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S4 66. Anita Sileoni – My Supernatural Life, Worship is my Weapon · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard See podcast.
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  Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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  friends. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit in virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence.
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  And literally raised himself from the dead.
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  And yet we're not going to believe that anything else
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  exists in the spirit realm, even though his word tells us that
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  they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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  to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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  to heaven, so they wander the earth.
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  You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
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  being spoken. These giants would live way up
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  in the island. The young graves, the young men
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  would hide them in the trees, They wait for one of these 12
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  footers to come walking down the path and they would jump on them
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  and kill them, drag them back to the village and the village
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  would feast on the body. Then people start to get
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  weapons. They start to get armor.
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  They start to build cities. They start to fortify their
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  cities. Now God looks down and there's
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  violence everywhere. The.
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  Battle. This war that we are at is not
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  against each other. It's against these
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  principalities and these rulers and these archons in the high
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  places. It's really worthwhile to read
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  the Bible. Yourself.
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  Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control, because
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  we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony.
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  That is a justice case against the Kingdom of darkness.
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  You live in illusion, in the appearance of things.
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  There is a reality, but you do not know this.
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  When you understand this, you will see that you are nothing,
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  and being nothing, you. Are everything.
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  That is all. Welcome back to the Millennial
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  Mustard Seed Podcast. I'm your host, Rod.
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  Thank you for being here with me.
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  I have a heartthrob episode for you guys.
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  I am joined by Anita, and she has quite a story to tell.
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  This is one of those episodes where she shares her testimony.
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  We dive into some supernatural experiences we talk about.
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  Greens visions battles in the supernatural realm.
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  Anita is a worship leader in a very large church out West and
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  she works with the youth helping them to know what it really
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  means to worship God. Having an audience of 1, this is
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  an important episode. I reached out to Anita after
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  finding her through the Tim Moon episode that I did with author
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  Tim Moon. Tomato Fields is his book.
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  And it was one of these connections where she has this
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  amazing story. She gets emotional on this
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  interview as she shares things that I don't think she's ever
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  shared on air before. And I'm in the background.
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  I'll get a little bit emotional too, just listening to what
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  she's went through. But there's something about our
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  testimonies and how the blood of the lamb causes us to overcome.
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  You know, Christ is the strong tower.
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  He's our refuge. He's the one who keeps us
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  together through all these seasons of life.
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  And that's why this episode is so important.
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  I think it's awesome that Anita has been listening to the
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  podcast for a couple years now and has found it to be helpful
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  and edifying. She's married for over 20 years.
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  She has four boys. Her oldest son is going to Bible
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  College in the fall. And it just it a beautiful
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  family. A beautiful testimony.
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  Check the show notes on each episode description.
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  This one will have a link to both of Anita's Instagram pages
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  so you can reach out to her. So if you have a story, a dream
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  vision, just something you want to reach out to me to come on to
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  the podcast and share. Please do that.
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  You guys can find my e-mail in the show notes.
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  And I need you to give me that five star rating and review,
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  write me a written review on Apple podcast.
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  That really helps the show grow. You guys, we want to reach more
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  people. God is going to do some amazing
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  things through this little tiny mustard seed of faith here.
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  And that's exciting for me because that's all I have, is a
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  little tiny seed of faith and to see what God has already done
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  and what he's going to continue to do.
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  It's humbling and it's an honor just to be able to create.
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  Episodes for you guys to enjoy that helps encourage you and
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  helps you got open. Open your eyes to what's really
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  going on here. And with all that being said,
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  I'm ready to jump into this awesome testimony with Anita.
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  Are you guys ready? Let's go.
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  My name is Anita, and I'm coming to you from Idaho, and you're
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  listening to The Millennial Mustard Seed.
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  That was an awesome introduction.
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  Anita, it is a pleasure to be with you on this recording.
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  I'm just thrilled that you've asked me to come and share my
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  testimony, so I'm excited. You know, we listen to each
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  other's stories because really this podcast, I'm capturing my
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  journey throughout these last couple years and just sharing.
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  How hearing other people's stories and how broadening the
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  the spectrum and asking strange things about the Bible and
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  wrestling through my own experiences has helped me
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  personally. So it it's an honor when I just
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  get to connect with other people around the country, around the
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  world and just hear your story and we were talking a little bit
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  off air, you're going to reach people that only you can reach.
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  So it's a good thing. Yes, definitely.
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  I don't You start off by just telling us a little bit about
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  yourself. Well, let's see.
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  So I am married. We've been married for 20 years.
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  Praise God for that. And four boys.
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  They range from two teenagers. One is getting ready to leave
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  the house for Bible college, and then I, my youngest is just
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  turned 7. So it's been quite a just a lot
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  of bumps, a lot of turns, but you know, God has been there
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  through all of it and has really just.
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  Shown so much kindness to our family.
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  And so I can start from the very beginning of my testimony is I
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  was about 7 years old when I really felt the Lord and the
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  Holy Spirit just work in me. Yeah, This was about the same
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  time where I started taking voice lessons because I was just
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  I I told my parents I I want to learn how to sing.
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  I want to do it the right way. And so.
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  Funny, my mom actually told my dad.
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  She says I don't think that we should give her voices.
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  And she's kind of like a tomboy. What if she doesn't sound good?
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  What if she doesn't? And my dad was like, no, we need
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  to give her, you know, a chance and see, like just give her the
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  tools. So my mom, obviously now she
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  she's like, I'm so sorry. I just barely found out about
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  this story not that long ago either.
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  So. But.
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  Because my older sister was taking voice lessons and I
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  wanted to do I, you know, I wanted to be like her.
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  And so I little did I know that that was something that God had
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  put inside of me because he was going to use that later.
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  And so, you know, my teacher was like, well, you have a natural
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  talent. You have like really good range
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  for your age. And so I used that and I started
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  to sing. In church they let me come to
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  the main worship team and I started to just kind of.
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  They mentored me very young age and I do different specials and
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  there was one time I was singing at a girls camp, so I'm not sure
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  if a lot of people are familiar with.
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  I grew up in the Assemblies of God, so we had we had
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  missionettes and Royal Rangers, so it's basically just like Boy
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  Scouts and Girl Scouts. But it's all Bible based.
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  You go through curriculum that teaches you the Bible.
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  And I mean it's it's really, really great program.
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  And so this is where the story begins.
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  I remember one time I was singing at A at a girls camp, I
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  was ministering through a song and they called and they said if
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  you wanted, you know, to dedicate your life, which I had
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  done. Before just growing up in
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  church, I had accepted him when I was really young.
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  But this time was different. And I remember I went up to the
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  front and I just felt the Holy Spirit wash over me and and I
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  heard the voice of the Father say I want you for me.
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  And I didn't know what that meant.
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  And I just knew that later on I found out that he wanted me to
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  just sing for him. Use my talents for him.
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  And I remember making that commitment to him saying I will
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  only use what you have given me the because you're my creator.
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  So what you've put inside of me was meant for you.
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  And I remember just at that young age as time went on, that
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  stayed with me. So it was a serious thing I did
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  at 7 years old. And just as I grew older, I just
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  started to realize, you know, this is.
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  He doesn't want me to use what? Why would I use what he's put
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  inside of me to glorify anything other than him?
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  And so just taking that with me, I was about 8-9 years old when I
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  auditioned for this. It was like a traveling music
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  ministry for kids. And we'd go to different
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  churches and it and it was, you know, we were sharing the
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  gospel. We were doing, you know,
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  different. It was a musical.
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  It was amazing. I had such a great time.
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  And that was the first time that I experienced just performing
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  arts in the church. We lived in La Puente CA and we
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  went to OK, I'm sorry I skipped over the first supernatural
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  experience. Let me rewind so.
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  I was born in Ontario OR and at the age of five, my mom got a
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  job to be a secretary to the Dean of Students in La Puente,
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  CA at LABI and my dad got a job there as the head of
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  maintenance. So we were traveling.
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  This was a huge. Move for us and for my parents.
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  And they felt that's where the Lord was calling them.
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  Well, I was five years old. My sister was about 7:00, and my
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  brother was just a baby. We were on the back seat.
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  We had a U-Haul that we were hauling with our car.
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  And all of a sudden there was just a big boom of fire that the
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  engine caught on fire. And this is something that I
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  don't remember this part of the story.
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  This is what my mom. Told us later and so my dad went
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  into shock. He's a veteran he actually, he's
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  he actually passed away about a year ago so going on a year and
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  a half now. But he he struggled with PTSD
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  and back then we didn't know that's what it was he was
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  struggling with. He would have nightmares and and
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  just it was really bad. Well because of what?
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  He was struggling with he actually froze and he didn't
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  know he he couldn't hear my mom was yelling my mom was shaking
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  him because he was driving and and I mean the car was on fire
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  the engine was on fire so he find my mom was praying and
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  finally he he snapped out of it and he pulled over he pulled me
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  out of the side of the car my mom got my sister and my brother
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  out. This is where I remember so this
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  is I had. An out of body experience where
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  all of a sudden I see, but I'm looking at this scene where the
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  car's on fire and my parents are trying to remove the Uhaul from
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  the car. Me and my sister are standing on
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  the side of the highway and we're in our pajamas and I'm
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  looking at this scene from behind so I can see just the
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  just the picture of me. And my sister on the highway,
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  but I'm only watching it from behind.
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  So I and I remember to this day, I see the ruffles in in the back
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  of our pajamas, like moving in the wind.
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  And I see that that picture of my sister holding my baby
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  brother. And that's all that I remember.
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  And then the next thing I know, firemen come and we're at a
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  hotel. I was crying for my Cabbage
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  Patch doll because I was like I want to save her.
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  My cabbage patch doll and the firefighters brought they they
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  were able to save them but my dad said that we were crying for
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  our like our dolls and that he couldn't get it well so let me
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  go back a little bit in the story So this is what's
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  happening from my parents perspective So they're trying to
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  detach EU Haul from the car and they're not having any luck and.
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  All of a sudden a blue Volkswagen, a little blue powder
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  blue Volkswagen, drives up. There's three men and they're
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  very tall, and my dad says that he he said that he just
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  remembered them being very tall and he didn't know how they all
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  fit in that little, that little Volkswagen, and they pushed my
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  parents aside. They gently move them aside and
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  they work all three of them with their hands.
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  And my dad says he couldn't see what they're doing.
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  And in minutes it was moved that EU Haul was detached from the
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  car. And so my mom turns around to
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  say thank you and they're just gone.
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  The car's gone. They're gone.
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  They disappear. And so my dad always said, you
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  know, the God has has his angels that.
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  And that was, and I always believe that since I was young.
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  I believed all. I mean that was my first
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  encounter that I had where it was kind of an out of body
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  experience. But I knew that there was so
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  much more that the Bible doesn't didn't talk about that.
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  There was so much more in the Bible that we don't even
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  understand. And I and I knew that.
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  And so going through life when I had these experiences, I always
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  knew, I mean people would say that I'm crazy, but I always
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  knew that no, there's. I mean, think about the
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  prophets, think about the disciples, think about these
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  people that they've they've walked these these experiences
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  and and regardless of what other people say, you have those
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  experiences and so you know in your heart, you know in your
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  spirit that they're true. But and a lot of people don't
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  mean harm by saying you're like, they're just they just can't
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  accept it because maybe they haven't had experiences or maybe
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  there's. They're, they've had bad
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  experiences. And so that's what I tell my
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  kids, because my kids also have dreams, visions and encounters.
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  And I always tell them they're not like, don't don't be
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  offended when someone says that you're crazy, but it's just
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  because they don't understand and they haven't had those
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  experiences or maybe they've had bad experiences.
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  So it's always like a teaching moment when we go through these
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  things with my boys. But.
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  So that was the very first ones. So I mean after that we grew up
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  my dad, so I'm I'm half Native American and my dad, it's from
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  my dad's side side, he's Apache and we're from the Characola
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  tribe. And so we he always told us that
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  we were descendants, direct descendants of Geronimo and he
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  had different heirlooms that his father had.
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  But his father gave them to so my dad has all boy like all
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  brothers and I guess my and my dad is the oldest and my
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  grandfather gave them to the other boys and and not my dad
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  and but there was a lot of dysfunction there.
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  He wasn't saved. My father, my grandfather he was
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  an alcoholic and there was just a lot of just kind of abuse that
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  my dad went through. He he didn't get saved until he
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  was 30. But that's a whole other.
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  I mean, that's a whole other story.
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  So I have a I have a question for you.
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  Like I had a similar experience when I was seven years old, like
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  an out of, It's hard for me to describe like an out of body
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  experience, but can you kind of, like go into a little more
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  detail like you say you see you and your sister, your sisters
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  with your, your baby brother? I think it is, but you're like,
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  are you up in the corner, like looking down watching this
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  unfold? So I feel like I'm floating in
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  and I'm like be directly behind but kind of far away.
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  So it's not. Yeah, it's more of and I feel, I
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  can feel like I still remember the feeling of the wind.
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  So if I can feel the wind around me, that's why I'm thinking
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  maybe I was like floating like I felt like I was floating behind
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  behind us, like and I'm seeing myself and I'm seeing my sister
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  and I see the detail of the of the ruffles.
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  In the back of our pajamas, just like like float like floating
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  and it was snowing. So this happened while it was
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  snowing. It was cold.
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  I remember seeing the snow on the on the sides of the highway
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  but it and the fire in the car was engulfed in flames.
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  It and this was I guess my mom. They were able there was a few
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  cars that stopped to help and that's when they called the.
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  The just you know, for help. But yeah it's it's still it
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  still blows my mind how I can remember now and I'm in my 40s
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  and I still remember that experience it it I think when we
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  have these experiences and you know it's like no one can take
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  away what you felt and how and what you experienced in that
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  moment. And I believe that there's a lot
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  of people that. That have these experiences
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  encounters and don't and they can't make sense of it And so
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  it's so important that we share these these stories and so that
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  we can say there is a group of us out here it's okay that
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  you've had these experiences you're not crazy there is
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  there's a place that we can share this and and understand
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  because we and it also opens your eyes to say we live the
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  spiritual. Realm is so real.
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  It's more real than reality. But to understand it or to be,
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  and I do believe that the Lord does, we're not, we're not able
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  to see everything because I don't think we could handle it.
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  And so when we do have these like moments of encounter or
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  these moments of just supernatural experiences, it
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  it's somehow. We're able to tap into that for
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  some reason, like the Lord's allowing us to experience it or
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  when we have like attacks like He's allowing us to go through
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  that because he knows that what we can handle and he knows what
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  we can take. And obviously there is
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  definitely the. There's a darker side of it of,
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  you know, what have you opened yourself up to?
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  If you've opened yourself up to things that can come in and and
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  give you negative experiences. So there's just, that was the
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  very first one and and honestly, since I hadn't had any dreams,
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  so my dad has. Had has always experienced
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  dreams, visions, got to work through him where he would see
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  things before they happened. So he's he's definitely walked
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  in the spiritual, but I didn't start to understand a lot of it
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  until I was a teenager and this is where my story continues,
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  especially in the supernatural so.
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  I I mean I had an amazing childhood.
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  I loved being in ministry with my parents.
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  My dad always showed us how to connect to our Native American
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  side and and how that made that was part of who we were and how
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  God made U.S. special in that way and he never my sister my
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  older sister now she's actually has she has she made a business
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  out of her gifting to. I'm sorry, I'm losing it to make
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  Native American art. So she does bead work and she
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  does, She carries. She's carrying on what my dad
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  did when he was here. And it's beautiful to see her
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  express her creativity and in that and she's just learning
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  more about our roots. And it's always like her and I
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  have conversations and we're always talking.
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  I always tell her I'm like, you still have to be careful because
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  there is a lot of witchcraft involved.
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  In those things as well. But at the same time there's so
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  much beauty in and you hear about like I've heard about how
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  in Native American culture it's all of it's very much like the
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  Hebrew culture where they everything was done by stories
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  So they told stories and they passed those stories on and it's
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  and in all of these different native cultures they have like
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  the story of. I mean, they have all these gods
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  that they that they talk about, but they all know that there's
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  one God and they say the Creator.
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  They referred to him as the creator.
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  So a lot of these before, you know, the invasion of the land
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  and everything that was taken from them, they already a lot of
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  these places knew of Jesus, but they didn't call him Jesus.
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  They called him. They call him something else.
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  And so that's a whole, I mean. We won't get into that, but
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  that's a whole. That's a whole other.
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  Thing that's a future episode. I mean I was watching even just
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  recently like other people's work and there's so many
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  parallels to each continent has a flood story and if you really
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  take the time like we're not going to do this here and and
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  and tonight and have that that discussion but that's an
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  important part for the listeners.
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  You guys go do some research you'll see a commonality that
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  is. You would literally have to have
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  your head in the sand not to see all of the things that every
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  single culture and continent shares these common threads.
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  And a lot of the times, the religious spirits like, Oh no,
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  you can't read ancient Mesopotamian documents.
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  Or no, you can't listen to the oral traditional stories of the
• 23:50
  American Indians or, you know, they they want to box you in.
• 23:53
  But The thing is. There's a holy truth and then
• 23:59
  there's truth, right? Like, it's true.
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  I had coffee this morning, but that's not holy.
• 24:03
  It's just true. I did.
• 24:05
  I drank coffee. But when God is, is giving us
• 24:09
  revelation through His word, it's holy, it's set apart, it's
• 24:12
  sacred and it's eternal. And I think a lot of these other
• 24:15
  things are important to be aware of.
• 24:17
  But but yeah, that that's fascinating.
• 24:19
  That actually got me excited. Just because I believe down the
• 24:22
  road we'll be able to have some really cool conversations.
• 24:25
  I am. Infatuated with American Indian
• 24:27
  stories. I mean even the giant stories we
• 24:30
  have local things all around here in Southeastern PA like for
• 24:35
  example, Santa Toga is very close to where I live now and
• 24:38
  grew up and it means to look from upon a hill in American
• 24:41
  Indian. It's just it's just so much cool
• 24:43
  stuff. But I want to, I want to ask
• 24:45
  you, so let's let's gear this back towards like your testimony
• 24:48
  a little bit. You shared this supernatural
• 24:49
  experience and then. I know, like we had talked about
• 24:55
  like this passion for music and you created some music in your
• 25:00
  younger days and you're serving right now by just, you know,
• 25:04
  this is what I love to capture also is like you have this heart
• 25:07
  to help, you know, this gathering, this local body.
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  There's younger kids there that are.
• 25:14
  You're mentoring them and showing them love and actually
• 25:17
  operating. And what I think one of your
• 25:19
  giftings is, and that's just servitude and compassion and
• 25:22
  just the wisdom to know these children need inculcated, right.
• 25:26
  And so you're helping with the music, you're singing and
• 25:30
  praising God and offering this gift.
• 25:32
  So let's dive a little bit into, you know, share, share, like the
• 25:36
  10,000 foot square view of your music background, like kind of
• 25:39
  how that started and what your passion is for.
• 25:42
  And then yeah, we'll just kind of keep going from there.
• 25:45
  Perfect. Yes.
• 25:46
  This is the next step in the story.
• 25:48
  So I I started. I've always been involved in
• 25:52
  music. I when I was younger, God showed
• 25:55
  me that I would be teaching. And so my goal out of high
• 26:00
  school, Well, when I was in high school, I always did stuff.
• 26:04
  I had the opportunity in the church, so I used to live.
• 26:07
  So I was in it. I've not.
• 26:08
  I've, I've been. I grew up in the Bay Area,
• 26:11
  California. Oakland, Alameda, San Francisco,
• 26:15
  mostly. That's kind of where I say, I
• 26:18
  mean, I was born Ontario, but that's kind of where I say that
• 26:20
  I'm that I'm from because that's where I spent a lot of my
• 26:23
  elementary junior high years and then in high school.
• 26:27
  The last two years of high school we moved to Phoenix, AZ
• 26:30
  and that is where I got connected to a church where I
• 26:35
  was able to, they let me handle. A youth drama ministry.
• 26:39
  And so we started doing, because I always had this heart.
• 26:42
  I'm like, why? Let's create.
• 26:44
  I wanted to be able to create a space where we.
• 26:49
  I'd get these gifted musicians, gifted singers gifted like that,
• 26:54
  or even people that wanted to learn.
• 26:57
  About drama in theater and put it in a place where we're
• 27:00
  actually using that for God, because I always had in my heart
• 27:03
  everything that I do, all the gifts that I have, I want to
• 27:06
  give them back to the Lord because he put them in me.
• 27:08
  And so that was kind of like the motto.
• 27:10
  That was what was burning in my heart.
• 27:12
  And so at the church I was going to at the time, they allowed me
• 27:15
  to have this youth drama ministry.
• 27:18
  And I just always, I was like, let's go out to the streets.
• 27:23
  So we'd go and we do like these impromptu.
• 27:26
  To like dramas in the streets and then we'd pray for people
• 27:32
  people would get saved it and it was it was pretty crazy we had a
• 27:38
  so then though I had an idea to my friend lived in this it was
• 27:42
  like the vario like really bad neighborhood and but she had a
• 27:47
  pretty big yard and and her parents let us go use her yard
• 27:50
  and we did like an interpretation of.
• 27:56
  I'm trying to explain how it was.
• 27:58
  It was just kind of like talking about like you have two choices
• 28:01
  and the narrow path or the wide path.
• 28:03
  And we turned that into a music musical that turned into just
• 28:09
  and it was outside in the yard, like in someone's yard.
• 28:13
  And and we did at night and we had no noise complaints, but we
• 28:16
  had people walk by and sit down because we set up chairs and we
• 28:20
  just did this. We we put music.
• 28:22
  We did. I call it like an interpretation
• 28:26
  because it's back then we used to call it human videos.
• 28:28
  Now I don't know what the name of it is, but back then and I
• 28:34
  was heavily inspired by Carmen. So props to Carmen because
• 28:38
  that's what he did. He he put music and drama all in
• 28:43
  one and then he used it as as a ministry to like win souls.
• 28:48
  And it was beautifully done and it was choreographed and and so
• 28:51
  you can have dance you can have. All of this and it's all to the
• 28:56
  Lord and why not use it as a ministry tool.
• 28:58
  So that was that was kind of what started that ignited that
• 29:02
  in me. And so when I was a teen, when I
• 29:05
  was still in high school, this is what I was doing.
• 29:06
  And then and then my world just fell apart because I didn't know
• 29:11
  that my parents were having marriage.
• 29:13
  Like just problems in the marriage and they didn't really
• 29:16
  have as much as they put into the ministry, they didn't really
• 29:20
  have people that came alongside them to help them.
• 29:24
  And so they kind of were on their own.
• 29:27
  And I remember hearing my dad just yelling at my mom.
• 29:32
  And I went, I was 16 years old and I went to my sister's room
• 29:37
  and we we prayed all night. We prayed and we're like, God
• 29:40
  saved our our family. Sorry, I'm getting emotional and
• 29:46
  it didn't happen in the next day.
• 29:48
  He left and my sister was like. I I still remember the
• 29:54
  conversation that my sister had with him and she was angry and
• 29:58
  she was the oldest and and so she was just like, you know,
• 30:01
  just really like she. I mean, yeah she was just angry
• 30:06
  saying how could you do this to the family, why are you leaving?
• 30:08
  But it was just really she was the one that always she was so
• 30:12
  much like my dad that they always butt heads.
• 30:14
  And so that was kind of how he decided to he left.
• 30:18
  But I remember the weeks that came.
• 30:21
  He told he kind of warned me that he was going to go, but I
• 30:24
  didn't understand. I was very young and he would
• 30:26
  come back and he, he regretted it, but he and he would park in
• 30:30
  front of the car and cry in his truck.
• 30:32
  And I remember I was so young, I didn't know what I was like,
• 30:36
  God, what do I do? You know, how do I, how do I
• 30:39
  solve this? Because I was, I was a middle
• 30:42
  child and just, you know, wanting to always be the
• 30:45
  peacemaker and I didn't know like what to do and so.
• 30:49
  He ended up he did leave my my parents were married 24 years
• 30:54
  and but then he left and I remember that there was a part
• 30:59
  of like I I was going through grief and I didn't know like
• 31:04
  because the dad that I grew up with died that day and and I and
• 31:09
  so processing it now as an adult just understanding what I went
• 31:14
  through, that's that's exactly what it was it was a death
• 31:17
  because. He died the the dad that I knew,
• 31:19
  the dad that raised me. And so it was my sister was mad
• 31:25
  at him. He didn't have like, his
• 31:27
  relationship just broke with the three of us.
• 31:30
  And I remember going going into all of that.
• 31:34
  I was like, God, I'm not going to let him go.
• 31:36
  So I would still talk to him. He he would marry and divorce
• 31:40
  like every year. He was just searching and
• 31:42
  searching and he he let go. He lost sight of his first love,
• 31:45
  which is Jesus. Because that is the foundation
• 31:48
  that holds a family together. When you're found, you have your
• 31:51
  foundation on Jesus. But when you lose your let go of
• 31:55
  your first love, everything crumbles and it and it usually
• 31:58
  does it slowly and so that that's what was happening.
• 32:02
  Like they were involved in the ministry but they put that I
• 32:06
  believe over over like their first love and so.
• 32:14
  Coming back to the story, my brother was only 14 years old
• 32:17
  when my dad left. No, wait, he was younger, sorry.
• 32:20
  He was 12 years old and he went to gangs because the area that
• 32:26
  we lived in in Phoenix, it was just gang infested and he was
• 32:29
  looking for a family and little by little he would like.
• 32:33
  And so my mom, our household, because my sister moved out, she
• 32:36
  got married and so the household was just me, my mom and my
• 32:41
  brother. So it turned into a.
• 32:43
  You know, 22 parents to just a single parent.
• 32:48
  And I never thought that that would ever happen to our family.
• 32:51
  Well, my brother, he would get, he would just be gone for like
• 32:57
  days. And my mom and I would go look
• 32:58
  for him and knock on doors and try to find him.
• 33:01
  And there was this one time that we found him in and he was just
• 33:07
  laid out in the street and he was just high.
• 33:10
  And I don't know what drugs he was taking, but I remember we
• 33:13
  brought him home and we like detoxed him and and just took
• 33:17
  care of him. And I remember, I remember
• 33:21
  thinking there's so many youth that are out there that don't
• 33:27
  have mentors or don't have people that can help them.
• 33:30
  And that's when I decided when I grew up I I was still a
• 33:34
  teenager, I was 16 and like what I want to be someone like that I
• 33:39
  want to be. Somebody that could be a mentor
• 33:42
  or that can be a big sister or just somebody that has a that
• 33:46
  brings the voice of truth into their lives.
• 33:50
  I'm so sorry. I don't know why.
• 33:52
  No, no, don't apologize. I'm.
• 33:54
  I'm on an emotional roller coaster with you.
• 33:57
  And so this leads to, this leads to the desire to be a leader,
• 34:03
  you know, the desire to be a mentor.
• 34:05
  But also it leads to the very one of the first.
• 34:09
  Prophetic dreams that I had. So it was a night and it was
• 34:15
  where my brother, he wasn't fully into gangs yet, but he was
• 34:18
  hanging out with guys that he's like, these are my friends and I
• 34:22
  remember he was about 1314 now and I had a dream where he was
• 34:30
  in the playground and if you can picture, you know how there's
• 34:34
  like underneath the swing. When there's a swing set,
• 34:37
  there's like sand, but there's like a dip in that sand where
• 34:41
  your feet go as you push. So my brother, a guy had him by
• 34:47
  his his ankles, and another guy had him by his his wrists, and
• 34:52
  they were moving him back and forth in the sand, but it was
• 34:57
  like really hard, like asphalt sand.
• 35:01
  If you could picture like a street, they were moving him
• 35:04
  back and forth. And as they were moving him back
• 35:06
  and forth, they were laughing and they were ripping his face
• 35:09
  like apart. It was being like, just
• 35:11
  scratched and and torn. And I remember waking up and I
• 35:16
  went to him and I said, the people that you think are your
• 35:19
  friends, they're not your friends.
• 35:21
  They're laughing, They're mocking you and they're they're
• 35:24
  hurting you. And they're not who you think
• 35:27
  they are. And I mean.
• 35:29
  And that in the the mindset that he was in he didn't believe
• 35:33
  that. He didn't believe me.
• 35:35
  Well later on it turns out that these friends from the dream did
• 35:42
  betray him and they blamed him and he went to jail and that was
• 35:46
  the first time that he he got yeah it's pretty it's a crazy
• 35:51
  story but he went to jail and but.
• 35:55
  What he was sewing, he reaped. He was sewing the lies of the
• 35:58
  enemy. He believed the lies, what the
• 36:01
  enemy told him. And then so his hands were doing
• 36:03
  the works that go along with the lie.
• 36:08
  And so he began to reap just this, all of this.
• 36:12
  And when we were growing up, you know, he was just such a happy
• 36:17
  boy. He was so happy.
• 36:19
  He was just full of love, always smiling.
• 36:21
  And so something broke in him when my dad left.
• 36:24
  You know, that just kind of that betrayal of, you know, you left,
• 36:27
  you abandoned us. So that was the first stream
• 36:31
  that I had and I remember it was so vivid and I didn't know what
• 36:35
  to do with that. I didn't tell anybody.
• 36:37
  I didn't. I didn't want to tell my mom.
• 36:38
  I told my brother to kind of warn him.
• 36:41
  But you know, that was it. And he was.
• 36:44
  Since then he had just his life has been just tragedy after
• 36:49
  tragedy, I guess. I'll just quickly touch on his
• 36:55
  story. I'm so sorry.
• 36:56
  There's a lot. He got married to this girl that
• 37:00
  he was dating. She had a son already but then
• 37:02
  she adopted her siblings a younger brother and a younger
• 37:07
  sister because her parents, well, her mom was a druggie and
• 37:11
  they were C PS:. Was going to take the kids.
• 37:13
  So my brother her and my brother adopted them and there was just
• 37:19
  so much tragedy and and my mom. Was moving them from Arizona to
• 37:25
  Idaho and my little niece, she ran and she got hit by a semi
• 37:30
  and she she died instantly. That was another tragedy that so
• 37:35
  he had lost her what And he this happened while he was in jail.
• 37:39
  He divorced his wife. There's just a lot involved in
• 37:42
  there. And then she actually was
• 37:45
  brutally murdered a few years ago in Arizona.
• 37:49
  I'll wrap this up really quick. Just so as the years have gone
• 37:54
  by. You know we try to help my
• 37:55
  brother. He got out of jail, but then
• 37:56
  he'd go back in and there was just, I would pray for him all
• 38:01
  the time. Be like God, like why why is
• 38:03
  there no, Like, I feel like his life is just this tragedy.
• 38:07
  You know, like he's his whole adult life.
• 38:09
  He's been in and out of jail on the streets just trying to cope.
• 38:12
  And I'm like, there has to be like a solution like can you
• 38:15
  send someone to help him? Our relationship was.
• 38:19
  Just it was broken because and we were really close, but he
• 38:23
  just was in such a place where he couldn't have a regular
• 38:27
  relationship with anyone and he was just lost and he was
• 38:30
  searching and searching. And so last year in August, it
• 38:35
  was about 10:00 in the morning. I just felt this, this yearning
• 38:39
  to just pray for my brother and so I prayed for him.
• 38:42
  It wasn't like an extensive, long like warrior prayer.
• 38:45
  It was just like God watch over him.
• 38:48
  Take care of him. And then later on that day, I
• 38:53
  come home and my mom's here and she's like my brother.
• 38:58
  His name was Pete. He's like he was murdered.
• 39:00
  And I was just. I mean, we lost it.
• 39:02
  I couldn't believe it. I was like God.
• 39:04
  And and there's so many things that we don't understand that we
• 39:11
  go through. Like, especially when you face
• 39:13
  death, it's like, what? Like why didn't he?
• 39:17
  Fine. He's, you know here on Earth.
• 39:20
  And so I just know that he's somewhere because he was saved.
• 39:27
  You know, he just, it was so hard because he was just stuck
• 39:30
  in this cycle. And so many people out there are
• 39:34
  stuck in cycles, our loved ones and and it's cycles that they're
• 39:39
  thrown into not by choice but because of things that happen to
• 39:43
  them in life. But.
• 39:48
  So what you're saying is just, it really is touching my heart
• 39:53
  and I am on an emotional roller coaster with you as well.
• 39:57
  No, don't be sorry at all. Like this is this is the place
• 40:00
  for that. This is where you're going to
• 40:05
  reach so many people that you're intended to reach through this
• 40:09
  through telling this your story, your brother's story, your
• 40:14
  story. There's power in that.
• 40:19
  Yeah, it will really. It really is.
• 40:23
  I'm surprised that I'm able to talk about it.
• 40:25
  I actually didn't have this too much in the notes cuz I didn't
• 40:27
  know how it would come out, but it's part.
• 40:30
  It's totally cool. He's so part of my story.
• 40:33
  He is the reason why and and that dream that I had it I was
• 40:37
  like, okay this. I don't want to be that voice.
• 40:41
  I want to be that that person, whoever I can reach.
• 40:44
  And I remember I always had so much zeal for the Lord Back then
• 40:48
  we had meet me at the flagpole. I don't know if you remember
• 40:50
  that. It was in the 90s, early 2000s.
• 40:54
  And so we do that at my high school and I had like 5 friends
• 41:00
  and we all went and it was pretty.
• 41:02
  Be cool, because we had this. Everyone knew him as a preacher
• 41:05
  and so he was a preacher and he was an ex gang member.
• 41:09
  And so he would go and he would like, just, he had no shame.
• 41:12
  He would preach, She'd stand in the middle of of lunch and just
• 41:15
  like have a word of the Lord anyway.
• 41:17
  So we would all lock arms and pray.
• 41:19
  And we decided we're going to do this every morning.
• 41:22
  So we'd get up early, we'd meet each other at the flagpole every
• 41:24
  morning and we'd pray. I mean, people would like, throw
• 41:27
  stuff at us. Like we'd get trash thrown at
• 41:30
  us. Like they would laugh at us,
• 41:32
  they would like mock us and but we just prayed for them.
• 41:35
  And there was this one girl, her name was Mary and she was just
• 41:39
  so mean to me, like all the time.
• 41:41
  And I would just be kind to her. I would just, I just pray God,
• 41:44
  just that she would feel your love in the words that I speak
• 41:47
  or just that she would see me and see you.
• 41:50
  And so one day she comes up and she's like, hey, so you go to
• 41:53
  church, right? And I was like, yeah.
• 41:55
  And she's like, can I go with you one day?
• 41:58
  And I was so shocked. But I was, like, crying.
• 42:00
  Thank you, Jesus, because that was the goal.
• 42:02
  That is the goal. She was my age, but I was her
• 42:06
  kind of like her big sister. And she would call me when her
• 42:09
  dad was chasing her in the house.
• 42:11
  And she would because he was abusive.
• 42:13
  She would lock herself in the bathroom and and I told her, I'm
• 42:16
  like, you got to call the cops. You got let me help you.
• 42:19
  And she would say, no, no, it gets worse.
• 42:21
  We've tried and they don't help. And it was just this this really
• 42:25
  sad story. But she finally did get out with
• 42:28
  her little brother. It took a while but she was able
• 42:30
  to get out. But it was just this thing of
• 42:33
  you know, I'm going to lay myself down and and I'm going to
• 42:36
  go and be faithful and be there every day at the flagpole and
• 42:40
  somebody's going to get saved. And she did get saved and.
• 42:44
  I remember I laid hands on her and she's like, I just need to
• 42:46
  tell you that when you touched me, I felt fire.
• 42:49
  I felt a warmth come out of your hands.
• 42:51
  And I've and I know that that's the power of the Lord because
• 42:53
  she got saved and then she started preaching.
• 42:55
  It's school and she was like using her voice for the Lord.
• 42:59
  But it took one person to say, I'm going to do this and and I'm
• 43:02
  going to do it consistently. And so as the years went on, I
• 43:07
  just, I got in touch with some people that did because I always
• 43:11
  did music. I would do.
• 43:12
  Back then in the day, we had tracks where we would buy.
• 43:15
  I'd go to the book, the Bible bookstore, the Christian
• 43:19
  bookstore, and they'd have tracks that you could buy that
• 43:21
  that you'd, you know, from your favorite Christian artists.
• 43:25
  And then you could sing them. So I always went to the gospel
• 43:27
  ones. And so that's what we did.
• 43:30
  I mean, they don't. Now you can make your own beat,
• 43:32
  you know, online. And there's so much more.
• 43:34
  But that's where I started. And I started ministering that
• 43:37
  way and like. Evangelistic events like in my
• 43:40
  community and then I got in touch with these two rappers.
• 43:44
  They they were called Innergate. I don't know, I lost contact
• 43:47
  with them. But they're like, hey, we know a
• 43:49
  guy that has a studio and for you to come in and we'd love to
• 43:54
  like do a collaboration with you and I was like great, that's
• 43:57
  awesome. And so that produced the first,
• 44:01
  you know, demo that I had and. It was.
• 44:04
  I still, I mean, sometimes I'm like, you know what I was like?
• 44:07
  This is pretty good for, for like the very first thing that
• 44:11
  I've ever done in the early 2000s.
• 44:14
  It was pretty cool to be involved in, in something like
• 44:16
  that. And so then I met my husband,
• 44:19
  which is another crazy, crazy story, which I know we don't
• 44:23
  have time for that, but it's part of, it's part of this whole
• 44:26
  process that that God is preparing me for.
• 44:29
  And so he's the reason why I live in Idaho now.
• 44:33
  That's like the whole way that I got here to Idaho is all God.
• 44:39
  But I'm trying to condense this but it's all it all flows
• 44:43
  together. But I mean yeah, I I just I
• 44:46
  remember being younger and my dad would go preach at.
• 44:51
  Victory outreach. And that's where I got to meet
• 44:54
  T-bone, which he was like one of my favorite rappers back in the
• 44:57
  day. And I was like, Oh my gosh.
• 45:00
  And then you know DC Talk. And I love DC Talk because I
• 45:03
  loved how they were all uniquely different as a group but they
• 45:07
  all had their own like form of meat like way that they that
• 45:12
  they sang differently. And so that's been my whole
• 45:15
  problem like this. Well, I it's not a problem.
• 45:17
  It's just. I've always struggled with when
• 45:20
  people say, well, what kind of music do you create?
• 45:23
  And I just tell them, well whatever I fail in the moment
• 45:26
  sometimes I I want to do like my roots are definitely R&B, hip
• 45:31
  hop, like that's deeply rooted like the gospel and all of that
• 45:37
  and and so I'm just like now you know, Fast forward to where
• 45:41
  we're at now. I mean you have people combining
• 45:44
  all different styles of music. When I created the the demo that
• 45:48
  I did, I brought it to Idaho and I used it in different events
• 45:52
  and I would you know share the story of my brother and I mean
• 45:56
  it's it's a little hard now to share it because he is he did
• 45:59
  pass away. It's all involved in just this
• 46:03
  music ministry that the Lord has given me and and I always
• 46:07
  thought that I would. Be like a Christian music artist
• 46:11
  by now that I would have, like all these things out, that I
• 46:14
  would be touring, that I would be traveling.
• 46:16
  But, you know, God had he put me in the dirt.
• 46:21
  And that's what I say, you know, I died a long time ago because
• 46:24
  isn't that what we're supposed to be as Christians?
• 46:26
  We we lay ourselves down, We die.
• 46:29
  Because when we die, we can't be offended when we die.
• 46:33
  It doesn't matter what people say about us anymore.
• 46:36
  When we die, we allow the Lord to come in and completely use us
• 46:42
  for His will. Because isn't that why we're
• 46:44
  here? Like we all have a mission, we
• 46:46
  all have a purpose. And the only way that we can
• 46:48
  fully reach that purpose, I believe, is when we die and we
• 46:52
  hold on to our first love fiercely.
• 46:55
  Because that is what the enemy will try to take.
• 46:57
  Because if he can take your first love, if he can take Jesus
• 47:00
  and your passion. And your commitment to him and
• 47:03
  make you say no, it's all about self.
• 47:06
  Then he can overcome us because then we start.
• 47:09
  We we move our eyes on ourselves and our gifts and what what we
• 47:13
  can do, you know the American dream.
• 47:16
  Like we start looking. And I'm not saying there's
• 47:18
  anything wrong, you know, but it's like why not put the dreams
• 47:23
  and the visions that God give us and put that to use in our life
• 47:26
  and that might not look. Like you're you're making like
• 47:30
  all this money or you have your dream.
• 47:32
  That might not be what your Rd. is like.
• 47:36
  It might not be that. And I think the American dream
• 47:40
  focuses on that, you know, and I'm and I'm not saying, you
• 47:44
  know, get in debt. I'm not saying like it's good to
• 47:47
  be broke. No.
• 47:47
  But there are times where where we won't have, like, everything.
• 47:54
  You know. Well, I think a lot of people
• 47:55
  are afraid to actually take the journey they want that end
• 48:00
  vision and end goal. They want to have that wisdom
• 48:03
  and they want to be dead to self enough that God is willing to
• 48:07
  use them and work through them to cause his will to come about.
• 48:10
  But they don't want to go through the seasons that
• 48:13
  actually develop that kind of character.
• 48:15
  That's what I see. That's what I wrestle with.
• 48:17
  Because a lot of times I'm like, God, do you really want me here?
• 48:19
  I remember FLF when I had him on.
• 48:21
  He said yeah. The Apostle Paul said, I'm a
• 48:24
  tent maker. You know, I'm, I'm ashamed for
• 48:27
  the sake of the gospel and you're glorified, right?
• 48:29
  And it's like sometimes we have to just trust this process and
• 48:32
  journey. And a couple things I just want
• 48:34
  to comment on because you know, I'm literally sitting back here
• 48:37
  just taking this ride with you and heartthrob.
• 48:41
  I'm heartthrobed by it. But we we never know what
• 48:45
  happens in the final moments of our life here.
• 48:50
  Like the mystery, the power of God, the glory of who God is and
• 48:54
  how he works all things together.
• 48:57
  We we don't know what happens in those last moments of our life
• 49:03
  on earth. So I'll just let that plant that
• 49:05
  seed and let people deal with that as they will.
• 49:08
  And then when you said you were making that track and then you
• 49:13
  took it to Idaho with you. Has encouragement.
• 49:17
  Like for all of us, we have an audience of 1, first and
• 49:20
  foremost. So like, you're saying like,
• 49:22
  hey, it's not always going to be like these lights and this
• 49:25
  glamour and and maybe and you know what, maybe that's right
• 49:28
  around the corner. Maybe all of his preparation for
• 49:31
  what God wanted to to take you on, right.
• 49:34
  Look, look at Joseph's story. I mean the the word is there to
• 49:37
  edify us, to encourage us, to discipline us, that we can
• 49:40
  literally have a baseline, a template to be like God, work
• 49:44
  this all out in me, right? So just looking at the story of
• 49:47
  Joseph, how many years he went through hardship and deprivation
• 49:51
  until God brought into a place where it's like, yo, they
• 49:53
  intended that for evil. But I decided to turn that
• 49:56
  around, flip the script on him and make it good.
• 49:59
  But we have an audience of 1. Like God.
• 50:04
  He's watching. And as long as we're pleasing
• 50:07
  him, like you were saying, I wanted to just take this gift
• 50:10
  and I wanted to worship God with it, right?
• 50:12
  You're talking about, you know, 20 minutes ago, You're talking
• 50:14
  about you and your girlfriend that were in the backyard in
• 50:17
  this, you know, kind of city setting, just demonstrating and
• 50:20
  glorifying God. And then you know you talk about
• 50:23
  this track, this music that you made.
• 50:25
  See, we have to be right with God before he gives us any other
• 50:28
  position. So I, I literally feel the
• 50:30
  momentum building like for your future and how God's going to
• 50:34
  use you. And even this episode right here
• 50:36
  like that, this is the significance that I I always
• 50:38
  talk about the ripple effect. And I'm sorry, I don't mean to
• 50:40
  be rambling, but this is important.
• 50:43
  This is important, the ripple effect and we can, we can reach
• 50:48
  people. You have a specific.
• 50:52
  Way to reach people that only you can reach and like we don't
• 50:56
  know where this ripple effects going to go.
• 50:58
  We don't know. I love hearing like the stories
• 51:01
  or the movies are reading in a book about you know some young
• 51:04
  kid is on like the the edge of the Cliff of life, right?
• 51:07
  Like everything went wrong and then they hear this story or
• 51:10
  this program. Somebody shares a testimony and
• 51:12
  20 years later they held on to that in this secret place.
• 51:15
  Like remembered something somebody said and that caused
• 51:18
  them to have courage that it fits into many different boxes.
• 51:21
  But that happens like so we don't know when you're sharing
• 51:25
  your journey, your story, your heart, who that's going to
• 51:29
  affect. And I think that's where it gets
• 51:31
  very exciting and interesting. You are strong and bold because
• 51:35
  you're coming out and talking about stuff.
• 51:37
  I'm a full grown man and I'm like I cannot cry on my own
• 51:41
  podcast. I got to mute my mic and just
• 51:43
  let her finish. There's so much.
• 51:45
  I mean, God is so good. Like it.
• 51:47
  I've had a lot of prophetic words spoken over me, but the
• 51:51
  one I will share recently, and I do want it.
• 51:54
  There's two really important encounters that I've had
• 51:58
  spiritually that I want to do share.
• 52:00
  But I just want to say this really quick.
• 52:02
  So recently I had there's a a prophetic he he does like.
• 52:12
  Like prayers and then God will give him, you know words of
• 52:14
  knowledge or or different things for people.
• 52:17
  And and there was one recently that he came in May and he he
• 52:25
  knows us like he knows my family and and he came and he he prayed
• 52:28
  over us and he had this word for me and he said he says wow he's
• 52:32
  like it seems that you've walked through very a lot of things so
• 52:36
  much has come against you and it almost seems to the to the place
• 52:40
  where it's unfair. And I just, like, started
• 52:43
  bawling because it's what he was saying, was it, it was true.
• 52:47
  And that's kind of when people give you, you know, and I've had
• 52:50
  a lot of people speak over, you know, different things.
• 52:52
  And the one thing that I always hold on to is if it's something
• 52:55
  that God is already speaking to you, something that, you know,
• 52:58
  that's kind of like your own personal confirmation that this
• 53:01
  is from the Lord. And now if it sits wrong with
• 53:03
  you because you're like, this doesn't feel right.
• 53:07
  Everything that people say to you, we should always take it to
• 53:09
  prayer. But that was something that you
• 53:12
  know and he says the Lord is going to give you so much and
• 53:17
  and so all of the suffering is for something and it was just
• 53:20
  kind and he said it. In other words, I mean he's from
• 53:23
  the UK so he has this like really nice accent and but it
• 53:27
  was just a confirmation to to what you even to what you just
• 53:30
  said now how there is a process like we have to be buried and
• 53:34
  that's kind of what you know then my dad passed away.
• 53:39
  Last November. So it's coming up on two years.
• 53:41
  So there was all of this death in the year 2021.
• 53:47
  I was just like why am I experiencing all of this death
• 53:50
  now? Like why are all these things
• 53:51
  happening And in 2020 is when the Lord, I mean this is where
• 53:56
  all the supernatural stuff comes into place.
• 53:58
  So my dad was was dying like as soon as he when he passed away.
• 54:03
  I I literally have I get things all the time now.
• 54:06
  I have more encounters. I have a lot of prophetic
• 54:09
  dreams. I have things.
• 54:11
  I have some dreams that that mean something and some that
• 54:14
  actually are for people. So I'm always praying, asking
• 54:18
  God to guide me if this is something I'm supposed to share,
• 54:20
  if this is something just for me.
• 54:23
  But in 2020 is where I kind of got into just listening to the
• 54:27
  Lord guided me to different podcasts, and yours was one of
• 54:30
  them. And so just.
• 54:31
  Listening to all of these, Oh my gosh.
• 54:33
  Like, I'm not alone. I'm not crazy.
• 54:36
  Like there's other people that have experienced or or or want
• 54:39
  to go deeper or have found more depth in the word.
• 54:42
  And because I believe that there's like these treasures
• 54:44
  that the Lord has in there, but it's for those who will seek him
• 54:49
  with all of their heart, right? He says, if you seek me with all
• 54:52
  of your heart, you you'll find me.
• 54:54
  And so it's like, those are the treasures hidden in the Bible.
• 54:57
  Not that they're, it's not that they're.
• 55:00
  I guess hidden might not be the right word.
• 55:02
  But what he wants us to go seek him so that he can trust us with
• 55:06
  these things, so that we can then go and and talk about it
• 55:10
  and you know give give the truth and give it a deeper depth.
• 55:15
  And so, so going back to Oh my goodness, I'm sorry, so there's.
• 55:20
  So I've mentored kids since I was a kid, and recently I've
• 55:25
  been at the church that we're at for 12 years now, and I've just
• 55:28
  going through the roller coaster of mentoring and leading a youth
• 55:33
  worship team is not for the fate of heart there was. 1.
• 55:38
  There was one. I mean, because I'm really
• 55:39
  trying to teach these kids look, worship is that is is supposed
• 55:43
  to be to God and for him. Not about us and not just we're
• 55:47
  not always supposed to just sing about the benefits in Christ.
• 55:49
  No, we've got to we don't even like sing for the people.
• 55:54
  Because I've learned, I mean I went to college for like
• 55:57
  performing arts and a lot of different things with that.
• 56:01
  And it's like you're taught that you're supposed to be like this.
• 56:04
  You're supposed to have this showmanship that you've got to
• 56:06
  have this, you've got to have this.
• 56:07
  You got to be this cookie cutter worship leader.
• 56:09
  And no, that's not what got. I mean think about one of the
• 56:12
  the most famous worship leader in the Bible was.
• 56:15
  Watching David and he danced recklessly.
• 56:17
  I mean he offended his wife the way that he danced in front of
• 56:21
  the Lord. And so and I I have a story
• 56:24
  where I actually, the Holy Spirit told me to put down my
• 56:27
  mind because I so I lead and I don't sing anymore in youth
• 56:31
  worship. I just kind of taking more of
• 56:34
  like a mentor seat and I let them carry it and I just kind of
• 56:36
  help and I encourage them. But I do sometimes lead in our
• 56:40
  main service maybe like once a month or so.
• 56:44
  And so I was leading it, the Lord told me, and this was like
• 56:48
  nothing. I premeditated this was, I had
• 56:50
  no idea I was actually struggling that day because the
• 56:53
  song I was given was not in my range and I was like, but the
• 56:57
  Lord is taking me through a process where he says don't
• 57:00
  worry, don't look at your preference, just be obedient.
• 57:03
  And so that's that's crazy because coming from a background
• 57:07
  of where everything, you know, just I.
• 57:11
  I trained for. I went to college and my voice
• 57:14
  teacher, the way that she trained me was through opera,
• 57:17
  Italian opera. And so when you're in that lane,
• 57:21
  everything is about sound, everything is about like your
• 57:23
  training and pitch and all this. And so when I'm given something
• 57:27
  where I'm like, OK, well, this is out of my range, how do I
• 57:29
  make it work? And so it was kind of like one
• 57:31
  of those sets on a Wednesday and all of a sudden I'm like in
• 57:35
  middle middle of the song and the Lord says put.
• 57:38
  Like I want you to worship me through your dance and I was
• 57:41
  like okay. So I actually tell the
• 57:45
  congregation the Lord wants us to worship him through our
• 57:48
  dance. So we're just going to let the
• 57:49
  music play and we're going to worship him through our dance.
• 57:52
  And I told them if you're if you're hesitant about that, if
• 57:56
  this is new for you, I encourage you to step out of your box and
• 57:58
  just clap. And I told them if you can't do
• 58:01
  anything else just clap and so. They responded well and they and
• 58:05
  they and so then I start you know dancing on stage and then I
• 58:09
  hear a voice inside of me say go put your mic down and run the
• 58:13
  room and I'm like Oh no, I'm like I don't think they're ready
• 58:16
  for that and so but I was obedient and I and and I saw one
• 58:22
  of my one of my youth girls there and she has her flags.
• 58:26
  I mean that's a whole other story because I recently, a few
• 58:29
  years ago. Years ago got baptized and then
• 58:31
  the Lord told me I want you to grab flags and go flag in your
• 58:35
  church. And I was like, whoa, my church
• 58:37
  is not ready for flags, like but I did and I didn't.
• 58:41
  I mean then later on the pastor said, yeah, you can flag on that
• 58:45
  side and but what was happening was God was using me to be that
• 58:51
  example of freedom. And now there's four girls in my
• 58:56
  church, younger girls that they do that, they go and they
• 58:59
  worship with flags in Maine and they do it in youth too.
• 59:02
  And so it's like what I see now is the Lord is using me because
• 59:05
  he knows that I that I'll obey him and he knows that I'm
• 59:08
  fearless and and he knows that when I'm in the spirit of the
• 59:11
  Lord, I will follow. And so yeah.
• 59:14
  So going back to that night I went, I ran the room.
• 59:18
  Most people were just kind of sending in their place and.
• 59:21
  I saw one of my other youth girls just dancing like in the
• 59:23
  aisles. And I was like, yes, but it was
• 59:25
  not even like phasing me that there wasn't a lot of people
• 59:29
  doing it because I was so much just so like I could feel the
• 59:33
  Holy Spirit just washing over me and I was just so excited and I
• 59:37
  just ran the whole church and I came back on stage out of breath
• 59:41
  because, I mean, I'm not, I'm not good anymore at.
• 59:47
  Running and singing or you know, age can do that to you.
• 59:50
  But you know I went up there and and I was just like, Lord, I
• 59:54
  will and I just cried and I was like, Lord, I will do whatever
• 59:57
  you ask me. Even if I'm the full, I'll be
• 59:59
  the full. And he knows that.
• 1:00:01
  And so he's asked me to do. I've done crazy things like that
• 1:00:03
  in church before I've, you know, but every time after I do it, I
• 1:00:08
  notice there, you know, I see now that there's there's a giant
• 1:00:13
  and that giant is religion and that giant is.
• 1:00:17
  Control. In 2020, the Lord gave me and my
• 1:00:20
  two teenage sons just visions and dreams about what was
• 1:00:25
  happening in our local church. And so I'm like, Oh my gosh,
• 1:00:28
  what do we do with this? But.
• 1:00:30
  My husband's like, well, we pray.
• 1:00:32
  He's like, we pray. And my husband's a whole other
• 1:00:35
  story because his dad, they're from Argentina.
• 1:00:37
  His dad had a demon deliverance ministry.
• 1:00:39
  I mean, there's a whole other stuff there.
• 1:00:42
  My husband is it. And so when the Lord started
• 1:00:44
  showing me, giving me a lot of prophetic things and encounters
• 1:00:47
  in 2020, I'm like, wait, this is not my gifting?
• 1:00:51
  That's what my husband like. My husband works in that, you
• 1:00:53
  know, the Lord gives him prophetic dreams, like.
• 1:00:56
  And so I was kind of like wrestling like.
• 1:00:58
  You know, am I crazy? Am I not.
• 1:01:00
  But just what was happening with the Lord was doing is he was
• 1:01:04
  building and and I have you know, dreams that go in like in
• 1:01:08
  line with with what he's doing. But I do want to get to these
• 1:01:11
  two encounters. So this one happened last year.
• 1:01:17
  Last year I was, you know, I had my flags.
• 1:01:22
  I was in the corner like on the side by the altar and.
• 1:01:27
  All of a sudden, and this is the very first time I had such a
• 1:01:30
  vivid vision. Normally I have like dreams, but
• 1:01:35
  the worship team was singing. I was, you know, worshipping
• 1:01:37
  there with flags on the on by the altar.
• 1:01:41
  And all of a sudden, like everything starts fading away,
• 1:01:45
  like the church is emptied and I start.
• 1:01:49
  Like the music that they're singing, the worship songs are
• 1:01:52
  kind of like fading away to. And it's just me there by
• 1:01:55
  myself. The whole church is empty and
• 1:01:58
  all of a sudden I look and straight ahead of me is a man.
• 1:02:02
  And this man has long hair and he's kind of like he's staring
• 1:02:08
  at me from the other side of I'm trying to explain it right.
• 1:02:12
  So I'm standing on one side of the church, he's on the other,
• 1:02:14
  but we're both next to the altar, so he's on clear on the
• 1:02:17
  other side. And he's just staring at me and
• 1:02:20
  he's mad. All of a sudden he gets into
• 1:02:24
  this position, he's getting ready to run fast towards me.
• 1:02:29
  And so he looks at me and and he starts running, but it's in slow
• 1:02:33
  motion and I'm like, OK, so first I'm, I'm freaking out
• 1:02:38
  because I've never had a vision like this where I'm it's like
• 1:02:41
  vivid and I'm in it, but I'm awake and my eyes are open.
• 1:02:45
  And so he comes straight towards me and and his hair is waving in
• 1:02:50
  the wind and he's coming. He's charging at me.
• 1:02:54
  And so the first thing I do is I start praying and I'm like, I
• 1:02:57
  just start singing out and I sing You can't touch me.
• 1:03:02
  You can't touch me because I'm marked by the king.
• 1:03:05
  He hides me in the shadow of his wings.
• 1:03:08
  And I sing this melody that just comes out of me.
• 1:03:11
  And as I sing, I'm waving the flags around me.
• 1:03:15
  And he gets really close and then he just disappears.
• 1:03:20
  And so everything comes back slowly.
• 1:03:23
  The people, I see people again. There's like, I can hear the
• 1:03:26
  worship, it's going. And then a few seconds later he
• 1:03:32
  comes back and he's standing right in front of me.
• 1:03:35
  But he tries to touch me. And there's like this it almost
• 1:03:39
  there's like a barrier, like a bubble, and he tries to reach.
• 1:03:44
  And he can't. And he gets mad and he
• 1:03:47
  disappears. And so I open my eyes and and
• 1:03:53
  now like, they're praying because worship is over.
• 1:03:56
  And I look up and I see him sitting in the second queue and
• 1:04:01
  we make eye contact. It was a pretty heavy encounter.
• 1:04:08
  And this happened like in my church, in broad daylight, like,
• 1:04:12
  and it was just like. What it what I felt was the Lord
• 1:04:16
  was saying, see, I'm protecting you.
• 1:04:17
  Your words, your worship, and your words have power, and we're
• 1:04:23
  taught that as Christians. But to actually have an
• 1:04:27
  encounter where I'm experiencing what I'm saying is it's
• 1:04:30
  happening. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:32
  It's it's he's putting that shield around me.
• 1:04:36
  There's so much like. Goes on behind the scenes like
• 1:04:39
  different ministries that I work with like just underground stuff
• 1:04:43
  and just that there's a lot of the enemy is not prepared for
• 1:04:50
  the hit he's going to take first of all.
• 1:04:53
  And there's no backup plan that the Kingdom of Darkness has for
• 1:04:57
  what God is developing. But but they think that they
• 1:05:00
  have an offense. But just from hearing that, it
• 1:05:03
  makes me think of like. OK, nobody throws stone at me
• 1:05:06
  here. I'm going to use a word.
• 1:05:08
  It's going to be a trigger word for some of you as listeners.
• 1:05:10
  But this astral plane, this lower heaven dimension that
• 1:05:14
  we're in, if we're tuned into the Spirit and we're available
• 1:05:19
  for what God wants to show us, He's going to show you
• 1:05:21
  something. If we have an experience that I
• 1:05:24
  don't know what to say to you. I personally experienced dozens
• 1:05:27
  and dozens of things like what you just said.
• 1:05:29
  And that is important because God was giving you a vision into
• 1:05:32
  the spiritual realm. He was showing you because a lot
• 1:05:35
  of times people think witchcraft is like, I have a pointy hat on
• 1:05:38
  and I got a stick and I'm stewing a pot, right?
• 1:05:40
  But the Bible says witchcraft is a spirit of rebellion.
• 1:05:44
  You're in rebellion of God's order.
• 1:05:46
  You're in rebellion of what God's word says.
• 1:05:48
  So there's no order. There's a rejection of what the
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  word says. There's a rejection of the
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  natural flow of gifts. They despise prophecy and in
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  certain, and I'm not pointing out one church.
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  So don't get this twisted. This is universal.
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  This is across the board. There's a lot of people becoming
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  more aware of this, and we're counteracting it by going into a
• 1:06:08
  deeper personal relationship with Christ, right?
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  Because we don't want to go start writing books about what
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  everybody's doing wrong. We actually want to say, OK,
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  God, if you're showing me that this is an error and this is
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  wrong, this is a high time, a high calling for me with fear
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  and trembling to workout my salvation with you.
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  Father got in to go deeper with you because he's obviously
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  preparing. Table for us in the presence of
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  many enemies and and we we trust him for an overflow.
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  It takes all the weight off of your shoulders.
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  When you guys just get into the word you start to trust God and
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  you start to focus on him. But I believe you were seeing
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  into the spirit world, right? I believe you were seeing
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  somebody who had a heart of rebellion.
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  They were a closed and locked gate.
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  Their gate was not open to they're not malleable to the
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  Holy Spirit. Whoever this individual is right
• 1:06:54
  and this person was not. In order with what God was
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  trying to do. And I think that as our light
• 1:07:01
  shines bright, the enemy can see our light most of the time
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  before we can see that there's darkness close by.
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  Wow, that's so good. Yes, it it really is.
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  And I do want to share, I mean that, yeah, this is these are
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  things that happen now like very often.
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  And so it's that was kind of one of the heavier ones and.
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  There are some others, but the one that I want that I would
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  love to get to because it does go with just the music ministry
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  and and the mentorship and all of that that the Lord is
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  building is these came in 2021 where it was right after so my
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  church they they. Let me do this kind of Easter
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  thing that the Lord gave me. It's a vision about and it's
• 1:07:52
  kind of like the relationship with Jesus and Bravas.
• 1:07:55
  And so we do like, it got bigger and bigger like every year
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  because I'm like, OK, well, we could do this now.
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  We can do this now. We have a bigger team.
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  And you know, working with a big team and putting like kind of a
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  musical together is a lot of work because there's a lot of
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  personal things that, you know, people have issues.
• 1:08:12
  There's just a lot of communication.
• 1:08:14
  And it's just like the Lord has really showed me what it.
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  Takes. But he's shown me that I had
• 1:08:19
  that he's put it in me and how to like kind of like work like
• 1:08:23
  work with people that are very different and how to have grace
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  and how to have grace for myself.
• 1:08:30
  So I bring this up because it it goes with the next thing I want
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  to share quickly. So the Lord really put in my
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  heart to just make a place. Everywhere that that he leaves
• 1:08:46
  me, a place where people that have these gifts can use them
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  for his glory. And in it was in 2021, right
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  after I had done this Good Friday production, I had a dream
• 1:08:59
  that same night that I was standing on a stage and this was
• 1:09:03
  like a theater. And I was in a theater and there
• 1:09:06
  was this young girl, and she was dressed very fancy, almost
• 1:09:10
  looked like a 1920s look, like a flapper look with like a feather
• 1:09:14
  in her hair. And she was acting.
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  And she turns around. I'm standing backstage and she
• 1:09:19
  turns around and looks at me because she was like performing.
• 1:09:21
  And she says, you can have fame, fortune and anything that you
• 1:09:27
  dream of if you follow my master.
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  And I was like, no. In the dream I knew who she was
• 1:09:35
  representing and I told her I said no.
• 1:09:38
  I said I only served one master and his name is Jesus.
• 1:09:40
  You know, I served the one true creator.
• 1:09:43
  And it's like after I gave my response, she then changed and
• 1:09:48
  she looked like this really pale girl with long black hair.
• 1:09:52
  And she pounced on me like she jumped on my on my chest and she
• 1:09:56
  says, well now I'm going to kill you.
• 1:09:59
  And she says I'm going to kill you just like I killed all these
• 1:10:02
  other worship leaders. And as it's almost like she was
• 1:10:04
  showing me pictures in her mind, in my mind and I saw all these
• 1:10:08
  pictures of her chasing and like devouring people and and she's
• 1:10:14
  like I killed them and I'm going to kill you and and so she
• 1:10:18
  starts chasing me in my dream I have there's I don't I have my
• 1:10:23
  sons with me and there's a youth and we're all running and she's
• 1:10:26
  chasing and I remember. We weren't scared, but we were
• 1:10:31
  running still, but we weren't scared of her.
• 1:10:34
  And so I woke up and I was like, wow, this is wild.
• 1:10:38
  And then I have another another dream months later where I'm
• 1:10:44
  walking up a hill and it's kind of like, so it's like the top of
• 1:10:50
  the mountain. It's like it's a, it's a there's
• 1:10:52
  like this almost like a crater. And as I walked up, I saw people
• 1:10:56
  with all. With lawn chairs, almost like
• 1:10:59
  they were looking at something. There was like a show happening
• 1:11:06
  and they were all with their lawn chairs.
• 1:11:08
  There was like kids of all ages. It was families and they were
• 1:11:11
  just watching and they had like snacks that they were eating.
• 1:11:14
  And so as I get closer to the top, I look and in this, in this
• 1:11:19
  valley, it's a valley of bones. It is a valley and some of the
• 1:11:24
  bones still had flesh on them and it was just and I was like
• 1:11:28
  it was a lot for me to see but it's but the Lord will show me
• 1:11:32
  I'll have these dreams where they're very detailed but he
• 1:11:36
  like it's almost like where I only see just enough to get the
• 1:11:40
  point So it's not like gruesome or I it's not too much for me to
• 1:11:45
  handle. So this was one of those dreams
• 1:11:47
  and I see like bones and I see flesh and and it's like they're
• 1:11:51
  they're just there in this big valley and all of a sudden as I
• 1:11:55
  get closer to the top, I see, I'm trying to describe it.
• 1:11:59
  It's like us if you've ever seen where there's a lake and and
• 1:12:06
  people like have a rope that they swing on and there's like a
• 1:12:10
  place for their feet. So it's kind of like a wood with
• 1:12:12
  like hanging from a tree and it swings.
• 1:12:15
  Well, all of a sudden I see a long line of young people and
• 1:12:22
  there there's a booth at the very end and there's a man and a
• 1:12:26
  woman. And these people, these young
• 1:12:29
  people are are signing a contract and they get on this on
• 1:12:35
  this ledge where they're holding on to the rope and it's the man
• 1:12:38
  and the woman push these, these youth and.
• 1:12:43
  They are scared. And as soon as they swing over
• 1:12:46
  the Valley of Bones, they fall and their bodies dismember as
• 1:12:52
  they fall into the Valley of Bones.
• 1:12:55
  And so I get closer and and it's like nobody can see, like the
• 1:13:00
  people that are surrounding this, this big crater of bones
• 1:13:03
  are, they're just watching and entertainment.
• 1:13:07
  They're not scared. They're not horrified.
• 1:13:08
  They're just watching and entertainment.
• 1:13:10
  And so I get over and I'm, I see this young man and I'm like,
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  don't go there, don't sign that contract because they're
• 1:13:18
  promising you all of these things.
• 1:13:20
  But as soon as you get that rope, you're going to die.
• 1:13:22
  You're going to die. And I I remember looking at his
• 1:13:26
  face and it's like he couldn't see me.
• 1:13:28
  He was like in a daze. He was like in some kind of.
• 1:13:35
  I'm trying to think for the word like some kind of programming
• 1:13:40
  and it's like he's, he's confused.
• 1:13:42
  He's not. It's like he's hypnotized and so
• 1:13:46
  this keeps happening and and I'm just like, I'm desperate because
• 1:13:50
  nobody can hear me and nobody can see me.
• 1:13:52
  And these people are literally signing their lives away and
• 1:13:55
  they're they're going to death. They're they're signing away
• 1:13:59
  their soul and it's like. In the dream I was even thinking
• 1:14:03
  like wow, this is the entertainment industry right
• 1:14:06
  now. Like this is what's happening.
• 1:14:08
  People are are being promised all of these things.
• 1:14:10
  But what happens when you step into that?
• 1:14:13
  And I'm not saying that everybody that's in it is, you
• 1:14:16
  know, she chooses death. But it's like whenever we choose
• 1:14:20
  ourselves over over Jesus, we are choosing to die to this, to
• 1:14:24
  the world. But we're not choosing to die,
• 1:14:27
  you know, to our like, we're choosing our our flesh, the
• 1:14:30
  desires over. What, you know, our assignment,
• 1:14:34
  our heavenly assignment. And that road is the wide one
• 1:14:38
  that leads to death and destruction.
• 1:14:40
  And so as the dream carries on, I run into the town because I'm
• 1:14:44
  just like desperate at this point looking for somebody.
• 1:14:47
  And I see my sisterinlaw. And I told her I'm like, she's
• 1:14:51
  like, oh, we're going to go meet our families to to have dinner
• 1:14:55
  at this Mexican restaurant. And I mean it didn't make this
• 1:14:58
  part doesn't make sense. I don't know.
• 1:15:00
  But so I told her, OK, we'll let's go And she and then I tell
• 1:15:04
  her, I said there's somebody following us and she's like, no.
• 1:15:07
  And I'm like, yeah, there's somebody following us.
• 1:15:09
  We have to walk faster. So we walk.
• 1:15:11
  She kind of hesitantly walks faster with me.
• 1:15:14
  And then I tell her I'm like, we have to run.
• 1:15:17
  And so I kind of pull her along and she still doesn't like
• 1:15:20
  hesitant, like she doesn't know what's going on and and so.
• 1:15:24
  We run and we're right into. We're right in the Plaza where
• 1:15:29
  the Mexican restaurant is. And as we're walking in, I turn
• 1:15:34
  because I can feel a presence behind me.
• 1:15:36
  I turn and I see this man. And let me pause real quick
• 1:15:41
  here. I think this is a hat man, but I
• 1:15:44
  don't know. I've heard different people have
• 1:15:46
  different encounters with different ways that they see
• 1:15:50
  him, but I turn around and he has a top hat.
• 1:15:55
  And he smiles at me and he's wearing like a a three piece
• 1:16:00
  suit, but he's not wearing the jacket.
• 1:16:02
  He just has the the slacks, the vest and a white crisp
• 1:16:07
  undershirt. And his sleeves are, the sleeves
• 1:16:09
  are rolled up and the color of the suit was like a tannish,
• 1:16:13
  like a beige color and it was silky.
• 1:16:15
  And so he's, he grins and he's and he's touching his top hat
• 1:16:19
  and so he he tips his hat at me and like.
• 1:16:24
  Bows and then he puts his hat back on and he pulls 1/4 out of
• 1:16:30
  his pocket and he he throws the quarter up in the air and I can
• 1:16:35
  see it coming down in slow motion as it's like coming back.
• 1:16:39
  And you know as he's catching it as he puts his hand out to catch
• 1:16:43
  it, I see the coin just like spinning in the air slowly and
• 1:16:47
  so he grabs, he grabs it and its heads and.
• 1:16:53
  I see that it's heads. And he now he positions himself
• 1:16:56
  like if he's throwing a bowling ball and he throws that quarter
• 1:16:59
  on the floor and he's aiming it towards me and we're running.
• 1:17:04
  So I push my sisterinlaw into the restaurant 1st and and then
• 1:17:08
  I'm running and that quarter hits the heel of my foot, of my
• 1:17:12
  right foot as I'm running and then I wake up.
• 1:17:15
  But as I'm as I'm in the middle of waking up, I'm yelling my
• 1:17:19
  husband's name and I yell it like five times.
• 1:17:22
  And then I wake up. There's another part of this
• 1:17:26
  that actually something happens in relation to this in real
• 1:17:30
  life, but I don't know if we have time to go into that.
• 1:17:34
  Wow. Well, I.
• 1:17:41
  I want to hear the other part of it and then we're gonna do a
• 1:17:45
  hard stop. So let's let's shoot for like
• 1:17:47
  like a 5 minute window at this point.
• 1:17:49
  But yeah, I don't want the cliffhanger.
• 1:17:51
  I know the audience is not gonna.
• 1:17:53
  I mean, it might be a good idea to leave the cliffhanger with
• 1:17:56
  the audience and I get to hear it on air and they have to wait
• 1:18:00
  until you come back. You you, you have full control
• 1:18:04
  of this and you let me know how you want to spin this.
• 1:18:07
  But I mean, this is like what I've shared is not even.
• 1:18:10
  I mean there is so much stuff and we.
• 1:18:14
  Can tell yeah, we're definitely going to have you back for Part
• 1:18:17
  2. So actually what we're going to
• 1:18:18
  do is we're going to we're going to clip this and and leave a
• 1:18:20
  cliffhanger for the audience. And I'm going to get to hear the
• 1:18:24
  rest of the story as we go off air here in a minute.
• 1:18:30
  But I just want to say you're a blessing just because the church
• 1:18:34
  or the body of Christ, they're we're waking up.
• 1:18:39
  And we're all over the place. We're all over the the globe,
• 1:18:43
  diversity of of gifts, different languages, tribes, tongues.
• 1:18:47
  And. And we're going to continue to
• 1:18:49
  get this right as we move closer to the one name that is given
• 1:18:54
  under heaven by which we may be saved.
• 1:18:56
  Christ Jesus, Yeshua Ha Mashiya, great, the Lamb of God.
• 1:19:00
  So hearing your story and us putting this out there on on
• 1:19:04
  air, I'm hoping it encourages and wakes more people up.
• 1:19:08
  Do not bow down or be afraid of the spirit of religion that is
• 1:19:12
  out there. Do not bow down to the
• 1:19:13
  denominational preferences. Now in meekness and in humility
• 1:19:17
  and gentleness do we counter that which is not of God.
• 1:19:21
  But there also is a time where we got to get a little bit
• 1:19:23
  ghetto with the devil and we just got to be like, you ain't
• 1:19:26
  doing this anymore. This is not actually how this
• 1:19:28
  goes down moving forward, because now a son of God is on
• 1:19:31
  the scene and if they don't like it, you can take it up with my
• 1:19:36
  father. Exactly.
• 1:19:38
  But listen, it's an honor. Honor.
• 1:19:40
  Give us some closing words for the audience here.
• 1:19:42
  And then we're not gonna go anywhere.
• 1:19:44
  Because I'm gonna finish this story, but we're gonna leave the
• 1:19:46
  cliffhanger for them. Perfect.
• 1:19:48
  Well, I just, I mean with everything that I've shared, I
• 1:19:51
  mean there is so much, there is so much out there.
• 1:19:56
  That the enemy will try and entice us with and he will try
• 1:19:59
  and and a lot of it, you know the battles are in our minds and
• 1:20:04
  those that is where the battle starts because it's a thought
• 1:20:07
  and sometimes it's a thought in our own voice but it's not us
• 1:20:11
  and the way that we that we differentiate.
• 1:20:14
  OK, is knowing the Bible, the word of truth.
• 1:20:17
  That is how we can say that is not how my father speaks of me.
• 1:20:20
  And so we don't have to partner with what the enemy is feeding
• 1:20:24
  us and that's how we stop. Him from, you know, opening
• 1:20:27
  doors in our lives where we get into these cycles and and you
• 1:20:31
  can cycle, you can go up and cycle up with the Lord or you
• 1:20:36
  can, you know, go go through those cycles and get and get
• 1:20:39
  deeper. And so as we are given tools, as
• 1:20:44
  we hear people's testimonies, as we hear, you know, just even at
• 1:20:48
  our local church the tools that were given.
• 1:20:51
  To fight is what will lead us to completing, fulfilling our
• 1:20:55
  destiny because we all have a purpose we all like.
• 1:20:58
  It doesn't matter if you don't have a platform it doesn't
• 1:21:01
  because not everybody you know, it's just like you said, Rod,
• 1:21:04
  how in in my world I'm I'm being impacted like I'm being an
• 1:21:09
  impact in my city I'm being an impact.
• 1:21:11
  And you know a lot of these youth that I've that I've helped
• 1:21:15
  that. I've even grown with some of
• 1:21:17
  them. You know, they have gone out to
• 1:21:19
  Waiwam. They've gone out to these
• 1:21:21
  ministry schools to get further equipped because they have this
• 1:21:25
  desire to to bring worship. But to bring that radical
• 1:21:28
  worship that breaks down barriers, that breaks down the
• 1:21:32
  spirit of religion and brings freedom because that is what the
• 1:21:36
  enemy wants, to hold us in captivity.
• 1:21:38
  So we're not free because when we're free, that's when it's
• 1:21:41
  like go time and and the Lord can just.
• 1:21:44
  Completely fill us up and empower us to do his will.
• 1:21:48
  And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there's freedom.
• 1:21:51
  Amen. So this has been an amazing,
• 1:21:54
  wild, roller coaster, emotional episode just for me, listening
• 1:21:57
  to your story, we're going to schedule something before the
• 1:22:00
  end of summer. You are going to come back,
• 1:22:03
  We're going to hit on some more points.
• 1:22:05
  And it was an honor to have you here on this episode with me, so
• 1:22:09
  thank you. Thank you so much.
• 1:22:12
  I'm. I'm just blessed to have met you
• 1:22:15
  and be part of this amazing ministry at Millennial Mustard
• 1:22:19
  Seed. Well, that's it.
• 1:22:21
  That's the show, everybody. I know this one.
• 1:22:24
  Is going to resonate. So you need to pass this episode
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  along. I want you to share it with your
• 1:22:29
  pastor. I want you to share it with your
• 1:22:31
  friends, family members, your coworkers.
• 1:22:33
  Just pass this episode along because there are people out
• 1:22:37
  there that need to hear this coming to you from southeastern
• 1:22:43
  Pennsylvania. Goodbye.
• 1:23:23
  Yeah, this is boy. Hey, Brandon, thank you for
• 1:23:26
  tuning into the Millennial Mustard Seat, my favorite
• 1:23:29
  podcast.