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Faith in Real Life · Everything In Between: a Trinity UMC Podcast

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Life isn't black and white. It's not just mountaintop
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moments or rock bottom seasons. It's lived in the middle, in the
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doubts and the prayers that feel unanswered, in the joy you
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didn't see coming. Welcome to Everything in
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Between, a podcast from Trinity UMC.
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All right. So welcome to our podcast,
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Everything in between. My name is Christina Shaver.
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I am the pastor here at Trinity. Who else is with me?
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Today I am Josiah Drew. I am here for on another episode
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of Everything and in Between. That's how you say right?
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Everything and in between or. Everything.
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Everything in between. I just want I was testing
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everybody else's knowledge of. Our show and with that,
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greetings. I'm Melissa.
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I am the Next Generation minister here and we are excited
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to talk to you about some exciting things.
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Who else is here? Thanks Melissa for the setup.
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I appreciate that. You're an exciting thing.
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I'm just back here behind the computer.
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Nobody's paying attention to me. They're just all just in there.
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They're just doing what they want.
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I'm Ben. I can't see you on the camera.
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Please remember that I came looking for you last night.
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You did. She did come looking for me last
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night. Oh, that was the last night
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thing. It was I was she saw my car in
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the parking lot at weird hours and she was like, he's still in
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the building. I wonder if he's OK and not
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dead. And so here we are, worship arts
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pastor, also behind the computer, doing the stuff I do
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these things, I. Didn't hear that last episode.
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Oh, I had it. It was in there.
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Was it? There were cricket.
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Oh, there were crickets. Let's go.
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Come on. Can I just say I think we have
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excellent podcast voices. Oh, do you?
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Do yeah, like I think my voice gets a little deeper in the
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podcast. Oh, it's a little sultry, little
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sultry. Oh my God, now?
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I thought I sounded really nasally.
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I didn't know that I sounded like this, and I was.
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I think. You sound great.
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Thanks. I think the mic are, I think the
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mics are doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
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What are we talking about today? What is our topic, Melissa?
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Our our first topic is what role does hope play in your life
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right now? That's our first topic, yeah.
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Anyway, our question of what role does hope play in your life
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right now ties us back into our topic of faith in the middle of
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real life. Because granted, we all work in
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the church and we're here. I don't know.
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Collectively, if you put us all together seven days a week,
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someone's in the office. We're real people who have real
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lives, who still live in hope and in God's grace.
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Yeah, we are definitely real people, non perfect.
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Not. Perfect, not perfect goobers who
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were just trying to figure it out.
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Just I just did an eyebrow raise, so maybe he's perfect.
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I don't know why Melissa's lenses are zoomed in on me, but
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I need her to stop. So I will say when it comes to
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our faith in real life, hope is a huge part of that.
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There's always hope. I, I tend to have a very
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optimistic view of life, like it is all going to work out.
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And the reason I have this, and this is something I want to talk
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more in depth about one day is that when my son with George was
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very sick and we got some bad news and it was just like 1 bad
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news piece after another, I was like screaming at God, like
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where is George's miracle? And God's voice came to me and
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it was God's voice. It was not my voice.
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God's. God was like Christina, George
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doesn't need a miracle. He needs time.
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And he has that. And I've watched my son heal and
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become this hilarious, fun, super energetic person and it
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there's not a day go by, goes by that I don't think at least 10
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times. Maybe you don't need a miracle.
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Maybe you need time and to watch things come together and to
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watch God move. I mean, I can look at that.
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I think about like coming to this church, how God really laid
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it out for me to come and how things have gone really well.
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And I was nervous because I thought, what if I don't do a
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good job? Or like what if the church just
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like keeps declining and then it hasn't like we it is?
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Just the opposite. Just the opposite.
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I feel like I have thrived here. I feel like we've all thrived.
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I feel like the Church has thrived and I, I think about
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that in relationships. I think if you just commit to
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working in relationships and in friendships, they keep going.
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And with children, you just, you have to give the time and the
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energy and there's just always hope and you have to be willing
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to work in that hope. And I think hope inspires me to
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keep showing up and to keep working.
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And and so that is something that I, I think about every
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single day now. I'll try and talk that, yeah.
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I think hope inspires hope inspires purpose.
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Just like just if you even think about just what it means to have
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hope, it means that you're not there yet.
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It means that that you're looking for a day to where it's
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not going to be. You're looking for a time that's
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going to be better than now. And so if you strive to, to
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reach that and hope means that you're eventually going to get
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out of what you're where, where you're in.
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So I think that's has a lot to do with our faith that but also
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being able to, I think we talked about this a little bit in the
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in the last one, but being able to be where you're at and learn
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lessons and where you're at and not rush to get to the end
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because even though you're hopeful for the next stage,
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you're not rushing to get to that to.
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That spot? Yeah, Matt Hall talked about
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when I was starting, when I was interning for him and starting
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out in youth ministry, it was trust the process.
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And I think that plays a lot into hope because right now when
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we get 6th graders or kids that are brand new to faith, you look
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at them and you're just like, oh gosh, I hope this works out.
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I hope they know Jesus. I hope they don't break
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something. Oh my gosh.
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Confirmation. And so, and then you watch them
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grow and develop like confirmation, they stood up and
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they read their creed and they were so proud of that.
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And I think you, you look at it and you just hope that like my
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hope is God's going to work this out.
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God's going to play the role. I'm just an instrument in this,
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but in my everyday life, hope plays a role in the fact that
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Jane just graduated VPK yesterday and she's going to
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kindergarten. I know I have cried so much, but
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she goes to kindergarten next year and she won't even let me
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call her a kindergartner yet. She just wants to be a graduate.
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She's not ready to be called that.
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But my prayer life is a lot of hope and asking God just to
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prepare this path for her so that when she starts school,
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which I know she'll do well, but when she starts school, she
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finds the friends, she finds the community, kind of like she's
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had here Because and here she's been in this God bubble of
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Christian preschool. And my hope now is that she'll
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find some sort of like God bubble at elementary.
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Christina, the I've heard you say in your sermons and now in
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the podcast several times that like you heard God say that it
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was that he doesn't need to be healed, that he just needed time
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to. Be a miracle.
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Doesn't need a miracle, but needs time like during that, I
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know I believe that God works in throughout everything.
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And so in that time where you were in the waiting, is there
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any like particular stories of like things that you saw, like
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divine conversations, things that happened either up in
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Boston or where you were at? And like, was it easier during
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that time to trust God in the struggle or do you find it after
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the struggle? It's easier to trust him after
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knowing it. Or can you I?
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Did not find it easy to trust God in the middle of that
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because I was so devastated that my son was born with half of his
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heart not there. And what I couldn't envision
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what George's life would look like.
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There were some really good divine moments like so George,
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part of the issue was he had, he kept getting fluid in his lungs
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and they were giving him this like terrible formula.
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So he stopped wanting to eat. And then they decided that he
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just needed fluids for a little bit.
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And because the formula tasted bad and he just was so sick,
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George basically forgot how to eat.
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And I was like, really. And they were starting to want
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to put AG tube in so they could feed him through his stomach.
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And I really hated that because I mean, God had the by this
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time, God has said he just needs time.
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He doesn't need a miracle. And I really thought, I want for
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my son to have this normal life. I want him to eat through his
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mouth and I need a sign that tells me that I can keep trying
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to figure out how to feed him and help him remember how to use
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the like sucking reflex and and so.
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Or do I need to get a doing? Does he need to have AG tube?
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Well, for the first time in like weeks, that day he took a
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pacifier and like was sucking on it.
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And I took that as like, he remembers how to do this.
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We just have to make him unafraid to eat because like if
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you, if you've been, you're being fed 5 or 6 times a day and
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then after every one of those times you threw up, you
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basically wouldn't want to eat anymore.
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And so I was like, we just have to teach him that food is his
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friend and that we can't, we, he doesn't have to be afraid of it.
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And so we went down this whole like feeding journey path.
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I pulled out of ministry for a few months to really focus on
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that. And that was a big sign to me of
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just trusting the process. Keep going, keep showing up,
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keep doing the work that you're supposed to be doing to heal
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your child. So that was like a like a really
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big moment for me. And then just the people that
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showed up, I mean, y'all, we spent a month in Birmingham, two
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months in Boston during 2019, the month in Boston, we were in
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hotels the whole time and churches paid our hotel rooms.
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We didn't pay for like any part of the hotel really.
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What your nice driver during the snowstorm?
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And yeah, like, I had, we were there in December for a
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snowstorm. It was a Blizzard.
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And I didn't know how I could walk from the hotel to the
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hospital. And I had this like, amazing
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Uber driver. I finally found.
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It was like an Uber Black. Like it was this in this
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Escalade pulls up and like rolls me to the hospital.
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And that guy was so kind. And he gave me his personal
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number so I could call him if I needed to, to get to and from
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the hospital. And it was really, really just
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wonderful. Like, like, I really feel like
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God recovered us in ways that I wasn't always fully ready to see
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then. But like looking back, I see and
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now I have that. I feel like I have that faith
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and trust so much more. And I'm willing to, I'm a little
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bit more willing to be less freaked out when things are hard
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because I'm like, God's gotten us through this.
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We're going to get through everything.
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And it's helped me with church members who who might be facing
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a health crisis of going, Hey, we don't really know what's
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going to happen yet. Like keep, like don't, don't
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feel like God is abandoning. You know that God is with you
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and that there are things that are going to work out that you
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didn't think we're going to work out.
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So it's been, it's been really wonderful, really wonderful.
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How about y'all? Do y'all have anything as far as
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like hope in in trying times or in ordinary times?
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When is it easier to trust God for y'all?
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I mean, I think it's always easier.
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Oh, actually, I got to say, I say it's always easier to trust
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him in the trying times. But it's always to me, I'm not
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usually not in my mind to lean on him in the non trying times.
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You know, a lot of Times Now I'm leaning on myself.
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But as far as trusting him in the struggling times is always,
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That's why I feel like my trust matters the most.
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I think a make or break point, because there's all, we all have
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pivotal points in our faith, but I think a make or break point in
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who I would be as an adult was when my dad had his heart attack
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my senior year. We were at Meltdown in Panama
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City and we got home that evening.
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I think we had a Super Bowl party here, which is an insane
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idea, but we had a Super Bowl party here.
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And when Jared and I got home, my uncle, who was an alcoholic,
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was talking about my dad had had a heart attack and all of these
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things. And so, you know, we rushed to
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the hospital where my family or where my parents were.
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And that next week of my life, because my dad had an open heart
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surgery, quadruple bypass, all sorts of things, traumatic
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experiences happened. But the way again, like
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Christine said, the church showed up like Matt and Shannon
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Hall would just come sit with me all day long in the cafeteria
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because I wasn't willing to leave the hospital.
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I wanted to be in the building if I needed to be there.
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And just the way that the church loved and cared for my family
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and in that moment and the way that they love and cared for me
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in 2019 when Annie Ferguson passed, those moments really
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developed my faith and the way that you see people live out
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their lives, that they're not just showing up, you know, not
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just on Sundays, but they're showing up throughout the week.
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Because back then, I didn't make enough to pay for Annie's
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funeral. And she, you know, everything
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was kind of in probate. And so I paid as much as I
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could, and my mom helped, and then church members called the
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Funeral Home and paid for it, which was wild.
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So that left a huge impact on my life and the way that I see how
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the church functions, not just in services but as a community
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of believers. I think Mackenzie just sent me a
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really interesting question. It's it's convicted me a little
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bit, but like, have we accidentally made Christianity
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feel like an event instead of a lifestyle?
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And I was like, have I done that?
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Have we done that? I don't think so.
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I think that it can fall into that because of the way that we
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our schedules are so detailed and they our schedules, I mean I
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think I speak for all of us. We revolve them around the life
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of the church. And so it feels sometimes like
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it's an event, but I think that our faith is spoken out in like
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the in between moments, like when you're, you know, talking
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to the family before the service, this when you did the
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baptism for the baby recently. You know, I think that the way
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you live and carry yourself depicts a lifestyle of faith.
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But I do think sometimes, like I, I've been really
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contemplating my lifestyle and I'm like, when did I settle into
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this? Like, is this who I am or is
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this who I've trained myself to portray myself?
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And that's difficult. And I think what's hard is we,
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we are really good at scheduling, like really great
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events, right? We are like, like, I think the
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baptism night is so beautiful. And it's a, it's a public
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showing of a private commitment. We do Easter really well.
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We do things like the challenge. And like for me, it was meltdown
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when I was, you know, in student ministry or youth as we called
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it back in the day. But if those are the only times
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that you are thinking about God, then yes, you have made
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Christianity an event and not a lifestyle.
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And that is really something that every one of us has to
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think about of are we only showing up for these big events
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when Christianity is a day in, day out commitment that we make
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to God? And I think as parents, it's
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interesting to try to instill this lifestyle or way of life
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into our children. Like, I don't know how it is for
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you, but when Jane was little, it was really easy for us to say
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nighttime prayers. But now, like, I'm like, OK, do
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you want to pray about it? And she goes, no.
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And I'm like, can I pray for you?
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And then she'll hide under the blanket.
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So I'm just like, putting my hand on her blanket with her and
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praying. And she's like, OK, Amen.
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And I'm like, OK. That that's definitely George
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George is like we have to pray before the meal yes, stop
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eating, but James is very much he likes to talk about it.
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He likes to pray, he likes to serve I mean, George likes to
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acolyte like they like to do those things unless, you know,
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maybe there's some people there that James is trying to impress
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or George is trying to impress. You know, they are, you know,
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kids, but they it is definitely about instilling it in them.
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Even if they don't understand it for right now, that's OK.
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But they still need to like have those things that we do that
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make faith a part of everyday life.
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That's reading scripture, it's prayer, it's going to worship.
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Even if your kids don't understand it, these are
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important things to do with them so they can understand them as
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they get older. And how do you take it from just
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something you do to like how you live, you know, like praying
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before a meal. It's just like something you're
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supposed to do, but like, why are you supposed to do it?
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And so it's just. To talk about giving thanks, I
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think one of the best ways you can bring Christianity into
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everyday life is to actually be someone who apologizes for when
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you do something wrong and saying I was wrong.
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This is why. Please forgive me and being able
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to talk about forgiveness because so many of us never want
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to admit when we may have messed up.
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It shocks kids when I apologize like, Kaden Tompkins needed to
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pick up paperwork and I was like, I'm not going to be there.
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I know I said I was going to be there for you to pick it up.
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I'm really sorry that I'm unable to do this.
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And he was like, it's OK. I was like, OK, OK.
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I would say to what that is, I feel like a lot of people
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sometimes we don't make it Christianity like an event.
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Well, but what I think about is a lot of times we make it like a
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destination, like because we know we're like, hey, we're
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called to live like Jesus, but we know we're not like him there
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yet. But eventually, maybe one day,
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we're continuing to strive towards that sanctification
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goal, that one day we will be. Or if so, there's that aspect of
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it to where I was like, OK, I'm trying to be more like Jesus
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everyday and then I'm just waiting and being hopeful for
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that point when I'm finally there.
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And then there's the where does following?
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Because we're following Jesus, but where does following Jesus
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get me? Like where, where are we going?
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So I was like, so a lot of times I feel we in life might try to
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rush to get to that point of far as where we're going rather than
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realizing there's joy, freedom and excitement in the path that
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we're taking. And then there's that part of it
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making it your lifestyle to where?
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I have a scripture. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah. So, and I guess the way I can
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say that in like application, where it goes being out to be
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applied to our lives now is like a lot of people think there's
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there's something that they are like, Oh, yeah, I need to change
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this in my life. Sometimes they think of it in
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their head, like, I know if I'm ever really going to make it
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into heaven, I need to change this a part of my life before
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the incomes, but not really seeing that goal of, oh, if you
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give this part of your life up to God, you know, there's there
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could be joy and a little slice of heaven in you right now.
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But also often do we hold on to those things Me like, Oh no,
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what he has for me is not better for me now.
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It's always going to be better for me later.
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I was like, no, sometimes that stuff is better for.
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You right now with the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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The idea is that God is with us and that literally we are never
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apart from God. Yeah.
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And so like we're not waiting till we die like God is with us.
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Now in First Thessalonians 5-6 through 18, it says rejoice
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always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances
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for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
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That's what we need to be doing. I, I, I think that's so
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important to rejoice always, to rejoice that the presence of God
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is with us. Pray without ceasing.
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I feel like that's always our connection to the Holy Spirit
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and to give thanks in all circumstances.
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I feel like faith in everyday life is when you feel nudge to
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check on someone, to check on someone to when your first
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emotion is anger or like being very self-centered about
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something to maybe like take a beat like the Holy Spirit just
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as it opens your mouth, it also can close your mouth, you know,
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and like allow that to take root in our lives.
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And I also think when we have an attitude of gratefulness, it
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really, I think it shows Jesus present in US instead of a woe
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is me, everyone's against me. News flash, not everyone is out
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to get you. You know, like sometimes I think
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that everyone's out to get me. Who who's out to get me?
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No one, you know, like I, I think that's just a really
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important mindset to have. Rejoice always, pray without
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seizing, Give thanks in all circumstances, for this is the
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will of God and Christ Jesus in you.
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And those things sound nice until life is hard and you're
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like, I still need to be doing these things like Christianity
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isn't rainbows and butterflies and happiness like you have to
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still find joy in in trials and you still need to be in contact
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with God when things are hard, maybe even more I.
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Feel like too sometimes people need reminded this because, she
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said. Some people ought to get me.
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Some people need to realize no one's out to get you.
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The devil's not. I mean, the devil's always
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trying to. He's always in your corner
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trying to. Get devil is trying to devour.
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Trying to devour you but sometimes people need to realize
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you just make bad decisions. Oh yeah.
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It's not sometimes like, Oh no, the Lord's Testament, you're not
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Joe. You just make a bad decision.
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That's that's all that's happening right here.
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You. You made a mistake.
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You you sowed weeds and now you have to pluck them.
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That's all. So God doesn't only meet us in
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sanctuaries or worship space, God meets us in all over the
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place, carpool, doing the dishes, classrooms when we're in
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the waiting room. So where is the least spiritual
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place you've ever suddenly had a spiritual realization like an
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encounter with God? On the toilet.
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But for real, you're not going to say it.
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I knew you were going to say it. But Matt and I used to talk
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about how like, our best ideas and our deepest prayers would
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happen in the shower. And maybe it's because and you
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you all might relate like we have kids and that's the only
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maybe alone time you get or the car drive.
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Like when I'm driving in the car and like the song comes on and
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I'm like, Oh, no, I'm going to cry.
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Like those are the moments that it just, you know, the everyday
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life where it hits. But I don't know about like the.
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Least every every place that's been pronounced right now has
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been a very spiritual place for me, whether it be in the car or
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in the toilet. I do have AI do have a story and
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this is very me being very vulnerable that there was a time
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that in my 20s, early 20s and I I was in a strip club and in the
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middle of a being in the strip club.
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I had that moment where God was like, this is not where you want
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to be and like thank. God and you left right.
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No, I didn't. The thing is, is you have to
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understand, I don't understand strip clubs.
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I really don't like. I don't know why people go to
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there and I'm sure it's everyone has their thing, but.
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I can explain it to you. That's also two guys in the
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room. But no, it was a seriously, I
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don't know how we ended up getting there, but it was, it
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was, it was very late in the morning.
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And I just remember, like even in that time of partying that I
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was sitting there and I'm just, I just had that feeling of like
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God was just like, yeah, this is not the place where I'm at.
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And I'm like, yeah, I feel that. And he's like, you you see what
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this feels like? This is not, this is not good.
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And so I always remembered that. And it wasn't like it was a
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conviction for me not to go there, which I don't condone
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going to places like that at all.
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But that was probably the the least like spiritual time where
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I felt like I was actually in church and I was going like,
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yeah, you're right. This is not that.
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And it wasn't a, it wasn't a condemning thing at all.
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It was just, it was, it was almost like how Jesus would I
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would I would, I would imagine him going to talk to the
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prostitutes, talking to the tax collectors.
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Like it just like I was there and he was there with me.
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And he was like, yeah, you see this, this is not my plan for
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your life. And I'm like, yeah, you're
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right. This is, this is all just a
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fleeting thing. And but yeah, that's that should
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be being vulnerable. Yeah.
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I mean, that brings me, I'm sorry, no, go ahead.
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That brings me to just a thought I had with a lot of people, a
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lot of our mindsets, a lot of times we're we, I, I think, you
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know, I might be wrong in this, but a lot of times we have this
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this mindset of the Lord dwells in the places that we make
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sacred. So and that's why that confused
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that question always confused me a little bit.
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It's like, oh, the, the the least spiritual place because we
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feel like, oh, you know, like people always say, Hey, you're
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in the church, you're you're in the House of God.
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God's eyes are on you or you're here.
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You know, this is a sacred place.
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You know, you're for holy ground.
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And you know, I just have this always been and having that
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belief that, you know, the Lord is dwelling.
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I mean, the word, the word dwells within us at all times
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and that at any moment in time, there's no that you're never too
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far from him to have to say something to you.
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And just like Ben said, it's often not in the times where
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we're in a place of worship to where sometimes that we hear him
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being really audible, but in the times where he really needs us
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to be yelling at he need, we need him to be yelling at us.
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So using times where we're running away, It's not that
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we're in the least spiritual places that are in our mindset.
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We might be in a we're not in a good spiritual mindset, but he's
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never too far to be like, I'm still here.
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Hello. You've never you've never really
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gone far. Even if you've gone to the mouth
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of a fish is I'm still here, you know, you never you can't escape
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my hand. So.
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I think in my early 20s, like I was working at Skater Rink,
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working at a restaurant and the restaurant was above a nightclub
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and my friends would meet me after work and we'd go to the
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nightclub. And then when that one closed,
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we went to Night Town, which is now a church, but we would go to
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Night Town. And I spent many weekends with
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these people. And the further I got into my
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job and they got, we got into our careers.
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We kind of have separated. But one of the one of my
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girlfriends that I went out with every weekend and worked with at
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the skating rink, she called me up and we hadn't seen each other
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in a while and she asked to have lunch.
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And I was like, yeah, absolutely.
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So we met at Olive Garden. And so those least spiritual
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places led to a moment at Olive Garden where she was like, she
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was like, I'm pregnant and I want you and John to be the
29:28
godparents of my child. And I was like, but I'm like 3
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or 4th in rank when it comes to our friends.
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What about so and so and so and so?
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And she was like, no, she was like, if I die, I want to know
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that my child will be raised in faith, which makes me emotional.
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But it was one of those moments where it was like, oh, I was
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being used in these least spiritual places because I was,
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I still brought my faith. Like this friend would drive us
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home from the club. I would take a nap at her house,
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and then I'd be in church Sunday morning.
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And she thought I was insane. But seven years later, she's
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like, I want this dedication in my child's life if I can't do
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it. And I thought that was huge.
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And how God uses these moments to like been said to bring us
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how he works all things together, how he brings that
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I'll. Tell you what, there's nothing
30:20
like talking about Jesus over a bottle of wine.
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There's something about them. Conversation.
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I can't really argue. But then then drives home from,
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from from the nightclub and, and you're trying to get home safe.
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You're, you're talking to Jesus the whole time, I'm telling you.
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Well, it would be like we'd be in Whataburger and I'd be
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talking about my faith and people didn't really want to
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hear it. Please don't drink and drive,
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everyone. Please don't drink and.
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Drive. That's not what I'm saying at.
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All OK, just backseat you're in the.
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Backseat in my story, and that's where I was.
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But yeah, like sharing my faith in Whataburger at 4:00 AM with
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people planted seeds that my God said in Bronx, you know, if if
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God forbid ever anything ever happened to his mother, like she
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trusts me to keep him, you know, growing up in faith.
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So maybe following Jesus isn't about escaping ordinary life.
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Maybe it's about discovering God already present in it, right?
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It is. I mean, that's just, that's just
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part of it. God is present, just like in
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Ruth, God was present in all of her actions.
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And with Esther, it's interesting, you know, the word
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God is never mentioned in the book of Esther at all.
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Like they never, you never hear that word in the book.
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But you know that God is moving. And I think that's really
31:40
important, that sometimes we are so like the Holy Spirit, we're
31:44
so entrenched with God that our actions are all from God if we
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trust God with with our lives enough.
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Yeah. Like huge miracles don't happen
31:55
in those books, but life happens and God used life for his glory.
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I mean, I think, you know, feeding the 5000 like this
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little boy brought his his fish and his loaves and it fed 5000
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people. You have to be willing to offer
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what you have, and God does a whole lot with what you offer.
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Absolutely. Makes loves.
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Makes loves, makes fish. All right, do we have our
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closing question? I asked it as an opener, so
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let's just let's draw a random one.
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Uh oh. Wild.
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That's wild. We have to keep our answers a
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little quick. Quick.
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We're going to do a level 10. This is nice.
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What's 1? What's one thing you hope people
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feel when they're with you Let's can we do one word?
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Can we do that to our closing I would say I hope they feel
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loved. I know I took the easy one.
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I. Know that's why she's like, I'm
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going first first. Wow.
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I could do another one, but then I'll steal again.
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No, I mean I hope I they feel appreciated.
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Go ahead, Josiah. No, I want you to 1st.
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I'm I'm going to ask ChatGPT what it thinks.
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Stop. Do not do that.
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Do not use that thing that is literally killing our planet to
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find. A word.
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Well, ChatGPT is so last month. There's new things out now.
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Joy. I'm going to go with joy.
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I want them to feel joy. Joy.
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People do feel joy around you. Yeah, they do.
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It's not, it's not me. It's still not working within
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me. I would say at ease.
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I hope that I bring people peace when I'm around them.
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And should work harder. Some people told me.
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Kidding. Gosh, we're supposed to keep
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this short. We're closing.
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I'm so at peace every time I'm around you.
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I am too. I always, I always do feel at
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peace around Ben and Joy and loved and.
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Appreciate. It and on that note.
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We hope you guys have a great week and we're so thankful for
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each and everyone of you and we. Don't know, Josiah, I'll be
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back. We will see you in everything in
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between. Bye.