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Wander the World: A for Adventures helps you explore local gems · Wander the World with Pippa Hudson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wonder the World.
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  Speaker 2: And in today's episode, we are joined by a couple
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  Speaker 2: who have made it their mission to help us all
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  Speaker 2: fall in love with our own backyards as it were.
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  Speaker 2: The names Seleka Suliman and aliskir Jan Muhammad. There are
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  Speaker 2: the duo behind a platform called A for Adventures, which
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  Speaker 2: is a travel and lifestyle platform with thousands of followers already,
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  Speaker 2: and they are just as passionate about discovering South Africa
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  Speaker 2: as the creators of the platform are. And basically, this
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  Speaker 2: duo uncover hidden gems, small towns a little off the
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  Speaker 2: beaten track. They also uncover great places to find the
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  Speaker 2: perfect cup of coffee or croissant for breakfast, or to
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  Speaker 2: try something a little different that isn't just your standard
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  Speaker 2: tourist experience. So they're all about loving the local and
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  Speaker 2: encouraging us to be tourists in our own country. And
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  Speaker 2: the best part of all, of course, is that means
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  Speaker 2: you never have to go through the trauma of a
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  Speaker 2: visa interview ever. Again, Celera and Asco welcome, It's wonderful
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  Speaker 2: to have you with us.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, it's really cool to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for having us. It's A turned to your
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  Speaker 4: listeners as well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with the name A for Adventures.
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  Speaker 2: What's the origin or are we going to see iterations
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  Speaker 2: BCD and Eastill coming in future?
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  Speaker 4: No, actually, I think so. It's it's our names. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: the first A on A for Adventures has got my name,
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  Speaker 4: s is Salah has name, and I think it puts
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  Speaker 4: together what we want to do. We want to be
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  Speaker 4: adventures in all.
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  Speaker 3: We want to help people be adventurous. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So we were like, you know, let's just keep it simple,
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  Speaker 5: not too complicated, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The adventurous spirits something that's been instilled in you by
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  Speaker 2: the people came before you, or something that's been your
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  Speaker 2: thing to say, I refuse to live a quiet life like.
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  Speaker 1: Those who've gone before me. I'm want to do it differently,
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  Speaker 1: I think the latter.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we've both grown up and not traveling way
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  Speaker 5: too much, and you know, at some point we just realized,
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  Speaker 5: funnily enough, it was you know, this cathartic moment on
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  Speaker 5: top of table mountain very literally to say that, well,
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  Speaker 5: this is such a beautiful country that we live in
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  Speaker 5: and we we really need to take advantage of that
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  Speaker 5: and explore it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And I think one of the things
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  Speaker 4: that we realized being in South Africa is that often
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  Speaker 4: we don't know what to do because we think everything
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  Speaker 4: is expensive where it's for tourists or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: But what we have realized that's not the case. You
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  Speaker 4: can go up Timber Mountain that's free, and there is
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  Speaker 4: so much more to explore that we're in a budget
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  Speaker 4: friendly way and learn about our beautiful country.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I asked you guys to
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  Speaker 2: join us here today, because we have I mean, and
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  Speaker 2: there is place for make no mistake, there's place for
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  Speaker 2: the luxury experiences and the wonderful lodgers and the new
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  Speaker 2: hotels and all those things. Absolutely not saying don't use them.
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  Speaker 2: But I love the fact that you guys are all
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  Speaker 2: about saying, keep it accessible, make it something that an
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  Speaker 2: ordinary South African who has to worry about a budget
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  Speaker 2: can still do and see and experience without necessarily having
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  Speaker 2: to spend half their annual savings to get around the world.
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  Speaker 1: That's even before you've got the visa.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what was the very first place that you
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  Speaker 2: visited together when you decided you were going to do this,
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  Speaker 2: What was the first thing to populate the site.
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  Speaker 4: So I think before the site, I think Stellenbosch came
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  Speaker 4: to mind. So we visited Stellenbosh. I think it was
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  Speaker 4: a four day trip and just being there. What we
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  Speaker 4: tried to do is we wanted to do everything that
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  Speaker 4: was everywhere, and we found that there was not one
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  Speaker 4: space where we could find something where Muslims as well.
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  Speaker 4: So halal is so important to us, and that is
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  Speaker 4: something that we wanted. Accessibility and often many people said, oh,
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  Speaker 4: Stellbush is a wine city, but it's not. Actually it's
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  Speaker 4: a place that anyone can visit. And making that accessibility
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  Speaker 4: part so critical is so useful, I think. And I
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  Speaker 4: remember the budget being so important because we always open
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  Speaker 4: up the Excel sheets of the Google sheets and for
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  Speaker 4: us that budget matters and we were able to do
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  Speaker 4: that and that really made a difference for us.
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  Speaker 3: Funny enough, that wasn't our first post.
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  Speaker 5: Oh hey, The first post was probably actually the Table
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  Speaker 5: Mountain hike, because you would think that there is so
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  Speaker 5: much information out there about it, but we wanted to
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  Speaker 5: do the scenic one instead of just going straight up,
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  Speaker 5: and it took us quite a lot of searching to
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  Speaker 5: actually find even though it was such a popular thing
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  Speaker 5: and that was probably our first post. And I mean
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  Speaker 5: when I look back at it now, I think we've
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  Speaker 5: come such a long way.
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  Speaker 3: How many years ago was that almost?
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  Speaker 5: For this?
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  Speaker 3: Ok?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: For it now important to emphasize this is not your
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  Speaker 2: full time job. You both have careers and income streams.
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  Speaker 2: This is a passion and a passion that you love
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  Speaker 2: sharing with other people. But I think that also emphasizes
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  Speaker 2: what I was saying about accessibility and budget consciousness, that
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  Speaker 2: they travel with budget restrictions and with having to juggle
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  Speaker 2: a work life and all those things that normal people
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  Speaker 2: face in life, and that is reflected in the kinds
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  Speaker 2: of stories that are shared on their platforms. Now, you're
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  Speaker 2: partly about finding entire new destinations to visit, but.
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  Speaker 1: You're also sometimes about saying.
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  Speaker 2: Let's find the best cup of coffee or the perfect
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  Speaker 2: plate of eggs for breakfast, or whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 2: When you approach a new destination, do you go with
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  Speaker 2: a sort of completely blank slate and open mind, or
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  Speaker 2: do you sometimes go to a place with a fixed
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  Speaker 2: idea that somebody has told us you can find the
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  Speaker 2: best briosh in the Western Cape in Napir and that's
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  Speaker 2: where we're going this weekend to eat Briosh.
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  Speaker 1: How does it work?
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes it is the latter, but not too often. I
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  Speaker 5: think we both like we've realized that, you know, everyone
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  Speaker 5: has different palets, especially when it comes to food, and
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  Speaker 5: so we kind of like going in with just you know,
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  Speaker 5: an empty slate, no pre We won't read the reviews, especially,
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  Speaker 5: I like, I won't check because I know that it
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  Speaker 5: will probably color my opinion of it, and then we
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  Speaker 5: will try something completely random from the menu. Sometimes we
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  Speaker 5: might try a couple of things, and we both have
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  Speaker 5: different tastes as well, so that's nice to.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of can't tell you something that we don't like.
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  Speaker 4: We don't like the top ten or top fifteen things.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we don't believe though I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think those are very specific for a generalized group,
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  Speaker 4: and as human beings, we're all different, I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and that that uniqueness has to come out. And even
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  Speaker 4: when we review something, we often say that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this is Alaska's experience, this is sally A's experience. Try both,
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  Speaker 4: actually experience both and open yourself up to that, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So definitely we are planners. Planners, planners because I'm an engineer.
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  Speaker 4: She's a public health specialist by background. But I think
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  Speaker 4: for us that travel is all about getting long. It's
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  Speaker 4: about trying something that nobody has recommended and then sometimes
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  Speaker 4: failing that way. Because failing is such a critical part
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  Speaker 4: of traveling.
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  Speaker 2: I think your second guest to say today how important
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  Speaker 2: traveling is in our failing is rather in our life
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  Speaker 2: experience that you learned so much in the moments where
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  Speaker 2: things don't go according to plan, and you might have
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like you, like me, a big planner, that
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  Speaker 2: half the fun is the preparation for the trip before
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  Speaker 2: you even get there. But sometimes things do not go
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  Speaker 2: your way. Let's talk about some of the experiences that
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  Speaker 2: you've had because of the plans going off the beaten track.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to ask you about favorites,
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  Speaker 2: because I know this isn't as you said, it's a
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  Speaker 2: very personal thing. But you each want to share with
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  Speaker 2: us an example of a time where things didn't go
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  Speaker 2: according to the plan but you ended up discovering something
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  Speaker 2: wonderful or experiencing something amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, oh honeymoon was a very good experience.
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  Speaker 4: In here, I'm going to share something that I was
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  Speaker 4: outside of South Africa, but I think it's still worth it.
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  Speaker 4: We were visiting Spain in March, I think, and for
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  Speaker 4: the first time in ten years, it was raining in March.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, imagine that right in our honeymoon Lovely. So
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  Speaker 4: I'm at the airport. I've never seen the weather, and
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  Speaker 4: I look at the weather and I know it's raining,
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  Speaker 4: and I become the whiny baby that I am, and
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  Speaker 4: I start complaining and my wife is like, what.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to do?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 1: The planet is right there.
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  Speaker 4: But regardless of that, what we did was we got there,
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  Speaker 4: we went to the nearby spaces. I think we got
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  Speaker 4: some cheap winter where and we started exploring the city.
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  Speaker 4: We were soaked, drained, but the reality was we had
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  Speaker 4: something that we wanted to plan and we wanted to
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  Speaker 4: explore it, and we were like, the rain is not
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  Speaker 4: going to get on over awhere. And I think sometimes
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  Speaker 4: we often think about and I'm particularly bad at this,
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  Speaker 4: often think about the bad things and then just realizing
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  Speaker 4: that follow the plan, it'll work out.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, I think what comes to mind for me
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  Speaker 5: is a couple of years ago, we did a road
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  Speaker 5: trip across a couple of provinces in South Africa and
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  Speaker 5: we were leaving Kimberly and we were driving the speed limit,
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  Speaker 5: but if you've been to Kimberly then you would know
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  Speaker 5: the potholes of the size of you know, meteorite. Eventually,
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  Speaker 5: we didn't realize we actually needed to drive a third
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  Speaker 5: of you know, the speedim We got into a very
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  Speaker 5: bad situation because we ended up having a puncture and
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  Speaker 5: neither of us in theory, both of us know how
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  Speaker 5: to change tire, but in real life we were just stumped.
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  Speaker 4: We had I never owned a car, so I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: So it was really nice though, because somebody actually stopped
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  Speaker 5: and he's like he was rushing to a meeting. He
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  Speaker 5: told us this and he actually stopped and helped us to.
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  Speaker 3: Change the tire.
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  Speaker 5: Fantastic, and it was such a sweet like experience because
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  Speaker 5: it really reminds you that, like you know, we sometimes
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  Speaker 5: have these perceptions about places and things, but people are
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  Speaker 5: just wonderful if you just give them a chance.
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  Speaker 4: To classic South Africans, we're just lovely, lovely people. We
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  Speaker 4: were there top everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Had the exact same experience I've laid on a couple
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  Speaker 2: of months ago and was the same thing. Fat tire
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  Speaker 2: Stranger coming out of nowhere underneath the car, lifting that
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  Speaker 2: thing up, giving himself covered in Greece and left quietly
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  Speaker 2: without so much as leaving us with his name. It
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  Speaker 2: was just it was one of those moments you are
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  Speaker 2: reminded that people are good, actually more than they are bad.
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  Speaker 2: Just in case anybody who's come in midway to this conversation,
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  Speaker 2: let me just fill you in and catch you up.
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  Speaker 2: Our guests are Selaia and Aliska Silliman of All Selah Suliman,
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  Speaker 2: Aliska Young Mahamad.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: You are the duo behind a platform called A four
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  Speaker 2: Adventures and the S. It's a capital aid at the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: a capital s at at the end, civilizing their names.
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  Speaker 1: It is a platform that.
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  Speaker 2: Is all about encouraging local travel and encouraging South Africans
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  Speaker 2: to explore in their own backyard and find all those wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: quirky sites and experiences and people that make this country
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  Speaker 2: so special. Is it primarily for South Africans or do
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  Speaker 2: you find that you get international visitors interacting with you
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  Speaker 2: and asking for advice.
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  Speaker 5: We do get a lot of international visitors asking for advice,
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  Speaker 5: and I think because of that, more recently we have,
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  Speaker 5: especially on our website, kind of geared things towards if
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  Speaker 5: you are visiting, for example, Capelan for the first time,
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  Speaker 5: these are the things you.
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  Speaker 3: Must do, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Or we have itineraries available and we have i think,
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  Speaker 5: you know, organized customized itineries for international travelers as well,
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  Speaker 5: but we find that the needs are usually different for
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  Speaker 5: depending on where you're visiting from.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I think the thing that we realize with our
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  Speaker 4: platform is that we want to balance up both so
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  Speaker 4: South Africans want to visit their country. We've seen that
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  Speaker 4: they've told us that they sometimes I have two children
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  Speaker 4: and they're like, well, with two children, where cand I
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  Speaker 4: go visit and there are spaces that you can visit
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  Speaker 4: and still explore and the world isn't ended, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And I think that especially in this budget crisis situation
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  Speaker 4: where everyone is looking at their income very closely, I
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  Speaker 4: think we want to ground ourselves to the reality of
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  Speaker 4: South Africa and show people what they can do and
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  Speaker 4: explore wonderful things right at their doorstep.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things I think that was one of
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  Speaker 4: our popular videos was the Seras Railway and that video
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  Speaker 4: I think we went to seven hundred thousand views in
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  Speaker 4: just a few days. I think because nobody knew that
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  Speaker 4: there is a train or working train at that time
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  Speaker 4: that goes from the Foreshow to go into the Elgin Market,
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  Speaker 4: and people are fascinated by it, and everyone had so
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  Speaker 4: many queris, so many questions about it, and they were
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  Speaker 4: able to visit this amazing opportunity, this amazing experience, sorry
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  Speaker 4: through this video, and that is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I've had a couple of listeners who we've chatted to
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  Speaker 2: and about them before, and a couple of listeners you've
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  Speaker 2: messaged in to say they've done that trip.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard a bad word about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's something everybody says is completely unique experience. What's been
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  Speaker 2: your most surprising destination or experience a place that really
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  Speaker 2: wasn't what you thought it was going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Mine has to be the Golden Gate National Park. So
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  Speaker 4: this is this amazing place and I strongly recommend it's
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  Speaker 4: in Free States. I strongly recommend going to the National
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  Speaker 4: park itself and living there. It's incredibly affordable. You won't
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  Speaker 4: have to break the bank for this. It's like being
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  Speaker 4: in heaven. You stay there. The mountains are surrounding you.
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  Speaker 4: It's so so beautiful. Even when you climb the mountains,
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  Speaker 4: you stay there, you will switch off, you won't think
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  Speaker 4: about anything for those couple of nights, a couple of
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  Speaker 4: days that you're there, and I highly highly recommend it.
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  Speaker 5: I think for me a surprising destination was probably joe
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  Speaker 5: Burgh because yeah, I think people and myself included, often
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  Speaker 5: feel that, you know, Joeburg is a city city. You
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  Speaker 5: go there for work, you you know, you kind of
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  Speaker 5: don't really go there for leisure, you don't want to travel.
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  Speaker 5: The first time I visited joe Burgh, I was shocked,
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  Speaker 5: and since then I've wanted to go back so many
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  Speaker 5: times because I still feel like there's more things to do.
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  Speaker 5: It's so different from Cape Town, but in an amazing way.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the mistake we often make is to
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  Speaker 5: compare the two. Yeah, but it's like.
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  Speaker 3: Comparing apples and oranges.
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  Speaker 1: A hundred percent degree.
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  Speaker 2: I lived in joy Wick for ten years and I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I only scratch the surface and all the
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  Speaker 2: places to explore in the time that I was there,
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  Speaker 2: And every time I go back, I have that feeling,
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  Speaker 2: firstly of how fast it is and how much it's
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  Speaker 2: grown since I was there. But secondly, how much I'm
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  Speaker 2: missing that is there to be explored. So I completely
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  Speaker 2: endorsed that. I mean, it's the dream to be able
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  Speaker 2: to do this time wanted.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, No, I think we both love our jobs and
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  Speaker 5: we love the fields that we're in. This has become
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  Speaker 5: a much bigger passion project than we expected it. I
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  Speaker 5: think when we started, we had no idea that we
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  Speaker 5: would I mean in four years we're almost a community
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  Speaker 5: of thirty five thousand people, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Which is unfathomable.
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  Speaker 5: It's so humbling, but probably not full time no, No, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think this is also a platform for us eventually too.
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  Speaker 4: So I think something you'll see from our page is
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  Speaker 4: we don't post anything we don't want to do. So
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  Speaker 4: I know sometimes it can become very pressurized where you
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  Speaker 4: do things that you don't want to do because that's
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  Speaker 4: the demand. But very much we have stayed truth to
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  Speaker 4: this aspect that we want to do the things that
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  Speaker 4: we are excited about.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like Sadah I said, I think we are so passionate
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  Speaker 4: about our own careers as well, where we do so
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  Speaker 4: many social impact work as well, that we want to
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  Speaker 4: create both of these platforms. And I think the world
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  Speaker 4: is moving towards the stage where you do multiple jobs
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, and that's something we really aspire towards.
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  Speaker 5: In to add I think the fact that we don't
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  Speaker 5: just share absolutely everything, I think is something that our
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  Speaker 5: community does appreciate. Like we had someone come up and
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  Speaker 5: tell us like we've changed the way that they traveled
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  Speaker 5: in well, and someone else said that they exclusively trust
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  Speaker 5: our opinion and that because we posted about this particular place,
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  Speaker 5: you know, they're definitely going to go there. And it's
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  Speaker 5: a responsibility that we don't take likely because at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day, if somebody you know, recommended something
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  Speaker 5: to us and we went and spent our money, then
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  Speaker 5: we wouldn't want to mislead people into you know, just yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it comes down to authenticity as well, and
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  Speaker 2: I think people are getting the more media save we get,
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  Speaker 2: the more people recognize it when they see it and
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  Speaker 2: value it when they see it, because there is so
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  Speaker 2: much of the opposite kind of content out there that
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  Speaker 2: has just baby based on whoever paid me to say this,
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  Speaker 2: So I think hands hands off off to you for
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