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Jerm Warfare - Hrvoje Morić on preparing for a technocratic future · UK Column Radio

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None. Dude, I was just telling you now
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I have been wanting you back on my show for for quite a while
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and I was just explaining to you also that the last few months I
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have just been burning out. But you said now you went to
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Croatia with no Internet. Yeah, I, you know, I kind of
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reached as well, a tipping point, a confluence, you know,
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of a few different things. And I thought I hadn't seen my
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parents in a few years. And you know, it's expensive to
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take the whole family to, to the 4th Reich European Union.
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And as well, my parents don't have Internet where they are or
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in some cases is extremely slow. And so I thought, you know what,
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why don't I just take three months off?
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And yeah, we went out over to Dalmatia and the and the
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Adriatic and tuned out for three months, paused my Sub Stack
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subscriptions never do that because what happened was I
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thought I'll be away for three months, I'll pause people's paid
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subscriber subscriptions for three months.
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And you know what Sub Stack did? It ended up giving all paid
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subscribers 6 to 9 month free trial.
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So when I came back, I had to spend 2 full working days to go
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into Stripe and fix everything. So welcome to the Technocracy.
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So yeah. Well, what was it like being so
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disconnected? It's, it's wonderful, but I
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think for people like yourself, myself, whether we're podcasters
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or consumers of this content, I still couldn't get away because
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I had the 4G on the phone, you know, so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm on
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the island. We're at the beach every day
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where we're roasting lambs and pigs and eating fish and and
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hanging seeing cousins I haven't seen in 15 years.
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I got to hang out, meet with some prominent Croatian anti
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globalist intellectuals and dissidents and interviewed a
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couple. But still I'm like, I need to
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know what's going on. I'm checking my ex feed or
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telegram feed. So it's it's it's difficult.
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It's like, but it's also the nature of our, our with the work
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that you and I do. It's kind of like I want to, I
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want to know where are we at? You know, is it, is it the end
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times yet? Is it has World War three
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started or the OR have they launched the second the next
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lockdown, you know so. You said you recorded while you
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were there. What?
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How did you have some? Oh, just.
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In person, so I recorded I Max Egan so it was funny.
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So last year, so last year I was in Acapulco at an Acapulco and
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my Airbnb was next to Max's house and across the street from
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his bar. So I met him there just, you
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know, doing checking out Anarcho Polko did recorded TNT radio
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from there. And then the following year,
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here I am on the Dalmatian coast.
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In May, I went to high school there in the town where my
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parents live. And now and Max, it just so
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happens Max happened to be there.
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There's some Croatians that brought him over.
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It was the second time they did that.
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They're fans of Max. They brought him over and I met
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those folks, went out to their house, one of them, because one
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of my listeners, that listeners lives there in town, he's from
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Canada and it's just funny, the odds.
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And so I hung out two days with Max and recorded a sit down with
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Max. And then I met a few other
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Croatian intellectuals, Christian me and Mishak.
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He's been doing a programme on Croatian television for 20
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years. He's interviewed 800 plus some
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of the same people we've interviewed, and so I got them.
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I did that one in Croatian with him because he didn't want to do
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it in English. But anyways, yeah.
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What? Why was he protesting the the
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language? No, he just wasn't as
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comfortable in English and he told, and I wasn't as because
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I'd never done it in Croatian. But it was fun.
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It was fun. And he's got a big following.
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He's been doing this for 20 years in Croatian television.
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So, you know, he's interviewed Ike and and a whole bunch of
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folks. So.
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Yeah. David like you don't interview,
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you just say hello and then you sit back.
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There's a few guests like that, like my former professor Alfred
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Desias. You just go.
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I just actually saw him on. It's funny.
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Our our, our former employer Mike, he's still doing the World
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News today and I saw him interview Alfred and jobs
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Landgreb, who I also just interviewed.
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And yeah, there's a few guests who just, it's like you're
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trying to interject, but. And then you feel like you're
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interrupting. And then they kind of get angry.
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Look, I was, I was in the flow, you know?
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Croatia create me if I'm wrong, isn't that way Game of Thrones
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was formed? Yes, Dubrovnik, and I don't know
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what other parts. I was in Split as well, which
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you've got the occlusion's palace.
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I'm sure they've filmed there as well.
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Yeah. It looks beautiful, absolutely
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stunning. It is.
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I hope to return permanently someday, so we'll see.
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We'll see how that works out. Yeah, hang on, hang on, hang on.
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Return permanently. So you you live in Mexico, don't
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you? Yeah.
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Why would you want to go back to Croatia?
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Why not? It's Croatia.
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Oh well, that's good enough I suppose.
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But on your way, on your way, you need to stop by and come
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stay with me. Or, or yeah, I either way.
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Or I can, yeah, I can make it to Croatia, then drop down to South
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Africa and come back, come back up.
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Yeah, yeah. It's so far when I travelled to
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to China recently. You forget sometimes Voya how
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massive the world is. You know, like to just to get to
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Shanghai, you know, took like 6 hour flight to Ethiopia and then
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from Ethiopia to Shanghai which was 11 hours.
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So the whole, you know, flight, if you if you had the 2
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together, it was 17 hours. It's just a lot of time above
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the clouds. It took me about 24 hours.
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To get to Croatia. From Mexico to through the USSA,
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through the new European Soviet to get to Croatia and, and This
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is why I don't like travelling. I was just offered a teaching
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job in China at I guess one of the top international schools.
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I was offered a job in Baku, Azerbaijan.
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I was looking at a teaching gig in Alaska because I like going
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to these remote places. But for now, I think I'm just
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going to stay home. And I just don't like travelling
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anymore. And, and This is why I prefer if
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I go somewhere, I prefer to go like 3 months or something like
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that, because, but I do have to say, I was expecting so many
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contingencies because I, I was reading, I, I passed through my
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hometown Chicago. And a few months before that
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there was some YouTube who'd been held up for hours by the
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authorities in Chicago, you know, thought crime.
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And then in the EU, you constantly hear of journalists,
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particularly in the UK, but it's also happening in Germany
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elsewhere, you know, podcasters, journalists being interrogated
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for hours as terrorists. And so I'm thinking like this
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might happen to me. And then no, it was this.
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It was actually one of the smoothest travels ever when it
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came to passport control flying. It was actually comfortable.
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And you know, one of the reasons the whole passport control is
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getting smoother is the facial recognition.
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And as as I like to use one of my get past guests, Edwin
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Black's terms that the algorithm ghetto.
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So they just snap your make sure they know who you are OK pass on
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through so. I, I must say, I, I do
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appreciate getting through an airport quicker, but now I'm
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going to get shot down for saying that.
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I'm, I'm not saying I'm OK with facial recognition, but man,
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being in an airport really, really kills you, man.
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Yeah, it's it's it's expensive and yeah.
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And it's just, it's like they're little prisons.
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They're training us for the future purpose.
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Well, I mean, I think airports are probably one of the best
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examples of a technocratic future.
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They use all the latest and. They're they don't many places
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they don't take cash. When I was in, I was shocked.
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When I was in Texas, I mean Texas of all places, the Lone
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Star State, and I was supposed to represent freedom.
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Was it 2 years ago? I was in Texas twice and I was
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shocked. Like in the airport, I wanted to
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buy a burger, lunch, something nowhere, accepted cash and like
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what? It's just mind boggling.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, you can pretty
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much not get anywhere in China without using Alipay or WeChat.
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I mean, that's it. There's pretty much no cash and
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I didn't see any cash at all when I don't even know what
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Chinese currency looks like. Yeah, You know, you're reminding
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me. I was in China 21 years ago and
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I spent three weeks there. We we went on a historical tour
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because I was a history major and our our Jewish really great
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guy, Jewish history teacher from Bronx who married a Chinese and
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he was fluent in, in, in Mandarin.
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And we did a deep tour on in China.
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We went to Beijing, Shanghai, Xi'an, I don't even remember
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where else. And, you know, we saw the Great
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Wall. We saw the Great Wall in the in
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the desert part of China, which I didn't even know existed.
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And so, yeah, And I still, I think I still have some
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physical. Back then, yeah, there was no
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digital stuff. It was cash.
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But now it's how things change and you.
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Were there 21 years ago? So in Chinese time, that's five
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centuries. What?
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Do you mean? Because they work in like 5 to
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10 year blocks, They are so, so advanced and that is impressive,
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but it's also scary. I wouldn't want to live there,
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that's for sure. Why wouldn't you want to live
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there? For a host of reasons, I guess
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the most obvious is language and culture.
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That is first and foremost. It's not.
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It's not home. I can't relate.
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I can only relate to my African my my African brethren.
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It's what I know and, and I'm a foreigner there.
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I'm not a local. But beyond that, Voya, they are
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very technocratic. And in many ways, they set the
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example for where technology and central governance, you know,
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collide. And I'm not a fan of that
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intrinsically, inherently, I just it, it doesn't make me
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comfortable. It's largely everything I speak
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out against. No, I, I think, you know, I've
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also had Chinese Co workers here in Mexico where I used to teach.
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And what I gather is that they're, as you say, they're
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very practical, pragmatic, I don't know if you could even say
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opportunist, but in the sense that, and I think part of it is
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the spiritual aspect. You've had the atheist communism
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for so long, not to say everyone is atheist in China, but again,
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it's, it's a bigger trend. And so they value more
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materialism, right? As a result, communism was
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there's no God material, you know, money and benefit.
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And so that's kind of in, in their society, in, in the upper
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hierarchy versus the Christianized West.
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And so that, that's why. And, and you know, in many
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senses, I feel like China has been an experiment.
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I've had some guests on, I'm thinking of like Peruvian
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research professor Miklos Lucas and others where we've talked
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about how, you know, you had China opened up US, you know,
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Nixon and all that when they went into China to sort of open
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it up and it effectively they brought technocracy to China.
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So, you know, a lot of people today say point at China and I
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always make the statement, you know, we've interviewed some of
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the same people that live in, I've interviewed Nick
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Stankovich, Serbian guy in, in, in, in China, Jeff forgetting
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his name is Jeff Grey. I think he's an Englishman in,
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in China. And you know, I, I've noticed
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one thing with them too, you know, bless those guys.
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I like them. We agree on some things,
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disagree on some things, but you tend some of these people that
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support this statism basically that you're referring to of the
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Chinese are that they're status, even some of these foreigners.
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So they kind of I'm not a status.
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And so I I view any state, any virtually all politicians from
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Mexico to US to Canada to Europe to Croatia to Russia to China,
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any politician as bad. And the state is inherently evil
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because I think all, you know, the biblical worldview, man is
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all men are sinful and inherently evil.
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And so they defend some of the bad aspects of China because
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their status. So they say, oh, you know, this
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sort of OK, let's say algorithm ghetto or social credit thing in
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China. It's good because it keeps us
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safe. But then I'm, and I'm thinking,
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I interviewed him, I forget his name, Eric Young.
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He's a guy in Hong Kong and he admitted to me, he said, he said
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he's like, yeah, you're right. Like it's, you're right.
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It's, it's, it's what we're we're giving one thing up for
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another. And right now it's peaceful and
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it maintains. But you're right.
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Maybe later it'll be tourniquet tyranny, as Edward Edward
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Snowden called it. So, you know, some of them
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admitted that they're making a Faustian bargain.
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But my point was that I think from the West technocracy that
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was brought into China, Microsoft came in the 1990s to
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China setting up AI centres and all that.
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And it was one of many laboratories like Gaza is today,
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like China. And now that stuff that's been
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worked, some of that stuff that's been worked out in the
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East is coming back to the rest of us.
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They call it China Vacation. But at the same time, that stuff
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has also, it's been worked on in the West.
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That's being implemented here as well.
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So yeah. You make a very good point
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actually, now that I think about it, because whenever, whenever
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we talk, we talk about China, we always talk about how advanced
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the country is. And when we talk about advanced,
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we're always referring to technology.
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It's as it's as though that is the the selling point.
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Yeah, you know, as we were discussing earlier, I wouldn't
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be opposed to living in in China from the civilization
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perspective, like if it was more analogue like back in the day,
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I, I put in mind living in a Chinese in a rural area.
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But again, I, I've, I've lived in half a dozen countries and
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I've, I've just gotten tired of all the the paperwork and the
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visas and the this and that. And so I just like to stay at
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home. But.
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But yeah, but anyways, today technology is, is our God.
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You know, I've got a guest I'm interviewing today, Shannon
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Rowan, and her book is on technology.
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And she begs the question of whether all this stuff that
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we're using now is in is inherently evil.
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The, the technology like the whole, all the smartphones and
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the DARPA Internet and everything.
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And I think there's, there might be something to it.
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And so I think we, we look at it through the, that lens today,
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because this is the transhumanist future that were
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sold that, you know, technology is this God we're creating this
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God of AI and, and smartphones and everything,
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interconnectivity, Internet, Internet of Things, Internet of
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bodies. And this, this is the utopian
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progressive future. This is the pinnacle, right?
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And so This is why I think everyone uses that measurement.
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I don't know if this will show up on the screen, but I took
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this photograph. I don't know if you can see but
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it's it says the automated. People Mover, yeah.
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So that was in the airport. That's a train.
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Now, somebody pointed out that that kind of makes people out to
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be like cattle. That's AI.
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Don't know if that's a language thing, I'm not sure.
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I've got no idea. But an automated people mover?
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For a train, I mean that that's great in one sense because I
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think that better captures, but I think it better captures the
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essence of what that actually is in versus.
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A train, Yeah, well, it's automated in the sense.
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I mean, I, I went on it and it has nobody driving it.
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It's completely automated and it moves people.
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So I guess it's very literal, but it you get that sort of
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cattle vibe. That's where I think again,
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we're we're, we're we're headed and it removes sort of your or
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our sovereignty. You know, I was this week.
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Lutz. OK, so here's a point that's
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relevant, Lutz is trust. I talk about them a lot.
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I was Bailey's Theosophy. So you had Blavatsky in the
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1800s who was a Theosophist. I admire, if you ask me, say
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Satan is Luciferian. She had a Lucifer magazine and
18:09
they tout that Lucifer is, is the Christ.
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He's the good guy, right? He's the Prometheus.
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And Bailey founded Lucifer Publishing, which later changed
18:19
the name to Lucy's Trust. And I was at one of their
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meetings in Geneva back in 2009. They have their headquarters in
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London, New York and Geneva and their latest newsletter.
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They talk about the convergence of East and West and they talk
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about how we must and they talk. They were lauding Xi Jinping and
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his reforms and his new, you know, his new proposals for
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world government. So Xi Jinping, the global
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governance initiative. So he's proposing world
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government. It's like, wait, guys, this is
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not the direction we want to be going in and loses trust.
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Was saying I forget what exactly by that we need to get rid of
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individuality and bring in collective collectivism
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globally. And that is like, no, we we, we
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don't want to. You know, Jedward Gryphon for
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the longest time has been specifically talking about how
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it's a war. The globalists want to bring in
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collective collectivism to extinguish individualism.
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So yeah. I've got his book here
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somewhere. How old is he?
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He must be like 90 odd. Probably getting to mid 90s,
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yeah. You're still around, you know
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that? I've never had him on my show.
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I must actually try. If you still I've heard and he's
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in this later age, it's it's getting difficult, you can
19:37
imagine, but. I mean, have you seen Noam
19:39
Chomsky? I mean, he's like 190 and he's
19:42
still doing interviews, but he really, but he looks, he looks
19:46
like one of those characters from Pirates of the Caribbean is
19:49
like, he's like falling over and I don't know, You don't know
19:53
what he's saying. Have you, have you had him on?
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No, no, no, no. I've tried.
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I I know our mutual friend Hugo Kruger has interviewed him, so
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yes. He interviewed him a few years
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ago. I don't know how he got that
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right because I mean, he's, he's, he doesn't answer emails.
20:09
It's, I think with folks like that, it gets a bit difficult
20:12
when they get to that old age and as you say, sometimes you
20:15
can't hear them well and you can't make sense.
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So yeah. G Edward Gryphon had one of the
20:22
best interviews ever. Remember that one?
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And I think it was 1984, Ironically with KGB.
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Yes, Bismuth. Last name now, yeah.
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Bismuth. Yeah.
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What a great interview that was. Yeah, I had, you know, I, I
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don't know if I told this on my last podcast with you, but 2011
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Ed Gryphon took me to lunch because I've been volunteering
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on his in 2000, 2008 9. He had a newsletter, I think
20:52
back then it was called Unfiltered News, and he was
20:54
supposed to be writing a book that never came to be.
20:57
And we had, he looked for volunteers to help manage the
21:03
weekly news. And then I was going to
21:05
California on 2011. And then I I told his assistant,
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hey, let's go meet for coffee. And and she's like, oh, Ed wants
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to take you to lunch as a thanks.
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And so and then the the I got the copy of G right behind me.
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I think it's, it's right there. He sent it to me for one
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Christmas sign. So yeah.
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Since we're on that, what if? Who?
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Sorry, not what. Who have been some of your
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favourite guests? I mean, you've also done a huge
21:34
amount of interviews. I kind of, I never said, you
21:39
know, I don't sit down and think who's my my favourite.
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I just in general love like you and I do.
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Just being able to turn on the computer and just speak to the,
21:50
to people from all around the world from all statuses.
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You know, some of our guests are rich and famous and others are
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people you've never heard of. And I just think again, it's the
22:02
content of their character, the, the, the insights that they
22:06
have. But I have to look at my own
22:09
website to like answer that. But yeah, you've had some of the
22:14
big names. You know, I, I, Francis Boyle
22:17
was fun. He just passed on January.
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That was weird because he passed on.
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That was one of my claims to fame, my the interviews that
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went viral, that got me in trouble.
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And eventually, probably the platform from Patreon and
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PayPal. With Francis Boyle.
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Yeah, those 300,000 views on YouTube in January 30th 2020.
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What was it about? Taken COVID of course.
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No, but why? Why that one in particular?
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I don't know because he had come out saying it was, you know,
22:49
biological warfare weapon that The Who knew what it was, knew
22:53
about all of this corruption. You know, it's covering it up.
22:56
It would be used as a pretext to bring in a police, global police
22:59
state, which it did. And but he passed on five years
23:05
to the day of the release of that podcast on January 30th of
23:10
this year, which I thought was weird and I think 74 years.
23:15
And we would subsequently talked about, you know, World War Three
23:19
and all that because he was an expert in international affairs
23:22
as well. And so that was fun with Boyle,
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you know, and some of the big name like Robert Epstein, who's
23:31
he tacitly admits that the Google Pentagon probably took
23:36
out his wife who died in the mysterious car crash.
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And I really like my chat with Edwin Black because it's my
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favourite topic, the algorithm ghetto.
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And CJ Hopkins is always fun. So, you know, those are some of
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the is. CJ still doing interviews
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though? Or is he still fighting with the
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German government? No, he's, I don't haven't paid
23:53
attention. So he's doing a a trip around, a
23:55
road trip on America right now. And it's funny because he, so
23:58
he's going through America and he's everywhere he goes.
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He's meeting, hanging out with Americans who follow him, and
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he's writing a book in the process.
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And he passed through Chicago, 15 minutes from where I used to
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live. So it's kind of funny.
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But yeah. Yeah.
24:12
So he's passing through and he said he hadn't been back to
24:15
America in 20 years. So.
24:17
Yeah. No, well, I didn't know that.
24:20
I I haven't been keeping up. I, I try, I keep trying to keep,
24:24
I keep tabs on, on everyone. I keep tabs on, on all of you
24:27
just because I like to see what's I like to know what's
24:29
going on the, the, the lay of the land, you know, my past and,
24:34
and future potential guests. So.
24:36
You, well, you said earlier that you know, you know, you don't
24:40
like the state anyway. And one of the great things
24:43
about living on the African continent is we have exactly
24:47
that. That's why in, if you live in
24:52
Africa or South Africa more specifically, you by default are
24:57
extremely suspicious of the state.
25:00
And also generally speaking, the state's pretty inept and
25:03
useless. And, and that's a great thing if
25:05
you believe in sort of self reliance and independence and
25:09
you know, and, and freedom of expression and freedom of other
25:13
things. By the way, I want to ask you
25:15
about that term freedom in a moment.
25:17
I think it's a, it's become a bit of a catch phrase, but
25:23
there's a vast polar opposite between China and and any just
25:31
pick, pick an African state, you know, in terms of centralization
25:35
and governance. I think that's why I think that
25:36
if you want to buffer against Agenda 2030, New World Order,
25:40
Build Back Better, all those terms that kind of mean the same
25:42
thing. I think African countries, Sub
25:45
Saharan particularly, generally are a good choice and perhaps
25:50
where you are also, I don't know.
25:52
Yeah, that's a good point. I'm thinking of an interview I
25:54
did with Doctor Parker Roberts during COVID and he was saying
25:58
he's like there's nowhere to go. And he was mentioning a friend
26:01
of his that went out to live in Africa.
26:05
I forget where I think a bit north of you, but that that was
26:09
the freest place you can get during COVID And, and Mexico to
26:15
an extent can be like that even if you go to rural Croatia as
26:21
well, which like I said, I kind of feel my for myself, I, I
26:25
don't feel like moving anywhere where I'm not a citizen anymore.
26:30
So it's basically I'm relegated to Mexico, Croatia or US.
26:35
And here's a case in point. Riley Wagaman, I think you've
26:38
interviewed him, no? Riley yes, I think so.
26:41
Years ago, actually. Now you you've actually put him
26:43
back on my radar. Right.
26:45
And so his partner Katarina, I think, was just kicked out of
26:51
Russia. And so he, he, he, he too.
26:55
So I guess I, I didn't know the full history, but he wrote about
26:58
this a few weeks ago that I guess she's, she's from America
27:00
like him, but she went when she was young to Russia, fluent in
27:04
Russian, a good model, you know, citizen and not a citizen, but
27:09
good model. You know, she was getting
27:11
offered jobs and, and prominent Russian institutions or
27:15
whatever. And the KK, GB, FSB, the FSB
27:21
just, she arrived to Russia and they rescinded her visa and
27:25
kicked her out of Russia. And then I guess that by default
27:29
meant Riley as well. And they're in Egypt now.
27:32
And I've been saying for a long time, because of this algorithm
27:35
ghetto, the, the biometric exit entry systems that are coming
27:38
in, the thought crime that is being installed in every country
27:43
that, you know, in Mexico, they're saying if you criticise
27:46
the government, they want to be able to revoke your, your visa.
27:52
And so this is one reason I don't like to be somewhere where
27:54
I'm not a citizen. But to your other point of
28:00
places like Africa, that's true here in Mexico, but I just see
28:05
them accelerating this digital agenda everywhere and and
28:10
they're leapfrogging. You know, people think in the
28:12
developed world, oh, it's not as that developed Mexico or or
28:16
Africa, but it doesn't need to be because with this new
28:19
technology, it's like everyone's got a smartphone, everyone's got
28:23
a bank account or bank app is some fintech.
28:26
Those are the key nodes. And now digital identity.
28:29
I mean, here's a story from last week at my church, like I was, I
28:32
almost fell off my chair. So I was talking to a family
28:35
from our church and they have a teenage daughter and they live
28:40
here where I am on the edge of town and they're on the lower
28:44
socioeconomic rung. And the girls telling me that
28:48
she was at some mall and they were scanning people's eyes and
28:52
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
28:53
What I'm like in the back of my mind, I'm like, is this what I
28:55
think it is? It can't be.
28:57
It was World, World Coin, Sam Altman's World coin, which has
29:03
been rebranded World with the Orb.
29:06
And so they were in the mall and she passes by and they have the
29:10
biometric scanner and they're like, and they're offering
29:13
money. So they said, here's 20, we'll
29:14
give you 20 bucks, which is a lot of money in Mexican terms.
29:17
And just scan your eyes, we'll take your biometrics and you
29:21
create your digital wallet, world wallet.
29:25
And I'm like, Oh my goodness. Like it's, it's, it's, it's
29:29
happening, you know, and This is why they go to the global S
29:31
because and then people are just lining up.
29:33
I hear them free money. It's like, give us your eyeballs
29:35
for the world. The digital ID.
29:38
And I was explaining to them and they were afterwards, the lady,
29:41
the girl and her, you know, the girl was like, Oh my goodness,
29:44
what did I do? But I definitely think that that
29:48
some places are going to buffer, but a bit harder than others.
29:53
I mean, I don't know if you've been to Amsterdam, but that's a
29:56
15 minute city that kind of just made itself.
30:01
Yeah, I mean, I, I live technically with my city.
30:03
Guadalajara is a 15 minute city. It's a resilient city.
30:06
I discovered this five years ago.
30:08
So I live in a resilient city. They've said they want to remake
30:12
Mexico City, which is massive, I guess, into Hunger Game
30:15
districts because you can't make Mexico City, 25 million people
30:18
into a 15 minute city. It's like 3 hours or who knows
30:21
how long to cross the city. But they announced in the
30:25
mainstream paper last year they want to make it into a 15 city,
30:28
15 minute city. So I guess divided into 15
30:30
minute city districts. And they announced another
30:33
state, Sonora and Mexico, that they're going to make the
30:36
capital Hermosillo, a 15 minute city.
30:38
They signed a deal with I guess Chinese Foxconn to help them
30:43
make it at smart city and then make the rest of the cities in
30:45
Sonora 15 minute cities. But I think as you say, they
30:51
will advance at different speeds in the implementation of of this
30:56
stuff. And I think as a rule in
30:58
general, whichever country you're in, the more rural you
31:02
are, the more freedom you'll have.
31:05
So. Well, you see, this is, this is
31:07
the conundrum, Voya. I mean, everybody knows South
31:11
Africa is very dangerous, you know, very high crime.
31:17
And there's a sense of freedom in the chaos.
31:26
And you have to pick your battles.
31:27
Yeah. You know, if you're OK with more
31:31
chaos which comes as a result of broken infrastructure and but if
31:36
you are looking for I guess a sense of freedom, you have more
31:39
of that in this mess. Whereas if you're in Canada or
31:43
New Zealand or even, you know, China, you have a huge amount of
31:47
order safety but with a lot of top down control.
31:53
Yeah. And you made me immediately
31:54
think of the situation here in Mexico.
31:56
So, for example, we've got the cartels, right?
31:59
And it's it's not a nice situation you reach.
32:02
I mean, people, you can follow the, the blog, the narco on
32:06
Telegram and X and you know, everyday, I mean women,
32:11
children, teachers, politicians. I mean, they just killed a lime
32:14
grower in Michoacan. Like a dude who was just growing
32:17
limes. He was the leader and he refused
32:20
to pay extortion. They took him out.
32:23
Another guy whose video went viral, he a young successful
32:27
entrepreneur who spent four years blood, sweat and tears
32:30
building a successful restaurant business.
32:33
And he did a 10 minute video saying, sorry guys, I have to
32:35
shut down my business. They're extorting me.
32:38
I'm afraid they're going to send the sicario and assassinate me.
32:42
And he's like, the government knows they're complicit.
32:44
They don't care. And I know this is happening to
32:47
many of you other Mexican businessmen.
32:49
And, and he he what he says, like we all, if more people had
32:52
the courage to speak out and make noise, if there was
32:55
sufficient critical mass, same thing with COVID or whatever,
32:58
the government would be forced to react.
33:00
They'd be forced to tell the cartels either go after them and
33:03
say, guys, come on, you've crossed the line.
33:05
Let these people do business. And so, but and so the situation
33:09
Mexico is like, you can't go to rural either.
33:11
Like I wouldn't feel comfortable.
33:13
I've been looking at a Plan B location in Mexico and I, I feel
33:17
like, like you say, if you go to rural and Mexico, there's no
33:22
authority there. So you can have a gang of men
33:26
come to your house and just do whatever they want.
33:29
And that's why I'm relegated to like the outskirts of town.
33:33
So you can't go. So you can still be on the
33:34
outskirts of town, not too far from quote order and still have
33:40
like a well with water and your own food and and and animals.
33:43
So kind of in between. And so the, yeah, as, as you
33:45
say, you, you get, you have to make a deal, you know?
33:51
But I mean, you know, home is where the heart is.
33:54
And so also, you know, so I mean, my default configuration
33:59
is probably fairly anarchist, but that's also as a result of
34:04
living on the African continent. Perhaps I would have a different
34:08
view if I grew up in Shanghai. You know, I don't know.
34:11
But but what I do know is I, I prefer what I what I know, and I
34:16
prefer what I am surrounded with.
34:20
But it comes at a cost. Yeah.
34:23
You were having the chat with Nick Hudson the other day and
34:26
I'm a fan of his and I know he follows me on X and I just
34:29
haven't gone around to asking him on.
34:31
But you guys. Yeah.
34:33
And and you but you guys were talking about something related
34:35
to forget it, what it was China and why they're.
34:38
So I think was suspicious or something like that.
34:42
And that made me think of, I think a lot of what what what's
34:48
a lot of that stuff comes from the previous regimes that they
34:52
lived under. So, you know, I've lived in
34:55
Kazakhstan, I've been to Russia. And one thing you notice there's
34:58
a commonality to like China, Kazakhstan, Russia in those
35:02
regards, and it's the totalitarianism and that they've
35:05
lived through Soviet Union, Chinese history.
35:08
Kazakhstan was Soviet Union and I'd lived in Mongolia as well,
35:12
which was less to that extent. They were satellites of Soviet
35:15
Union. But you know, the I stole my
35:19
landlord in Kazakhstan. Great guy, but I, when I would
35:22
veer too much into politics, he actually told me stop talking
35:25
about politics like he was still afraid of, of because, you know,
35:29
it's an authoritarian light state.
35:31
Kazakhstan again, it's kind of to your point, it's still a nice
35:33
place to live. It's from, I find it interesting
35:35
and the people are, are, are are nice, but it's authoritarian
35:39
light. And the people had this attitude
35:41
when COVID came along that they were like, yes, we know it's all
35:44
a sham, but shut up, keep your head down and, and just move
35:49
forward. So they've been trained through
35:51
that previous history of of don't, don't make noise, don't
35:55
rebel, conform. Almost like the courage was the
35:57
individuality was sucked out of them.
36:00
But the COVID era. You know, is is sort of a litmus
36:04
test, you know, so if if you lived in a country where you had
36:10
to get APCR test like in China, well that's a deal breaker for
36:14
me, right? Like done deal.
36:16
I mean to to your point so. There is a website that I use to
36:22
gauge international teaching appointments is called
36:26
International Schools Review I think, and you have to pay 30
36:28
bucks to get access. And it's got forums of
36:32
international schools around the world and it's people who work
36:36
or used to work there that give the real reviews of what it's
36:40
like to work. Like do they pay?
36:41
What do they pay? Do they really pay it out?
36:45
How are the students administration and everything?
36:47
And you know, I had gotten offered potential offer to teach
36:51
in China and I thought, OK, I'm going to check out some of those
36:53
schools. And they were like the top
36:54
international schools. Well, I came across one foreign
36:58
teachers review of China. So she said pre COVID working
37:04
and teaching in China. Great, No problems.
37:07
But she then explained, so this is like a real, you know, you
37:10
pay access. These are real teachers, not
37:12
some, you know, propaganda. And so she said what happened to
37:16
her in 2022 during COVID as a teacher, foreign teacher, she
37:19
said that she got locked into her apartment.
37:24
She couldn't leave. And, you know, and, you know,
37:26
you guys, you talked with Nick and others, Yeah, some of those
37:28
stories were propaganda that came out, but some of it is not.
37:31
So here's a real foreign teacher saying I'm locked into my
37:33
apartment. I can't buy food like what,
37:35
what, what is this like the starvation and, and, and then so
37:38
she said post COVID, I wouldn't go teach in China.
37:42
And, and that's kind of like for me where I, I'm, I'm, you know,
37:46
whether it's Croatia or the place that I know Mexico, it's
37:49
not that bad to that extent. And I'm more familiar with their
37:54
surroundings here, which allow me to sort of maybe skirt some
37:57
things. But yeah, I mean I didn't get
37:59
APCR test at. All.
38:01
I didn't. I've never.
38:01
I've never got one. Yeah, and I didn't even.
38:03
Get a fake vaccine. Passport because I didn't want
38:05
to legitimise the system. So but I mean, I was able to to
38:10
do that here, you know, in South Africa, I don't think I would
38:13
have been able to do that in Shanghai.
38:15
Speaking of which, I did ask some people in China about the
38:20
lockdowns and they there was a girl who said that she was
38:23
locked into apartment block. They couldn't leave.
38:26
They had food brought there, but that was only for two weeks.
38:29
I think it was, it wasn't like for six months or and you know,
38:32
there was no starvation, but it is true and.
38:37
But but. This is also part of the
38:40
information war or void like how you how you philtre, you know
38:47
the the truth that's infused with nonsense.
38:50
It's so difficult. So, so, so difficult.
38:53
And the segue is I said earlier I was going to ask you about the
38:57
word freedom. One of the things that that bugs
39:00
me. Are these?
39:03
These these sort of self designed movements, quote
39:08
unquote, the freedom health movement or the freedom movement
39:12
or whatever it might be. OK.
39:14
And I don't, I don't attach myself to any of those movements
39:18
because I don't really know what they mean.
39:20
But when when people talk about freedom, it's like a catch
39:23
phrase now, you know, you might as well put a little TM next to
39:26
it. Like what does it actually mean?
39:27
What do people mean when they talk about freedom?
39:32
That's a good question. I don't know, you know, and, and
39:36
he's supposed to know. I think I, I, you know.
39:40
I think it can also go to an extreme as well.
39:43
I mean, look at the West, you know, and, and I, I, I've
39:49
vaguely touched on some of these topics when you explore these
39:52
ideas of, of, I know the Russians have commented on this,
39:55
like this liberalism of the West, which at the start it
40:01
seems OK, right? Like the American Revolution and
40:05
all that and the, the, the freedom and, and, and, and
40:08
liberty, right? But then you know there's a
40:11
great. There's a few great folks who
40:13
have have have been trying to explore this, but then you come
40:17
to realise, you know, a lot of those ideas were started by
40:20
these Freemasons, occultists, these ideas of, of liberty, this
40:25
God of liberty today. And I think there's something to
40:28
this. You know, I was born in America,
40:30
I got Thomas Jefferson right behind me, all that jazz.
40:33
But then you realise, wait a minute.
40:35
I think the underlying philosophy though is anti
40:39
Christian and anti human because what it means it's it's it's
40:45
Satan. You know, Satan was in in the
40:48
King's court, right, God's court.
40:51
And he was ultimately he was beautiful musician narcissist.
40:55
So he wanted to be God. He wanted to lead the first
40:57
colour revolution, the first regime change it first coup
41:00
d'etat, coup d'etat in heaven and he was kicked out.
41:03
But the liberalism, and I think that that that's why I say these
41:08
Freemasons and they're occultists and probably
41:11
theosophists when they say that means there's no limit to
41:15
freedom. So I think the result of us
41:17
having now men who want to be women and trans and this and
41:22
that, I think that's actually a natural consequence of this
41:26
philosophy of, of freedom where there's no, there's no limit.
41:30
So you can be what you want. You can be do what you want.
41:35
You know, you Aleister Crowley says, right?
41:38
What does he say? I forget the quote now.
41:42
The whole of Yeah, I forget it now.
41:44
But anyways, yeah, but you're touching on.
41:47
What I'm alluding to and and that is this idea of well.
41:54
Freedom a being a catch. Phrase, but B nobody really
41:57
knowing what they mean when they say it.
42:00
Because if you talk about freedom politically, you
42:05
probably are. Speaking about.
42:06
Anarchism, which means no state at all.
42:10
And everything is locally, locally driven.
42:14
But most people I've spoken to who would argue for freedom
42:20
would not go down that road. You know, they, they talk about
42:24
a good government, you know, that that maintains the
42:27
country's sovereignty, for example.
42:29
But you can't have that if you are living in an anarchy, you
42:33
know what I mean? And so that's politically
42:36
speaking, culturally speaking, I don't know what it means either
42:39
to to have maximum freedom. I don't know what that means.
42:44
Well, I mean like some of our. Fellow podcasters are
42:47
anarchists, volunteerists, right?
42:49
And I don't that can never be applied.
42:52
I'm I'm like, look, OK, there's no governor in Mexico.
42:55
Yes, there is the cartels, which they're they chop off your
42:58
heads. It's like they did dissolve
43:00
your, they extort you. So it's kind of like you're not
43:03
going to have anarchy. There's always going to be
43:05
someone to fill that power vacuum.
43:07
So for me, it's like a pipe dream is never going to happen.
43:10
And I got and I come from. It never has happened either, by
43:13
the way. Yeah.
43:14
And then from the. Biblical worldview, it says, you
43:16
know, government is not the idea of a government.
43:20
A government isn't bad. Obviously I don't like it.
43:22
And I think even in the Bible, you can read that early on, God
43:25
was like, you know, to the Israelites, just follow us.
43:28
You don't need a government. But the people like we want a
43:30
government. It's like, OK, and and so.
43:32
Yeah, but what about that verse? Sorry, what about?
43:34
Sorry, but that verse that says given to Caesar that which is
43:38
Caesar's and given to God that which is God's right?
43:41
So that's a whole other. Philosophy so like we're living
43:43
in this age of governments and and the point of that was Jesus
43:47
saying, look, the most important thing is your salvation,
43:49
eternity, not not now. And so to espouse this Christian
43:56
morale of loving your enemy, preaching the gospel, be the
44:02
best citizen that you can be, Yeah.
44:04
And be the most innocent, righteous, truthful, honest type
44:10
of person. So I think that's what he meant.
44:12
So that when you get persecuted by this tyrannical government,
44:16
that they have nothing bad to say about you.
44:18
Like, oh, look, he's paying his taxes.
44:20
He, you know, he doesn't curse. He helps his neighbours.
44:23
So you're being like an, an example.
44:25
And then the government's like, well, what are, what are we
44:27
going to get this guy on? Like, you know, And so I think
44:30
that was the point. And so I forget what we're
44:34
talking about the freedom and and then social as well.
44:37
Like if you go live in those like Kazakhstan and Russia,
44:40
socially conservative, they'll never let fly this trans LGBT
44:46
plus Q stuff, you know? So, but I mean, I saw.
44:50
None of that in northern China. Like absolutely none of it.
44:55
No purple hair, no green hair, no low cut tops on on women like
45:00
very conservative. And a strong yeah, and.
45:05
A strong sense of family and community.
45:07
And that's why you, that's why when you go to China, you end up
45:10
with multiple philosophical tug of tugs of war, tugs of war, tug
45:16
of wars, tugs of war. What's the Bureau?
45:19
Tugs of war I guess, but you end up with.
45:22
Many of the hosts. You're sitting on that on that
45:24
flight home thinking, I don't know which way to go with this.
45:30
I mean, there's no perfect. Location, wherever you go in
45:34
China, you get a plus, you get a minus you come to Mexico plus A
45:36
minus US. So it's really subjective and
45:41
you know, people sometimes tell me you should leave Mexico and
45:44
come here where I am or this or that.
45:47
And I'm just like it's, it's up to the individual.
45:49
There's just so many factors. But I mean, you know, again.
45:54
You can't see what's. In front of me, but I.
45:56
I've got. I've got my windows open and
45:59
it's beautiful. I have mountains and vineyards,
46:02
you know, and it's all green, you know, And the sky is blue,
46:06
no chemtrails, you know, And it feels and smells healthy and and
46:14
wholesome. So am I OK then, with the chaos?
46:20
I think I am. No, that's a great place to be.
46:24
That's an ideal. And I was shocked this summer
46:26
and like the chemtrails in Croatia, like I've never it's
46:30
been. It was so in your face that's
46:32
like you couldn't deny that those were actual chemtrails.
46:36
And so I thought a place like the Adriatic where it's it's
46:38
it's mostly nature. They're geoengineering us.
46:43
So. Yeah.
46:45
But you want to go there, Well, you know it's it is.
46:50
It's home, you know, It's my homeland.
46:53
So you know, what can I, what can I say?
46:56
What is somebody from Croatia called A.
46:58
A. Croat A Croat Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:01
Croat, yeah. OK, a Croat.
47:04
Is Croatia part of the EU? Unfortunately, yes. 2013, I
47:09
believe we were assimilated by the Borg and three years ago we
47:13
lost our currency. So now, and this was, I saw, I
47:16
was there three years ago in 2022 for three months while we
47:20
still had the currency. And I came back in September and
47:24
then December was the last month before, you know, they, they got
47:28
rid of, they introduced the euro and I think January 2023.
47:31
And so this was my first trip where I came in where it was all
47:34
euro. And honestly, I felt like
47:37
almost, I was on another planet and that aliens took over.
47:41
I mean, it's, it's really something when you come to your
47:43
country and you don't have a currency, it's like you don't
47:47
have a country anymore. Well, and it was just to be
47:51
fair. Many African countries also
47:54
don't have currencies. But for very different reasons.
47:59
But that's even better if you don't have a currency.
48:01
At all that's fine, but if now we have to use the euro, it's
48:04
like that's another, you know, but just quickly.
48:07
Going back to the question I was asking about freedom, I mean, I
48:10
was reminded of those, those freedom events in Washington or
48:14
wherever they were, where they have a lot of bands playing in
48:17
people speaking on stage. And and then I think to myself,
48:20
what what is it that they're actually wanting?
48:23
A lot of them are mega and Trump supporters and they, they see
48:27
Trump as fighting for freedom. But dude, he's part of the
48:29
system. He's part of the machine.
48:33
He, he introduced warp speed and Stargate.
48:39
Yeah, I've been. I've become.
48:40
Disillusioned with a lot of those events and, and
48:44
organisations and I don't like to be part of generally any,
48:47
any, any association. But yeah, it's, it's some of
48:51
them are well meaning people. No problem with them.
48:54
Some are rifters, obviously. And the whole Trump thing.
49:00
Trump is, I've been saying this since I guess the beginning.
49:02
Trump is new world order. He's he's globalist, he's
49:05
bringing in installing the new world order and there's no other
49:09
way. I mean, who else?
49:11
When you talk about this, I'm not saying he's the Antichrist,
49:13
but I when you talk about this idea of the Antichrist and the
49:16
installation of the new world order, it's going to come
49:19
through somebody who appears to be, you know, it's not going to
49:23
come through some left wing radical pink haired nose rings,
49:28
you know, awoke person. Everyone's be like, what, what
49:31
is this? It's going to be someone who's
49:32
who's wearing a suit, who pretends to be, you know,
49:35
Christian, and that's the guy who's going to sneak in right
49:38
through the front door holding a Bible, as Trump does.
49:41
And reminds me of Gary, Gary Oldman in the Book of Eli with
49:46
Denzel Washington. He's the guy who wants to get
49:47
his. I love it.
49:49
He wants to get his hand on the Bible so he can control the
49:52
town. So yeah, I mean Trump.
49:55
This is the thing that has blown my mind immensely, is that when
49:59
he came in for the second term, when he was, shall we say,
50:03
selected for the second term, How?
50:08
Millions. Of people would just beautifully
50:11
and poetically brought back into the system.
50:16
But it's it happens everywhere. Like I had the same situation
50:19
here in Mexico, where some of my Mexican friends, some of them
50:23
who are even Christian, who are not supposed to be left wing,
50:25
and I criticised, I criticised, I criticised Morena, the left
50:30
wing party, Scheinbaum. I'm low Scheinbaum, who just
50:33
proposed one of their politicians proposed a bill to
50:36
if you meme a politician, you can get six years in gaol.
50:41
And I posted that and I said alert, alert.
50:43
You know, they're they're trying to do this.
50:44
And for me, it's not about left to right.
50:46
Like the right wing government tried to do this ten years ago.
50:49
Now the left wing government is doing it.
50:51
And my left wing friends got angry because they believe in
50:56
their left wing party. They think that's their team.
50:59
And I'm telling I'm thinking like Morena that left, They
51:02
don't they don't know who you are.
51:03
They don't care about you. And it's the same thing with the
51:06
Trump stuff. It's just people.
51:08
It's part of his cope. They need to believe in
51:11
something, some hero. And if they if then if they
51:14
don't have it somewhere else, like my minds is Jesus.
51:18
And so it's, you know, you've talked.
51:19
I've seen you comment on that before, the black pill stuff.
51:21
And it's like, I'm black pilled, but I'm not.
51:24
Yes, I'm black pilled in the near term, but my white pill is
51:27
Jesus. If you don't like that, don't
51:29
you know just you've got your? Own white pill so.
51:33
Yeah, look, Voya. That that Blackpool comment is
51:36
very multi layered. This is one of the things that I
51:40
have been trying to. Get across.
51:46
In on my show lately is is the complexities that are around us.
51:52
I think. I think it's Kid Knightley.
51:54
Who who really, really drove this point home when you said
51:58
that people, even on our side, get caught up in these fake
52:03
binaries, these false dichotomies where it's where
52:05
it's one or zero and they completely ignore all of that
52:10
grey that's between the black and the white.
52:14
We are a very, very big world and there is a lot of complexity
52:18
and a lot of nuance. So like a black pool, it's not a
52:22
there's not like one sentence definition, but it generally
52:25
means when I speak about it is is the dangers of being jaded or
52:30
nihilistic. You know if if you wake up in
52:33
the morning and you have no desire to get out of bed and
52:38
you. And you feel like you have no
52:39
purpose. Something is wrong, very, very
52:43
wrong. It's a bad place to be.
52:45
That leads to taking antidepressants and basically
52:48
you become reliant on the system and you might not even, you
52:51
know, live, you know, you might decide to try and take your own
52:54
life. That is a very dark, dark place
52:58
to be. And it's easy to fall into that
53:02
trap when you see what's going on around you.
53:06
And so it's so, so when I speak about the Blackpool, I speak
53:10
about that it's not really going, Oh, well, there's no
53:12
point because there's always a point, you know, you've pointed
53:16
out that, you know, you, you should always fight the good
53:19
fight and, and you can win little battles along the way.
53:24
And, and those, and those can, can lead to great things.
53:28
And the white pole then, by by extension, is merely taking that
53:33
information and waking up with a purpose, you know, getting out
53:38
of bed and still being able to smile and, I don't know, bring
53:42
coffee to your wife, you know, and, and make bacon and eggs
53:45
and, and feel like you can still get through the day.
53:49
You know what I mean? Yeah.
53:50
And and I'm referring. To black pill as some
53:54
commentators on the different platforms who, you know, tell
53:57
me, oh, you're always so negative.
53:59
You're looking at this bad stuff and and to your like, like you
54:03
say, you know, I'm I get up, I'm happy the sun is shining.
54:05
I fire up the coffee. I'm like, what's going on in the
54:07
world? And I have a balance, you know,
54:09
I go out into nature, play with the, with my kids and all that,
54:13
all that sort of stuff. And I think it's the, the
54:16
problem is some of these people who misdiagnosed it was like,
54:19
look, I, I can stare into the bit abyss daily, You know, it,
54:22
it doesn't really get to me. And I've been lately saying that
54:26
resistance is not futile. I said in a recent interview
54:29
that just if, if something is wrong, like the digital ID stuff
54:34
or whatever, whatever the outcome, even if we're
54:38
surrounded, if it's like the movie 300, you know, if we're
54:41
going to die, it's still kind of a white pill to resist.
54:46
You resist not because knowing whether you're going to win or
54:50
lose, because it's the right thing to do.
54:52
You don't comply with evil, you fight it.
54:55
And you know, that's another version of the white pill.
54:58
I think the great. Thing about the pull and energy
55:02
though, is that it simplifies some of these complex or
55:08
abstract ideas and I'm very grateful to that wonderful 90s
55:12
documentary The Matrix. What a disaster.
55:19
Did the Matrix become the the the directors?
55:22
Hey I I never even got. Around to watching the third
55:27
sequel and it was a waste of time.
55:30
And it's just. It's but it just seems across
55:32
the board that they've just destroyed all.
55:36
It was such a good movie, that first one.
55:38
It was it was breakthrough, I thought, but it.
55:43
It's across the board, you know? I was a huge fan of Mission
55:45
Impossible, even though it was before my time, even as a kid at
55:49
the the TV show. I'm talking about the original
55:51
Mission Impossible, Mission Impossible.
55:53
And then when the first one came out, that was like the only
55:56
movie that I went twice to the movie theatre to watch.
56:00
I think it was in the early 90's, the original Mission
56:03
Impossible with director Brian De Balma, which had this
56:06
ambience. You know, they had the ambience.
56:08
If you remember the first Mission Impossible of like a
56:10
real spy movie. And then the rest were just
56:14
garbage, like fast food type, you know, So they do it with
56:17
everything they destroy. That's the.
56:20
That's the. Liberal globalist world.
56:22
Order I still do. Enjoy movies and I I don't
56:28
subscribe to that idea that I'm just going to throw out the TV
56:30
because I think I think they are still good movies that get made
56:35
and they are they are good messages that come through some
56:39
of them I thought Lord of the Rings was great for example
56:42
yeah, I was watching Narnia with my.
56:44
Kids, yeah, yeah, to your point, you're you're, you're right.
56:47
And I do also watch stuff selectively, but sometimes their
56:51
stuff as well. It's entertaining, but it's,
56:54
it's they're programming us like, well, like John Cusack,
56:57
you know, did you know? There was a movie.
57:01
That came out in 20. 12 called Contagion.
57:04
Did you know about this movie? I know, I know of it.
57:07
I haven't seen it. But you know, I, I went back a
57:09
few years ago and and watched Utopia with John Cusack, which
57:13
was filmed in 2020, 1819 and released in 2020 during COVID
57:19
where they basically said, yeah, we're gonna fake a pandemic just
57:24
so people can get injected with a sterilant.
57:26
No ways. You know, it's cool.
57:27
So. In your.
57:28
Utopia You So was first a a British TV show in the 23rd in
57:33
2013 and then it was remade is an American version.
57:38
And it's literally, I mean, that's literally what they
57:40
effectively did. And they said that they created
57:42
this image of a pandemic where his company secretly they hired
57:46
different vans and they went around the US and they sprayed
57:49
some sort of concoction to get people I'll to create the
57:54
appearance of a pandemic so that they would demand the vaccine.
57:58
And he was saying he had this famous quip in this TV show like
58:02
you have to like summoning Bernard Shaw, You must earn your
58:06
right to live daily. And so it's it's so, you know,
58:11
so in your I, I had never heard of.
58:14
Contagion until I think late 2020 and someone on social media
58:18
said, hey, check out this movie Contagion.
58:20
And then I go and have a look and it's it's a legit movie with
58:23
legit actors. And it came out like almost a
58:26
decade earlier. And it's about a corona virus
58:29
outbreak. And in that movie, they used the
58:31
term social distancing, which is a term that I'd never heard
58:35
before 2020. And, and everything was the same
58:40
as basically as what happened in 2020.
58:43
And it's just creepy. It's just creepy.
58:47
Which leads me to a quick, a quick question before we come in
58:50
for a landing. How much of what's going on do
58:54
you think is by design and how much of it is by emergence?
58:59
I think. It's most of.
59:00
It is by design. We can see, you know, the COVID
59:05
stuff that's planned, the wars, the economic aspects, they don't
59:11
always go according to plan, but they just come back and retry
59:17
and they're relentless. Evil is relentless.
59:20
And so I, and then as you mentioned, I mean how is that a
59:23
coincidence, contagion and COVID in the 10/20/2010 Rockefeller
59:29
report. And so come on, this is all
59:32
mostly planned. And then if you take.
59:34
The biblical worldview that there's someone driving this,
59:36
there's this entity that's lived for millennia, Lucifer, who's
59:40
the driving force? He's strategic and he's got a
59:44
plan where he wants to take us and it's it's moving along
59:47
swimmingly until it isn't because he loses in the end.
59:50
So that's AI think that's a good.
59:56
Way to end the the conversation, Arvoya.
59:58
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