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Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday morning. Joe Strecker is rolling out the Van Halen.
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  Speaker 1: I just let this soak in for a little bit
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  Speaker 1: good stuff at five o'clock in the morning. How are
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  Speaker 1: you doing this morning? Good morning. I'm Dan Jerrold and
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  Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas, and we are rolling till nine o'clock
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  Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, I was thinking about I get to
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  Speaker 1: sit here and talk to the great audience that is
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  Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Been a little while
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  Speaker 1: since I've been here, but always glad to be sitting in,
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  Speaker 1: especially when Joe Strecker's running the board. And what am
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  Speaker 1: I going to talk about today? What am I gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you I've got? And I was thinking today probably
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  Speaker 1: going to be a show with a lot of leftovers.
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  Speaker 1: And what do I mean by that is I when
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  Speaker 1: I when I'm preparing for shows, You when you do this,
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  Speaker 1: you overprepare because you never know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're staring three or in this case four
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  Speaker 1: hours a dead air in the face, you got to
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  Speaker 1: have stuff ready to go. So there's I do these
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  Speaker 1: shows and we get on a subject and we talk
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  Speaker 1: about it, and there's a lot of stuff that never
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  Speaker 1: winds up making the air, and so I'm thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: I've got a lot of that stuff. I'm just going
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  Speaker 1: to kind of rely on that. Joe's got lined up
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  Speaker 1: a couple of guests for us a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: on this morning. Andrew Pappas is going to be here,
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  Speaker 1: and that's going to be in the seven o'clock hour,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some local things, probably talk about
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  Speaker 1: mostly about the city settlement that is going to go
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  Speaker 1: to protesters from the summer of twenty twenty, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is just one of the poorest decisions that the
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  Speaker 1: city could possibly make. And then citizen watch dog Todd
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  Speaker 1: Zenzer will be here in the eight o'clock hour. I've
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  Speaker 1: had taught on my shows. I've spoken with him on
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  Speaker 1: the phone, I've texted him many times. I have never
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  Speaker 1: met him in person. So today he will be here
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  Speaker 1: in studio in the eight o'clock hour, and I will
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  Speaker 1: meet him in person. So I'm looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm looking forward to talking with you.
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  Speaker 1: Five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to get the eight hundred number from Joe
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  Speaker 1: in a minute. I don't have anything to write it
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  Speaker 1: down much. I should have a pencil here, but he
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  Speaker 1: Joe put in front of me with the Inquirer has
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  Speaker 1: had a look at the at the settlement agreement. I
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  Speaker 1: had this yesterday and I haven't had time to read
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  Speaker 1: it all. But the Inquirer did did a breakdown of
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  Speaker 1: who gets some of the eight point one million dollars
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  Speaker 1: in the settlement against Cincinnati and the protesters who will
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  Speaker 1: get some of the eight point one million dollars were
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  Speaker 1: not charged with felonies or damaging property according to the
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  Speaker 1: Racial Justice Protest, and the Racial Justice Protest is that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that it had a name, Joe, did
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  Speaker 1: you realize that it had a formal title? The Inquirer
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  Speaker 1: calls this the racial Justice Protest in the summer of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Would anyone from the Inquirer care to explain
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  Speaker 1: that how are those and what was the racial injustice
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  Speaker 1: that was being that was being demonstrated against? I would
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  Speaker 1: like to know. In any case, the Inquirer got a
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  Speaker 1: hold of the riot settlement. Let's see, let's see, let's
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  Speaker 1: see what they get there, who is getting the money
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  Speaker 1: and how much the attorneys will get about two million
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  Speaker 1: million dollars in legal fees eight point one million dollars
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  Speaker 1: of the eight point one two million out of the
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  Speaker 1: eight point one million, and then I think I saw
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  Speaker 1: where there's another five thousand for expenses. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: that was right now. I have to go back and
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  Speaker 1: look at that. According to the city and attorneys for
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  Speaker 1: the plainiffs, there were four hundred and seventy nine plaintiffs.
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  Speaker 1: The settlement names the eleven lead plaintiffs. The plaintiffs get
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  Speaker 1: to divvy up five thousand, twenty do I'm sorry, five million,
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine thousand, five hundred dollars, which comes out to
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand, five hundred per person. Those in the settlement
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  Speaker 1: who were detained for a period of more than five
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  Speaker 1: hours in association with their arrest could be eligible for
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  Speaker 1: up to another two thousand dollars. So let's see, you're
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  Speaker 1: detained for five hours and you get two thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: for that. It's my way of thinking that comes out
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  Speaker 1: to about two hundred bucks an hour. Protesting pays. Well, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: you're knocking down two hundred bucks an hour here at
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  Speaker 1: the at the station pretty close to that, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: let's see the eleven lead plaintiffs receive an additional five
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars apiece for their role in representing all the plaintiffs.
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  Speaker 1: And isn't that just andy? I mean, this just reads
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  Speaker 1: like an unbelievable grift. So how how do you? How
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  Speaker 1: do you go out and protest, defy a lawful curfew,
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  Speaker 1: defy police, wind up getting arrested, and then wind up
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  Speaker 1: being a lead plaintiff? And and the I believe the
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit was filed a couple of years after the fact.
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  Speaker 1: This was twenty twenty. We are now approaching twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: So all these years later, you're the You're the lead
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  Speaker 1: plain if I'm the lead guy, and I'm getting an
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  Speaker 1: extra five grand because because of what? Because of your
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  Speaker 1: according to the inquirer, their role in representing all the
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  Speaker 1: all the plaintiffs. How are they represented? What? What do you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean? It's such a joke just on the face
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  Speaker 1: of it. Let me see what do we got. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of more minutes here to talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see the plaintiffs. So, okay, the planeffs are going
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  Speaker 1: to divvy up five million dollars five thousand apiece for
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  Speaker 1: those for the leadership role that the eleven lead planis
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  Speaker 1: had an additional three hundred thousand be sent aside for
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  Speaker 1: planets who submit claims for uncompensated injury during the arrest.
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  Speaker 1: So the arrest was made in twenty twenty. This is
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, going on twenty twenty six. If you
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't discovered your uncompensated injury by now, when
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  Speaker 1: will that happen? But there's three hundred grand out there
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  Speaker 1: for the taking, So I suspect those individuals are meeting
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  Speaker 1: with attorneys and medical professionals, professionals as we speak, to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to get their fingers in that pie.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get into more of some of this breakdown
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  Speaker 1: as we move on with the big eight point one
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  Speaker 1: million dollar settlement. It's five point fifteen. We got to
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  Speaker 1: get to a little bit of a break Dan Carroll
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  Speaker 1: and for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV toald On
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  Speaker 1: once a second. It is twenty one at fifty five KRCV.
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  Speaker 1: He talks to I remember when I was on the air.
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  Speaker 1: It was earlier this year. I want to say it
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  Speaker 1: was a couple of months ago, a couple three months ago,
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  Speaker 1: and the news came that the guy who wrote this
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  Speaker 1: song had passed away. Joe, did you know that the
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  Speaker 1: guy who wrote this song for Golden Earring he passed away?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, really, one of the greatest rock songs of
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  Speaker 1: all time. If he asked me a little Radar love?
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  Speaker 1: And the name of that guy escapes me at the moment. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I I don't remember that. I don't remember the dude's name.
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  Speaker 1: But still it's a great song, Radar Love. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Let's see, we're talking about the the what the Inquirer
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  Speaker 1: put out about the settlement. Let's see, the four hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy nine planeufs in the lawsuit were charged with
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  Speaker 1: misconduct at an emergency, a misdemeanor related to violating the
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  Speaker 1: city's curfew, said Jacqueline Green, an attorney for the planeoffs.
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  Speaker 1: The full settlement agreement attained by the Inquirer doesn't include
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  Speaker 1: the exhibits that list all of the beneficiaries. The Inquirer
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  Speaker 1: has requested a full list of people receiving money from
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  Speaker 1: the city, and I would I would think that there
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  Speaker 1: should be a full list. You're gonna get money from
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  Speaker 1: the city, we should know where that money is going,
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  Speaker 1: should we not? Seems pretty straightforward to me. Let's see,
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  Speaker 1: the city eventually dismissed the charges related to the curfew.
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  Speaker 1: So it wasn't you know, it wasn't enough that these
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  Speaker 1: individuals went out there and there was damage done the
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  Speaker 1: first couple of nights of the of the protests, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, the mayor put the curfew in place.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't enough that they you get, you get arrested
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  Speaker 1: for violating the curfew. H But now you have to
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  Speaker 1: go and sue after your case was dropped and you
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  Speaker 1: you wound up facing no charges whatsoever. You know, why
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  Speaker 1: can't why can't you just take a deep breath after
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  Speaker 1: that and say, man, dodge the bullet on that one.
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  Speaker 1: No charges or the case has been dismissed. I had
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  Speaker 1: some charges, got arrested, okay, but not gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: do any time, not gonna pay a fine. Everything gets
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  Speaker 1: kind of washed away. Why can't that be good enough? No,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go find some lawyers that will
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  Speaker 1: take the case, get some money out of It's it's
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  Speaker 1: never enough. And again, although the way this this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing is being set, it just it just invites more
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  Speaker 1: of this, does it?
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  Speaker 2: Not?
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  Speaker 1: Am I read? Am I wrong? Am I? Reading this wrong,
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  Speaker 1: am I is my view on this so out of place?
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  Speaker 1: But I see all this money that's gonna be doled
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  Speaker 1: out city bending over backwards, there's gonna be there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be new police training. I was. I was scrolling through
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  Speaker 1: this during the break, trying to get to the part
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  Speaker 1: where where they talk about the police training that's going
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  Speaker 1: to take place, and now they're gonna come up with
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  Speaker 1: these new these new guidelines for police. No, I've got
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good idea that our police know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Our police have a pretty good idea of how to
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  Speaker 1: handle these these these malcontents. But no, no, not good.
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  Speaker 1: You know, our city manager and Iris Rolie, they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna have they have more training for our Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: police how to do things the right way. So we
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't know, Maybe maybe we can just maybe
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  Speaker 1: we can just skip all the all the legal wranglings
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  Speaker 1: and just maybe give what do you think about this, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe when we when police go out there to calm
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  Speaker 1: down rioters and protesters and protect property, maybe they can
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  Speaker 1: just go out with a giant sack of one hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars bills and pass those out. Would you please, would
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  Speaker 1: you please go home? Now? Here's here's five or six
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  Speaker 1: hundred bucks for your trouble. Would that work? Will that'd
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  Speaker 1: be just you know, maybe we can save the attorney's fees,
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  Speaker 1: save the idea, just just cut cut the legal process out.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe we need to have a big pot
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  Speaker 1: of money and and and you know, schedule our protests
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  Speaker 1: the railroad money. Take some of that railroad money and
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  Speaker 1: just have a giant stack of it somewhere at city
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  Speaker 1: Hall or maybe at police headquarters that we've got a
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  Speaker 1: protest tonight. All the cops on second shifts, come on,
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  Speaker 1: come on in. Well you got we got your sack
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  Speaker 1: full of you know, each one of you is going
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  Speaker 1: to have about ten grand, and see if you can
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  Speaker 1: see if you can talk him into accepting you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, three four hundred bucks apiece to go away.
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  Speaker 1: Take your money, now, go away, Maybe we'll see you
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Let's cut cut al Gerhardstein out of the process.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he wouldn't he wouldn't like that one bit,
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  Speaker 1: ah man, But there's a council committee. What do let
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  Speaker 1: me see, I had a Fox nineteen story.
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  Speaker 3: On this.
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  Speaker 1: Talks They named that council. It's it's I think it's
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  Speaker 1: the council that used to be a law in public safety.
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  Speaker 1: But they have a meeting today and they are going
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  Speaker 1: to the council committee is going to either say yay
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  Speaker 1: or nay on this settlement. Oh yeah, that Joe says
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  Speaker 1: nay is out of the question. But I would strongly
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  Speaker 1: encourage any members of council who may be listening right
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  Speaker 1: now to I say no, be bold, stand up and
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  Speaker 1: say we will see you in court. Take it to court.
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  Speaker 1: Take it to court. We lose in court, I think
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  Speaker 1: I I in may Cobb wind up costing more money,
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  Speaker 1: but I think I'd be better off with that. Look,
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  Speaker 1: it's not my money. I don't live in the city.
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  Speaker 1: I don't vote in the city. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I paid tax. I'm sure something. Maybe some of
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  Speaker 1: my tax dollars go to the city. Take it to court.
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  Speaker 1: Be bold five twenty six fifty five KRC. The talk
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  Speaker 1: states you're one stop for advertising. Call eight four to four,
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  Speaker 1: eight five twenty nine. On this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll
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  Speaker 1: in for Brian Thomas, And the first thing I saw
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  Speaker 1: that was put in front of me this morning is
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  Speaker 1: he inquired did a breakdown of who was getting the
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  Speaker 1: settlement money. Were the protests violent? The protests were largely peaceful,
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  Speaker 1: but on the night on one night May thirtieth, twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: windows were broken at various locations downtown, over the Rhine
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  Speaker 1: and the University of Cincinnati. Multiple businesses reported theft of merchandise.
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  Speaker 1: And according to the settlement, you know, those really bad
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  Speaker 1: people who broke the windows, the people who stole the merchandise,
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  Speaker 1: did all those bad things. They apparently, we are told
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  Speaker 1: that they are not getting any money at all. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: no money for you, apparently. And I guess that's that's
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  Speaker 1: in the settlement. And I'm scrolling through this thing. Let's see,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. Excluded excluded from class definitions. Excluded from
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  Speaker 1: the settlement class are this is I guess point number
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  Speaker 1: sixty six A. Persons who executed a release of waiver
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  Speaker 1: of claims in favor of the City of Cincinnati in
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  Speaker 1: connection with a plea agreement disposing of any criminal charges
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  Speaker 1: that arose between May thirtieth and June eighth of twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Persons who were charged with any accompanying felony or offense
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  Speaker 1: of violence or property damage who were alleged to have
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  Speaker 1: committed any such actions in connection with a criminal charge.
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  Speaker 1: So how many of those people are there? How many
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  Speaker 1: of those people who actually damaged property were only wound
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  Speaker 1: up to be charged with a misdemeanor effense. How do
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  Speaker 1: you go in and break all that down. It's one
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  Speaker 1: thing to say that, yeah, the people who broke the windows,
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  Speaker 1: who damaged property, who stole things, it's easy to say
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  Speaker 1: that they're not going to get any money. But so
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  Speaker 1: far removed from this entire process, how do we know
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  Speaker 1: that that is what is actually taking place? How do
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  Speaker 1: we know that they were actually charged with those offenses
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  Speaker 1: instead of just being lumped in with everyone else on
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  Speaker 1: these misdemeanor charges. How do we know? I don't know. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's see person's not listed in Exhibit A who brought
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  Speaker 1: claims against the city alleging constitutional rights violations relating to
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  Speaker 1: their arrest, detention, or prosecution in association with their presence
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  Speaker 1: in the area of a protest between May thirty and
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty and June eighth, except for Kathleen Burbage or Burberage.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why Kathleen Burbridge gets an exemption here.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a yeah, So these are the the
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  Speaker 1: people who I guess there's some people who got arrested
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  Speaker 1: that they're saying, don't get any money. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I'm buying into that. Jay, what's going on today?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning. I think that I think your idea
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  Speaker 4: is brilliant. I was thinking about this yesterday, that these
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  Speaker 4: protesters are just paid whoores anyhow, right, So so if
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  Speaker 4: George Stros or somebody like that is paying them to
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  Speaker 4: go to these towns and tear them to pieces, and
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  Speaker 4: what we probably ought to do is have somebody with
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  Speaker 4: the brains in the connections and intelligence like Iris Rawley
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  Speaker 4: to get in the middle of this and for a
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  Speaker 4: small fee, I think she could facilitate like an eBay
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  Speaker 4: auction where the town is, you know, town of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 4: is going to have to outbid George Soros and she
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  Speaker 4: will get just a small cut her and her LLC
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  Speaker 4: maybe like fifty seven percent to facilitate this.
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  Speaker 1: I always not going to do anything unless unless she's
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  Speaker 1: getting a cut. I think we're all well aware of that.
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  Speaker 4: Well well correct, but I mean it's just it's just
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  Speaker 4: the track record of being able to facilitate extortion that
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  Speaker 4: I think she's highly qualified, maybe uniquely qualified, and with
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  Speaker 4: her connections in the city. That that's how the town
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  Speaker 4: after they have UH, you know, make poor choices with
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  Speaker 4: an election, get your wallets out or other George Soros's people,
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  Speaker 4: we are going to burn your place down, which is odd.
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  Speaker 4: Whenever you have a communists on communist violence, that is
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  Speaker 4: that's unfortunate, to say the least.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was left.
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  Speaker 4: Bluetown gets hard gets attacked by hard left protesters.
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  Speaker 1: The day I learned of this settlement, I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to some friends of mine who are in the Hamilton
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  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's department and they and they were out there
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  Speaker 1: those nights assisting or working alongside Cincinnati police. And it
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  Speaker 1: was suggested to me that many of these people who
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  Speaker 1: were out there engaging in this activity, we're already being
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  Speaker 1: paid up front through a Soros organization. So this is
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  Speaker 1: this is a nice double dip for them. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how much you get
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  Speaker 1: paid up front, but on the back end, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to collect between ten and twelve grand. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: a leader, if you're you know, one of those who
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  Speaker 1: jumped on UH, and you're a lead plaintiff in this
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  Speaker 1: for your role in representing the other planets, you get
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  Speaker 1: an additional five grand. It's it's like the Wheel of fortune.
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  Speaker 1: It's better the wheel.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's like the right days of the mafia.
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  Speaker 4: It's the glory days of the mafia.
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  Speaker 5: May's high tech.
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  Speaker 4: It's extortion money. We're just going to pay quote protection money.
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  Speaker 4: If the town can get their wallets out and pay
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  Speaker 4: these protesters more than the Soros is paying them, well
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  Speaker 4: then they'll go away.
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  Speaker 1: But doesn't this sent me? Does it send a message?
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  Speaker 1: Does it send a message to people who want to
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  Speaker 1: engage in this activity in the few? You know, they're
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  Speaker 1: not going to do it now because it's cold outside,
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  Speaker 1: But when things warm up a little bit, let's get
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  Speaker 1: some more protests going. Because we know that the city
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati likes to pay out.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what is the con there's a comment about with government,
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  Speaker 4: whatever you subsidize, you're going to get more of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think whatever subsize you get more of. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's fact. Jay. I appreciate the call this morning.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Good stuff man, there you go. I appreciate jb in there.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Got to get to a break five thirty six, five, one, three, seven,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: fifty five hundred, Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas on
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the talk stations Waynam going up Ran
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Chuhn Ingram fifty five k r C, the talk station
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the talk station Dan Carroll and for
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. During the protests in late Man and early
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty, while many of the demonstrations were peaceful,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: certain events did take place that devolved into vandalism, such
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: as looting in the downtown areas and over the Rhine
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and Clifton. The C three CDC Corporation estimates approximately eighty
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: businesses sustained a total of about two hundred and seventy
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars in damage. Small businesses had their windows smashed,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: planters were upturned, dumpsters were set on fire, general vandalism.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: The Hamilton County Justice Center had windows broken out, American
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: flags were taken down. I think there was even some
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: shots fired at police. Most of the damage occurred during
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the first two nights of unrest, and in response, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: city implemented a curfew that lasted from May thirtieth through
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: June eighth, and so my memory of this is that,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and these riots were going on across the country. I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: was almost on a nightly basis, turning on the TV
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and saying, I'm gonna watch the riots tonight. See what
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: cities are Burnie, see what mayhem is going on in
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: different cities across the country. And then when things started
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to pick up here in Cincinnati, and the riots that
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: could have occurred, the craziness that could have occurred here
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati was largely short circuited because of what police did,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: because of what the mayor did. And I remember thinking
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that this is a good thing, that Cincinnati should be
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a model for the rest of them. This is how
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you you stop this thing from getting way, way out
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of hand. And now we've got to pay these people.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it really takes the wind out, at least
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: for me. It takes the wind out of the sales. Jeff,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: what say you this morning?
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: Well, I just wanted to say good morning. And I'm
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: wondering if you ever wondering if you ever go to sleep.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: I hope they pay you by the.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: R No I got, I got, I got some sleep
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: last night. I'm good man. I appreciate that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Two questions Number one, does the City of Cincinnati have
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: a line item regarding you know, their budget regarding non
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: governmental organizations and contributions to you know whatever they call themselves,
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: and then where what they do with their money? And
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: then question number two is, you know, I'm thinking I
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: could use a job to supplement my NFL five dollars
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: a week gambling monkey all my back, and I was
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: wondering if if you got any ideas they asked to
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: where I could apply for a job as a protester.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: But I need some things. I need to know if
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: they comply with the American Disabilities Act, because I really
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: would prefer to just get a little one of them
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: carts with a basket in the front and put a
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: cooler in the front, and then I'm going to need
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: a couple bodyguards too, because I've been told that I'm opinionated,
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: and I was kind of hoping you could just check
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: that out and get back to me on that.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm scrolling time. I'm just I'm scrolling through the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through the settlement agreement, and I don't see
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: anything where it talks about compliance with the ADA, So
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe that needs to be went in there.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe you need to do more research because
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: I'm not coming back up there until it gets a
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: lot warmer, you know. I mean I'm not you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: I may be, I may be easy, but I'm not cheap.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The you know, look, the demonstrators, the protesters, they're
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: they're pretty dedicated as long as it's you know, the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: temperature is in the seventies, eighties, When you when you
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: get into the twenties like we have now, they're they're
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: not it's dedication sort of protest. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: I can send bad vibes to whoever you want me
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: to if the money is right. So you know, that's
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: that's my protest. Other than that, stay warm, old Bud.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Jeff, Well do what we can. Brother, appreciate the phone
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: call on that. So there you go. And uh, it's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: almost a whole hour talking about the settlement. But good
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: work by the Inquirer breaking all this down. Let me
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: see if I missed anything else. I think pretty much
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: gone on all of this. Yeah. The ordinances, the ordinance
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to approve the settlement will go before the City's Public
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Safety and Governance Committee on December ninth, that is today,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Sometimes when they have the committee
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: meetings down there, people can go and they can speak
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: before the committee's I don't know if that is going
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to happened today with this committee, but it certainly will
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: be interesting if some folks go down there and maybe
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: make their voices heard on whether or not this settlement
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: should be approved. I'm sure there's plenty of people out
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: there who think the settlement is a great idea. The
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the the resolution that they're going to pass, you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it talks about how, you know, this is the best
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: way forward, and you know, all the parties involved have
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: decided that, you know, we'll play this nominal sum which
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: we have to issue debt for. And Smitherman was talking
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: about that the other day and that does not sit
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: well with him. None of this sits well with and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it really it shouldn't sit well with anyone. Five forty
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: six stand Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five krc DE
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: talks to the Claremont County Veterans Service Commission. Wishes all
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: veterans in their families a joyous holiday season. In twenty
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: twenty five weeks of station Man Joe Strecker's rocking out
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: this morning, Little Detroit rock City. Good stuff right there,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I remember the un Maybe I tell this maybe I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: tell this story every time you play this song. But
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: this one, that was the first song that I ever
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: heard by Kiss. Buddy of mine who lived down the street,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: had just got a brand new Gto convertible, and I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: mean that it was. Man, that was a very slick,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a very cool looking car. And I think I was
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know, thirteen, maybe fourteen at the time, and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: he says, oh, man, let's take it out for a ride.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So he put the convertible down and he says, you
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: ever heard a Kiss? I said no, and he slapped
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that eight track in there and this song came on.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I have never heard anything like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that before. Good stuff, Detroit Rock City. What a great song. Oh,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Alex Stravinsky heard my side. I joonases sound like I'm
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: saying that guy's name, right, Travinsky. Yeah, the he was
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: in court yesterday and he, of course he of the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the brawl that happened in downtown Cincinnati. See, that was
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: one of the things I was talking about the other
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: See when when this happened, When this beatdown happened on
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the streets of Cincinnati, what was it Back in July
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: we were in Cincinnati was on the national news every morning,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: every night, every day for days weeks on it. I
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: remember doing radio shows and not in this studio because
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: there's TVs. Don't work in this studio. Although there's five
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: beautiful big screen TVs in here, not on one of
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: them shows anything that you can watch on TV. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in any case, I was inside the other studio down
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the hall, and I'm doing the radio show. And that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: was a great topic of discussion, the beatdown in Cincinnati.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how many times I've got
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Fox News on there on one I got CNN on
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the other one, and up there's the video again. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: mean it played again and again and again. And so
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati made the national news for that. But the one
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: thing we didn't make the national news for was what
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the George Floyd ryants. And why didn't we make the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: national news because we shut it down. The professionals who
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: were in charge of the city back then said, nah,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: bah bah nah, we are not going to let this happen.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: We are shutting it down. And if the mayor had
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to step up and put a curfew in place, that
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: was it used the tools at his disposal to shut
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: it down, and God blessed John Cranley for what he did.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: And this this notion that we are going to pay
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: these people eight million dollars just it. It's a slap
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in the face. But Travinsky, who's accused of slapping another
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: person during the downtown brawl, that trial has been postponed
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: now to January twelfth due to the introduction of what
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: defense attorney Douglas Brandon called a surprise witness by the prosecution.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: So I don't know that much, and this article doesn't
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: really get into who the surprise witness might be, but
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine, Joe. We've seen pretty much a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: lot of the video that's associated with that. We saw
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the video that came from the street camp. And that's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the thing. There are cameras all over downtown Cincinnati. They
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: did most just about every square block of downtown Cincinnati
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: is monitored or can be monitored by the command center
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: where they've got they've got the I don't know what
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: they call it, but it's the riot respond not the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: riot response, but they've got the response team watching all that. So, yeah,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: we knew the videos were out there, but I think
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: we've pretty much seen all the video on this, but
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the surprise witness has come up, so we'll that trial
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: is going to be delayed till January, so we don't
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: get to have fun with that until January, so we'll
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: see what happens. I got to get to a break
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: news coming up top of the hour, and then we
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: will carry on until nine. This morning, Dan Carroll in
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV Talk station.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Today's top headlines coming up.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: At the CD talk station six o five on this
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Good morning, just getting up, got your radio
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: tune of fifty five KRCV Talk station. I'm Dan Carroll,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas taking the day off. Brian back tomorrow, Joe,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Brian is back tomorrow, So only want one more day
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: without Brian Thomas, and always my pleasure to sit in.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Strecker is the executive producer running the big board
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: there in the command center. So when you call in,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: make sure you say hello to Joe and he might
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: he might let you on the air. The twenty twenty
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: five Reagan National Defense Survey is out, a national public
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: opinion poll that measures how we the American people understand
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: key defense and national security issues and always some interesting
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: findings in this as if you need a survey to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: tell you the obvious. The mood of the country, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Alan Pfeiffer wrote a piece on this an American thinker.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: The mood of the country remained circumspect, with only thirty
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: eight percent of Americans believing that we are on the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: right track versus fifty eight percent who feel that we
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: are on the wrong track. This is buttressed by the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: fact that about fifty percent believe our foreign policy and
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: national defense are effective. Seventy five percent don't think that
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: we're on the right track with our economy the single
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: highest number of interests. Other areas are concerned for most
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: people include healthcare, political polarization, border and crime. Seventy seven
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: percent of US have confidence in the military. Forty four
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: percent have confidence in President Trump. I think these numbers,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are the numbers from the survey. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: would think that that more people right now would believe
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that the country is on the right track. Thirty eight
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: seems like a little bit of a low number to me,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and fifty eight percent think we're on the wrong track. Now,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: there's always going to be, you know, be people who
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: hate Trump that will say the country is on the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: wrong track no matter what. So there's always going to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: be a baseline number there. But do you does fifty
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: eight percent of this audience. I feel like the country
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: is on the wrong track right now. I don't know, Bobby,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: what's going on this morning? Dan?
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: A special thank you can't express our true feelings or
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: appreciation you carrying that torture freedom every day.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Hey, brother, we do what we can. We do what
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: we can we and we appreciate, we appreciate you and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: those like you who are such loyal listeners to this program.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: I tell you what, Porkopolis, They just keep feeding the pig.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Don't they. I I the more I read about this settlement,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the more I just don't know. How do you how
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: do you draw uh any other conclusion other than we
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: are inviting more of this in the future. How do
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you do that?
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: I see it's greed and gratuities. I mean, they've got
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: to they've gott to spread the money around and take the.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Attention all things. You know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: It's my opinion, and I think we've discussed it. Take
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: it to court. Take it to court, That's what I say.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Decide, Take it to court. Please stand up, spend, spend
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a couple of million dollars taking it to court. I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: think I think that a jury would look at this
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and say, no, we are not, we are not. These
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: people are not in line because they had to spend
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the night waiting to get processed into the justice center.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And then these claims about not having access to to
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: bathrooms or not having a blanky, or not getting a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: bottle of water. I think those claims can be disputed
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: It was all legal and it's nothing now but appeasement
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: that we need to take it to court. Go ahead
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: and don't rubber stamp it. But yeah, we know what
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: the counts was going to do. Rubber stamp it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: What what does history say about appeasement?
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: That's exactly correct it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Cisco will come back and bites you in the backside.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Bobby, thanks for the phone call, brother, Thank you. You
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: have the great work man.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: I like that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I love that guy. Let's see, seventy seven percent of
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: us have confidence in the military, forty four percent in
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: President Trump, thirty percent have confidence in Congress. Joe, I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: think that number is a little bit high. Do you
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: think thirty percent of the American people have great confidence
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: in Congress, Joseph is three times, do you h, I'm
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: not yeah, I'm not sure if that that number is accurate.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Let's see, uh, forty seven percent have confidence in our
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I would say that is that seems about right.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Probably should be a little bit lower. Here's a number
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that's way off. Listen to this, Joe, forty two percent
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: of the American people in the Reagant National Defense Survey,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: forty two percent have confidence in the news media. That
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: number is way too high. I'm looking. I don't see
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a dicimale point. Yeah, four point two percent would be
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think it would be more accurate. I'm going to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: have to look at the methodology on this. Forty forty
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: two percent that that number, if that number is accurate,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that is absolutely stunning that forty two percent of the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: American people. Because I know I've talked about a different surveys,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: it be done. I talked to Curtis Hawk from NewsBusters
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: all the time, and there is no way that forty
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: two percent of the American people have confidence in our
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: news media. I just I don't know how that's true.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Seventy one percent of Americans have confidence in our police,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So I think That is a good number. I wish
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: that number was a little bit higher. Eighty one percent
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: of the American people believe that our military will keep
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: us safe. That's a pretty good number. I think that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: could be a little bit higher. Seventy eight percent think
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that we can win a foreign war. I certainly hope
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: we don't have a foreign war, but the vast majority
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: of American people think that we can win a war.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: When's the last time we won a war. The American
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: public is less concerned about DEI in the military. Only
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: twenty five percent believe it is a significant problem. Well,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: DEI in the military, that day has come and gone,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and it's it's about time. So it will no longer
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: be an issue under the auspices of Pete hag Seth
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and Donald Trump. So DEI in the military, that's a
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that soon that will not even be a subject for discussion.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: But then, of course, if you get a Gavin Newsom
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and I saw was it yesterday? I guess it was
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: yesterday that I get.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: The polling, of course, is being done for twenty twenty
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: eight and right now Gavin Newsom is the considered to
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: be the front runner on the Democrat side. Of things.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, how how sick is that? How disgusting is that.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Let's see, say elimination of DEI from the military is
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a good idea. Well, there's a lot of uninformed people
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: out there. One you know, I'll say the number should
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: be closer to one hundred percent. That's a elimination of
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: DEI from the military is a good thing of American
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: support restoring the warrior ethos to our military, which I
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: know is one of the main topics that Pete Hegseth
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: talks about all the time, restoring that warrior ethos. Sixty
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: one percent agree with sending troops to the border to
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: deter illegal immigration, fifty support sending the guard to crime
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: ridden cities to store order in safety. That is a
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that that is a little bit of a gray area
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: for me. I have asked different people that I've talked to,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with varying degrees of legal expertise, how solid of constitutional
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: footing that Trump is on when he does that, and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: those opinions very greatly so. Not sure I'm part of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that fifty five percent six fifteen Dan Carroll and for
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas fifty five KRC the talk station from the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Demented mind of Evan Ratliffe, Talk Station six twenty. On
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning, fifty five KRC the talk station five
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: eighty two three talk ALKA, which comes out to a
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: two five five talking about the results of the most
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: recent Reagan survey, the Reagan National Defense Survey. They call
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it Reagan National Defense Survey. And let's see where do
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: we leave off that fifty five percent support sending the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Guard to crime ridden areas to restore order in safety.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's been working though in the city's where
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it's been tried. I think the man the crime rate
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: in Chicago, the murder rate has come way down. I
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: remember when the debate was going on a week or
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: so ago about DC, after the Guard troops got shot there.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: The one was killed, the other one still fighting for
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: his life. People were talking about people who who work
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: in DC talk about walking around the city all the time.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: What a difference that it has made for for them
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to have those Guard members in uniform standing on the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: street corners. So overall, I think it has been a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: pretty good thing. Again, the constitutionality of that needs to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: be adhered to. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Sixty
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: two of US are in favor of continuing to strike
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: drug traffickers in South America and the Caribbean. Blow those
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: boats out of the water. There's a big debate now
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: about whether to release the video of the strike. That
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: it was in question right with the survivors, whether or
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: not they were according to a bunch of Democrats who
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: looked at the video, oh, they were signaling for help.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: They were, Oh, we're we're in the water. We need
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: waving at the own to come rescue us. Now the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Tom Cotton Trump heg Seth says, no, they were still
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: in the fight. They were trying to get back on
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: what was left of their vessel, radio other boats in
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the area radio for help. Continue to on with their mission.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: So the next strike occurred, and there's some debate now
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: about whether or not that I release let it out there.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on. Joe, how do you feel
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: about that? Should we let that video out? Let it out,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: put it out there. Trump said the other day he'll
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: leave it up to Hegseth about whether or not he
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: puts it out there. So I'm fine with that. Put
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it out there and let the chips fall with. I mean,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that's all that stuff. Thank god. I'm so glad we're
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: not talking about the Epstein stuff anymore. When it comes
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to the Epstein stuff, the people who are guilty, the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: people who who abuse these girls, they need to be
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: brought to justice. They need to be held accountable for
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: their actions. I don't care who they are. And if
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the paperwork that they have, the files, the black books, whatever,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the video, if there's videos, if that puts the finger
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: on someone guilty as committing these crimes, then let justice
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: take a course. Why is that so difficult? So let
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: let the videos come out and let's just see what
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the heck is going on. What else do we have?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Let's see the drug traffickers. There we go. Fifty fifty
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: percent of the American people reject trans people in the military.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I think that number ought to be a little bit higher.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: And there was so much, so much information coming out
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: on this though. The one thing that I think more
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: than anything else when you talk about individuals who want
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to transition while they're in the military, was the piece
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that I read that if if you're in the you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: with the army, for example, and you are transitioning and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you are beginning your transition process, and you are you know,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: maybe you've had your first surgery. Let's say your unit
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: gets called up to active duty and you have to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: your unit was going to be in harm's way. Well,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: if you're in the beginning of your trans your trans process,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: then you don't have to go. No, you look, you're
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: in a delicate state having the surgery, becoming a a
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: man to a woman or a woman to a man. No,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you're you're, you're, you're. Fellow soldiers get to go it
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: out and be at harms way, but you sit back.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: You just you rest and recuperate. Catch up with them
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: in about a year. I remember when I read that,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I was just incensed by that. That's just one of
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the policies that needed to be done away with. Six
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: twenty five. We got to get to a break. Dan
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Carroll for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRCV Talk Stations,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Prestige Interiors has been proving the way five KRC the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Talk Station fifty five KRC the Talk Station five one, three, seven,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: four nine, fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: talk taking a look at the results of the Reagan
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: National Defense survey and all kinds of good stuff in here.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of conversation starters. I like this piece a lot.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see, let's see fifty rejecting trans people
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in the military. We talked, We touched on that one.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Sixty two percent of Americans believe that standards for men
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: and women should be equal and not reduced for the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: primary purpose of advancing women. Sixty two percent. I think
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: that number ought to be a little bit higher. No,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: the standards should not be reduced. If you're a woman,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and and can we Joe, have we advanced the state
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: yet to where we can we can all agree, we
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: can stipulate that men and women are different. Have have
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: we advanced that far yet in our conversation? You sound
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: a little iffy on that. Yeah, Now for the purposes
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of my conversation, Yes, men and women are different. Men
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: and women are not the same. You want to argue
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: with me on that, you're more than welcome to call it.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: But no, the standards for men and women should not
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: be changed or reduced just for the primary purpose of
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: women being able to advance in the military. And I
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: don't really know how much of advancing in the military
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is based on a woman being able to perform physically
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the same as a man. Let's see, fifty nine percent
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: of us would encourage someone we love or care about
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: to join the military. I know I have done it
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: in my life. I have encouraged others to join the military.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I joined the military myself when I was younger. All
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: these important metrics are noticeably higher since President Trump was elected.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: So I think some of those numbers could be a
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: lot higher, especially the right track wrong track. I would
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: think that way more than thirty eight percent of Americans
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: believe that we're on the right track. The Mega movement
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: preaches America first and no foreign entanglements. Our president has
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: threaded a needle on this and is using different levers
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: of power that previous leaders, using the levers of power
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: more than previous leaders to accomplish were the international goals.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: But there's a limit to how hands off we can
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: be while protecting our national interest. Yeah. So I would
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: think most of us agree that. And this whole idea
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: that Trump is an isolationist I think has been completely
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: wrong from the very beginning. I think, really all you
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: have to do is look at his policies, look at
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: how he's negotiated the end to different conflicts around the globe.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: That is, to my way of thinking, the exact opposite
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: of being a globalist. I'm sorry, the exact opposite of
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: being an isolationist. But I think we're engaging with And
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I had a guest on the radio show I was
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: doing yesterday that the Trump doctrine is based on finding
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: peace because peace is good for business. Trump is a businessman.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: He is a business person, and he knows that war
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: is bad for business. Now, there are some sectors of
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the economy the war is obviously good for, But in
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: a larger sense, by and large, peace and prosperity go together,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: and there can be far more prosperity when you are
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: conducting peace or conducting business under peaceful circumstances, then and
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: then circumstances that are not peaceful. I think that is
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: a basic philosophy of Trump, and I think it really
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: has a lot to do with what the Trump doctrine
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: is when it comes to dealing with other countries because
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: every piece and the guest I had on yesterday was
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: really terrific, and we were talking about every piece negotiation
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that Trump has inserted himself into. There is always an
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: economic component, and the economic component is really the main
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: component of these different peace agreements. And Trump has gone
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: in and found ways to craft win win situations for
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: all the parties involved. Get a little win for the
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: United States, get a little win for whatever nation that
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: he is dealing with on both sides of the conflict.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where the real genie is. And then,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: of course, Joe, how often do you guys talk about
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the view on this show? I mean, what what a
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: bunch of idiots they are, Sonny Houston and look, I
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: gotta get to a break. I'll talk about this on
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the other side. But hey, I was I normally don't
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: talk about the view, but Sonny Hostin is such an
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: just an imbeciling idiot. And then she was ranting yesterday
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: about Trump and the Nobel Peace Prize. Mean, what a
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: moron she is. And all, I mean, all this stuff
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: about the you know, from the Reagan National Defense Survey
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: is just jogging all this stuff in my mind. It's great.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Five point three, five hundred MIC is on the line.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: We'll get to this call on the other side of this.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five KRCD Talk station. Hey,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: good morning. You're heading the airport right.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for checking. I like the car.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: He talked station a great rock and Roll continues to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: roll out. Joe Strucker getting it done, Dan Carroll and
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas. This morning, fifty five k r C
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the talk station talking about the takeaways from the twenty
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: twenty five National Defense Survey, the Reagan National Defense Survey,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: annual public opinion poll that measures America's feelings about key
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: defense and national security issues and the whole The notion
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of foreign entanglements came up. And I saw a clip
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: yesterday from The View, and the View is typically and look,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I know the View is out there almost on a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: daily basis. These women on the View are saying something
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: so idiotic, so stupid that it it turns out to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: be jaw dropping. I decided a long time ago that
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I need to challenge myself more than that I could.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I could play a clip of the View almost every
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: single day and just say, listen to how stupid this this?
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: But what's the challenge in that? There's really not a
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: challenge in that, because they do it every single day.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And so I saw a clip yesterday of Sonny hostin
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and they were talking about Trump. They got on the
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: subject of Trump, and he did the the drawing for
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: the soccer tournament, the World I guess the World Cup,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: soccer tournament it's coming to America. And Joe, are you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: into that at all? The FIFA the World Cup. So
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the FIFA, the the the organization that uh I you know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: sponsors the World Cup or it happens under their under
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: their auspices, they created a World Peace Prize and they
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: gave it to Trump for helping to bring peace around
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the world. And so Sonny Hostin was belittling this, talking
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: about how, of course the great Barack Hussein Obama got
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: a Nobel Peace Prize, but Trump, the chump, only got
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: this little dinky piece prize from FISA or from FIFA.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: And then she goes on to say about how I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: feel he's not worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize because
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you know, he really just really hasn't you know when
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: it comes to peace, just really hasn't done anything. Well.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I would ask Sonny host In this and did did
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Barack Houssein Obama do anything worthy or equal to the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Abraham Accords, the most significant diplomatic achievement normalizing relations between
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Israel and the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco, Saudi Arabia,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: the Abraham Acquad Did Barrack Houssein ever do anything along
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: those lines? And then the list of the peace agreements
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: and ceasefire agreements that Trump has worked on Armenia and Azerbaijan.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: They actually started doing this back in October of twenty twenty.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: More formal agreement was reached in August of twenty five
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Democrat Republic of the Congo and Rwanda Peace Agreement there
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: bringing an end to a long running conflict, focusing on
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: regional stability and access to critical minerals. So there's the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: economic part, the economic development prosperity part of that agreement.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Indian Pakistan seasfire ending a escalation intensions between these two
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: nuclear powers. Cambodia and Thailand ceasefire agreement July of twenty
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: twenty five. This followed a few days of deadly border clashes.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Trump threatened to stall some trade deals that were in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the works. Said, look, you know, you guys want to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: have trade, you want to have prosperity, you want to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: have the stuff going on. Stop fighting, And they did.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Israel and Iran ceasefire. Twelve day war between Israel and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Iran ended in June of twenty twenty five. Sonny Austin
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: though she knows, she knows that Trump is not worthy
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of a Nobel Peace Prize, and now all her viewers
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: on the view know that as well. Mike, what's going
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: on this morning?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, I've thought about the transgenders in the military. Yeah,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: you're talking about transitioning while they're there. First of all,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: American tax dollars should be paying for that.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: And also it's a non essential voluntary surgery. You can
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: do that when you get out.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: Because somebody who wanted to get them, say some upper
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: general thought he wanted to get a facelift, he'd have
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: to pay for that out of his own pocket. They're
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 8: not gonna and said he was. He's like, I'm getting
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: held up back out there on the battlefield. They wouldn't
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: let him.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, Well, I can't. I can't tell you how many
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: videos I saw of individuals in uniform who, once Trump
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: got elected, were all bent out of shape because they
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: knew that he was going to end all this nonsense
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: with the people transitioning in the military, and they and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: they and they've flat outset the reason they joined the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: military was so they could get their transition shows transition
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I can't even say it transition surgery. Try saying that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: three times fans that But there were there, there were
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: far too many people who were more concerned about that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: than doing the job that they are required to do
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: when they're in uniform. So Pete Hesath is right to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: look at all that and say we don't need that
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff in the military. Get it out of there.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Six forty six, Dan Carrell for Brian Thomas, fifty five
• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: at the Chimney careten fifty five KRC the Talk Station,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Dan Carroll and for Brian Thomas, Joe Struker rolling out
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: all his favorite hits for the Bumper music this morning.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I love it, long Ago Classics, eazy Top. We'll let
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: it get to that good part here in a second.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Gotta love this. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: five hundred. That's the number to call if you want
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: to get on board. Talking about the the Reagan National
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Defense Survey. Uh, they are all kinds of interesting findings
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: in all kinds let's see two thirds. Sixty five percent
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: of Americans believe we should have strict limits on advanced
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: AI chip sales to China. AI chip sales to China.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Isn't China making their own AI chips? I would think
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: they are. Why do we need to sell chips to China?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's a good thing. But when
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: it comes to selling stuff to China or giving anything
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: in China, you're not giving I was selling? Uh Nearly
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: nine in ten, eighty eight percent of Americans believe the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: United States needs greater manufacturing capacity and when especially when
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: it comes to ship building, which is a good idea
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: better ship building. China is just smoking us when it
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: comes to building ships that see a strong majority. Sixty
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: two percent want Ukraine to prevail and it's war with Russia.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Sixty four percent support sending US weapons. That is up
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: nine points from last year with bipartisan gains. Fifty nine
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: percent of Republicans seventy five percent of Democrats. Sixty two
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: percent support using military force against suspected drug traffickers. I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: think I touched on that one already. NATO favorability has
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: reached its highest level ever sixty eight percent have strong
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: bipartisan support for Article five commitments, and of course that
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: means if a NATO ally is attacked, then we all respond.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: All the NATO allies are obligated to respond to that.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: What else do we have? What else do we have?
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Believe that the military should be able to fight two
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: peer enemies simultaneously. We've not had that capability for a
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: generation or for a generation, which might lead them to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: think that our leadership has been derelict in its primary
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: mission of protecting America. Sixty eight percent believe that we
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: are at risk and support the Golden Dome concept recently
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: unveiled by President Trump. So a lot of interesting stuff.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: And then this goes on for about another four or
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: five paragraphs, this piece, with all the all the findings
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: in here. Uh, let's see top threat to America. Let's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: see China. Is that forty eight rush is a twenty
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: six per tent as the top threats to the country.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Two percent, though, thought Israel was the top threat to America.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I think some of those people call this radio station
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: on a regular base. And three percent say that we
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: are our own worst threat. And there are some people
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: who have a pretty good finger on the way things
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: are moving or tend to move, yeah, or our own
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, we are our own worst threat.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:07:30
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• 1:07:32
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• 1:07:34
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• 1:07:37
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• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: to Andrew Pappis and get him to get up early
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. Papas who is currently convalescing from a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: serious illness. You don't have you don't have the wu hon,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Do you.
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  Speaker 2: Explain something to Dan Carroll If this was if you
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: were suffering the ailment that I am suffering, it would
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: be you'd be laying in a hospital with so many
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: tubes in you they wouldn't be able to see you. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So let's have a little bit of compassion for those
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: of us that are not only suffering but are still
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  Speaker 2: getting up every day and contributing to society.
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  Speaker 5: Two meetings.
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  Speaker 1: It's fantastic. That is great. Let me ask you have
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  Speaker 1: a little hypothetical question for you.
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  Speaker 5: I love your hypotheticals.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a going to be a meeting today
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  Speaker 1: of a committee in Cincinnati City Hall.
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  Speaker 2: It is the.
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  Speaker 1: Public Safety and Governance Committee. And if you Andrew Pappas
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  Speaker 1: were a member of said committee, it never happened. And
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: the ordinate I know it would never happen. That's why
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: it's hypothetical. And an ordinance came before you that was
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: a settlement of eight point one million dollars and you said, look,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: we need you to sign off on this because we
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: want to pay two million dollars to the lawyers and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy nine plaintiffs upwards of ten thousand
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: dollars apiece over because they were they were rioting and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: disobeying curfew orders and disobeying police on the streets of
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati in the summer of the spring of twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Would you go along with in and fix your signature
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  Speaker 1: to such an ordinance?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad you asked that question. First of all,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: to answer your questions is simply, there's no way in
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: hell I would ever sign that agreement, and nor should
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: anyone that has taken the oath to protect public sign
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  Speaker 2: that oath. Okay, But secondly, I have I spoke to
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  Speaker 2: a police officer yesterday and I posted about this on Facebook,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know that I would be speaking to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: a Cincinnati police officer yesterday, And I said, let me
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: ask you a question, because this officer was in the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: meeting where this settlement was announced and he got to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: ask some questions about it.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: How about that and how about.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: That breaking news? And so.
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  Speaker 2: I said, how does it make you feel as a
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  Speaker 2: police officer that city the city passes an ordinance asks
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: you to enforce it, and literally every encounter that you
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: have with the public of this nature is risks your
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: life because you never know how anything's going to go.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, a traffic stuff, an officer risks their lives
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: because you don't know how it's going to go. And
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: I said, how does it make you feel? He said,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: it's not only is it infuriating. On one hand, you're
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: just consumed.
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  Speaker 5: With how can this happen?
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Because the very people that we were asked to keep
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: the city safe from burning. If you remember the Summer
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: of Love of twenty twenty protests, you remember seeing a
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: reporter standing in front of a building going up like
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: an inferno, and he's telling you don't pay attention to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: the flames behind him. A lot of these people are peaceful. Okay, great,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: that's fantastic. A lot of them aren't mostly peaceful yet.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Yet are our men and women in law enforcement put
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: their lives on the line to protect businesses, protect residents, residences,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: to protect the residence of Cincinnati from the same absolute
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: carnage we saw in other cities.
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  Speaker 5: And what did they get for it?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: They got kicked in the teeth. And you know what
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: he said to me, He said, let me tell you
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: what that does to me. First of all, I'm marking
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  Speaker 2: the clock when i'm when my time is up, I'm
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: out of here, says I am out of here. I'm
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: not working for this any longer. But he's not going
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: to walk away from his pension right now. That would
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: be you know, that'd be foolish on his part. Secondly,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: because human, they you know human, we have to keep
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: our families. You know, it's do it right by our
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: families first. Secondly, he said, and the next time that
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: they ask us to do something like this, that there's
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: you know, widespread civil unrest and they call the police
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: to come out and quell it, he said, We're not
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: going to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we'll show up. We're not arresting anybody. What's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: the point.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: What's the point.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: What is the point?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I suggested, I suggested earlier this morning that they
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: just armed police officer with giant sacks of cash and
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: pass out money, you know, maybe four or five hundred
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: bucks per protester and say you would you please go
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: on and come back tomorrow night. We'll have another four
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: or five hundred bucks for you and just go on.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: You cut out the middleman, and just the.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Middle man, which is this is the attorney. So you
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: saved the attorney.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Fees, justice furs money directly to individuals who want to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, disobey curfews and police orders and all the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: rest of it.
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  Speaker 5: Just now what he told me.
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  Speaker 2: What he told me also was this was the result
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: of the law department charging these people under a incorrect
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: either statute or whatever. And I don't speak legally.
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  Speaker 5: That's above my pay grade. I'm not you know me, well, Dan, I'm.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Not the smartest you know person in the room, and
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I like to people know that I'm not the smartest.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: But let me say this. I'll fool you, right. I
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: want you to underestimate me, which is great, But I
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: will tell you this if that's true, I want you
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: to understand the logic here. So the law department and
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: with the city, passes an ordinance and this and the
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: police enforce the ordinance, and then the law department makes
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: mistake and charges these these people that were arrested under
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: either the wrong statute or something of legally's nature. And
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the He mentioned something called M
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: one versus M four. I don't know what that means
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: because I'm not usually down at the Justice center, and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: forgive me, I'm not. I just don't hang out there,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: nor am I called down there.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: But I will tell you this, if that's true.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Complete the circle so the law all this stems apparently
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: from the law departments ineptness and incompetence. So they made
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: the mistake, and now the city is going to turn around.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: They're going to reward the very people that were causing
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: the crime because of a law department's mistake. And you know,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: a class action lawsuit brought about. And you know, I'm
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. Given everything we just had, what was
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: it two nights ago, I thought that crime was supposed
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: to slow down in the city. From what I've heard,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: there were more shootings, there was a couple of street takeovers,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: and it was cold outside, which I thought that.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: Wasn't supposed to happen.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: But we have a problem in the city of Cincinnati,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: and all something like this does, in my very humble opinion,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: is it exacerbates the situation because the criminals, I mean,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: imagine being a criminal.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: You're laughing, you are laughing. What are they gonna do
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: arrest us or pay us?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: How does any reasonable person reach any other conclusion than
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: we are inviting more of this in the future. You know,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: the Inquirer has done a deep dive on this, and
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: they assure us in the settlement that if you were
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: a person charged with any accompanying felony or offense of
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: violence or property damage, then you're not part of this settlement.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that for one second that individuals who
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: were observed by police engaging in property violence or damage,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: or knocking planners over, breaking windows, engaging in maybe some theft.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Do you believe for one minute that those people aren't
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: going to get part of this payoff?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: No? Do you know?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It may say that in the settlement, but
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: these all these cases were dismissed. So it has the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: city gone in, Has the city law department gone in
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: and examined individual by individual and case by case to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: make sure that anyone who engaged in any violent activity
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: is not going to be part of this settlement. What
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: assurances do we have that that that's taken place?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: None? None? They you know, I the very same.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, this is this is ultimately what the voters have
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: voted for. I mean, let's be sure the voters, the
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: voter who don't care, the voters don't.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: What's eight million dollar. I don't live I'm like you,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't live in the city. I don't I don't
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: vote a bit, but I don't want to see things
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: like this happened. I don't want I don't want the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati to be on national Look, we were
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: on national television plenty when we had the beatdown that
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: took place in the streets of Cincinnati. You know what
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: we did, you know when we didn't make national television
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: is when the George Soros sponsored UH agitators came to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: our city and and our police force, our law enforcement,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Sheriffs, and the Cincinnati police shut them down.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: The mayor. The mayor took the proper steps, issued the
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: UH the the UH the ordinance to have the curfew,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: and we shut it down. And guess what we weren't
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: on national TV then, why Because we didn't have buildings
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: that were burning, we didn't have police cars that were overturned,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: we didn't have UH you know, the the complete street
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: takeovers like they had in other cities.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: No question.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: And you know, you just sit there, Imagine that you
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: owned a business downtown and I'm thinking of all the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: small business owners that are getting up this morning driving
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: to work downtown or somewhere within the city limits. Okay,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be downtown. The city encompasses a
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: lot of neighborhoods, and you sit there and you're struggling,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: and you're working, and your business is you know, owning
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: a small business, which is the backbone of America, is
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: a tough thing. And you sit there and see, you know,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: not only do you have to keep your business running
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: your customers safe, but you know, you see every day
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: your neighborhood and you see what's going on in the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: neighborhood that you're doing business. And and here the city
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: comes along and the great people that are a drain
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: on your neighborhood by being soaking up all the resources
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: and or causing problems, whether it's you know, petty crime
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: or major crime, whatever the case might be. You see
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: these people getting rewarded where and yet you get up
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: every day, go to work, pay your taxes.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: Where's your where's your.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Olive branch from the city of Cincinnati, I mean.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: Where's that?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Where's your thank you for thank you? Without you small
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: business owner, we wouldn't have places for the people in
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: this neighborhood to work, because like it or not, not
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: everybody works in a in a huge building Downtown. Most
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: of it is still still to a large degree, most
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: of Americans are employed by small business in this country.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: And this is a not only a kick in the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: teeth to the taxpayers, the law abiding taxpayers in Cincinnati.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Whether you live in Cincinnati or just outside Cincinnati, you
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: are affected by what happens in Cincinnati when and and
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: and you get up every day and go to work,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: and they're just they just you are taken for granted.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: And what they are doing is actually, I believe you know,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: paying the inmates that are now running the asylum.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: All right, Andrews, stay right there. We got to get
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: to a break, pay a couple of bills, and we'll
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: be right back with our buddy, Andrew Pappus on fifty
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: five kr CV talk stations since two thousand and eight,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: center of hopus K the talk station fifty five krc
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: DE talk station. Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas, continuing our
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: conversation with Andrew Pappas and Papas The The Inquirer did
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: a deep dive into how the settlement breaks down, and
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: here's here's my favorite part. For those who were detained
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: for a period of more than five hours in association
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: with their arrest, they could be eligible up for for
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: up to another two thousand dollars. So I talked about
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: this earlier this morning, and and my math was an air.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I said that comes out to two hundred dollars an hour.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong about that. That's four hundred dollars an hour.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Four hundred dollars an hour be a protested pace, pretty good.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: The eleven lead plaintiffs in the case receive an additional
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars for their role Andrew and representing their
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: fellow play us. Isn't that.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: It's outstanding.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: First of all, I don't blame you because I've heard
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: you utter many times the phrase math is hard.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Math is hard, unforgiving. I do not claim to be
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: a genius at math.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: But you know, you know it's funny because during the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: break I heard something that I thought it was very
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: apropos and I'll let you look at up really quick
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: to see what it means. But the point of the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: matter is is that I think counsel. I think counsel
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: and everyone affiliated with this decision should take a session
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: at the Lindener Center that advertises for mental health because it's.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Praisy should avail themselves with those services.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, they should have that.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: They should be listening to fifty five krs. And they
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: should call the sponsors that are advertisers on this program
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: because anyone that would anyone that would agree with this
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: just I mean, I just did. But does it surprise you?
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, does it
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: surprise you we had this city of Cincinnati continuing their
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: contract with Iris the virus, and we have we have
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: the mayor then running, you know, the mayor of Cincinnati
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: who apparently understands the phrase math is hard because he
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: can't make his car payment. And we all know that,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: you know, especially especially, let's be fair, especially in this
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: age of instant communication and apps on your phone and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: being able to see your banking records at any time
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, it's hard to remember if you've
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: paid your car roll. It's very very difficult, very hard.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: But you know, after all of this, what happens. They
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: get they get re elected eighty percent. I mean, so
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: you know you're gonna you're gonna go to.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: The squeaky wheel.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: You're going to go to the people that are causing
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: the problems, and you're gonna say.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: Hey, what can I do to make you just be cool.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: For a little while so I can get re elected.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: And that's who your basis.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Because the rest of the public is so fractured and
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: splinter it doesn't really matter. And they've got their heads down,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: going to work every day, living their lives, paying their bills,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: paying their car payments.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: Excuse me, mister mayor.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: And you know at the nothing there are no repercussions
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: for all these bad decisions.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: That's my point.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought Iris Rollie had carved out
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: a pretty good gig for her son when it was
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: learned that he was down there on Fountain Square, passed
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: in Fountain Square, but Government Square, passing out some informational
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: flyers to the tune of about fifty eight dollars an hour.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a pretty good gig. But if
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I can begin, you know, if I can be detained
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: by Cincinnati police and hang around the Hamilton County Justice
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Center or the Transit center underneath Fort Washington Way to
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: the tune of about four hundred bucks an hour, I
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: think I know which way I'm going to go.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I know some attorneys that don't make four hundred dollars
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: an hour.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good deal. So Kevin Aldrich, who is the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: opinion editor, We've only got about a minute here at
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: UH an engagement editor at the Inquiry took the mayor
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: to task for his story not really not really holding
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: water when it comes to this story, does does does
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: aftab Purval need to come correct on this? Does he
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: need to just own just own whatever happened with the
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: repossessions and say look here's the deal and get this.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: He cannot allow this to drag on and keep and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: keep dogging him.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Here's what I have Tad Preval is gonna He's going
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: to ignore this. The press is going to get tired
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: of it. No one's going to remember it. It's just
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: going to fade away, and a tab Purval will be
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: propped up by the Democrats as the next uh you know,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: promised child of the Democrat party because he's a you know,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: he's he's he's a nice looking, clean cut young man
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: that they will run for the next higher office. He's never,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, he's never really had a he's never
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: really had an interest in serving in any office other
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  Speaker 2: than the next office he.
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  Speaker 5: Was going to.
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  Speaker 2: So look, I'm just.
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  Speaker 5: Telling you what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to do nothing, and let's Pharaoh good that
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  Speaker 2: one reporter at the inquiry chose to do a quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote deep dive and said, we wait, we have read
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  Speaker 2: the document here that says that's not true. You know,
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  Speaker 2: because the news media couldn't seem to hold him to
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  Speaker 2: task while he was sitting in front of the camera.
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  Speaker 2: They just said, oh, okay, that's a great excuse. You know,
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  Speaker 2: your auto pay got messed up for not one month,
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  Speaker 2: not two months, not three months. Plus all the emails
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  Speaker 2: you must have it, plus the text messages, plus the
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  Speaker 2: phone calls.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't even notice that hasn't had a car repossessed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it happens.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a boat. I think it's in today's
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: were all the politics. I think some sort of crime,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's embezzling billions of dollars in Minnesota or missing
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  Speaker 2: a few car payments. I mean that gives you street
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  Speaker 2: cred and that makes you you know, now, the base
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  Speaker 2: is like, you know what, he understands what I'm going through.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm going to support that man.
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  Speaker 2: Rather than saying, this is the guy that's involved.
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  Speaker 5: This is the guy that's.
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  Speaker 2: Handling our public trust and our public money, our public treasure,
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  Speaker 2: and he can't freaking make a car payment or no way,
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  Speaker 2: it's in his bank account. I'm sorry, no disrespect, listen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm empathetic as the next person, but public officials should
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  Speaker 2: be held to a higher standard.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well with that, Andrew, we'll let you go always.
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  Speaker 5: Dan Carroll, I'm cont yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: The government is called and they want to make a
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  Speaker 2: antibody out of my blood because I've conquered the man called.
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  Speaker 1: You're here. You're a real humanitarian, doing it for the better,
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  Speaker 1: the betterment.
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  Speaker 5: Of doing it for the people, Dan Carroll, the people.
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  Speaker 1: Papas have a great day on Facebook, man, all right,
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  Speaker 1: see you fifty five KRCD talk station. Ran Thomas taking
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  Speaker 1: a day off, Dan Carroll hanging around. I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank Papus for getting up early and checking in. Good
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  Speaker 1: stuff there. It was fun. It's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast. Joe A conversation with Pappas. He was
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: in pretty good form this morning. That's pretty good stuff
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  Speaker 1: right there. Oh, what else is going on? I just
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  Speaker 1: had this piece in front of me and what did
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  Speaker 1: I do with it? What did I do with it?
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  Speaker 1: Hold on? Here we go. Justice Department is on track
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  Speaker 1: to compel more than half the states in America to
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  Speaker 1: clean up their voter rolls and believe sloppiness that left
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  Speaker 1: dead people and non citizens in a position to vote
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  Speaker 1: in Democrat run states is intentional. The sloppiness of the
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  Speaker 1: elections in blue states is no accident. It's on purpose.
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  Speaker 1: It's a feature, not a bug, set Assistant Attorney General
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  Speaker 1: for Civil Rights har Meat Dylan. The goal is to
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  Speaker 1: cram as many people on there and to make voters
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  Speaker 1: who are not particularly engaged make it easy for someone
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  Speaker 1: else to help them fill out their ballot and return
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: it for them when they didn't care enough to do
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  Speaker 1: it themselves. What we can do at the federal government
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  Speaker 1: level is ensure our federal election laws are observed, and
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  Speaker 1: that includes each state's requirement to keep clean voter rolls.
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  Speaker 1: That is a fundamental basic and of course, as we
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  Speaker 1: have discussed for many years now, when the notion of
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  Speaker 1: cleaning up your voter rolls, getting dead people off the rolls,
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  Speaker 1: getting people who vote outside of where they're supposed to vote,
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  Speaker 1: whether they be in another state or another precinct or
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  Speaker 1: another district, that has been referred to as voter suppression
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  Speaker 1: and data is way past time that we got beyond
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  Speaker 1: that idiotic notion. Dylan spoke today after her division filed
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit against six Democrat run states Maryland, Delaware, Rhode Island,
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  Speaker 1: New Mexico, Washington, and Vermont, seeking to compel them to
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  Speaker 1: turn over their voter roles to be inspected by the
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  Speaker 1: DoD for abnormal abnormalities, outdated names, or non compliant names.
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  Speaker 1: She also struck a deal last week with North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: to force it to review over one hundred thousand voter
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  Speaker 1: names on rolls that were added without complying with state law. So,
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  Speaker 1: in a state like North Carolina, is one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: votes going to make a difference in in their elections
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  Speaker 1: and statewide elections? I would think so, Jim, how are
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  Speaker 1: you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 6: Good?
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Jim?
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  Speaker 3: Just like you like to know that out here in
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  Speaker 3: West Claremont, we like to just select it for the
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  Speaker 3: third time. A school board member that has two personal
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  Speaker 3: bankruptcies in the house, couldn't take her couldn't take care
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  Speaker 3: of his house. His house was taken from him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't it doesn't have a house. Where does
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  Speaker 1: where does he live? Does he live at a school
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  Speaker 1: board office? Or what?
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  Speaker 3: They'll probably enter bridge somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody shows up for the school board meeting. Yeah, that's dedication,
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  Speaker 1: that's dedication. That's that's the voters. Jim, I appreciate the call.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why you would look West Claremont school board.
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  Speaker 1: I have do not I don't live far away from there,
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  Speaker 1: but I do not have great familiarity with the the
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  Speaker 1: comings and goings of the West Claremont School Board. And
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  Speaker 1: if you elected someone who was homeless or has had
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  Speaker 1: judgments against their their property, maybe you need to rethink.
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  Speaker 5: Your vote there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, let's see. Harmey Dillon said the Department of Justice
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  Speaker 1: is checking records from all states and it has found
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  Speaker 1: some states, like California, are particularly loosey goosey. She said,
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  Speaker 1: the sort of problems are being uncovered in red and
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  Speaker 1: blue states alike. There are definitely people on the voter
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  Speaker 1: rolls of every state who don't belong there. They're dead,
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  Speaker 1: they moved, they're registered multiple times. There have been reports
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  Speaker 1: of instances of people, because of these insecure, double or
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  Speaker 1: extraneous registrations, going to the polls and having their vote
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  Speaker 1: recorded before they got there. How many times have we
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  Speaker 1: heard that story? Someone goes to the polls to go vote,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: and they look at them and they say, well, you've
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: already been here. How the heck can that happen? It happens,
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  Speaker 1: So at least the Justice Department is saying harmeat. Dylon
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  Speaker 1: is on it, and she is one of the very
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  Speaker 1: few that I have confidence in when you talk about
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  Speaker 1: a Yeah, she's not really a bureaucrat, but she's she's
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  Speaker 1: in the Justice Department. So hopefully that something will come
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  Speaker 1: in that It is seven thirty six. Got to get
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  Speaker 1: to a break, Dan Carroll for Ryan Thomas fifty five
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  Speaker 1: with Steve from USA Insulation. If I do only a
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  Speaker 1: lot of USA and Deep talk station fifty five krc
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  Speaker 1: DE talk station. I was looking at my phone during
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  Speaker 1: the break and I Joe, I got this message on
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  Speaker 1: my phone that says my software is going to update tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Will my phone work after that? I always asked Dave
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  Speaker 1: Hatter about that kind of stuff. I think last time
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  Speaker 1: that happened, he said, just let it happen, It'll be
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  Speaker 1: all right. So I hope, I hope that's a I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm never sure about it. I still ye, are you
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  Speaker 1: like me, do you send out emails and then you
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  Speaker 1: wonder if people got them. I sent them out. I
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  Speaker 1: sent them out to the different producers because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I worked different shifts, so you know, down the hall
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  Speaker 1: and I sent it. So I'm sending my emails to
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  Speaker 1: different producers. The first thing I do when I get
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  Speaker 1: in the building, did you get my email? Because I
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  Speaker 1: just I just don't don't have that sense that it
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  Speaker 1: got through. Yeah, but Joe Strecker is the same way.
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  Speaker 1: You're never a hundred when you hit that send button,
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  Speaker 1: even though you go. I always look at my scent file.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, it says I sent it, but I'm still
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  Speaker 1: just not one hundred percent sure. A widely cited twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four study, the Claim to forecast climate change and
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  Speaker 1: the Dire Economic impact globally, has been retracted happened last week,
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  Speaker 1: but the withdrawal comes far too late, as the paper
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  Speaker 1: had already shaped analysis by the United States the Congressional
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  Speaker 1: Budget Office. Influenced policy work at the World Bank had
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  Speaker 1: been adopted by the Network for the Greening and Financial System,
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  Speaker 1: a global coalition of central banks, as a key tool
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  Speaker 1: for stress testing financial portfolios. Under European climate risk rules.
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  Speaker 1: The study claim the global economic output would plunge by
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  Speaker 1: sixty two percent by twenty one hundred if high carbon
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  Speaker 1: emissions continued. Here's what the Wall Street Journal said. The
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  Speaker 1: study examined historical data from some sixteen hundred regions worldwide
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  Speaker 1: over the past four decades to project how change in
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  Speaker 1: temperature and precipitation would affect economic growth, including factors like
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  Speaker 1: agricultural yields, labor productivity, and infrastructure. However, after the study
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  Speaker 1: was published, other researchers found that economic data from one country, Uzbekistan,
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  Speaker 1: during a short time from nineteen ninety five to nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine, had skewed the results. Without Uzbekistan, the twenty
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  Speaker 1: one hundred damage forecast fell to twenty three percent, not
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  Speaker 1: sixty two percent. So Uzbekistan's data how much, how much
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  Speaker 1: industry and how much pollution causing industry is there in Uzbekistan?
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  Speaker 1: And their data over a four year time period nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety five to nineteen ninety nine had skewed the results
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  Speaker 1: that much. I mean, are they pumping out that much
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  Speaker 1: pollution in Uzbekistan? I would imagine that the manufacturing standards
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  Speaker 1: there are a far cry from what we have in
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  Speaker 1: the United States, Canada certainly maybe even China, for God's sake,
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  Speaker 1: who knows. But without Uzbekistan, the twenty one hundred damage
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  Speaker 1: forecast fell to twenty three percent, not sixty two percent.
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  Speaker 1: We broadly agree with the issues raised and have made
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  Speaker 1: corrections to the underlying economic data and to our methodology
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  Speaker 1: to address them. The studies author set the changes are
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  Speaker 1: too substantial for a correction of the original article in Nation,
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  Speaker 1: but significant damage has already been done with major financial
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  Speaker 1: institutions relying on the study to assess climate related risks.
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  Speaker 1: That's why whenever Rush Limbaugh used to talk about these
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  Speaker 1: environmental issues, I mean, he always called them kooks. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: imagine relying on and just blindly relying on a study
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  Speaker 1: like this. I've talked to so many people who are
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  Speaker 1: experts in this field, and all these predictions of doom
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  Speaker 1: and gloom as they relate to the environment all come
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  Speaker 1: from computer models. And if the information that goes into
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: the computer model is not good, then the result is
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  Speaker 1: going to be flawed, and in this case severely flawed,
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  Speaker 1: and in this case policy decisions affecting God knows how
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  Speaker 1: many billions of dollars have already been made based on
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: these flawed models. And this is not the first time
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  Speaker 1: that major studies or major predictions like this have been
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  Speaker 1: found to be inaccurate and wrong. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if this was done on purpose, but I know other ones.
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  Speaker 1: I know there have been other scientists who have come
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  Speaker 1: out and said that they were influenced to provide incorrect
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  Speaker 1: data for these studies so a desired result could be achieved.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole man, the whole environmental movement is
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  Speaker 1: an absolute scam. And now you've got another judge out
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  Speaker 1: there who is trying to shut down Trump when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to getting rid of windmills. And I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: about that. On the other side of this seven forty
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  Speaker 1: five Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRCV talk
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  Speaker 1: See the talk station Little sum against wine Shelter fifty
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  Speaker 1: I think I teased this before the last break. Another
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  Speaker 1: Clinton appointed judge, Another Clinton Well, it's another judge. This
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  Speaker 1: one happens to be appointed by Clinton. Then his latest
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: ruling issued Monday, a Clinton appointed judge decided that Trump
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  Speaker 1: has not explained himself enough and failed to justify his
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  Speaker 1: decision to put a halt to win project madness that
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  Speaker 1: has swept the country. A federal judge Monday ruled that
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's administration had failed to justify its decision to
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  Speaker 1: suspend issue issuing leases and permits for new WIN projects.
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  Speaker 1: US District Judge Patty Saris of Boston sided with a
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  Speaker 1: group a seven teen Democrat led states and the District
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  Speaker 1: of Columbia, and finding that agencies had failed to sufficiently
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  Speaker 1: explain why they had indefinitely paused all federal approval approvals
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  Speaker 1: of wind energy project projects. How About because they don't work?
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  Speaker 1: How About because the record shows that these things fail
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  Speaker 1: at an alarming rate, that they never produce the electricity
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  Speaker 1: that they are projected to produce, and they cannot be
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  Speaker 1: kept online for an appreciable amount of time. That the
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  Speaker 1: ability to recoup the cost of constructing these wind turbines,
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  Speaker 1: whether they be on the ocean or on land, that
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  Speaker 1: the ability to recoop those costs is almost non existent.
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  Speaker 1: It is an absolute crapshoot that the payoff that you
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  Speaker 1: get in terms of clean energy, when you talk about
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  Speaker 1: the carbon footprint necessary just to install one of these,
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  Speaker 1: the carbon footprint that's necessary to create the components and
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  Speaker 1: build the components of these giant wind turbines. But no,
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  Speaker 1: this federal judge Patty Sarus s A Ris of Boston,
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  Speaker 1: and I just scrolled up the article and the picture
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  Speaker 1: of this individual appeared. I mean, you talk about a
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  Speaker 1: way to ruin your day. On Trump's first day in office,
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  Speaker 1: he issued an executive order titled Temporary Withdrawal of all
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  Speaker 1: areas on the Outer Continental Shelf from offshore wind leasing
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  Speaker 1: and review of the Federal Government's lease and permitting practices
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  Speaker 1: for WIN Projects. That is a long title for an
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  Speaker 1: executive order, but apparently this judge knows better. The policy
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  Speaker 1: constitutes a change of course from decades of agencies issuing
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  Speaker 1: or denying permits related to WIN projects. She said, the
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  Speaker 1: agencies never provided a reason explaining the adoption or adopting
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  Speaker 1: for adopting the change. I mean, how how how dense
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  Speaker 1: does this judge need to be? There is ample of it,
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  Speaker 1: and look I can I can find I find it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. One project, just do just to a
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  Speaker 1: quick Google search. How many of these WIN projects have
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  Speaker 1: gone bankrupt? How many of these win projects at the
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  Speaker 1: at the notion that a government subsidy was no longer
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  Speaker 1: going to be available, whether they shut it down, because
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  Speaker 1: that is the only thing that keeps a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these projects going. I mean all the all the reports
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  Speaker 1: are out there about the the subsidies for the electric cars.
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  Speaker 1: The electric I've got an article on that somewhere, But
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  Speaker 1: I mean the electric car, I think I think sales
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  Speaker 1: were off sixty three percent last month. I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to find that. But no, when the subsidies dry up,
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  Speaker 1: when the government money goes away for wind projects, for
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: electric for solar panels, all that stuff, it doesn't exist anymore.
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  Speaker 1: These things need to be driven by market forces and
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  Speaker 1: the days of government propping up. Look, they found this
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  Speaker 1: out in Germany, they're finding us out in Australia. They
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  Speaker 1: found this out in all parts of the world where
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: they went all in on building building solar farms and
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  Speaker 1: building these wind these windmills and the wind turbines. They
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  Speaker 1: just don't work. There's no enomy of scale, the price
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  Speaker 1: is too high, and from a commercial standpoint, they're just
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  Speaker 1: not worth the expense. And you've got the giant, the
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  Speaker 1: giant solar towers out there in California that they're being
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  Speaker 1: shut down. The ones Joe you make, you know those
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  Speaker 1: ones with the You got the giant tower in the middle,
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  Speaker 1: it's got a giant mirror on it. Then you get
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  Speaker 1: all these these mirrors around and it directs all the
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  Speaker 1: sunlight into this into this giant tower, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: turbine in there creates it, and you've got water and
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: to create steam, and you make electricity. And when the
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  Speaker 1: birds fly through the rays of the sun being directed
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  Speaker 1: at these towers, they're incinerated instantly and they fall to
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  Speaker 1: the ground. They're called streamers because poof, they go up
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  Speaker 1: in a in a ball of flame, and then the
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  Speaker 1: smoke trails to the ground, and the locals out there
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  Speaker 1: call them streamers. Never mind that environmental damage seven fifty five.
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  Speaker 1: You got to get to a B. And then todds Endzer,
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  Speaker 1: the studio a guy that I I've talked to on
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• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: back and forth, but my first time meeting him in person,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: and it is the Citizen Watchdog Todd Zenzer and Todd
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  Speaker 1: is It's great to see you this morning.
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  Speaker 9: Great to see you, Dan.
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  Speaker 1: You got stuck in traffic on the way here, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know a lot of Chuck Ingram. I was
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 9: waiting to hear Chuck Ingram. I didn't hear him.
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  Speaker 1: But you made it here. Nonetheless, I did. Are you
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: quickly becoming one of the most hated men at City Hall?
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  Speaker 9: I think there are probably a few that would rather
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 9: not have me around.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what tell me for for those who don't know,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: and and and I've never met you in person before,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: but I know you what You were an inspector general? Yes,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: at at which which government agency?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 9: Two agencies. I was the Inspector General at Commerce Department
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 9: and that includes Noah, the Census Bureau. You know, I'm
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: gapping right now, but a collection of agencies. Patent and
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 9: Trademark Office was a big one. And then before that
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: I worked for the Transportation Inspector General for sixteen years.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 9: I left there to go to Commerce. I was the
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 9: deputy IG when I left Transportation IG.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So within the federal government are inspector generals? Are
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: you sort of frowned upon by the people that work
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: there or do they welcome what you do to to
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: audit and oversee and report on your finding.
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  Speaker 9: I think the rank and file appreciate the IG. I
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 9: don't think the management. Does you know? For example, if
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 9: I ever went into an office to meet you know,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 9: the management or whatever, people would yell out IG in
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  Speaker 9: the house.
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  Speaker 1: You know things like that, Yeah, like internal affairs of
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: the Police Department.
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  Speaker 9: Right exactly?
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: Wait, are you from Cincinnati.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 9: Originally I am up grew up in price when I
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 9: held Okay, all right.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: So that's why that's why you're you're back in or
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: I guess have you lived in Cincinnati the whole time? Uh?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 9: I was transferred from Cincinnati to New Haven, Connecticut, and
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 9: then to New York City and then to Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 9: And I finished up in Washington.
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  Speaker 1: But glad to be back in Cincinnati. Oh yeah, and
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: now you turn your attention to city hall, I have, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did that happen? Was that was that part of the
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: plan to come back and do that or did you
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: just sort of fall into that or someone said, hey,
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: look at this is interesting, take a look at this,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: or how did that happen?
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 9: When I came back, the big reason was to spend
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 9: some time with my mother and her final years. And
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 9: I wound up working for a inventor, helping him with
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 9: some litigation against the patent office. And it came to
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 9: be twenty twenty three all of a sudden, and I
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 9: hear that the city wants to sell this railroad. Yes, yeah,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 9: and that that triggered me.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: So that I got a little red flag went up there.
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  Speaker 9: Huh yes, and I started a political action committee called
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 9: Citizens for a Transparent Railroad Vote and did did whatever
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 9: I could to speak out against the sale. Unfortunately, we lost,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 9: and so that that really gave me a lot of
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 9: insight about how the city was operating. They were very
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 9: very dishonest about that deal, uh, and they sprung it
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 9: on the citizens that their first statements were that, well,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 9: we can't really get involved in you know, politics here,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 9: so we're not going to give you any information in
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  Speaker 9: the in the trust or the board. The railroad board
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  Speaker 9: said the same thing, and it's like, that's outrageous.
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  Speaker 6: This.
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  Speaker 9: The people need to know what's going on here before
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  Speaker 9: we vote on anything. So that's that's what triggered me.
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  Speaker 9: And part of me doing this is to try to
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 9: keep track of what they're doing with that money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean, I had note about the Cincinnati
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: owning that railroad for for a long time, and I
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: think most people in Cincinnati had no idea that the
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: city actually owned a railroad and derived a very nice
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: revenue stream from from that railroad. When when you look
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: at all the assurances that were made, Charli I remember
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: Charlie Lucan doing multiple interviews on this talking about Hey,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: all these guardrails are going to be up, but state
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: legislature got involved and all that. In the wake of
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: all that, are you satisfied with all the guardrails and
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: the you know that have been put in place to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that this money is being used in the
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: right way or doled out in the right way. No, No,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: you're shaking your head. None, not at all. Early on,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: what's your major issue with the with the deal the
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: way it's it's structured.
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  Speaker 9: Well, after we lost the vote, I did propose four
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: or five different things that the city should do. For example,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 9: they need to take what they spent on capital in
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty three and use that as the floor. We
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 9: do not go below that, all right, and then whatever
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 9: the railroad money is you put on top of that.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 9: So that's the only way to get ahead of the
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 9: spending that's required. But my big concern is that the
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 9: city doesn't have the capacity to spend all that extra
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 9: money in a timely way. And that's why they tell people, oh,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 9: this is going to take ten years, and they actually
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 9: give money back or they have unspent money. And just
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 9: this Monday in the budget committee, they went through what
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 9: they call the carryover they have a carryover, and they
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 9: have a capital sunset, and these are moneys that the
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 9: city has not been able to spend the way they
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 9: told the public they would be spending it, and so
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 9: they have these carryover dollars and then they just go
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 9: to town and spend it.
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  Speaker 1: So I see, I figured there was going to be
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: a way that this money was gonna was going to
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: be to get back into the general fund. But we
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: were we were assured that that there there was only
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: certain budget items that this could be spending. Largely, it's
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: it's infrastructure, infrastructure project, right right, right. And it seems
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: on one hand, it seems silly to limit yourself to
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing. On the other hand, it seems
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: sort of silly to let a third party have control
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: over that money. And uh and and look, I'm not
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: that I am advocating that I trust city council to
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: be in charge of such a large sum, right because
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: I never really thought that was a good idea.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 9: Right, So they set up this Rube Goldberg process about
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 9: what you can spend it on and and how the
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 9: money is distributed and things like that and what. When
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 9: this first passed, I was actually working with Jeff crammertine
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 9: on extra safeguards, and they actually put a motion forward,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 9: and I just remember in back and forth with mister Cramerdy,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 9: they proposed this motion to get the administration to report
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 9: back on these guardrail proposals, and I says, well, you
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 9: should put a deadline on it, thirty days, sixty days,
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 9: whatever it is. They didn't do that, so it took
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 9: them a year to address that. And the way they
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 9: addressed it is they buried it in another motion or
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 9: addressing another motion. And what I think they should do
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 9: is take They had a list they claimed to have
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 9: a list of four hundred million dollars of deferred maintenance.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 9: It was four hundred, it was five hundred. I only
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 9: saw a list of two hundred, and I saw a
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 9: list of two hundred and fifty million dollar estimate. Well,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 9: they should take that list and go down the list
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 9: one by one and fix those things that they said
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 9: had been deferred.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to me that would be a sensible approach.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, they're not doing that.
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  Speaker 1: For crying out loud, I could I could spend all
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: day asking you questions about the railroad project. I am
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: told that subsequently that in review of this deal, that
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: the purchase price is far less than what the value
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: of that railroad is.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, they never put it out to bid, you know,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 9: they just negotiated with Norfolk Southern. Yeah, so, I mean
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 9: Norfolk Southern had first DIBs if they wanted to sell it.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: And what what was it? What was the final number?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 9: Six point one one point six.
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  Speaker 1: One point six billion? Yeah, And that money doesn't all
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: come at one time. It's that that money's paid out
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: over a period of time, is that right?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 9: They get an annual they set an annual amount that
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 9: they're going to disperse to the city, and then that
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 9: is paid to the city and quarterly amounts. And what
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: I've what I've asked the Trust board to do is
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 9: track whether or not they've actually been able to spend
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 9: the money from quarter one before they give them money
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 9: for quarter two.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: But weren't we told that that the interest on that
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: money has already exceeded what their projection was going to be.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: And there for that's a wonderful thing, because now we
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: have even more money than we thought we were going
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: to have.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 9: Well, it has, the trust balance has gone up, but
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 9: so has inflation, and inflation is going to be here
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 9: for a long time, so you don't know what the
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 9: impact of inflation is on that balance. It probably buys
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 9: much much less than it did in twenty twenty three,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 9: to be honest.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: So I've had so many people ask me how are
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: things going with the railroad money? And when people ask
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: you that question, what's your general response to that?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 9: Well, it's the first year that they are actually spending
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 9: the money. The biggest chunk that I've seen is five
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 9: million going to the Western Hills Viydoc. I think it
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: was five or five point seven or something like that
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 9: going to the Western Hills Viydoc. But the rest of
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 9: the spending is spread out to rec centers and parks
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 9: and things like that. That's really not the way I
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 9: would do it, but that's the way they're doing it.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 9: And then you have members of city council proposing motions
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 9: to spend the money in different ways, Like they wanted
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 9: to set up a Rising fifteen railroad fund that would
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 9: take ten percent of the annual disbursement and put it
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 9: in another fund to be spent by Rising fifteen neighborhoods,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 9: and we commented on that, And then they also wanted
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 9: to use the railroad money to fix everybody sidewalks, which
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 9: would be great, but the sidewalks wasn't part of that
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 9: four hundred million dollar deferred maintenance. So what they would
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 9: be doing is taking on more deferred maintenance instead of
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 9: dealing with the ones that we had when we made
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 9: the deal.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, Todd zens, we got to take a break,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: and we will continue with some more recent activities, okay,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: that you've been looking at. Because it never ends, no,
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: it does. It does not end, So we'll continue with
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Todd's endser Citizen Watchdog on fifty five KRC, the talk stations.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: Zimmer Heating and Cooling has been insuring Cincinnati homes five KRC,
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• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: twenty one, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. Todd Zinzer is
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: here and you know him as Citizen Watchdog. You do
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: you do a regular segment with Brian Thomas? Do you not?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: Not regularly?
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Regularly? But I know you've been here, but this is
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: not your first trip here to this day.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 9: Once a month probably.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool. Well, I'm glad today is today, yes,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad. I'm glad you here. We were texting
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: and emailing a couple of days ago when it was
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: announced this settlement came out, and you wanted to have
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: a look at the at the original complaint, the settlement
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: agreement and all that, and we were able to find
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: that and have a look at it. And as you
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: review this complaint in the settlement agreement, what sticks out
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: to you? And then look, I went, Todd is not
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: a lawyer, We're not looking at this from a legal sense.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: But I mean over your years of being an inspector
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: general and looking into things, there are things that jump
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: out to you that did you find interesting? And so
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: so that's the point of the question here. What did
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: you as you look at this settlement agreement and then
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: the related documents, what did you find interesting about these things?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 9: Well, the first the first thing that that I thought
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 9: was where has this case been and what has the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 9: public been told about this case? Absolutely before this came up.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 9: And this is typical of this of this city administration,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 9: of the city compt.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: Because when the news broke on this literally I like
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: to think. Look, probably one of the faults I have
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: as a radio show host is I tend to I
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: tend to focus more on the national political scene and
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: and the you know, every you know, when a big
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: story breaks locally, I liked, I like to get on that.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: But when when this story came out, the news of
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: this settlement came out, I think it was late Friday,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, what is this? Yeah, Wall, where
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: is this coming from? Right? And just like you said that,
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: this is not something that had been followed regularly by
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: any of our local news.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 9: Outlets, right, Well, if you go on the city's website,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 9: they they do put memos online about the settlements that
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 9: they've reached, but they don't put online the pending litigation
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 9: as far as they they may report it to the
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 9: city council at some point, but it's not well known
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 9: what other cases are out there right now. I don't know,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 9: So that's kind of my first my first complaint. The
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 9: problem that I saw was there's nothing in the complaint
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 9: or the settlement that is really evidentiary value. There's nothing,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 9: there's nothing that we see yet about the the efficacy
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 9: of these allegations. Complaints can make all kinds of allegations,
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 9: but what what is their evidence? And we're not the
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: public is not getting access to that.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: Well, there's not there's not any evidence. I I don't
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: see any any hard finding of facts that this is
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: why the city ought to settle this case the city.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: I guess my point on this is I don't see
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: anything that says, you know, these plainest uh state that
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: that X, Y, and Z happened to them, and because
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: of these these specific complaints and the finding of facts
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: that go along with this, we feel it's best to
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: settle this. I'm not finding that level of specifics that's right,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: and that's what should go on. Maybe maybe that exists somewhere.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it does well, but it's it's
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: it's not evident in the documents that I've seen.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 9: So you're right, and what should happened today is that
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 9: the city council should.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: Should demand that if if you want me to goin
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: off on this, I know if I was on that
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: committee that's going to look at this, that's exactly what
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: I would be saying. That's right.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 9: The council needs to carry out their due diligence on
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 9: this settlement because you're talking eight million dollars of city funds.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 9: They have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure that that
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 9: settlement is in the best interests of the city. And
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 9: what have they done. For example, there's no executive session
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 9: on the agenda today for the Public Safety Committee. They
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 9: should be going in the executive session and getting briefed
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 9: by the Solicitor's office. We should know exactly what went
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 9: on in terms of making this decision. My guess is
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 9: that the mayor called in, the solicitor, called in the
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 9: city manager, maybe a couple of lawyers, and they set
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 9: around the table and decided, no, we're going to settle.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 9: So we should know exactly how they reach their decision,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 9: and then we should know what due diligence the city
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 9: else is going to be carrying out.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: You see, you know, you say, you say, you're you're
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: speculating at the mayor sat in on meetings on this.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: I have a sense that Mayor Purvall wasn't involved in
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: this whatsoever. I think he wants plausible deniability. Well they
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: have anything to do when you know, when this thing
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: crosses his desk, he put his signature on it, unfortunately.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't, I don't I don't see.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: I don't see Purvoll's hand on in this at all.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 9: Unfortunately. I think you might be right then.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: I just I just think that's the way he conducts
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: business well a city hall. I know, if I was
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: the mayor, I would There's no way I would sign this,
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: There's no I would just me. I would say, we're
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: going I'm taking this to court.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I would direct my law department to to bone
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: up on this and let's take it to court, because
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  Speaker 1: I just think it sends a terrible message. Yeah, while
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  Speaker 1: others who would engage in such activity.
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  Speaker 9: I don't want to be overly critical, but I'm not
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  Speaker 9: sure the law department is up to it.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: You know, they've they've been involved in other cases where
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  Speaker 9: you shake your head about settlements. They they folded on
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 9: a litigation that they made. They made a big deal
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  Speaker 9: out of of suing Wenebrook Homes for the lousy property
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 9: management that Winebrook carried out. Uh, they made a big
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  Speaker 9: deal about going after them and suing them, and they
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  Speaker 9: folded like a cheap suit, and you have to shake
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 9: your head, like, what what's the deal? And and what's
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 9: worse is the settlement in that case. It made it
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  Speaker 9: look like the city was at fault and the city
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  Speaker 9: agreed to all these reforms and they're doing the same thing.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 9: They're doing the same thing on this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's what the the the ordance says. There's
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  Speaker 1: no you know, there's no finding or an admission of
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  Speaker 1: guilt on the on the city's part. But yet they're
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: acquiescing to Oh, we're going to have additional training and
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: a new guidebook for for Cincinnati police about how to
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  Speaker 1: how to handle such claims.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you put more more constraints on the police,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 9: more rules that they might not be able to follow.
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  Speaker 1: And in the case of a ride, well, these new
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: guidelines have to meet the approval of Iris Roling.
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  Speaker 9: Well, if you if you look, if you look at
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  Speaker 9: her contracts, I would say I would say it probably
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 9: it probably would.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's get into that on the other side of
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  Speaker 1: this as we take another quick break here eight twenty seven,
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  Speaker 1: continuing now with Todd Zinzer, also known as a Citizen Watchdog.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: You're doing a podcast now with Joe Strucker, aren't I am?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: How's that one? How is it working? With Joe on
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: on on the podcast.
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  Speaker 9: It's easy, It's very easy. He's a he's a great guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, someoneoud told you five or ten years ago,
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: you're going to be doing a podcast every What are
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: you doing like like every couple of weeks or I
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: try to do one a week, one a week. Yeah.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: Would you have believe them that you were going to
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: be no, you know, podcasting or doing on a regular.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 9: It's actually Joe's fault. He's the one to suggest it.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: He's very persuasive. Yes, those Joe, we love Joe strecord.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: I mean without him, I mean a lot of this
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: stuff would not be happening. All right. I mentioned Iris
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: Rolli before he went to the last break, and you have.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: I thought you did great work talking about her contract
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 1: when it was discovered that I guess she had her
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: son working down on Government Square passing out some information,
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: getting paid roughly fifty eight dollars an hour, which is,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: to my way of thinking, is a pretty I know
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that would like to earn fifty
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 1: eight dollars an hour, Yes, passing out some leaflets down
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  Speaker 1: down at Government Square. Yeah, but you have some additional
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  Speaker 1: information regarding the contract that she has with the city. Right, Well,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: she's carved out a pretty good gig for herself, has
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: she not? Yes, she has tell me about it well
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: before the election and all the controversies we had this summer.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: Uh and when uh the FOP file to complain about
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: miss Rolli allegedly interfering with police policemen on the street.
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  Speaker 1: I think we saw some video to that effected.
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  Speaker 9: We know, yeah, you saw a couple of clips videos
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  Speaker 9: And that's really what got me uh paying attention to
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 9: to miss Rolli. Well, something they must have put her
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 9: on on the They must have benched her for a
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 9: period of time. And then the next thing you know,
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  Speaker 9: the mayor is on with uh Lincoln Ware saying that
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 9: they've negotiated a new contract with with Iris Roli. And
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  Speaker 9: I thought that was going to be kind of They're
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 9: going to fix all those kind of fast and lose
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  Speaker 9: provisions in the contract. Yes, yes, so when when I
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 9: when I seem to make sense? So when I heard that,
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  Speaker 9: I said, well, I'm going to ask for a copy
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  Speaker 9: of the new contract book document right right. It took
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 9: me a little while to get it, but it's very
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  Speaker 9: very unusual you have a you have a soul source
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  Speaker 9: contract that was issued in twenty twenty three, that I
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 9: don't think is really justified. But then you have three
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  Speaker 9: amendments since then. And the original value of the of
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  Speaker 9: the twenty three contract was about two hundred and ten
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  Speaker 9: thousand dollars. That was a total value of the contract.
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  Speaker 9: Now fast forward to the third amendment, which is what
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  Speaker 9: this new contract is called. The value of the contract
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  Speaker 9: is now six hundred and forty one thousand dollars, and
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  Speaker 9: that goes through when that goes through twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: Through twenty twenty seven. Yeah, and that that's only that
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: that's only two years through the end of twenty seven.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the the so six hundred thousand dollars, right, value of.
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  Speaker 9: The contract goes from now until twenty seven, and it
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 9: includes other things.
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  Speaker 1: That six hundred grand.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the total value.
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  Speaker 1: Is what she's pulling down from the city.
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  Speaker 9: If if she completes all years of the.
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  Speaker 1: Comment, I would say she's got a pretty good incentive
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  Speaker 1: to do that.
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  Speaker 9: I think she does.
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  Speaker 1: But for what and what type of services is Misroly providing, Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's very important. There's two categories. I'd say one is
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  Speaker 1: she was originally contracted to consult and it has to
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: do with the collaborative Agreement and sustaining that she's an
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: expert in. Those are.
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  Speaker 9: The management Advisory group that she's involved in.
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  Speaker 1: But then the.
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  Speaker 9: Second and third or the first, second and third amendments
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  Speaker 9: have added what I view as program responsibilities. One is
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  Speaker 9: called the Government Square initial and that's where the city
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  Speaker 9: is paying her a lump sum like seventy five thousand
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  Speaker 9: dollars to carry out I don't know if you'd call
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 9: it community engagement or what the official term would be,
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  Speaker 9: but they're down at these transit hubs to kind of
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 9: chaperone the kids when they exchange buses or get off
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 9: the buses, and they.
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  Speaker 1: Help providing information too, which is very very important.
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  Speaker 9: They are they're providing snacks and things like that. So
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 9: that's called the Government Square Initiative. And what happened is
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 9: that the contract ended when the school year ended. The
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 9: Government Square Initiative ended when the school year ended, and
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 9: it wasn't going to start up until the fall, so
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 9: there was this summer period. There was a gap. Iris
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 9: Roley didn't have authorization to spend any money during that period.
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  Speaker 9: So the third Amendment fixed that by home me so,
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  Speaker 9: but the program wasn't the Government Square initiative because the
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 9: kids aren't in scholar Now it's called that period, it's
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 9: called summer in the city.
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  Speaker 1: Some are in the city.
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  Speaker 9: So those programs have absolutely increased the contract value and
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 9: and they should actually be bid out a separate contracts.
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  Speaker 1: Does the contract spell out her her area of areas
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: of expertise and and her background in the different areas,
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: you know, consulting backgrounds, and you know, maybe I don't
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: know miss if she's got a legal background or a
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: criminal justice background, or well the the background in you know,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: social work or something like that.
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  Speaker 9: My main issue with what's going on is these non
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 9: competitive contracts that the city Procurement rules say very clearly
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  Speaker 9: non competitive contracts, soul source contracts should be extremely rare
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  Speaker 9: and they require a justification. So the justification for Miss
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  Speaker 9: ROLI's it's at one page, basically one paragraph, and it
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  Speaker 9: cites her a work in the civil rights movement, and
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 9: it cites her involvement with the original Collaborative Agreement and
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 9: all of those things. But my point, and I've made
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 9: this to the city, is that before COVID, they actually
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 9: had a city employee on staff doing the things that
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 9: they've contracted Iris Roli to do and my thing is
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  Speaker 9: my thing is if if they were able to hire
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 9: a city employee to do the work. I don't think
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  Speaker 9: that you can say that miss Roli is uniquely qualified
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  Speaker 9: or that her qualifications are the only ones that can
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  Speaker 9: do the work.
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  Speaker 1: And she continues her role on the Citizens Complain of forty,
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  Speaker 1: does she not?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, she's not on the authority, but well, I'll have
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 9: to check that. I think I think she interacts with
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 9: them based on her consulting role. Oh but I don't
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 9: know if she's still on the on the commission or
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 9: committee itself.
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  Speaker 1: There's there's not very many that can carry out duties
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 9: Yes see. One of the things I thought was that
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 9: if she's going around telling people, you know, they should
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 9: be filing complaints against police officers they interact with, all
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 9: that does is add to the backlog for the Citizens
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 9: Complain Authority that's already through the roof.
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  Speaker 1: So she's out there drumming up work.
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  Speaker 9: That's the way it looked at me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Joe, do I got to get to a
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: break here, my late I'm late for a break. I'm
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: late for a break. Let's go ahead and do that
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: now and we'll continue with Todd Zinzer on fifty five
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  Speaker 1: k r C. The talk stays this season, make the
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: holiday an unforgotten see the talk station. I'm late whatever
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: Joe Stucker tells you. That's the voice that god zins
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: or Citizen Watchdog. Great to have Men's studio this morning,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: so much stuff to talk about. You showed me a
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: a document a little while ago about that is a
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: financial disclosure from our mayor, and I mean he is
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: he is very well invested. He's he's got an extensive portfolio,
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: so that that is very nice to see. And when
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: it comes to the repossession of his vehicles, was was
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: he supposed to report that to the state of Ohio
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: or what's what's the deal on it?
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 9: Well, if if you carry debt, if you have creditors,
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 9: you have you have to report that on your financial disclosure. Unfortunately,
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 9: the forms that Ohio uses.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: You've had a look at those forms, have you not have? Yeah?
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: They don't. What did you find there?
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  Speaker 9: Well, they don't require really any information in terms of,
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 9: you know, the debt. They just make make the official
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  Speaker 9: list his creditors. And he's done that for three creditors. Uh,
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 9: but there's no information about how far in debt the
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 9: mayor is, so that's not extremely useful.
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  Speaker 1: There's one.
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  Speaker 9: There's three creditors, American Express, Lincoln National, which must be
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 9: alone on an insurance policy or something, or Lincoln Financial.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but the third one is an outfit called
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 9: ACS ACS, and you don't know what ACS really stands for.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 9: There's a lot of acs is, but I will say
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 9: that there are ACS's that are collection agencies. So it
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 9: would just take more information to know whether or not
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 9: that has anything to do with his repossession of his cars.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: For for most people, dealing with a collection agency is
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: a one time thing. You know, you've you've missed a
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: payment for whatever reason, or you've got something that you
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: overlooked in you deal with that, you get it squared away.
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: And I would not think to put a collection agency
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: on my list of creditors. If I had to fill
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: out such a financial disclosure. Well, his last night, I
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: don't have to do that here at iHeart meeting. You know,
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: I might not be beyond his microphone very long.
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  Speaker 9: His last three disclosure reports twenty two, twenty three, twenty four,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 9: twenty five not doing until next year. They all list
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 9: the same three creditors. Yeah, so whatever the debts are
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 9: to those creditors, they've been long standing. Yeah, okay, so
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 9: it's the financial statement reports weren't very helpful in terms
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 9: of figuring out what the truth is about his repossessed
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 9: vehicles or vehicle whatever, but it did show that he
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 9: doesn't seem to have a lot of financial problems.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, but the thing is, it's it
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: seems so silly that you just don't get in front
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: of this thing, come clean about it. It's it's gonna
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: go Look, a car getting repossessed is not the worst
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: thing that can happen financially, but just own it, put
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: it in the rear view mirror. And but the if
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: he continues the stonewall on this, the truth is out
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: there and eventually when that gets found out, it's going
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: to drag him down. Just get it, get it, get
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: it over with, man. I mean that to me, it
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: seems that that would be the prudent thing to do.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 9: That's right, get in front of it, because what happens
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 9: is if if people think that you're not being forthcoming,
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 9: they're going to wonder, well, what else is going on?
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 9: Why why wouldn't he be forthcoming about this because he
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 9: doesn't want to be embarrassed. Well, he's already in that category.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 9: But what else is going on that he would not
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 9: be forthcoming about this?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Kevin Aldrich from The Inquirer wrote
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: a you know, a little column on this, and you know,
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: talking about how trust is the most important currency at city.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 1: Haulling just come on, mister mayor, well af in front
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 9: After the railroad vote, both he and Reggie Harris were
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 9: on TV saying, yeah, we need to rebuild the trust
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 9: of the people in city Hall. And then they turn
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 9: around and within a year they do connected communities, right,
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 9: which majority, if not all, the neighborhood councils opposed. And
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 9: then they did they did these zoning laws for development
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 9: that the citizens opposed. Well, they haven't done anything to
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 9: build trust back.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at your website right now and your podcast
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: from November twenty fifth talks about the city's lead pipe scandal.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: I want to touch on that before we before we
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: call it a morning. So one more break to get
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: in here, and then we'll continue on with todds In's
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: or Citizen Watchdog on fifty five KRCV. Talk station.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, Gary Salvan here, Oder exits a lit.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: Tuesday Morning, Dan Carroll, Ryan Thomas Todds Inzer the Citizen
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: Watchdog is here And you did a podcast back on
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: November twenty fifth. I have not listened to it, but
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: you talk about the city's lead pipe scandal. Yes, and
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: give me a thumbnail of that.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 9: Well, the city wound up the water works, I should
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 9: say wound up conducting an investigation based on an audit,
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 9: an internal audit that was conducted that found that there
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 9: were members of the lead crew, or at least one
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 9: member of the lead crew, that was stealing the scrap
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 9: lead and instead of processing it for recycling, was selling
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 9: it on the street to these scrappers.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: And there was they probably sold it for recycling.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 9: Well you hope so, but there's no you know, the
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 9: trail goes cold. Nobody is, which is my big problem.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: So there's a bunch of missing lead.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 9: Well, the program pipes, the program's been going on five
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 9: or six years and the recycler never got any scrap leads.
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 9: So what happened to it? And the issue for me
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 9: is whether that whether the city did what they call
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 9: a hazardous waste determination to see whether those lead pipes
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 9: constitute at hazardous waste. So I do have a request
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 9: in for that documentation. I haven't gotten it yet, but
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 9: if they didn't do it hazardous waste determination, they could
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 9: they could run into trouble with the state EPA and
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 9: the federally FEDERALPA.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would imagine that if in that part
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: of the contract, if you don't follow certain regulations that
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: are laid on and I'm sure there's got to be
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: alone when it comes to dealing with lead pipes and
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: things like that. There's got to be a long list
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: of environmental regulations, even under the Trump administration. Yeah, if
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: you do not adhere to those, you could be in
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: line for some significant finds, could you not.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 9: Right, there's a federal there's a federal law called the
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 9: Resource Conservation and Recovery Act RICRA, and it has civil
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 9: and criminal provisions. But the civil provisions are some of
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 9: these finds can go up to like tens of thousands
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 9: of dollars a day, and it's a very serious statute.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 9: And I just have to believe that the waterworks did
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 9: their due diligence, did the hazardous waste determination, and we
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 9: don't have to be concerned about lead pipe scrap lead
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 9: pipe leaking into our waterworks or water system.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: But I mean it's got to be that's I mean,
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 1: the lead pipes that were in and around Cincinnati, which
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: by the way, has a great reputation is having one
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: of the absolute best water filtration systems right the entire country.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 9: Right, And the Cincinnati Futures Commission recommends get we sell
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 9: it or regionalize it and lose control of it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for God's sake, all right, Well, let's let's recap
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: because we only got about a minute and a half
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  Speaker 1: left here. So Iris Rolli's getting has a contract that's
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: worth about six hundred grand. Yes, so that that that's
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: great for her. The settlement that's going to pay eight
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: point one million dollars to these rioters and people that
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: we're engaging in misbehavior in downtown Cincinnati is very light
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: on specificity. Right.
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  Speaker 9: We really don't know whether it was a good case,
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 9: a bad case in between, or why they're settling.
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  Speaker 1: And your recommendation to the members of the committee that
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: are going to look at this today would be to what.
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  Speaker 9: I A well, I'd call an executive session and bring
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 9: make sure that we look at what the Solicitor's office
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 9: has come up with there should be an absolute risk
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 9: assessment written provided to the city Council that at least
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 9: they could deliberate. But the way it's going to work
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 9: is they're going to propose the ordinance that the chairman
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 9: of the committee is going to say, we got this ordinance,
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 9: and then they'll go around to each member and each
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 9: member will pontificate about why this is such a great deal.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to take public comment at
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: this at this committee meeting.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 9: They will at the beginning of every committee meeting and
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 9: the council full council, they give people two minutes.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: Could be an entertaining it could be and the and
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: the mayor is very well invested and should not let
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: this repossession thing drag him down.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I think he needs to tell the truth
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 9: about what was going on with these repossessions.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: Todds Zen's aer a great meeting in person, man, thank
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: you so much for coming in. And now I know
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: you've got a high level meeting that you have to
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 1: go to with Joe Strecker, So you do. That's going
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: to be the highlight of your day right there. Todd
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 1: Zen's are all the best to you man. All right,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: all right, we'll see you down the road and that's
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: it for me. Glenn Beck is coming up next. Thanks
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: for listening.