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Growing Up as NBA Star & NBA Analyst Eddie Johnson’s Daughter – Jade Johnson | Born To The Game Podcast · Born To The Game Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Do this if you just want validation or money money,
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  Speaker 1: don't and don't do it for the reasons that people
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  Speaker 1: on the outside would assume you're doing it, which is
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  Speaker 1: uh for opportunity in and of itself.
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  Speaker 2: This is bond to the game's fake in. Every maid
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  Speaker 3: On to the game.
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  Speaker 2: Carry in the play goes on the path, but it's annoying.
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  Speaker 2: Proclaim to the game.
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  Speaker 4: We Explorence.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome to Born to the Game. Produced by Archimedia Group
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  Speaker 5: in collaboration with an Inflection Network and distributed through iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 5: This is the space where the children of iconic athletes, entertainers,
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  Speaker 5: and cultural figures share the real story behind legacy, the pressure,
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  Speaker 5: the privilege, the identity, and the purpose that comes with
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  Speaker 5: growing up around greatness. Today's guest grew up inside NBA culture.
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  Speaker 5: She is the daughter of Eddie Johnson, an NBA standout
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  Speaker 5: and Phoenix Sons analyst whose career spanned over a decade
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  Speaker 5: and left a lasting mark on the league through his scoring, ability,
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  Speaker 5: longevity and leadership. Uncle Eddie is also my dad's bestest friend.
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  Speaker 6: But today's conversation isn't just about who our father is.
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  Speaker 6: It's about who she is and who she's becoming.
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  Speaker 5: Police. Welcome my sister and dear friend, Jade Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Jane.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so happy that you're here with us, like it's
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  Speaker 5: been a long time coming. Yes, viewers, this is Justin's sister.
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  Speaker 5: So we had Justin on episode.
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  Speaker 6: What three of season one, and his episode went crazy.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody loved Justin so I was so touching. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 7: really resonated with a lot of people.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and viewers also need to know that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: we grew up together and our dad's our best friends,
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  Speaker 5: our mom's our best friends. So we go way back. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: we do. We go way back, and so we just
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  Speaker 5: want to hear your story. We heard Justin's, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I want, I want everyone to get to know Jade.
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  Speaker 5: You're beautiful. You have so much going on, So first
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  Speaker 5: and foremost, just kind of walk us through your upbringing.
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  Speaker 5: When was I guess the first time you realized my
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  Speaker 5: uncle Eddie was kind of a big deal, like he
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  Speaker 5: was doing the thing.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting because I was a baby when my dad
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  Speaker 1: was at the height of his career. He retired when
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  Speaker 1: I was about eight, so my earliest memory actually was
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  Speaker 1: in Greece. It was when he went overseas. He was
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  Speaker 1: already in the NBA, but then he went overseas and
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  Speaker 1: I remember kind of seeing him in that light around
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  Speaker 1: that time. And then he left there and went to
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  Speaker 1: Indiana and was with the Pacers, and then we went
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  Speaker 1: to Houston, which is where we reconnected. So I watched
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  Speaker 1: him consistently grow and develop. But I was a baby,
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  Speaker 1: so it was really impactful on my childhood to see
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  Speaker 1: that firsthand.
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  Speaker 5: So I remember just mentioned the cats in Greece. Do
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  Speaker 5: you remember that. Yes, he said cats will walk around
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  Speaker 5: and they look so clean, and their fur was nice,
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  Speaker 5: and they didn't have any callers. That was that part
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  Speaker 5: of yes, are memory.
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  Speaker 1: They were like our pets. Yeah, you know, we just
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  Speaker 1: had so many cats that would just come and hang
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  Speaker 1: out in front of the house. And Greece was a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful place. Because I was so little, I don't remember everything,
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  Speaker 1: but that stands out to me definitely.
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  Speaker 5: So what did people assume about your life that actually
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  Speaker 5: wasn't true.
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  Speaker 1: I think people assumed that because I came from wealth
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  Speaker 1: and success, that it was guaranteed for me in my
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  Speaker 1: specific industry and my own pursuits and my goals I
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  Speaker 1: think people think that my parents led up on me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I was highly disciplined. Like this is
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  Speaker 1: a little funny story, and when I was in high school,
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  Speaker 1: my TV broke in my room and I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: watch TV because my life was school, rehearsal, homework, sleep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and my TV broke and I was like, hey, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: just so you know, my TV broke. Are you going
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  Speaker 1: to fix it and put a new one in there?
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  Speaker 1: And he was like, well, why you don't need to
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  Speaker 1: watch TV? Like you go to school, you have rehearsal,
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  Speaker 1: Like when do you have time to watch TV? So
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  Speaker 1: that's the kind of discipline that was instilled in me.
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  Speaker 1: Early my senior year of high school, I won a
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  Speaker 1: small TV at our graduation party and I was so happy,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone was like, why are you so happy, Like
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a TV. And I was like, actually
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  Speaker 1: I don't. Actually, yeah, actually I don't. I took it
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  Speaker 1: to college with me, by the way, that little TV. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So I remember Justine said he don't watch TV.
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  Speaker 5: It runs in the family.
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  Speaker 7: They just don't need it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I watch a ton of it's to study, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, growing up, not.
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  Speaker 5: So much, Okay, so people didn't I guess you would
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  Speaker 5: say people would assume that you lacked discipline growing up
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  Speaker 5: in this type of environment. But I know you, and
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  Speaker 5: that's just something you've always been.
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  Speaker 7: You've always been.
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  Speaker 5: Extremely hardworking, goal oriented, and so it's interesting hearing our
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  Speaker 5: stories and people were like, wait, you're not a spoiled brat.
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  Speaker 7: No, especially if you know her mother. I mean, Auntie
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  Speaker 7: Joy is not. She don't play that.
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  Speaker 9: At all.
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  Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I mean I was in the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: with her, I was learning, I was walking down the
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  Speaker 1: hallway in the house because she's like, you know, one
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  Speaker 1: day you might need modeling skills and she may be
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  Speaker 1: put on heels and walk back and forth. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I was expected to be at rehearsal. You know, my
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  Speaker 1: mother was such a conduit between my growth as a
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  Speaker 1: child and me as an adult fully realizing myself as
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  Speaker 1: a woman. So they both had such a huge hand
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  Speaker 1: and who I am.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, she seems like a guide.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, just even growing up, just knowing her, she's
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  Speaker 6: always guiding y just always giving advice and wisdoms.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: What how was the dynamic between you and your dad
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  Speaker 5: growing up?
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  Speaker 1: It was great. My dad has always been a phenomenal leader,
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  Speaker 1: you know, So when you grow up with someone who
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  Speaker 1: knows how to provide and take care of their family
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  Speaker 1: and really other people as well, you are quickly shown
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  Speaker 1: what it takes. And I think I was introduced to
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  Speaker 1: high level leadership at a young age, so I could
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  Speaker 1: be a leader in my own right. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much pressure that comes with being a child
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  Speaker 1: of a successful athlete, Like there's always going to be
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  Speaker 1: some energy around that that you have to fight, even
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  Speaker 1: though it may not be true what people think, as
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  Speaker 1: I know, you know, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm sure your dad's presence in your life has
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  Speaker 5: affected your dating and will be into that get into
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  Speaker 5: that later.
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  Speaker 7: But before we'll.
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  Speaker 5: Talk a little bit just about the pressure and expectations
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  Speaker 5: surrounding being a part of this league. I know we
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  Speaker 5: touched on it a little bit, but Samar, I think
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  Speaker 5: let's let's let's get into that a little bit. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: So in your upbringing, expectation, identity, and pressure all come
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  Speaker 6: with the territory.
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  Speaker 7: So did you ever feel pressure.
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  Speaker 6: To be a certain way or to live up to
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  Speaker 6: something you didn't choose?
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  Speaker 1: Well, in seventh and eighth grade, I decided to play basketball, Jade.
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  Speaker 5: You actually weren't a bad player, thank you. You really were.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like you were.
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  Speaker 5: I think you were better at it than I was
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  Speaker 5: because I played for all of thirty days and I
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  Speaker 5: don't think I was as good as you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, volleyball was like your thing.
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  Speaker 5: Volleyball was. I'm just saying, like us growing up in
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  Speaker 5: the basketball world, I feel like you were better at.
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  Speaker 7: Basketball to play basketball, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I also played with the crylic nails, so helped
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  Speaker 1: me understand. Let me understand, Jade.
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  Speaker 5: Jade was that girling. You'll have to know, like Jade
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  Speaker 5: was a princess, like a little are you the ball?
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  Speaker 7: Like this?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was doing what I had to do,
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  Speaker 1: but I was just such a girly girl that it
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  Speaker 1: was stressed my mom out to no end. I'd get
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  Speaker 1: hit and she'd freak out like, oh, don't hit her.
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  Speaker 1: My Dad's like she's fine, she's fine. I was captain,
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  Speaker 1: but only because people liked me.
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  Speaker 5: No, you were good, though, Jade.
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  Speaker 7: Telling you you really were.
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  Speaker 5: You could have you could have really pursued a career
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  Speaker 5: in it if you weren't such a princess.
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  Speaker 7: But the love wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I love the game.
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  Speaker 1: Was no, I was on the bench thinking about my
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  Speaker 1: next player. That wasn't a play on the court, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but like what character I would play?
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I loved being in the theater, but I think the
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  Speaker 1: discipline that came with being in that environment, I also
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  Speaker 1: became a better athlete, you know. So I applied that
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  Speaker 1: to my life now as an artist. You know, like
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  Speaker 1: just the discipline to get up and work out and
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  Speaker 1: know how to train myself or know how to pick
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  Speaker 1: a trainer like that came from those interesting years of
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  Speaker 1: me being an athlete, being an athlete high school. No,
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  Speaker 1: not high school, middle school, middle school athlete. I'm trying tool.
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  Speaker 6: So did you feel like people had expectations or were
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  Speaker 6: projecting the success upon you or did you put it
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  Speaker 6: on yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I think I put it on myself. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was some external pressure as well, because it's just the
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  Speaker 1: environment I was in.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 1: My dad obviously played, my brother played at uncles who played,
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  Speaker 1: friends who I knew that played, So I think I
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  Speaker 1: just figured maybe maybe I could play a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think it was an internal pressure for
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  Speaker 1: me too to really maybe just cross it off my lists,
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  Speaker 1: like okay, like I could have done that, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's not the best path for me.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, So when you decided, you said you were on
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  Speaker 7: the on.
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  Speaker 6: The bench thinking about your play, thinking about the next
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  Speaker 6: play and role you would play. So to me, that
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  Speaker 6: seems like you were protecting you were, you know, protecting
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  Speaker 6: yourself and what you wanted for yourself.
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  Speaker 7: So how did you do that?
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  Speaker 6: How did you come and say, maybe you know basketball
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  Speaker 6: is not for me, and now I want to become
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  Speaker 6: who I want to become.
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  Speaker 7: So when did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: I think that naturally happened because even during that time,
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  Speaker 1: I was still doing theater on some level, so my
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  Speaker 1: heart was just there and I gravitated to where my
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  Speaker 1: heart was naturally guiding me too. No one sat me
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  Speaker 1: down and said, Jade, you know this is not the
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  Speaker 1: way to go, or you know, we need to express
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  Speaker 1: our concerns people, let me figure it out. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's really good when you give a child the space
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  Speaker 1: to figure it out for themselves, because then they can
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  Speaker 1: create their own path.
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  Speaker 5: Yes. Yes, So what inspired your acting and singing career?
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  Speaker 1: What inspired my acting and singing career?
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  Speaker 6: Or when did it start? Like when did there's always
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  Speaker 6: a bug? Get we get bit by the theater bug.
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  Speaker 6: So when did you get bit?
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  Speaker 1: I went and I saw my friend in a play
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  Speaker 1: and a local play in Phoenix, Arizona, and I just
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  Speaker 1: sat there and thought to myself, this is what I
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  Speaker 1: want to do. This is where I want to be.
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  Speaker 1: No one told me I could do it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I always knew I could sing a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but I was so shy, you know, people.
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  Speaker 5: Would never know that shy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so shy asked me to sing, and I'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: you sure, yeah, Like I was so shy, and eventually
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  Speaker 1: I just couldn't stay away. I mean, growing up, I
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  Speaker 1: may have been in like at least thirty to forty plays,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I was just in the theater. It's all
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do. And then I started to kind
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  Speaker 1: of move up in Phoenix and professional theater young. So
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  Speaker 1: I was being guided by my leadership in that space
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  Speaker 1: to cultivate my talent. And then I'm taking vocal lessons privately.
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  Speaker 1: And my parents gave me a keyboard when I was
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  Speaker 1: eight years old, and I started playing naturally, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so then I started playing piano. So I think
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  Speaker 1: it just organically happened that way.
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  Speaker 5: So what is it about performing, acting, and singing that
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  Speaker 5: allows you to just express parts of yourself that you
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  Speaker 5: couldn't otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think people assume that all artists and creatives
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  Speaker 1: are extroverts. Okay, true, and I would say that I
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  Speaker 1: as you guys, you guys know me, well, I can
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  Speaker 1: be extroverted, but I've not always been very expressive with
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  Speaker 1: my feelings and my heart. I think I've been kind
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  Speaker 1: of guarded in my life and maybe scared to just
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  Speaker 1: let people in on my vulnerability. And that's been the
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  Speaker 1: main note from every acting teacher I've ever had is
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  Speaker 1: you know, be yourself, be exists. You don't have to show,
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  Speaker 1: just do it. And so I think it was my
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  Speaker 1: way of letting my feelings out and letting my emotions
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  Speaker 1: out in a space I felt was safe.
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  Speaker 5: Say me.
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  Speaker 1: I had to learn later that who I am is
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  Speaker 1: who I am and it has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 1: what I do, and I should be able to do
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  Speaker 1: that on my own and like work on that on
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  Speaker 1: my own. But it gave me the playground to like.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of lift the veil a little bit and just relax.
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  Speaker 5: Do you feel like growing up in this industry, you
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  Speaker 5: had to naturally be very performative.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, And that's not the goal even
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  Speaker 1: as you know, a creative right now, it's not my
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  Speaker 1: goal to try to be good, you know, like I
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  Speaker 1: just want to be But at that age, there's such
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  Speaker 1: an emphasis on being good and what it takes to
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  Speaker 1: be good that I think who I am as a
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  Speaker 1: person took a hit. Yeah, So it took me some
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  Speaker 1: time to heal from all of that and realize, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm expressing myself through music, through writing, through acting, and
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  Speaker 1: I can apply that to my life separate from that
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 5: So what was the hardest or what is the most
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  Speaker 5: challenging part about pursuing a career in the arts?
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  Speaker 1: Which you say, the expectation of people who don't understand
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing. They can't understand it's like management of that.
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  Speaker 7: They don't know the process, they don't know. Most people
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  Speaker 7: don't know.
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  Speaker 6: And it's so funny that it's a great question because
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  Speaker 6: people just think, oh, well you should just call Tyler Perry, right,
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  Speaker 6: just call it yeah and just go on and on
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  Speaker 6: this movie set.
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  Speaker 7: You're like, okay, yeah, yeah, just go on to column.
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  Speaker 5: What So what is the process? You both are in
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  Speaker 5: the theater, you guys are in the art space. I'm not,
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  Speaker 5: so I guess it's dummy it down for someone like
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  Speaker 5: me who has no clue. So what does that process
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  Speaker 5: look like?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, it's laughable because it's like why did we?
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  Speaker 7: Why do you do it?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 4: Why would you do this?
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  Speaker 5: Like I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can give reference for some of the opportunities
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  Speaker 1: that I have now and what it takes to do it.
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  Speaker 1: So I just did the national anthem at the Suns
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  Speaker 1: Versus next game. I just got back in town from
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  Speaker 1: doing that. I've been doing national anthem since I was
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  Speaker 1: I don't know ten everybody in Phoenix. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: did basically every sports team in Phoenix and in LA
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  Speaker 1: and so people think, Okay, you get up there, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a minute and a half or two minutes, and
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  Speaker 1: you just do it and that's it. But you're prepping
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  Speaker 1: for like weeks in advance, what you eat, what you wear,
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  Speaker 1: how it's gonna look when you get up there, and.
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  Speaker 7: That song is hard.
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  Speaker 5: It's hard here, not everybody, it is hard.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah that's what I hear.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then everyone knows it. So if you mess it up,
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  Speaker 1: it's like they saying it. And then it's like and
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  Speaker 1: then you're being compared to the best of the best,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, give me a second here. So I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just that there's so much prep that goes
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  Speaker 1: into just the smallest preparing for character. There's so much
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  Speaker 1: prep that goes just into maybe just that one role
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  Speaker 1: you get on film or that one scene that you
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  Speaker 1: get to do. Like it's just more on the.
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  Speaker 6: Behind the scenes side the auditions, and people don't even
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  Speaker 6: understand that you have to be in to auditions. So
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  Speaker 6: when you get an audition, that right there is a
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  Speaker 6: win because one role can be like a thousand people
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  Speaker 6: can go off of one role that has two lines.
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  Speaker 6: The casting director has to sift through a thousand people
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  Speaker 6: for one role, and everybody's beautiful, everybody's talented exactly.
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  Speaker 7: So you get an audition that is a that's a win.
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  Speaker 5: So if you get through.
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  Speaker 6: The audition process and get one role that says, sir,
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  Speaker 6: here's your coffee, you just beat out thousands of people
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  Speaker 6: right there.
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  Speaker 5: What it sounds like, It sounds like the sports industry
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  Speaker 5: only a very select small if you can say that
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  Speaker 5: they successfully have mastered this industry. So my question is,
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  Speaker 5: before we talk about TS two and the project that
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: you're working on. Before we dive into that mentally, how
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: exhausting is it to try to guess fight your way
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: through this industry that only what point zero zero zero
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: zero five percent of the population can say that they've mastered.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: How do you navigate that?
• 19:16
  Speaker 11: Girl?
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: You like, you're like, well, look, you either choose to
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: or you don't.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Why I tell people, you know, don't do this if
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you just want validation.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: Or money or money, don't.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't do it for the reasons that people
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: on the outside would assume you're doing it, which is
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: uh for opportunity in and of itself. Like, when you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: love what you do, you're gonna find a way to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah you have, Yeah, you have, you have.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: That's one thing I have just just watching you over
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: the years, you have not ever given up, Like I mean,
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: every step of the way you've you've just found another outlet,
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: another way you've done an a I mean, you just
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: keep doing it and getting better and better. And it's
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: inspiring to watch it, really is.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I've done an incredible job just keeping your head above water.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Even during the times you probably felt like you were sinking,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: you still stood. At the end of the day, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: so I want you to talk to us about your
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: publishing company. T S two and how that was birthed.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I graduated from USC top of my class and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: acting period, and I left USC and decided that I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: was going to walk into rooms as a publisher my
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: first acting job, okay, And why I did that is
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: because I started to study publishing and I realized very
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: quickly that basically every dollar that meant something in the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: industry was a business dollar. So if I go into
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the room, it's just as an artists. That's like fifty
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: percent of the opportunity that I missed out on, which
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to necessarily be seen as a business person,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: But artists are a business people ninety percent business ten
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: percent show. That was what I realized very quickly, just
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: from reading enough books. And so when I started TS two,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I figure it, Okay, well I'll go into these rooms.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I'll have a business and I'll see who actually wants
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to align with me because of not just my talent
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: but my mind, and see if that can get me
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: more mentorship. And that's what happened. I walked into my
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: first room and I was like, hey, you know, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: have a publishing company. You know. I say I was acting,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: but really this is what was happening. I was building studios,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I was working with songwriters like I was doing it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I have a company TS two And the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: first executive whoever saw me properly was like, yeah, you're
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: also an artist, Like I see that right away, you know.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And I had done this performance of I Will Always
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Love You at the Walt Disney Concert Hall and I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: filmed it that I filmed and he saw that and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: he was like, Okay, I want to work with you,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but I really want to work with you because you
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: know business. Yes, thank you most hi, Thank you yes
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: for guiding me to that perspective, because, for whatever reason,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of people in power, either they'll take advantage
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: of you because you don't know, or they don't necessarily
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: want to deal with you intimately if you don't know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: because that's so much of it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about that when I was in school.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to be on stage.
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah two mean TS.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Two stands for time, space and sound. Oh I love that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: So where do you see TS two in five years?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I want to be one of the leading independent publishers.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You know right now we're in a great space where
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: if you have a music cattle, you can place all
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: different types of work all over the industry. I have
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: songwriters that I work with a lot. I would love
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to represent their catalogs and make tons of music with
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: them and just find different opportunities to place our assets.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: And so as a publisher, again dumb it down for me.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: So what is it that you do for the songwriters?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: So it's both development and it's pitching. So so much of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: my work when I got out of school was just
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: developing my catalog for an opportunity that I could pitch
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: my catalog.
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: We got it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So you're both trying to create assets, be it for TV, film,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: place on other artists. Like there's songs that I've made
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: them like I don't know if I'd sing that, but
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: so and so could sing that as the demos like
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that exactly. And I mean the goal is to have
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: like fully fleshed out finished songs in your catalog. But
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: you can have a really strong demo and someone hear
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it and go, hey, I can do something with that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: So you could like demo something to Beyonce. Absolutely, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: I got you.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would I would love that, you know, beyond,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I got a.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Song for you, for you, So, who would be a
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: person who you would just love to pitch a song to,
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: or just to for somebody to sing one of your songs.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I would love to pitch a song to Shade. I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: would love to pitch a song to. I mean, this
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is like the just speak it out, speak see the wonder.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I'd love to work with him. I would love to.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: There's so many, There's so many. I have so many
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: different artists that I love, both of the old generation
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and the new generation. Some of this new talent that's
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: coming up I think is really great. But ultimately I
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: just want to have a song for every situation and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: just continue to monetize my.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Well, we are going to pray for t S two
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: and we're going to pray much success over it. But
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: you are so you. You have beauty, you have brains.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: You come from this life where just there the ceiling
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: is limitless. You have a strong foundation at home, you
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: have a father who has presented just a inspiring, just
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: role in your life. So when it comes to dating,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you have You've had some challenges. I'm sure
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: it's it's been hard at times trying to find someone
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: who can fill the shoes of my uncle Eddie. And
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: again you come with brains and beauty and class, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: you know a specific lifestyle that you've lived. How has
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: that been for you? Dating wise?
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And tomorrow will Yeah?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: You know, why are we laughing already?
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: It's not easy. I look, do we have to parse
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: our words? Be candid?
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: We're so here's the question. Are you I mean you
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: could be single and not looking? So are you single
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: and looking?
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: Or are you like? Are you ready?
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: What do you want?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: At this point, I would love for my husband to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: find me in this cousin of my life because I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: feel I've cultivated who I am as a woman now.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I needed time. I was not an early bloomer in
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the sense that I understood myself and like what I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: bring into a relationship and how I can partner with
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a man. I just needed time, Like I wasn't the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: person who was rushing into relationships either when I was younger,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: because I think I just had to get to a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: place where I felt like there was something for my
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: husband to lead.
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Now it's like my husband could really run my whole thing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: I really don't know go ahead.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I don't have to be in control ever, but I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: just grateful that, you know, if I do get booked
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: for something and I'm like, hey, babe, you know I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: got to go to do this, that I could have
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: leadership over the life that I've cultivated for myself instead
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of trying to figure that out later. But you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it takes a while to get to a place, at
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: least for me, it took me a while to get
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to a place where you feel like confident that you're
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: ready to give someone that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: Power over you absolutely, you know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't attract the kind of man who doesn't
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: want that. So, I mean I attract all types of stuff.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: So what are you attracted to, Like, what is it
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: that you're looking for? Specifically?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I'm attracted to a man who's confident and where he
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is right now, Not that he has to be this this, No,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I just want him to be confident.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: And where he is just whole within himself, outside of finances,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: outside of the material things. You like, who you are
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: just standing with than yourself securefect.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: You have to have a really strong spiritual foundation to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: be able to help me, you know, get through things
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: with prayer and with ernest, you know, to like actually
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: survive what I deal with every day being in this
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: situation that I'm in and that myself, yes, and just
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: has to be great in leadership and not intimidated by
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: my social circle that I didn't ask for, I think,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: because that happens a lot. Men get intimidated, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: because they picture my dad standing there with the shotgut
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and it's.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Like and they know who he is. They probably I
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: mean not intentionally, but they feel like they have big
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: shoes to fill. Yeah, So, well they do, period, they do.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm not asking that you have the same level
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: of success that my father had. My dad's like five
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Emmys in what are we talking about?
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and success looks differently for everybody, right, So absolutely,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: And that's the thing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, just be confident where.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: You are and who you know, where you're going.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So when I walk into a room with so and so,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're, you know, having to prove
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: yourself and.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: These people, it's like, just so, are those some of
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: the misconceptions that people have about you? Like what are
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: some of them that they think? But you're actually because
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: here's what I'm trying to do. If if he's watching, Okay,
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: if he's watching, what are some misconceptions that people think
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: just by looking at you or just knowing what you've
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: done over the years of what you want, what you
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: actually want, and what you're you know, what I'm saying,
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: which they need to bring to the table, or what
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: you bring to the table as well.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: If he's watching, which camera shoes she looking at this one?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: If he's watching, you know, Hi, you don't need to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: be so concerned about fitting in to what has already
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: been built. Like I didn't actually asked to be here
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: in this situation. I just ribes survived here. But you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: do need to know that I need leadership and I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: need balance and I need support, and please don't bring
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: raging tornadoes into my established, somehow peaceful life. Yes, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I would love to be submissive to whatever you have
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: We brought out the s word submiss.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: There you have it. It's out there. So, uh, if
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: you're watching hit.
• 30:31
  Speaker 12: Her up on the d MT, this is Jade j Well,
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: I'm praying that mister Wright is watching this and he's
• 30:44
  Speaker 12: gonna slide up in them DM and say I'm ready
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: to get married, miss.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: And you know, what and I hope it does happen
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: on her watch. Because we've been saying born to the
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Game for Love.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I'm like, Evan, we need to we need to have
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: a dating show.
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: We were saying born to the game for love. We're
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: doing the you know, match making sessions.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: But if you're gonna be the first one, that's even
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: like even better because you know we're invested in you
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: think of.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Think of the wedding, married of babies, like I'm just
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: thinking of it. It's gonna start here, so it's gonna happen.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Well, let's transition into the game.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: Some games. The game.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: We haven't been able to play games yet, all right,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: So we're gonna play a little game. It's called Asking
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: for Friends. It's just you know, a little.
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: Keys funny here and there.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, what is one thing you feel men get away
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: with more than women and wish that you could do?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say everything, okay, everything. What is one
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: thing that men get away with you? Yeah, for sure,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: definitely cheating. Uh, but I don't necessarily want to cheat,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: so I would say I think they get away with
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: having their way.
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: Okay, they.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: The like domineering energy like that authoritative like I'm going
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to do whatever I want to do, and like they
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: treat life like a video game, like they really just
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: they get to kind of decide. I mean, I get
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: that they still have their own struggles and things that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: they go through, but I think for women, we'll put
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: more in a box. It's like, don't get out of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: this box. It's your box, and don't try to get
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: out of here. We've put you, agreed, And I think
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: for some women it's good when you let them, you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: step into positions of leadership.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: But also like they're considered strong, like if they if
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: they speak out or if they're very strong about something,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: then they're just considered strong.
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: We're considered a bitch, are hard to deal with.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: We're not allowed Yeah, we're trying to have masculine energy,
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: We're not allowed to voice and be passionate. We just
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: don't get the same exactly.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Audacity. You know, they're audacious and they.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: They can say what they want, but we can't.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I actually would say too that I almost respect that
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a man's going to do his best for him regardless.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I look for women who're like sacrificing things a lot.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I like that naturally, Yes, men naturally are more selfish,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: and it's okay. Women, especially women who come across that way.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: You're gonna have someone who kind of looks at you
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: and you're like, you're doing too much. Absolutely, you know
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: you're you're too selfish. You're only thinking about yourself. Don't
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: even talk about mothers wives, you know. The second you
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: don't pour him into your your marriage or your children,
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: some people look at you like, I know, by the
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: time we air this, it's not going to be trending anymore.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: But Josh Allen's wife, the quarterback is that him for
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills. His wife was presenting at the Golden
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Globes during a playoff game that he had. Oh, they
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: were tearing her up really because they felt like she
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: was being selfish in that moment by not being at
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: her husband's playoff game. But she was also doing something
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: that was great for her and her career, and that
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: just wasn't acceptable for some people. So, yeah, that's a
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: great point that you brought up, so, you know, but
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: to be a man maybe in my next life, but.
• 34:39
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't trade being a woman.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: But there are days I'm like, Damn, I wish I
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: was a man. It would be some things would have
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: just been a lot.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: I wish I could walk around my shirt off.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I talked about.
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: I want a son. Yeah, we can't do this in
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: a pro That's so true.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: You can do that for the sake of time. Let's
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: do one more. Yeah one, I have one. If you don't,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: let's see this is fun. Do you think you could
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: have more than one best friend?
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. I think that people can serve multiple
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: purposes in your life, and you can have real support
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: from places you never even expected. A lot of my
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: closest friends, you know, are older than me. They were
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: like people in the industry became my friends, you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: like my mentors became my friends. Like I like hanging
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: out with them a lot. You know, a lot of
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: my friends or friends I've had from my childhood, you know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So I think you can. I just think when you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: get a little bit older, you realize that not everybody
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: is meant to be in your life in the long term,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and then you kind of just respect the relationships that
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: have served you up until that point. So I think
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you just have to know when it's time to not
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: necessarily be the closest to someone. But I appreciate all
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of the close friends that I have. I feel like
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: they've helped me tremendously.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so part B to that, can your best friend?
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: Can somebody else call your best friend their best friend?
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Now I need to think about that. Choe, I would
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: be like, Chloe is your best friend? That's weird? Your
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: best friend? That does make sense?
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Like riddle me that that's secondary?
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: No, that was fun. Guys. Okay, so we do something
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: special and born to the game. Everyone has to give
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: us their best impression impersonation, whether it's a phrase.
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: This is gonna be funny for a moment.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: That perfectly captures their parents. And I think you and
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: I need to.
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: Uncle Eddie Mom.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: What's gonna happen is we're gonna have to bleep it out,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: like if we do theirs, it's gonna every other word
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: it's gonna have to get bleeped. So what's your give
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: us your best Eddie Johnson impression?
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: Wood?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: He shut up? Why are you standing there looking stupid?
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: But the fact that's what it is. My dad be like, Eddie,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: I hate you, I don't like you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Where's Joy?
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: I just I just where's Joy?
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: I only like her?
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: I don't like you either.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: What were my five outs?
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: I beat you?
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: I beat you in tongue? Were my five outs?
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: Oh my god?
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, A story though, you guys, you guys, you guys,
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: you gotta get the friendship.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my god?
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: So I were you.
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  Speaker 11: Okay?
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Sometime I quickly story time. I went to Arizona to
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: visit Uncle Eddy and Auntie Joy, and my dad was there,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: of course, because he can't go anywhere. He can't be
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: in Phoenix without being under So I bought both of
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: them rocks. They didn't know. He just bought them, like
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: random rocks. And I'm like, we're gonna have a friendship ceremony.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: I was like, everyone, get up. Everyone's in the living room.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, everyone, I have an announcement. I said,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Uncle Laddie and Mike Whitson. I need you guys to
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: just stand in the middle of the living room. And
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: they're fussed and they're like, I don't want to stand
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: next to him, and I'm like, stand here, I said,
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: look at each other, and I said, and they're fussing,
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I don't want to touch him. And your Mom's like,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: you guys, just do it. Mariah really just wants y'all
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: do this, So they're holding hands and just like looking
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: at each other. And I pull out these rocks and
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: I'm like, here's a rock for you, and here's a
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: rock for you, and these rocks represent y'all's beautiful, everlasting friendship.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: And I was like, I need you guys just to
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: hold them and just pray over them. And they're looking
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: at each other and they're like, what the fuck. They're like, Mariah,
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: you don't get this ship out of here. But as
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: quiet as it's kept, they both have their rock, definitely,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: they both have it. So when they saw each other
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: after that whole little ceremony, my dad was like, Eddie,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: do you have your rock? Do you have your rock? Eddie?
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Mine's in mind? And I don't think Uncle Eddie had it,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: And that hurt Dad's He was like, where is your rock, Eddie?
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I don't see yours.
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: Oh man.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: They love each other.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: It's hilarious, so hilarious.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Do not ever go golfing with them. We're gonna do
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: a moment in your voice. So you've talked about how
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: singing is part of how you express yourself and if
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: you're open to it, we love to hear just a
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: few bars or performance. Yeah, the window until just a
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: part of you if you're open, yes, scared, scared, all right,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: let's do it.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: Okay, ladies and you're gonna give her, go ahead and
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: introduce her.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: I like, I don't know how to introduce you, like
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen, the J. Johnson singing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: Cot Yeah, but my heart is so.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Visual.
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: Hot is your.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: In the middle.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: You're what I believe in.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, don't relieve, but I can't hear, easy to see it.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of a fantasy.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: They could contral.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: It's not bad.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: You want of meg bro, but.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a a long it's not another be and used
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to sound asleep?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: How do I looking at trees?
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: I'm like of carrying you.
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: Baby, carrying me?
• 41:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, baby, call me from it did since I just
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: see you to hold me?
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Capri said, hold me anywhere.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Hold me anywhere?
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: Oh that doesn't fade, And I'm afraid. Don't want to
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: reade baby bathe and I can't breathe can't breathe.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Easy to see.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'm caught in a fantasy.
• 42:37
  Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah me card, Yeah, it's just not wanna make.
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, lord, it's not a bee.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Hold me from a d sense?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Baby?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: True love does and fame.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Oh ah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: H h, that's a kind I feel like a rout parent.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: I just feel like, yes.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: About it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Go Jay, you gotta.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: You, gotta go girl.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: You all music platforms, right Marriott, Right now, That's what
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: Shout it out, talk about your legacy object. Yes, the song, Yes,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: How did it come about?
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: The lyrics?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny that song in particular had
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: so many different variations before it became this one. It
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: was just one of those songs that took on many
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: different forms before I settled happily on this one. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: so I co produced this song with the producer who
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: goes by Worldwide Dre and I had given him basically
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the foundation of the beat, like I had already done
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: the majority of the work, and I was like, just
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: make this like what only you can do.
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: Do it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And we had a few versions. And what I typically
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: do is all like freestyle. Who would beat with melody
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and sometimes words if it comes, and then I'll take
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: my pen and I'll kind of fill in the blanks
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: from there like a puzzle. And it was an organic
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: approach that just ended up being something that I think
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: is a vibe. You know, you could listen to cot
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: in the car, you know, listen to Caught in your headphones,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: you know, walking down the street, like it just has
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: that chill kind of vibe.
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: So what was the motivation behind the lyrics? You know?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Uh, the first few words of the song is, yeah
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: it was ages ago, but my heart is yours. Fear
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: been messing with my vision, but my heart is yours.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Caught in the middle, but you're what I believe in.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: So it was this push and pull between do I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: go forward with this person or do I stay where
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I'm at. It's like, well I'm caught.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, I love it. Well, you think it beautifully,
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I knew you would. Of course you execute beautiful.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: So let's go into your legacy and okay, how you
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: want to leave it? Your your legacy object that you
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: brought today? What does that represent to you? What did
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: you bring today? And what does that represent?
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: So the first is simply put, it's a pen. Okay,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: it's a pen because when I was a little girl,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I was sitting in my room writing poems and those
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: poems eventually became songs. So it started not necessarily at
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: a keyboard, but with a pen. Wow, you know, and
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: people I think underestimate the power like your vision, your story,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: how you communicate, what you're able to execute. It comes
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: down to I think personally great storytelling. I think the
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: best storytellers in the world are the most successful people
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: in the world. And so the power of the pen,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: it's for me. It's like, in the midst of everything
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that's happening in the world and everything that's going on
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: around me, that keep my pen, you know, try to
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: control the narrative as much as possible about not just
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: who I am and what I represent, but why at
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the end of the day. And this is so cute
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: because it's so kind of cute. So it's like representative
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: of my hometown. So that's my pen. And then you know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I was going to settle on the pen, but I
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: was like, you know what this even if it's case,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you can kind of tell it means something to me.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: But this was the first expensive but quality investment microphone
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: that I purchase myself. I invested in myself, and it's
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: annoymen and I started on, uh, what was that? I
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: want to say it was a garl it it was
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a blue spark. It was a blue spark mic it
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: was cheap mic, but it was like the best, like
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: starter mic for me. And then I graduated once I
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: had a little bit of money to spend to my
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: first professional and I would set this up in my
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: home studio and I've recorded some of the songs that
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: you'll find on Apple, Spotify, Pandora. They were recorded on
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: this microphone.
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: And you did it yourself.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: You yourself, and yeah, so it's my baby. So those
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: are my two legacy objects.
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: Proud of you.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: We are really proud of you girls. I'm proud of y'all.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: This is amazing, what is even happening.
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: You're You're on our coun andodness, and we just can't
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: wait to see the things that you're going to do.
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just it's this. There is no sky,
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: you know. I mean, you could just keep going up
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: and up and up and up and up. It's only
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: up from here.
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: So we're so proud.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: I'm proud to describe the legacy that you're building. If
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: you can, in three words, describe your legacy, put this away.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: My legacy. My legacy is being a creator and using
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: my creativity and applying it towards my primary focus is
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: you know, if you go to my Instagram bio, it's
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: very clear actress, sorry, actress, singer, writer, you know, with
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: an emphasis and beauty, lifestyle but music. So my legacy
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: is to utilize my unique skill set to both be
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a brand but partner with brands who need what I've
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: cultivated areas.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: And you are well on your way.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you guys.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: You again. We're so proud and you are inspiring. You
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: have such a positive and beautiful spirit about yourself. And
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: keep glowing and keep going going blowing and going glowing
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: and going okay. And if there's anything that you could
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: say to your dad, what would you say?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you for everything you've given me to
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: be able to execute in life, but to also be
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: able to fulfill what I feel is my life's purpose.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: And you and my mother, my mom, you've given me
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: all the tools next to what the most High has
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: given me. You've given me everything that I need to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: be able to be me. And that's saying something because
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: it's hard to do this. So I love you both. Dad,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you're the best, still got the best jump shot ever,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: and they they'll never be able to do it like you,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: so they'll always try. But you're a legend and I'm
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: really really blessed to be your daughter.
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: Uncle Leddie Auntie Joy. We have one more surprise for you, Okay,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: so we want to show you something.
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: Oh I'm gonna cry.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: Yep right there, yeah, pressent.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Hight Jad.
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: I'm so proud of you and everything that you have
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: done and your journey. Your journey has been laborious but
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: fun and it's not easy trying to make that role
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: to the top and what you're really focused on. But
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: I am proud of you, uh and what you have done,
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: the connections you have made, and it's gonna work itself
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: out at the highest level and you're gonna be protected
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: because you know all the nuances. I've always told you
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: you got to study, stay on top of things, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 10: that's exactly what you have done. I love you, and
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: keep your journey going. Pop Pop's right there watching from
• 52:30
  Speaker 10: above along with Mama, and you know your dad and
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: your mom got you. Love you, hij.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Listen to the beginning too, Hi, I'm so proud.
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: Of you and everything that you've done and journey.
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: Okay, you miss that. I wanted him.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: I wanted you to hear the HYJD.
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: You're right where you need to be right where you
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: and like he said, he's always gonna him and your
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: mom and us.
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: Is pop Papa? Is that your grandparents? Whose mom and
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: whose parents are those?
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: That's my.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: That's my mom's father.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they are with you along this.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: You were close to them. Yeah.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My grandfather was the first person to tell me
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you better sing what it's time to sing? Got me
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: on my shell because I was so shy. And my
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: grandmother it was like the fashionistas where my mom is
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the way to wait and she she taught me everything
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: about femininity and just you know what it means to
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: be a woman, you know, a wife one day, you
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: know all that stuff.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: So what a gift? What gift?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, this means so much to me.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Guys, thank you, We love you so much of you,
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: and thank you for joining us. Thank you for being
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: vulnerable and feeling like this is a safe space for
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: you to just share your journey and just allow us
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: into who you are and who you are becoming. And
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: who you are becoming is phenomenal. You are phenomenal, So
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: just keep going and you know that you have Tamar
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: and I as your sisters forever and ever and ever never. Yeah,
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: we're not going anywhere, so we love you, I love
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: thank you. This was a beautiful conference. This Evan gave
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: us the thumbs up, so.
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: We're good to go. We're really good out.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Thank you guys for tuning in to today's episode of
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Born to the Game. I'm your host, so Maria and
• 54:56
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