Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Healthy bouncing baby girl Harper Briar dead from Benadryl overdose at daycare
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace always smiling. She's just perfect. Yeah,
- 0:19Speaker 1: it's just like the best way to describe her is perfect.
- 0:22Speaker 1: These are the precious memories Marissa Colburn and Blake Brier
- 0:25Speaker 1: will cherish forever their beautiful baby girl, Harper Rose Briar,
- 0:29Speaker 1: had just started crawling, holding her bottle on her own,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and got her first tooth. Dad Blake was working and
- 0:36Speaker 1: mom Marissa decided to go back to school full time
- 0:38Speaker 1: for social work at Castleton University, but she spent three
- 0:42Speaker 1: months vetting daycare providers to make sure she chose the
- 0:45Speaker 1: right one. She says it was hard enough dropping Harper
- 0:48Speaker 1: off with another person counting down the minutes until they
- 0:51Speaker 1: were together again. And on only the third day of daycare,
- 0:55Speaker 1: Marissa was just leaving school on her way to the
- 0:58Speaker 1: daycare to pick Harper up, she got the news. You
- 1:01Speaker 1: are hearing our friends at wte MTV. That was Samantha Demisquillo,
- 1:07Speaker 1: and you were hearing little Harper's mother, Marissa Colburn, who
- 1:11Speaker 1: talks about how happy a baby Harper was, just started crawling,
- 1:15Speaker 1: could hold a bottle on her own. Baby Harper was
- 1:19Speaker 1: in her third day at Villaincourt's daycare Center, when Coburn
- 1:23Speaker 1: gets a text from an e MT emergency technician with
- 1:30Speaker 1: the worst news ever. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us? What went wrong? Joining
- 1:39Speaker 1: me an all star panel, Doctor William Moroney, author of
- 1:42Speaker 1: American Narcan on Amazon, medical examiner, renowned defense attorney out
- 1:48Speaker 1: of California. Troy Slayton, psychologist joining me out of Manhattan
- 1:53Speaker 1: at Karen Stark dot com Karen start with us, and
- 1:56Speaker 1: the director of the Coal Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Right now to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter John Lmley, John,
- 2:05Speaker 1: why did mom get a text from emergency services? Well?
- 2:12Speaker 1: As you mentioned, she had just dropped the little baby,
- 2:16Speaker 1: Harper Rose off for the third day. This is six
- 2:19Speaker 1: months after having the baby. Marissa had decided to go
- 2:23Speaker 1: back to school. She had poured over the websites of
- 2:26Speaker 1: different daycares trying to find the perfect place to care
- 2:30Speaker 1: for her baby. On this third day, she had dropped
- 2:34Speaker 1: her off. A few hours later, she gets this text message,
- 2:38Speaker 1: not a phone call, a text message from an EMT
- 2:42Speaker 1: that her daughter had been rushed to the hospital and
- 2:46Speaker 1: that Marissa needed to get there as quickly as she could.
- 2:49Speaker 1: This is just breaking my heart, breaking my heart, Cheryl McCollum.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Do you recall when I was in the middle of
- 2:56Speaker 1: trying to finish a book and David con convinced me
- 2:59Speaker 1: the children would be okay at this little Lutheran center
- 3:04Speaker 1: for three hours at a time, three days a week,
- 3:07Speaker 1: and I would sit in the parking lot in the car,
- 3:10Speaker 1: afraid to be away from them, and work on the
- 3:12Speaker 1: book in the car in the parking lot, and go
- 3:16Speaker 1: stare in the window and oh, I can still hear
- 3:19Speaker 1: them screaming, screaming as I would leave them and walk
- 3:23Speaker 1: out the door, and then I would cry out in
- 3:25Speaker 1: the hall. It was the biggest drama. I can only
- 3:28Speaker 1: imagine what this mom was going through leaving her baby,
- 3:32Speaker 1: baby Harper, at daycare and then this, Cheryl. I cannot
- 3:36Speaker 1: have them that kind of information through a text message.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I mean, you would almost think it was bogus, like
- 3:42Speaker 1: this cannot be meant for me. It's been only hours
- 3:47Speaker 1: since I dropped her off. She has to be fine.
- 3:49Speaker 1: And then they didn't call me, They didn't explain what
- 3:53Speaker 1: had occurred and how they got noticed and how you
- 3:56Speaker 1: know they're taking her to the hospital and what condition
- 3:59Speaker 1: is she in? Writes this from it but just this
- 4:01Speaker 1: sterile cold check message. I can't take a listen to
- 4:06Speaker 1: our friends at WCAXTV and home daycare provider is charged
- 4:11Speaker 1: with manslaughter after a six month old baby girl dies
- 4:15Speaker 1: in her care. Fifty three year old Stacey Valancourt of
- 4:18Speaker 1: Rutland runs a state certified daycare on North Street. Chelthreezdamamada
- 4:22Speaker 1: was in court today for her arrangement. Don what do'll
- 4:24Speaker 1: police believe happened to the little baby girl? First of all,
- 4:27Speaker 1: it was an extremely emotional afternoon in court today as
- 4:30Speaker 1: dozens of family and friends showed their support for Harper
- 4:34Speaker 1: Rose Briar. The Chief Medical Examiner's Office says the cause
- 4:37Speaker 1: of Briar's death was difen hydramine intoxication. That is a
- 4:41Speaker 1: sedating ingredient found in many over the counter cold medicines,
- 4:44Speaker 1: including ben and Drew. The autopsy noted more than one
- 4:48Speaker 1: dose was in Briar's blood and also said that difen
- 4:51Speaker 1: hydramne should not be used on infants without an order
- 4:54Speaker 1: from a physician. Joining me right now, Medical Examiner Extraordinary
- 5:00Speaker 1: author of American Narcan on Amazon, doctor William Maroney, colleague
- 5:05Speaker 1: and friend. Doctor Moroney explained to me what is DIF
- 5:10Speaker 1: is an antihistamine that's technically used in allergies, but it's
- 5:17Speaker 1: also sedating, so it makes you sleepy, and that's how
- 5:21Speaker 1: it's used in over the counter medicines. But it is
- 5:25Speaker 1: part of a family of drugs. I know everybody hates chemistry.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Everybody hates math called fennel alkil a means and those
- 5:35Speaker 1: are also this. Wait a minute, if you know everybody
- 5:39Speaker 1: hates it, why do you keep talking? Because you said,
- 5:42Speaker 1: I know everybody has this, but I have to translate this.
- 5:45Speaker 1: You know, you do know the only time I ever
- 5:47Speaker 1: made an F in college, an F which I tell
- 5:49Speaker 1: the children whenever they make a bad grade, which is
- 5:51Speaker 1: hardly ever. I flunked chemistry. In fact, when they started
- 5:55Speaker 1: mixing the chemicals, I passed out. My freshman year, I
- 5:58Speaker 1: passed out. I came to on the floor of the
- 6:01Speaker 1: chemistry lab to music in my head going doo doo
- 6:04Speaker 1: doo doo doo doo doo doo doo mean chemistry, don't mix.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Hence my major in Shakespearean literature. Okay, dummy down, farmy Morone.
- 6:14Speaker 1: The same family of antihistamine. Drugs also can include methamphetamine
- 6:19Speaker 1: and amphetamine, so at high doses you can have psychosis, seizure,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and respiratory failure. The most important thing they need to
- 6:30Speaker 1: do is take all the children from that daycare and
- 6:33Speaker 1: do hair samples on all of them to see that
- 6:37Speaker 1: this person was dosing all those children. It's not likely
- 6:41Speaker 1: this poor child that died was the only one that
- 6:45Speaker 1: was taking doses. You don't give a drug that's required
- 6:50Speaker 1: to be given by a physician at a dose to
- 6:53Speaker 1: a six month old at the levels they have because
- 6:58Speaker 1: when you interpreted on the body, it's getting ten to
- 7:02Speaker 1: fifty times the normal dose. And they said there was
- 7:05Speaker 1: more than one dose, which means she was dosed on
- 7:08Speaker 1: the first day, she was dosed on the second day,
- 7:11Speaker 1: and she was dosed on the third day. And somebody
- 7:14Speaker 1: would do that because they don't want to attend the
- 7:16Speaker 1: needs of the child. They want to put them to sleep.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Troy Slayton, he said it. He said it right. Oh,
- 7:24Speaker 1: Maroney's not just an medical examiner, an author, He's a father,
- 7:28Speaker 1: a father. Troy Slayton, California defense lawyer. Bottom line, you
- 7:31Speaker 1: know what it is. She didn't want to take care
- 7:33Speaker 1: of the children says she doped him up with ben
- 7:35Speaker 1: a drill and baby Harper died. So in my mind
- 7:39Speaker 1: this should be murder, not manslaughter. Well that's one theory, Nancy,
- 7:43Speaker 1: But every death of a child isn't necessarily a crime.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Well this one is. Yes, If doctor Maroney's theory is true,
- 7:50Speaker 1: that all these children are being dosed with benadrill or
- 7:54Speaker 1: diphan hydromine, then yes, there that would appear to be
- 7:58Speaker 1: a pattern, enna and a common scheme. But maybe and
- 8:04Speaker 1: this this certified daycare provider who's been doing this for
- 8:10Speaker 1: over twenty years and has never had a death on
- 8:13Speaker 1: her hands, if she was doing this for the benefit
- 8:17Speaker 1: of the child, maybe the child was out of the
- 8:19Speaker 1: child what benefits, Maybe the child was Maybe the child
- 8:23Speaker 1: was having some sort of allergic reaction, Maybe the child
- 8:26Speaker 1: was having hives or something for which dife in hydramine
- 8:29Speaker 1: is properly indicated, and the daycare provider acting in loco
- 8:33Speaker 1: parentes in place of the parents. Oh, Troy, the Latin
- 8:39Speaker 1: phrases that is not that is not impressing me. Well
- 8:44Speaker 1: you're telling me, well, maybe something happened with baby Harper
- 8:46Speaker 1: and she needed benadryl well number one the amount in
- 8:49Speaker 1: her system. If you just heard Maroney was way over
- 8:52Speaker 1: the top. But speaking of a pre existing condition while
- 8:56Speaker 1: she's sick, did she have hives? Take a listen to
- 8:58Speaker 1: our friends at wt E N TV, John Gray and
- 9:01Speaker 1: Lydia Kilbia. We are learning more tonight about the circumstances
- 9:04Speaker 1: surrounding the six month old found unresponsive at her daycare. Yeah,
- 9:08Speaker 1: the recently released autopsy results show that this child ingested
- 9:12Speaker 1: high concentrations of diphen hydromeme, that the active sedating ingredient
- 9:16Speaker 1: you'll find in the overcounter antihistamines. Things like Benadrill. Newsten
- 9:20Speaker 1: Samantha Damascio sat down with their parents exclusively. Sam joins
- 9:23Speaker 1: us live in Rutland tell me that their baby girl,
- 9:26Speaker 1: Harper Rose Brier, was one hundred percent healthy that morning
- 9:30Speaker 1: of January twenty fourth when they dropped her off at daycare,
- 9:33Speaker 1: And they never told the sitter to give her any
- 9:36Speaker 1: kind of medication, nor did that sitter ever ask for permission. So,
- 9:40Speaker 1: as you can imagine, they were shocked when they got
- 9:42Speaker 1: the results of that autopsy. Defendants sedated a otherwise beautiful, happy,
- 9:48Speaker 1: healthy six month old to the point where that baby
- 9:51Speaker 1: could not lift her head and died. Bryer was pronounced
- 9:54Speaker 1: dead while and round to the Rutland Regional Medical Center.
- 9:57Speaker 1: State police say Thatllencourt was the infants only caregiver leading
- 10:01Speaker 1: up to her death, and had been in her care
- 10:03Speaker 1: for the two days prior. The autopsy shows the infant
- 10:06Speaker 1: died of dyfan hydramine intoxication. Her death was ruled a homicide.
- 10:12Speaker 1: State is alleging that the defendant acted criminally negligent and
- 10:16Speaker 1: because of that action, the child died. Harperbrier died, so
- 10:21Speaker 1: stay We'll be arguing that she acted with a criminal
- 10:23Speaker 1: negligent intent. Valancourt and her attorney, Robert McCullen, declined to
- 10:27Speaker 1: comment on the case. Following today's court proceedings, she was
- 10:31Speaker 1: released on a twenty five thousand dollars security bond. She
- 10:34Speaker 1: must not have contact with any children under the age
- 10:37Speaker 1: of five, with the exception of her nine month old grandson.
- 10:40Speaker 1: She will be back in court next month. That's our
- 10:43Speaker 1: friend at w v NYTV Spencer Collin speaking with the
- 10:47Speaker 1: state's attorney, Rosemary Kennedy, about baby Harper's death after being
- 10:53Speaker 1: odd overdosed with ben a drill. I mean see graces
- 10:57Speaker 1: his crime stories. Thank you for being with us, and
- 10:58Speaker 1: I can't think of him important topic than your children
- 11:02Speaker 1: at daycare? John Linley, Crime online dot Com investigator reporter,
- 11:05Speaker 1: What more do you know? For instance, what did the
- 11:08Speaker 1: daycare worker, owner Stacy Villancourt say when cops got there?
- 11:12Speaker 1: When EMTs got there, Villancourt told police that she found
- 11:15Speaker 1: Harper unresponsive a while after putting her down for a nap.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Valancourt told police she found Harper with a blanket covering
- 11:24Speaker 1: her face with vomit on it. Apparently Valancourt's son performed
- 11:29Speaker 1: CPR before the paramedics arrived with me, Director the Cold
- 11:33Speaker 1: Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum, Crime scene investigator Cheryl way In.
- 11:38Speaker 1: If this was my scene, Nancy, one of the first
- 11:40Speaker 1: things I would have done is I would have looked
- 11:42Speaker 1: to see how much vinegrille was in that daycare. Did
- 11:46Speaker 1: she have one bottle? Did she have twelve bottles? Did
- 11:48Speaker 1: she have like a two per side bottle? What was
- 11:51Speaker 1: the exploration day? How much was missing from the bottle? So,
- 11:56Speaker 1: in other words, I would want to see did she
- 11:58Speaker 1: buy this two days ago when half of it was
- 12:00Speaker 1: already gone? As she had it for three years? But
- 12:03Speaker 1: only a little bit was missing. That to me would
- 12:05Speaker 1: be very critical to show how much of this is
- 12:08Speaker 1: she really, you know, passing out to all these children
- 12:11Speaker 1: to knock them out so she didn't have to deal
- 12:12Speaker 1: with them, you know, to doctor William Moroney, how much
- 12:16Speaker 1: bena drill is safe for children. Let me tell you
- 12:19Speaker 1: a story. When the twins were firstborn, let's just say
- 12:24Speaker 1: they were about six to eight months old. I could
- 12:27Speaker 1: not find anywhere we were living in New York. I
- 12:30Speaker 1: could not find anywhere when we visited Atlanta that had
- 12:35Speaker 1: what we call bucket swings because they couldn't sit up,
- 12:37Speaker 1: and they would be up all night one up at
- 12:39Speaker 1: twelve thirty one, at one thirty, one, at three thirty,
- 12:42Speaker 1: and they'd both be awake by about five. So by
- 12:46Speaker 1: five thirty they were ready to go, and I would
- 12:48Speaker 1: take them out of the house and we go to
- 12:49Speaker 1: a playground. Well, I found a playground with bucket swings
- 12:53Speaker 1: is behind the church, and I put them both in
- 12:55Speaker 1: the bucket swings. I'd been swinging them both. I was
- 12:57Speaker 1: there alone with them, and they both fell asleep. Well,
- 13:01Speaker 1: they hadn't been up but about you know, forty five
- 13:03Speaker 1: minutes to an hour I knew something was really wrong.
- 13:06Speaker 1: As it turned out, they had a really backhold. I
- 13:10Speaker 1: had given them ben a drill. I found out my husband,
- 13:13Speaker 1: who was not allowed to dispense medicine, had also given
- 13:17Speaker 1: them ben and drill. Can I tell you how much
- 13:19Speaker 1: I flipped out? Flipped out? They were asleep in their buckets,
- 13:22Speaker 1: swings slumped over. Well, I nearly had a fit, Doctor Moroney,
- 13:28Speaker 1: how much bena drill is safe to give children at
- 13:33Speaker 1: this stage? Zero none? And the story period zero without positions,
- 13:38Speaker 1: guidance and possible hospitalization zero to six months old. Zero none.
- 13:45Speaker 1: How about that? That's a pretty clear answer to Karen
- 13:48Speaker 1: Stark Psychologists joining us out of Manhattan, creator of Karen
- 13:51Speaker 1: Stark dot com. Karen, why would you dope children? You're
- 13:55Speaker 1: a daycare provider. You're there to take care of the children,
- 13:57Speaker 1: not dope them up and let them sleep till they've
- 14:00Speaker 1: I'm in on their blanket and you don't even know
- 14:01Speaker 1: about it, you know, Nancy. I will wonder how much
- 14:04Speaker 1: they actually vetted this person, the one that was in
- 14:07Speaker 1: charge of the children, because she is there to deal
- 14:11Speaker 1: with children, whether they're crying, they're sick, whatever is happening,
- 14:15Speaker 1: and if there's a problem she's supposed to cause somebody
- 14:17Speaker 1: Carl a physician. So I don't understand how in the
- 14:21Speaker 1: world this person would be able to administer any kind
- 14:26Speaker 1: of vent and drill to this child without parental permission
- 14:29Speaker 1: or the physician having said she could do it. Something
- 14:32Speaker 1: was really wrong with her. Villaincourt's lawyer enter, not guilty, please,
- 14:36Speaker 1: forty relatives or so and supporters a baby Harper and
- 14:41Speaker 1: the family in the courtroom wearing pink Justice for Harper
- 14:45Speaker 1: Rose T shirts. And what I'm thinking about right now,
- 14:49Speaker 1: Troyce Layton, is what that family is going through. Their
- 14:53Speaker 1: baby is dead. There's no nice way to say it.
- 14:58Speaker 1: And now all they can do print up T shirts
- 15:00Speaker 1: and show up to court. I mean, if I didn't
- 15:03Speaker 1: have my children, Troy, I would I would have no
- 15:05Speaker 1: reason to live. And they are left with printing up
- 15:08Speaker 1: T shirts and showing up to court. I mean, I
- 15:11Speaker 1: cannot even imagine their desolation. Troice Lton, I can't imagine
- 15:15Speaker 1: it either. It must be the absolute worst thing that
- 15:18Speaker 1: a person could experience in their life. Now there is
- 15:22Speaker 1: a civil remedy that won't bring their child back, but
- 15:26Speaker 1: they will certainly file a lawsuit against this daycare provider,
- 15:30Speaker 1: against her insurance company. She's a certified state certified daycare provider,
- 15:36Speaker 1: so there will be a wrongful death lawsuit alleging negligence
- 15:40Speaker 1: against this daycare provider. And I'm sure that I hear
- 15:43Speaker 1: are you will tender the policy limits? Well, I understand
- 15:46Speaker 1: they can sue civilar, I get it, but you know,
- 15:49Speaker 1: an emotional level, there's no way to replace a child.
- 15:54Speaker 1: To John Linley Crime online dot Com investigate Eve reporter,
- 15:58Speaker 1: I understand that the night before Villancourt, who's charged in
- 16:04Speaker 1: this case, a fifty three year old daycare provider, son
- 16:07Speaker 1: and his fiancee both say they got sick the night
- 16:10Speaker 1: before and they could not help with the children that day,
- 16:14Speaker 1: so she had all the children by herself. She didn't
- 16:18Speaker 1: have her regular daycare crew. Take a listen to this
- 16:20Speaker 1: investigator say there was no physicians order and that Valancourt
- 16:24Speaker 1: was the only person to provide care to Brier before
- 16:26Speaker 1: her death on January twenty fourth, which was Briar's third
- 16:30Speaker 1: day attending Valancourt's daycare facility, which has since been shut down,
- 16:35Speaker 1: and the Rutland County States Attorney Robes Kennedy says the
- 16:38Speaker 1: family is just asking for privacy at this difficult time
- 16:41Speaker 1: and they just want justice for Harper Rose. That was
- 16:44Speaker 1: our friend at WCAXTV, Dom Lamotto reporting to doctor William Maroney.
- 16:51Speaker 1: From what you're telling me, doctor Moroni, vine Driel's main
- 16:55Speaker 1: ingredient is difan hydroman Are you telling me that there
- 16:59Speaker 1: is a build up up, a build up like if
- 17:01Speaker 1: you take it three days in a row, it builds
- 17:03Speaker 1: up in your system. And if that's true, how can
- 17:06Speaker 1: they tell how much was administered the day of baby
- 17:08Speaker 1: Harper's death. Well, difan hydromene will go through metabolism and
- 17:13Speaker 1: there'll be so much that you would call a parent
- 17:15Speaker 1: drug and so much you would call a metabolite. And
- 17:18Speaker 1: the higher the dose of the metabolite, the longer the
- 17:22Speaker 1: medication was dispensed. But you also have the fact that
- 17:26Speaker 1: it's going to reach certain organs in the brain. At autopsy,
- 17:30Speaker 1: they're gonna take brain slices and they're going to see
- 17:33Speaker 1: how much got in the brain, and they'll take levels
- 17:36Speaker 1: of tissues. It's also important they did the death certificate.
- 17:40Speaker 1: That medical examiner said homicide period end story. Homicide is important,
- 17:47Speaker 1: so it builds up, it's not allowed to be given
- 17:51Speaker 1: in children at that age at all without a doctor
- 17:54Speaker 1: and homicide crime stories with Nancy Grace, daycare owner is
- 18:14Speaker 1: free tonight after denying charges of manslaughter and child cruelty
- 18:18Speaker 1: in the death of an infant in January, and autopsy
- 18:21Speaker 1: found high concentrations of over the counter or antihistamine medications
- 18:25Speaker 1: in the girl's bloodstream. Local twenty two Spencer Conlin has
- 18:28Speaker 1: more from Rutland an emotional courtroom as family and friends
- 18:32Speaker 1: of Harper Rose Brier watched Stacy Valancourt charged with manslaughter
- 18:38Speaker 1: and cruelty to a child. A few dozen family and
- 18:41Speaker 1: friends wore pink Justice for Harper Rose shirts money as
- 18:45Speaker 1: a shackled Valancourt, a childcare provider in Rutland for more
- 18:49Speaker 1: than twenty years, entered court, we would enter a plea
- 18:53Speaker 1: of not guilty to each of the counts. Court documents
- 18:55Speaker 1: show police responded to the fifty three year olds state
- 18:58Speaker 1: certified in home daycare center on January twenty fourth, where
- 19:02Speaker 1: Brier was found on responsive. You were hearing from our
- 19:05Speaker 1: friends at wv NYTV talking about the report that this baby,
- 19:11Speaker 1: baby Harper, dies at daycare. Odd On Benadrill also the
- 19:17Speaker 1: caregiver Stacy Valancourt pleads not guilty. Now she is apparently
- 19:22Speaker 1: charged with some type of a manslaughter. But in my mind,
- 19:26Speaker 1: when you give a child an overdose of benadrill and
- 19:29Speaker 1: that child dies, that's a murder because remember a choice Laton, California,
- 19:34Speaker 1: devinse lawyer. That's like saying, oh, I raised the gun
- 19:38Speaker 1: and pull the trigger, but I didn't mean to kill
- 19:40Speaker 1: the person. This is like saying, yeah, I poured an
- 19:43Speaker 1: overdose of benadrael and gave it to a healthy little baby,
- 19:45Speaker 1: but I didn't mean to kill her. That's murder. Prosecutors, here,
- 19:49Speaker 1: Nancy didn't feel that she had the appropriate level of
- 19:53Speaker 1: men's ray a guilty mind. That's necessary to charge somebody
- 19:58Speaker 1: with murder. In order to large murder, you have to
- 20:01Speaker 1: have had the intent to kill, and it doesn't look
- 20:05Speaker 1: like that's what she was going to do. Here. We
- 20:08Speaker 1: don't know whether or not she was dosing the child
- 20:11Speaker 1: for the purposes, for her own sick purposes of having
- 20:14Speaker 1: the child go to sleep to make it easier to
- 20:17Speaker 1: run her. Right there, right there, you've admitted murder because
- 20:22Speaker 1: if she dosed a child, overdosed and the baby dies,
- 20:26Speaker 1: that's murder. That's like may pointing a gun and you're
- 20:29Speaker 1: in and pulling the trigger and go, oh, I didn't
- 20:31Speaker 1: mean to scare him. It may have been gross negligence.
- 20:35Speaker 1: She may have had experience over her twenty years running
- 20:40Speaker 1: this daycare center, giving an occasional dose of ben a
- 20:43Speaker 1: drill and having there be no problem in thinking that
- 20:46Speaker 1: this was something that was appropriate to do, something appropriate
- 20:51Speaker 1: to do. John Limley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
- 20:54Speaker 1: what more can you tell me? Well, Harper's autopsy showed
- 20:58Speaker 1: diphenhydramne blood concentration of six hundred seventy nanograms per millimeter. Now,
- 21:05Speaker 1: to put that in layman's terms, the chief medical examiner
- 21:08Speaker 1: says that's about eight times the average blood concentration for
- 21:12Speaker 1: a baby of Harper's weight. Incidentally, the parents told police
- 21:17Speaker 1: that the day before Harper's death, Harper napped for an
- 21:22Speaker 1: unusually long time after coming home from daycare. And they
- 21:27Speaker 1: have said over and over again they never authorized the
- 21:31Speaker 1: ben a drill and that Harper did not have a
- 21:33Speaker 1: doctor's note ordering use of dife and hydromine. For those
- 21:37Speaker 1: of you just joining us, a beautiful baby girl, Harper
- 21:42Speaker 1: had only been in this daycare for three days. Her
- 21:45Speaker 1: mom thought long and hard before she decided to go
- 21:48Speaker 1: back to school. The husband had a full time job.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Just three days into it, she gets a text from
- 21:54Speaker 1: EMT's telling her Harper's in trouble. Her beautiful baby girl.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Le to doctor William Moroney, who has just told us
- 22:04Speaker 1: that no amount of bit a drill is appropriate for
- 22:08Speaker 1: a child this age. Well, that's followed up. Take a
- 22:14Speaker 1: listen to wte MTV Samantha DEMICEO. I actually got a
- 22:18Speaker 1: text message. It wasn't a call, So then I called
- 22:22Speaker 1: and I talked to an EMT person. She texted you, Yes,
- 22:29Speaker 1: what did she say? She said, baby is sick. Ambulance here,
- 22:35Speaker 1: go to hospital. Once the autopsy results were released, fifty
- 22:40Speaker 1: three year old Stacy Valancourt was arrested. She's now facing
- 22:43Speaker 1: charges of manslaughter and cruelty to a child. Well, Blake
- 22:46Speaker 1: and I both want for her, you know, the person
- 22:50Speaker 1: who's slowly taking care of her at that time, to
- 22:52Speaker 1: be held responsible. Still many unanswered questions. The family now
- 22:56Speaker 1: just hoping for justice for Harper. Really was no need
- 23:00Speaker 1: for it. There's no need to give a healthy, happy,
- 23:04Speaker 1: you know baby, any thing to sleep them. I mean,
- 23:10Speaker 1: there's just there really is no reason, and we don't understand,
- 23:13Speaker 1: and I don't know if we ever will understand. But
- 23:16Speaker 1: it's awful to Karen Start, psychologist. You can find her
- 23:19Speaker 1: at Karen Start dot com. Karen joining us from Manhattan today, Karen,
- 23:24Speaker 1: the parents have got to be out of their minds
- 23:27Speaker 1: because it was their decision to put her in the
- 23:29Speaker 1: daycare for mom and to go back to school, and
- 23:32Speaker 1: now the baby is dead. I can't even begin to
- 23:36Speaker 1: imagine how awful it is for them. Nancy. I think
- 23:38Speaker 1: of you, and I remember when the twins were born,
- 23:41Speaker 1: and I remember going to visit and how we had
- 23:45Speaker 1: to use hand sanitizeer, How careful you were, how important?
- 23:50Speaker 1: And these people think about it psychologically? How old they
- 23:54Speaker 1: every cover? I mean, are you talking about when I
- 23:56Speaker 1: made you take your shoes off before you came in
- 23:58Speaker 1: the apartment in Bay to you and Purel and made
- 24:02Speaker 1: you stand ex feet away from the children. Then to
- 24:07Speaker 1: go to a complete washdown and run down before I
- 24:11Speaker 1: was there. And I don't know how psychologically they are
- 24:15Speaker 1: going to be able to recover in any way. It
- 24:18Speaker 1: will always be there. They will get better, but they
- 24:21Speaker 1: will always remember the loss. Of this child. Something is
- 24:24Speaker 1: very wrong with what happened at the Stake Care Center,
- 24:28Speaker 1: as we all know, just terrible. My heart goes down
- 24:31Speaker 1: to me, me too, to doctor William Maroney, a medical examiner,
- 24:36Speaker 1: extraordinary author of American Narcan, an incredible book written by
- 24:41Speaker 1: doctor Moroney, one of the nation's leaders and opioid addiction
- 24:46Speaker 1: and the fight on it. You can find his book
- 24:49Speaker 1: on Amazon. American Narcan, Doctor Maroney, here's the problem. I mean,
- 24:54Speaker 1: there's so many problems, but there's one of the problems,
- 24:57Speaker 1: doctor Moroni, is that parents who love their children more
- 25:00Speaker 1: than anything in the world, like me. I see Ben
- 25:03Speaker 1: and Jill over the counter. It says it will help
- 25:06Speaker 1: your child if they have a cold, or if they're
- 25:08Speaker 1: having highs or an allergic reaction. I don't don't know.
- 25:11Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not
- 25:15Speaker 1: a pharmacist. So I don't know anything's wrong with giving
- 25:20Speaker 1: them Bena drill. But in this dosage, clearly it was
- 25:24Speaker 1: too much Ben andgrill. She had to know. I want
- 25:28Speaker 1: you to address giving children benagriel place. Here's what you have.
- 25:32Speaker 1: If you think your child is stuffy, if you think
- 25:35Speaker 1: your child has an allergic reaction. You seek an urgent
- 25:39Speaker 1: care already med or er, or you go to a
- 25:42Speaker 1: pediatrician and you say, help me, teach me what dose
- 25:47Speaker 1: do I give this child? And a professional ways the
- 25:51Speaker 1: child looks at your medicine and says, here's how you
- 25:54Speaker 1: do it. Don't buy any benadrul by infant bena drill.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Don't do anything without having a nurse practitioner, a family physician,
- 26:06Speaker 1: a physician's assistant, a qualified prescriber licensed by your state
- 26:12Speaker 1: to supervise the first dose to let you know everything
- 26:16Speaker 1: is safe. That's how we give benadrol. Is very happy baby,
- 26:31Speaker 1: always smiling. It's is perfect. Yeah, it's just like the
- 26:34Speaker 1: best way to describe her is perfect. These are the
- 26:37Speaker 1: precious memories Merissa Colburn and Blake Brier will cherish forever.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Their beautiful baby girl, Harper Rose Briar had just started crawling,
- 26:45Speaker 1: holding her bottle on her own and got her first tooth.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Dad Blake was working in mom Marissa decided to go
- 26:51Speaker 1: back to school full time for social work at Castleton University,
- 26:55Speaker 1: but she spent three months vetting daycare providers to make
- 26:58Speaker 1: sure she chose the right one. She says it was
- 27:01Speaker 1: hard enough, dropping Harper off with another person counting down
- 27:05Speaker 1: the minutes until they were together again. And on only
- 27:08Speaker 1: the third day of daycare, Marissa was just leaving school
- 27:11Speaker 1: on her way to the daycare to pick Harper up
- 27:14Speaker 1: when she got the news. You were hearing baby Harper
- 27:17Speaker 1: Rose Brier from home videos. That's BTE MTV Samantha Di
- 27:23Speaker 1: Machio speaking to Harper's mom, Marissa Colburn, and I'm just
- 27:26Speaker 1: imagining the mom watching videos, looking at photos I saw
- 27:30Speaker 1: she has left of Harper. She left Harper at daycare
- 27:34Speaker 1: on day three, she gets a text from EMTs. There's
- 27:37Speaker 1: a problem. Troy Slayton, California defense attorney. How can you
- 27:42Speaker 1: with a straight face argue that this was an accident
- 27:45Speaker 1: or negligence when it's clearly an overdose of beIN a drill.
- 27:50Speaker 1: She didn't even know the baby had vomited all over
- 27:53Speaker 1: her baby blanket because she wasn't taking care of the children.
- 27:57Speaker 1: She would have known that a child can vomit and
- 28:00Speaker 1: not make a lot of noise. What we really need
- 28:02Speaker 1: to look at is all the surrounding circumstances. Doctor Moroney
- 28:07Speaker 1: laid it out well at as well as your crime
- 28:10Speaker 1: scene investigator, We need to look at what the other
- 28:13Speaker 1: children had as far as dosage of benadrill. If all
- 28:17Speaker 1: these kids have hair samples that show positive for benadrill,
- 28:22Speaker 1: then this daycare provider is finished. And I agree with
- 28:25Speaker 1: you that they should charge murder in that instance. But
- 28:28Speaker 1: if this is an isolated incident and she was just
- 28:31Speaker 1: dosing this child for a legitimate purpose, some sort of
- 28:35Speaker 1: allergic reaction, some sort of hives, something for which benadrill
- 28:39Speaker 1: obviously not in this dose, would be indicated, then I
- 28:44Speaker 1: think we don't have a case of murder or even manslaughter,
- 28:47Speaker 1: and I think that it should be something even less,
- 28:50Speaker 1: like some sort of gross criminal negligence. I'm sure you do,
- 28:54Speaker 1: Troice Light, And I am sure you do, Troice Light
- 28:57Speaker 1: and renowned California defense lawyer. And now you see why
- 29:00Speaker 1: you wins so many cases. It's like a snake charmer.
- 29:02Speaker 1: If you listen long enough, you start swaying along and
- 29:05Speaker 1: believing that. But sometimes you just have the facts in
- 29:08Speaker 1: the law on your side. M let's talk about the facts.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Doctor William Moroney, medical examiner, author of American Narcan on Amazon.
- 29:16Speaker 1: You can't argue with the level of diphan hyjamine in
- 29:21Speaker 1: this baby girls system. You can't argue with that she
- 29:25Speaker 1: did not the baby Harper did not drive to CVS
- 29:29Speaker 1: and buy the benadrill and down it out in her
- 29:31Speaker 1: car in the parking lot. Somebody gave it to her
- 29:34Speaker 1: and it wasn't the parents, it was the daycare provider,
- 29:37Speaker 1: Stacy Villancourt. What does the evidence tell you, doctor Moroney
- 29:41Speaker 1: about the level of benadrill in this child's system. The
- 29:44Speaker 1: other thing we have to consider, babies don't metabolize like adults,
- 29:50Speaker 1: so it built higher. What you have is whatever dose
- 29:54Speaker 1: she got might have been on the first day, might
- 29:56Speaker 1: have been on the second day. But we have evidence
- 29:59Speaker 1: from the patient, the client when the deceased went home,
- 30:05Speaker 1: the parents said this baby slept like way too long.
- 30:11Speaker 1: That's physical evidence. That's a story that benagrul was given
- 30:16Speaker 1: previous to the day that she died, in addition to
- 30:20Speaker 1: benadryl was given on the day she died. So you
- 30:24Speaker 1: have at least two days where benegrol's given back to
- 30:27Speaker 1: back in a baby with the acceptable level of benegrul
- 30:30Speaker 1: without physician supervision is zero. And you have the medical
- 30:37Speaker 1: examiner's death certificate saying homicide this is no accident. Well,
- 30:42Speaker 1: wait a minute, when I don't get doctor Moroney, is
- 30:44Speaker 1: somewhere in that medical explanation I didn't get from you.
- 30:48Speaker 1: How much benajil you think the daycare woman Villancourt gave her?
- 30:52Speaker 1: Is that because you don't know if it's a build
- 30:54Speaker 1: up over the last two days. Well, how much benegel
- 30:58Speaker 1: do you think the child had in her system to
- 31:00Speaker 1: kill her? That she could have got infant benadrol and
- 31:04Speaker 1: would have been a high volume where she could have
- 31:05Speaker 1: got regular benadrol the low volume but a high concentration.
- 31:08Speaker 1: But the end result is to get to that six
- 31:11Speaker 1: hundred nanograms, that baby had to have between fifty and
- 31:15Speaker 1: one hundred milligrams, and those are adult doses that are
- 31:19Speaker 1: ten times the does to John Limley, Crime online dot
- 31:23Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter John Limley, how much did she have
- 31:26Speaker 1: in her system? I think you may know the answer
- 31:28Speaker 1: to that as well. Six hundred seventy nanograms per milli leader.
- 31:32Speaker 1: As I said before, the chief medical Examiner says, that's
- 31:35Speaker 1: about eight times the average blood concentration for a baby
- 31:38Speaker 1: of Harper's weight. What does that mean, Doctor Moroney? In
- 31:41Speaker 1: a nutshell and in regular people talk plays. Eight to
- 31:44Speaker 1: times the amount that was in her system means she
- 31:48Speaker 1: got ten times the amount that would have been a
- 31:50Speaker 1: normal dose under physician supervision, and the acceptable doses still
- 31:54Speaker 1: zero good gravy. Well, we know what the autopsy said, listen.
- 32:01Speaker 1: Defendants sedated he otherwise beautiful, happy, healthy six month old
- 32:07Speaker 1: to the point where that baby could not lift her
- 32:09Speaker 1: head and died. Bryer was pronounced dead while en round
- 32:13Speaker 1: to the Runtland Regional Medical Center. The State Police say
- 32:16Speaker 1: Valencourt was the infant's only caregiver leading up to her death,
- 32:20Speaker 1: and had been in her care for the two days prior.
- 32:22Speaker 1: The autopsy shows the infant died of difen hydramine intoxication.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Her death was ruled a homicide. The state is alleging
- 32:31Speaker 1: that the defendant acted criminally negligent and because of that action,
- 32:36Speaker 1: the child died. Harberbrier died, so state will be arguing
- 32:40Speaker 1: that she acted with a criminal negligent intent. Valencourt and
- 32:43Speaker 1: her attorney, Robert McCullen, declined to comment on the case.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Following today's court proceedings, she was released on a twenty
- 32:50Speaker 1: five thousand dollars security bond. She must not have contact
- 32:54Speaker 1: with any children under the age of five, with the
- 32:56Speaker 1: exception of her nine month old grandson. She will be
- 32:59Speaker 1: back in. We're hearing w v and YTV Spencer Colin
- 33:03Speaker 1: talking to the Rutland County States Attorney Rosemary Kennedy. And
- 33:07Speaker 1: just so you know, the state asked for a fifty
- 33:09Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond and a judge reduced that in half
- 33:13Speaker 1: to a twenty five thousand dollar bond, which she put
- 33:15Speaker 1: up twenty five hundred dollars to get out. Clearly, to
- 33:20Speaker 1: some people, a baby's life means less than an adult's life.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Why would you let somebody out on a case like
- 33:28Speaker 1: this where you've got a dead child on twenty five
- 33:31Speaker 1: hundred dollars payment to John Limley Crime online dot Com
- 33:35Speaker 1: investigative reporter, I got a question, why did the EMTs
- 33:39Speaker 1: contact the mother via text? Why didn't the daycare owner,
- 33:42Speaker 1: Stacy Villancourt call her. Well, we've found that information out
- 33:45Speaker 1: from the police. Harper's mother told the investigators there that
- 33:50Speaker 1: Villancourt didn't have emergency contact information for her the mother
- 33:56Speaker 1: to fill out, because her printer was broken. Every Thing
- 34:01Speaker 1: is wrong with this scenario. I am researching a book
- 34:06Speaker 1: I'm working on Don't Be a Victim, And one of
- 34:09Speaker 1: the chapters that took the most time for me to
- 34:12Speaker 1: write is your child safe at daycare with babysitters at
- 34:17Speaker 1: play school. And one of the first things I've learned
- 34:22Speaker 1: you're supposed to do is to have all of the
- 34:25Speaker 1: contacts emergency contacts, poison control, mom's number, dad's number, other
- 34:30Speaker 1: contact number, everything about whatever drugs, medications the child is
- 34:37Speaker 1: supposed to have or not. Everything is supposed to be
- 34:41Speaker 1: filled out so at the drop of a hat you
- 34:45Speaker 1: can be contact. I mean, it's just insult to injury.
- 34:49Speaker 1: She didn't call mommy because she didn't have her number
- 34:51Speaker 1: because her printer was broken. Oh we wait as justice
- 34:59Speaker 1: unfolds for baby Harper. Nancy Grace crime story signing up
- 35:04Speaker 1: Goodbye Friend,