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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: "Everything Changed When Mitchell Went Out" · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, welcome back to Inside the Tape on Inside the Birds.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher. I've got Adam Kaplan with me. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, we've got Greg Cosell to continue to break
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  Speaker 1: down the tape of an Eagles 24-20 loss to the
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  Speaker 1: Rams on Sunday in Week 4. In the last episode,
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  Speaker 1: we went through the offense. Now, Greg, we've got to
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  Speaker 1: sift through the carnage of a defense that finally... finally
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  Speaker 1: produced some takeaways, kind of carried the offense on its
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  Speaker 1: back for about two and a half, three quarters. And
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  Speaker 1: then when it came down to it at the end there,
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  Speaker 1: they just A, ran out of bodies at important positions
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  Speaker 1: and then ran out of some gas. But what was
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  Speaker 1: your overall impression of the defense for most of the
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  Speaker 1: game until that last stretch there?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Believe it or not, I thought that for me, everything
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  Speaker 3: changed to some extent when Mitchell went out.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the first play of the second half.
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  Speaker 3: And then it was just a few plays later when
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  Speaker 3: Devontae Adams just beat Jones when they were playing cover
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  Speaker 3: one and Stafford just overthrew him. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: scared Vic. I think Vic felt like, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much cover one I can play.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're going to have to play some zone because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they play right and left corner because, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Wolin's the left corner, Mitchell's the right corner. So when
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  Speaker 3: Jones came in, and Jones is only about 5'10, And
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  Speaker 3: now you're dealing with big wide receivers on the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that that play, I think it was
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  Speaker 3: on the first possession of the third quarter. And, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's in Vic's head, but that was
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  Speaker 3: my sense watching the tape. I feel like everything changed
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  Speaker 3: after that. It became almost all zone, um, four man
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  Speaker 3: pass rush, you know, hardly any, even, even, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously there was some SIM pressures and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: those SIM pressures were geared up the middle. I think
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  Speaker 3: it was three or four times in the game that
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  Speaker 3: they had both, um, both linebackers, Trotter and Campbell, you know,
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  Speaker 3: be double-A gap guys, and they would drop out both ends.
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  Speaker 3: So they were sim pressures, meaning four-man rushes. But I
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  Speaker 3: almost felt like it was the second half that really
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  Speaker 3: was told the tale because I think he changed up
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  Speaker 3: the way he would have played if Mitchell had not
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  Speaker 3: gotten hurt.
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  Speaker 1: So Adam and I started texting each other when Mitchell
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  Speaker 1: came out. Watch how fast they start challenging– Jonathan Jones
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  Speaker 1: and what was it four straight plays and then they
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  Speaker 1: probably should have hit on a touchdown if Stafford doesn't
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  Speaker 1: overthrow it just a little bit I mean they really
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  Speaker 1: went after.
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  Speaker 3: Him yeah that was that was third and five on
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  Speaker 3: their first third quarter possession he easily beat Jones on
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  Speaker 3: a stutter fade but Stafford just overthrew him I mean
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  Speaker 3: and I that's where I thought you know Vic kind
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  Speaker 3: of said whoa uh you know I'm not sure I
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  Speaker 3: want to be playing much man coverage.
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  Speaker 4: Greg their pass rush to me still is a problem.
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  Speaker 5: I know they discipline the first half, but do you
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  Speaker 5: just sense like, and then Gronar got hurt, you know, before.
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  Speaker 4: He got hurt, at least seemed like he was starting
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  Speaker 4: to get home a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: What did he hurt in the game?
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Did Gronar get hurt in the game?
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  Speaker 4: He hurt his ankle. I don't think he played the
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  Speaker 4: second half. I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 2: He only played 19 snaps. You're right.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't play in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: So they don't really have a pass rush. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: once again, And again, I don't know if he still
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  Speaker 3: is battling injuries, but it's irrelevant.
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  Speaker 2: He's playing. But Jalen Carter is having a hard time
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  Speaker 2: winning one-on-one against offensive guards right now.
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  Speaker 4: With the wrap on his wrist.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm watching.
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  Speaker 3: Before we started doing this, I'm finishing up watching the
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  Speaker 3: 49ers offense versus the Broncos defense. And I can tell
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  Speaker 3: you just watching the tape that right now Jalen Carter
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  Speaker 3: is not even in the same conversation with Zach Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Not even in the same conversation. Yeah. The way they're
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  Speaker 2: playing right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I think we saw another return of Moro Ajomo
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  Speaker 1: getting so many more snaps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I made a note of that.
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  Speaker 3: As you guys saw, you know, look again, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a rip. We're not ripping anybody, but they're telling us, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, we don't have to, Adam knows this.
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  Speaker 3: They tell you what they think, but Jomo played 60
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  Speaker 3: snaps and Davis played 29 snaps. So, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: paid Davis a lot of money. I don't think they
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  Speaker 3: paid him a lot of money to play 29 snaps.
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  Speaker 3: And all three of us know they can't sign a
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  Speaker 3: Jomo because they just signed Davis and Carter. You can't
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  Speaker 3: pay three defensive tackles big, big dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It didn't stand out to me that
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis was not impressive in training camp. It's always
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  Speaker 1: hard to tell. They don't run enough sometimes for you
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  Speaker 1: to really see. But I thought when they did, he
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  Speaker 1: was always there. I noted a couple of times in
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  Speaker 1: my notebook, getting a hand on Barkley or getting into
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  Speaker 1: the backfield. I don't know where it changed.
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  Speaker 2: He's a good run defender. That's not the point.
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  Speaker 3: He's a very good run defender. I mean, we're not,
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  Speaker 3: it's not no knock on Jordan Davis. He is what
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  Speaker 3: he is right now. He's a very good run defender,
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  Speaker 3: but he never plays, never is too strong. Almost never
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  Speaker 3: plays in these past situations.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: And Greg, it surprised me because you never really quite
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  Speaker 5: know what a team's going to do. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if, some of the defensive injuries for the Eagles
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  Speaker 5: made them change their mind, but they played so much
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  Speaker 5: 11 personnel and they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I know the Rams played one snap of 13 personnel
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  Speaker 3: the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: How crazy is that?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 5: See, I saw Mumford played a lot. He got hurt
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  Speaker 5: and then came back in. And Whittington's a kid that's
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  Speaker 5: been there for a couple of years.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: He played over 40 snaps, Whittington.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't believe how much 11 played. See, you just
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  Speaker 4: don't know. And I give Sean McVay credit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You change what you, you could do it as you
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  Speaker 4: go along. You could change. You also coached to their
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  Speaker 4: in-game injuries that Philly had.
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  Speaker 5: I thought, Jeff, as I sent it back to you,
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  Speaker 5: I thought Sean McVay, second half of the game, and
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  Speaker 5: once Stafford started to get accurate, he's got some pressure
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  Speaker 5: on him. I think Sean started feeling it, and so
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  Speaker 5: has Stafford. And they could not get to Stafford in
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  Speaker 5: the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting because we noted last week that
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  Speaker 1: even the Bears played more 11 personnel than they ordinarily do.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't more than their 12, but it was a
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  Speaker 1: higher percentage. So teams clearly want staff. the Eagles to
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  Speaker 1: be in nickel now, which makes, I mean, we can
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  Speaker 1: make a deduction. Maybe they want Jordan Davis to be
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  Speaker 1: off the field. I don't know why, because Mario Jomo
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  Speaker 1: is their nickel pass rusher, and he's been really good.
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  Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, they're finding that they can quit
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  Speaker 1: game and have success against the Eagles in nickel.
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  Speaker 3: I would bet, and I think the tape shows this,
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  Speaker 3: I would bet that people are also seeing that through
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  Speaker 3: the early part of the season, Cooper Dujene hasn't played
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  Speaker 3: at the same level that he has the last two years.
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  Speaker 2: I would bet people are noticing that. The tape tells you.
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  Speaker 2: We're not making this stuff up. The tape tells you.
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  Speaker 1: How about Jeremiah Trotter, Greg? What did the tape show
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  Speaker 1: on his first start?
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  Speaker 3: He's a very good run defender, and he was in college.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's a physical presence to him, even though
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  Speaker 3: he's not tall, but there's a physical presence to the
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  Speaker 3: way in which he plays. He uses his hands well.
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  Speaker 3: He's a stack-and-shed guy. I mean, that's what he is.
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  Speaker 2: He's good at that. He's a good run defender.
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  Speaker 1: Did he, did, because I'm only asking, I can't tell, did,
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  Speaker 1: obviously Kyron Williams caught a ton of passes out of
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  Speaker 1: the backfield. They moved the ball over the middle quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit. Did you see?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they played a ton of zone.
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  Speaker 3: That zone stuff where you're, you're rallying up to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to tackle after he catches the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So this was not a Jeremiah Trotter got exploited
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  Speaker 1: in coverage type thing.
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  Speaker 2: No, no. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. It's going to be an interesting conversation. How'd
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  Speaker 1: you feel about John Campbell, the way he played?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Jihad Campbell is the guy they used at times,
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  Speaker 3: you know, as, as sort of the zone match guy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and, um, yeah, I always struggle when a guy,
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  Speaker 3: you know, let's say, and he got quote unquote beat
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  Speaker 3: a couple of times, but it's not true, man. It's
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  Speaker 3: more of his own match. You know, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: he got beat on, on a, um, uh, a wheel
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  Speaker 3: route by Higby, but so did Hunt. They ran that
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  Speaker 3: play like three times in the game, you know? And
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so, you know, um, The crazy thing about
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  Speaker 3: Campbell is for all his athleticism, and again, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not in their meeting, so I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: they're expecting him to do, but he doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 3: an impact player in the context of their defense. I
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  Speaker 3: think you guys would agree with that. He doesn't seem
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  Speaker 3: like an impact. Like here, I'll give you an example.
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  Speaker 3: I've watched a Giants defense, you know, and Arvel Reese
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  Speaker 3: is a stack backer too.
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  Speaker 2: He freaking has an impact on the game. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you see it. I mean, he has an impact on
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  Speaker 2: the game. Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Campbell and, and, and they're about the same size, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, those guys, you know, and, and they're both
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  Speaker 3: very good athletes, you know, you could nitpick as to
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  Speaker 3: who's better, you know, but you watch the Giants defense
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  Speaker 3: and you come away going, Arvo Reese.
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  Speaker 2: Is, he's, he's out there, man. You see him.
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  Speaker 3: Campbell, you know, I don't feel like he's come away
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  Speaker 3: watching Eagles defense and you feel like, Hey, Campbell, man,
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  Speaker 3: he was, he was out there doing stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Um, I know that there's a big push. Adam's probably
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  Speaker 1: seen it too. Everybody wants now Trotter to start over
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  Speaker 1: Campbell when Vaughn gets back. I mean, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: give this thing, I would imagine. Did you see any
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  Speaker 1: reduction in normal snaps for Campbell? No.
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  Speaker 2: Campbell played every snap but five.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so then they're still giving him every opportunity. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: with Vaughn out, they were going to do that anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Trotter played every snap.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trotter played every snap. And I guess I would ask,
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  Speaker 1: you made an observation I want you to explain a
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  Speaker 1: little bit before we take a look at it. on
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  Speaker 1: Jalex Hunt and how they used him?
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  Speaker 2: A couple of times they had him as a stack backer.
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  Speaker 3: When Campbell was not in the game. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I just made me think it was only a couple
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  Speaker 3: of times. It was in the first half.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But they obviously did that for a reason.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't, you know, Vic didn't just pull that out
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  Speaker 3: of his you-know-what and say, okay, let's try that. So
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  Speaker 3: it just made me think, you know, is that something
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  Speaker 3: they would consider going forward?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't want to put it out there as, oh,
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  Speaker 3: Cosell thinks that Campbell's going to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. They just did it twice. It just
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  Speaker 2: I just made me think, why did they do it?
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  Speaker 2: You never know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Let me try something.
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  Speaker 1: It could be, you're just trying to confuse the offense
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  Speaker 1: or you're just trying to experiment. I agree. Until we
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  Speaker 1: see more of it or get it, maybe I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: if someone will ask Vic about it and he'll give
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  Speaker 1: an explanation. All right, let's take a look at some
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  Speaker 1: of the things that the Eagles defense did in the game.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start off with, uh, their first turnover of the year, Greg.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought this was a nice example of the
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  Speaker 1: pressure and then the turnover creation because Grenard got some pressure,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, on this play. And this leads to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to remember this play.
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  Speaker 1: So the Rams are under center. It looked like– Oh, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a five– okay, they showed a five-man reduced front
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  Speaker 3: at a nickel. Campbell lined up on the ball on
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  Speaker 3: the edge. They played cover one here. This was cover one.
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  Speaker 3: And Makuba was the post safety. And they're playing– like
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  Speaker 3: I said, this is cover one.
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  Speaker 2: They're playing man. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Seems like the big play here is Grenard getting that
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  Speaker 1: interior pressure.
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  Speaker 4: On Davis Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Go back just a little. Sure. Go back. I just
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  Speaker 2: want to see something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what they did here, which, you know, again,
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  Speaker 3: they chose to do this, is they have Allen block him,
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  Speaker 3: and then they have the back come and help. And
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  Speaker 3: some teams do this because they figure it's a double. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if the edge rusher wins right away, you're
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  Speaker 3: in recovery mode right away, and he wins right away.
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  Speaker 2: So now his speed, Jeff, I think it's Kyron Williams.
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  Speaker 2: He's in a tough spot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't expect him to, to now all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, stop Grenard and Grenard just
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  Speaker 3: shows him away.
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  Speaker 5: His first step, Greg is really good.
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  Speaker 2: Grenard is really good. And then Grenard.
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  Speaker 3: And then of course, Stafford, you know, probably feels that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and, and throws it a little before he
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: had the definition and, and overthrows it, and McCuba does
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: what a good post safety should do, reacts to the
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: throw and makes a play.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That, to me, Adam, was probably maybe the first
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: or second real example since Crenar came back of that
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: instant for that quick pressure. They talk about quick pressure, right?
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Time to throw, impacting it, and, of course, that made it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: He cuts inside.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: It's just beautiful.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: All right, look what we got here, Greg, at Stack Linebacker.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. It's stacked backer.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is maybe the first of those two.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I think this was third and nine in the first
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: quarter here.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, they did this twice, so I
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: don't want it to be, you know, one of those.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: You know, this was a fight, and they turned out to,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: you know, Grenard and Smith are the edge rushers. Campbell
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: was not in the game. They went with a five-man pressure,
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: and they did a stunt. Hunt, even though he's a
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: second-level player, he was the picker, and Carter was the
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: looper and an inside stunt concept here.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: See, so they used him as a blitzer, right? It's
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: not like they turned him into a stackbacker. He lined
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: up as a stackbacker. So it might have just been
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a different blitz package.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Might have just been a different look.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: You know, again, that's why I said I don't want
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: people to think I'm advocating anything.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I just noticed it watching the tape. Right.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything schematically beautiful for you
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: to break down, but this is the second turnover that
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Eagles create.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, is this the interception by Dejean? Yeah. Yeah, this
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: is where they get it. You know, he leaves the pocket.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: And he tries to hit, I think, Nakua, you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: coming back on running, you know, inside.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: And he just makes a bad throw.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Right. I think what stood out to me a little
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: bit on this, if we go back, is that normally
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: we say pressure creates turnovers. But Stafford bounced around the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: pocket here. But I thought the Eagles were actually giving
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: him too much time.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: This was late in the first half, I believe, too.
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: They try a stunt there. What's that? That's Nolan Smith
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: and Carter.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. His right side.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: And the Rams had that blocked up fairly well for Stafford,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: who typically gets rid of the ball quickly.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, these are deeper routes just because of
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the situation in the game.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: And he tried to hit Nakua, you know, crossing back
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: into the middle, and he overthrew him.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely. Yep.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, without these two turnovers that gave the offense
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: short fields, I don't even know how the Eagles would
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: have built But then it obviously came down to the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Let's examine the drives, the two touchdown drives
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: at the end. One of the biggest plays was Higby
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: for 20 yards.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: This was the wheel route.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: They ran the same play in the second quarter where
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: he beat Hunt. It's from the same formation look. So
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: here Campbell has to play him. I think this is
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: actually his own concept. I think it's quarters. But in quarters,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: you have to run with number two.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Because you don't know the corner.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know who the outside receiver is there, but
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: if he runs straight vertically, the corner's got to take him.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: So the underneath defender has to run with number two
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: when he goes vertical like this.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: So, you know, this is– So Campbell's doing his job.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: He's doing well at this point.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, yeah. This was back shoulder, I believe.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: The one to Hunt was over the shoulder, which was
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: a crazy throw.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's right there.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Hunt's right– I mean, Campbell's right there.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: The back shoulder throw. You can't play the big ball
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: on the back shoulder. You can only play one. You
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: can't play both. Big-time NFL throw.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I know fans are on Campbell, but you can't blame.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Him for that. No, you can't play both.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams are good.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: He recovered well. Yeah, he was right there. Just threw
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it over his head.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: All right, shortly after that, I think the very next
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: play is a 32-yard play to Nakua. Greg, was that
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: a breakdown, or what did you see on that?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: No, this was the 32-yarder where he runs the out
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: and up versus Woolens. and Woolen got caught, it's cover three.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: They rotate to cover three. So Nakua runs the out
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: and up, and Woolen gets caught, and he's in recovery mode.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's actually the ball's thrown a little behind. Nakua is
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: able to adjust to it. Woolen can't because he's in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: recovery mode. So he just got beat. That's his responsibility
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: in cover three. The route's outside the numbers. Essentially, that
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: becomes man coverage. So he just got beat.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Right. And it's important to remember for people, I mean,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: the Rams are very familiar with how to attack Woolen.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: He was with Seattle for his first four years.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: One issue Woolen has always had is just his fundamentals
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: of the position sometimes are lacking. And he just, you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't execute the right way. And, you know, that's always
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: been a concern. And, you know, the other concern with him,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I know from talking to people is, they sometimes feel
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: that the concentration isn't at the highest level, but you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: this is not me talking this is what i've been told.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Right yeah naku is not a blazer and this might have.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Been one of those cases because he just got caught
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you know playing a little too upright eyes in the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: wrong place yeah and you.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Know and then he's in recovery mode Yep, yep, yep.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Body turned around, recovered. That was a big play. I mean,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: that was a really big play.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Anytime you get 32 yards, it's a big play.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I meant at the time of the game.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Right, right, right. Plus, Jeff, the pressure they were getting
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: in the first half, you could see it evaporate in
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: It could not get to Steph.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: And the thing is, in the entire– this is the
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: first touchdown drive, right? Yes.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Every play on this drive was a four-man D-line pass,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Russian zone coverage behind it until they got to the
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Williams one-yard touchdown.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So nine of the ten plays were four-man, D-line, pass rush,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and zone coverage. Yep. Oh, actually, you know, this is four-man.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: That was a sim, right?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: It's a sim pressure. But it's four-man.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: They didn't yet.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Right. Well picked up by Kyron Williams. See, that's the example, right?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: When you have a guy who can pick up that
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: blitz for you.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this might have been the one play
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: where they sort of matched up in man.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, they– I think Vic was a little nervous
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: about bringing pressure and truly matching up because they're matching up,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: but they're playing off coverage.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: You know, they're playing looser coverage.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Now, if you want to point out, we showed so
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: many plays like this where when Dean was the blitzer,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: he would just roll right through that guy and get
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback. I don't think that that's anything Jihad
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Campbell did wrong though. I mean, he just.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Ball came out quick. It's a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: slander out. Ball's coming out.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Very quick. And then another big critical first down conversion
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: for them. All right, and this would be the touchdown
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that kind of put them ahead. This is not the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: one yard. It's the next one, Kyron Williams. I feel like, Greg,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: this is– Go ahead.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: That was actually on the last drive, not the– right.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: So I was right about the first touchdown drive. It
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: was a four-man D-line and zone. That was the last
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: drive where Vic decided he had to do something a
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: little different. So he did the skin pressure, and he
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: played man.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Right, my fault on that. Yep, and then that's what
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: led to– I feel like at this point the defense
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is pretty out of gas because this is just poor tackling, correct?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Kenny Moore played one snap, by the way.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: He did. Didn't notice him.
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  Speaker 2: Miss, miss.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Trotter had the angle, man, and didn't get him.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: That's shades of, what was it, last week against Luther Burton,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: just trying to tackle him on a run.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's one of those, if you're
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: a Rams fan, it's a really good run. If you're
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, it's, you know, you got to tackle him.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Trotter took a good angle. He just couldn't get
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: him at the ankles there. But you said he played
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: every snap. This is the last snap. I mean, at
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that point, who's setting the edge there? Cooper's setting the edge.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: This was– Who's getting– that one, whoever he dragged into
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the end zone there, I think it was Michael Carter.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Carter played almost all the snaps too.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right here, I think that's Michael Carter has an
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: opportunity to stop him at the three, two, and just
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: kind of gets dragged through it. Can't make the play.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: And touchdown. Yeah, that's unfortunate.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. But that's a look at the defense. And
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: maybe some better days ahead if the Eagles get a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: little healthier. We'll have to see what happens with Zach
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Vaughn throughout the week. We'll have to see what Quinn
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Young Mitchell's status is going to be like. And, of course,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard. Man, I do think their pass rush, Adam,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: looks different, clearly, obviously, with Grenard there.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, he stands out. You remember against the Bears,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: immediately he stood out.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: No, he stands out. He's a legit pass rusher. They
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: don't have a pass rusher. I mean, no one had
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that sack. He just ran upfield and around. That's not
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: going to happen on a weekly basis.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Grenard is a closer.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: And unfortunately, with the ankle injury, he couldn't return.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: He didn't come back in the game.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: But I think ultimately, you know, their offense really needs
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: some work because this was a game where if their
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: offense could have been, you know, successful and they could have,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: you know, moved the ball more, you know, they could have,
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: who knows, maybe they could have been ahead going into.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: The fourth quarter 30 to 10.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: And you don't have to worry about this.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: You know, they got to get that because that is
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: possible to clean up. It's not like, oh, my God,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: guys are just awful and they're getting beat.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: It's more schematic.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You know, you got to just take the approach that
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: protection is the absolute.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Number one thing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: That's going to do it. That was a look at
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the Eagles defense and their loss to the Rams. For
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.