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- 0:02Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Friday, February
- 0:07sixteenth. I'm your host Tom Moore. The Akron game in one hundred and
- 0:10ninety seven days, the game against Michigan in two hundred and eighty eight days.
- 0:14It feels like it has been about two hundred and eighty eight days that
- 0:16we have been waiting for Ryan Day to put the finishing touches on his coaching
- 0:20staff for the year twenty twenty four. That finally happened on Thursday afternoon when
- 0:25I Higher State announced that James Laurenidis had just signed a two year contract to
- 0:29be the Buckeyes linebackers coach. He spent a last year as the linebacker's graduate
- 0:34assistant. There was some question whether he was going to be the guy this
- 0:37year or not. Now the answer is in. He is the guy to
- 0:40be the linebacker's coach, to be the tenth assistant for Ohio State going into
- 0:44the twenty twenty four season. I'm joined by Kevin noon if bucke Huddle dot
- 0:48Com. Kevin. This is one of these things where when James lauren Nitis
- 0:51came on as a GA last year, everyone sort of assumed, Okay,
- 0:55he's going to do it b aga for one year and then he's going to
- 0:58just take the linebacker's job over in twenty twenty four. Easy, no problem,
- 1:03no drama, no nothing. It just feels like that's what happened.
- 1:07But there were a lot of twists and turns between point A and point B.
- 1:11Yeah, there were a lot of different directions at Ohio State could have
- 1:15gone with this position, and that was even kind of something that Ryan Day
- 1:19had mentioned when we spoke to him on National Signing Day. But you look,
- 1:23James Laurinidis starts his coaching career at Notre Dame as a GA. You
- 1:30know, there was, you know, some communication between Ohio State and Laurnidis
- 1:34at that point. He ends up opting to go to Notre Dame, and
- 1:37then a year later he ends up at Ohio State. And had always been
- 1:41in the plan for this to move forward, whether or not it was going
- 1:44to be after one year or two years or what have you. But as
- 1:48we sit here, truly in the middle of the month of February, I
- 1:52mean, I think Ohio State was kind of saw what the landscape is going
- 1:55to be and what was going to be best for the development of this program
- 1:57overall, and that was with James Laurenidis. There were a bunch of potential
- 2:04questions about, you know, hey, might they get a defensive line coach
- 2:08in waiting. That was a possibility that was sort of discussed that I know,
- 2:13you know, you had some names that you had heard around that whole
- 2:15conversation, and then Ryan Day said, well, you know, could do
- 2:19a special teams coach bringing a special teams coach in this year. They ended
- 2:23up landing on James Laurennidis. This feels like this is a perfectly, perfectly
- 2:30good move for them. He has been someone who has had a significant impact
- 2:34on the recruiting trail already with not being able to go out at all last
- 2:38year and being able to go out just a little bit while they were sort
- 2:42of waiting to fill that tenth spot. They had Laurenidis acting as that tenth
- 2:46assistant and being able to go out on the road, because that's one of
- 2:50the primary differences between being one of the ten main assistants and the gas and
- 2:54the QCs and the assistant position coaches and whatever else. So it feels like
- 3:00this is one where the recruiting trail might be one of those areas where you
- 3:04see the biggest impact from Laurnidis. Yeah, because the reality of it is
- 3:09is that Jim Knowles is not going to be one of the strongest recruiters on
- 3:14your team. Plain and simple, Ohio State obviously very much still in favor
- 3:19of what Jim Knowles is doing. He picked up I believe he's been extended
- 3:23through twenty twenty six as part of the email, said that there were some
- 3:25other extensions and reworkings of deals and titles and so on and so forth.
- 3:30But you need to have somebody that can then step into that positional void and
- 3:38be able to recruit your linebackers, your guys like tarbos Alford out of out
- 3:42of Aero Beach and so on and so forth. So there is a lot
- 3:46of importance there. I think when you have a combo of James Laurnidis and
- 3:51Tim Walton, we have a long way to go before we can put James
- 3:53Laurnidis in that same lofty sphere when talking about recruiting. But I think the
- 3:59hope is that you got yourself another Tim Walton, which you know, if
- 4:02we just rewind a little bit more, Oh, you have yourself another Brian
- 4:06Hartline. Because you know, there are going to be some spots on the
- 4:10staff that are probably not going to be as strong of recruiters, and you
- 4:13have to find that balance between Okay, this is the best possible person for
- 4:17this position because of their coaching ability their recruiting ability. You'd like to have
- 4:23both, but sometimes you can't have both just because somebody is just so far
- 4:27ahead on one category and maybe not so far on the other. Well,
- 4:32speaking of people being ahead on something, let's you know, Tony Gerdaman isn't
- 4:35here so I can say something nice about him. Tony had some great reporting
- 4:40on this. There were some twists and turns in this whole thing. Tony
- 4:44was keeping her subscribers up to speed with all of it on the huddle board
- 4:46presented by Jeff Ruby Steakhouse at Buckey huddle dot com. He was the first
- 4:49one with this news. Good job reporting by Tony, as he said,
- 4:55he had to brush to his computer, cut his wife off mid sentence when
- 4:58the news. When he got the news, but he had to get the
- 5:00news. He had the news first, So good job by Tony. One
- 5:02of those reasons you might want to be at Buckey huddle dot com because there
- 5:05were some twists and turns in this whole thing. Very interesting story to follow,
- 5:10and Tony Tony had some great reporting on this. So all right,
- 5:13you mentioned Tim Walton. Let's talk about Tim Walton because there is other news.
- 5:15In addition to the hiring of James Lournidis, Tim Walton has been promoted
- 5:19to assistant head coach slash secondary and cornerbacks coach and received a two year contract
- 5:25ext engine through the twenty twenty six season. Kevin, this is one where
- 5:30number one it doesn't say and a big bag with a dollar sign on it,
- 5:32But I think that is probably strongly implied by the title bump and all
- 5:35of that. If they can keep Tim Walton around for the foreseeable future,
- 5:42boy, that's going to be a very big deal in terms of continuing to
- 5:46stock those rooms, especially in the secondary and on the defensive side of the
- 5:50ball. Exactly when we start seeing assistant head coach, associate head coach,
- 5:57head coach, adjason, all these other titles, we know in a lot
- 6:00of times it's in order to fulfill certain you know, qualifications for certain pay
- 6:06grades and things of that nature. So there is a sack with a dollar
- 6:11sign, maybe even three dollars signs that that Tim Walton should be receiving with
- 6:15all of this, and just based on where Ohio State was, I think,
- 6:19you know, just with the with with with the play last year,
- 6:23with what he's doing on the recruiting trail right now, with what he did
- 6:26on the recruiting trail last year, certainly this is the best time to get
- 6:30involved with getting that extension in place, because if he finishes with this class
- 6:36and you you let it drag out, not only do you run the risk
- 6:39of potentially losing him because you don't have somebody locked up in a longer term
- 6:44deal in assistant coaching space, which is more than a year, but you
- 6:49also are probably getting in a little bit more of a discount right now.
- 6:53But you know, if they put puts together another class and things go crazy,
- 6:56we could we could see the contract ripped up and they could start over
- 6:59again. You just never know. That's the limitless dollars of coaching monies and
- 7:05things of that nature. And everybody talks about, well, what's the pool
- 7:09that they're going to have for assistant coaches. Well, if things are going
- 7:13well, that pool better constantly be growing or you're going to be losing.
- 7:16Yeah, when you have a successful program and you have guys who are good
- 7:20recruiters, and you have guys who are very relational on the recruiting trail,
- 7:25those are the guys that will sometimes get snapped up, whether with a title
- 7:29bump or just get a head coaching job somewhere. So if you can keep
- 7:31Tim Walton and Brian Hartline and James Loriniitis and all those other guys happy and
- 7:36content and at home in Columbus, that is going to be a good thing
- 7:40for you. So we said Jim Walton is the assistant head coach. Well,
- 7:45Kevin, there is also an associate head coach. This is not a
- 7:46new title. Larry Johnson has been the associate head coach for a number of
- 7:49years. Defensive line coach the subject of constant retirement rumors, but he has
- 7:56a new two year contract through the twenty twenty five season. I think that's
- 8:01that may be a little surprising to people if there were, you know,
- 8:03questions about what, you know, was there a defensive line coach in waiting
- 8:07coming a two year contract through the twenty twenty five season. That's you know,
- 8:13that seems like that's another statement that we've been listening to Larry Johnson retirement
- 8:18rumors for ten years and nope, not yet. Nope, not yet,
- 8:24is right? You have them in place longer than a year. So you
- 8:28know, that's a message you can put out there for recruits. But I
- 8:31don't think it's going to change the fact that somebody is going to sit there
- 8:35and say that doesn't mean anything. I mean, he two years, you'd
- 8:39be there for a year of him and he could leave at that point.
- 8:43Well, anybody could theoretically leave these you know, these are contracts or business
- 8:46contracts. There's not there's no certainty when it really comes to any of this
- 8:50type of stuff. But it does show Ohio State wants to have a level
- 8:56of continuity, if you will, in terms of what they have with their
- 9:01with their staff. And you know, it takes some of the takes a
- 9:05little bit of the air out of the balloon potentially of having you know,
- 9:07that coach in waiting for that position. But at some point, at some
- 9:13point, I hope to still be doing this at that point, but at
- 9:15some point his career will we'll take at least a little bit of a break,
- 9:18I would imagine. I mean, he's going to prably outlive us all.
- 9:20But you know, I mean he is his coaching, he's I think
- 9:24he's happy to take it into his eighties. I think I remember at least
- 9:30one of the Bowses, and it might have been Joey being asked you know
- 9:33well, I mean, certainly you don't expect Larry Johnson to be there for
- 9:35your whole career. Joey Bosamhat retire from the NFL before Larry Johnson retires from
- 9:41Ohio State. We'll see, We'll see who can win that win that battle
- 9:46out last the other. The other guy on the defensive side of the ball
- 9:50getting a new contract today is defensive coordinator Jim Knowles two year contract extension through
- 9:54the twenty twenty six sies. And Knowles is an interesting one because you have
- 9:58seen the results that I think people were sort of expecting from Knowles, where
- 10:01it was first year was okay, second year was okay, really good,
- 10:07and then third year, what is the third year going to look like?
- 10:09Well, feels like it might be better than really good. He's someone who
- 10:15he's older. He's not the young up and comer thirty something that is necessarily
- 10:20going to get poached to go be a sun Belt head coach or a mac
- 10:22head coach or whatever. But still, if they can keep Jim Knowles around
- 10:26to run the defense as he has been, that's probably a pretty big win
- 10:31for Ohio State as well. Yeah, I think so. I mean,
- 10:33he certainly was looked at for the Duke opening. And that's another way that
- 10:39you kind of keep things matriculating forward. Is I mean, if with Merritt,
- 10:45you promote with merit, and I mean a lot of times that just
- 10:48comes down to dollar figures and things like that. So Jim Knowles getting the
- 10:52additional years on his deal probably won't, you know, keep people from trying
- 10:58to attach him to as they come open. But you know, I think
- 11:01that the fact that you know, he's he's still here at this point,
- 11:05I think that it's not you know, it's not going to be something temporary.
- 11:07And you're right about year three. Year three at Oklahoma State is where
- 11:11it all really turned on for him. And I think that everybody was so
- 11:16hungry to see improvement and year one, yeah they were better, Year two
- 11:22they were significantly better. And now you look at just what is returning and
- 11:26everything else, and you know, I think that the trend will continue in
- 11:30that and that year three could be pretty pretty darn special. One more addition
- 11:35to the current coaching staff and a contract extension for tight ends coach Keenan Bailey
- 11:41one more year that gets him through the twenty twenty five season. One other
- 11:45personnel note Tony Johnson, who is related you know normally you would say,
- 11:50oh, no relation to Larry Johnson. Nope, related to Larry Johnson.
- 11:54Tony Johnson, the son of Larry Johnson, has joined the staff as a
- 11:56senior analyst. So another one more addition into the Ohio State coaching staff there,
- 12:01going into the next going into the next season. You know, this
- 12:07is Kevin. I think, what's the takeaway here? I mean, they've
- 12:11they've really kind of shuffled quite a number of pieces here. When you look
- 12:16at bringing in Chip Kelly, retaining a lot of the guys who they've retained
- 12:20who were potentially going to get get you know, at least looks for other
- 12:24jobs. This feels like close to I don't know if it's the single best
- 12:28case scenario, but it feels like we're at least, you know, kind
- 12:31of close to a best case scenario for an off season for Ryan Day on
- 12:37the coaching front, let alone all the other stuff. Well, it shows
- 12:41that addressing needs and you know, there certainly was a need to move on
- 12:46move However, with special teams, I think there certainly was a need to
- 12:50get you know, at least another defensive recruiting hammer out there. I think
- 12:54that there were you know, obviously an offensive coordinator, play caller, all
- 12:58of that is extremely important. But you know, what Ohio State has done,
- 13:03I think it just kind of mirrors what we've seen with the portal and
- 13:07some other things like that. That Ohio State it's like, all right,
- 13:11here we go. I mean, you know, you've you've seen what we've
- 13:15been able to roll out the last couple of years, and it just hasn't
- 13:18quite gotten there. So we're going to really redouble our efforts, if you
- 13:22will. And we haven't seen any on field product at this point, but
- 13:28expectations are are extremely high. Yeah, expectations are very very high for this
- 13:33season. Between the coaching staff and the players that they've retained and the players
- 13:39that they added, and the recruiting class, I mean, this is this
- 13:43is about as loaded for bear as you have seen an Ohio State team over
- 13:50the years. I mean, I go back to I mean, what are
- 13:54the seasons with the single, you know, the most hype going into a
- 13:56season. I go back to nineteen ninety eight, twenty fifteen. You know,
- 14:03it's sort of weird that a lot of the years where they have all
- 14:05of the hype are not necessarily the years where they win it. They want
- 14:09it the year before the year in twenty fourteen, you know, instead of
- 14:13in twenty fifteen. Two thousand and three was another year where it was like,
- 14:16boy, they have everyone back, but they just wanted the year before.
- 14:18So a little bit of a different dynamic this year, but yeah,
- 14:22definitely a year with a lot of hype. Spring Ball starts in less than
- 14:26three weeks. We're pretty excited about that Spring game in less than two months,
- 14:30we're pretty excited about that. There's be a lot of stuff to talk
- 14:31about. We're hoping to get to coach interviews, some returning player interviews,
- 14:37maybe some true freshman interviews all coming up as well. Do you want to
- 14:41get to a couple questions here that we had or comments. I guess pb
- 14:46SA's day is doing everything he needs to do. I mean, I go
- 14:48back Kevin to the postgame show for the Cotton Bowl and the stuff we sort
- 14:54of laid out that, like, you probably need to find a veteran play
- 14:58caller, you probably need to do this, you probably need to do that.
- 15:01It feels like they've really kind of gone down that checklist and checked pretty
- 15:03much all those boxes. Yeah, I'm glad that they watch our shows and
- 15:07they took into account all the things that we said there that needed to be
- 15:11done, and it appears that in a large scale. I haven't gone back
- 15:15and watched that show because there was so much positive energy coming out of that
- 15:20show, but it sounds like that they've taken our suggestions to heart and that
- 15:26we've seen a lot of those things happen. So I agree with Peeb as
- 15:28well. All right, we have a super chat from mellow number seven.
- 15:31What about Tony Alfred? Now, I mean, if you look, there
- 15:35are plenty of guys on this list who did not get their contracts extended or
- 15:39changed or anything like that. It was just Tim Walton, Jim Knowles,
- 15:43Larry Johnson, and Keenan Bailey. So that's only four of the ten,
- 15:46plus James Laurnidis is five. So you know, I don't know how much
- 15:50I would read into Tony Alford not getting extension. Brian Hartline didn't get an
- 15:54extension either that was announced, So you know, I don't remember, Kevin.
- 15:58Do you know at the top your head the contract status of Tony Alford
- 16:02right look right now, But you know it's always it's always, yeah,
- 16:07icy trying to find it. Alfred Alfred had uh he had a contract that
- 16:17ended in twenty four. But I don't know. I don't know if this
- 16:21is based on a story that I'm reading from twenty two. I don't remember
- 16:23him getting bumped in twenty three, but I just don't know. Yeah,
- 16:27And you know, it's not This is not like head coaches where it's shocking.
- 16:32You know when Jim Harbaugh was in the final year of his contract a
- 16:34few years ago and it was like that was basically unheard of. This is
- 16:38some coaches coach in the last year of their contracts all the time. That
- 16:41does not necessarily mean Tony Alfred has one foot out the door. Well,
- 16:45you know, we'll see. That's a This is a results business, as
- 16:48they say, I'm expecting Tony Alford to have some pretty good results this year
- 16:52with Trevon Henderson and quin Shawn Judkins. They've brought in James People's they are
- 16:56set up to have a pretty good year on the recruiting trail. But you
- 17:00know, it's always it's always a good year to have a good year on
- 17:02the recruiting trail. So we'll see if they can bring in. There's a
- 17:04couple very talented in state players for Ohio State. We've got Jordan Davison out
- 17:10in California. You get Byron Lewis down in Florida. So they're in on
- 17:12a bunch of very, very highly touted running backs for this class. If
- 17:17you keep getting you know, you bring in the results on the recruiting trail,
- 17:19you get the results on the field. I don't think Tony Alfred has
- 17:22anything necessary to worry about, but yeah, well we'll keep an eye on
- 17:26it if there is a contract extension there. Rose Courts iced Tea says,
- 17:32my guy's quick question. During the Urban era, our front seven felt like
- 17:36the soul of our defense, even though BIA was no slouge. Now it
- 17:37feels different. How can our linebacking court and defensive line catch up to BIA.
- 17:44Well, you know, I think we're going to see a defensive line
- 17:47that returns a lot. Obviously, bringing JT and Jack back means a lot.
- 17:51They could have really been destroyed a defensive tackle, they lose my call,
- 17:56But everybody else is really coming back at the position. You know,
- 18:00I think with linebacker it's still kind of a matter of figuring out what to
- 18:07do. I mean, because you are a four two five, you're only
- 18:10rolling two guys out and out there, and two of them, the two
- 18:12main guys are gone with Tommy and Steele, who both be in Indianapolis at
- 18:15the end of the month for the scouting combine. You know, you talk
- 18:21about it feeling like the soul of our defense is it is it is that
- 18:25because of just the unit altogether, or is it because Ohio States had general
- 18:29generational players like Bosa Bosa Young. It's been it's been a minute since they've
- 18:33had Chase Young here at at Ohio State. I mean, I think that
- 18:37a lot of years, I still hear the same complaints that they're not they're
- 18:41not getting enough sacks, they're not forcing enough turnovers or or or or whatever.
- 18:45So you know, I guess, you know, my my quick answer
- 18:48would be, well, recruit another Bosa Young. They might might might get
- 18:52you there. But but in lieu of that, which is probably more realistic,
- 18:56I mean, you just have to just keep plugging away. And then
- 19:00as as for linebacker, we'll see what's in the cards for Cody Simon and
- 19:04whoever he lines up there with, whether it be CJ. Hicks or somebody
- 19:08else. And c J. Hicks is the subject of one of our questions.
- 19:12I'll see if I can find it in here real quick. See.
- 19:15Oh, sorry, it was Sunny Styles who was the subject of one of
- 19:18our questions. You know, because c J. Hicks and Sunny Styles both
- 19:21five star guys, both entering their third year in the program, both you
- 19:25know, have have felt maybe a little miscast and maybe like a step closer
- 19:30to the line of scrimmage might not be bad for either one of them.
- 19:33We'll see how CJ. Hicks does. Sunny Styles. They have been talking
- 19:37about potentially moving him from safety to linebacker. There was a picture of the
- 19:41defensive backs watching the Super Bowl or something like that, and c and Sunny
- 19:47Styles was there with the with the defensive backs and not with the linebackers.
- 19:52So everyone is sort of interpreting that as well. He's going to start the
- 19:55spring with the defensive backs and not the linebackers. We'll see how that all
- 19:59plays out. But you know, it does. It does feel Kevin like
- 20:03that might be an opportunity for him because the safety room you got Lathan Ransom,
- 20:07you got Jordan Hancock, you got Caleb Downs. It feels like the
- 20:12three safety spots are in relatively decent hands and moving sunny styles a little closer
- 20:18to the line of scrimmage might make a heck of a lot of sense.
- 20:22But the thing we have to remember with positional moves is you've got to have
- 20:26buy in from everybody. I mean, the coaches may want to move a
- 20:29player and the player may not want to move. The player may want to
- 20:30move and the coaches may not want to move him. There's a lot of
- 20:33a lot of pieces to it. And you know, I guess until I
- 20:37know more about the situation, I think that I mean, moving down to
- 20:42linebacker makes a ton of sense. I think if you talk to Mark Givler,
- 20:45hething's Moving them down even further to like rush in makes more sense.
- 20:48So you know, there's he's. When you're a unique player, it means
- 20:52that maybe there's not a playbook per se that you can draw to and say,
- 20:57wow, well this is this is exactly how you should be used.
- 21:02And you know this is our proof of performance and everything else. So if
- 21:07James Laurnidis and Jim Knowles, you know, if the belief is is that
- 21:11they want to move them down, I mean, you gotta you gotta get
- 21:14everybody else on board with it. And I you know, I think it's
- 21:17I think it's the right decision. But I'm also not there at every practice
- 21:21to see every you know, everything, and I don't. I don't know
- 21:23why it hasn't happened yet. And you know, it's crazy that we're talking
- 21:27about CJ. Hicks, who is still a real young guy, is going
- 21:32into what his third season. I mean, this is this could be his
- 21:36contract here, so you know, we'll see. But I think that,
- 21:38uh, I think what makes him unique and special shows more closer to the
- 21:45closer to the ball than further from the ball. Yeah, I think that's
- 21:48I think that's definitely true. And you've got you've got guys who are I
- 21:52mean, they've talked about Sonny being a Swiss army knife in the past and
- 21:55a secret weapon in the past, and you know, just turn those guys
- 21:59loose. Find way to turn those guys loose. If you move CJ.
- 22:02Hicks down to some kind of a jack some kind of defensive end position.
- 22:07You know, you have to have buy in from coaching staff there as well,
- 22:10and Larry Johnson is going to have views on what makes a good defensive
- 22:12end and how much they want to run the jack out there, and Jim
- 22:17Knowles may have different views on some of that stuff. So yeah, as
- 22:19you said, there are a lot of moving parts there that you got to
- 22:22all sort of factor together. It's not quite as easy as as it might
- 22:26be on your E Sports College Football twenty twenty five a little later on this
- 22:30year, you can do whatever you want with the roster. It's a little
- 22:33more complicated in real life. It is, in fact in the game.
- 22:38We'll probably do a morning show on that in the coming days. Tony Gerderman
- 22:41has also done some good work finding out what exactly Ohio State has submitted for
- 22:47that game. We're going to do a morning show on that probably over the
- 22:49weekend, I would guess, so you can look forward to that. One.
- 22:52PB says, maybe we're finally going to get some stud linebackers again.
- 22:56I mean, the recruiting has been pretty good. They had a pretty good
- 22:59class this year, and you know, the James Laurnitis impact on this class
- 23:03is already you're being felt. I think Peyton Pierce, for example, was
- 23:07trending towards Notre Dame, and then when James Laurinaitis went from Notre Dame to
- 23:11Ohio State, suddenly Peyton Pier signed with Ohio State. And so, you
- 23:14know, Kevin, I think you're already starting to see the James Laernitis impact
- 23:18on the recruiting trail, even before he was officially one of the ten assistants.
- 23:22Right. I mentioned tarbos Alford from Vero Beach, Florida before and in
- 23:26out of the class of twenty twenty five, I think that this move solidified
- 23:30James Lauriniitis may be what puts Ohio State over the top here like soon with
- 23:37him. He really loves Ohio State, really loves James Lauronidis. Yeah,
- 23:42Ohio State hasn't necessarily had that huge impact charismatic type of linebacker. You know.
- 23:51Tommy Eikenberg just went out there and just like played with no thumbs and
- 23:53just beat the hell out of everybody. And Steel Chambers maybe took a little
- 23:57bit of a step back in twenty three from twenty two too, But you
- 24:00know, I think he'll test pretty well at the combine and and and moving
- 24:03forward. But you know where where has been a James Lorinidis or somebody like
- 24:10that, if you will. I mean, they just don't necessarily happen all
- 24:15the time either. And I you know, I think that this is a
- 24:18chance, though for for them to maybe make a little bit more of a
- 24:21splash as we look at some of the linebackers at Ohio State missed out and
- 24:23in the twenty four cycle and the twenty three cycle. And you know,
- 24:27I've been I've been pretty open and honest when I said, Jim Knowles is
- 24:32not going to lead your team in recruiting. That's just not what his thing
- 24:34is. He is there to run your defense and so on and so forth.
- 24:38And and now that they have somebody who can focus specifically on recruiting linebackers,
- 24:44I agree again with Peebe that I think that it opens some doors for
- 24:48Ohio State, or keeps some doors open longer at least to get to official
- 24:52visits and and things of that nature. Yeah, So we'll we'll see how
- 24:56that how that all goes on the recruiting frail this year. One question for
- 25:00Mika Hannah, what about Gabe Powers. That's the name we have not talked
- 25:03about. We've seen him on special teams. This is sort of I think
- 25:08I look at him and C. J. Hicks sort of in the same
- 25:12way, which is, you're only playing two linebackers. You had two returning
- 25:17starters last year, so they weren't really going to play as true freshmen.
- 25:19So and last year you had two returning starters and you had another veteran in
- 25:23Cody Simon. I don't know that I'm necessarily writing off Gabe Powers or anything
- 25:29yet. I think Gay Powers is someone who this is you know, he's
- 25:32one of those guys who I think this is a big spring for him where
- 25:34you have the opportunity to earn a bigger role. But now you have the
- 25:38opportunity to earn a bigger role. You got to go out there and earn
- 25:41a bigger role. What what is Gay Powers too? I mean is he
- 25:45a Mic? Is he a Sam? I mean, you know, if
- 25:48you're a Sam, you're you know, you're kind of a man without a
- 25:52home in a lot of regards in the way that the defensive scheme is set
- 25:55up. I mean, if he's a MIC, you know, there's you
- 25:59you do run in to the situation of where you do kind of get pinned
- 26:02in on a depth chart and that just happens. And they're going to be
- 26:03players every year that have that happen to them. They just can't you know,
- 26:10they're just guys stacked in front of them and they just can't get to
- 26:11the can't get to the spot. I Gay Powers is another player that I
- 26:15thought, you know, coming out of high school, like you just put
- 26:18some weight on them and have them play end and that that could still happen.
- 26:22But you know, I just don't. I don't know. I mean,
- 26:25I don't talk about them because there's just not a lot of information out
- 26:27there about about Gabe at this point. But you know, I think that
- 26:33with Ohio State having two backers out there, it certainly doesn't help anybody who's
- 26:37not getting the reps right now. Yeah, it's exactly. There's just there's
- 26:41fewer reps out there because there's fewer linebackers out there. I mean, it
- 26:45makes sense if you think about it. And with the way they're recruiting defensive
- 26:48backs, I don't know that you want to take a defensive back off the
- 26:51field because they've got five pretty good defensive defensive backs this year from more more
- 26:56than five pretty good defensive backs out there this year, so you don't want
- 27:00to take them off the field. This is sort of the old why don't
- 27:03you, you know, the old Jim Tressel, Why don't you throw it
- 27:04to the tight end more? Well, because every time you throw it to
- 27:07the tight end, you're not throwing it to Ted Ginn or Santonio Holmes.
- 27:08Well, why don't you play more linebackers? Well, because then you're taking
- 27:12Denzel Burke or Davison Igbuinosen or Jordan Hancock or Caleb Downs or Lathan Ransom off
- 27:19the field. And those guys are all pretty darn good. So is the
- 27:22goal? Is the goal to win the game or is the goal to get
- 27:25all your favorite players out there? I mean, it's to win the game
- 27:26and whatever that combination is. And there's going to be times that that you
- 27:32just can't get everybody out there that you're that you're that you're pulling for and
- 27:36I you know, and that's just kind of one of those realities. Well,
- 27:40and the other reality is when James lour Ninis was playing for Ohio State
- 27:44and they were running a four to three a crew four to three offenses were
- 27:48a little different than they are now. There's a lot more throwing. You
- 27:51look at the stats from the two thousand, you know, the mid two
- 27:53thousands offenses, Everyone's throwing the ball a lot more, but you know,
- 27:59many more you are. It's a lot more, you know, a lot
- 28:00more scoring. By and large, you have to adapt to what the the
- 28:04opposing team does. So when you're playing Iowa, sure you might run three
- 28:07linebackers out there. You might run three linebackers out there when you're playing Michigan,
- 28:11depending on how how man ball Michigan wants to go this year. But
- 28:15there are gonna be plenty of times when you the realities of modern college football
- 28:19indicate you want the extra you know, the general trend has been move guys
- 28:26closer to the line of scrimmage, a little bit smaller, a little bit
- 28:27faster, and more guy you know, more sort of smaller, faster guys
- 28:33out there. That has sort of broadly been the trend in defense and in
- 28:37college football for the last ten years or so. As those spread offenses have
- 28:41kind of taken over the sport, maybe things are going to be trend you
- 28:45know, things seem like they may be trending a little bit back the other
- 28:48direction, especially you know with Michigan winning with not exactly a high flying offense
- 28:53last year. But you know, well, we'll see that's that's sort of
- 28:56a bigger picture conversation are probably prepared to have right here, Keith Michael says,
- 29:03of Laurainitis turns a linebacker room into strength, they'll be thrilled. I
- 29:07know he can recruit. Now we'll see if I can develop the talent.
- 29:08And this is a situation, Kevin, where Jim Knowles still is going to
- 29:12have a hand in those linebackers. So this is gonna be one of these
- 29:15situations where I'm not going to be one hundred percent sure exactly sure how to
- 29:21alligate allocate the credit. If the on field play from the linebackers is incredible
- 29:26this year, how much do you want to give to credit? Do you
- 29:27want to give to Lauraiitis versus Jim Knowles, who still is going to have
- 29:32a little bit of a say in there. Yeah, I don't I don't
- 29:34know how you really discern that either, because we're not going to see a
- 29:41clear and defined Okay, you you know you've got seventy five percent of your
- 29:45hand in on this, and you've got twenty five percent of your hand in
- 29:48onto this and this is kind of where it lives. I think that it's
- 29:52going to be a case of if your team Knowles or team Laurennidis and they
- 29:56play well, you're gonna you're gonna say it's all because of your guy,
- 30:00And that's just going to be the reality of it. But I think that
- 30:03having having somebody who is like the tactician and the way that Jim Knowles is
- 30:08and then having somebody that's not that far removed from their playing days and playing
- 30:14at a very high level in James Lorenidis, is going to be the best
- 30:17of both worlds for that position. Yeah, that's I think, I think
- 30:22a pretty good, pretty good assessment there. Ty Croner wants to know,
- 30:26is Mitchell Melton still on this team? Looks amazing when healthy? He's Mitchell
- 30:29Melton is still on this team unless I have missed, Unless I have missed
- 30:32a memo, And Mitchell Melton should be on this team. It's just a
- 30:36matter of they had him at the jack position last year and they just didn't
- 30:38use the jack position a whole lot. And the defensive line was great last
- 30:42year. I don't know that especially towards the end of the year. I
- 30:45don't think anyone was clamoring for them to take J. T. Twey,
- 30:48Moloow or Jack Sawyer off the field. So that may just be, you
- 30:52know, we maybe he's having the same conversation there, Kevin that we had
- 30:56with the linebackers in the secondary. Sure, you'd love to see him on
- 31:00the field. Who exactly would you like to take off the field to put
- 31:03him on the field. Yeah, I mean, unless this is Ohio State
- 31:07special teams where you're out there with nine or fourteen or whatever, I mean,
- 31:11you can only have eleven out there at any given time. So you
- 31:15got a roster of eighty five scholarship players, you go to one oh five
- 31:18with the walk Ons and everything else. More guys are not going to play
- 31:22than they are going to play. It's just kind of a nature of the
- 31:25beast, and you have to find the right situation. And I don't know
- 31:30if there's necessarily wholesale alignment on when to use the jacket when not to use
- 31:34the jack. I mean, when you kind of get into these hybrid boutique
- 31:40positions and you know that sound that just sounds so disarming in the sport of
- 31:45football such a you know, physical, violent sport. To talk about a
- 31:48boutique position, but it is a little boutiqui in some ways. And the
- 31:55goal is just to get out there and win the damn game. And I
- 31:56you know, I don't care really how you do it. Show me the
- 32:00baby, don't tell me about the labor. That's a that's a very colorful
- 32:07way to put it. But yes, exactly. PB super Chat says,
- 32:09it's good to be a Buckuy, thanks for all the great coverage, guys,
- 32:12looking forward to an exciting season. Yeah, this is shaping up to
- 32:15be a very exciting season. I think you know, you kind of have
- 32:19all the pieces there. You don't have the championship hangover. We talked earlier,
- 32:22but you know, all a bunch of these seasons where boy they're loaded
- 32:25and oh it just hasn't come together. Two thousand and three, twenty fifteen,
- 32:30that was when they were probably having a little bit of a championship hangover.
- 32:34They are watching Michigan. They just had to watch Michigan win the national
- 32:37championship. Definitely no championship hangover for this year's Ohio State team. So this
- 32:42is going to be a really unique one in Ohio state history in terms of
- 32:45just how, you know, just just what that could look like, because
- 32:50even the twenty twenty team looked like, okay, boy, they're they're coming
- 32:54back from the twenty nineteen season and know they're you know, they've got so
- 32:58much talent coming back and they're a team on a mission and coming off of
- 33:01that Fiesta Bawl loss to Clemson, and they did what they could do for
- 33:07the most part. But there were obviously, let's say, some extenuating circumstances
- 33:10in the twenty twenty season they may have limited them. You know, hopefully
- 33:15we don't have the circumstances in the twenty twenty four season as well. But
- 33:19yeah, it is I mean, this is Kevin as anticipated a spring ball
- 33:24as I think I can remember, just in terms of it's not just oh
- 33:29yeah, there's one player. It's oh, you know, oh hey,
- 33:30Terrell Pryor is going to be here. Who you know, Braxton Miller is
- 33:35going to be here or whatever. This is not like, oh, it's
- 33:38the one guy, it's oh, it's everyone. They have everyone. This
- 33:43is about as anticipated a spring ball as I can remember. I liken this
- 33:47to going into twenty twelve with Urban Meyer coming off of the six and seventh
- 33:52season, and everything was going to be new, and you know, Okay,
- 33:57we're finally going to see a team that is going to go going to
- 34:00go for broke and everything else, and coming off of very disappointing season and
- 34:06you know, all things being equal, eleven and two last year was still
- 34:08a very disappointing season for Ohio State. So it's got a major twenty twelve
- 34:15vibe to me in terms of just wanting to see what this is like.
- 34:21And because even even when Urban handed it off handed the controller in the famous
- 34:25video to Ryan Day, that was just like a handoff and it's just like,
- 34:30Okay, it's going to kind of continue. And Ryan Day just kept
- 34:34winning games and then you know, Ohio State faces a little bit of adversity,
- 34:37drops a couple few games to the hated rival, and now this kind
- 34:43of seems like this is going to be a reintroduction. Hi, guys,
- 34:46remember me, I'm your head coach, Ryan Day, and I'm here to
- 34:51to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.
- 34:54Yeah, And not only do you have all that, you also have
- 34:58the new and expanded Big Ten the College Football Playoff. Oh yeah, the
- 35:01college Football video game coming back. I mean, it's just there is so
- 35:06much going on right now, and you know, this has a certainly been
- 35:08a tumultuous time in the sport of college football, but it's also been you
- 35:13know, this is a pretty exciting time in the sport of college football on
- 35:15the whole. A lot of new stuff going on. We were just talking
- 35:19about the upcoming trip to Oregon, which could be like number two versus number
- 35:23three or number one versus number two, depending on how the first few weeks
- 35:27of the season play out. I mean, there are some monster games on
- 35:30this Ohio State schedule, some really exciting new stuff, the new dynamics of
- 35:36what are the twelve team college Football Playoff is going to look like. I
- 35:37mean, this is whive State is shaping up to be right in the middle
- 35:42of a potentially historic, historic history making season. So we would love to
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