Latest / Callis Mindset with Kannon Callis / CM 20 Betting on Yourself: Overcoming Doubt, Taking Risks and Faith with Amanda Prescott
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back to Callus Mindset. Today's episode is special because
- 0:04Speaker 1: my guest is also family. I've actually been looking forward
- 0:07Speaker 1: to this one all year and we were going to
- 0:09Speaker 1: schedule a podcast episode in May, but when Mexico deep
- 0:13Speaker 1: sea fishing calls, you answer. Jokes aside, Amanda Prescott is
- 0:23Speaker 1: my mother-in-law. So this isn't an introduction between two people
- 0:27Speaker 1: getting to know each other. We've known each other the
- 0:29Speaker 1: better part of the last decade. And during that time,
- 0:32Speaker 1: our lives has changed. She's had a front row seat
- 0:35Speaker 1: to me and her daughter moving from Denver to Dallas
- 0:39Speaker 1: to Boise. And her business has grown and matured and
- 0:43Speaker 1: changed significantly as well. I've watched her journey, the relationship
- 0:47Speaker 1: she's built, the different chapters of life, the people she's
- 0:50Speaker 1: built it with. And a lot of things also haven't changed.
- 0:53Speaker 1: I've seen the characteristics, the habits, and the relationships she's
- 0:57Speaker 1: sustained during this time period as well. And I think
- 1:00Speaker 1: that plays a big part of her success. She's watched
- 1:03Speaker 1: my career evolve, like I said, three different states, going
- 1:06Speaker 1: from tech sales and medical compliance to hands-on testing in
- 1:10Speaker 1: the COVID industry to real estate and property management here
- 1:14Speaker 1: locally now. And during that time, a lot has changed.
- 1:18Speaker 1: We've talked quite a bit, we've stayed close, but we've
- 1:21Speaker 1: discussed some of the risks, the change in direction, the
- 1:24Speaker 1: people we've worked with, you know, personal life experiences as well.
- 1:27Speaker 1: And one thing I'm excited to discuss with her is
- 1:29Speaker 1: the people. Who we chose to surround ourselves with, the
- 1:33Speaker 1: opportunities that relationships can create, working with the right people,
- 1:38Speaker 1: and how those experiences really dictate who we become. Amanda's
- 1:42Speaker 1: own story has taken her from California to Michigan to
- 1:46Speaker 1: Idaho through some difficult periods, challenging times, relationships, career changes,
- 1:53Speaker 1: and exposure to real estate, ultimately building herself a career
- 1:57Speaker 1: in this industry. So rather than make this a formal interview,
- 2:01Speaker 1: we're hoping to have a conversation about her story, some
- 2:04Speaker 1: of the chapters that were hard, people and influences she's had,
- 2:08Speaker 1: and really what made it work along the way. Amanda,
- 2:11Speaker 1: welcome to Callous Mindset.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Hi, Cannon. Thank you for that introduction. And I am
- 2:16Speaker 2: so sorry that I had to cancel last minute in May.
- 2:22Speaker 1: That's OK. I know those trips are so rewarding and
- 2:25Speaker 1: fun and it's all good. You know, we're not going anywhere.
- 2:28Speaker 1: So before we go backward and go back years and
- 2:33Speaker 1: talk about your story and where it started, I want
- 2:35Speaker 1: to start today with what's your life look like now?
- 2:39Speaker 2: My life now is very full, very blessed. As you
- 2:45Speaker 2: just kind of mentioned, my oldest daughter is married. So
- 2:49Speaker 2: that's exciting. She's married to a wonderful you. We've got
- 2:54Speaker 2: two boys that are doing wonderful things. And our youngest
- 2:57Speaker 2: is in her senior year of high school and going
- 3:00Speaker 2: to be graduating. And so we're good. Life has really
- 3:04Speaker 2: taken us to a beautiful place. And we're truly blessed.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And it's, it's a blessing to be
- 3:10Speaker 1: part of a family that is doing things, not just
- 3:14Speaker 1: in work and, you know, grind, but also caring for
- 3:17Speaker 1: each other, living those experiences, you know, creating those memories
- 3:21Speaker 1: and from your career in real estate to family, Idaho,
- 3:26Speaker 1: you know, the lifestyle that we have here, what, you know,
- 3:30Speaker 1: what's next?
- 3:31Speaker 2: So yeah, here in Idaho. So when you asked, you know,
- 3:35Speaker 2: what's new? Yep. So I've been a real estate agent
- 3:39Speaker 2: here in Idaho since August of 2014. Did I just
- 3:44Speaker 2: say that? 2014. That's crazy. Because I just keep thinking
- 3:48Speaker 2: everything was like, you know, four or five years ago.
- 3:51Speaker 2: So yes, living here in the Treasure Valley. I am
- 3:57Speaker 2: back to being a solo agent. I pretty much plan
- 4:02Speaker 2: on staying that course. I think, uh, for right now,
- 4:06Speaker 2: I learned a lot from teams and I think there
- 4:09Speaker 2: are a great, you know, there's a lot of great
- 4:12Speaker 2: things and a lot of great aspects that teams have. Um,
- 4:15Speaker 2: but I think for now what the future holds is, um,
- 4:19Speaker 2: AP Realty kind of, uh, going strong and going towards, um, me, uh,
- 4:27Speaker 2: becoming something probably bigger than I even imagined. And so
- 4:32Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that I foresee in the
- 4:34Speaker 2: future with AP Realty. But for right now, the newest
- 4:38Speaker 2: is I left the team, left Remax, and I'm with
- 4:42Speaker 2: currently Homes of Idaho.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonderful. And I've watched every step of the
- 4:47Speaker 1: way for you for really almost 10 years now. And
- 4:52Speaker 1: I also was licensed originally. I started my education in 2014.
- 4:57Speaker 1: In Texas. And so it's really around the same timeframe.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Although you've been licensed consistently since then, you've been in
- 5:04Speaker 1: this as a full-time job. I've kind of hopped back
- 5:07Speaker 1: and forth and to watch what you've done with relationships,
- 5:11Speaker 1: building your business, AP Realty you've had since we met
- 5:15Speaker 1: and it's continuously been a thing. And I really like
- 5:17Speaker 1: your branding and what you've done with it.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 5:20Speaker 1: I've been to your client appreciation events. You know, like
- 5:23Speaker 1: I've actually got a chance to see some of this
- 5:24Speaker 1: stuff hands-on And it's, it's really impressive to see, but
- 5:29Speaker 1: also the changes are interesting to watch because I've seen
- 5:34Speaker 1: you be on, you know, specific team. I've seen you
- 5:37Speaker 1: be solo agent, certain brokerages. I really do like, I
- 5:41Speaker 1: like where you're at today. I like the brokerage you're with.
- 5:43Speaker 1: I know a couple of people over there. They're one
- 5:45Speaker 1: of the better ones that I know of. I really do.
- 5:47Speaker 1: And I think, I think you're right to stick with
- 5:49Speaker 1: your guns on the AP realty and know that it
- 5:53Speaker 1: is about developing you to hit that next level. Right, right.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yeah, AP Realty, it's just, it's who I am, right?
- 6:04Speaker 2: So I don't know how to get rid of that
- 6:07Speaker 2: part of me. So I think teams for a while,
- 6:11Speaker 2: it was like, yes, we accept people AP Realty, we
- 6:14Speaker 2: want to merge, you know, that brand together. But ultimately,
- 6:18Speaker 2: you know, a team, they've got a leader, they really
- 6:21Speaker 2: want to push their brand, which makes sense. I completely
- 6:24Speaker 2: get that. And rightfully so, right? I mean, but at
- 6:28Speaker 2: the same time, I've worked really hard for my brand.
- 6:34Speaker 1: It is about you. You make it what it is.
- 6:36Speaker 1: You're the face of your brand. And who you are
- 6:39Speaker 1: as a person, the relationships you're able to build and
- 6:43Speaker 1: really just how you make people feel, you know, for
- 6:45Speaker 1: a fact that how you are in the standard that
- 6:48Speaker 1: you represent is going to be reflected in your brand. It's, it's,
- 6:52Speaker 1: you know, it's synonymous with you. And that's the same
- 6:55Speaker 1: with me. I have a personal brand. It's Canon real estate.
- 6:58Speaker 1: There's nothing special about it, right? It's just the name.
- 7:00Speaker 1: That's actually really powerful. If, you know, especially with the
- 7:06Speaker 1: type of relationship builder that you are. And so Just
- 7:09Speaker 1: so everyone knows, AP Realty, Amanda Prescott, she's been here
- 7:13Speaker 1: doing it for 15 years nearly. It's over 12 years now.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Let's go back a little bit.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Okay.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Let's go back to California. Most people are coming from
- 7:25Speaker 1: California to Idaho, but we're going to metaphorically go back,
- 7:29Speaker 1: figuratively speaking. Okay. You started out there, right? Were you
- 7:33Speaker 1: born in California?
- 7:33Speaker 2: I was. I was born on a naval station, Lemoore.
- 7:38Speaker 2: So that's where I was born.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Does that mean your family's military?
- 7:44Speaker 2: Yes. Yep. I come from a fine military family. So
- 7:50Speaker 2: my father, Navy, grandpa, uncles, my brother, like I've just
- 7:58Speaker 2: got a long history, I guess you would say, in
- 8:01Speaker 2: the family with military. So yes, I come from that.
- 8:06Speaker 2: And I do think that even though saying like I was,
- 8:09Speaker 2: I guess, a military brat, I don't have a lot
- 8:14Speaker 2: of memories. I mean, I do, I shouldn't say a
- 8:16Speaker 2: lot of memories. I moved with my dad and my mom,
- 8:21Speaker 2: but we only moved one time and then back here
- 8:24Speaker 2: to Idaho. So it wasn't like, you know, I think
- 8:26Speaker 2: when I military brat that term, I think of like
- 8:30Speaker 2: my mom who was in San Diego back East, like
- 8:32Speaker 2: they were all over the place. We were in the
- 8:35Speaker 2: more in the San Joaquin Valley and then in Honolulu, Hawaii,
- 8:40Speaker 2: which was amazing. I have memories of that. And then
- 8:43Speaker 2: to Idaho and then, you know, so. Yeah, but California,
- 8:48Speaker 2: that's that's where I was born and that's where. My
- 8:52Speaker 2: family is all from on my mom's side, that is.
- 8:54Speaker 1: That makes sense.
- 8:56Speaker 2: And then.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I met you once here in Idaho. You're married to
- 8:59Speaker 1: Corey Prescott, who also veteran, you know, so it's, I've
- 9:06Speaker 1: seen the appreciation that you have for veterans. I've seen
- 9:10Speaker 1: the ongoing support that you do, the letters to veterans, the,
- 9:13Speaker 1: or even the letters to soldiers that are active. I've
- 9:17Speaker 1: seen the posts that you do the, you know, it just,
- 9:20Speaker 1: I can tell it's part of who you are, you know,
- 9:23Speaker 1: and that's the cool thing about personal brands is you
- 9:26Speaker 1: get to really put yourself into it and support the
- 9:30Speaker 1: causes that you support personally. And so I also have
- 9:33Speaker 1: quite a few family members that, you know, were veterans
- 9:36Speaker 1: or retired veterans. And at this point I can say
- 9:39Speaker 1: the cause is really, really strong. And if more people
- 9:42Speaker 1: had that, more people had that mentality, I really think
- 9:46Speaker 1: it would do a lot of giving back because I've
- 9:49Speaker 1: seen what you've done. We've been to some of those
- 9:51Speaker 1: events and it's amazing. So thank you for that, but
- 9:54Speaker 1: let's go back to California. Okay. you are in high
- 9:59Speaker 1: school and something happens before you graduate. And it's, you know,
- 10:06Speaker 1: the best thing to ever happen to me. But what
- 10:08Speaker 1: happened to you when you were 17?
- 10:11Speaker 2: Well, that best thing that happened to you was like
- 10:13Speaker 2: the biggest blessing in my life too. Um, she's the
- 10:16Speaker 2: best thing that happened to me. Uh, I was a teenage, uh, pregnancy. Um,
- 10:23Speaker 2: I feel like during that time when I was, um,
- 10:28Speaker 2: pregnant at 16, had a baby at 17. Um, you know,
- 10:33Speaker 2: I think the term, uh, a high school dropout. I mean,
- 10:37Speaker 2: I'm sure that's been probably something for a long time,
- 10:40Speaker 2: but more so that generation that I was in, it's like,
- 10:44Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're pregnant. You know, are the statistics
- 10:49Speaker 2: going to point that I'll be one of those high
- 10:50Speaker 2: school dropouts? Will I do anything with my life? But yes,
- 10:56Speaker 2: Ashley is one of the best things that happened to
- 11:00Speaker 2: me during high school. So got pregnant in California. She
- 11:06Speaker 2: was actually born in Hanford, California. And it's crazy because
- 11:14Speaker 2: I was there for a little bit. And that was
- 11:18Speaker 2: a hard time. That was a hard time. I think
- 11:21Speaker 2: in my mind, I envisioned her biological father and I
- 11:26Speaker 2: being together forever and raising this family. And unfortunately, that
- 11:32Speaker 2: did not happen. go as planned or go the way
- 11:35Speaker 2: that I was hoping for. And, you know, her dad
- 11:38Speaker 2: and I were both so young. But that's really what
- 11:43Speaker 2: I truly believed what happened. And life threw a curveball.
- 11:47Speaker 2: And I ended up being a single teenage mom. And
- 11:54Speaker 2: I was so thankful to have the support from my family.
- 11:58Speaker 2: My mom was around the day that I actually went
- 12:01Speaker 2: into labor with Ashley, which by the way, I have
- 12:04Speaker 2: her on my actual due date. I don't know a
- 12:06Speaker 2: lot of people that actually have their kiddos on their
- 12:08Speaker 2: actual due date itself. So the day that I went
- 12:13Speaker 2: into labor, her actual due date, my mom took a
- 12:16Speaker 2: new job in Michigan and off she went. And so
- 12:20Speaker 2: my grandma was there, my dad got on a plane
- 12:24Speaker 2: and came out and helped. And I had some just
- 12:29Speaker 2: amazing support from some really family. Friends, that was hard
- 12:35Speaker 2: because as you can probably imagine, 16, 17, who's going
- 12:40Speaker 2: to want to hang out with a pregnant girl, let
- 12:42Speaker 2: alone have a baby? Like, what do we have in
- 12:45Speaker 2: common now? So I, yeah, did that for a little
- 12:50Speaker 2: bit there with my grandma in California and eventually realized
- 12:55Speaker 2: that where I wanted to go with my life was
- 12:59Speaker 2: exactly where a shift that I needed. So I was
- 13:02Speaker 2: not going to be one of those high school statistics. Um,
- 13:07Speaker 2: so yeah, my dad came and picked me up and
- 13:10Speaker 2: Ashley and I came to Idaho and I started high
- 13:13Speaker 2: school here in Idaho. And the scariest part about that
- 13:17Speaker 2: was the little town of Eagle, Idaho, um, then was
- 13:23Speaker 2: such a small little farm town. And, you know, Eagle
- 13:27Speaker 2: high school is like, I don't know what to do
- 13:29Speaker 2: with you here, but Eagle Academy and my grades and
- 13:32Speaker 2: transcripts are all over the place. So when you think
- 13:35Speaker 2: of an alternative school, I don't know about you, but
- 13:39Speaker 2: I kind of think like maybe bad kids. And I'm like,
- 13:44Speaker 2: I'm not a bad kid. I just have a baby.
- 13:48Speaker 2: But you know what? That school was the best thing
- 13:52Speaker 2: for me and Ashley. And I am so grateful for
- 13:55Speaker 2: Eagle Academy. Wow.
- 13:57Speaker 1: That was a lot to unpack there.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 14:00Speaker 2: I just gave it all to you right there.
- 14:02Speaker 1: That's okay. It's good information. And it's you just telling
- 14:05Speaker 1: your experience, how you recall it. And the things I
- 14:09Speaker 1: pick up there are having a baby at a young
- 14:13Speaker 1: age where you're still learning who you are. You're still
- 14:16Speaker 1: not quite an adult, especially at that age, 16, 17.
- 14:19Speaker 1: There's studies today that show that people were becoming adults
- 14:25Speaker 1: at a slower rate than they used to because we're
- 14:28Speaker 1: in sort of a softer kind of more coddling society.
- 14:31Speaker 1: And they're saying 30, 30 years old is the new
- 14:36Speaker 1: pretty much 18 or 20. Wow. And, and to think
- 14:39Speaker 1: that you were roughly half that age, you know, still
- 14:43Speaker 1: going through a lot of changes in your mind and
- 14:45Speaker 1: your body and everything else, you know, as a teenager,
- 14:47Speaker 1: plus you're going through moving across the country, you're going
- 14:51Speaker 1: through being responsible for another human. it makes me just
- 14:54Speaker 1: think of you, you were kind of forced to probably
- 14:56Speaker 1: grow up faster because of that. You know, the, the
- 14:59Speaker 1: thinking about the money and the sacrifice and survival and
- 15:03Speaker 1: the judgment from other people and will my support system
- 15:06Speaker 1: have my back? And if, you know, there's a, there's
- 15:10Speaker 1: a scope there too, you know, someone could have your back,
- 15:12Speaker 1: but then say it, but not mean it. But then
- 15:15Speaker 1: there's also some judgment, you know, and especially from parents.
- 15:17Speaker 1: And I don't, I know your parents, I'm not going
- 15:19Speaker 1: to say that how they reacted because I wasn't there,
- 15:21Speaker 1: but yeah, We're not.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Thrilled about the news. I can tell you that. But
- 15:25Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine like now, right? My kids,
- 15:28Speaker 2: if one of them was to come home and be like,
- 15:30Speaker 2: so I'm pregnant. What? It's not the card you would hold,
- 15:37Speaker 2: you know, in hopes for your child. So I, now
- 15:40Speaker 2: that I'm the adult, right? I can, there's so much
- 15:43Speaker 2: grace for my parents and not that their reaction was horrible,
- 15:46Speaker 2: but I mean, obviously they were not like, wow, this
- 15:49Speaker 2: is great news.
- 15:51Speaker 1: It's hard to accept. a truth that is so sobering
- 15:56Speaker 1: that you, you really just, you repicture your entire future. Yeah. Like,
- 16:02Speaker 1: like where do we go from here? Our daughter has
- 16:04Speaker 1: a baby, you know, where does, what's she going to do?
- 16:05Speaker 1: Cause they're, they have concerns for you as well. I
- 16:08Speaker 1: know you're, you know, obviously you're the one first person
- 16:10Speaker 1: going through it. It's an insane experience. I can't imagine, but.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Very scary.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Terrifying.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Yeah. I just, I, I remember the day that I
- 16:21Speaker 2: found out and I, I just knew my life was
- 16:26Speaker 2: going to change. And, you know, when you, when you
- 16:30Speaker 2: have influences or people in your life that are like, well,
- 16:33Speaker 2: what are you going to do? You have options. Well,
- 16:36Speaker 2: the way I was raised in my option is the keeper.
- 16:40Speaker 2: I mean, to raise her, to love her. And I'm
- 16:43Speaker 2: going to have to work really hard and I'm going
- 16:45Speaker 2: to have to make sure that I am not one
- 16:48Speaker 2: of those kids that is a dropout. I have to
- 16:50Speaker 2: make sure that she has everything and I have to focus.
- 16:56Speaker 2: I mean, I, I don't want to paint this picture
- 16:58Speaker 2: that I was like a perfect child by any means.
- 17:01Speaker 2: I mean, I was, I was, I was pretty wild,
- 17:05Speaker 2: shy and quiet. And I hit the teen years and
- 17:07Speaker 2: I was, I was, I was a handful and yeah.
- 17:13Speaker 2: So she calmed me. I actually, I believe she's saving
- 17:18Speaker 2: grace for me at that time because I was just
- 17:21Speaker 2: all over the place, you know, and, um, she, she
- 17:26Speaker 2: made me who I am today and just very focused
- 17:28Speaker 2: and very driven and wanting to make sure that everything
- 17:33Speaker 2: is for the best for my family. Right. You just,
- 17:36Speaker 2: once you have that drive, I don't, you just don't,
- 17:41Speaker 2: you don't get rid of that. It's there forever.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Um, yeah, I, want to ask at what point did
- 17:48Speaker 1: you make the conscious effort and decision in your mind
- 17:52Speaker 1: that I'm going to, I'm not going to be another statistic.
- 17:56Speaker 1: I'm going to make something of myself. Like, how did
- 17:57Speaker 1: that come about? Cause that's, that's a mindset move.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, so when I found out I was pregnant,
- 18:04Speaker 2: I was already almost roughly about four months. Um, so
- 18:09Speaker 2: it wasn't I mean, it's not like, you know, some
- 18:12Speaker 2: people when they find out you're just a couple weeks.
- 18:14Speaker 2: I mean, I was four months along. I knew the
- 18:17Speaker 2: due date. I knew school. I think in my mind,
- 18:23Speaker 2: I just thought, okay, I have these like timelines. And
- 18:26Speaker 2: then once I actually gave birth and had her and
- 18:30Speaker 2: saw her, that part of me that felt very selfish,
- 18:38Speaker 2: like how could I love anything or anybody else? I mean,
- 18:42Speaker 2: once I saw her, I just knew. So it's, I mean,
- 18:47Speaker 2: just when you, you have that experience of holding, you know,
- 18:50Speaker 2: your child in your arms for the first time and
- 18:52Speaker 2: you just look at them and they're here and just
- 18:55Speaker 2: perfect and healthy. And you're like, I, I have to
- 18:58Speaker 2: do everything I can to make sure that she's safe, loved, protected,
- 19:02Speaker 2: has everything she needs. And that meant sacrifice. And it
- 19:08Speaker 2: wasn't easy. Um, I still wanted to be a kid.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I still wanted to go out, but I learned that
- 19:14Speaker 2: people didn't always want to go and hang out and daycare.
- 19:18Speaker 2: I mean, my parents weren't going to be built in
- 19:20Speaker 2: babysitters for me, you know, to go out. So I think,
- 19:25Speaker 2: I think I had a good balance of support. Um, my,
- 19:29Speaker 2: my dad and step-mom and my mom all really came
- 19:32Speaker 2: together and helped. And if I wanted to go out,
- 19:34Speaker 2: I was still able to be a teenager. Um, Eagle Academy, um,
- 19:41Speaker 2: allowed me towards the end, because you're only allowed to
- 19:45Speaker 2: miss so many days in school, right? Think about this
- 19:47Speaker 2: as a student. And so when my kid was sick
- 19:52Speaker 2: it's not like I could send her to daycare so
- 19:56Speaker 2: there were times where Eagle Academy um there were teachers
- 19:59Speaker 2: that I mean I I I honestly give so much
- 20:03Speaker 2: like love and grace because they allowed me to bring
- 20:06Speaker 2: this baby into a classroom. My fellow peers that were
- 20:12Speaker 2: fine with a little baby being in a car seat
- 20:14Speaker 2: while I'm trying to study and learn math, you know?
- 20:17Speaker 2: And so I feel like that, that school was probably
- 20:23Speaker 2: the best thing for me. I got to know people and,
- 20:26Speaker 2: you know, looking back now, honestly, that small graduating class,
- 20:33Speaker 2: a lot of those kids that I went to school with,
- 20:35Speaker 2: I see on social media and they're doing amazing things
- 20:37Speaker 2: with their life. So I think there's such a benefit
- 20:39Speaker 2: sometimes to having that smaller classroom size. And, you know,
- 20:43Speaker 2: I don't think we were bad kids, I think. And
- 20:45Speaker 2: I don't even believe in that term, bad kids. I
- 20:47Speaker 2: think there's bad choices, right?
- 20:49Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Which was bothersome to me because I felt like either
- 20:56Speaker 2: I was the bad kid or it was labeled as
- 20:59Speaker 2: Ashley was the bad choice. And I'm like, Ashley is
- 21:01Speaker 2: not the bad choice and I'm not a bad kid.
- 21:04Speaker 1: So.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Alternative education placement or whatever you want to call it.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Believe it or not, when I was a teenager, I
- 21:14Speaker 1: also was expelled from school in middle school.
- 21:18Speaker 2: I school.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Yeah. I was an eighth grader and I was arrested
- 21:22Speaker 1: off the football field at football practice and, For a
- 21:25Speaker 1: prank that I pulled, it was a dumb idea. It
- 21:28Speaker 1: didn't hurt anyone. It was just a joke. And ultimately,
- 21:32Speaker 1: it was put into 60 days of alternative education placement,
- 21:37Speaker 1: which 60 school days is not 60 calendar days. It
- 21:42Speaker 1: was the rest of the year, like all the way
- 21:44Speaker 1: through Christmas. And it was just a strange thing to
- 21:48Speaker 1: experience alternative education placement because I was a good kid,
- 21:51Speaker 1: you know, like a good kid, whatever that means. I
- 21:54Speaker 1: didn't get in trouble. until that point. And like I said,
- 21:58Speaker 1: it was a prank. It was a joke. Didn't hurt anybody,
- 22:01Speaker 1: but it was misunderstood as, well, I'll just tell you
- 22:05Speaker 1: what I did. Yeah.
- 22:05Speaker 2: I'm like, now I want to know. I'm like, do
- 22:07Speaker 2: tell me.
- 22:07Speaker 1: It's one of those things that you don't want to
- 22:10Speaker 1: tell the public because it's humiliating and embarrassing, but I
- 22:13Speaker 1: did it. So I got to claim it. I, the
- 22:16Speaker 1: day after my friend did it as a joke, I
- 22:18Speaker 1: copied him. He'd in a water bottle said it was
- 22:21Speaker 1: green tea, gave it to one of our friends as
- 22:23Speaker 1: a joke to drink. They didn't drink it, but it
- 22:26Speaker 1: was passed as assault with a bodily injury weapon or
- 22:30Speaker 1: something like that. Tried to slap a felony on it
- 22:34Speaker 1: from the police officer. There was our campus cop and
- 22:37Speaker 1: that got dismissed, but did get kicked out of school
- 22:40Speaker 1: 60 days. I never got in trouble again after that
- 22:46Speaker 1: point in my life because my parents died. basically doubled
- 22:49Speaker 1: down and I, it wasn't just 60 days. I was
- 22:51Speaker 1: like the rest of the year, I couldn't go out
- 22:52Speaker 1: of the house. And so, Oh my gosh.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Okay. Wait, so was this, was this in Texas?
- 22:58Speaker 1: It was Lake, Lake Dallas.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Hey, we'll see. There's something new I learned about you.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I don't share that story often, but
- 23:08Speaker 1: because I can relate to being expelled or, you know,
- 23:12Speaker 1: put into alternative education placement. The only problem is, is
- 23:16Speaker 1: it was one big room It was grades six through 12. Right.
- 23:22Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to speak at all. It was silence
- 23:26Speaker 1: or you get kicked out. And kind of.
- 23:28Speaker 2: Like detention in a way, because like in detention, like
- 23:30Speaker 2: there's no talking.
- 23:31Speaker 1: It was it was a long term detention. We were
- 23:34Speaker 1: allowed to read books. We weren't allowed to talk to
- 23:37Speaker 1: our neighbors ever. We weren't allowed to ask the teacher
- 23:39Speaker 1: questions unless there was a serious question on a test
- 23:42Speaker 1: that we just didn't understand and like how to actually
- 23:44Speaker 1: answer it. And then complete silence was required. But I
- 23:49Speaker 1: can tell you one thing. I learned how to teach myself.
- 23:52Speaker 1: I learned how to read really well. And I got
- 23:54Speaker 1: straight A's the rest of that year.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Wow, that is amazing.
- 23:59Speaker 1: But we were the bad kids. Like I was in
- 24:01Speaker 1: there because of a joke, a prank, but there were
- 24:03Speaker 1: kids that were getting in fights, you know, selling drugs.
- 24:06Speaker 1: I don't know what else, but I knew a couple
- 24:09Speaker 1: of them because they were not necessarily the good ones.
- 24:11Speaker 1: But I just have, oh, go ahead, sorry. Yeah. You
- 24:15Speaker 1: just get judged, you know, like what did he do?
- 24:18Speaker 1: He must be the worst kid ever. Yeah. Yeah.
- 24:20Speaker 2: And you're like, no, honestly, like it was just a
- 24:22Speaker 2: prank gone wrong and nobody like, like drank it or
- 24:25Speaker 2: anything like that.
- 24:27Speaker 1: And that's the truth is if I would feel worse
- 24:30Speaker 1: if someone did drink it or if something happened because
- 24:33Speaker 1: of it, even though it's not dangerous, it's still, that's gross.
- 24:37Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that to happen to me. You know?
- 24:39Speaker 2: Yeah. We were just like all these things that kids do.
- 24:43Speaker 1: This was 20 years ago.
- 24:47Speaker 2: So I wasn't like selling drugs. I wasn't getting into fights.
- 24:53Speaker 2: Like I don't have like, can you imagine like, so
- 24:56Speaker 2: I come from a background where I'm like selling drugs.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:03Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I wasn't any of that. No. When
- 25:07Speaker 2: I said like, I was a wild child. I mean,
- 25:08Speaker 2: I just, I just didn't want to be in class.
- 25:12Speaker 2: I didn't want to be at school. And I'm trying
- 25:14Speaker 2: to think at like what point that happened because I
- 25:18Speaker 2: was always pretty quiet and reserved until I wasn't. And
- 25:23Speaker 2: then it was like, I had better things to do, right. Um,
- 25:26Speaker 2: than be at school and run away, sneaking out, um,
- 25:32Speaker 2: hard going to parties, things like that. Like, honestly, like
- 25:36Speaker 2: some of the stuff I did back in the day,
- 25:37Speaker 2: I am, I, I, it's, it's a miracle I'm alive, actually.
- 25:41Speaker 2: I mean, I put myself in some pretty stupid situations, so.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, they say, they say that strong-willed people, sometimes
- 25:50Speaker 1: the most rebellious, they're also leaders of their own life
- 25:53Speaker 1: and they're going to live life their own way, learn
- 25:55Speaker 1: their own lessons. And sometimes that makes you a stronger person.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's, that's the truth. I believe in
- 26:04Speaker 2: that for sure, because I learned some hard lessons.
- 26:07Speaker 1: I believe it's from teenage years.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Yeah. When I graduated high school from Eagle Academy, I,
- 26:17Speaker 2: so my grades, because I said I didn't really like
- 26:19Speaker 2: to be at school, my grades were not necessarily fantastic.
- 26:25Speaker 2: But when I graduated, I actually graduated at the top
- 26:28Speaker 2: of my class, top of the state. And there was
- 26:31Speaker 2: an award given to me. And it was signed by
- 26:35Speaker 2: our president at the time. So let's go back to
- 26:38Speaker 2: graduating class of 1998. That was signed by Bill Clinton.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Wow.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Oh, it was called the Academic Student Achievement Award. And
- 26:47Speaker 2: so that was something I was so proud of when
- 26:51Speaker 2: I graduated, especially with a baby. And another fun fact
- 26:57Speaker 2: that maybe a lot of people don't know this about me.
- 27:04Speaker 2: Because Ashley had ear infections and was sick. And eventually
- 27:07Speaker 2: I couldn't bring her to school. And I couldn't not
- 27:12Speaker 2: be at school. And I couldn't just not finish school.
- 27:17Speaker 2: So my mom, the amazing person that she is, actually
- 27:23Speaker 2: offered to take Ashley for about the last month and
- 27:27Speaker 2: a half of my senior year. So she came out
- 27:31Speaker 2: from Michigan, flew out. picked her up from Idaho and
- 27:35Speaker 2: took her to Michigan so I could finish high school.
- 27:40Speaker 2: And that was really hard for me. That was hard.
- 27:46Speaker 2: And I don't like to ask for help, but I
- 27:49Speaker 2: knew in order to like move forward and be successful
- 27:53Speaker 2: and have that high school diploma, I was going to
- 27:56Speaker 2: have to do something. And so Ashley being away from
- 28:01Speaker 2: me at that point in my life was very, very difficult.
- 28:05Speaker 2: But I am forever grateful, like I said, for the
- 28:09Speaker 2: support that I have and had from my mom with Ashley.
- 28:13Speaker 2: And then we were reunited. And once I graduated high
- 28:17Speaker 2: school from Eagle Academy, I decided I wanted to go
- 28:21Speaker 2: on to college in Michigan. So yeah, that was my
- 28:26Speaker 2: next path. And I don't even... know when that came
- 28:29Speaker 2: to be because like looking at Bailey, like preparing for
- 28:34Speaker 2: college her senior year right now, like colleges and what
- 28:38Speaker 2: she wants to do. I don't remember that in high school.
- 28:42Speaker 2: Like it was, here's how to balance a checkbook and
- 28:45Speaker 2: here's how to make a resume. And what do you
- 28:48Speaker 2: want to do? Like there was no prepping, nothing like that. So, um, Yeah,
- 28:57Speaker 2: I was like, I think I want to go into
- 28:59Speaker 2: dental assisting dental hygiene or be a dental hygienist. Excuse me.
- 29:03Speaker 2: So Michigan's got a good program. So off Ashley and
- 29:09Speaker 2: I went and gotten to Ferris State University for dental
- 29:16Speaker 2: assisting program.
- 29:19Speaker 1: And that's when you made it to Michigan.
- 29:21Speaker 2: That's when I made it to Michigan. So left Idaho
- 29:24Speaker 2: and on to Michigan for college with a little over
- 29:30Speaker 2: a one-year-old. So yeah, got to Michigan. And then all
- 29:35Speaker 2: those ear infections Ashley had as a baby, like little,
- 29:38Speaker 2: little baby. Yep. We then went into surgery and she
- 29:41Speaker 2: had tubes put in and that was an ordeal I
- 29:44Speaker 2: remember that too but yeah um I couldn't live on
- 29:49Speaker 2: the dorms like the college housing for the dorms. So
- 29:53Speaker 2: they put me, um, because in a dorm, you think
- 29:57Speaker 2: about it, they're kids. Um, so you can't have a
- 29:59Speaker 2: college student bringing in a baby into a dorm. So
- 30:03Speaker 2: I was sent over to married housing, just not married. Wow.
- 30:09Speaker 1: That's great. Like you're not married, but you got a baby.
- 30:11Speaker 2: I got a baby. And I just remember looking around going, well,
- 30:14Speaker 2: this is, this is what it's like, I guess, to
- 30:17Speaker 2: be around all these like married people and right. I'm
- 30:20Speaker 2: with the baby.
- 30:23Speaker 1: My parents lived in married housing too in their dorms
- 30:26Speaker 1: in college.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Were your parents married in college?
- 30:30Speaker 1: They were.
- 30:30Speaker 2: Okay. So they got to be on like the married housing. Yeah.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Yeah, they did.
- 30:35Speaker 2: I love that.
- 30:36Speaker 1: They went to the same school. I know they went
- 30:39Speaker 1: to the same school the second half of college, like
- 30:41Speaker 1: the last two years. My dad started at a different school.
- 30:45Speaker 1: And then my dad met my mom when she was 18.
- 30:48Speaker 1: And that's when they got engaged. It was like pretty quick.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Wow. Okay.
- 30:52Speaker 1: They've been together since she was 18 and they just
- 30:55Speaker 1: hit their 37 year anniversary this month. And it's crazy
- 30:59Speaker 1: that that's still a thing because I don't, I can't
- 31:03Speaker 1: name very many other people, maybe a handful that have
- 31:07Speaker 1: stayed together that long. And it's almost hard to find today.
- 31:11Speaker 1: So it is.
- 31:12Speaker 2: Yeah. So cheers to Scott and Michelle on your 37th
- 31:16Speaker 2: wedding anniversary.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Yeah. Cheers parents. And then also I want to talk about,
- 31:21Speaker 1: What happened after Michigan? Because I think that's a gap
- 31:25Speaker 1: I don't know. I know you ended up back in
- 31:27Speaker 1: Idaho or maybe California. Like what happened next?
- 31:30Speaker 2: So Michigan, yep. College life. I would, so my mom
- 31:40Speaker 2: was in Michigan. Like I said, she took that amazing
- 31:42Speaker 2: job offer when I was in California and labor with Ashley.
- 31:46Speaker 2: So she was in Michigan. My dad and stepmom were
- 31:49Speaker 2: in Idaho. My other family members of my mom's family
- 31:55Speaker 2: were still in California. Family and holidays have always been
- 32:02Speaker 2: something that were really important growing up in my childhood,
- 32:07Speaker 2: adolescent life. So Thanksgiving, Christmas, those were all big time
- 32:16Speaker 2: family gatherings, right? Everybody got to be together. And so
- 32:20Speaker 2: my mom would still go back to California and I
- 32:23Speaker 2: would go back and see family still. And I would
- 32:25Speaker 2: come back and see my, you know, my parents here
- 32:28Speaker 2: in Idaho as well. But, uh, eventually I met somebody
- 32:35Speaker 2: and that was Manny. That is Aaron's dad. And we
- 32:40Speaker 2: actually met when I was in California trying to get
- 32:44Speaker 2: back home to Michigan and there was a crazy snow storm.
- 32:46Speaker 2: And so, um, I couldn't get on that flight. And
- 32:53Speaker 2: speaking of being like my cousin, I'll never forget this.
- 33:00Speaker 2: She was like, well, you're 20 and, but you can't drink.
- 33:05Speaker 2: You can't get into a bar, but you can use
- 33:07Speaker 2: one of my IDs. So let's just make you look 21.
- 33:10Speaker 2: So I used, and we look very similar. So I
- 33:12Speaker 2: used her ID to get into this bar and that's
- 33:14Speaker 2: how I met. Manny at the time. And she actually
- 33:19Speaker 2: went to high school with Manny. So when I met him,
- 33:22Speaker 2: it was like comfortable, I guess, because my cousin knew him,
- 33:27Speaker 2: they all went to school together. So yeah, once I
- 33:30Speaker 2: met him, um, I mean, I still was going to
- 33:33Speaker 2: school in Michigan and eventually when I was done, I
- 33:36Speaker 2: moved out to California to be with Manny. And so
- 33:41Speaker 2: Ashley went there with that. And Manny shaped a big
- 33:46Speaker 2: part of that period of my life as well. So
- 33:51Speaker 2: after I moved here, when Ashley was born, I had
- 33:56Speaker 2: some contact with her biological dad, but not a lot.
- 34:02Speaker 2: And so when I went back to California, Manny was
- 34:07Speaker 2: very accepting of Ashley. he was great to Ashley and
- 34:14Speaker 2: just made sure that we were taken care of. I
- 34:18Speaker 2: think people thought, wow, you're with somebody that's so much older.
- 34:21Speaker 2: And at that time, I guess, looking back, I never
- 34:25Speaker 2: thought of it like that. It was just somebody my
- 34:28Speaker 2: own age, we weren't doing the same things, right? I mean,
- 34:32Speaker 2: they're all partying in their twenties and sure that's fun,
- 34:36Speaker 2: but I still have a baby to take care of
- 34:39Speaker 2: and work and responsibility and So Manny during that time
- 34:45Speaker 2: was someone that was great. And I guess kind of, um,
- 34:52Speaker 2: that acceptance of feeling like, okay, I can date, I
- 34:56Speaker 2: can be in a relationship with somebody and feel accepted
- 34:59Speaker 2: for having a child, um, and it not being their own. So, um, yeah,
- 35:04Speaker 2: so that, that time period was, was definitely a shaping
- 35:09Speaker 2: moment for and my life for me and as well
- 35:12Speaker 2: for Ashley. And so, yeah, I was there for, for
- 35:16Speaker 2: a while. And then eventually we got married and had Aaron. Yeah.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Aaron's your, your second child. Um, today he's a general
- 35:28Speaker 1: contractor here in Canyon County and Ada too, you know,
- 35:32Speaker 1: in Boise area. Um, great kid. I've known him since
- 35:35Speaker 1: he was, I think 13 or 14. Like it's, I've
- 35:39Speaker 1: known him since he was very young too. And I've
- 35:41Speaker 1: known most of your kids since they were much younger,
- 35:42Speaker 1: but yes, a little it's I've also met Manny's many,
- 35:46Speaker 1: many times. Like it's, it's cool. Can you tell me
- 35:49Speaker 1: a little bit about, was he in real estate at
- 35:50Speaker 1: that time when y'all were together?
- 35:52Speaker 2: Yes.
- 35:52Speaker 1: Yep.
- 35:53Speaker 2: So I tried the dental assisting job that I did
- 35:58Speaker 2: for a little bit. I actually landed a job in
- 36:00Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, a dental office there, but it was more
- 36:04Speaker 2: like endo type work. And Endo, it's more oral surgery.
- 36:11Speaker 2: And I guess in my mind, I'm like, assisting with
- 36:15Speaker 2: a dentist is one thing versus assisting like an oral surgeon, right?
- 36:20Speaker 2: So fun fact about me, like, I'm pretty squeamish. Like,
- 36:23Speaker 2: I don't, I don't like needles. I don't like blood.
- 36:26Speaker 2: I don't like any of that. So Trying to assist
- 36:30Speaker 2: a doctor during oral surgery was probably not my calling. Now,
- 36:34Speaker 2: what I was really good at was disinfecting the room
- 36:36Speaker 2: and paperwork. So I did that for a little bit
- 36:40Speaker 2: and eventually got a job at the airline industry with
- 36:43Speaker 2: an airline. And Manny was into real estate and worked
- 36:51Speaker 2: with a lot of different buyers, sellers. Back then, there
- 36:57Speaker 2: wasn't a GPS. there was the Thomas guide. And so
- 37:02Speaker 2: I remember going to work with him in areas of
- 37:07Speaker 2: California that I'm like, Oh my God, this is crazy.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Like Compton, you know, Long Beach. So I got to
- 37:14Speaker 2: firsthand experience that. And I remember at some point, when
- 37:21Speaker 2: we were together, he was like, you know, real estate
- 37:24Speaker 2: is something that you could look at, at some point,
- 37:27Speaker 2: if you want it, I think you'd probably be really
- 37:28Speaker 2: good at it. And I just kind of thought, Oh,
- 37:32Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, like, I just kind of
- 37:33Speaker 2: pushed that back. Because at that point, after the dental
- 37:38Speaker 2: thing didn't really work out, I really didn't pursue like
- 37:40Speaker 2: an office with just dental assisting. I thought, Oh, you
- 37:44Speaker 2: know what, I want to be a flight attendant. This
- 37:46Speaker 2: is going to be great. I love to travel. I'm
- 37:48Speaker 2: going to be a flight attendant. So I really put
- 37:51Speaker 2: a lot of my time and energy into becoming a
- 37:54Speaker 2: flight attendant. That was my goal. But yeah, Manny exposed
- 37:59Speaker 2: me to all of the real estate side of that
- 38:03Speaker 2: in California when we were together many, many years ago. Cool.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Yeah, I've met him. We've talked about real estate. I've
- 38:10Speaker 1: watched him develop real estate, even during COVID, which was
- 38:13Speaker 1: a nightmare in Los Angeles.
- 38:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen some of the struggles and some of
- 38:18Speaker 1: the huge victories he's had as well.
- 38:20Speaker 2: Right.
- 38:20Speaker 1: And I know that that's just in the last 10 years.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Back then, it was probably very different when people were
- 38:27Speaker 1: much younger, getting established. But to have that proximity to
- 38:31Speaker 1: real estate early on might have been a big leg up.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think so because
- 38:40Speaker 2: I look back and anything that I've done with work
- 38:44Speaker 2: has always been customer service oriented, right? Everything that I've
- 38:50Speaker 2: done has been around others. It's learning to read people,
- 38:56Speaker 2: read a room. I might read people, get to know people.
- 39:00Speaker 2: It's that customer service component. is like something that I
- 39:06Speaker 2: learned very, very young, just from.
- 39:08Speaker 1: Work, right?
- 39:11Speaker 2: Being around people and talking to people. So I think
- 39:18Speaker 2: even if I felt a little bit unsure of myself,
- 39:20Speaker 2: as far as like customer service goes from like, you know,
- 39:24Speaker 2: you think about, because I worked in the bank industry,
- 39:27Speaker 2: you know, airlines, and so it's just learning to see
- 39:31Speaker 2: how you can best help people I think that's really
- 39:34Speaker 2: what customer service is right is helping those whatever that
- 39:38Speaker 2: product does right is it a resolving a flight issue
- 39:41Speaker 2: is it a delay is it okay do you need
- 39:44Speaker 2: a refund because your checking account was overdrawn like it's
- 39:47Speaker 2: just it's learning how you can help people Yeah.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Yeah. Helping people and solving problems, us versus the problem.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Right.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Making it a smooth experience when things aren't going well.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Right.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Cool. Well, I want to continue. And we only have
- 40:05Speaker 1: a couple more topics, but how did you end up
- 40:08Speaker 1: in Idaho? And, you know, tell me about how you
- 40:11Speaker 1: met Corey and kind of what's happened, you know, in
- 40:13Speaker 1: this last chapter of your life since coming here.
- 40:16Speaker 2: So I left California.
- 40:18Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Gosh, it was probably right around. So Aaron was born
- 40:22Speaker 2: in 2004. It's crazy. He's going to be 22 this week.
- 40:30Speaker 2: So 2005 is when I moved out here to Idaho.
- 40:35Speaker 2: I say out here, back to Idaho. I realized when
- 40:38Speaker 2: I was going through the divorce with Manny that As
- 40:43Speaker 2: a single parent living in California on my income alone
- 40:48Speaker 2: was just going to be a struggle and not with one,
- 40:53Speaker 2: you know, kiddo now, now two, I've got two, two
- 40:56Speaker 2: littles to take care of. And so I needed to
- 41:00Speaker 2: figure out how I could do that. And also I,
- 41:03Speaker 2: as much as I loved California and there's still so
- 41:06Speaker 2: many things that I love about it, I didn't know
- 41:08Speaker 2: if that was the best place for me to take
- 41:10Speaker 2: care of my kids, raise them essentially. Um, so I
- 41:17Speaker 2: came back here to Idaho, um, lived with my, my
- 41:20Speaker 2: dad and step-mom for just a little bit until I
- 41:21Speaker 2: found my own apartment. That is crazy. That apartment that
- 41:25Speaker 2: I used to rent off of state street, I think
- 41:29Speaker 2: was like 600 bucks a month for a two bedroom.
- 41:34Speaker 2: I can't even like, can you imagine like finding an
- 41:36Speaker 2: apartment now for two bedroom for 600 bucks? Like that's
- 41:41Speaker 2: just wild to me.
- 41:43Speaker 1: Doesn't exist here.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that crazy? It's wild. So yeah, I ended
- 41:49Speaker 2: up meeting Corey through my dad. And my dad works
- 41:55Speaker 2: out at Nipsey. And my dad was a supervisor. And
- 41:59Speaker 2: so I met Corey through my dad. I saw a
- 42:03Speaker 2: picture of Corey at first in my dad's office. I
- 42:06Speaker 2: say my dad's office. It'll probably always be my dad's
- 42:09Speaker 2: office because I just think of that office as my
- 42:11Speaker 2: dad's from being a kid. but there's like a bulletin
- 42:15Speaker 2: board and there's photos of like all the employees. And
- 42:18Speaker 2: I remember seeing this photo of Corey and he's like, wait,
- 42:22Speaker 2: like those leather suit, like jackets on his Harley. And
- 42:25Speaker 2: I was like, he's hot. And my dad, I was like, dad,
- 42:33Speaker 2: he is really cute. And he's like, he's actually going,
- 42:36Speaker 2: or I just, I think he'd actually just gotten divorced
- 42:39Speaker 2: and was dating. And so he's like, he's kind of
- 42:41Speaker 2: like a hot commodity. Like Everybody wants him. He's such
- 42:45Speaker 2: a nice, funny guy. And so he's not single very often.
- 42:48Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my gosh. So yeah, I just
- 42:51Speaker 2: kind of waited my turn for that and had a
- 42:54Speaker 2: little secret crush on him. But yeah, we met in
- 42:57Speaker 2: 2005 and got married in 2008. Bailey was born in 2009.
- 43:01Speaker 2: And I was a stay-at-home mom for a little bit.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Didn't make any sense in that timeframe for me to
- 43:17Speaker 2: work and then pay for the cost of childcare. Before
- 43:20Speaker 2: I had Ash, or I'm sorry, Bailey. Before I had Bailey,
- 43:26Speaker 2: I was actually working at Wells Fargo and I did
- 43:28Speaker 2: reverse mortgages. So I don't know if you knew that
- 43:31Speaker 2: about me or not.
- 43:33Speaker 1: I knew the banking part, but I didn't know exactly
- 43:36Speaker 1: what you did. Yep.
- 43:37Speaker 2: I did reverse mortgages. I also worked for a loan
- 43:42Speaker 2: officer before that as a, I helped her kind of
- 43:47Speaker 2: do some like loan processing stuff. So I learned a
- 43:50Speaker 2: little bit about that. Kind of the backend part of
- 43:54Speaker 2: it and reverse mortgages. I really, really loved. I loved
- 43:59Speaker 2: being able to help senior citizens kind of pivot and Um,
- 44:05Speaker 2: Wells Fargo was great for the opportunity, but ultimately, um,
- 44:10Speaker 2: they're very sales, very commission driven, which I learned real
- 44:14Speaker 2: quickly that I could do. Um, if somebody is like, Hey,
- 44:18Speaker 2: I need you to do this. We have to close
- 44:20Speaker 2: X amount of this or make sure we sell this product.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. And that's because I had that drive
- 44:26Speaker 2: because I wanted to make sure that I could take
- 44:27Speaker 2: care of my kids. So even though I was dating Corey,
- 44:30Speaker 2: I was still a single parent, right? It's my income
- 44:33Speaker 2: with two kiddos. So the product part was not always
- 44:39Speaker 2: the best fit for certain clientele. And so I had
- 44:44Speaker 2: a hard time trying to sell or push something onto
- 44:47Speaker 2: somebody that wasn't maybe the best option for them. So.
- 44:52Speaker 2: I think in a way after I had Bailey and
- 44:56Speaker 2: stepped out of that, it was good for me to
- 44:58Speaker 2: kind of go back to, okay, what is it that
- 44:59Speaker 2: I want to do? What is it that I like
- 45:01Speaker 2: to do? If I'm going to sell something, like how
- 45:04Speaker 2: do I make this a good experience?
- 45:08Speaker 1: Yeah. That converts right into what you're doing today.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:12Speaker 1: It really does. There's really only two more topics and
- 45:16Speaker 1: they kind of go together. It's well, you and Corey,
- 45:21Speaker 1: from the moment I met you, you guys were the
- 45:23Speaker 1: life of the party. I'm not going to lie. Like
- 45:27Speaker 1: we drove from Denver to Boise. We got here pretty late.
- 45:30Speaker 1: We showed up and there was a get together for
- 45:32Speaker 1: someone's birthday or a party, or maybe it was 4th
- 45:34Speaker 1: of July. I don't remember, but it was a fun time.
- 45:37Speaker 1: And I remember that just right off the bat that
- 45:38Speaker 1: one of my first experiences with you guys is having
- 45:41Speaker 1: a fun time with you. And I think you guys
- 45:45Speaker 1: have been able to use that in your social life,
- 45:49Speaker 1: building your network to become your net worth.
- 45:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Surrounding yourself with the people that can feed you or
- 45:56Speaker 1: not really feed you, but you know what I mean? Like, like.
- 45:58Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Everywhere we went for, I remember the first year or so,
- 46:02Speaker 1: once we moved out here, everywhere we went in public,
- 46:06Speaker 1: you knew someone. It was like, how does she know that?
- 46:09Speaker 1: How does she know? What is going on here? You
- 46:11Speaker 1: were like a celebrity. It was like a small town.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Like Boise is a small town to me, but it's
- 46:15Speaker 1: a big, it's the biggest place here in Idaho.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 46:19Speaker 1: It's cool that you have been here long enough. You've
- 46:22Speaker 1: created positive experiences, positive feelings from people to interact with
- 46:28Speaker 1: you that keep, they ripple, like they keep going. It's
- 46:32Speaker 1: like a, almost like if you drop a pebble into water,
- 46:36Speaker 1: you know how there's that little tide ripple that goes
- 46:39Speaker 1: along and it keeps going out. That's what I would
- 46:42Speaker 1: compare it to is, you know, you're going to hit
- 46:44Speaker 1: someone no matter where you are in proximity to Boise
- 46:46Speaker 1: because you know so many people. That's from friendships, success stories,
- 46:52Speaker 1: helping people buy and sell their homes, socializing, going to
- 46:57Speaker 1: fun things like concerts. And there's even, I mean, we
- 47:01Speaker 1: went to Life Surge together last year. There's so many
- 47:05Speaker 1: different events that occur. And I want to talk a
- 47:08Speaker 1: little bit about the people you surround yourself with, why
- 47:12Speaker 1: that's important, and also how your network becomes your net worth.
- 47:17Speaker 2: So I really feel like I leaned into learning who
- 47:24Speaker 2: to surround myself with probably within just like the last
- 47:28Speaker 2: few years. I don't like to say I have regrets
- 47:33Speaker 2: in life because without those experiences, we're not shaped into
- 47:41Speaker 2: who we are today. So I don't like to use
- 47:43Speaker 2: the word regret anything. And I'm grateful for all the
- 47:46Speaker 2: experiences I've had. But I wish sometimes I could have
- 47:50Speaker 2: gone back to the younger me and been like, hey,
- 47:54Speaker 2: who you surround yourself with matters. And I would go
- 47:58Speaker 2: all the way back to high school with that because
- 48:00Speaker 2: I was just making poor decisions on who to spend
- 48:04Speaker 2: time with, which ultimately affects your mindset. And so now
- 48:14Speaker 2: I'm very, very structured and who gets my time. Not
- 48:19Speaker 2: everybody has access to me or my time. And that
- 48:23Speaker 2: is something that, again, I wish I could have maybe
- 48:25Speaker 2: had a long time ago. But you learn these things
- 48:29Speaker 2: as you get older. And I think at first I thought, well,
- 48:34Speaker 2: if I do that, then I'm not going to have
- 48:36Speaker 2: as much growth or opportunity. And therefore my net worth
- 48:40Speaker 2: would be smaller. But actually when you limit your time
- 48:44Speaker 2: and you surround yourself with people that are what you
- 48:49Speaker 2: want to be around, your network grows, which then makes
- 48:54Speaker 2: your net worth grow. Like things just happen. It's truly amazing.
- 49:02Speaker 2: And I think a lot of us get held back
- 49:04Speaker 2: in that fear mindset, right, of, oh, if I don't
- 49:08Speaker 2: do this or I don't do that, then I'm going
- 49:09Speaker 2: to miss out. And so now I'm just very like, nope,
- 49:13Speaker 2: if I can't do this, or yes, I will do
- 49:17Speaker 2: these things. And sometimes those yeses are not strong. comfortable.
- 49:21Speaker 2: They're scary sometimes, but you don't grow or experience those
- 49:26Speaker 2: opportunities if you don't say yes and take a chance
- 49:30Speaker 2: and take a risk, right?
- 49:31Speaker 1: That's true. And that's one thing I've had to learn
- 49:34Speaker 1: as well is I used to say yes to everyone.
- 49:38Speaker 1: And what I realized is if your time is available
- 49:41Speaker 1: for everyone, what's it actually worth?
- 49:44Speaker 2: Right.
- 49:45Speaker 1: If anybody can get it, what is it actually worth? Right.
- 49:48Speaker 1: And covering the last four decades of your life, putting
- 49:53Speaker 1: these experiences together from that shift in your mind that
- 49:57Speaker 1: was almost forced because you were in a situation that
- 49:59Speaker 1: you didn't get to choose. At a certain point, you
- 50:03Speaker 1: have to only choose your reaction to what is occurring. Right.
- 50:06Speaker 1: You can choose the way forward. And you chose, I'm
- 50:09Speaker 1: not going to be a deadbeat.
- 50:13Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm not going to be a deadbeat. I'm not
- 50:15Speaker 2: going to be living on the streets with a baby.
- 50:18Speaker 2: I know my parents worked hard for things for us.
- 50:22Speaker 2: And I really wanted to make sure that like, I
- 50:24Speaker 2: worked really hard for Ashley and then, you know, Aaron and,
- 50:30Speaker 2: and for Bailey and for Brayden, my bonus son, I
- 50:33Speaker 2: love Brayden dearly. And so I am, so grateful that,
- 50:37Speaker 2: you know, you get that mindset where you're like, okay,
- 50:39Speaker 2: I want to make sure that we have what we need. Um,
- 50:42Speaker 2: because I love to travel. If I was just to
- 50:44Speaker 2: be a stay at home mom for a long time, which,
- 50:48Speaker 2: which I was, and I, and I love that I
- 50:51Speaker 2: had that opportunity and I'm forever grateful for that, but
- 50:54Speaker 2: I knew that I needed to be out contributing and
- 50:59Speaker 2: because I want a certain lifestyle, I want to be
- 51:02Speaker 2: able to go and do things. And so, um, You
- 51:06Speaker 2: know who else actually was like, hey, you know what?
- 51:08Speaker 2: Maybe you should consider real estate is Corey's ex-wife. She
- 51:15Speaker 2: would come over and she had just gotten her license
- 51:18Speaker 2: and she actually told me the school that she went to.
- 51:20Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm going to join that school too.
- 51:22Speaker 2: So I did. And I think at first when I
- 51:25Speaker 2: got my license, I was like, oh, this is going
- 51:27Speaker 2: to be great. I can do this part time with
- 51:29Speaker 2: the four kids because I needed to be home with
- 51:32Speaker 2: the four kids. This is going to be so great.
- 51:36Speaker 2: I learned real quickly that you cannot do real estate part-time.
- 51:42Speaker 2: If you do it part-time and you're succeeding, great. I just,
- 51:47Speaker 2: I could not do it. I am a perfectionist. I
- 51:51Speaker 2: am an overthinker. I want the best of the best.
- 51:56Speaker 2: And so I didn't know how to do it part-time.
- 52:00Speaker 2: There were times I actually had to take Bailey with
- 52:03Speaker 2: me to showings. I'm like, sorry, here's my kid. Yeah.
- 52:08Speaker 1: I think that's a misconception some people have is that
- 52:11Speaker 1: real estate is easy. You can do it part-time. And
- 52:15Speaker 1: if you do have that mentality and you approach it
- 52:17Speaker 1: that way, you're going to get part-time results. And when
- 52:21Speaker 1: you're competing against a very, very competitive industry where the
- 52:25Speaker 1: full-time people are working overtime and you're doing part-time, how
- 52:29Speaker 1: are you going to deliver the experience that someone that
- 52:31Speaker 1: this is what they do full-time and you're Doing what
- 52:35Speaker 1: with the other half of your time?
- 52:36Speaker 2: Right.
- 52:37Speaker 1: Raising kids. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's such
- 52:39Speaker 1: an admirable thing to do. But that's how people think.
- 52:42Speaker 1: They look at the facts and they're like, okay, this
- 52:45Speaker 1: person over here versus this. And I think you were
- 52:47Speaker 1: right in realizing that you can't do it part time.
- 52:51Speaker 2: No, no. No, I, yeah, I was like, this is
- 52:54Speaker 2: just going to be very difficult. Once Bailey got into
- 52:58Speaker 2: preschool and grade school, it got easier. I could try
- 53:01Speaker 2: to work a little bit. And then Corey at that
- 53:04Speaker 2: point also traveled a lot. I mean, he was working
- 53:09Speaker 2: like every other week. And when I say every other week,
- 53:11Speaker 2: I mean like he's out of town. So it wasn't
- 53:13Speaker 2: like he was in town coming home. I mean, there
- 53:15Speaker 2: were a week or sometimes two during fire season, right.
- 53:20Speaker 2: Where I am having to manage the kids and work. Um,
- 53:28Speaker 2: but those were, I think those times are what shape
- 53:31Speaker 2: you and realizing, okay, how, how do I pivot this?
- 53:34Speaker 2: How do I structure this? Um, I had actually, when
- 53:37Speaker 2: I first got my license, I joined a very, very,
- 53:40Speaker 2: very small real estate, uh, brokerage, uh, I guess when
- 53:45Speaker 2: I say really, really small, I don't mean like they're
- 53:46Speaker 2: so tiny, just compared to like the larger ones, like
- 53:49Speaker 2: the Keller Williams, right? So I was at Equity when
- 53:53Speaker 2: I first got licensed and then moved over after my
- 53:57Speaker 2: first transaction from there to Keller Williams and was there
- 54:01Speaker 2: for a little bit. And Keller Williams taught me a lot. Um,
- 54:05Speaker 2: they had coaching, they had, um, classes programs. I did
- 54:10Speaker 2: the ignite program, which was amazing. I did a bold class,
- 54:14Speaker 2: which bold will forever change your life. And it just
- 54:18Speaker 2: puts you in a different, like talking about mindset on how,
- 54:21Speaker 2: how to just continually level up, not only your business,
- 54:27Speaker 2: but you and how that affects your family. So, um,
- 54:33Speaker 2: KW was very big on that. And so, you know,
- 54:36Speaker 2: I owe a lot of things, you know, to KW,
- 54:39Speaker 2: including teams. I learned a lot from teams that I
- 54:43Speaker 2: not necessarily, I never joined a team when I was
- 54:45Speaker 2: at KW, but just the mentorship that I received on
- 54:49Speaker 2: how to handle situations. So I'm, I'm really grateful for
- 54:54Speaker 2: KW and those teams and those people that I met
- 54:58Speaker 2: for those experiences.
- 55:01Speaker 1: Yeah. Keller Williams, in my opinion, is one of the
- 55:03Speaker 1: front runners when it comes to creating more than just
- 55:07Speaker 1: the transaction. It's about who you are. It's about what your,
- 55:11Speaker 1: what your mindset is, your goals that you set and
- 55:13Speaker 1: keep progressing to growth. And one of the first books
- 55:18Speaker 1: I read in real estate was Gary, Gary Keller's millionaire.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Was it million dollar real estate agent?
- 55:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:25Speaker 1: I read that 16 years ago. So yeah. I know
- 55:29Speaker 1: that that book got me fired up. That's when I
- 55:32Speaker 1: was still a teenager. I had a feeling I was
- 55:34Speaker 1: going to go into real estate at some point. I
- 55:36Speaker 1: helped a little bit hands-on, but I didn't get licensed
- 55:39Speaker 1: till after college, even though I was doing property management
- 55:41Speaker 1: all through school. Yeah. And your definition of success sometimes changes,
- 55:47Speaker 1: especially as you get older. Yeah. You know, at first
- 55:51Speaker 1: for you, I can imagine survival was number one, you know,
- 55:53Speaker 1: as a teenager, you got to survive. How do I
- 55:55Speaker 1: even do this?
- 55:56Speaker 2: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- 55:57Speaker 1: Now that you're more established and you've done, I don't
- 56:00Speaker 1: know how many transactions, hundreds, like now that you're in
- 56:03Speaker 1: that position, what is your, what's your definition of success today?
- 56:09Speaker 2: So success today isn't necessarily like volume or transactions or units,
- 56:17Speaker 2: you know, it's like, okay, how much do you, you know,
- 56:18Speaker 2: I think everybody's like, Hey, how much do you want
- 56:20Speaker 2: to sell this year? How much do you want to
- 56:22Speaker 2: do this year? And those are all great tools. And
- 56:24Speaker 2: you can also ask people that I know, And if
- 56:27Speaker 2: you ever asked me this, I'll tell you the same thing.
- 56:31Speaker 2: Did you track your transactions for the year? No, I
- 56:34Speaker 2: have no idea. Um, success to me is being able
- 56:39Speaker 2: to help serve, right? So if I was given the
- 56:44Speaker 2: opportunity to help somebody find a home, sell a home,
- 56:51Speaker 2: there's success right there for me. Um, Do you get
- 56:55Speaker 2: to make money while doing that? Absolutely. Is it great? Absolutely.
- 57:00Speaker 2: Is it easy? Not all the time. Absolutely not. But
- 57:04Speaker 2: getting somebody to that appointment, right? From a buyer consult
- 57:10Speaker 2: to a listing consult, to listing it, to selling it,
- 57:18Speaker 2: to handing over keys to a buyer and someone maybe
- 57:22Speaker 2: that's never dreamed of being able to have that vision
- 57:27Speaker 2: of home ownership. I mean, that's a very rewarding, that's
- 57:32Speaker 2: a very rewarding job. And that is like, to me,
- 57:35Speaker 2: that is success, right? Like being able to help and
- 57:38Speaker 2: serve those, it doesn't get any better than that. Yeah. Yeah.
- 57:43Speaker 1: And most of the time, at least in sales, people
- 57:46Speaker 1: think of success as a number. And what does that,
- 57:50Speaker 1: what does that even mean?
- 57:52Speaker 2: I know. And that's the part that I've always struggled with.
- 57:54Speaker 2: Cause I'm like, I don't, I mean, I guess I
- 57:57Speaker 2: could say I would love all these things. Absolutely. Right.
- 58:00Speaker 2: Like I would love to sell $ 20 bazillion in real estate,
- 58:04Speaker 2: but also if you think about that, what is that going,
- 58:08Speaker 2: what challenge will that bring? Right. Because that's a whole
- 58:12Speaker 2: nother like, okay, well, I'm going to need, I'm going
- 58:14Speaker 2: to need a team at that point. You're going to
- 58:15Speaker 2: have to have people help, um, which is a beautiful thing.
- 58:19Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I'm saying who knows where AP
- 58:21Speaker 2: Realty goes in the future. But right now, you know,
- 58:24Speaker 2: it's me. I've got a transaction coordinator. I've got help
- 58:30Speaker 2: with social media, photographers. So, you know, there's things that
- 58:37Speaker 2: you bring in to that business to help you level
- 58:40Speaker 2: up that business, which I also think is very successful,
- 58:43Speaker 2: very smart thing to do. I'm not spending so much
- 58:47Speaker 2: time on things that I don't like to do. And
- 58:51Speaker 2: I can be out interacting with people, which is something
- 58:53Speaker 2: that I love to do. Building relationships. Yeah.
- 58:58Speaker 1: And if you had one word of advice today that
- 59:03Speaker 1: you would give yourself at 16, 17, or just, you know,
- 59:07Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's not even advice. Maybe it's just encouragement
- 59:10Speaker 1: or what would you say to yourself?
- 59:14Speaker 2: I would say you got this. And I know that
- 59:17Speaker 2: sounds so just like cliche, but I didn't have a
- 59:21Speaker 2: lot of belief. I didn't have a lot of confidence
- 59:24Speaker 2: in myself and I, I wish I would have told
- 59:30Speaker 2: myself you can do this. Like you are destined for
- 59:34Speaker 2: great things. I mean, I think I knew that internally, like, okay,
- 59:37Speaker 2: you're going to do great things in this world. I
- 59:40Speaker 2: just felt that that was part of having a drive,
- 59:43Speaker 2: but I wish I would have had more confidence and
- 59:44Speaker 2: believed in that. Like you got this, you're going to
- 59:46Speaker 2: do this. And not being afraid to lean into that.
- 59:52Speaker 1: Yeah. Having that strong belief in that, just confidence. It's,
- 59:58Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine having that at that age and
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: that predicament and that situation, that scenario, but the fact
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: that you're looking back and you are where you are
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: today and you still have kind of the same advice
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: that probably you didn't realize that that's like, you, you
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: had the mindset, you did this, you know, you're here.
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: It's interesting to see.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: It is. It is. I, I mean, I also think
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: a lot of it too, right? Like, my faith plays
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: such a big part in success. And so I w
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: you know, like things happen for a reason. Everybody says that,
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: but it's really God's timing. And if, um, you know,
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: God brings people to me, which I believe he does wholeheartedly, um,
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: and they're meant to cross my path and I get
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: to serve them, then that's a blessing. Um, I, leaning
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: into the faith and having that, knowing that everything's going
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: to be okay because now when things get hard, because
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: things do get hard in real estate, knowing that it's temporary,
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: it's not forever, this too shall pass, and learning how
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: to pivot. What can you do? What can you maybe
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: try something different that is not something that you would
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: have thought of doing before? Remember like when Facebook Live
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: came out? Yeah. I remember being so scared to jump
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: onto Facebook live and I was literally forced to go
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: onto Facebook live and talk. And that was like so
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: scary to me.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: It's trying new things, even when you're uncomfortable.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, awesome.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: Well, Amanda, thank you for finally coming on callous mindset podcast.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I think the biggest takeaway from
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: your story is how much the people around us matter.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: Hard work matters, relationships and opportunity. But being willing to
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: act when those opportunities come up and make decisions that
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: are like, believe it or not, you are a risk taker.
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: Like moving across the country, starting your own company, trying
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: all these new things. It shows that, you know, you've
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: gone through difficult chapters. You've rebuilt your life. You've taken
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: those risks, created something really magnificent from where you started.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Just take the risk, go out.
- 1:02:19Speaker 2: And also a huge thing is supporting other people too, right?
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: So I know some people think probably, well, this is
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: so bizarre. Like your son-in-law is doing real estate or
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: property management. And I don't look at it that way.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: I mean, I want you to succeed. I want you
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: to have so much success. I mean, you're married to
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: my daughter. I want there to be abundance. So I
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: don't have that mindset either of not wanting other people
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: to succeed, even in my own industry. I want to
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: see everybody succeed and win.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Yeah, that's truly the mindset of abundance. That's exactly what
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on here. And thank you
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: so much for sharing your story. And I didn't think
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: I would ever say this, but thank you for getting
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: pregnant as a teenager. Because my life has changed. Your
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: life has changed. Here we are.
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: Yes, here we are. I know I'm like as scary
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: and as challenging that was. Thank you, God, for that gift.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: What a blessing. And I am so grateful for you, Cannon.
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: So thank you so much for having me on today.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, man. And to everyone listening or watching, thanks
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: for joining us. I hope sharing this story, something personal
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: with a personal relationship and our lives, it may resonate
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: with you and make you realize that it's all about
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: how you react and the decisions you make even when
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like you're out of options. And so
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: if you found value from this episode, share it, share
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: it with your friends and family, and we'll see you
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: on the next one.