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Mac & Bone Hour 1: CFP Rankings Are Out · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. Happy Wednesday. It is time
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  Speaker 4: It might be a work Wednesday for us. Panther's off today.
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  Speaker 4: We will discuss that on the radio show today. I
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  Speaker 4: will catch my breath at some point on this show.
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  Speaker 4: We've got college football playoff rankings, number one to discuss.
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  Speaker 4: We have, I think, a Conn Knipple return tonight to
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  Speaker 4: get into, and we have.
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  Speaker 1: Panther fans craving a 4-3 defense.
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  Speaker 4: Desperate for i mean fantasizing some of you could we
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  Speaker 4: play a four three uh we'll get into that too
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  Speaker 4: here on the mac and bone show we'll talk to
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  Speaker 4: panther cornerback who was out on the side working a
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  Speaker 4: little bit yesterday mike jackson uh man we want him
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  Speaker 4: back bad but we'll have him in studio promoting a
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  Speaker 4: very cool event he is doing this weekend bone man
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  Speaker 4: i have made it i have made it give me
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  Speaker 4: my oxygen mask what's going on what are you john
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  Speaker 4: riggins in the early 80s i gotta tell you though
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  Speaker 4: the one we love the building we love the building
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  Speaker 4: uh we love um everyone here But you put us
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  Speaker 4: in a building a decade ago with too many stairs.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: As we age and our bodies sort of betray us, we.
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  Speaker 1: Have too many stairs here. It's affecting my man back
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's the problem. I'm surprised you're not a full elevator
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  Speaker 3: guy yet. You're probably at that age, right?
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  Speaker 1: Early 50s?
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  Speaker 4: This is the only exercise I get, though, coming up
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  Speaker 4: the stairs. The problem is if I do it too
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  Speaker 4: close to airtime, I'm still winded.
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  Speaker 3: Finney would be very upset if you got stuck on
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  Speaker 3: the elevator during a show.
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  Speaker 1: We couldn't get you out of there. Yeah, what would
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  Speaker 1: he do? What would he do?
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  Speaker 4: There's no way he'd be out there trying to help.
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  Speaker 4: He would be in here taking over.
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  Speaker 3: He would walk by and say, Mac, we're working on
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  Speaker 3: this thing, as he's eating his cinnamon roll.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man, we've got juicy stuff. It's that time of year, man,
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  Speaker 4: where there is just stuff everywhere going on. I do love,
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  Speaker 4: even if some of the results lately in Charlotte, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: have not been what we wanted, I love having football
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  Speaker 4: season and then you start basketball season with it. I
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  Speaker 4: just love this time of year. We got Charlotte FC
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  Speaker 4: coming down the home stretch. So we got good things
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  Speaker 4: going on. We also, Bone, get to overreact and and
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  Speaker 4: get agitated by the first CFP rankings.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tradition unlike any other.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm watching the show last night because unlike Adam Goldbone,
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  Speaker 4: I will watch this show. I want to see what
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  Speaker 4: the talking points are. I want to see who I
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  Speaker 4: can yell at today and all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And Joey Galloway is like, we can't overreact to week one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Can't do it.
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  Speaker 4: And by the end of the show, he was as
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  Speaker 4: mad as, as ever in week one.
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  Speaker 1: McElroy said he was raring to go. He was ready
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  Speaker 1: to react. He's always mad after week one. These, these
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  Speaker 1: are weird rankings. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I also don't want to act like in week
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  Speaker 4: one that this is the end all and the be
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  Speaker 4: all we have so much football to play out and
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff, but it's just, there's so many things.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know bone.
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  Speaker 4: If it's just the weird season we have where no
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  Speaker 4: one looks great. Like, I kind of would– I have
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  Speaker 4: this case today to make that if you put anybody
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  Speaker 4: from two through five, I would complain about it. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I honestly don't know if anybody's deserving of two through five.
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  Speaker 4: There's reasons, I guess, everybody here early.
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  Speaker 3: Like, it's one of the– I tell you, though, this
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  Speaker 3: is the most fascinating– This could be the most fascinating
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  Speaker 3: stretch run of college football season because it's not a
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  Speaker 3: sport that's always had a lot of parity. Right now, Mac,
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  Speaker 3: how many cases could you make for teams that could
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  Speaker 3: make legitimate playoff runs this year? This is almost more
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  Speaker 3: like March Madness than we've seen before. Not that there's
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  Speaker 3: going to be a whole lot of Cinderella's per se,
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  Speaker 3: but when you look at the top 12, 13, 14, 15, 16,
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  Speaker 3: more than that in a moment, there are so many teams, Mac,
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  Speaker 3: that You know, you could question their resume and their ranking,
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  Speaker 3: but you could also see them making legit college football
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  Speaker 3: playoff Final Four runs.
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  Speaker 4: There's just not that much difference between a lot of
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  Speaker 4: these teams. And that's the one thing I'll say in
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  Speaker 4: fairness to the committee. Like I said, Bone, whoever was
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  Speaker 4: at 2, 3, 4, 5, I was probably going to say,
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  Speaker 4: they deserve to be up there. Um, even Miami at
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  Speaker 4: one has been teetering against teams that are all right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Florida state and North Carolina, Miami is number
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  Speaker 4: one that, that I don't think you can dispute that
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  Speaker 4: at eight and oh, even though they've had those close calls.
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  Speaker 4: That has to be the case, and I don't think
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  Speaker 4: anybody argued about that. Georgia is No. 2, 7-1. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think there's a lot of arguments, but you could
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  Speaker 4: certainly bring up that they have a horrendous loss to Auburn,
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  Speaker 4: and there they are sitting at 2. Utah is 8-0
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  Speaker 4: at No. 3. But who have they beaten at this
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  Speaker 4: point in time? Indiana's 4-1. Number four, who have they beaten?
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  Speaker 4: They're 8-1. They lost their one-rank game to Ohio State.
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  Speaker 4: Number five is Alabama. They're the highest two-loss team. How
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  Speaker 4: did they get up there? How did that happen, Bone?
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  Speaker 4: Did they not watch the Tennessee tape? And they have
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  Speaker 4: them eight spots ahead of Tennessee at 13.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of the craziest things of all that is
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  Speaker 3: how far apart they are.
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  Speaker 1: In Indiana and Ohio State. Turn that mic on, Bones O'Reilly.
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  Speaker 1: What you doing over there?
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  Speaker 3: I was handing you a piece of paper. That's one
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  Speaker 3: of the craziest things about that is the gap between Alabama, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 3: and Indiana, Ohio State.
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  Speaker 4: Indiana, Ohio State's also an eight-spot gap despite the head-to-head,
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  Speaker 4: but the committee chair tells us they got to be
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  Speaker 4: in the same pods for head-to-head to matter. but it's
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  Speaker 4: not like they release the pods and tell us. So
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  Speaker 4: it's just, it's, there's all kinds of stuff in here
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  Speaker 4: that could trigger you. It is week one. The committee
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  Speaker 4: loves them. Some sec. I think that's going to drive
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  Speaker 4: people crazy. Number six through 10, Kentucky, Texas, UCLA eight
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  Speaker 4: with the unbeaten record, BYU nine, Ole Miss 10, five
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  Speaker 4: of the top 10 are sec. Then you get to
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  Speaker 4: some controversial teams, Notre Dame, 11, Ohio State 12. Let
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  Speaker 4: me tell you right now, this was amazing to see
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  Speaker 4: on my television set. I hate these two elitist entities
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  Speaker 4: with every bit of hate that I can conjure up
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  Speaker 4: in my flabby body. But I'm telling you right now,
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame probably got screwed, Boney. By being number 11,
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  Speaker 4: and you look at this Miami game, the only ranked
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  Speaker 4: team left on their schedule, it could be do or die.
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  Speaker 4: And then Ohio State is 12 after the USC loss.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the committee chair was going to say.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they don't have their quarterback, and until they get
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  Speaker 4: their quarterback back, we're going to judge them this way,
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  Speaker 4: and they don't look like a team that's a top-ten team.
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  Speaker 4: But instead, Hunter Urachek comes out last night on the
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  Speaker 4: show and says something about how bad their defense looked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, but that was one game. We penalized it.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I could go through this whole rankings of teams
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  Speaker 4: ahead of them whose units have looked bad for one game.
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  Speaker 4: They beat the number four team. So there's some– we
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  Speaker 4: haven't gotten to Wake yet. There's so much to just
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  Speaker 4: nitpick and complain about. I mean, I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 4: really honestly where to start. I mean, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you could go about 20 different directions here. I'll start
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  Speaker 4: with the Notre Dame part of it since you just
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  Speaker 4: brought that up here. I actually think, Mac– in a
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  Speaker 4: weird way, even though, you know, Notre Dame season is
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  Speaker 4: on the line, essentially almost, a mirror to last year,
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  Speaker 4: or if they get to here, they're most likely done.
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  Speaker 4: I think Notre Dame actually benefits from that and having
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  Speaker 4: playing Miami the week of the first rankings, because not
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  Speaker 4: that it wasn't important before, but if Notre Dame Mac
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  Speaker 4: was ranked, you know, four or five or six, they
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  Speaker 4: feel comfortable. The fact that Notre Dame has their season
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  Speaker 4: on the line at home against the team that they
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  Speaker 4: were compared with last year, to me, this is going
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  Speaker 4: to be treated like, a high level playoff game for
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame. So I actually think that the, the angst
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  Speaker 4: of the moment here will benefit Notre Dame in this.
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  Speaker 1: I like them in this spot.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I liked him in the spot before the rankings,
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  Speaker 4: but I think you do have a point where Marcus
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  Speaker 4: Freeman could say, they're trying to do it to us again.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: And I just find it funny. Their whole saying going
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  Speaker 4: into the season was leave no doubt. And now there's
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  Speaker 4: plenty of doubt. They are with all the doubt in
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  Speaker 4: the world. I just, I just find this amusing. I
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  Speaker 4: know I'm a hater. I know I'm petty, but I
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  Speaker 4: find it amusing. Ohio State at 12, I find amusing.
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  Speaker 4: Wake Forest at 16, I don't find amusing. I do
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  Speaker 4: not find it amusing. And there's a couple of teams
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  Speaker 4: I would call out, Bone, ahead of them. Texas Tech
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  Speaker 4: right ahead of them. At 15, LSU right ahead of
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  Speaker 4: them at 14. I would call out those two teams
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  Speaker 4: and say, can't wake at least be 14. But I
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  Speaker 4: do understand when you don't have a ranked win, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean? And I think Louisville going in
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  Speaker 4: and losing the state after they beat them hurts them,
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  Speaker 4: you know, SMU drops out of the rankings. So if,
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  Speaker 4: when they play them next week, it won't be a
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  Speaker 4: ranked game so that hurts Wake too so it's just
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  Speaker 4: it feels like Wake's in a spot bone that we've
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  Speaker 4: talked about they've got to win the ACC I think
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  Speaker 4: that's the only chance right we.
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  Speaker 3: Can talk about metrics and schedule and it was one
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  Speaker 3: of the first things I forget who brought it up
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  Speaker 3: last night but just the eye test of Wake Forest
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  Speaker 3: right now and you look at some of these teams Utah, Indiana, Kentucky, UCLA, BYU.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of teams right there that are good
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  Speaker 3: that Wake, if they're playing head-to-head right now, Wake can
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  Speaker 3: compete and beat some of those teams right now.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely don't dispute that. But their resume, though. I
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  Speaker 1: understand that.
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  Speaker 3: But just a football eye test, they're better than number
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  Speaker 3: 16 right now. I understand how the whole thing operates.
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  Speaker 3: But they'd be, if they got in the playoffs right
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  Speaker 3: now and got matched up against Kentucky, Wake Forest would
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  Speaker 3: win that football game. I think they have a very
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  Speaker 3: good chance to win the gas. I said that the
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  Speaker 3: other day when, when I saw that that was the, the,
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  Speaker 3: the seat, the six 11 game in the athletic bracket,
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  Speaker 3: which doesn't do wake any good that they made the
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  Speaker 3: 11 seed in the athletic bracket, but yeah, they, they
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  Speaker 3: could definitely get Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: They could be in that game too.
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  Speaker 4: That's not what I'm disputing, but this is the Taylor's
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  Speaker 4: oldest time with the ACC. It's like their resumes look
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  Speaker 4: flimsy because there's not enough ranked teams.
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  Speaker 1: There's not enough great wins.
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  Speaker 4: Whereas the SEC, they cannibalize each other, and they all
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  Speaker 4: benefit from it.
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  Speaker 3: This year, more than ever.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like for the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I just heard your guy, Cold Cubes, he was on–
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  Speaker 3: Cold Cubelic, not Cold Cubes. That sounded– Is that your nickname?
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  Speaker 1: The cool people call him that.
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  Speaker 3: Cole Kubelik was on ESPN Radio Audio before we came
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  Speaker 3: on about what a test of the committee this will
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  Speaker 3: be this year. They have not put a three loss
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  Speaker 3: team in there. And the SEC, the way they're going
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  Speaker 3: to cannibalize each other, there's going to be a ton
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  Speaker 3: of teams with three losses they got to choose from
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  Speaker 3: this year. And trying to differentiate between... This three-loss team
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  Speaker 3: in the SEC, this one and this one, because Missouri's
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  Speaker 3: a factor in there as well. They've got two losses
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  Speaker 3: right now. Tennessee's got two losses. South Carolina's got three
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  Speaker 3: at the moment. You know Kentucky, Mac, is going to
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  Speaker 3: pile up a few more. There is going to be
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss has two right now. LSU has two right now.
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  Speaker 3: There is going to be so many three-loss teams. How
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  Speaker 3: are they going to? How are they going to pick
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  Speaker 3: and choose what matters and all those different things? I
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  Speaker 3: think there will be multiple three-loss SEC teams in the bracket.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Multiple.
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  Speaker 4: And there's only been one at-large team in the 12-team
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  Speaker 4: bracket with three losses. That was Alabama last year. Clemson
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  Speaker 4: made it with three losses, but they, they had to
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  Speaker 4: get it. They got the auto bid two years ago by,
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  Speaker 4: by beating SMU and winning the ACC championship. I do
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  Speaker 4: know this bone. I don't know how they'll just, uh,
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  Speaker 4: how they'll decide between three loss SEC teams. I'd love
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  Speaker 4: to see South Carolina run the table and get into
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  Speaker 4: that conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I do know this. They'll go over a two loss
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  Speaker 1: weight team. Every one of them.
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  Speaker 4: Three losses for SEC team. That's why I say Wake
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  Speaker 4: has to win the damn ACC. And it sucks, man.
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  Speaker 1: It does. Is there any chance that a four-loss SEC
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  Speaker 1: team gets in? I would say no on that one.
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  Speaker 3: I would say they'll have their pick of the litter.
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  Speaker 3: There'll be one there, though, that they at least debate
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  Speaker 3: for a little bit because of the amount of... As
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  Speaker 3: I said, cannibalism within the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: If there was the 2014 playoff field right now, if
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  Speaker 4: they were using it right now, they would have nine
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  Speaker 4: SEC teams in it. As again, they've got plenty of
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  Speaker 4: football to play and we're not using the 2014 playoff
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  Speaker 4: until probably next year. Not official, but probably next year.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, we'll talk all about it. South Carolina 21.
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  Speaker 4: We'll talk about that as well. There's no room for
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  Speaker 4: error for them, but it's cool to see them up
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  Speaker 4: in there. You know, highest three-loss team. The committee agreed
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  Speaker 4: with Fitty. Fitty declared the other day they're the best
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  Speaker 4: three-loss team in America. And there they were slightly ahead
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  Speaker 4: of Oregon and ahead of a Florida team that they
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  Speaker 4: beat down pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: If they beat Kentucky in their 6-2 with the way
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  Speaker 3: that they're playing. Mississippi State too, but... Kentucky with where
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  Speaker 3: they're ranked. If the Gamecocks finish the deal in that game,
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  Speaker 3: where are the Gamecocks ranked today? All things the same
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  Speaker 3: since then, but if they beat Kentucky in their 6-2,
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  Speaker 3: where would the Gamecocks be? Would they be in that
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee LSU territory? They'd have to be ahead of LSU
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  Speaker 3: because LSU doesn't have a ranked win. And they beat Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: So they'd be ahead of LSU. Although it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: They beat Tennessee. Well, it would put them in the
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  Speaker 4: same pod, I'm guessing. They don't tell us exactly how
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  Speaker 4: it works. But they say if you're in the same pod,
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  Speaker 4: head-to-head matters. So I think then you'd have a chance
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  Speaker 4: where they'd be ahead, maybe 13, maybe?
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  Speaker 1: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: If they beat Kentucky. But I've got news for you, Boe.
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  Speaker 4: They did not beat Kentucky. But it's fun to talk
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  Speaker 4: about how close they freaking are, man.
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  Speaker 1: That was my point.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, let's talk about, let's bring it back to Charlotte
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  Speaker 4: sports here.
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  Speaker 1: I said it earlier.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to talk plenty of Panthers, let you hear
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  Speaker 4: some of the defensive player reaction. to Averroes firing coming
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  Speaker 4: up here in a little bit. I do want to
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  Speaker 4: mention that they have gone again, Bone, with their post-buy plan,
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  Speaker 4: which worked. They beat Philly post-buy. They have done the
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: thing where they practice Monday and Tuesday. Tuesday is usually
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  Speaker 4: the off day. But coming off this quote-unquote mini-bye, they
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  Speaker 4: practiced yesterday, and they will take off today. So we'll
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  Speaker 4: see if that can give us a win. I have
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  Speaker 4: a feeling, Bone, that strategy alone did not help us
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  Speaker 4: beat Philly. It might have been something to do with
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  Speaker 4: their O-line and Tanner McKee playing quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: But they're trying it again. That has something to do
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  Speaker 1: with it.
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  Speaker 3: Also, the announce group for that game was Ian Eagle,
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  Speaker 3: Ross Tucker, Evan Washburn, a very high-level crew back for CBS.
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  Speaker 1: We have that crew again this weekend. Same crew? Same crew. Nice.
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  Speaker 1: I like that crew. That's a good crew, man.
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  Speaker 3: Very good. Ross Tucker is an emerging star. And, of course,
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  Speaker 3: Ian Eagle is the best. And Evan Washburn's got just
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  Speaker 3: terrific hair.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, man.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's got something for you on that crew. So I
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: don't want to jinx it and declare that Khan Kanipal
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: is definitely back tonight.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: But the Hornets made him probable.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Last night when they put out their injury report for
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: tonight's game against the Brooklyn Nets, Brooklyn's 1-6. You said
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: it yesterday. It's just, again, I'm not going to do
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: the whole must-win routine, but it just feels like a
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: game that they really could use a W in, especially
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: with who's coming up next. And Kobe is also probable.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: They had him on the injury report with injury management. Um,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: but if the probables play bony, we got both these
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: boys in the lineup together tonight.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Knock on wood. Yeah, you're right.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: You can't say it's a must win November 4th. However,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: tonight would be five losses in a row. They'd be
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: three and six. Boston, Cleveland's up next. And then they
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: go west for a little roadie. And Atlanta's in there
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: as well. Matt, there's a huge difference in the mindset
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: and what we think of this team if they're 4-5
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: versus 3-6. It doesn't matter who they're playing tonight. They
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: need to win desperately just for the optics of this
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: team just feeling good about themselves. Because if they go
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: in with one more loss to the teams they're playing next,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: that record could start. We're talking about keeping their heads
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: above water. Well, then you're starting to look at are
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: they going to go three and seven, three and eight.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Then it starts to get kind of ugly. We don't
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: need that right now.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: I just I do have to do this at the
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: risk bone of giving saying something positive when this town
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: does not want it. We started four and 14 last year.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: It's a good point. Why did we start four and 14?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Because of injuries. Why are we three and five right now?
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Because of injuries. And because the injuries have helped make
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: our offense the worst in the league efficiency-wise. But it
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: does need to be said. 4-14 last year. And I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: not saying, Bone, they're going to be as good as
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: they were after that. But it does feel like people
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: are declaring the sky is falling after eight games of
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: an 82-game season.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I've got to tell you, we're not the only ones.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Orlando's 2-5. Miami's 2-5. The Hawks, who looked like the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Harlem Globetrotters against us, are 4-4. Wizards are actually above 500. Mac,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: have you ever seen a Southern division that's just so
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: mediocre in sports before?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: No, would never happen. What never happened in football, y'all.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Canes lose last night 4-1, only their third loss of
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: the season so far this season.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: To Nashville.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I had to strain to remember who they played last night.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to give you one hockey note last night.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: History was made, and we don't normally talk Winnipeg Jets, Mac,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: during this segment here. They did something last night that's
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: never been done before, and I could not believe what
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I saw. The Winnipeg Jets, Mac, trailed 4-0. With 240
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: to go in the game against Montreal, they won the
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: game 5-4 in overtime.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: They scored four goals at the end of regulation in
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: two minutes and 40 seconds. That's crazy.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Well, that right there is our inspiration. Our teams aren't
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: out of it. The Winnipeg Jets weren't out of it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Our teams aren't out of it, baby.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: radio program, we have a lot of Panthers. Todd, defensive
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: players react to the Vero news. Bryce talks about his
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: knee injury and Canales on his instructions to new D.C.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Todd Walsh. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: You know, definitely, you know, as a player, you don't
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: want to be, you know, part of the reason, right?
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: You know, someone gets fired. But I think, you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: it's one of those things where, you know, we definitely
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: respect them as a man. And, you know, you hate it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: But unfortunately, we've got to play this weekend. So it's
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: a tough situation.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That is Derek. Brown interviewed in front of his locker.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Yesterday talking about his reaction to Jiro Overo being fired.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Cooley let go, too. And we also found out
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: yesterday that the Panthers, as well, Bone, have parted ways recently.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: with one of their linebackers coaches in a guy that
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: had also had Averro ties. It basically seems like Bone,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: even Robert Rochelle, who was released in the practice squad,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: is a guy that came with Averro and Cooley or
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: had experience with Averro and Cooley.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Previously.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Um, but mayor shout Hari, who was, uh, the assistant
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: linebackers coach, we found out yesterday is gone and shout
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: out to Vashti hurt for digging that up. She, she, uh, um,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Saul on the team. I don't know if she got
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: a tip on it or whatever. But sure enough, looked
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: at the team website. He was gone and started sniffing around.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: And Canales confirmed it, that he is gone. He and
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Averro also have a long-term relationship. So basically, Bone, if
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: you ever talk to a Giro Averro, there is a chance.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: That you have to change jobs. i've talked to him
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: before so.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: Be on the lookout boat be on the lookout.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Mac we have some uh source panther information this morning
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: coming in and i will give you that information at
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the end of this segment so it's uh it's a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: rather big scoop from mike florio and i will give
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: you that here uh shortly as we go through this
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: panther segment.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Okay okay that's juicy bone that's a juicy tease right
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: there um the panther you're gonna want to stick around
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: for this one You, don't go anywhere.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Now, don't go down the stairs because then you can't
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: get back up and you breathe heavy. People are worried
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: about your breathing, by the way.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stay right. They are worried about me.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: They think you need some form of yoga. Me and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin, should I do the Lane Kiffin hot yoga?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: It seems to be working for him.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine a video of the three of us
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: in a hot yoga class? Stroh's tried to get us
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to go before, man.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: She's tried. Well, no, she tried to get us to yoga.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I suggested hot yoga, and her quote was, you'll die.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: End quote.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Should we start with room temperature yoga first? Is that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: what you're telling me?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I want to try that goat yoga where the goats
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: walk on you. Don't really know the point of that one,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: but I don't know the point.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Sounds fun.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know the point of a lot of exercise.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: So anyway, a couple other things I would throw in here, Bone,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: in terms of news items. The Panthers... have also added
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: a linebacker who Mike K points out for three experience
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: in Cleveland, Muhammad Diabate, who's played in all games last
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: year for Cleveland, six starts, 49 tackles. So he was
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: added to the practice squad as we try to figure
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: out where the defense goes.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody wants a Diabate on their squad right now.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: So we could have Musa and Muhammad Diabate, baby. If
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: he plays with half the effort of Musa, it's a
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: good addition. I'll just say that. That'll be Walker Mayles'
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: favorite player.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'll just say, yes. I'll just say that right there.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I hope the crowd, if he makes a tackle, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: hope the crowd gives him a moose. Moose! We need
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: to make that happen. That needs to happen.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: If we can Luke every white linebacker, I believe we
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: can moose Eddie Diabate. Need to mention the injury situations. Again,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: the injury report comes out today. It'll be like an
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: estimated projected injury report because they're not practicing today.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But yesterday.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: No Damian Lewis, no Jalen Phillips, no Will Lee at
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: practice yesterday.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: They did have their three IR corners working on the side.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It was something.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: We'll talk to Mike Jackson when he's in studio with
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: us today about his rehab. But Jackson Horn and Evans
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: were all working on the side. Brady See is back practicing.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: So that's good news for the O-line. Damian Lewis, I mentioned,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: did not practice. But they did have guards.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Corey Bullock and Torricelli Simpkins practicing yesterday. So that's a
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: look bone at who is out there on the practice field.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Any offensive lineman, you're on call. You get near that
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: football field, Torricelli, we may need you out there, big dog. Yes,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: it's all hands on deck, man. I also like saying
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the name Torricelli. Torricelli.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Torricelli. So, yeah, it's a cool name. Cool name.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Local kid, too, man. Okay, so let's go to Coach Canales.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: He and Bryce both had their pressers that normally would
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: be Wednesday pressers. They were held yesterday on Tuesday, which was,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of their work Wednesday practice. So let's
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: go to Dave Canales. When he was asked what his
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: message was... to new defensive coordinator Todd Walsh?
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Stop the run. I'm going to be really vague with
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: this answer, but it's got to start with the run game.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: We have to have a commitment collectively as a part
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: of this organization to be able to run the ball
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: efficiently and to be able to stop the run so
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: that we can put offenses into known past situations because
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: that's where the good stuff happens. That's where you can
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: get after the quarterback and you can create turnovers in
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: the secondary and those types of things. So that really
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: is kind of the first thing that we really talked
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: about this weekend.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I think that is good advice. Stop the run.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: It's probably what, of all the things you can nitpick
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: a barrel for, it's probably the run defense performance's bone
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: in games one and six is probably what cost him
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: his damn job.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Please stop the run. And I know that, first of all,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs just lost R.J. Harvey, so they're trying to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: figure out their run game there. In this particular matchup
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: coming up, I know that they're coming off a big
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: win over the Chiefs. But Bo Nix, Matt, confidence can
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: wane very easily and their confidence in Bo Nix can
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: also go very quickly in this game. You would want
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the ball in the hands of Bo Nix and make
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: him beat you rather than the run, because I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: know if there's full trust in him. I would I
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: stop the run. Let Bo Nix try to beat you
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: right now. I would put my hands in that situation.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, especially in quarters one through three.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Make first three quarters Bo Nix actually complete a pass
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: for longer than six yards.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Fourth quarter's been another deal for him, obviously. We'll go
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: into it more as the week goes along.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: His batted ball number, Mac, in deflections is astronomical in
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: this league right now.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He's got what?
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Did we say the other day he's got 38 passes
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: either batted or deflections?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: This year.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy. Batted is at the line of scrimmage.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Deflections is down past the line, but he, he is,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: he is not putting the ball where it needs to be.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: He has historically had a, despite being six, two, he
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: has historically had a ton of balls batted at the
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. I think it was 23 in his
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: rookie year, most in the league. He's up there with
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: the league leaders right now. So I know that Bryce
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: has had more than usual this year, knocked down Bo Nix,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: according to PFF at least, has still had more than
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Bryce has this season. As far as Todd Walsh goes,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I heard Mike Kay say something yesterday while interviewing one
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: of the defensive guys in the locker room. I heard
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: him mention that apparently Todd Walsh gave a very fiery
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: speech to the defense at his first speech in front
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: of the defense as defensive coordinator. I don't know, Bone,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: if that helps us moving forward, but I like hearing that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Get in there. Get in there. Get fired up.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Where it helps is Avero had a certain personality that
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: we didn't see it where he would do the fiery
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: speeches like that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: So.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: It's a change-up, and we'll see if this lights a fire.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Doesn't hurt, right, to see if this lights a fire
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: or not? Well, I thought it was notable. People, fans like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: we like fiery speeches. Finney gives us one every once
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: in a while.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha. What's Fiddy's fiery speech? Usually he says, hey,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: do some radio. Usually it involves, let's do radio.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: He'll insert the day of the week. Let's Tuesday. Let's Wednesday.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Although today's a Wednesday. What am I talking about?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: He'll insert day of week. It's a very well thought
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: out speech. Let's blank day and we'll do radio. That's
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: our motivational speaker right there. Fiddy Aloysius Marlowe, ladies and gentlemen.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Quad Dwarf Shortfellow.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Let's get to Bryce Young yesterday. Cause we got this
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Florio news report, which is very juicy, very juicy. So
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: we got to get to that next, but let's, let's
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: let you hear a little bit from Bryce Young and
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: nothing better to play for you than his answer. When
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: he was asked about this knee injury, Canales said yesterday,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Bryce is moving around good, but we just all feel
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: like that knee has to be a factor in what
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: looks like decreased mobility recently under pressure and And Bryce, yesterday,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: of course, downplayed the knee injury talk.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm capable to do everything for
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: the team. It's football. I don't think you can ask
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: anyone across the league who's been playing if they're not
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: having something. Again, that's part of the game. But yeah,
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: I feel good. I'm blessed to be able to go
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: out there. So it's just all about execution.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: He will never, Mac, tell you what bothers him because
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: he doesn't want it to be an excuse. I like
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to call him the anti-Ben Roethlisberger. Ben Roethlisberger, Mac, for
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: his decade plus. How many weeks did he say, well,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: last week against Baltimore, my arm fell off and we
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: had to sew it back on there, but I'm hoping
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: to play. I mean, he would tell you, I mean,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: just like he was in a mass unit. My knee
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: twisted around and it hurt. They thought they were going
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: to amputate my leg, and I'm going to be out
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: there this weekend, Cincinnati. You're not getting that from Bryce Young.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: To the point where Bill Cowher came out once and
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: said he, that didn't happen. He made that up.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: But anyway, yeah, Bryce is going to downplay it. You
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: don't want the opponents to know if the knee's a
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: problem because the opponents can go out there and try
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to put a helmet on a knee and that sort
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: of thing. But you brought it up too. He doesn't want...
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: to come across as making excuses. That's a part of
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: it as well.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Bill Cowher, he will come up in the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: next segment for Football Headlines with the NC State coaching
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: search and where it landed yesterday.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: NC State coaching search just got real funny, y'all. Just
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: got real damn funny, man. But anyway, the jokes just
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: write themselves. Hey, the options are unlimited. I see what
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: you did there. All right, so what is this? Mike Florio.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: What is this Mike Florio tidbit you got there, Boney?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Well, Mike Florio from NBC Sports and Profootballtalk.com has an
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: article up this morning about the future contracts of Bryce
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Young and C.J.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Stroud.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: It starts with an update on where things, I guess
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: ESPN.com yesterday said something about Stroud's contract. So he's piggybacking
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: off that for more intel. He says in here, I'll
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: read it, quote, As to Young, we've recently caught wind
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: of chatter that the Panthers are, quote, far down the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: road towards signing him to a second deal in excess
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: of $ 50 million per year. Both, he and Stroud, are
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: under contract through 2027 with their fifth-year options exercise. For both,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the guaranteed salary in 2027 will be $ 25. 9 million. The
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: franchise tag becomes an option for 2028 absent new deals. Again,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: both Young and Stroud eligible for new contracts. Both teams
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: want to keep them around. The only questions are now
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: how the payments will be structured, especially as to guarantees.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: There you go. Down the road. Want to make sure
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I got it all in there. Down the road. Far
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: down the road.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Far down the road. Contract talks for a deal that
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: would pay Bryce over $ 50 million a year.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: And the thing at the end, it basically says, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the only question is just how it's structured. That's way
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: far down. That's in the Brant Tillis making the money work.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: And why do I feel like, Bone, the conversation, which,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: by the way, is now this is our 7 o'clock segment.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Our 7 o'clock segment has just been changed.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: To this.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: And I think, I think the interesting thing is how
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: different will the conversation be because this news got out
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: now as compared to two weeks ago.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: No, it's very true.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Two weeks ago, you would have had four people probably
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: argue with it and we can name them off right now.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Now I wonder how fans are going to react to
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: that news after the way that Bryce has played in
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: very large part because of the offensive line struggles. But
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I do wonder how that conversation is going to go now.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I wonder what kind of chess match is being played
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: right now, Matt, between the agents for Stroud and Young.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Who's going to sign first? That whole deal, is someone
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: going to sign, and then the next guy's going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: pass them by? You wonder how that whole thing is
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: working out right now, the timing of it all, the
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: report there by Mike Florio. It's going to be interesting
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: to see how it plays out of– the young and Stroud, how,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: how they, when they sign and all that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: See, the thing is, don't, you probably want to be this.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: The agents want to be the second one, right? They
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: want the other guy, the other guy to set it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: And they'll just say, you got to beat it. You know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: kind of like kind of like how Cardinal Environmental Services
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: will beat any estimate you can get for HVAC repair.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: That's just to work in a sponsor. It just got
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: a kid flow of the show.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: You are you are drinking a soda away from being
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a NASCAR driver. Take a sip of your beverage over there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: So that's the thing. Who's going to blink first? Who's
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: going to do it first? I also wonder, Bo, is
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: the price dropping? You know what I mean?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: You can't ignore that Bryce Young has had a couple
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: of rough weeks in a row.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Because a couple weeks ago, Mac, we said, oh, there's
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: no way Bryce is going to sign right now the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: way he's playing. The agent will say, no way. You're
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: playing at an MVP level. You're on pace for 5,000 yards.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: A couple weeks later, my agent's saying, we might want
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to get this now before we go.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Too far the other way.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Because it's not just the way he played in the
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: last two games. It's the fact that his camp could
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: be looking at that offensive line and saying— Yeah, exactly.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: How's Grace going to play the rest of the way
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: with that?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: So we can't get our guy hurt right now, either.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Something happens to him. We're in big trouble here.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: That's another thing, too, is like if you get hurt,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: then what happens to the contract talks? And oh, by
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: the way, the more you get, I don't want him
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: to get hurt at all. But the more you get hit,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the more you worry about that. So we're going to
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: get into that conversation coming up at 7 o'clock. That
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: is a fascinating conversation, and that will bump out, Bone,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: folks starting to wonder if Canales' job is coaching for
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: his job the rest of the way. That conversation can
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: be shelved. I don't like that conversation anyway, man.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that conversation may come back up again here. Well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that's true.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: If things keep looking like this, you know it's coming up.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we've got football headlines.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: We just mentioned the NC State coaching search getting a
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: little wacky. Speaking of wacky, Dabo and Jerry Jones with
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: comments that go viral for all the wrong reasons. We
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: call that Wednesday on the Mac and Mojo Sports Radio
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Mack and Bone, Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. We got things happening.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: What a dang time of year to sports it. And Bone,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: we're going to talk more about this Bryce stuff. And
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Mike Florio reporting negotiations are well along towards a deal
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: over $ 50 million. We'll get into that. We'll expand on
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: that conversation. We'll get some of y'all's feedback about it
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: because I know you will have some coming up at
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: 7 o'clock. Right now, though, the Bone Man also, T,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of teasing by the Bone Man today, baby,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: told us that there is a— The Bone Man do
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: what the Bone Man do. As long as you please it, baby.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: What our old boss Terry Fox say? Well, if you're
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: going to tease it, you've got to please him.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't tease if you're not going to please.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: All right? So anyway. Don't clip that, please.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Here is the pleasing, the follow-up. NC State, according to
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: multiple sources, has interviewed former quarterback Russell Wilson for their
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: head coaching job. And we know their number one candidate
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: is Phillip Rivers.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Mike Glennon. We'll interview later on today. No, I made
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: that part up.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Founder Pagnott is reporting Ryan Finley is also in the mix.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Marcus Stone, go get a look. Jay Davis, go.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Get a look.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Can't beat that. Jamie Barnett, wasn't he in the late 90s?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Here you go. We're going deep on this one.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, the jokes just write themselves. This is just
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: so odd. Like, Philip Rivers makes sense to me. The
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Russell Wilson thing. It's so weird. Bone texted me last
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: night and said, is State aware that they don't have
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: to hire a former quarterback? They could hire an actual
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: college football coach.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I know that you want to get ahead of the
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: process now, but you don't have to hire someone that's
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: in your contact list immediately. You could go through a
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: little bit of time here. and see if, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: your version of James Franklin pops free or whatever, eventually
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: make that higher. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't understand
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the Russell Wilson part. The connection to Bill Cowher is
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Bill Cowher is part of the search. That's Russell Corey Smith.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Great friend pointing this out of a pack power. Um,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Bill Cowher's running the search. Russell Wilson sits next to
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: him on the NFL Today set. So how did that
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: conversation go? Was Bill distracted like reading his newspaper and
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Russ said, hey, Mr. Cowher, I would really like to
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: coach NC State. And Cowher said, what? He goes, you know,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I went there and then I went to Wisconsin, a
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: whole pack of badgers.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Can I interview?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And Cowher's like, go ahead. Or was Cowher like, oh,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: this damn search. Hey, Russ, how'd you go coach the team?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how this played out.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe Cowher thought, hey, they really like Phillip Rivers, who
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: was their second best quarterback all time. Oh, he's sitting
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: right there. Hey, maybe they like you as head coach.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: David Hale had a... Bill Cowher back is.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Just searching who played at NC State when he was
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: in the league.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: David Hale had a great tweet. as well as the
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: jokes kept coming uh david hale of espn said the
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: word is he's not gonna russ won't get the job
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: though because he wants to also coach baseball while he's
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: there so they're gonna tell him to go along and
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: they're going to interview mike lennon so anyway that was
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: that was good stuff wouldn't it be funny.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Mac if russ wants the job until wisconsin calls and
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: he's like you know what guys i gotta i went
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: there too man you know i'm a whole pack of
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: badgers tfb russell wilson doesn't philip rivers mac is coaching
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: in high.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: School he comes across as.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: He hasn't done it before but you could see where
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: it may succeed i don't Russ, to me, I don't
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: really get the coaching vibe out of him.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I do not either. TFB says State would be dangerous.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: So there you go. People want to know, will C.J.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Bailey be interviewed as a player coach for next season
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: as well? So, NIO money plus coaching salary? Anyway, all right,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: let's get to Dabo and old Jared Jones because they
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: made comments yesterday, Bone, that made headlines. And we love
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: when these two guys make comments that make headlines because
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: they're very interesting when they give you headline-making comments.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: God bless Jerry's weekly radio appearance that he does because
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: it carries us on Wednesdays.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Imagine what it does to the Dallas market.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: So anyway, let's start with Dabo Sweeney, who we've talked about, Bone,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: over the last couple of years as he's come under fire. for,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: you know, the standard, not the standard dropping, but the
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: results dropping, albeit from the high lofty results he was getting.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: But we've talked about the way he wants to keep
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: putting his resume out there verbally to everybody.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Remember we did this, we did that, we did this.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: He did something yesterday, Bone, that is the saddest one
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: yet when he tried to brag on what this program
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: could accomplish this week. Listen to this from Dabo Sweeney.
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: We're going for our sixth win in this game. We're
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: trying to get a sixth win. Nobody sets out to
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: have six wins. You say that's a pretty low bar.
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: It is in totality, but We talk about consistency. If
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: we can get a sixth win, that would be 27
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: years in a row for Clemson. I think the last
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: time they didn't have a sixth win was in 1998.
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: I think Clemson went 3-8 or something. All the way
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: back to 1999. Since I've been a head coach 18
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: years in a row, to have a chance to achieve
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: that and when you think about the consistency of that six,
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: six wins, just six wins, pretty low bar, Clemson, Georgia,
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: Ohio state and Oklahoma. That's it. We can find a
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: way to get a six win. We can just find
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: a way somewhere to get a six win. And you say, okay, man,
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: that's a, that's a low bar. It ought to be
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: a lot of people on that list. No Clemson, Georgia,
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: Ohio state and Oklahoma. If we're fortunate enough to get
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: another win somewhere in this season, um, And Clemson, Georgia,
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: and Ohio State have won national championships over that span.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: And so my point in that is something I always
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: talk about, consistency beats intensity.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Even he was trying not to laugh at one point.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: He was like, how far have we fallen down the
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: hill here near Howard's Rock?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Six wins is now something you've got to brag on, man.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Are you freaking kidding me?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: He realized about halfway through, he's like, you know, I
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: used to be coaching a dynasty around here.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: He did for the first time ever in his BS
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: and bone. I feel like he got a moment of
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: shame there where he did start chuckling.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: That was Dabo. That was Dabo Lasso. My gosh, seriously.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Six wins. You think Clemson fans want to hear that?
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? If we just get to six
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: wins now and keep that streak alive.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Dabo, do you think you should keep being able to
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: coach every year and go six to six?
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Dabo, do you know who has six wins? The thousand
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: bowl teams that make it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Not to mention, here's the weird thing about it. They
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: have four games left. they could get to nine wins.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean? Like why I can
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: see if you have one game left, it's been a
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: rough season. You're five and six and you want to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: shoot your shot with that one. Yes.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: But like, don't Clemson fans want you to win more
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: than just one of your last four games. I mean, um,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: so God, that was a doozy from old dabs, man.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: He just makes it too easy. I think, I think
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: he's a good man. You know, I find him like
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: amusing so often, but he just brings the joke.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Like he just, he tees it up for people to
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: just mock him.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: He's like a sitcom character. He's like Craig T. Nelson
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: on Coach, basically. I'm sure there's a Dauber and a
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Luther in there somewhere. He, Matt, they're rebooting Coach at
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: some point. They're talking about, they should just make it
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: about Dabo. That former coach that was at the highest level,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: now he's trying to get back to that level, but
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: just can't.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It'd be a great sitcom.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: No, he would be a great character to base a
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: show off of.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Seth from Concord said he was literally choking on his words.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get to Jerry Jones, though. Dabo, I
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: like Jerry Jones. I really don't have any... affection or
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: affinity for. But Jerry Jones also will say things, Bone,
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: that will lead to people all across the country shaking
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: their head. And yesterday he was on with the Shannon
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: RJ show down there in Dallas. Like you said, it's
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: the radio show where he does his weekly spot.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: And you'll hear the question being asked.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Jerry often criticized about not paying coaches here for years
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: now and for a Not really paying coaches a ton
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: of money. Listen to the question in Jerry's response.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: We had innumerable chances.
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: What do you say to the notion, the theory, the
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: thought that Jerry Jones is not going to pay the
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: most top, top, top dollar for a coach and that
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: Jerry has to have a guy that's kind of his
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: discovery so that Jerry Jones gets the credit?
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Let me address the first one. In the NFL, this
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: is after years of looking at all the teams and
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: all the coaches. There is zero correlation between how much
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: you pay a coach or how many coaches you have
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: as to winning. There is no correlation. And that's a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: random sample of years and all 32 teams involved. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: put that in your hopper and smoke it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And you're a hopper.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know why you're near my hopper. He's so
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: cocky about it, too. And then the internet got to working, Bone.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: The internet got to working. And they searched for the
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: highest-paid coaches. The Chiefs lured Andy Reid away. He's the
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: highest-paid coach. Well, actually, there's three tied for the highest-paid coach.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Three coaches that were all brought there with great resumes
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: that were paid a ton. And look at who they are.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Andy Reid in Kansas City. John Harbaugh, look at what
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: he's doing in his first year with the Giants. and
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton. We hate them, but they're 6-2 right now.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: And they're not even playing great, but they're 6-2.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Jerry, there is reasons, and you are a part of it,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: there is reasons why you have not been to the
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl now in 30 years. You've stopped paying your coaches.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: You had pretty good success there with Bill Parcells. The
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: last time you kind of went really all in on
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a coach, then you stopped after that because you had
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: a bad experience with Bill Parcells. There's a reason, Jerry,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: that your seasons are like Groundhog Day over and over
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: and over again because you're cheap and you keep trying
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: to get by with coaches that are either inexperienced or
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: just not very good.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I also love it. And I date in it.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: It's great, dude. And I love that he is so
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: sure he's right. And America is so sure he is wrong. Um,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: I also think bone, if you were to go out
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: and get a high paid coach, right? That high paid
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: coach ain't going to take crap from Jerry. That high
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: paid coach. One going to want to run his show.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: And I think that's why Jerry doesn't go after those
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: guys anymore. I think he wants to, because remember what
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: happened with Jimmy Johnson, right? Eventually, they wanted to fight
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: over credit and all that stuff. I think Jerry Jones
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: wants yes men.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: 100%.
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: And yes men cost less money, and yes men also...
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Don't win as much. And that's the sad thing for
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Cowboy fans, man.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Thank God, Fitty, you ain't Cowboy Fitty anymore, baby.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Damn straight. Cowboy Fitty left that sinking ship.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Remember a couple years ago, I think it was the
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: Roku channel did that behind the scenes of the draft rooms,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: like full on. They were in the Cowboys draft room
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: for like a whole show. The amount of him... I
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: understand he's the owner and he's got a lot of
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: input on the draft. But he goes all in. He
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: makes every decision. And no wonder that they struggle at times. Yes,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: they do get some talent sometimes. But he doesn't just
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: do what Tepper does and say, Dan, what do you
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: think about this? He is making all the decisions.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: So... No wonder this thing just completely blows up every year.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: And Boney's got help from Stephen.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Stephen helps him.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: He says, Stephen, you're the future owner of the Dallas Cowboys.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: You do what I say here, Stephen.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, Pops. Yes, Pops.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: 704 number said, I miss where the Panthers are having
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: some sort of great season.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair, but it doesn't mean we can't
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: laugh at others. Didn't blow a 24-3 lead at home
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. Didn't lose at home to the Buccaneers
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: on a short week. Want to keep going? We might
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: be a mess, but we're not the same mess the
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are. Get them, Fed Dog.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Although we did lose at home to the Buccaneers by 30.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: That's still not as bad. With their starting quarterback. They
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: lost at home on a short to a rookie quarterback.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: In fairness, Jalen Daniels could have did what Baker did here.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: In fairness, the Cowboys got Minshewed also.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, they did, man.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Fed. We're supposed to be clowning the Cowboys.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Not being honest. I'm sorry, Fed.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Mac, when we come back, we're going to talk about
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: the Mike Florio report from ProFootballTalk.com. If you missed it
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: this morning, he's reporting the Panthers and Bryce Young, quote,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: far down the road.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: On a new deal. We'll give the details and discuss.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.