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Mike Gallagher Podcast - Thursday October 29 2026 | Mark on CNN, Testing College Free Speech · Salem Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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  Speaker 1: of talk show experience. An extension of the magic they've
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  Speaker 1: created together on radio in the phenomenon called M & M.
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  Speaker 1: Hot topics in the news and wisdom from life. It's
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  Speaker 1: Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is M & M Extra.
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  Speaker 2: No blown out knee will prevent Mark Davis for doing
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  Speaker 2: his daily duties here on M & M Extra. No, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: No blown out knee will prevent you from appearing with
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  Speaker 2: Anderson Cooper and Paul Begala on CNN. Not Mark Davis.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in. I'm Mike Gallagher. He's Mark Davis. And we
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  Speaker 2: are so glad you could join us today. Brought to you.
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  Speaker 2: thought when I said yesterday that I'm going to be
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  Speaker 2: forced to watch CNN, turned away from the World Series
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  Speaker 2: to watch your ass on TV. And I said on
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  Speaker 2: Thursday's pod, we'll play the whole segment. I'll bet you
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  Speaker 2: didn't believe me.
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  Speaker 3: I thought we'd have an excerpt here, an excerpt there.
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  Speaker 2: How long was it? Five minutes? Seven minutes?
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  Speaker 3: Four and a half, 445. So, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding? We can play the whole thing. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that I've ever been prouder of you. Let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you why.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, man.
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  Speaker 2: As we queue it up and get ready to play
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. That's your first appearance on CNN, right?
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  Speaker 2: Or on Anderson Cooper.
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  Speaker 3: Over my life? No, I've done a few times, but it's,
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  Speaker 3: it's been a while. I don't think with Anderson Cooper
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  Speaker 3: ever though. Correct. Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I always wondered what he would be like. I saw
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  Speaker 2: him at one of the presidential debates. He set up
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  Speaker 2: a booth or he set up his broadcast position near
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  Speaker 2: where we were at the time. And he was actually
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  Speaker 2: very nice. He was pleasant and he was friendly and
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  Speaker 2: he kind of knew who we were and knew Salem
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  Speaker 2: and everything. And, uh, What a story he's got, the
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  Speaker 2: son of Gloria Vanderbilt. So he was born with a
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  Speaker 2: silver spoon in his mouth, and he famously walked away
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  Speaker 2: from 60 Minutes because he couldn't tolerate, apparently, Barry Weiss, right?
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  Speaker 2: Was that really it?
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  Speaker 3: I thought that's what it was. Did he and the
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  Speaker 3: husband have a kid or something? I mean, I get
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  Speaker 3: confused between.
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  Speaker 2: No, no. But he walked away for 60 minutes. He
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  Speaker 2: was not happy. He was not happy. And look, CBS
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  Speaker 2: is not. becoming MAGA. I mean, it's just.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, no evidence of that in view of that increased
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  Speaker 3: total sham job they did on the, uh, general counsel,
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  Speaker 3: James Percival. Did you see how they shredded the interview
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  Speaker 3: with him where he delivered all kinds of truths about
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  Speaker 3: who does and doesn't deserve certain amounts of due process?
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  Speaker 3: What is, and is not a dangerous criminal. It's just
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  Speaker 3: exploding myth after myth and a whole lot of it
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  Speaker 3: mysteriously did not make the broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: Funny how that works. Funny how they leave things on
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  Speaker 2: the cutting room floor. Incidentally, did I step up or
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  Speaker 2: not on the show today? I egged people on to
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  Speaker 2: subscribe to the Eminem Extra YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Look at you.
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  Speaker 2: We're over 5,000. 5,000 and 60. That's right. Well, may
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  Speaker 2: I point out, Mr. Big Head, Mr. TV star, you
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  Speaker 2: didn't do it this morning. I did. I had to
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  Speaker 2: do it on my show. You didn't get enough to
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  Speaker 2: take us over? I did.
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  Speaker 3: No, well, here's the deal. I did indeed mention it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just that I have but a sliver of the
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  Speaker 3: clout that you have in the broadcast space.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not with Anderson Cooper any nights on TV. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you could be. And there you were. Yeah. Yeah, no
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  Speaker 2: thank you. But you did great. And I was so
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  Speaker 2: proud of you. And I was, as we get ready
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  Speaker 2: to play it, I want to play the whole thing
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  Speaker 2: like promised. Everybody said, I said, show up and we'll
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  Speaker 2: play it for you. Here we go. Here's the brilliance, though.
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  Speaker 2: Your subtle swipe at the family values of Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 2: and Paul Begala having to defend that was masterful. And
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you why. I'm going to preview it
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  Speaker 2: so everybody can be paying attention to it when you
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  Speaker 2: did it. Because I just screamed from the couch. You
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  Speaker 2: did this in such a way that it was so
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  Speaker 2: gentle and tactful. In other words, you didn't yell at
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  Speaker 2: him and say, who the hell are you to worry
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  Speaker 2: about Ken Paxton's morality? You were dealing with Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 2: who was chasing Monica around the Oval Office with a
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  Speaker 2: cigar in his hand. You didn't do that. What you
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  Speaker 2: did was subtle. What you said was skillful. It was surgical.
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  Speaker 2: And it was perfect. And it was disarming. However, I
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure people who are watching today on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube pay close attention to the expression on the faces
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  Speaker 2: of both Paul Begala and Anderson Cooper when you made
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  Speaker 2: the subtle jab about how it's more important how somebody
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  Speaker 2: will govern an office than than how they have marital
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  Speaker 2: challenges in their lives.
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  Speaker 3: Well, among the people seeing that and taking notice of
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  Speaker 3: that will be me because when I'm looking at my
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  Speaker 3: laptop screen, I don't see Anderson or Paul Begala. They
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  Speaker 3: just kind of got the standard thing there when I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing Zoom at home, which I hate. I said, guys, ideally,
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  Speaker 3: let's do the van in my front yard so it
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  Speaker 3: looks like I'm in an actual TV studio. They couldn't
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  Speaker 3: do it, but it's like, hey, here's a new opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do that. Pardon the reference here. I'm doing Cuomo
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  Speaker 3: apparently tonight. And they are bringing the van to the
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  Speaker 3: house because it really does look like you're on a
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  Speaker 3: broadcast set. So thank you for the kind words about it. Begala,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where he– I think they got a
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  Speaker 3: van in his house because he's somewhere here in Texas too.
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  Speaker 3: So I loved it. But I do– it's echoey. I'm
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  Speaker 3: at home.
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  Speaker 2: It's Zoom.
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  Speaker 3: And I hate that. But it was thoroughly, thoroughly worth it.
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  Speaker 2: Can I pull the curtain back?
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean it. And I'm as– ask my crew here.
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  Speaker 2: I'm as tough on technical things as anybody. I've got
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  Speaker 2: a good eye and a sharp ear. And I pay
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  Speaker 2: close attention to this kind of stuff. Yes. There was
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with your shot last night. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: tell you right now. It wasn't even– Well, you're about.
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  Speaker 3: To hear it. And I sound– listen to Paul's audio
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  Speaker 3: and Anderson's audio.
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  Speaker 2: And I sound fine. But it's echoey. You sounded great.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't– you sounded great. You looked great. I mean
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  Speaker 2: if there's a critique, it would be you had to
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  Speaker 2: have the AirPods in your ears.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I know. Good point.
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  Speaker 2: But that's okay. But people are used to that now. No,
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  Speaker 2: it looked great. Look, if I were running these networks,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't waste money on sending vans to somebody's house.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say plug in like Mark did last night in
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  Speaker 2: front of his laptop. And it looked great. It sounded great.
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  Speaker 2: But most importantly, what you said was spectacular.
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  Speaker 5: Joining us now, two Texans, CNN political commentator and Democratic
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  Speaker 5: strategist Paul Pagale and conservative talk radio host Mark Davis. Paul,
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  Speaker 5: Democrats have been optimistic about other Texas campaigns over the years,
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  Speaker 5: only to fall short. Does this feel different to you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it does. I mean, look how hard the governor
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  Speaker 6: is pressing. This is not an anti-incumbent year. It's an
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  Speaker 6: anti-Republican year. Incumbent governors in Pennsylvania and Maryland, Illinois, Democrats
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  Speaker 6: all are winning in landslides. This governor's had 12 years
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  Speaker 6: and he's had 100 million bucks. He can't close the deal.
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  Speaker 6: And I think it is. It goes back to data centers,
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  Speaker 6: public schools, the stuff that Ed.
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  Speaker 2: Had in his report.
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  Speaker 6: So he's in big trouble. It's been a long time
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  Speaker 6: since Democrats have won anything. But I think Gina Hinojosa
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  Speaker 6: run about a perfect campaign.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Mark, in terms of the Paxton-Talarico race, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: if the president had endorsed John Cornyn, do you think
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  Speaker 5: the Republicans would be in this situation in Texas?
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  Speaker 7: It could be it could possibly be worse. First of all,
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  Speaker 7: Greg Abbott is going to win and win comfortably. There's
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  Speaker 7: no reason for him not to. It is one of
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  Speaker 7: the greatest mythologies being told on the campaign trail that
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  Speaker 7: if only we had the magic of John Cornyn. Listen,
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  Speaker 7: Cornyn had his era and it was filled with a
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  Speaker 7: lot of quality service to the to the state. But
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  Speaker 7: it was made clear in the primaries this past year
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  Speaker 7: that the page has turned past him. So this notion
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  Speaker 7: that Cornyn would be running much better. is probably outright false.
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  Speaker 7: Ken has his issues, to be sure, but how he
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  Speaker 7: will vote as a senator is not one of them.
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  Speaker 7: And up against an anti-meat, anti-gun cheerleader for child sex change,
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  Speaker 7: Paxton's going to win, too.
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  Speaker 5: Paul, what do you think about that?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm just watching all these court and voters, Bush voters,
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  Speaker 6: endorsing James Tallarico.
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  Speaker 1: It's astonishing.
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  Speaker 6: They've got an ad out now saying they're taking a
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  Speaker 6: pass on Paxton. The chief justice of the Texas Supreme
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  Speaker 6: Court retired, Tom Phillips, very conservative jurist, hasn't George Tallarico.
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  Speaker 6: You're seeing it across the state. In the most Republican
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  Speaker 6: part of Texas, up in the panhandle, the state senator
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  Speaker 6: from there, also retired, Kel Seliger, who's a guy I know,
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  Speaker 6: even though he's very, very conservative.
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  Speaker 2: He's a friend of mine.
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  Speaker 6: Towering integrity and very, very conservative. He's endorsing the Democrat.
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  Speaker 6: I've never known him to do that. I've known him
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  Speaker 6: for decades. So something is going on in Texas. And
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  Speaker 6: I think what's going on is People are really fed
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  Speaker 6: up and they want change. And Mr. Paxson has his problems, Mark.
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  Speaker 6: That's a pretty nice euphemism. That boy about as crooked
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  Speaker 6: as the Brazos River and twice as dirty.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Mark, I mean, one of the problems he doesn't
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  Speaker 7: have is how he's going to vote.
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  Speaker 5: Is that all that matters to you in terms of
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  Speaker 5: a candidate is just how they vote as opposed to?
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  Speaker 3: I think we've learned.
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  Speaker 7: We learned.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 7: We learned in the era of a guy Paul knows well,
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  Speaker 7: Bill Clinton, that personal stuff can be important in personal life.
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  Speaker 7: And we'd all like for all of our leaders to
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  Speaker 7: be wise philosopher kings free of sin. And we don't
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  Speaker 7: usually get that. So ultimately, the most important question is,
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  Speaker 7: what kind of senator are you going to be? What
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  Speaker 7: kind of president are you going to be? And when
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  Speaker 7: Texans are faced with the votes to be cast by
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  Speaker 7: Ken Paxton and the votes to be cast by James Tallarico,
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  Speaker 7: despite these embittered establishment losers whom Paul can invoke, Paxton's
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  Speaker 7: going to win.
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  Speaker 5: Paul, is it embittered establishment losers?
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  Speaker 6: No, look, I think I want Mark to keep saying
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  Speaker 6: that because I want the Paxton people to just relax.
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  Speaker 2: And if the hay's in.
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  Speaker 6: The barn, boys, it's done. But the truth is, Tallarico
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  Speaker 6: is whipping him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, what happened?
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  Speaker 3: It was going so well.
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  Speaker 2: It was going so well. What happened?
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  Speaker 3: Only like a minute left.
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  Speaker 2: What happened? Oh, there's another minute or two. Huh? Yeah. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to go back. We're going to pick it
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  Speaker 2: up where we left off here, so hang in. We'll
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  Speaker 2: play it again. Previously on the CNN, Anderson Cooper tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Do they still use James Earl Jones' voice? By the way,
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  Speaker 2: I do have to take it. He's respectful.
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  Speaker 6: He's not very partisan. He's reaching out. I thought he
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  Speaker 6: did a great job of talking to people who deeply
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  Speaker 6: disagree with him on issues like abortion, as he did
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  Speaker 6: in that town hall meeting. So he's building the kind
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  Speaker 6: of broad coalition you need.
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  Speaker 2: To have to win there.
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  Speaker 6: And if Paxton thinks it's over and it's all done,
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  Speaker 6: like Mark says, that just makes me happy as a Democrat.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say that. Didn't say that.
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  Speaker 2: Mark, do you think Paxton, no doubt, is going to win?
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  Speaker 7: Listen, anything is possible. There's simply no reason to believe
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  Speaker 7: that in a state like mine in Texas and like Paul's,
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  Speaker 7: where two years ago Trump swapped Kamala Harris, where Greg Abbott,
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  Speaker 7: Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton won by large margins four years ago,
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  Speaker 7: and Ken was embroiled in a lot of these controversies
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  Speaker 7: four years ago. There's simply no reason to believe that
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  Speaker 7: Texas has sufficiently flipped to hand over this Democrat pipe dream.
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  Speaker 7: Anything's possible in the future, but it ain't happening this year.
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  Speaker 5: And we shall see. Mark Davis, appreciate it. Paul Pagal
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  Speaker 5: as well. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And they gave you the final point.
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  Speaker 3: Holy cow. What did you do?
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  Speaker 2: What did you do? By the way, I do have
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  Speaker 2: to qualify. Yeah, right. The audio wasn't as good as
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  Speaker 2: I heard.
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  Speaker 3: See, he told you.
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  Speaker 2: All right. You're right. It was a little tinny. Zoom sucks.
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  Speaker 3: Zoom sucks.
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  Speaker 2: A little hollow. No, that was fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight on Cuomo, I will sound just studio pristine. That
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  Speaker 3: was fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: And that is exactly what I had. It sounds like
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  Speaker 2: I want to go from evil to good in the
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  Speaker 2: rest of our time together, Mark. Let's do it. I
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  Speaker 2: want to do something. Do you mind doing this? Because
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  Speaker 2: I think you'll like this and you'll appreciate this. My
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  Speaker 2: heart is really heavy when I saw a clip of
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful young woman on the campus of the University
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  Speaker 2: of Texas, San Antonio. Oh, Lord, the poem. I've actually
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  Speaker 2: been on this campus before. UTSA, as it's affectionately known.
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio, great, great community, great people.
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  Speaker 2: San Antonio University. UTSA is regarded as a nationally recognized
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  Speaker 2: top-tier public research university that, on their website, unites higher education,
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  Speaker 2: biomedical discovery, and healthcare. And, you know, Charlie Kirk was
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  Speaker 2: killed at one of these events. They called it Prove
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  Speaker 2: Me Wrong. And he would invite college kids to debate
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  Speaker 2: him because he loved the art of debate. And he
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  Speaker 2: would present his passionate views. He would invite politics. leftists
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  Speaker 2: to present their passionate views, because debate is what we need.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to have conversation. We can't talk at each other.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to talk with each other. And so over
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  Speaker 2: at Turning Point USA, the organization that Charlie founded, they've
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: continued this tradition. A young man named Christian Collins was
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: in a tent set up very similarly to that fateful
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: day where Charlie was killed in Utah. And I saw
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: last night on social media, he posted a tweet. On X,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: he said, at UTSA for Pick Up the Mic, a
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: student read a poem celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: with such glee, then told me I was brave to
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: be out here without my neck covered. I told her
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I'd pray for her. He said in the post, this
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: is the climate. We pick up the mic anyway. Which
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: just gave me chills because he's like, you know what?
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: We're going to still pick up the mic. We're going
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to still debate. But I want you to see and
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: hear what this young woman, again, beautiful girl, big oversized glasses,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: but a very attractive young woman. And incidentally, we now
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: know a lot about her and her mother and father.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, Lordy, I'll bet we do.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: And it's going to be, they're having a bad day,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: this family, because this thing went viral. And here's what
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: she said. had the temerity to do. Here's what she
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: had the boldness to do, the audaciousness to do, to
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: show up at a public event on the campus of
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the University of Texas at San Antonio.
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: If you could announce your name and speak loudly, thank
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: you so much.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I go by Pamper Baby. Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: So I took a plan B and I'm an immigrant
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: this morning, like feeling kind of guilty. So I wanted
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: to read a poem that I actually wrote. It was like,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Do you have a question, though?
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: No, I just wanted to share. I felt like, you know,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: freedom of speech. I wanted to share a poem I
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: wrote for everybody. It was the night before the Kirkiversary,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: and all through the house, not a creature was stirring,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: not even a mouse. The flags were hung proudly, the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: memes all on deck, as we solemnly remembered a shot
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: to the neck. The podcast fell silent, the hot takes
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: grew wary, for tomorrow, dear friends, is the great Kirkiversary.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: So I'll see everyone at the Squirt for Kirk. We're
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: hosting that also on October 10th.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I'll see y'all there.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: It's a BYOE, you know, vaccines included.
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: See y'all there.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: That's all. Are you happy with yourself now? I mean,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I think that was just.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Baby, I'm thrilled.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: You're brave for being out here, you know, no protection,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: no nothing, no like neck brace or.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'll pray for you. Which was a nice thing to say. Now,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: she said in the beginning she was an immigrant. Turns
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: out she apparently is. She and her family, apparently a
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: very wealthy, successful family. A couple of people, her mom
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: and dad are in Houston. I'm not going to identify
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: her on this podcast. I'm not interested in doxing people.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: But you can find it on social media because it's everywhere.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: If you want to. Yeah, if you want to, go ahead.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: The mother is apparently a successful realtor. For the moment. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: no kidding.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And that's on almost another podcast talk show topic.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I want to talk about.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: What should the consequence for this vile, repellent moment be?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Well, and the father is a very successful businessman in
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Houston as well. And they are from Brazil.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Brazil.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And even though I mean, who knows if they're naturalized,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: if they are. But she is an immigrant. Apparently she
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: was being accurate.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And of course, the first thing I'll say, first thing
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I'll say is let's leave mom and dad alone. Because
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: maybe this is an ill-raised, poisonous little bitch raised by
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: parents who raised her to be exactly that. Or maybe
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: they did everything they could and the world got a
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: hold of her and this just happened. Because we've talked
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: about this. You don't ever presume from the kid what
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: the parents have or have not done. So I'm going
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: to say let's leave the parents alone. But for this
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: young lady, what do you think?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the one question I raise is whether
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: or not she should be facing any disciplinary action from
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the college. Should UTSA discipline her, Mark?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, good question. Good place to start. If free speech
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: means free speech, right? Show up and say anything is
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: kind of the vibe at this event. So I'm going
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: to say no. Because then it means we make a
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: tribunal that says there are some things you can say
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: that are so provocative at an open mic event that
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: we're going to sanction you. And the person that we
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: sanctioned today and we all go, yeah, she deserved it,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: is the person we sanctioned tomorrow. Some university sanctions tomorrow
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: for saying there are only two genders. So I don't
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: think that's a road I want to go down. So no,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I would say no.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting argument and I would have to interpret
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it as meaning you don't want her to face any consequences.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: OK, here's the thing. From the university, for daring to
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: say something disgusting, no. Because free speech is there. The
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: First Amendment is there to protect unpopular speech. And boy,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: is that unpopular. So here's the thing. I don't know
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: her name, and nor do I necessarily need to. We
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: do then get to the notion of maybe an employer.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: If everybody knows that Joe Smith... who says something repellent
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: like that that goes viral, and at Joe Smith's job,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the company Joe Smith works for starts to get calls saying,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: do you employ Joe Smith? I'm never going to shop.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: With you again.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Can the company then fire Joe Smith? You bet they can,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: because Joe, by opening his big mouth, has brought negative
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: attention to that business.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: OK, the good news is I'm not Paul Begala. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: nice try. Nice dodge. Nice evasion. But you didn't answer
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the question because the truth of the matter is you changed.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You pivoted. Let me tell you why.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: No, no. Let me. You changed a different. You went through.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I asked you if a college student who says such
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: a despicable, violent thing. threatening thing because she was threatening
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: him too. So glad you're here without a neck covering.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: You don't want any accountability, Mark. So going by your answer,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: let's say she's not employed. She's a full-time college student.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You're telling me you think she should be able to
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: stand up and get away with that crap? Mark, there's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: got to be accountability. There's got to be a reckoning
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: for this, because if we don't give these people accountability
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: and consequences, they're never going to stop doing it. It's
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: going to get worse before it gets better.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Do you think on the campus that it was a
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: good day for her or a bad day for her? Well,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: she had people.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Cheering for her. She had people in the background cheering
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: for her. Did you hear when she said the shot
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: round and they go, whoo?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Kirk anniversary and all that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Mark, this is becoming a movement. The left has become
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: incredibly violent. They celebrate violence. They worship violence. This is
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: not a small group anymore, Mark. This is a large
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: dominant faction with whom Democrats can't win elections. I'll bet
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: she votes. I'll bet if she's allowed to, or even
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: if she's not, she'll vote, although it is Texas. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: there's no debate. They're not interested in changing your mind
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: or having a debate.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: It's a repulsive way to be.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But, Mark, they want us to die. They want us
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: to die. I know.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And they'll call us Hitler, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: They want to kill us. Call me Hitler. Just please
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: don't kill me.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I think I'm sticking with this, and I'm going to
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: be a free speech absolutist. Now, if she gets up
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: there and says, hey— everybody, let's gather out on the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: quad and start killing conservatives, then that's incitement to violence. Absolutely.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: But I don't think I want to start making a
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: list of things that get so disgusting. We don't let
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you say them because the campus where we do that
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: and we love the result is the campus tomorrow where
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: they decide it's a terrible thing to say that we're
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: a Christian nation.
• 23:28
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• 23:37
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• 23:40
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• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a very, very interesting comment that I want to throw out.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: To you, Mark, I think it's Jackie Dunn, JCK Dunn,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: who simply said, we are not voting our way out
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: of this. That's such a powerful declaration. Can we vote
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: our way out of this? What the hell does that mean?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: It means that it's not enough. Okay, so what else?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: We might do well. Well, I don't know. How do
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: we get out of this?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan. Okay, good point. I guess a
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: couple of things you can mean. We're not voting our
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: way out of this means that showing up and voting
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the right way may not fix everything so well. There's
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: a dark turn one can take from that that I
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: want no part of. But as with a whole lot
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: of other national problems, yes, we have to vote. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: we also have to get out in our real lives,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: bring people to Christ, be good examples ourselves of what
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: it means to be a good person, spread the light
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: out in your world with your family and your friends,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: do things in your community that spread the light of
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the kind of person you are. So in that realm, sure,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I would join that we don't vote ourselves out of it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the good news is we can vote our
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: way out of leadership that reflects that kind of garbage.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, we can.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: We're about to, too, I hope. And we're five days away.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I hope you're right. And here's another commenter on the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: YouTube chat. Mark's answer was spot on. He didn't say
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: no consequences. After all, who says she can't wake up
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: with a horse head in her bed?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It's the calm, loving M & M Extra podcast. All
• 25:21
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• 25:26
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• 25:29
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• 29:01
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  Speaker 2: the other day. I've got a World Series in my backyard.
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay sucked. Pardon my language.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they won one game. They won a 12-inning classic,
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  Speaker 3: and it showed there was life in the old team yet.
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  Speaker 2: But it was all Milwaukee, and this apparently is a
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• 29:34
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• 29:46
  Speaker 2: end an M & M Extra five days before this historic, important,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: crucial midterm election.
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: To see the Brewers win the World Series. How do
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  Speaker 8: you describe this feeling now that it is a reality?
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  Speaker 9: This is one of the greatest moments of my life.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 9: It doesn't even feel real.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: This is surreal. It only took four months.
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  Speaker 8: The way you played baseball, especially in this World Series, Cooper,
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: how do you explain raising your game to this level?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I mean, we have the best fans.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It's loud.
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  Speaker 9: It's crazy. The pressure is out of this world. It's
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  Speaker 9: some of the hardest but most fun baseball I've ever
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  Speaker 9: of times this postseason, but the guys picked me up,
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  Speaker 9: and we're here, and we're world champions, and it's so special, man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so blessed.
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  Speaker 9: I owe it all to my Heavenly Father.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 8: Enjoy it so much.
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  Speaker 1: So well deserved.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you guys. Mark.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I had not seen that.
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  Speaker 2: I had not seen that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I watched a little, I watched the end
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: of the game. And then that young man out of
• 31:06
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• 31:09
  Speaker 3: He is 20. He is 22. And just get it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: It's the kind of thing that gives you hope for
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the younger folks. My God bless him. Good for you. Brewers.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: No matter who won, it was going to be the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: first world series ever. The Rays have been in a
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: couple of three now, I guess. Maybe next time, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: maybe you'll have a World Series victory in your backyard.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: But way to go, Milwaukee Brewers. Well, well, well done.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And thank you, Cooper Pratt, for that inspirational message. Tomorrow's podcast,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Prediction Friday. We're going to go out on a limb
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and we are going to literally predict. I don't think
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have the guts to do it on
• 31:42
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• 31:45
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• 31:48
  Speaker 2: we'll do it here. We will do here because we
• 31:50
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• 31:52
  Speaker 3: But we will.
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