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90 Minutes with the King · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast with my partner.
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Brian siglo, I am Curtis Wilson. And tonight, folks, we have a
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very special guest joining up to talk some hokey football and
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other things in between. We were looking a few weeks ago
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and we're like we need somebody who's a Virginia Tech football
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fan. We need somebody who's an alumni
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of the school. We need somebody who donates his
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hard-earned money. We need somebody who sponsors
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Athletics and we need somebody who lives and works in
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Blacksburg. And there's only one in Bryan.
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I'll let you introduce him King. Jeremy counts of Blacksburg
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ladies and gentlemen. Jeremy how the hell are you man?
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Hey, hey, The conference, we had the
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signing day press conference, and now we're sitting here,
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we're officially fully into transfer portal season, so we've
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kind of lived an entire like offseason in about 3 days here.
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So I think everybody's stress levels a little high right now.
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Oh yeah about that and buying a house this week.
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So that's fucking great. We've got all of this bullshit
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going down and it's a roller coaster.
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It is a shit roller coaster and it has went off the fucking
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rails. It is like whenever that person
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got launched from a fucking slingshot, in Pigeon Forge onto
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the highway, that's what I feel like right now because it is all
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over the goddamn Place. Lazy Hillman Hokie nation is now
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the person they got launched in The Pigeon Forge Highway, we are
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scattered on the concrete. We are getting run over by
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rednecks. Coming from everywhere to have a
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great time. In Pigeon.
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Forge, I love you. Billy Mecca.
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It's my me to known coasters are the best.
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Yeah, dude, I'm going to Gatlinburg fucking hillbilly.
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Nigga, like me and Emily. I'm are there.
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Oh, yes. Yeah.
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Technically Marnie, who is my best friend.
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Always, Said he could marry me. He wasn't able to marry us
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because of Virginia walls are weird because he lived in
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Kentucky right now. Like that's where he lives.
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So he couldn't technically Marius in Virginia because our
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laws are dumb. And so me and Emily went, we got
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we got redneck hitch in Gatlinburg, a Tobar Gatlinburg
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and went down in the moonshot afterwards.
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So, yeah, that was great. So, we were married for like a
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week before. We were like and the ceremony
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and stuff. Okay.
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Okay. It's hilarious though that
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Jeremy talks about his wife because, you know, we started
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this podcast and not long back after, you know, Jeremy would
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sons of Saturday and some other guys, you start listening up and
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you slide into our DM's with some shit in there.
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You did wider out in. It was very nice, but then, all
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of a sudden, you know, things here and there and won't Sunday
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morning. He pops us a picture of
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something he's doing with his wife.
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And I sit there and I'm like holy shit this girl looks so
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fucking familiar talk to Jeremy but hey Jeremy is your
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girlfriend Virginia he's like yeah listen man I know this is
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really random. She might change from Halifax
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County and Jeremy. She is can confirm, he was born
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and raised in Halifax County and I'm sitting here.
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I'm like Jeremy that's where me and Brian grew up.
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How, you know, how old is your wife?
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He tells how she is, we're not going to mention that because
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she's not going to kick me whenever she sees me in the near
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future in Blacksburg 33, you said it.
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Not a throw off the hook. So where is she?
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But she was in high school. And
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everybody listening. Stop pause go.
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Follow him when In Blacksburg go by the Main Street Pharmacy.
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Give him a visit during game days.
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I'm sure he's got a bunch of stuff in there.
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You need for after the game. Oh yeah.
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I probably won't be there on game day, someone will be the
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cold Jeremy, the extreme rational fan like you're
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rational when you're come to your takes, but you're very
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extreme with how you put those takes out there.
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I'm very logical but I'm also really passionate in my lat if
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that makes sense. He's absolutely - lately.
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Wake Forest off. We usually have a loss like that
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every year. I was just it up to hey it's us.
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It fucking happens. Whatever we're moving on and
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that was how I felt and then goddamn Liberty happened,
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fucking Liberty happened and that.
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Oh my God, that was a shit show, like even getting into patient
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and been in the game with us even getting to the stupid
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timeout. And the stupid defensiveness up
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at the end of the day game even without that, it should not have
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been that close. And I know I Super Bowl.
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They were coming out and they were ready for it.
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You have to win those games. These are games, you have to
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get, and I was around for, you know, the JMU lost back in the
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day. I was around for all that
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bullshit. We cannot afford to have losses
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like that, right now. We're trying to reprogram.
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Yep. Yep.
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If Was, you know, you know, talking about JMU at the time,
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we could recover from a loss like that both on the recruiting
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front, you know, rallying the next reference here.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You can recover from that. It's very hard to recover from
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that when you're already, treading water in the ACC.
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And that's, that's where the Hokies are right now.
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They're treading water in the ACC treading water, will we see?
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And then the next week, they play their nuts off against
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Miami and then everybody forgets how to play in the fourth
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quarter. God, I was at that game.
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I'm in felt the entire game. Felt like we were going to win
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that game and I was like, you know what, you know, fuck the
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Livery. At least we're going to be Miami
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and we're going to go on we're gonna fucking beat UVA and I was
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like it's gonna be all right? And then it just stops.
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It's like anytime it comes down to us having to score some
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points at the end. We just can't seem to fucking do
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it. No attention.
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I was full force that day. I brought out the crown and the
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Myrtle and everything. The turn is the turnover expert.
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Alleged promise, I'll never break out again, because they
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game because it the entire time, it felt like we were winning.
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Yeah, I felt like we were going to win.
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We're going to right the wrong, but the fourth quarter happened
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and we well, we suck the fat one.
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I'm going to just add that the next week hit and that was I was
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on here. Liberty was the end for me for
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Coach? Like, I'm over you like you?
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When people are telling me who went to that game like they
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couldn't get the guys up. Yeah.
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No, you can't get the guys up to a team, you should smash.
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Yeah, you and that is on your entire coaching staff.
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So yeah. Well with Liberty, the pit game.
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That's what happened. Really really.
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That was my Rubicon. I was blacked out.
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Tina's house. And we're sitting there, and I'm
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downstairs, I'm with a bunch of college students, down there and
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Reggie and frankenteen and where I'll watch a ballgame and by the
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second half when they start pulling away, I just, I'm just
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going at it. I finish a fifth of jmo and then
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I seen Richie and he brings me a bottle Buffalo Trace.
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So I'm just taking pulls on Buffalo Trace.
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I've got these poor kids in there and I'm just like yelling
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this is why y'all gotta donate to the Hokey Club.
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Here. Because that night, that was
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bronze Rubicon. So that it 11:00, I put the kids
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to bed, he puts the kids to bed, we put two wives to bed, and I'm
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sitting here, he's pounding on Pam's, and I'm sitting here and
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I'm pouring shots and he looked. And he's like, what the fuck you
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doing. I'm like, I don't know what else
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to do and I know you're supposed to, I don't drink, like, I used
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to About two to three shots and bring about eight beers.
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Yeah. Whoo.
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Let's just say when my four-year-old three-year-old
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woke up at 6:30, the next morning, my wife is pregnant.
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I had to go. I was just glad she didn't know.
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Hope she doesn't listen. So tomorrow's.
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Don't okay, so that game happens.
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You get blackout. We get hammered late-night
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recording podcasts in the Clemson game.
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When we have a week off, then Clemson happens.
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And for three quarters of Clemson.
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It was like, okay. Absolutely, we need to get to
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the point where we're putting the same team on the field every
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week. Yes.
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Because right now I have no idea what team is going to come out
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week to week. And generally what I expect is
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we're going to play exactly to whatever our damn competition is
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now. And you all know me.
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I actually love food. Like I thought food was a great
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hire. I was all for the extension
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through are too rough or Seasons.
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It was like okay we pretty much got a delayed rebuild, we do.
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This is going to happen through this.
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Whenever we had some struggles, I was like, you know, it's
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covid. It's whatever.
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It's, you know, we're going to get through this, but it is just
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it's too much. This is too much.
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This season was too much and to make those calls and This and I
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hate the people that are just like, oh well, it's just a
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football game. It's just what they don't
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fucking have a goddamn clue. This isn't just a football game.
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This program is so huge to the economy here in Blacksburg and I
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represent these businesses. I do, I go, I volunteer my time
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on boards for these businesses, I do everything I can for this
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community and I whenever I feel like like, we're not being
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heard, or we're not like people are not Hearing about it, it
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upsets me because the better this team does, the better it is
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for the economy better, it is for the school, better is for
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our culture. And I think we're losing sight
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of our culture and I think our cultural decline started in
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2007. Whenever Jim Weaver made the
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huge fuck up of getting rid of stick it in, that was just a
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huge fuck you, too. Virginia Tech game, day,
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culture, and downhill, and they've been cracking down on it
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forever, because art everyone goes on About SEC tailgates.
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This is that give me a fucking game day in Blacksburg any
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fucking day. And back in the day it was my
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goddamn wild. That's what people fucking
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understand and people are losing side of that.
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They're losing sight of what made us special.
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And it's heartbreaking for me to see because they don't just they
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don't get it. And it's sad and I'm fucking
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done with it. Yeah, those are.
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Haven't lived in those who didn't go through that.
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Read and see what what it was about.
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Those teams were about and what tailgating there was about and
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what the just the whole game day atmosphere that you're talking
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about like electric if it's fun when you're in the stadium.
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Like it's not just about running out and jump into salmon.
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It was not looking quarters of that shit.
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Yeah, I don't I feel like we've lost some of that to it.
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Yeah, it used to be for fucking quarters of it used to be My
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first game was 03. My first game was 03 UCF Labor
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Day weekend, 330 kit. That's got like it's still
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ingrained in my mind. Big man's over here.
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Was 2002 Rutgers, right? Yes sir, we remember that 17 and
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18 years gone by, and when you walked into we were, we were on
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prices for because that's where I guys tailgated, that's where
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our buddies. Who went to Tech tailgate,
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that's where we were before, we could go downtown.
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No, I never had a fake ID, I just dealt with what I dealt
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with sitting there in your parting, you're having fun,
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you're meeting people left and right, and you feel the energy,
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and then all of a sudden, whatever time kickoff was me and
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Brandon go there, but whoever did they were like time to go,
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gotta walk. Gotta walk to get to the stadium
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to get him. Yep.
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And as you started going, it was like this flood.
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It was the for cause you saw the peel.
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The first time I went, it was just like, like, I kind of get
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this feeling like, okay, every like everybody knows we're going
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to the stadium, you get in, you jump for the first time.
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You feel it that game, though, going into the third and fourth
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quarters tackles easily, win the game.
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Pit Mill was electric. It still was this hostility like
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we want to beat your fucking brains in.
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Yes, you by 50 and as You stated the Germany as we got into the
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ACC as 2007. They take stick it in a way.
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It's like we got less and less nasty.
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Yes we did. Unfortunately what happened was
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2007 was Russ for us, we came out and we had the shooting that
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happened and then that happened and that was used against us -
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Only four years in recruiting and everything else that
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happened and then we go along and you know, they're taking
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away, stick it in because their words are huge.
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There was just this huge microscope on Blacksburg at the
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top on and they took away, stick it in because of that that was
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their call. You know, they didn't want to
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have us you know out there having fun on camera.
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God fucking forbid that and they take that away and then of
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course in 2007, all the Michael Vick stuff happened.
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Yeah. So we had Michael Vick was you
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know the the player from Virginia Tech in a lot of ways
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that of course we had like Bruce Smith and everyone from before.
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For bit, Michael Vick was like this next level Superstar.
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He was a world Superstar. Yep, you fucking dick.
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And he represented Us in. Then he went down.
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So we had all these cultural hits.
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And Jim Weaver has taken away, goddamn, stick it in right in
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the middle of all this turmoil and it was one of the worst
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decisions anyone could have ever made and it was a huge blow to
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our culture. So, we just took a lot of blows
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that year and it was, it was rough. it was it was hard to
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watch but that's 13 years ago this year and still you still
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think over the last 13 years, though, some ACC titles were won
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bowl games, were made, you know, 10-win Seasons happened and what
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probably irritates Probably you more than us is when you hear
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the freaking thing of Virginia Tech, has what third most living
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don't alumni right now. And then, someone such as
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yourself who is really looking into it like seeing the amount
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of donors in a. What you did with that Buffalo
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Trace, I hope it's stuck to some of those 18 night 21, 22
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year-old kids. Make it 25 two times a year.
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Four times a year, eight times a year, 12 times a year.
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If that's all you have great. But what where do you think that
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fucked up? Do you think that was Weaver's
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fucking Jim Weaver? That's full-on again, Weaver
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Jim, Weaver only cared about big donors.
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And That's where a good chunk of our change come from, but Jim
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Weaver left us in quite a bit of a hole because Jim Weaver to his
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credit, did give a fuck about football.
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That's all he cared about. And that's kind of why we were
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in a hole, but he also only cared about me donors.
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So he didn't have this entire, he didn't realize that there's
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an entire base that you can tap in donating and he didn't
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capitalize on the years that we were great to get us a donor
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base, to keep us there. And we were So behind we relied
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Forever on just our name to bring recruits to bring everyone
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else here and Frank's been gone for a while now.
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Yep. Yep.
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We aren't you know a perennial like ACC title container.
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We're not anymore. Well my day 10-win seasons were
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expected. Yep.
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That was that was expected. Like we were always in the
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National conversation. That's what we were used to.
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And now it's just like we don't care and I don't mind, I
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absolutely love our non-revenue Sports.
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I love all that we should be spending for that and what I
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don't like is the fact that the university is choosing not to
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fund our football program the right way.
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And I know that that's changing and may whole said it's
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changing. Everyone else has said is
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changing and we are getting more money.
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We've got more donors on board for football Improvement program
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and we did needed to need to update a lot of the facilities.
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So I understand a lot of that. But we let our fucking cash
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bail. Starve.
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In the meantime, we did not take care of our fucking cash cow or
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what are in our culture is about.
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Yep. They're all converging Tech is
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the football team that he draw. If you're not eating that, then
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you're letting other things slowly die.
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They might look like they're doing, okay?
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But they are slowly dying. Like, I love her basketball
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team. That has been absolutely
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wonderful to see Buzz. I got real mad when Buzz left,
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but I understand why Buzz laughs.
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I understand. You know, he wasn't gonna be
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here for long but I appreciate everything, but a stiff for The
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end when we found you, everybody knew we're signing an assassin
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to get our program. No, no one ever had the
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expectation. He's gonna be myself that he
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was, you know, that's come down in the last, I mean, really
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starting like late, We're just like one thing after another.
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After another, just the hits keep coming.
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It's been fucking - even the most optimistic person is like
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this ain't it the same it. Well, hold on.
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The majority of people that probably we just talked with and
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in us three talking amongst ourselves.
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Another people fans were about to win today.
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This year was going into after last year, after the end of the
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seasons, like it's going to be okay, he looks like he's
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stabilized. All season henin's.
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Coming back as quarterback. Look like the offensive lines.
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Don't look good. Didn't covid happen.
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But everybody had coded, everybody.
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This wasn't just like well state of Virginia can't do jack shit.
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No one could do jack shit, no more.
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And so we get into the season, we open up with NC State and
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it's like, okay, yeah, this is what I'm talking about.
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Braxton's gonna fucking crush them.
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It felt so good. And then like the first six
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games happened and where we're going to revert in.
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But like it's okay. This is what we expect.
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We're only going to win four of the last, you know, four of the
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last five, we're going to finish the shading three.
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We're on a good track, but then when all the other stuff start
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have, all of us, I'm not going to say we're positive or wins
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because we're not certain people who this is.
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Okay, we're doing this. No no man no dog.
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Huh. Huh?
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Famous. If the as bad as the offseason
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is, we're going to hit the portal on a few minutes.
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Here is bad as the offseason spin.
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Tennis last year's 58,000 down obviously from The Glory Days.
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When all three of us were you were going to school there.
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Me and Brian had our buddies are.
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We could get tickets to go up watching games, stay all weekend
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party. Drink we know what came down.
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It came down from 62,000 and 2017, when we were nine and four
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competing for the ACC, One games competed with Clemson that
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night, I know we lost by 14 but that game was still a
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hard-fought game 58,000 there are people within this fan base
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that they everybody's just going to come back next year.
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No they are not going to just come back.
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This one. I take care of this community.
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These other like the restaurant to the bars downtown?
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Yeah. They're not going to be able to
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fucking afford rent, like they're struggling right now
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because the covid coming to you. Give us a mediocre a season.
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Try to come back and we've lost half our fucking office to the
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goddamn transfer. You think we're going to bring
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in fans? You think we're going to get out
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of ticket packages sales that? Well we're not.
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Nope and I mean that's the big thing.
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So Let's let's look at it from just you know we're talking
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about game day, we're talking about promotional materials at
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the teens putting out, you've lost like three guys that you
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were featuring prominently on your 2020 promotion material to
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the transfer portal. Yeah that can't happen.
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No we've never had someone just start for two years straight at
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quarterback. What?
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That tell you this hour. The same starting quarterback,
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who knows? I'm not known for a while since
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Michael Brewer. Fucking no us is what we were.
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We've all those years were poverty but we're still going
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out. And I'm sitting, like number
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one, Ohio State, we were still feel the good deed.
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We thought that was fucking poverty.
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Look at this. Now, goddamn.
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Hey, we beating UVA though. Would be maybe.
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Yeah. Hey, what about?
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I don't think he's Cutthroat enough.
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I think, I think he's a guy that just likes to coach football.
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You got to be able to, you know, cut it up with the donors.
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You got to be able to cut a guy limits of.
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He's not cutting the mustard. You got to be able to engage the
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fans like this shit. You're painting is for Pierre
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P5. I feel like we're at a point now
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where you know food goes out and has a decent press conference
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and takes responsibility for what happened on the field and
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we're say, are we cleared that fucking bar?
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That's a low ass bar to clear. I like this press conference, it
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made me feel better, but But also I know that this is just
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making me feel better. That's the thing is, I was a
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fool. I think he's great and I think
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he's a hell of a coach. I think he's excellent.
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I think he's got a great offense of mine.
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I think that he is good at what he wants to do.
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Problem is, is he isn't that CEO top coach?
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It takes to run a P5 program and that is the issue.
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And whenever you got people that are underperforming, I mean you
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got to start cut. Yeah.
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Like that's that's the thing and whenever you have multiple
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reports of certain people certain coaches phoning it in
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and saying the season doesn't matter.
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It doesn't matter. Fuck him.
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Exact time for a corn. Cob of the flicker is that I'm
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not saying any names, and I'm not doing that, because who
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knows, if it is, you know, troops true.
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It's true. My thing is is whenever you have
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that happening that is a issue that is you cannot get your kids
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prepared whenever you're saying this season doesn't matter if
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fucking matter to me it fucking matters to all the fans.
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It matters to Blacksburg and baddest our economy even though
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people can't come. It's still good for our image.
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It's good for our culture, it matters.
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So when I hear those things, it makes me Furious and then I hear
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all this and then we go. To the roller coaster that has
30:09
been happening the last few days, and it has been a
30:13
shitstorm and I'm getting everything.
30:17
I hear, especially leading up to it.
30:20
It was, I mean, it was dead-on and you all, you all know my
30:25
people as much as I do, and it was the same around town.
30:29
It was just like coaching change, it's coming.
30:31
This is what we're doing. I was like, all right, can I ask
30:34
you a question Jeremy because for me, And Brian you know we're
30:38
up here in Richmond. We went to a game last year, we
30:41
went downtown with a sharpie and went to tots.
30:43
We parked and media went up to lot one.
30:46
Tailgaters from guys from back home.
30:48
So now the first time we went in a couple years but let me ask
30:51
this since 2018, because 20, 1927, 2017, and 2016 were
30:59
sunshine, and Roses, we were 19 and eight and two seasons.
31:03
You like, you're really into them.
31:05
Like thank you. We got him for a day.
31:07
Okay, we're going to be competing every year. 2018
31:13
happens. What has been the mood in the
31:16
town itself with? I'm sure, you know, alumni.
31:19
And, you know, business owners, since that bad season, the shit
31:23
that happened last year going up to you.
31:25
What's been the feel inside of the Town itself.
31:27
Bad season was written off. 2018, was written off
31:30
completely. I mean, people are you like
31:33
okay, this sucks but, you know, we just, we lost a lot and We
31:38
did. I mean through both 2016, 2017
31:42
it was we lost a lot of our tailing them and we have it
31:46
replaced them. We had to redo a lot of things
31:48
Jerrod going early was not great.
31:50
Bucky orderly was not great, it's satisfactory bit.
31:53
I really think that 2017 season could have been really special,
31:57
I don't draw it. Especially here in more and
32:00
more. I know Hendon who hit the
32:03
transfer portal. I love you handy.
32:06
You you go out. You be great somewhere else.
32:09
I'll always root for you Gerard. He was taken such a beating in
32:14
their scheme because we use our quarterbacks like fullbacks a
32:18
lot. Yep.
32:19
And he was taking a beating and that's that's a bit of an issue
32:25
whenever you know you've got Jerrod who had a family to think
32:29
of he went one year too early. He would stay one more year.
32:33
His entire life would be different.
32:35
Yeah. And we had abused Him so much
32:38
that he felt like he had to go even though if he stayed one
32:41
more year, it would have helped us draft rating.
32:44
It would have helped everything. Is it working?
32:47
He could have broken his own records Jerrod with excellent.
32:50
It to him. He was making the right decision
32:52
because I think he got some bad advice.
32:54
And I think it's because he was afraid, he was going to get
32:56
injured and that's a problem. Whenever we're having our best
32:59
Helen afraid that, we're misusing them, and we're losing
33:02
out on them too early and they go on.
33:04
And I mean, these are these are people's lives.
33:08
And they're making these decisions based on the fact that
33:11
we may actually get them hurt. You know, maybe not run your
33:16
quarterback until he is body is destroyed.
33:20
Well it's I know we love are scrambling cubies here today but
33:24
you know scramble is different than running quarterback than
33:26
our own third nineteen exactly like we don't need to hook Ur,
33:34
the only two quarterbacks, he was fucking behind and rushing
33:37
with The two fucking option, quarterbacks at Army and Navy
33:40
and it was, it wasn't a large margin.
33:42
It was like ten carries and you're like the fucking and then
33:47
obviously, you want to get somebody fired up.
33:50
Hey, Jeremy asked, Brian about third and six quarterback
33:53
Powers. Oh my fucking God.
33:56
I'm with you. Brian dude.
34:07
You don't know, hey, Jeremy when they do that and then they roll
34:10
out. BJ for a 53-yard field gold.
34:14
My my phone is going, what the fuck?
34:19
And I'm just like, big guys. Got something to say later on
34:21
tonight. So, okay, let's go back to black
34:24
bird. After the Duke game. 2019 was a
34:28
field. Not good.
34:31
Duke game was rough. It was that's the thing as we
34:34
were we were honoring. God, it was that was it ninety?
34:38
Nineteen ninety nineteen. Yeah, how did you know we were
35:04
Not much to ask like, I do businesses.
35:06
That would sponsor that I would sponsor that I would buy all the
35:10
food. I would do, whatever I had set
35:12
up a desk, they could go and they can interact with the fans.
35:15
They can sign some shit. It would be a boy.
35:18
Last your 140, head? Out of space.
35:27
Yeah, okay. And I said to Brian, like,
35:29
that's the spot and you really have something cool rap along
35:34
that. So we're sell tickets to fans to
35:36
say, would you like to go hang out with some of the Hokey
35:39
Legends hundred dollars? You can have an hour with a few?
35:43
How many fans would be long ago. Exactly.
35:47
That's what you Sergio's, a Christians Bird.
35:50
Come on some stuff here. It's her just chomping at the
35:54
bit to try to do something. Things.
35:56
These are layouts man. They are missing you too hard to
35:59
do and it feels like there's a huge disconnect with with a lot
36:04
of things that are going on. In these obvious things that we
36:07
can do. This is not hard.
36:10
These are things that are suggested and they're just like,
36:12
yeah, like the king of the good news on him and Sydney has a
36:19
former player tailgate every week.
36:21
For those who want to attend it Hammond fucking City division,
36:24
three football. And it didn't If I wanted to go
36:27
there, there's free food for me every damn Saturday, man.
36:31
And you don't even have to do much every fucking Heaven, just
36:35
like dishes from the dining halls and I would eat dead up,
36:40
man. You don't have to do that much.
36:42
Bring us some fucking fantastic Frank's London, Broil all that
36:45
shit. That everyone's like, just like
36:46
yes, the fucking one has one, bro.
36:49
Bring that out. Do that at the tailgate have all
36:52
the old hokey favors? People like me with eat that.
36:55
Uh-oh, people love that shit. If any if you had guys like
37:03
surge there, Dave on Morgan, you know, and to us those were big
37:08
players. Hey to the entire other world.
37:12
It's well tie rod was good in the Edmonds and you know Vic and
37:16
white motherfucker like guys. Like oh god.
37:21
Um like Sergio, I'm trying to think freaking jail Grove life.
37:29
English boy long ago, Tweety we work with Tweety's bad.
37:35
Awesome. Yeah but it's like those easy
37:44
things where you ask Virginia Tech Pam, I'll ask you to
37:47
Jeremy, you think of Alonzo Tweety?
37:48
What's the first place? You think of My, what the named
37:53
Alonzo Tweety? The first place.
37:57
You think of when you think of Alonzo, Tweety, fuck, did you
38:00
put me on the spot? Will take you back to 2011
38:05
against Miami. The last tackle Tweety made that
38:11
tackle. Oh fuck you man.
38:18
Well the only reason we do like his pops.
38:22
Yeah well that piece of There Are Places their players like
38:26
that. Then I can tell you right?
38:28
Like I could say who's your most fan?
38:30
Random poke that only be random? Yeah.
38:33
Just randomly Yeah. Nikki Giovanni.
38:44
I love Nikki. That is hard.
39:03
All right, I like that. He was absolutely amazing and he
39:16
he just stuck with me and of course, we have our football
39:19
players. I mean, Anyway.
39:23
But yeah, it's hard to think of so many people in the league for
39:30
my day. Yeah, yeah.
39:32
So it's that's a grand random for us.
39:35
Is like, okay, well they released on a practice squad for
39:38
yaxha. Yeah, exactly.
39:52
But it's like, how tough is it to get these guys together?
39:57
But how tough is it for the athletic department to Simply go
40:00
up and say let's create a physician pay.
40:03
The person 65 thousand dollars a year.
40:06
This is your job, you will attempt to connect with every
40:10
hokey football alumni and you will create a vents here on
40:15
campus during day and then create events throughout the
40:18
state. During the year to get these
40:19
guys together and talk and bring unwanted You know, Hank fucking
40:23
needless jobs, they have on campus.
40:29
I know exactly how many they have on campus.
40:35
Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying they can afford
40:38
a little extra for alumni. Outreach exactly diffic to our
40:43
former players and I know Sergio would do it.
40:46
He's dying to do it. Get Sergio to do it.
40:49
I think Dwight would do it, but I also don't think Dwight would
40:52
leave Leave the 757 right now. Yeah Dwight's not only do I
40:56
don't like going on there but you know what this is not what
41:01
he is because he is a. Why couldn't you just say will
41:17
make serves the primary will let the white and run you said some
41:22
pops. Is the widest, a 70 Nova,
41:25
there's a noble, but he's got a lot of his stuff he works with
41:29
his in 7576. He was still in the 757.
41:34
That's why I because he had all the he has like Victory life and
41:37
everything. Yeah, I think that that's still
41:40
in the Senate by someone. I think he lives in Nova.
41:42
If I'm not mistaken. God you tell me.
41:44
You couldn't stroke him a check for 25,000 a year to do that
41:47
part. Time to go create the gym
41:50
because I give a thousand a month just to do that.
41:52
Shit. That's just, what are you going
41:56
to do? You're going to create your own,
41:58
what is it? The 501 case is that the
42:00
nonprofit. Let's let's create a pledge fund
42:03
and then just let no, I'm not doing that to him.
42:50
Literally, that's all and everyone was talking about.
42:52
It was. Yeah, and it's not even just
42:56
like, randos coming in. Talk to me.
42:58
You all know like everyone in the know knew it was happening.
43:03
Yeah, it was all over Twitter. It was all over message boards.
43:08
It was all over Word of Mouth. Even counting all the noise out,
43:12
everything else. Everyone in the know that you
43:16
all know that I know. The people that aren't out there
43:20
tweeting about this stuff or talking, they were saying the
43:24
same thing. I was hearing the same thing
43:27
from people, that's just what I thought we were going to do and
43:32
don't get me wrong. I I don't want this to happen.
43:37
No. Because I want to, to be the
43:40
greatest coach to ever be because I think he's great coach
43:44
and I think he is a good person. Let me know what you to succeed.
43:49
The problem is is I don't think he can hear.
43:52
I think it's a bad fit and I think he could go somewhere else
43:56
and do that. But I think he came into a bad
43:58
situation. I think he came into a place
44:01
where the infrastructure was not there to give him the county
44:04
needed, because I don't think he is a great recruiter, but I
44:08
think he is an excellent coach once he has them.
44:12
So we're essentially saying he's not a guy that can go in.
44:16
He needs help getting them in the building.
44:18
Once they're in the building striking, do think and do some
44:21
action. We all see the video from
44:23
ordered a night thing is once their players and he's coaching
44:26
them, he's going to be a great coach.
44:29
Ouch. Okay.
44:30
That is what I'm saying. He's going to put them in
44:32
situations thing is he has to know his limitations.
44:38
Yeah, I think he's good. I think what he did in 2016 2017
44:42
shows that he knows what he's doing.
44:44
Yep. The problem is I think he has to
44:50
have people around him to do a lot of things for him.
44:55
He can't be the person to go out and sell the program.
44:59
Even though I like him personally, Everyone likes him
45:02
personally, I don't think he's that charismatic person to go
45:06
out. He's the polar office owed a
45:08
bow, but also, I think he's five billion times the coach Dabo
45:13
could ever fucking dream of being caused a boatswain, he's
45:16
nothing. But a fucking charlatan at
45:18
channeling are funneling money through a goddamn truth.
45:21
That's all he fucking is fuck. Dabo Swinney.
45:25
And he used that shooting to fucking negatively recruit us
45:27
and I'll take that against him too.
45:29
Fucking die. So do you think that can sell
45:37
the program right now that are on our staff that theft?
45:41
Yeah I'm thinking tab J, Hamm and great.
45:44
Both of those guys are squares Manning.
45:46
I'm counting it. Jay Happ nasty but I was a
45:56
freshman when he was a senior R & J.
46:00
Hamm was, I was one of those freshman.
46:02
I was good enough to get in the game.
46:04
Just a little bit. This man.
46:07
He was good. Yeah, I know what you do
46:09
anything with him. He was a running back back then.
46:12
Yep. Yeah it's just one of those
46:13
freak athletes and just mad you can do anything with him.
46:18
My cousin Rob who was also a freak athlete but he he swatted
46:25
J. Hamm in basketball and that that
46:27
will always stick with me. That's right.
46:29
Was a sophomore in the time? Career highlight right there?
46:36
I don't know. Rob had a lot of career
46:38
highlights. That was just one of those
46:39
things that it was fun. This have you met has been there
46:49
and this staff honestly can't talk about that.
46:59
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
47:05
Give me a few words to what's press conference on Monday.
47:08
She need a yeah, so it's like what we're
47:47
trying to build a goddamn, the people who complain Shut the
47:55
fuck up. Come on.
48:22
Y'all. But you know what?
48:23
Pissed me off more. Well you can't just do this and
48:27
just tear it down. Well, you dumb fuck.
48:30
Excuse me. If you like to it I think he's
48:32
good. You dumb.
48:33
Fuck you saw it just tapping in the portal.
48:36
You have a 3 and 9 season, it's not going to be torn down.
48:39
It's going to be burnt down and there's going to be no
48:42
structure. Then we're going to figure out
48:44
what the fuck, dude, he actually brought it up in the press
48:47
conference that, well, if we get rid of him, we're not going to
48:51
have half our players. It's my first.
48:53
Look what's going on right now. Just say that.
48:56
Jesus, goddamn Christ. Not the players that were
49:00
sitting third and fourth string on the bench.
49:03
We lost his mother. Yeah, he saw.
49:11
What was happening on Twitter? He saw.
49:12
What the record was this year? He saw the former players
49:16
chiming in. He saw all of this stuff.
49:18
This, you know, you are astray. It's just He was like, oh no.
49:57
Fantastic job with everything he has touched except football.
50:04
All right? That is the thing.
50:06
That is the trade-off when it is.
50:08
God damn good at his job. He's just I don't know what's
50:12
going on with football. I don't know why this is
50:15
happening. That's the thing is we got our
50:17
great athletic athletic department overall.
50:22
We need more funding and we destroyed the Rector and we've
50:28
got a, we've got Foo who is a great coach.
50:35
But we're not getting the results we want in football.
50:39
So there are infrastructure issues, there are funding
50:43
issues. There are a lot of issues.
50:46
I don't give a fuck. Make it work.
50:50
Jesus, fucking Christ. The thing that pisses me off the
50:54
most. Yeah, I understand but I don't
51:11
really fucking care. Is Big Ten school.
51:15
You don't have to. You do this huge thing, we're
51:17
bringing all in the suit. You're not going to have a bunch
51:19
of students want to come here. If we don't have a culture who
51:24
the fuck would want to come? And just like go to a college
51:28
that don't have a culture, can we show Sands the enrollment
51:32
figures going up and up and up relative to the football
51:36
success. We can show impact That's a
51:47
really long story. The 95 boom went to Sugar Bowl
51:53
and then the night it were the, it went from like nice steady
51:58
growth to look. And it's like, first of all,
52:02
begin Make a lot of statements or
52:19
judgments on anyone when I don't know them or their thought
52:22
process because I'm a fair-minded person.
52:25
So it's worth the but the college football bubble is going
52:30
to burst. He said that what six years ago
52:32
Braun seven years ago called I want to say, I thought so 2014,
52:38
he said well college football football bubble is going to
52:42
burst with the revenues. What did He just not see the
52:47
SEC. Get a 55 million dollar purse
52:49
full contract fucking Disney. I don't think he quite
52:53
understands even if there are attendance issues across the
52:58
board, there's still a lot of goddamn TV money and that TV
53:04
money and there's still a lot of culture that brings kids into
53:07
want to come here. Yeah.
53:09
Just want to go to a boring ass school.
53:13
I don't know what to tell him, but anyone can go.
53:16
Get a degree fucking anywhere. Now, they consider their house
53:19
to get it in degree. The reason the kids go to
53:21
college is to college experience.
53:23
If they're paid a premium for it and you're going, you're getting
53:26
the fucking experience and you're getting a better
53:28
education and you're you're getting everything that you
53:31
want. But the case you were going to
53:35
come down, you're expanding your horizons and meeting new people.
53:38
You're doing things that actually, you can.
53:43
I know you grew up out in the Far, West part of State.
53:46
We grow on the south side part of the state.
53:47
We grew up in a very quick sap, Deep South way.
53:53
We're middle South, we grew up in small communities that for
53:58
us, going to college and getting those experiences and meeting
54:01
people. You know, you know, and I know
54:04
that if we'd stayed in our hometowns, we would never have
54:07
the opportunity ever to get there to do.
54:11
Those sort of things to meet those sort of people to go to
54:15
game. Um, dates to have these
54:17
experiences. That's why.
54:19
And if you're taking turning a blind eye to not thinking that
54:22
six seven times a year, when there's a game and when there's
54:27
a big game, there's 120,000 people.
54:33
That's his View and you said, you've never personally met him.
54:36
I'm like to have a conversation with him and saying, what do you
54:39
think? Because education is important.
54:41
Don't get me wrong. Yes, they I don't think he's
54:48
quite getting it and I'm not sure he will.
54:52
But we come from these small towns and I came here because I
55:00
I actually came from a group of people that were UVA fans,
55:05
believe it or not back in looks outfits.
55:07
Virginia, my family, a bunch of UVA fans because they had quote,
55:10
unquote UVA College. It was.
55:12
And that's where my family went, like in undergrad.
55:15
Okay. And a girl, that's, the thing
55:20
is, I came here because I came up here and he was like, dude,
55:28
you got to + Michael Vick was my first First college football
55:31
game and that was awesome. Fucking stomping Eva, he came
55:36
out and like I also my first NFL game was Michael Vick versus
55:41
Peyton Manning, who my favorite quarterback, saber, holy hell,
55:45
yeah, it was awesome. Michael Vick when he can't die.
55:50
If you've not seen him throw a pass in person.
55:52
It's a fucking laser. Like hate it.
55:55
There's no there's no air under the ball.
55:58
It's just fucking laser out there.
55:59
It's amazing. But more motion either.
56:02
It's a flick. It just Let It Go.
56:14
That was a part of the culture was Rock.
56:16
Came here and Rob full-on was just like Jeremy.
56:20
This is an amazing place to be in college.
56:23
You need to come here and I was like, of course, I need fucking
56:27
go there. Rob's Probably sounds great.
56:30
It sounds amazing. Yeah.
56:31
I mean do we think this sounds really understands the impact
56:35
and we'll think about it. from from your perspective, like the
56:39
economic impact of game day weekends, like, just the
56:44
potential that's there and the fact that it's not being Let me
56:55
hear you ever went out into the tailgate into the downtown area
57:00
when there is a game day and literally the streets are
57:02
packed, bustling people in, and out of all the shops people in
57:07
and out of all of the restaurants, people Paine Park,
57:10
wherever they can park. I want to say yes, but because
57:14
it's hard to avoid but it's one of those things where I don't
57:19
know. I mean, he has to have, but
57:23
you're mad. Yeah, he's a prominent figure
57:27
out, they're out and about I don't want to make a lot of
57:31
judgments on sands and his character, because I don't
57:33
personally know. Okay, but it's, that's not
57:36
something I will. Do you all know me?
57:38
I will get fired up and I will give my opinion on literally
57:41
anything, but I will reserve my opinion when it comes to quite a
57:47
bit of things that I don't quite know.
57:49
Well, we're with you. We with you for 20.
57:52
Don't get us wrong. I think you're good coach.
57:53
I think he's a good human being. I think I want to hurt person,
57:59
but also you hear people, you know, up here in our VA, we have
58:04
David to you, you know, great sports writer for so many years
58:07
in Virginia. And he says, if you step in the
58:09
office with him, he's so different.
58:12
And you feel like if, if the food that is just getting that
58:15
one-on-one sitting down in a chair with you, You feel like if
58:20
you got him and some of the donors like that the deal would
58:23
just be like just keep stroking them checks like he's like me.
58:26
It's just everybody. Every single person that I've
58:29
ever heard talk about him in a smaller situation.
58:32
It's just like right? Just he's great guy.
58:36
Now I lost my train of thought there because I was at my beard
58:42
and his partner. It's one of those things where
59:22
it's a I'd like to hear from you and your coordinators every
59:28
week, but I'd like to hear from you on the radio in the markets
59:33
where your fan base is located. I'd like to give you a lisp in
59:37
Blacksburg. I might see videos, listen to
59:42
the drive every day with Paul. I absolutely love all three of
59:47
them. I also get shit-faced drunk with
59:50
those people. They are people.
59:53
They also have one of the best radio shows out there.
59:56
Yeah. I absolutely love them, and
59:58
people who don't listen to them, need to listen to drive because
1:00:01
they are awesome. But they have had issues in the
1:00:07
past, not so much with Foo, they had a lot of problems with Buzz.
1:00:12
They Jeremy Why doesn't he go in there for a 15-minute hit?
1:00:22
He could even pre-recorded with them every week.
1:00:25
Why doesn't he do that in Richmond?
1:00:27
Why doesn't he do that in the 75?
1:00:29
Why doesn't he do that in Nova? Why doesn't he do that up in
1:00:31
through the out? The valley?
1:00:32
See that thing open it, dude, you've got to get yourself out
1:00:37
there and then the other pieces will be like during spring.
1:00:42
Open the scrimmages for people in town and for the students you
1:00:47
can open it for 30 minutes. At the end, people would come
1:00:51
what the people on the field. It's the easy but it's the
1:00:56
funniest is, people are thinking we have to do all these things.
1:00:59
Do the easiest stuff, you do, the easiest stuff
1:01:18
that is. I think a lot of our problems
1:01:26
have been us thinking what we are doing is quite a good
1:01:31
enough, kind of like the high school situation we have in 804
1:01:35
and 757 that we burned several bridges in some of the more
1:01:41
prominent high schools in those areas
1:01:56
and those kids and their trainers.
1:02:04
Fuck all of them because guess what?
1:02:08
Dollars just to continue, talking to your five-star son.
1:02:11
No, go to hell, go fuck yourself, I don't care.
1:02:15
No, they're sitting around forever.
1:02:17
Oh, you need to recruit more, you're going to send them out of
1:02:20
state. Anyway, what the fuck do you
1:02:22
care? You're just trying to push your
1:02:23
third tier athletes on us. No, fuck you and fuck all them.
1:02:29
No, I'm not hearing that. That number pretty bridges
1:02:33
burnt, thanks. No, I'm sorry.
1:02:35
I'm sorry. We're not Clemson.
1:02:36
I'm sorry. We didn't get down in the mud.
1:02:38
Add too much, you know, maybe we should maybe we fucking should
1:02:42
have but also fuck all those coaches and fuck those trainers.
1:02:47
I will say this is a bigger problem in 757 than it is in
1:02:50
other parts. Of course it is 75 cent dirty
1:02:53
shit you know what I know and I definitely know it has found a
1:03:12
way to monetize it. They have found a little
1:03:14
industry there where they're going to make.
1:03:16
Lunch money. Yep.
1:03:18
And I want to see all of those fuckers wrecked because they are
1:03:21
hurting the schools and state, they are hurting these kids in a
1:03:24
lot of ways because they sent him off to programs that are
1:03:26
just paying for Access. They'll do anything to these
1:03:28
kids. How many kids are you seeing
1:03:31
like going off and these are high ranked athletes?
1:03:34
They don't do shit better than nothing since what about Steve
1:03:39
started with the 75771 7th 3rd, Prince, but I want you all to
1:03:46
follow me. Me through these last three
1:03:47
days. Just follow me.
1:03:50
Yep. We had the build up the huge
1:03:54
buildup. We knew it was happening.
1:03:56
Yeah. You knew it was happening.
1:03:59
I knew it was happening. We knew was happening.
1:04:03
Leaked on Twitter and now what's that?
1:04:05
Fucking guys named Brendan Murphy McMurphy the one more
1:04:09
week. Hey, The fuck.
1:04:17
What? I know what.
1:04:45
Sunday afternoon or Monday morning, if we were keeping him
1:04:50
that shitty press conference, All right, so we get that that's
1:04:57
Monday. Then we get well and we're still
1:05:00
skeptical invited. Maybe they really fucked it up
1:05:03
and they kept you. I was skeptical until the tech
1:05:05
talk live. Had food coming online.
1:05:08
Oh no, he's paying. He went
1:05:23
blocker. All right.
1:05:32
Oh, there's no way to hide it. It was a shit show Witnesses.
1:05:35
We don't have to sugarcoat this. It was a shit show.
1:05:58
That press conference was awful. That was eight.
1:06:01
Shitshow train wreck that was actually a train wreck.
1:06:04
Hauling manure. That was awful.
1:07:28
Like come on. How do you not know this is
1:07:29
going on? But I said, wish you know that
1:07:32
to frustrating it's frustrating and I like these people, but
1:07:38
it's frustrating. Yeah.
1:07:40
It's a to meet the whole whipping, it felt like he was
1:07:42
coming out there and lecturing us on while we were wrong
1:07:46
instead of saying here's why I think I'm right, well.
1:07:56
For all the bad things but hey, I'm not going to speculate
1:08:01
because I've speculated enough for the day.
1:08:03
I think maybe. Yeah.
1:08:29
That have not been here. But one year, approximately say
1:08:33
that, but we dehumanize we need to humanize somebody.
1:08:39
Well, guess what? They don't let the guy talk.
1:08:42
Let him talk to him, but yeah, I'm talking about corn.
1:08:55
You have to talk y'all send one positional coach out and players
1:08:59
out. Since you're you going I was
1:09:02
apologizing for corn. I was actually very Pro corn at
1:09:07
the beginning, the season, our offense was rolling, everything
1:09:10
was going pretty well. I was I was fully Bob in the
1:09:15
problem I have with corn in general is not so Much.
1:09:18
The design of the offense were the plays.
1:09:21
Its the situational play calling.
1:09:23
Yes but it's hard for me. It's hard for me to actually
1:09:28
because if it happened to work, yeah, great.
1:09:33
He's a genius which know what's I think ever called him.
1:09:36
But I have a hard time criticizing play calling because
1:09:42
I think that is like the lowest hanging fruit whenever you get
1:09:46
when it is over. Production that I care about and
1:09:50
I was very pleased at the beginning of the season, but it
1:09:54
became so apparent that we were having issues that it's thing
1:10:02
about corn is, it's not even so much the question play calling
1:10:05
or anything else. I'm sure he's a great person.
1:10:08
I'm sure he is a little more cerebral and likes to think his
1:10:13
offenses and people who criticized him for running a
1:10:17
simple off. Fence.
1:10:18
That's how most offenses are like.
1:10:21
Granted you tend to run six to seven plays, you just do them
1:10:24
out of different formations. I mean, corn decided to cut the
1:10:27
middleman, just do a matter of one formation, but that's not my
1:10:35
Peak. Its criticism of him was.
1:10:39
I'm just not seeming that fuckin care.
1:10:43
Yeah. That that got me this year.
1:10:49
Can I say this? I think us three any part of
1:10:53
hokey notion hopes, which right in anymore definitely help with
1:10:58
right, I hope that one year from now.
1:11:03
I could to say, well fuck what was right?
1:11:05
We're going to play off or we're going on the Rose Bowl.
1:11:08
We're going. We crushed it, he nailed it.
1:11:12
And I think there are too many people out there that don't want
1:11:15
him to be, right? And that is the issue.
1:11:18
If you don't want the guy to be right, then you need to leave.
1:11:22
You can criticize, you can give your logical explanation.
1:11:25
Why? You don't think it'll work,
1:11:26
that's that's acceptable, but if you're sitting here saying, I
1:11:30
don't want him to be right. Well if you don't want them to
1:11:32
rewrite your not a hokey and you need to leave the fan base and
1:11:35
don't come back ever because you've you're actually not a
1:11:40
real fan. You care more about being right
1:11:43
than your team being good if you do that shit, then fuck you.
1:11:47
You don't care about your team. And that's that's my biggest
1:11:52
thing. With some people I want to be
1:11:54
right, I want food to be the best so I can go to ever exist
1:11:58
and I think he is a great coach. I really, really do.
1:12:02
I think he came to us who was in a bad situation just to actually
1:12:08
give a coach like through the infrastructure that he needed.
1:12:12
It was a bad fit, that's what I think.
1:12:14
Yeah. And now we have to build the
1:12:16
fit. The problem is, is we've lost a
1:12:19
lot of our momentum and credibility in the along, the
1:12:24
way. And so as Foo, and so has our
1:12:27
program. So now we are building from the
1:12:30
ground up for build from the ground up.
1:12:33
And I do see this, because if you actually look at it with a
1:12:40
reinvestment in, Into football and how we're trying to do it.
1:12:44
It is a rebuild from your one. I get that messaging agree with
1:12:49
that messaging. Yeah, I mean I think the big
1:12:54
thing is like the thing that this program hasn't done
1:12:58
historically is striking on infrastructure fronts while you
1:13:03
have the capital to do so whether it's yeah literal
1:13:07
capital or whether it's brand Capital, Virginia cat can Afford
1:13:12
whatever Virginia Tech wants to afford.
1:13:14
Anyone talking about anything? No, they have, they have more
1:13:20
money than most like, small cities.
1:13:24
It's they can do whatever they want if they really want to.
1:13:28
He's got to move the money where it needs to be.
1:13:33
You're going to throw some that make us and we'll talk Corporate
1:13:35
America because that's what I work in in Prime, working me for
1:13:39
a while, occasionally in Corporate America, the people
1:13:42
who are making the money, who are crushing it, they see the
1:13:45
benefits. They see the updates and
1:13:48
Technology. They see the biggest pay raises,
1:13:50
where the other sectors. Don't football, is the biggest
1:13:54
sector. Of the Virginia Tech athletic
1:13:57
department. And what's happened is, we
1:13:59
haven't dumped the money into it because if you dump the money
1:14:02
into it's going to produce. Now, what really the problem is,
1:14:07
we got fold with, we've got spoiled with Beamer, you got to
1:14:10
understand. Yeah, be no good and everyone
1:14:12
else, we got spoiled one fucking behind.
1:14:17
We not way behind. We were used to our name, our
1:14:20
goddamn fucking assistant, payroll used to be fourth in the
1:14:23
fucking country when you started school.
1:14:26
And we're working Juniors and sophomores challenge.
1:14:29
Came to us. Came to us and said, I want to
1:14:32
play for you. What do you mean?
1:14:37
11 came, the best player in the country came, and he, if he
1:14:40
lived up to the billing Tyrod, Taylor was the top dual threat
1:14:44
quarterback, in 2007 Tyree. One Billing is the best hokey to
1:14:50
ever put on a uniform. Oh God, here we go.
1:14:55
I love tie rod to the person.
1:15:12
He is the embodiment of poop. Rossum.
1:15:15
He is, you know why? Because he could on the San
1:15:18
Diego Chargers right now and he decided not to That won't hold
1:15:32
a half billion are without even a blank.
1:15:35
He didn't because he knew it was an accident.
1:15:38
I'll get into this. And I got called out for it.
1:15:41
On Twitter about people that don't quite understand that I
1:15:43
know what I'm talking about, but they were talking about, oh, his
1:15:49
collective. Bargaining agreement says that
1:15:50
he Can't do this or that. That doesn't matter when it
1:15:54
comes down to negligence. Yes, no.
1:15:59
Yeah, he could have, but it's also a steep slope to try to
1:16:03
prove Reckless, negligence on a doctor on Game Day, who's trying
1:16:09
to take here? It's a steep slope.
1:16:11
That would have been very hard to prove.
1:16:12
They would have had to be in. Like, all right, we we tested
1:16:16
this doctor and he was positive for meth.
1:16:21
And yes they would have had to happen so that's it Tyro.
1:16:30
So I'm going to take that, hit challenging that but no
1:16:33
not-not-not. It wasn't worth a damn move on
1:16:37
move. All this wouldn't be a problem
1:16:39
with the bills when I fucked him, the the Bills fan base.
1:16:42
I'll say right now, I hate you. Vince, for Nathan, peeterman
1:16:49
beer, Nathan Peterman - I'll never forget that game.
1:16:55
Then you're like, hey, tie rod. Do you want to come in and save
1:16:58
us? Yeah, sure why not?
1:17:01
He took the bills to the playoffs.
1:17:05
It was like the first time in fucking statue on that goddamn
1:17:10
down. I'm so mad at them.
1:17:13
All right, we're gonna move. I will ask you some we what we
1:17:16
we've got a couple questions and then you get to pick games with
1:17:19
us in a little while here. Alright, so we've all for you.
1:17:24
What are your three top games you've ever been to?
1:17:28
Oh, that's bleep. All games, I'm going to say, One
1:17:35
of my favorites. It's it's a weird random.
1:17:37
One was West Virginia. My freshman year, I was
1:17:46
shirtless, I got an ESPN because it was freezing cold, and I was
1:17:51
just drunk as shit. And I was up there in the North
1:17:56
End Zone and I was going. Wow, and they got me, I was
1:18:02
actually doing my little alcohol.
1:18:04
All the I'm doing that and doing that.
1:18:13
But it looks like my hands are really cold.
1:18:38
A older older brother, was my aura at him and Sydney he played
1:18:43
basketball hand in Sydney. Does that make sense?
1:19:08
It was on multiple levels and it doesn't matter.
1:19:31
As far as overall wins or anything else.
1:19:38
It felt like I was back in Old Lane again.
1:19:43
Okay, okay, I can feel that like everyone.
1:19:48
It was fucking wild. Everyone was just tuned in.
1:19:51
Everyone was going crazy over everything.
1:19:55
And then, what do I hear in the distance?
1:19:58
He get in mother fucker. Do you know what that did to us?
1:20:03
People do not understand. Especially Weaver did not
1:20:10
understand. That music hits us in a certain
1:20:16
way coming through in that moment.
1:20:20
Oh my God. What a way to reintroduce?
1:20:23
It thing is there were a lot of kids to have.
1:20:26
That didn't quite know what take it in.
1:21:27
These people are losing their minds.
1:21:33
Besides the first one, I gave two of those were in years that
1:21:39
we didn't have to be all that great.
1:21:42
It's true, very true. I'll we want we want our
1:21:46
culture. We want our environment.
1:21:50
We Want It Rock and we want it crushing and but you also.
1:21:54
You're number one, you're number one was when the culture was
1:21:59
when the environment motherfuckers were scared to
1:22:03
drive down 81 and you got into the mountains and the smokes
1:22:07
rolling off and control and you go in there.
1:22:12
I'm getting chills thinking about it because we did it at
1:22:14
Pitt and me and Brian are driving.
1:22:15
You can see it rolling and you know, they're coming from
1:22:18
Roanoke. And they start weaving and they
1:22:21
start weaving. And then it's always the wall,
1:22:25
always considered the wall to Virginia, Tech as you take the
1:22:28
exit to 460. Yep, and wall.
1:22:32
And you start going back there in the road gets a little
1:22:34
smaller and then there's just getting a little better.
1:22:37
Get a little smaller. Those years that Stadium.
1:22:44
I had a girl that went to wife that went to college me and my
1:22:47
wife. Huge Penn State fan parents went
1:22:50
to Penn State always went up there.
1:22:51
She went to Lane one time and when she came back, she said as
1:22:55
fucking louder and beat her, I'm like yeah, hit it a lot louder,
1:23:01
that's what we want Tennessee. Thing you could ever actually do
1:23:13
like the the only way they can make it worse, was if Jerry
1:23:17
Sandusky were eating. He was eating children after the
1:23:20
fact. That's the only way.
1:23:22
It could be worse and they still have a football program money
1:23:26
speaks. Yep.
1:23:27
Well fuck em. Fuck them.
1:23:30
They should not have a program. Jesus Christ, Cincinnati through
1:23:38
them underneath to laws teams. In Ohio, State play four games
1:23:43
this year, the third best team in the country.
1:23:45
How do you know? They played four games when we
1:23:48
do start, when you start them, number two, and to start the
1:23:51
year, regardless of, when they start playing, yelling sighs is
1:23:58
real. What record should save when
1:24:38
loss managers who were winning and losing to, to be honest.
1:24:44
That's a good answer that's actually similar to what I would
1:24:48
say if I had to give an answer on that because to me if we can
1:24:54
put out a competitive team that doesn't lose games that we
1:24:57
shouldn't and can still be in the coastal conversation at the
1:25:00
embassy. but,
1:25:46
They've got a defensive Foundation that they're building
1:25:49
upon and they've got an offense that is competent when they're
1:25:54
not giving the ball away. I mean, look up our schedule.
1:26:01
Probably the team up the road from us is the team.
1:26:03
You don't want us to lose to diversity Richmond, U of R will
1:26:09
be rich. This could be a downward spiral
1:26:55
that is going to be hard to recover from.
1:26:58
If we lose black diamond in the cup, in the same year,
1:27:01
especially if you couple that with another loss or two that's
1:27:03
bad. So they don't tend to see them
1:27:06
West Virginia and then Richmond. okay, so we might want to Then
1:27:13
we go into Notre Dame. Holy shit.
1:27:18
And then Virginia, why are we play Virginia?
1:28:20
That's the only way. Yeah, that's kind of where we
1:28:59
are to. We looked at the schedule, we
1:29:01
looked at the pieces that we're losing.
1:29:04
I mean, we can't lean on our running game with our first
1:29:10
round left. Tackle headed to the NFL and two
1:29:14
guys. There were supposed to be Either
1:29:17
starters or serious rotation players next year.
1:29:22
Hitting the portal like you can't lean on your running game
1:29:25
anymore. I mean, I feel like if we had
1:29:29
some consistency with the offensive line, I'd feel good
1:29:31
with Holston Blackshear, doing some other things, and some of
1:29:34
the other guys we've got coming in but we've been assured.
1:29:47
Look at the schedule. I mean, we said, do we get to
1:29:50
invite you back a year from now? And you get to talk about a new
1:29:53
head coach. No, I got, you know, even if we
1:30:01
shit the bed and go 4 and 8. They won't do it.
1:30:07
So you think we're at the point now where if it were, if it
1:30:10
wasn't this year we're riding it out.
1:30:13
We're running out for a couple of years.
1:30:15
We had so many people transfer We had.
1:30:22
Everything else happen. The excuse next year, will be We
1:30:29
had a bunch of people transfer and covid happen and we're in a
1:30:33
down here, it'll be fine next year.
1:30:36
Well, hold on, all the people will transfer in.
1:30:40
This is where I will stick up and I'll go right after
1:30:42
somebody. You need your job to keep these
1:30:46
players in the program. Coaches.
1:30:50
It is your job. It is your job to figure out
1:30:53
what motivates them to keep them in the program, not to put their
1:30:56
name in the portal. We are the second most portal
1:31:00
University. In the last three years.
1:31:05
The second most. Yes, and we have been on the
1:31:08
good side. I have a feeling we're about to
1:31:11
be on the bad side. So, you think there's I mean, I
1:31:16
mean, depression-era poverty. In 2022.
1:31:47
We had our window or window is burned out with fucked up.
1:31:54
So we have gotten to a point now where it's going to have to, as
1:31:58
we alluded to, we're going to have to burn it down to build it
1:32:01
back up. Congratulations, guys.
1:32:08
We're the little brother. We're poverty.
1:32:12
Welcome. It's not fun here, guys.
1:32:15
This is not fun. No, it's not.
1:32:18
It's not. This is not where we want to be
1:32:20
and that was when you're someone like, I'm not a negative person.
1:32:25
No, you know, especially when it comes to our Sports.
1:32:29
I don't know how we rebound from this.
1:32:32
I don't. I guess the only thing you can
1:32:35
say is pray to God miracles happen and we win games now
1:32:41
fuck. That will win games without with
1:32:44
miracles. It sucks.
1:33:35
He got hired here before should have got hired in the position,
1:33:38
a lot of shit. And we mentioned it here
1:33:40
numerous times a year. Five years, Bobby it, now
1:33:57
don't get me wrong, he's good at that he can sell recruits and
1:34:01
everything else. But he's five yourself.
1:34:05
You think you would have been better like putting the position
1:34:08
as like. Recruiting coordinator.
1:34:12
In terms of like coaching staff, recruiting coordinator a guy
1:34:16
from the the coaching staff level working with those pieces.
1:34:19
And then also that way he's more of a front-facing guy but not
1:34:22
necessarily X's and O's on the field as much outside of his
1:34:26
position. Now I think J Hamm knows
1:34:30
everything. Technically all to shit.
1:34:34
Okay, very good. The thing about a coordinator is
1:34:38
they actually know have to know how to manage everything down
1:34:42
through. There J Hamm will run a good God
1:34:47
damn defense. He's good at what he does.
1:34:50
He has a good mind for what he does.
1:34:52
He just needs time to actually know how to adjust his people to
1:34:57
get it too. And the way he envisions that is
1:35:01
the difference. Okay, got it.
1:35:04
Got it makes sense. He's going to be great one day,
1:35:07
he's going to be a superstar. Guarantee that?
1:35:14
Is he gonna be our superstar in like three years?
1:35:17
Because you're scared. See Jeremy because you live in
1:35:20
there. You're putting this reality on
1:35:24
me, that essentially. Almost until the contracts are
1:35:30
out. This is what we're stuck with
1:35:33
and it could be really bad bursted, where if you were to
1:35:38
tell me know if we start next year bov is just going to kick
1:35:44
with to the side. They're going to get food
1:35:46
decide. They're going to get a new 80
1:35:47
and higher holding you program. Be a period piece, and a lot of
1:35:56
people aren't happening. Aren't happy with that bov.
1:36:00
No, because that's the piece that essentially say what you
1:36:04
want to say that in the president's, to do control the
1:36:09
athletic department of time, and if they're sitting there and
1:36:13
especially this year again, you mentioned it already.
1:36:16
We've talked about it there, the winds work, the change was
1:36:19
coming. Somebody was going to get hired
1:36:23
when I was going to get hired and it was gonna be one of those
1:36:26
boot. I don't think may help would lie
1:36:30
to us. So you think that you think the
1:36:35
bov was completely on board? Not counting, the additional
1:36:42
revenue is in town. You have to see that, right?
1:36:47
Oh, you were smarter than me? I'm a simple.
1:36:51
Yes. And a revenue is not a big deal
1:36:54
to me. Yes, it's not a big deal, but
1:36:58
it's a big deal to all of the people are represented Resent.
1:37:02
Yeah, what you got Curtis. It's just one of those things
1:37:07
where you again, you feel like it's the truth that the fans,
1:37:11
the $25, or the people driving from Richmond, a couple times a
1:37:16
year down on the program. The kids, who are going there
1:37:20
going on in the program anymore. Well, as recalibrate and a fun
1:37:25
night here with dr. Jeremy counts.
1:37:28
That's going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner
1:37:30
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Germany. We want you to finish this off.
1:38:07
Let's go. Oh cute.