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- 0:00OK, resh samajh Gilmour. See Eve Hey Tinok schemate child
- 0:07baby who dies Kodem Shiaguya liyot Ben Shmona before he's
- 0:14eight days old. Malinoto al Qibro Bitsour Albert
- 0:19Kane. So the so the Menagiz Balaka is
- 0:23we right? It's not a halacha de raisa,
- 0:26it's more of a, of a minhug. And we cut the, we cut the
- 0:32Bristol Mila with a he writes with a stone or some kind of a
- 0:36sharp weed. The in mevarchim Allah Mila of
- 0:40all, we don't say the bracha, right?
- 0:42There's no bracha. It's certainly no mitzvah to do.
- 0:44But the Mila, it's just a minhag Avau messimimo.
- 0:47Shame Zehar. We do give him a name.
- 0:51So you remember him, Shiachamu Mina shamayam.
- 0:54So in the heavens I'll have mercy on him.
- 0:57The yeah, but kya tame team, right was we want him to get
- 1:01into Ganadian, we want him to get come up with Kyasame team.
- 1:04And he will be more, it'll be more appropriate if he has a
- 1:07Bersmila and if and if he has a name.
- 1:12And then this way we can also refer to him in Davin for him
- 1:15the an Osin king of Philo, the Yom Tosheni Shogalio.
- 1:19But we don't do this on Shabbos and not on Yom Tov.
- 1:24Even Yom Tosheni in Hudslas, the sur liquor be young tov and
- 1:29nephilim. It's aser to bury stillborn's
- 1:33afilu, the fuel, the tautel, aser even to move it.
- 1:36It's aser the aser Lamu goy shalola, shame, girud afilu, the
- 1:42whole. And it's aser to circumcise a
- 1:45non Jew unless you need to for the purposes of converting.
- 1:50Because in order to convert, we're going to learn soon that
- 1:54one of the requirements of conversion, right, there's 33
- 1:58main actions, or we'll call it 2 1/2.
- 2:02We'll see you soon. Besides Cabela's mitzvos, one of
- 2:05them is getting a bursimila or a tafa tambre.
- 2:09If they are are already circumcised, we'll get there.
- 2:12But if it's enough for that purpose, it's us, Sir, to do a
- 2:17bursimila. A bursimila is a special oath,
- 2:21confident brief between US and the Kurdish sparkle, the Jewish
- 2:24people and we're not supposed to share it.
- 2:27And it's it's it's it's a zilzo. It's inappropriate for ours.
- 2:32It also can confuse other people to thinking that maybe they are
- 2:36Jewish. So those are the reasons that
- 2:39it's not allowed, right? It's us or Medarabanam and some
- 2:44of the reasons why it might be mutter is the main 2 reasons
- 2:49that I've seen is either for financial for Scar, it's mutter
- 2:54and or if it's Mishun Eva. Those are the two reasons that
- 2:59I've seen. I've also heard I'm not sure if
- 3:02it's valid or not, but I've also seen for the sake of getting
- 3:05experience. So that is another that might be
- 3:09another another reason why it's mutter yes, exactly It's a
- 3:15Jewish it's a Jewish moel. He's allowed to take money for
- 3:19it to circumcise a non Jew and that's what and that's when it's
- 3:23mutter that's for your benefit. Then we say it's mutter.
- 3:26They're only Simon rage salmah Dali me rightly Lamu Obama
- 3:31maleem vaqueta Malin alef a Coke Sherry mammal Afilu evet isha
- 3:37vekatan VE Ariel user El shameeto shameeto ekhav mahmat
- 3:44Mila the emesh you sell. Let's start.
- 3:47Let me first translate. Everyone is kosher.
- 3:50The following are kosher to do a brasila on a baby.
- 3:54It could be an avid, right, An avid Kanan you were talking
- 3:58about. It could be a woman.
- 4:00It could be a a minor katan below the age of our mitzvah.
- 4:04It can be an RL Yisrael. It could be a uncircumcised Jew
- 4:09who died. I'm sorry, his brothers died and
- 4:11therefore they're not doing during when they got the Bristol
- 4:14shortly or because of the Bristol Mila.
- 4:17So therefore he is never going to circumcise himself.
- 4:21Such a person is still allowed to do the Bristol Mila, the
- 4:25English Yisrael Godel, Sheodiya Lamu, who called them a Coulomb.
- 4:31But obviously, but a proper normal circumcised Jew comes
- 4:38first. OK, hang up.
- 4:41So we see all those are kosher Vyesh on the Isha lot Tamil and
- 4:47the Rama adds that some say a woman is not allowed to do it
- 4:55and therefore we prefer not a woman and not a real big Mahocus
- 4:59there between the Shah Khanarak and the Rahma they both prefer a
- 5:02a man Ava goi afiluhu mahu luya mukhla.
- 5:08But one should not allow a non Jew to do the bris meal.
- 5:12That one should avoid at all costs the E Mao EIN sarik laksar
- 5:18vilamu paan shenit. But if a non Jew did do it, then
- 5:24it works. The Mila was done.
- 5:26It was cut. It isn't the the Aurila was
- 5:30removed and and he's no longer he's a Ben his whole life.
- 5:34He's a Ben Nemo. He's not an aura.
- 5:36OK, so you lost that on the bracha.
- 5:38It wasn't the mitzvah wasn't done the ideal way it's supposed
- 5:42to be done. But the the avid, it's kosher
- 5:46and there's and you don't have to do anything else.
- 5:49You have to have to find some breathe on the last case.
- 5:52So haggah viyesh Omrin, right? With this we're talking about
- 5:56the case of a non Jew, Dulinet. The other cases everyone says
- 6:01works Berievid and you don't have to do hattafa dambrit.
- 6:05The case of a goy, who does it? The non Jew, the khayevim
- 6:08lakhzor ulhatif nimenu dambrit dahanikar.
- 6:14Some say no. For that you need to do hattafa
- 6:16dambrit. And this is the Ekkar opinion
- 6:19and this is even according to the Chaukanara the the shock
- 6:22points out based on the from the base.
- 6:24So you'll say that you need that one should do had to fight
- 6:27Dumbridge. Now regarding a woman so that
- 6:29the task is that we don't see that a woman that a woman is
- 6:34Shyak and doing a Bruce Mila. We do see a story, obviously the
- 6:37one of the most famous stories by Moshe Moshe's wife Sepora.
- 6:42So she did that's that's a question what you can learn from
- 6:45there from wherever we learn the Helkos of Mila.
- 6:50We don't see it where a woman have any Shyakas to it.
- 6:54That was the case of Tsipura was before Matantara.
- 6:57And so it's a question how to deal with that.
- 7:00Anyway, that's that's the Makwalkas.
- 7:01Vishal, what's the Makwalkas? Whether a woman could do me if a
- 7:06woman is allowed to do a Bersmila, you know what, I'll
- 7:09just stop right here. Short question story from that
- 7:13same share from Ariely Billitz. He asked.
- 7:16This does come up once in a while, a female doctor, she's in
- 7:21the hospital and right she's she's involved giving birth or
- 7:25whatever the the family wants her to do it.
- 7:30So obviously we're not talking about from family, you know,
- 7:34usually such a case would come up.
- 7:38So the question is, should the female Doctor Who's religious,
- 7:42should she accept to do the Bristmula so she can't accept
- 7:49it. If they want it done normally,
- 7:51they're going to want to do it on the first, you know, first,
- 7:53second day before the baby leaves the hospital so that she
- 7:57can't do right. So we have to wait until the 8th
- 8:00day. That should be obvious.
- 8:02So let's say they're willing to come back or they want her to do
- 8:05it in a home, can she do it? So, so you pointed out that
- 8:10problem is if you if you think that they're going to use a non
- 8:13Jew to do it and before the 8th day, so he says you stomach the
- 8:18woman should do it like Akila. In that case, that case it
- 8:22becomes like Akila for her. Normally you wouldn't have a
- 8:25woman do it, but if there's no choice, she is certainly kosher
- 8:29to do it when needed. And that would be preferable for
- 8:33her to do it than to end up having a non Jew or done on a
- 8:36different day. One of the things that come up,
- 8:39we're going to get into it more, but it was just tangential.
- 8:43So I'll just point it out real quick.
- 8:44When a meal is done in the hospital, they want to do it so
- 8:47that it's it's idiot proof and it's at least bleeding as
- 8:51possible. And what's often used in a
- 8:54hospital setting is a clamp instead of just having a shield
- 8:59again that covers where you slip the foreskin right through
- 9:04before you cut to protect it. So it's impossible to touch the
- 9:09the, the end, the head of the of the penis, the the glands, the
- 9:13attara, it's that protects it. So it's impossible.
- 9:16Nothing goes through but the skin.
- 9:18But they use a basically the same idea but instead of having
- 9:23a 1mm slit for the skin to go through, it closes it completely
- 9:28and it basically crushes the the blood vessels so that this way
- 9:33it's a much cleaner cut. When you cut, there's not much,
- 9:37there's not much bleeding and depends how long do you put the
- 9:40clamp on. If you put the clamp on very
- 9:43quick and cut, you'll have more bleeding.
- 9:44If you leave it on longer, you'll have less bleeding.
- 9:47So there generally is bleeding. So miik are again, so many are
- 9:52are against many. Generally the postscheme are
- 9:55against it or very much against it.
- 9:58It's not the Minogue utreal. And the main problem is, well,
- 10:03we're going to see there's a few issues.
- 10:05There is cutting the Mila, the Aurila and the Priya together.
- 10:09We're going to talk about it soon.
- 10:11That's the least of the issues. The bigger issue is SAR the
- 10:16Anuka pain for the baby because when that clamp is done it's
- 10:23very painful for the baby. I think they even have tests
- 10:28like with the brain waves to show that it is very painful.
- 10:33I mean, I'm sure we could all imagine if you get a paper cut,
- 10:36usually you don't even feel the cut happening at all.
- 10:39Anytime you have a quick smooth cut, you generally don't feel
- 10:42it. It's you feel the sting
- 10:44afterwards. But when you have a pinch and
- 10:47you get pinched, wow, that hurts.
- 10:49So that's the that's the difference When you do a cut,
- 10:52you don't generally don't feel it.
- 10:53We assume the same thing by Shrieta.
- 10:55When you do a smooth slice, you don't feel it or minimum, but
- 11:00when you're doing, when there's a the clamp, so that's very
- 11:04painful. So that's, that's the biggest
- 11:05problem with Sardi Anuka emotion.
- 11:08Igos Moshe speaks about it, others speak about it.
- 11:11So it's definitely, definitely not recommended, not the way to
- 11:18do it, but it's still kosher. And it's better that than to do
- 11:26than to have a goi do it on the first day.
- 11:29So that's but I don't think they have I don't know, but I don't
- 11:32know if they have a choice in the hospital to use it or not to
- 11:35use it. Probably depends on the
- 11:36hospital. If there's no good question,
- 11:40Moshe asks if there's no, there's no bleeding.
- 11:43So that's a problem That is an integral part of the brasmila.
- 11:47Do you have to do a Tafas tanbris?
- 11:49I don't know if we definitely need for for safety reasons.
- 11:54That's Itza we're gonna get to is part is done for because of
- 11:57Sakana, because it's healthier to have the sucking and pull out
- 12:01a little of the blood. At least at least that's what
- 12:04was thought so Dambris. So I believe I I can't say it
- 12:08for sure, but I believe all or most postskin would say you
- 12:12should do a Tafa Dambritz. But that's what I'm believe
- 12:15without without seeing it inside this.
- 12:19This is a good question. I don't have any sources for
- 12:22that. Mumerola Cola Tara Kula person
- 12:24is a mumer for the entire Tara Oshuhu mumar.
- 12:29Or he's just a mumar when it comes to being an RL.
- 12:32Do you know agoy? He has a din of agoy for the
- 12:36purposes of the shock points out hold your horses.
- 12:39We're talking about for the purposes of Mila.
- 12:43We give him a din of agoy that he shouldn't do it and if he
- 12:46does it then we do a toughest. But a mumar for an RL is not
- 12:52normally considered like a non Jew right?
- 12:55That's because that's just a Muammar la davar ekhar tinoq
- 12:59shilutra hula Mullah talk shimona MI penne A sakana.
- 13:03If for whatever reason there was a baby that needed to have a
- 13:06breast within 8 days because of a sakana in Hilo beni sur al
- 13:11lagoi Nicole talk shimona LO MI cremila.
- 13:15It doesn't matter if the doctor is Jewish or not or the one
- 13:18who's doing the bris amila is Jewish or not.
- 13:20If it has to be done within 8 days because Allahukley, that's
- 13:24not a amila, it wasn't done, OK. And so still we would do now
- 13:29that actually we mentioned before is a mahlocas.
- 13:32It's actually interesting. What did the Rama say from the
- 13:35very beginning? Just to compare, raise some
- 13:39olive, he writes Alva Roma belaila, sorry klaksor, but
- 13:44malutosh Mona ubayom yatsa here he writes.
- 13:50So therefore the shock points out a simple reading.
- 13:54It's Astira, so therefore the shock says in Raysha Mukhbet he
- 13:59holds it's good, but you still need to do a tafas maisa.
- 14:04We would do a tafa sombre meal. Imish aroud seats in Hama aquin
- 14:08amila oshima villa para jigumar. You sell Amila the Shimona.
- 14:12If there are seats in Hama aquin at the Mila or one did Amila and
- 14:18he didn't do the Priya. We're going to explain this more
- 14:22in Gimma. You'll understand this more.
- 14:25You know in Charlotte, seats in Hama aquin amila.
- 14:27So you have parts of the Mila that are part of the orillas
- 14:32remains. So we say the Mila wasn't
- 14:34kosher, it wasn't finished. Or you did half the brisk Mila.
- 14:38You basically did Mila villa para.
- 14:40That means you removed the double layer.
- 14:42We'll explain. You removed the outer Orla layer
- 14:45of skin, but not the inner layer of what we call the Priya.
- 14:49So then or the OR Priya Yigmar Yisrael Hamila leschmona Ola
- 14:54Akharshi trape. So then say if once whatever
- 14:58you're going to finish to do right, and this is on a Darissa
- 15:01level, which is integral part of the Mila, then, then you would
- 15:07wait to do that portion, right? If you needed to do part of it
- 15:11for whatever the reason, then you did it on the first day if
- 15:15it was an emergency of sakana, but you, you will hopefully have
- 15:19or whatever is left, right? If then you save that portion,
- 15:23if it's teaching, if it's part of the integral part of the
- 15:26Mila, you save that for the 8th day or until he's healthy,
- 15:31right? Well, the case is a case of
- 15:33sakana. So it's it's likely you're going
- 15:34to have to show obismano yeh shua Adam laksar ulahada akhara
- 15:39moel ubal breathe eterto with Sadiq.
- 15:42A person should always whenever they pick a Moel you want to try
- 15:45and pick a a well, you're a Shamayam, an experienced Moel a
- 15:51a good one and it's sagic. The IM not an Ulhad a Sir
- 15:55Laksabe. Once you choose a mole and you
- 15:58designate him, you can't go back and switch Who who does it MU IM
- 16:03Khazar Bo have a Hazara. But if you do go back, then it
- 16:08works. You're allowed to I mean it
- 16:09works to go back. Yeah.
- 16:11It doesn't have a Tyne on you the EIN Moyo Bazer Kubo Kenyan.
- 16:17And just because you would you you decide to use him.
- 16:21It's not a, it's not a Kenyan. It was only words and therefore
- 16:26you don't have to, you say Kenyans, Varian, Baal Mahu and
- 16:31therefore there's no, there's no contractual obligation.
- 16:35You don't owe him anything, but you're not supposed to.
- 16:45But if you made a Shihuah that he's going to do it.
- 16:47So then we, we force him, if not to new la ekhad velohaya bahir
- 16:51vah Avaya savor shalo yasham bizmanamila.
- 16:55If when he chose somebody, he would have chosen somebody else.
- 16:59But the one, the mobile that he wanted, he thought was, was not
- 17:02available, wasn't in the city, wasn't available.
- 17:05So therefore he chose mobile number 2.
- 17:07But he really wanted mobile number one.
- 17:12So then he gets, he sends together, right?
- 17:26Yeah. I don't know why you're adding
- 17:27the. And once you choose the second
- 17:33guy, then the first guy shows up, right?
- 17:38So Yamalenu Harishon, you're allowed to let the first guy,
- 17:42whether the whole story happens 5 minutes before the Mila or I
- 17:47think that's the same thing if it happened 7 days before.
- 17:49So then Yamalenu Harishon, you're allowed to let your
- 17:54number one choice, even though you asked #2 first the Vande
- 17:58Lokhazar Minharisham, because he never changed his mind and gave
- 18:02it to the second guy first. He really wanted the first, his
- 18:06first choice to be first, but he wasn't available.
- 18:09So that's not a, that's not a problem where we say you're not
- 18:12allowed to change, right? Isha iniholi teen the acher Lamu
- 18:17dehre Ena sheikhab the mitzvah lamuh at bena a woman.
- 18:22She can't choose who the moell's going to be.
- 18:25I'm sorry in a Shaikh of the mitzvah the mole it's up to the
- 18:27father. So let's go on to bet Nicole
- 18:30Molly with every instrument one is technically allowed to do
- 18:34Mila, but I feel a bit sore, whether it's stone Ubisoft heat
- 18:38or with glass. Ubisoh Devara correct.
- 18:41Anything that's sharp and cuts hoots micromit shell Conner, but
- 18:45it's you shouldn't use the what's it called like a leaf.
- 18:53That's I mean, bamboo is hard. So it's a bit we're talking
- 18:57about something that's hard, but we shouldn't use something like
- 18:59that. The feet Shiksami Mitsimi MENA,
- 19:03because if you use that, sometimes splinters come out of
- 19:06it. We have only day Karut Shifka
- 19:10and it can end up damaging the the Avor and make it so you
- 19:15can't have any any kids or Mitzvah Minamucha Lamuola Barzel
- 19:20and I mitzvah minamukhar. The best thing to do is to use a
- 19:24metal, whether it veins, Sakine vein, the misparime, whether it
- 19:29is a knife or scissors, Finagula, mulabi Sakine and the
- 19:34Mina clearly has always been only to use a metal blade, a
- 19:38knife. And if except what's often done
- 19:43at the very end after the main Mila is done.
- 19:46So then to remove extra little little pieces of soft tissue,
- 19:52the skin, a little extra tabs to make it look nicer or even just
- 19:58for the halacha part to make it kosher that afterwards it's very
- 20:03common that they use the Moline use scissors.
- 20:06It's it's easier and that's what's usually done.
- 20:10OK, fine. We'll do the next we'll actually
- 20:13discuss the actual cutting itself.