even before
28:33
Crisis on Infinite Earth, they actually infinited the multiverse concept because they needed a
28:37
way to explain why they had all these different stories, like why super Boy
28:42
was in the future with the Justice League but he was also Superman in the
28:47
present zo. You know, it's like wait, what, And so they
28:51
needed ways to explain this, so they created Earth one and Earth two and
28:53
an Earth bree and just on and on and on. So they were the
28:56
first with it. And but one issue I took with this with flash Point,
29:00
it feels like they kind of shot their little pause, you know,
29:03
like a little early because it's like, now they do you mean this movie?
29:07
Yeah, with this movie, they did not only did they do flash
29:10
Point, which is a big thing, they also did Crisis on Infinite Earth
29:15
and like a five seconds span, you know, they like ran through that,
29:18
which should be its own big thing, and they just kind of like
29:22
it just happened in a quick sequence in the film. And I will say
29:26
I will blame that that. This, this is this used to be DCU,
29:30
And yes, this is still part of the old world going forward,
29:33
James and Peter Gunn, there's gonna be a plan. Yeah, all right,
29:37
we'll see what changes then. But that's partly like this is all this
29:41
is part of the vestiges of not having a fucking plan, yeah, and
29:44
doing throwing everything at the wall, because that's what happened, like some of
29:47
this movie is throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks, and a
29:52
lot of it does manage to sick. And that's big props to Mauchetti,
29:56
who I'm sure did this under all kinds of dress. I can't imagine.
30:03
I shout out to you, brother, salute, because I cannot imagine the
30:07
notes that were given on this movie. Oh my god. Um, they
30:12
they did. I will say they did simplify the time travel, so I
30:18
think based versus a lot of films that try to incorporate time travel, they
30:22
made it more easy for the general public to follow. Um, while they
30:26
while they expressed all these concepts and things, and that they allowedly threw that
30:30
shit out Therehen this this could be what time is, and this could be
30:33
what time is. But but now this is what we're gonna do. Right,
30:37
And it was very it was very and and this is you know,
30:40
oxymoronic, but it was very linear and how they made you understand what was
30:42
happening and towards the end, at least for me anyway, I was able
30:47
to figure out where they were going with this. Right. And again,
30:51
if you've seen, if you if you know the story, then you could
30:55
kind of start making inferences. I think I kind of started getting it right
30:57
away and then it was like yeah about halfway yeah, I was like,
31:02
oh okay, that's where this is drowning. I got it right away,
31:04
not like yeah, hard to predict. Yeah, uh, let's talk why
31:08
are we talking about that. Let's talk about the effects. Now. We
31:12
did not see as as they mentioned that caveat they we did not see the
31:15
final version I hope. So. Uh. The some of the effects look
31:21
wonky that it looked it looked very very much like CGI like it didn't look
31:26
like oh, at least for me. There were certain scenes where I was
31:29
like, that's like blatant, looks like a like a computer generated image.
31:33
It does it. It's not even trying to look real. No, yeah,
31:37
okay, that's actually an opening scene that you talked about that. Oh
31:40
that's not gonna get better, I know, man. So there's some things
31:44
that do look strange. There are some things that this looks strange, and
31:48
then also some questionable special effects choices made to let you see certain people in
31:53
places. I was just oh, yeah, okay, I don't know,
31:59
and again to say, I don't know if they're gonna fix that in imp
32:02
in less than a month impossible. But but there are some questionable things.
32:08
Like you said, there are a lot of cameos in the film, and
32:12
a lot of the cameos involved people who would not be able to be here.
32:15
Let's just say that, you know, for multiple reasons, or not
32:19
be in a film, or look like they look in these films, whether
32:23
or not they're alive or it. Yeah, I mean it could be one
32:29
or the other. You know, some people pass away, some people just
32:30
have changed physically since this time. So there's a lot of use of CGI.
32:37
And if you've seen Rogue one, when you have people who are not
32:40
here with us anymore on the physical plane and have them attempt to act through
32:45
the use of CGI, you know, in the case of Peter Cushing,
32:47
that's what happened in Rogue one. It's horrific. And you know, we
32:52
still not gotten and I God willing we never get to that point where it
32:55
isn't a rific Yeah, but beyond just but like beyond the horriphse just doesn't
33:00
look good. Like what I'm what I'm talking about is just shit that just
33:04
didn't look good. Yeah, it's twenty twenty three and this ship don't look
33:07
good. Bro like Avatars, y'all, and you know, you know how
33:10
you feel about Avatar. Make sure y'all watched that into that review beating a
33:15
lot of people, you know, for looks that saying like, yo,
33:19
I always say that the camera, you will nigga's when it comes to that
33:22
three D and the graphics. Every time I say Avatar, I think about
33:23
that. Damn well, it hurts so bad. I was talking about the
33:30
hurtswin breathe like, but yeah, there were and again I don't know what's
33:37
good and maybe people won't give a fuck because it is just that energy.
33:40
Yeah I don't. Yeah, I didn't really like I feel you one hundred
33:44
percent. And I've seen people already say that. I saw one thread that
33:45
was jan a lot of you know, like hate because he was saying the
33:50
truth about what look like. It's the truth. I didn't remind it because
33:53
that opening sequence is so entertaining to me that Yeah, you know, I
33:58
was like, oh, that's weird looking, you know. First second,
34:00
my brain keeps moving because I'm like, Wow, this is awesome, you
34:04
know, if you're happening a good time. Yes, yeah, And there's
34:07
a lot of things like that, like where sometimes in the movie, I'm
34:09
like, man, but then I'm like, well, I'm having such a
34:10
good time, you know, like, goddamn, every DC movie does not
34:15
have to have a Jesus moment. You know, at some point your character
34:19
does not need to be portrayed as Jesus. Thought, like James Dunn.
34:22
Going forward, we can move on from that, like leave that in the
34:25
Snyder verse, where you know, Jesus comes up every time because once again
34:30
they have a come to Jesus moment. In fact, to come to Jesus
34:34
moment, it's been shown in the trailer. Like I didn't know what was
34:37
happening in the come to Jesus moment, but I saw it in the trailer
34:39
and I was like, wow, again, come to Jesus. You know,
34:42
here we go. It's just an annoying trop Yeah. And then beyond
34:45
it, in this film alone, it is utterly ridiculous and hilarious and a
34:52
serious moments at all. No, it's like, what the hell is happening?
34:58
Why has this happening? I get why this has happen, but this
35:00
is a madhouse that these people live in, and I guess I also love
35:05
that. Um Michael Keaton reacts to everything in this film as like the Audience
35:08
Surrogate where he's like, this is all madhouse, is all nonsense, but
35:13
I'm here for the ride. I'm enjoying myself so fucking and yeah, and
35:17
Michael Keaton is basically that guy. He even you know, he explains time
35:21
travel as fucking enjoy yourself while you're here, you know, And yeah,
35:24
it works. The music. The score for the film, well, the
35:30
score, I would say good, right, Like then we saw an imax
35:35
that the sound was boom stuff. It worked. Some of the music drops,
35:42
some of the music choices I wasn't a fan of. It actually sounded
35:45
dated to me. And it's like like a particularly towards pointless. Yeah,
35:50
but there was a big fight scene towards the end where I'm just like,
35:52
yeah, music on, like literally the scene was perfect. And then I
35:55
turned on some fucking music and I'm like why some I guess how some girl
36:00
empowerment song. I don't know, but I don't know what the fuck it
36:01
was. But the point is it wasn't necessary and so and as I said,
36:07
it just felt dated. So again something that may or may not change
36:10
in the final cut. I don't know. But like and the notes and
36:14
and I had sat down on Twitter, like I was like, you know,
36:15
overall this this is the best DC movie of the modern age, and
36:20
yeah, I just have some low bar, Yes, very low bark.
36:23
See that's even debatable. Isn't really a one hundred percent low bar? I
36:29
would say, Yeah, what I'm saying is that's debatable because I really enjoyed
36:34
two aldge Baard, I enjoyed Suicide Squad, I enjoyed Harley Quinn. Like,
36:37
yeah, there's element That's why I said I would still say this is
36:40
better than those. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And that's why I said
36:44
medium bar, because yeah there's some there. There are bright spots with clothes
36:49
man, because I really enjoyed two Agebaud. There were bright spots in the
36:52
in the former DC EU, and then there were lots of lots of dark
36:55
spots, and you know, and and so so while. But overall,
37:01
there wasn't a lot to compete with in terms of having a fantastic movie.
37:05
That being said, even if you've done in a way with the bar and
37:07
just look at this in the vacuum of is this entertaining. Yes, it's
37:12
just a good comic book movie. Yes, yeah, a good superhero movie.
37:15
Yes, are there fucking gobs of e Striggs. Absolutely. If you
37:21
are a fan of these characters from age sixty five to seventeen, you're probably
37:25
going to be entertained here because there's something that's directly related to your generation of
37:30
that version of the character that they're going to touch on. Yes, So
37:35
that's probably also why this film is going to make three billion dollars or whatever
37:40
they wanted to make. Now, I'm wondering because I saw this in Somebody
37:44
Spread and I feel this one hundred percent. I feel like this movie will
37:47
make a lot of money, but I'm not sure if it's trying to have
37:51
like the No Way Home not Nowhere, I's gonna break wild records because there's
37:55
no good I would say this isn't race like No Way at Homes. Use
38:00
of nostalgia and use of the older characters who hadn't seen before I mean in
38:05
a while was much better than this. This, I feel really just breaks
38:10
down to a lot of remember this person, remember that person, remember this
38:14
person, look at this, Look how deep is your DC knowledge? You
38:17
know? And that type of thing. Really quick. It was a lot
38:21
of fanboyism in this, Yeah, slash, and I will say like there's
38:24
there was tons of stuff that was before in time, and I was just
38:27
like, what the fuck are they talking about? Like and like I would
38:30
ask me like what is that? Or what's going on? And because it
38:32
was just like really and some of that stuff was super obscure. I mean
38:37
even things where like if you weren't like constantly on Reddit Inspiders fourteen, you
38:43
would never know of this, you know, east or egg that they threw
38:45
in there, and it's like how many That's a small subset of people,
38:50
right, So it's just like there was just certain there was a lot throughout
38:53
the movie where like I'll be sitting there and maybe ten people will go oh,
38:58
and then the rest of the movie the thing to be like whishing each
39:00
other like what are they're talking about? Then I was the same times where
39:02
fifty people were like yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like it was
39:06
just it was all over for about eight I was one of those ten people
39:13
oh and I yeah, and I and bat he started. I knew he
39:15
was into it when he when Batamin watches films, and I noticed this when
39:20
we had screening. If he's into it or it's really trying to pay attention
39:22
he sits up, stuck in his seat and he leans forward, and I
39:25
was all in it. Usually like like I always sit back and I'm trying
39:30
to be comfortable and be able to see the screen as much as I can.
39:31
I'm only five four. This man sits up and leans and like you
39:36
know, puts a series the fingers up on his face, and it's really
39:39
it's really super into it, trying to understand and and really grasp everything that's
39:45
happening around him. So and I was like, I said, like,
39:47
shout out to fantastic Frankie, who we all it was also at our screening,
39:51
and you know, she is the big DC fan girl, and she
39:54
thinks that I hate on DC, while truth be told, I've read not
39:59
as mean d DC comics, but I've read a ton of DC comics.
40:02
I think the Batman the animated series, the Bruce tim universe if perhaps the
40:08
greatest universe of any superhero universe of all time, like Batman the Animated series,
40:15
Onto the Superman Animated series, Onto Justice League, Onto Justice League Unlimited
40:19
is the greatest run perhaps if any show ever, you know, Like I
40:23
think the ending of Justice League Unlimited is one of the most perfect things.
40:27
Ever, I just think it's fucking perfection. And that's not even talking about
40:30
all those animated movies that come along with that. The DC anime movies are
40:34
gold standard and also rest rest in peace rather to Kevin Conroy. Yes,
40:38
and so that's what I mean. So I've never been a DC hater.
40:43
I've just always wished we were talking about Batman. Like what I've always wished
40:45
for is to see the Batman who can contend with the Superman with the green
40:51
n I'm I thought Nolan stuff was perfection, but after that, I didn't
40:54
need to see that street level Batman ever again, because I've got the no
41:00
stock if Superman. If Superman came down randomly in the Nolan universe, he's
41:06
wrecking everybody. He's just that nigga with the quickness. Like I don't,
41:10
I don't, I don't see no competition, and don't tell me all the
41:13
shit about Batman with prep time. I see no. Cushing Bell is not
41:15
fucking doing it. No, He's blown through that nigga like he's dust and
41:20
like, no, not at all. So that's why I'm like, no,
41:22
But I mean that was cool for it, but now I want to
41:25
see I wanted to see Batfleck. I thought Batfleck was dope, even though
41:30
he's murdering people left him right. I didn't mind it because he was you
41:32
know, I don't that I can. I can like with Batman. I
41:37
can trying to get away Superman out of here while even snapping Zob's next I
41:43
don't want nobody. I don't remind it other than his dad getting eight by
41:46
a tornado. That ship was stupid and it's a lot of Jesus moments that
41:52
are the stupidest fucking that movie as well. But beyond that, I think
41:54
Man is still is pretty dope. I like some of Batman versus Superman.
42:00
I've watched the Zach Snyder Justice League once and I saw the four hours of
42:04
hot mess looking sorry dog. You know then you talking about like the the
42:08
the I guess the gold standards of these versions of the characters and even the
42:14
mediums that they were in reminds me of something I wanted to mention for the
42:16
Flash, which was the costuming. Oh yeah, they went in on the
42:22
costuming. Yeah, man, I can't lie. I loved his sup Chef's
42:25
kiss. Flash's costume is fucking legit. From the told to the fucking top
42:31
of the head and to that gold on the fucking snigger. Yeah, man,
42:39
they made some nikes in them colors like with that material. Oh no,
42:45
no, no, the nigga had on drip and everybody had on drip.
42:51
Batman's fucking Supergirls super Oh my god, let me tell you straight from
42:57
the comics, and it looks so good, then I will fuck in cosplay
43:00
as that Supergirl fit. Yeah, if someone, if someone makes me the
43:06
costume, I will fucking do the cosplay, I promise you. With the
43:08
way, with the way, I will fucking do this. This version,
43:12
Sasha's version of Supergirl Carl because oh my fucking guy, Like it was just
43:16
so buttery and beautiful, and it didn't look cheesy, you understand, Like
43:22
it looked like a million bucks. And even even Michael Keaton with it with
43:30
the old school Batman, with the old g Batman, and I know that's
43:32
not even the most old school, but one of the old school Batman fits.
43:37
You still got that shit. Like for it to be a quote unquote
43:39
old it still looked fucking good. It looked quality. They definitely redid it
43:45
because in the original movie that man couldn't move his neck couldn't he still can't.
43:50
Technically, I thought they was they kept that as a Joel he still
43:52
kind of can't move his neck. I thought I was purposeful like Joe because
43:54
you know how he was turn turn something like that, Like he was definitely
44:00
doing that shit in this movie. I think that was the joke because he
44:02
was still struggling with it. But he looked great good, looked great,
44:07
like you said Supergirl looked amazed. And the flash Suite, because that was
44:10
it. I didn't really know. I didn't see enough for trailers, so
44:13
know what they really liked. And then when he first stepped on, I
44:16
was like, oh, you don't know, I'm great. And since that
44:21
slider right, it was absolutely the way they look in costume is absolutely incredible.
44:28
Yes, absolutely incredible. And like I told you know, we talked
44:31
about Ezra, but I will say I felt like this was the best version
44:35
they have done because I just found them wildly annoying in both versions of Justice.
44:39
Leagues think they wildly annoying. And I know that you connect, especially
44:44
because of the basic story about what the Flashpoint is about, which is about
44:49
you know, Barry trying to save his parents. That's no that's all that,
44:52
and that and his mom in particular and that, Yeah, that's always
44:55
been a connection, you know, especially you know as people who listen to
44:59
show know my mom has passed on, and so stories like that will always
45:04
get me, which is fucking every superhero story. So you know, it's
45:07
like that's something I'm had to deal with. Yeah, pretty much. You
45:10
know, your mom's got to go, you know, So that that touched
45:15
me and Ezra you know, did what But it wouldn't take much for me
45:19
to start balling if it's involved in somebody's moms. Don't judge, you know,
45:22
don't my reaction on it. It's not you know. Well, I
45:25
was quiet when you had mentioned that because of the reasons you stated, I
45:29
will say that I still didn't connect with him personally. And again, I
45:32
know the story already, so I knew all the stuff. So I was
45:36
just like, it's still valiant and commendable as a general story, and the
45:39
way that they did it they wrote it, well, I don't. I
45:43
did not connect with man's I don't. I was like, oh, too
45:45
bad for you. My nigga like him. Uh, Barry and iris West
45:51
had about as much chemistry as oil water I extreame. No, that might
46:00
be good on some cases. I respect paid by Kircy clements pizza and pineapples
46:05
for those who are haters, you know, It's just it wasn't there,
46:08
and I didn't understand her inclusion. And besides from story Percie, I didn't.
46:14
I didn't understand her inclusion in this film because it was also not required,
46:16
like literally legit. In my head, if you cut her out completely,
46:20
what did you miss? Nothing? There's her inclusion served no true perfect
46:24
And as I'm like really sitting there, recall it's been a full twenty four
46:28
hours since we've seen the film. And as I'm sitting there recalling, like
46:31
there was nothing of there was nothing of note that made sense of why she
46:37
had to be there. Did she changed? Was there any was her inclusion
46:43
directive of anything? No? It only served to remind me of how much
46:46
I hated her one scene in the Zach Snyder Justice League involving the hot Dog,
46:52
the infamous hot Dogs scene, which is so that just reminded me that,
46:57
oh yeah, that still exists. So that was the only thing that
47:00
this did for me. And I mean, she liked spurs on the plot
47:02
a little bit but you know, him getting slapped in the face for the
47:06
spurred on that plot. So it's I don't know, it was a way.
47:09
I mean, I'm happy for old girls. She got she got a
47:13
bag for showing up for for a few minutes, but like it was in
47:15
conferential yeah, so you know, um, and I can't see her.
47:22
I don't know. I mean they may get like she coming back, but
47:25
this Barry coming back. You know, there's a lot of questions for the
47:29
future of the Flash, and we'll see what happened. Um, y'all know
47:32
that General Zod is back ye in this film, that that's common knowledge,
47:37
that's actually public, um. And so the way that they introduced him,
47:43
I don't want to give that away. And and why, I mean that's
47:47
also public that it's very stuff and there's no superheroes in the world anymore,
47:53
so he has to find the superheroes to Deatzod. Okay, And so I've
47:58
I've always liked Michael Shannon as Odd. I've always loved his version aside,
48:01
if you want this shit to stop, you're gonna have to kill me,
48:04
my nigga. And that's why I like, I always was never like bad
48:08
mad about how Batman was acting in Man Still, I was like, this
48:12
nigga is not it's not fucking stopping, like you gotta you gotta go injustice
48:17
on him or it's a fucking rat for everybody, Like Billions, I've always
48:22
disagreed with that. I always feel like I get it that this man is
48:23
not stopping. But there's always tribute people who are not gonna stop, dart
48:28
Side being one of them, and Superman has always found a way to defeat
48:30
them and you know, bandished them away without killing them. So that I
48:37
like I have said this life, I mean, and I understand that that
48:39
goes against the general principle, and it's also what that road leads to.
48:44
That's where it did. That's why that's such a problem, because once Superman
48:47
starts deciding who lives and dies, it's over for humanity. Sure in the
48:52
story, I like about that action. Yeah you went in until it happened
48:57
to you because see that every everything else, Yeah, everybody likes said man,
49:04
if I havm fucking powers, I'm not your fucking savior. I but
49:10
if I got Superman powers, I mean, I really don't, and I
49:15
would helping everybody. I'm not. I'm just going to be very honest,
49:22
and it's not because people don't deserve the help and people don't deserve this,
49:24
and I'm not going to go high. I'm going to go low. I'm
49:28
going to go low for people who are low. Yeah, I don't know
49:32
what I would do Superman powers. It's very problematic no matter what you do,
49:36
because it's like humanity is going to destroy itself if somebody doesn't stop and
49:40
someone in my head, someone's always going to view even if you are a
49:44
saint quote unquote, someone will always view view you as the enemy. Someone
49:49
will always be a Lex Luther type where someone will always be like, you
49:52
can't trust them because they they they're not sharing their powers and they're not doing
49:57
this and they're not like you could be doing every in the world to end
50:00
hunger, but it's gonna be somebody fucking hating. But see, that's the
50:04
thing. If you just sit around and Humaney blows itself up with a nuclear
50:07
bomb, and you're probably gonna live forever because you're Superman. So you know
50:10
what, they some omniman shit at that point were you're like, well,
50:14
these niggas is just gonna kill themselves, like they just fucking pets at that
50:16
point, like you don't yeah, well, I mean that's you know,
50:20
it's it's like you have two tritions. Do you just sit around and wait
50:22
for them and blow himself up and you just sit there with a blowing up
50:24
world? Or do you stop them from blowing themselves up? Right? But
50:28
that's what I had said that and just to continue with my comment like it
50:31
wasn't to say don't help people. I was saying, like, don't matter
50:36
what you do, there's gonna be someone who's like, you're not doing enough
50:38
or you're not doing it for me. And at the same time Superman is
50:43
but one being right, like Superman don't make it to everybody either. There's
50:46
niggas in the streets that's still poor, still ain't got ship, and Superman
50:51
ain't come around and they block yet I don't know if he ever will tries,
50:55
yeah, but he just want to do so. And that's what I'm
50:59
saying where I'm like this and not for you know, not for nothing,
51:01
but like and also for the people who do get some someone to help they
51:05
don't like the way to help was a ministered like and that's why I was
51:07
like me and myself personally if I had the powers. I'm not y'all fucking
51:12
savior. I'm telling you that I will do my best for what I got,
51:15
but I am not. I am not gonna like I'm with y'all.
51:19
I'm not my best for what I not. I am not. But that's
51:28
that's beyond the point. Listen. Definitely that's good. Yeah, I think
51:30
that's all we can say about this movie. Pretty much. The Flash was
51:35
good FLA. Surprisingly, I didn't have to pay for us, so I
51:38
don't feel like I gave Ezra anybody any money. Even I feel weird,
51:44
even like like, ye know, it took me a long time to even
51:45
post my tweet last night because I was like, damn, I'm damn,
51:49
I don't want to promote this ship. Yeah this is And not to say
51:52
that we just promote anything just because of a job. It's just like,
51:57
I'm gonna tell the truth. Yeah, I'm gonna tell the truth. Yep.
52:00
Shout out to Mace on It Is what it Is podcast, who says
52:02
he's here to speak the truth. And I feel I'm the same way,
52:06
like I would let y'all know if this was some hot mess, you know,
52:09
and pretty much really enjoying myself. Now you can take the next step
52:15
and it'side. That's great that I mean in Tatiana, But I'm not out
52:20
there, you know, perfect do what you need to do. Yeah,
52:22
Mike, do what you want to do with information, and you're given pretty
52:27
much, you know what I mean. But yeah, I was surprised.
52:30
I was already hyped for the future of DC because James Dunn is over there.
52:35
Uh you know, Superman Legacy is coming out and it's allegedly based at
52:38
least inspired by All Stars Superman one of the greatest comments ever written. So
52:45
I'm super hype for that, and this is a good you know, I
52:50
don't really feel send off to the Snyder verse. It was, you know,
52:53
it's it's yeah, I didn't really feel like, yeah, I know
52:58
some people have said it did, but I I feel a little bit more
53:00
like a good story. And then because if if James John hadn't taken over,
53:05
like if Snyder's coming back, this could just as well be a reintroduction
53:07
into the Snyder I thought. I didn't even think about fucking Snyder versus at
53:12
all with this film. I just thought this is a good intro to clean
53:15
essentially clean slate. Yeah, that's what I mean. Whatever you wanted to
53:19
happen after the film could happen after the film. Yes, like if that
53:22
had been well, if that had been well, that'd be almost spoiled.
53:27
But you know, like at the end, there's like this big moment and
53:30
it's basically a big moment where it's like it could be Snyder's back, oh
53:35
shit, or you know, um, we're going back to the Christopher Reeves
53:38
Superman somehow oh shit, you know, or the whole world's turn animated and
53:43
now it's Tevin Conroy. You know. It's the ending is just it's a
53:47
clean slate folds. It's whatever you want now, whatever you want, whatever,
53:52
James John. But that's what's so hilarious that this movie was made and
53:54
finished before gunn ever came into it. So they were really like, whoever,
53:59
take it so for you know, you forget for you. And that's
54:04
why I'm also trying to understand, Like I understand by what I said earlier,
54:07
DC didness because they had to marvel because they wanted to. Diney did
54:12
it had to because it's just like fam we put ourselves in a in a
54:16
paradox. Also, we get out. I also want to say that Marvel,
54:21
you know, just through their first ten years have been unbelievably lucky,
54:27
you know, which which led them to have this idea where people can look
54:30
back and say that it's a plan, while it was really just things happening
54:35
to fall in place, and then it looks like you had a great plan
54:37
like this just at the beginning, but then there really truly was a plan.
54:42
But even that plan, like when you watch how things happen and how
54:45
each movie is made, Like there's a great series on Hulu right now that
54:49
describes pretty much up to aunt man, how each movie is made, and
54:52
even then it's like hoping this shit works so we can do this shit.
54:55
And then now as you see where they allegedly have on plan, does it
55:00
really feel like it, Well, it's just because it's because this Yeah,
55:07
sure, absolutely, That's that's all I'm saying. Like, also, that's
55:10
Marvel fatigue because their last few movies have been with the exception of Gardener,
55:15
But they had a plan, That's what I'm saying. But they had a
55:17
plan. But that don't mean the movies it's gonna be good, No,
55:20
no, of course, And I think but I want to make sure that's
55:22
separate, separate, that's separate, right, because there's been okay to good
55:27
DC movies here and there, but there was no plan. And now you
55:31
have a plan where you have some misses on the Marvel side. Right.
55:36
So they still claimed they got a plan, and I don't believe them as
55:37
much anymore. Now you don't mean it's like this, don't sound like a
55:42
this don't cohesive. Guys. I used to see you when y'all said y'all
55:47
a plan before I believe y'all Marvel. Now I'm like DC, they got
55:51
a plan, y'all. Tournaments are fantastic into fucking Veaccini didn't seem like a
55:58
plan. Guys. You know that was an amazing plan. I was so
56:01
fucked up, but it's so great, so great. Look that can be
56:06
part of the plan for everything. Listen, we're gonna, we're gonna,
56:07
We're gonna off the track? Um we are? Are you gonna? Are
56:12
you gonna wrap it up? I will say that I did feel so entertained
56:15
that I would see this movie again. I do want to. I don't
56:19
want to pay for it, No, I do kind of want to see
56:21
it again, just so I can see the finished cut to see if anything
56:24
truly changed in the courses, the credits and after credit scenes, assuming there
56:29
are and gets replaced, facts that would be fan fucking task and be worth
56:35
the price of admission alone alone. And I said, like I said,
56:37
we're gonna be honest with you about how we feels. It was great.
56:40
I still don't like the nigga like and the story for me, I was
56:44
so hoping that, like a black Wally West withdraw halfway through this movie.
56:51
Nah, brother, no reparations for you, also hoping for that. But
56:54
you know, alas, alas, that's a spoiler. The black Wally West
56:59
is not in this film. You know, there's a black Wally West in
57:00
the multiver I mean, you know, they like in a comic fact that
57:04
I think Wally West is black right now, and I think he was black
57:07
on the Flash show, yeah, made him back, yeah, and then
57:12
he made him black in the comics. So I was hoping for that when
57:15
the show and none of that, So that is yeah, yeah, all
57:21
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57:25
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