Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / How to Align Your Small Business with Dave Newell
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- 0:58Hi, everybody.
- 0:59This is Melinda Emerson, the small bus lady.
- 1:01America's number one small business expert.
- 1:04Now let me introduce my guest, Dave Newell.
- 1:07He is on a mission to align the misaligned.
- 1:12He believes that connecting with leaders, he he loves to connect leaders with systems that
- 1:17foster outstanding work and personal fulfillment.
- 1:21He collaborates with small business leaders to implement what he calls the 5 facets of
- 1:26business.
- 1:27A small business operating system to optimize businesses and foster team alignment around
- 1:33culture, strategy, operation, story, and finances.
- 1:38This framework provides leaders with the necessary clarity and alignment to crush both
- 1:43short and long term goals.
- 1:45As CEO of Evolve Leadership Consulting, Dave has coached 100 of leaders, both nationally and
- 1:52Internationally, to implement his framework.
- 1:54For more information, go to Evolve dash consult dotcom.
- 1:59Dave, welcome to the Smart Bishop podcast.
- 2:02Well, hey.
- 2:02Thanks so much for having me.
- 2:04Now tell me your origins story.
- 2:06Right?
- 2:07How did you become the alignment guy?
- 2:09Right?
- 2:09Tell me about that.
- 2:11Yeah.
- 2:12The the term alignment really actually came from know, when I first started working, I
- 2:16actually started in community organizing and I was working with nonprofits and farmers and
- 2:23government agencies to help, do some environmental work.
- 2:28And you can imagine that all three of those entities had some different ideas about how to
- 2:32approach that work.
- 2:34And what I realized is that everybody had a different desire.
- 2:37Everybody had a different want, but they all were looking for how do we work together
- 2:41better?
- 2:42Right.
- 2:42And so my job was to find the common ground and build from common ground.
- 2:46And as I started getting more involved into small business and the business world, What I
- 2:52started to recognize is that businesses were often taking an approach of fixing one thing at
- 2:56a time.
- 2:56Like, alright.
- 2:57Our leads are down.
- 2:57Let's get after leads.
- 2:59Or you know, our operations, we need to documents and processes or finances.
- 3:03We need to shore up our finances, whatever it might be.
- 3:05And they were taking these one off approaches.
- 3:08What we started to realize is that if you turn one of those dials, it influences everything
- 3:13else.
- 3:13Right?
- 3:13If you change your target market, it might change your core business.
- 3:16If you change your core business might change who your target market is, so on and so forth.
- 3:21So what we realized is that, you know, instead of taking this kind of symptoms approach, The
- 3:26best way to address business challenges is to take a systems approach.
- 3:29Let's look at your business as a entire operating unit as opposed to each individual
- 3:34function operating on its own.
- 3:36And as we've been able to do that, we've been able to kind of pull alignment to the forefront
- 3:41to say, well, if let's let's make sure that all 5 of those major systems are moving in the same
- 3:45direction.
- 3:46When we see that, we see businesses scale.
- 3:48We see a lot of the you know, issues and challenges that they deal with kind of go to
- 3:53the wayside, so to speak.
- 3:55So how does a business know whether it's in or out of alignment?
- 4:02That's a really great question.
- 4:03There are lots of different variations to this.
- 4:06But some of those things are the symptoms that you would normally see.
- 4:10What we say is you often will see the outputs, right, which is, hey.
- 4:13We're missing our sales targets.
- 4:15Our, you know, product isn't getting shipped out the door.
- 4:18Nobody's signing up for our workshop.
- 4:21You have disgruntled employees.
- 4:22You have people asking for raise or, you know, equity.
- 4:27You have internal communication breakdowns.
- 4:29Hey, this thing isn't getting done.
- 4:31And those are often symptoms of system problems.
- 4:35Right?
- 4:35It's the output that you can see.
- 4:37So if it's tangible, if it's a tactical thing, and you find yourself Melinda dealing with
- 4:42these types of issues over and over again, that typically means that, hey.
- 4:45There's something upstream that isn't working very well.
- 4:48There's something upstream that if we fixed it, you wouldn't see these outcomes or you wouldn't
- 4:53see these outputs on the back end.
- 4:55So it looks differently in very many differences, in in all the different
- 5:00businesses, but often it's it's the outcomes that you can see.
- 5:04It's the outputs that you can see.
- 5:06Does it come down to the leadership though because, right, we all know that's, you know,
- 5:11stink starts at the head.
- 5:13Right?
- 5:13So so is it is it really Is it is it really about the leaders of the organization and how
- 5:19they're communicating and what they're prioritizing?
- 5:23Absolutely.
- 5:24We have a leadership framework that we tie to this, that has kind of 5 key disciplines to it
- 5:30or 5 key behaviors to it because what we know is yeah, we can implement the world's greatest
- 5:35operating system into your business, and it still doesn't work because people are the ones
- 5:40directing that system.
- 5:42And what we often say is that the system is perfectly designed to produce the results that
- 5:46it's producing, right, which is kind of a, well, obvious statement But, really, what that
- 5:51means is, you know, what it requires of the leaders to recognize, like, well, if we're
- 5:55getting this result, if the result is we're missing deadlines.
- 5:59If the result is we have internal communication breakdowns, if the result is our sales are down
- 6:03or our, you know, our revenue is stagnant, It's like, well, the system is designed to do that.
- 6:08So what we have to do as leaders then is step back and work on the business to say, Okay.
- 6:14Well, how are we organized?
- 6:15How am I sharing information?
- 6:17How am I, you know, what are we prioritizing or not prioritizing as leaders to then shift that
- 6:23and to produce a different result.
- 6:25So very much to your point, it is absolutely a leadership imperative to take that approach.
- 6:32And there's some behaviors and skills that come along with that.
- 6:35But what about Alright.
- 6:37So I okay.
- 6:38So you've worked with me.
- 6:40You you've trained me in your leadership training, but now I'm trying to implement
- 6:47achieving alignment in my business.
- 6:49Right?
- 6:49What are some of the common challenges that a small business leader might have when they're
- 6:55trying to, you know, write the ship, if you will.
- 6:58Yeah.
- 6:592 things.
- 7:00One is often there is a there is a focus on the urgent.
- 7:05Right?
- 7:06So we there's a term out there called the tyranny of the urgent, which means we spend our
- 7:10time being reactive instead of proactive.
- 7:13And so everything that shows up all the different issues that you're gonna deal with,
- 7:17right, like, you know, whatever it is that employees frustrated or they're asking for more
- 7:22money or they didn't follow through on the thing that they're following through tends to
- 7:25divert our attention from the long term activity that we're trying to accomplish.
- 7:30Right?
- 7:30So it is managing that short term versus long term, which is one of those pieces is sticking
- 7:35with the priority, knowing this is the system that we wanna build, and holding to it.
- 7:41So the tyranny of the urgent is one of those things and number 2 is knowing where you are on
- 7:47the map.
- 7:48And so one of the things that we like to say is, you know, business leaders, I think, are
- 7:52really good generally speaking, it's saying, hey.
- 7:55This is where we're going.
- 7:56Right?
- 7:56Like, this is the end.
- 7:57This is the journey.
- 7:58This is the destination, but they're not very good at saying, well, where are we starting on
- 8:02the map?
- 8:03If you ever go, you know, hiking in the woods and you're looking at a hiking trail map,
- 8:07what's the first thing you look for when you look at that map?
- 8:10It's the you are here sticker.
- 8:12Right?
- 8:13And if you don't know where you are, you don't know how to get where you're going.
- 8:17And so one of the other symptoms that I think I see from a leadership perspective is a distance
- 8:22from the reality of where their business actually is.
- 8:26And so they are aiming for this vision.
- 8:28They're aiming for this place that they wanna go.
- 8:30But their starting point doesn't make sense because they're not aware of or not in touch
- 8:36with the current reality or the current state of their business.
- 8:39And so they start building things, but they're building things from a Rocky Foundation, not a
- 8:43not a firm foundation.
- 8:46Okay.
- 8:46So break down for us what you call the 5 facets of business.
- 8:50Yeah.
- 8:51So the 5 facets are, culture strategy operations story, which is the sales and
- 8:56marketing category and finances.
- 8:59And what we find is that, you know, when we do our assessments, when we when we come in and
- 9:03start with an organization, we find that most businesses are good at 2 or 3 of those things.
- 9:08Right?
- 9:08Especially small businesses.
- 9:09We typically work with businesses that are 5 to 50 employees.
- 9:13And, typically, they're good at 2 or 3 of those things.
- 9:15So they might have a great culture.
- 9:16They might have a great story.
- 9:18You know, sales and marketing machine, but they can't get the product out the door.
- 9:22And their finances are a little bit of a mess or they're, you know, constantly dealing with
- 9:25people issues, whatever it might be.
- 9:27And so our job is to elevate the aspects of the business that are failing or aren't as
- 9:32systematized or aren't as structured.
- 9:33And what happens is then you elevate everything in the business when you fix whichever facets
- 9:38are failing.
- 9:39And so we take that comprehensive look.
- 9:42Those are all the major buckets.
- 9:43Right?
- 9:43Those are all the major operating systems in your business.
- 9:45So when you put all five of those together, you know, it's rocket fuel at that point.
- 9:51Love it.
- 9:51Love it.
- 9:52Well, listen.
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- 9:55We're come back and talk more about alignment, we'll be right back.
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- 10:58Welcome back to the small biz chat podcast.
- 11:00I'm Melinda Emerson's small biz lady, your host, and I'm here with my guest, Dave Newell
- 11:05Dave, you were talking about the 5 facets of business.
- 11:09Now can you talk about, you know, the the stages of alignment.
- 11:14Right?
- 11:14You said that one of the biggest challenges is people don't know where they are in the first.
- 11:17Everybody's good at saying the goal, but they don't know Well, you know, how far are we from
- 11:21the goal to begin with?
- 11:22So can you talk about how, you know, what are the three stages of alignment and, like, a key
- 11:28principle behind each one?
- 11:30Yeah.
- 11:31So, the 3 stages are alignment, misalignment, and realignment.
- 11:36And so alignment is, alright, our systems are short up, streamlined, simplify, our people are
- 11:44committed to those systems.
- 11:46Everything's Melinda moving in the same direction.
- 11:49The challenge with alignment is It's not a static state.
- 11:53Right?
- 11:53Like, once you achieve alignment, it doesn't mean you're gonna stay there.
- 11:56Contact situations, economy shifts, etcetera.
- 11:59Right?
- 12:00The environment around your business might change.
- 12:02And so it's a constant state of trying to stay in alignment.
- 12:06Misalignment, which we've already talked about a little bit is when you start to see those
- 12:09symptoms when your systems aren't working as well or your people aren't committed to
- 12:13operating those systems, And you start to see the pain points.
- 12:17Right?
- 12:17You start to see revenues, stagnation, internal communication breakdowns, you know, missed
- 12:22deadlines, those types of things.
- 12:24And realignment is the act of discerning where are we, right, where are we misaligned, making
- 12:32a plan, and then executing the plan to get back to alignment.
- 12:35And I think what I often see in the businesses that we work with is when they're in
- 12:40misalignment, it's not that they're unaware that they're misaligned.
- 12:44But what they haven't done is taken the intention to say, where are we misaligned?
- 12:48What's the plan?
- 12:49And and how are we gonna go ahead and execute this?
- 12:52Right?
- 12:53So the realignment is an active state of moving back towards alignment, but it is taking a
- 12:58systems approach, not a symptoms approach.
- 13:01Mhmm.
- 13:02So I I know that you sometimes say that you can leverage tension to drive positive change in a
- 13:10business.
- 13:10What do you mean by that?
- 13:12Yeah.
- 13:12So tension shows up all over the place in an organization.
- 13:16Tension is essentially where the hard things are.
- 13:19Right?
- 13:19So, you know, human beings have a natural tendency to resist difficult things.
- 13:25We like it when it's easy.
- 13:27We like it when it's comfortable.
- 13:28Right?
- 13:29But we often say, you know, what's in the way is the way.
- 13:32Right?
- 13:33So where are the hard play And so with the leaders that we work with, we try to build up a
- 13:38capacity to do what we call Melinda run to trouble.
- 13:41Meaning, Hey.
- 13:42This is a hard place.
- 13:42What we wanna do is actually Melinda turn ourselves towards the hard place and go dig
- 13:46into it and dig into it fully.
- 13:49Right?
- 13:49So tension is the space.
- 13:50That might be difficult conversations.
- 13:52Conversations, you're not having a lack of trust in a particular environment.
- 13:57It might be, hey.
- 13:58This process isn't working, you know, for us or, you know, our sales pitch isn't working,
- 14:03etcetera.
- 14:04We often under do those fixes.
- 14:06We've Melinda looked for the quick fix or the fast fix to those solutions or hear you deal
- 14:11with it.
- 14:11Right?
- 14:12Like, here, let's give that to somebody else and you take on that problem.
- 14:15And really what I'm looking for from leaders and organizations is to find the tense places
- 14:21to find the places where things aren't working and to really lean in and dig in and fix those
- 14:25things because when you fix it, then everything else starts to get better.
- 14:29Love it.
- 14:29Love it.
- 14:30Alright.
- 14:30And tell us what are some practical strategies or tools that small business owners can use to
- 14:36you know, improve alignment within their organizations.
- 14:39Yeah.
- 14:40There's really there's really kind of a generalized thing and then a very practical
- 14:44thing.
- 14:45The generalized thing is, what I often find in organizations and what we built into the 5
- 14:50facet system is there's design elements and there's execution elements.
- 14:54And generally speaking, your organization is more comfortable with one of those things than
- 14:58the other thing.
- 14:59Right?
- 15:00So ideation versus execution might be another way to break that tension a little bit.
- 15:04Right?
- 15:04But those design elements are target market, core business, vision, values, purpose, and
- 15:11kind of forecasting in your finances and making sure that those things are lined up because
- 15:16essentially, like, and key strategy.
- 15:18And, essentially, what that is, that the design of our business.
- 15:21That's why we do what we do.
- 15:22It's who we're gonna be while we do it.
- 15:24Right?
- 15:24And if those things are lined up, okay, now we have the frame We have the design.
- 15:28We have the structure for our business designed.
- 15:31Now we have to translate that into an execution element.
- 15:34Right?
- 15:34So I'll give you a really clean example.
- 15:36A lot of organizations do values.
- 15:39Right?
- 15:40Like, I think most small businesses were like, yes.
- 15:41We should have values.
- 15:42We've done values that often turns into a perfunctory exercise.
- 15:46Meaning, we did this exercise.
- 15:48We had to retreat.
- 15:49We designed values together.
- 15:50Everybody felt great.
- 15:51It was all puppies and kittens and cotton candy.
- 15:53And then we got back to the office on Melinda, and that guy was being a jerk.
- 15:57And then this thing didn't work, and we hold nobody accountable to the values that we came
- 16:00up with.
- 16:01Right?
- 16:02So values as a design element is a good thing.
- 16:05You need to have that.
- 16:06You also need to have it as an execution thing.
- 16:08So we often had behaviors that are controllable underneath those values.
- 16:12So what are the concrete controllable things that make those values true?
- 16:16We had ritual, which is how are we ritualizing culture?
- 16:20What are some of those touch points that we can add?
- 16:22And then we add an accountability through performance reviews.
- 16:25So it's a good example of being able to bridge the gap between Alright.
- 16:28We have a kind of clear structure that we can do from an design perspective and then a clear
- 16:33structure that we can do from an execution piece.
- 16:36The really tangible thing that you can do is, there are all sorts of kind of small business
- 16:41assessments that you can take.
- 16:42We have one on our website.
- 16:44That's free.
- 16:45People can take it as 26 questions takes 5 minutes.
- 16:48And it's a great indicator of where are we on the map?
- 16:51Right?
- 16:52You are here.
- 16:53You can do that monthly.
- 16:54You could do that weekly.
- 16:55You could do it as many times as you want.
- 16:57And really what it'll do is it'll just show you, like, where are we excelling and where
- 17:01aren't we?
- 17:02Right.
- 17:02So I think a real practical thing is to actually just pause for a minute and take stock
- 17:07and look for, alright, what are some of those symptoms that we're dealing with?
- 17:11And how is that teaching us about the systems that are broken behind it?
- 17:15Right?
- 17:15So it is that just stopping taking stock actually assessing your business.
- 17:20Well, Dave, you have just dropped so much knowledge on me in just this short amount of
- 17:25time.
- 17:25I just have one last question for you.
- 17:27What is the best business advice you've ever gotten?
- 17:32There's so many.
- 17:33I've been so blessed to have so many wonderful people around me.
- 17:36I've learned a lot from a lot of different entrepreneurs, and I think, one of the best
- 17:41stories I've had is about perspective.
- 17:45And so the the simple statement is have perspective.
- 17:48And if you find yourself agreeing with the majority, it's time to pause and reflect, which
- 17:54is don't just do what everybody else is doing.
- 17:57Don't just do it because it's trendy or because it's it's what the thing is, you know, that
- 18:02that you're hearing about all the time, you know, read this book, do this thing, follow
- 18:06this process, but do the thing that's really supposed to happen.
- 18:09Right?
- 18:09They can have an and have your own opinion about it, have your own perspective on it, and
- 18:13lean into that part.
- 18:15And I think that's been really helpful for me not to chase beds or not to just do the thing
- 18:18that everybody else is doing, but really having a perspective about something that maybe
- 18:23nobody's really talking about her thinking about.
- 18:26That's helped over time.
- 18:27Thank you.
- 18:28Thank you so much, Dave.
- 18:29I really appreciate it learning so much about this.
- 18:32And that's a great antidote for us to leave it on.
- 18:36Thank you all for joining me for this episode of the Small Bishop podcast The mission of the
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- 18:44And I wanna leave you with this.
- 18:45You never lose in business.
- 18:47Either you win or you learn.
- 18:49God bless everybody.
- 18:56Thanks for listening to the small biz chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
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