Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - Rewiring Your Mind for Unstoppable Innovation | Atif Rafiq - Executive Leader, Keynote Speaker & Author
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover a powerful framework for decision making that fosters
- 0:04exploration, alignment, and informed action. Learn how to ask the right questions,
- 0:08overcome organizational silos, and approach challenges with a collaborative mindset.
- 0:12This process will help you make better decisions and drive impactful outcomes.
- 0:16This process, I think it's broken down into a few different pieces, so I want to make sure that we're on the same page. So this process, I mean,
- 0:35in this book, there are 13 different superpowers that I guess are the core concepts that people have to think about. But then it's,
- 0:44it's even sort of drilled down to an even more simple framework of exploration, alignment, and decision making.
- 0:52So I want to understand how those two concepts play. So when somebody thinks, say, somebody looks at this and they're like,
- 0:58and we're going to talk about some of these superpowers when we talk about this framework in a second. But when somebody thinks about superpowers,
- 1:03what does that mean for them? Is that these are like the attributes or the skill sets or the soft skills, hard skills, what are superpowers?
- 1:10But then also that framework, I want to go deeper into that framework as well.
- 1:17Great. So high level concepts are basically, first is the idea of upstream work, the first downstream downstream everybody understands.
- 1:26Yeah, that's where we have the decision point. They have the decisions and it's like, let's go. Let's make a project plan and let's execute.
- 1:33But I think we can all relate to the fact that we spend weeks and months trying to get to the decision point and getting our organization to say yes.
- 1:42And so this upstream part is broken down into three phases, exploration, alignment, and decision making. So let's take them one by one.
- 1:52So exploration is a concerted effort to surface the really important considerations, especially the unknowns and get to the bottom of them.
- 2:03And you do this by starting with questions. Questions are very democratic. They're very inclusive. You can give four people from a company that have different roles, different jobs.
- 2:15And you put an idea in the center of the table and the first thing that comes up will be all kinds of really interesting questions.
- 2:24To me, that's gold. That's not skepticism and that is actually high quality input to say, what are the unknowns around this?
- 2:33What seems to be a promising idea? You want to do a good job of creating space for that. And you want to collect those questions before you race ahead to anything else, like having a judgment or an opinion, or yeah, trying to align on what to actually do.
- 2:50So exploration creates space for getting all the right questions on the table and trying to get to the bottom of them. That's phase one.
- 3:00The second phase is using the exploration to draw conclusions. You're standing on high quality information.
- 3:09And you said, OK, there was a bunch of things. So we had questions around, here's the discovery that we did.
- 3:16And now we're in a position to say, well, what conclusions would we draw from this? What makes sense?
- 3:23Then you look at those conclusions and you try and bring people together to say, do we have alignment?
- 3:29And generally, you'll find that people say, well, based on this fact base, these are some conclusions that we draw.
- 3:36And usually that's pretty layered. It's not just, oh, this is a good idea or a bad idea. It's many things. It's, yeah, we should do this idea, but we should also keep in mind X and Y.
- 3:49And so people, you know, it's really important to spend time, say, OK, what do what do you see in your eyes? And do we see the same thing?
- 3:59When, once you're complete with that, that's when you're ready to drive action. And that you say, well, based on these conclusions, what, what actions do we need to commit to?
- 4:10And that's where you usually are parting with dollars and resources. You're walking through one way doors sometimes, right? You're saying no to two other ideas. And yes, to this one, that is the time for action.
- 4:23So in the book, I break this down further into 13 workflows, where you should, you know, sort of set these up in your teamwork and basically create a path from, you know, idea, promising idea to the decision point.
- 4:41And hopefully that improves the company's ability to say yes to the right things and know to the things that deserve a no.
- 4:48So ultimately, at its core, not to not to oversimplify the complexity that is core for people that are, are just wrapping their mind around this concept, it's, it's a decision making process with a built in feedback loop.
- 5:01And that can be executed. So my actual, my question, is that, is that correct? Is that like a good summary of it? Is that oversimplifying significantly? If it is, I apologize.
- 5:11Because nobody, some people, some people have knock on into this level of, of depth when it comes to decision making yet. And I mean, you're talking to a range of individuals.
- 5:20And some people are just starting to make these big decisions for their business or trying to figure out, okay, at what point do I start incorporating this? Is this something that I, I work with a, a small vendor, this is something I should incorporate. I should put, you know, put an expiration phase out to the business to my co founders, she talked to them.
- 5:39Or is this very specific useful for very certain larger decisions to move the business forward?
- 5:46It definitely applies to companies of all kinds, although, you know, you know, if, if you're on the smaller end, you know, five people or 10 people, probably some of this can be done, you know, I'm very informally through your conversation.
- 6:02But once you start to get, if you will, functions in a company, you know, that's, or any sense that there are any silos, then, then you need something. Otherwise, you're leaving it to chance of personality.
- 6:17The, the, the, a good way to summarize this is basically it's a method which promotes exploration, promotes starting with questions, they suspend judgment on what to do, because the human mind, as you know, there've been some neuroscientists who have written about, and I talked about this in my early chapter.
- 6:38Around the way the brain works, there's system one and system two and system one is for a very quick decision making. You're in the forest and the tigers there, do you defend yourself for run kind of thing, and there's system two, which is much more about thinking twice about something.
- 6:55And which allows you to see a little bit more of the picture and the kinds of work we do in companies, especially around innovation is much more system to oriented that part of the brain.
- 7:08Where you need to think twice about it and question it in order to see more of the inputs. Now human nature, and especially in companies, you know, depending upon the personalities and the culture of the company, you can be using system one, but you need to be using, you have a system to problem. Yeah, that's a big common occurrence in companies. Yeah, because people might think, oh, my job is to know exactly what the right thing to do is at all times, but that's actually not the case.
- 7:38The better way to look at leadership is to know how to ask the right questions or get the right questions on the table.
- 7:46And, and another, another thing that I'm thinking people would have a big, big concern with, not in terms of the process, but in terms of their own organization is, you mentioned something, you mentioned.
- 7:56This is great to solve for this type of thinking, the system one system to thinking, but also silos. So silos pop up in organizations.
- 8:06I know that this is not directly related to, to decision sprints, but it's probably something you've experienced. Do you have any tips for stopping silos from forming as much as possible.
- 8:17Is this a process that actually improves not only the decision making, but by constantly deploying this process, you almost improve the structure of the organization because it breaks down silos before they would even start if done properly.
- 8:34As one of my passion here is, to be honest, we just got, because I think it's one of the most bafflin things in companies is the, you know, not initiating with another part of the organization that has some relevant input. So the way I solve for that, and this is actually part of the first workflow in the decision sprint is grouping people around a common challenge.
- 9:01So to look at, you know, a problem you're trying to solve in a company or a new idea and saying, what competencies do we need to gather around this specific idea, this specific problem that we're trying to solve.
- 9:13When you start with that, from the get go, you automatically melt away the silos, because the opposite is, I think, more common, which is, okay, who's point on this in the company?
- 9:26And it could be a person or some function, and there's no problem with that.
- 9:33If they then say, well, we're going to do a much better job of problem solving if we get the right inputs around, you know, what this, you know, what the picture is, and what competencies do we have in this organization.
- 9:47That we can group around this common challenge. So to me, that's the mindset that we need to take.
- 9:54And then you stop thinking about, you know, structures and layers and other things like that.
- 9:59And you just start thinking about, you know, what is, for example, what Amazon will call a two pizza team, you know, not huge, but enough to feed the team with two pizza pies, right?
- 10:12Yeah, there's five or six or seven or, and that's it.
- 10:16No, no, no, however you are, yeah, but that's what you get, you know, and that's really wise, because, you know, it's not one or two parts of corners of a company, especially on a large company that can really solve a problem, you know, holistically, right?
- 10:31So thinking about like being hungry for input, why don't we get the right inputs to really solve this problem? That will melt away silos.
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