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NHL Starting in Late September · Sports Exchange

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange. My name
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  Speaker 2: is Scott Morden, off Motor City, Manmouth. It's the agenda tonight.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Hope everybody's ready for a live action-packed show. Glad to
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: have John Hopkins back in the house.
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  Speaker 3: Right, John?
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  Speaker 4: Right, John.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Glad to be back.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 2: We got Cliff Neal in the house. You ready to
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: rock in, Ro Neal?
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  Speaker 5: Of course.
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  Speaker 7: Always.
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  Speaker 3: Always.
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  Speaker 7: Every night.
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  Speaker 3: And we got Lucas Nelson.
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  Speaker 2: He'd have been proud of me after what I did
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  Speaker 2: earlier on the first show with a Dave Dorn reference.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: He loves those references. I related Dave Dorn to pneumonia.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine what he'd say.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. What'd you say this time? Lucas is
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  Speaker 3: so smart. He'd figure it out anyways.
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  Speaker 2: And we've got Jason Proctor's in the house, and Candy
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  Speaker 2: is in there, Rob Moroska at 10 o'clock. So with
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  Speaker 2: that said, we have a busy show. Let's get ready
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: to rumble. We're going to talk a little bit of football.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's going to give us some picks a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later on. But we're going to lead to our lead
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  Speaker 2: topic right now, and that's Nationals are paying $ 69 million
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  Speaker 2: to guys currently not on their roster. Let's go to
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  Speaker 2: the scoreboard. Steven Frost for $ 32, 811, 200 bucks. Max Scherzer, $ 15 million.
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  Speaker 2: Lucas Sims, $ 3 million. Jorge Lopez, $ 3 million. Colin O'Shea,
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  Speaker 2: while they get off cheap with him, $ 263, 445. Joey Gallo,
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  Speaker 2: buyout at $ 2, 500, 000. Patrick Corbin, $ 10 million.
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  Speaker 3: Nathaniel Lowe, $ 2, 330, 000. What are your thoughts, Bob? I mean, John?
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 2:04
  Speaker 5: There would not be a World Series banner in the
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  Speaker 5: nation's capital without those guys. Especially not Strasburg. He went
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  Speaker 5: the route of renegotiating his contract after the 2019 World Series.
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  Speaker 5: He'd won the series MVP. He outpitched everybody. He even
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  Speaker 5: outpitched Scherzer. The thing with that is You know, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: the deferred contracts seem to be like standard operating procedure
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  Speaker 5: in Major League Baseball. You go out to Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 5: Shohei Otani is, you know, I think they're paying him
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  Speaker 5: for 70 years. I think the Mets or somebody are
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  Speaker 5: still paying Bobby Bonilla after all this time. And if
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  Speaker 5: you want to see the next iteration of that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: which is going to come down really hard, Look at
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  Speaker 5: the San Diego Padres because they have got those contracts
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  Speaker 5: out for Manny Machado, Xander Bogarts, and a couple of
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  Speaker 5: other people, Fernando Tatis, Jackson Merrill. They're going to be
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  Speaker 5: paying those guys for another eight to ten years. And,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the way Bogarts and Machado especially have played
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  Speaker 5: this year, boy, they sure aren't playing like they're getting paid.
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  Speaker 3: Cliff?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I mean, if they can make that work. Heck,
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  Speaker 7: I'm a Mets fan, so I know all about the
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  Speaker 7: Bobby Boudinier thing.
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  Speaker 6: 2035.
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  Speaker 5: 2035, that thing.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going to turn 64 that year. Okay? I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: that's insane.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I understand.
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  Speaker 7: Rick did something like that with Rick DiPietro. They're still
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  Speaker 7: paying him throughout baseball, all over baseball. I mean, it
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  Speaker 7: makes sense for the here and now. It gives them
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  Speaker 7: some some flexibility with that salary cap and they're allowed
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  Speaker 7: to do it under the current rules and the bargaining
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  Speaker 7: agreements and how they work under their cap or the
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  Speaker 7: luxury tax and all that. So it's, it's, it's a
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  Speaker 7: good strategy. So you can kind of stay underneath. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: especially with Otani, Otani could have easily just said, no,
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  Speaker 7: I'm Shohei Otani. I'm going to get paid what I
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  Speaker 7: want to get paid. But he's like, all right, I'll
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  Speaker 7: all right. Give it to me later, which it's if
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  Speaker 7: you think about it, that's actually a great strategy for
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  Speaker 7: those guys. All right. You don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 7: when you get when you retire. You have money coming
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  Speaker 7: into your house every year. Well, into your, you know,
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  Speaker 7: till maybe until you die, if you do it the
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  Speaker 7: right way, even if you live a long life. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: people don't have to worry about going to the poor house.
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  Speaker 7: because they can't find work after that. If they're smart
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  Speaker 7: and they're investing what they do have, it just makes sense.
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  Speaker 7: And if that's the rules, why not? I'd love to
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  Speaker 7: be able to do a deal like that. That makes
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  Speaker 7: so much money. I can defer it until after I'm
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  Speaker 7: long gone. And it's just come in and you don't
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  Speaker 7: have to do anything. That's a great retirement program, if
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  Speaker 7: you ask me.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Lucas.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, well, just comparing to regular just working people,
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  Speaker 8: blue-collar people, most people take the lump sum because of
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  Speaker 8: just the economy or whatever. They divvied up into years. But,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, for baseball players, that is the way to go.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, and you want to do whatever you want
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  Speaker 8: after retirement, for sure. I mean, I think Trey Turner
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  Speaker 8: is going to be doing the same thing. Um, of course,
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  Speaker 8: Shohei is set for his next life. It sounds like, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: it's going to be, it's going to be fun to
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  Speaker 8: watch just to see how many people are also chiming in. Cause, um,
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  Speaker 8: I can't remember who, um, started it before, uh, Bobby Bonilla,
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  Speaker 8: but I mean, he was kind of the pioneer in
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  Speaker 8: this and he's setting the stone of, uh, yep, this
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  Speaker 8: is the way to do it. And let's, uh, continue
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  Speaker 8: that trend.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody so far, I'll go to Jason and Candy in
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  Speaker 2: a moment. Deferred contracts are definitely what could get MLB
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  Speaker 2: in trouble anyways. But you have the deferred contracts, everybody
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  Speaker 2: postponing the money, getting it later on. Not a bad
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  Speaker 2: safety net later on. And obviously, Kyle Tucker is the
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  Speaker 2: biggest one who's benefiting by it.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jason.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. You know what? That's a good point.
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  Speaker 9: You know, the Nats have $ 69 million not on the roster,
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  Speaker 9: but only $ 24 million of their current 2026 roster salary
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  Speaker 9: is on the current team. So, after this year, Strasburg's
• 7:02
  Speaker 9: contract that he signed after that World Series in 2019,
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  Speaker 9: he signed.
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  Speaker 4: At $ 70 or $ 245 million. That's coming off the book.
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  Speaker 9: So.
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  Speaker 9: There's a little bit more leeway there. I wish teams
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  Speaker 9: would do this, but the thing is, they've got three
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  Speaker 9: guys that I would consider the core players. TJ Abrams,
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  Speaker 9: Aylin Lyle, and James Wood. They're in their lineup. Are
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  Speaker 9: they going to do the same thing they did? They're
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  Speaker 9: going to overpay these guys two to eight or nine years?
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  Speaker 4: We'll see. Hopefully they don't, and they use this money.
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  Speaker 9: Hopefully they can re-sign these guys and add a deal. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 9: you're going to have guys like.
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  Speaker 9: Bobby Vanille, you know, Bobby Vanille, and, you know, the
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  Speaker 9: players are going to carry it.
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  Speaker 4: All right, we got our contract for a lifetime. Two,
• 8:00
  Speaker 4: three million dollars.
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  Speaker 9: And I think kind of the Washington and the Nance
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  Speaker 9: kind of regret it because.
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  Speaker 4: Now, you know, Strike him.
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  Speaker 6: Hopefully we don't have him on, but I was looking
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  Speaker 6: more and more that way. See how they can restructure
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  Speaker 6: because they can get back on top a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: They can get some more pitching and around the hitting
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  Speaker 6: because they got people who could steal bases, Nunez, other players.
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  Speaker 6: So if they can kind of restructure and either bring
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  Speaker 6: some players in and then resign guys like Wood because.
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  Speaker 9: Otherwise, if they don't resign some of these guys, they're
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  Speaker 9: going to be kind of like the Vegas A's. All
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  Speaker 9: these guys, and they take off, and then, you know,
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  Speaker 9: they're still paying people, and they can never, it's like,
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  Speaker 9: it's the bad thing, and they just never, and then.
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  Speaker 4: They're, that's a good subject to address.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Candy, take over.
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  Speaker 10: So here's my two cents. This is the reason why
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  Speaker 10: we're going to have a lockout next year because the
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  Speaker 10: players obviously want some of this deferred to go way
• 9:21
  Speaker 10: into it. The one that surprised me when I was
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  Speaker 10: looking this up, Scott, your Tigers are going to be
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  Speaker 10: paying Justin Verlander until he's age 56. Mookie Betts is
• 9:32
  Speaker 10: only until he's 49. I'm sorry, Mookie Betts is until
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  Speaker 10: he's 52. Shohei is only until he's 49. Hey, for
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  Speaker 10: the players, it's great. You get some real good income
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  Speaker 10: coming off years that you're not playing the game anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 10: But for the, should I say, smaller market teams, the
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  Speaker 10: teams that aren't spending the money... they're the ones that,
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  Speaker 10: you know, their players aren't getting those long-term contracts like that.
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  Speaker 10: This will be part of the bargaining this offseason starting
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  Speaker 10: in December. I don't think there's going to be baseball
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  Speaker 10: at least to start next year. And part of it
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  Speaker 10: is this for this particular reason, the NFL doesn't have this.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 10: So I think they'll come more in line. At least
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  Speaker 10: they're going to try. I don't know how successful it's
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  Speaker 10: going to be, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me go back to what John said earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Nationals got a World Series title out of it. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess in that situation, they'll take the banner all
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  Speaker 2: day long to be able to know they paid these
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: guys out. There was a payoff, and obviously they They
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: were on the positive end of this whole thing for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: That they were. And, you know, you have to remember,
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  Speaker 5: you know, what happened the year, you know, prior to
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  Speaker 5: the Nats winning the World Series. They lost their marquee player,
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: Bryce Harper, for whatever reason. He wasn't going to take
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  Speaker 5: deferred money. And that's what Mike Rizzo and the learners
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  Speaker 5: were trying to get him to do. except so why?
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  Speaker 5: So they can bring in more talent, you know, so
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  Speaker 5: they can bring in people like Max Scherzer. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they'd had Jonathan Papelbon, who the only thing he ever
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: did was fight Bryce Harper in the dugout. But, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they had tried that, you know, they tried to keep
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: Juan Soto. They offered him what would have been the
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: highest salary in major league baseball. And he turned it down,
• 11:39
  Speaker 5: you know, granted, did he get a lot more with
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: the Mets? But, you When the Padres couldn't sign him,
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: they didn't hang on to him very long either. You
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: just wonder about that. The other thing that hurt the
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  Speaker 5: Nationals was they didn't get an insurance policy on Strasburg.
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  Speaker 5: They had no idea that his arm was going to
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: go south like it did.
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  Speaker 3: They got a World Series out of him. I hate
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  Speaker 3: to say it in that context, but they did.
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  Speaker 2: They got a number one pick out of him in
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Number one picks are supposed to lead you to that outcome,
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of worked out. All right, well, let's
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: talk about it. And aside from Apple, Apple obviously reportedly
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: dropped its MLB package. NBC aired Sunday Night Baseball, and
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: ESPN was able to buy MLB TV, and Netflix was
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: able to have Home Run Derby. Now, let's face it,
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: Home Run Derby did not work out so good on Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts, John, in terms of the
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: way that pretty much came down, the way that transaction did?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I worry, you know, because I remember, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you've got I forget how many clubs that it was
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  Speaker 5: that were part of a streaming package. I know the
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: Padres were part of it. The Diamondbacks, the streaming partner,
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  Speaker 5: their network partner fell apart. You know, they were expecting
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: 40 or 60 million dollars a year in revenue from television. And. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: and I think Major League Baseball has got to do
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  Speaker 5: something where they consolidate that because you've got teams like
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: the Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers that have more television
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  Speaker 5: money than the other 28 teams combined. And there's got
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: to figure out a way to get that. That's one
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  Speaker 5: of the one things that the Nationals had a problem
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  Speaker 5: with because when they moved, when the Expos moved to D.C.,
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: guess who got their TV rights? The Orioles. They finally
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  Speaker 5: got out of that this year, and that might make
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  Speaker 5: the team a little bit more competitive, at least from
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  Speaker 5: a television standpoint. But if they can figure out– baseball's
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  Speaker 5: got to figure this out as a whole, not just
• 13:52
  Speaker 5: individual teams, but they've got to figure this out. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I miss the old game of the week with Joe
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  Speaker 5: Garagiola and Kurt Gowdy and, you know, Jack Buck when
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: he used to do– you know, I mean, that was
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  Speaker 5: the voice of God, Jack Buck.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wasn't he?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually met Jack Buck many years ago, John,
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  Speaker 2: in Pompano Beach during the spring training game at the
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  Speaker 2: old Pompano Beach Municipal Stadium. And he took the window out,
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  Speaker 2: and he got nailed by a foul ball right on
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  Speaker 2: his arm. And he came out and said to me,
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, that's a pretty low press box, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay. And I shook his hand, and this guy
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  Speaker 2: had the most unbelievable sense of humor. And I got
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: to know Joe Buck. over the years as well but
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: jack buck is just unbelievable and he was a treasure
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  Speaker 2: for sure and so thanks for mentioning his name so
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  Speaker 2: i could get that story out there thank you much
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  Speaker 2: appreciated okay cliff go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: This is the way this is the world we live
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  Speaker 7: in now unfortunately with all its different streaming services and
• 14:53
  Speaker 7: television and television was the only game in town television
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  Speaker 7: radio and then they had their cable deals and now
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  Speaker 7: we got streaming and Just before streaming, the Mets came
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  Speaker 7: up with SNY. The Yankees had the, yeah, the, the
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: yes network. Um, I'm not sure what the Dodgers have,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm sure it's Dodger town or whatever they call
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  Speaker 7: it over there. Cause I'm not in that area. Uh,
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  Speaker 7: but I mean, it's, that's just the way it's going now.
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  Speaker 7: I it's, it's really tragic, um, because it's not going
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: to be able, you can't watch all the games. You know, I, I, I,
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: I'm in a remote thing with, uh, with living in Pennsylvania,
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: and I'm originally from New York, so I get ESPN
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: Plus so I can catch hockey games, podcast the Islanders.
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: But it's not too bad, but this is the world
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  Speaker 7: we're living in now, and the big mega companies are
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: gonna find a way to grab these brands, work with them,
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  Speaker 7: and make it part of their, in some way, connection
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  Speaker 7: as part of their empire, it even loosely, um, because
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  Speaker 7: it's all about money. It comes down to money and
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  Speaker 7: who's got what. And it, that's the sad part is,
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  Speaker 7: is that nobody really, they're, they're pricing out the real
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  Speaker 7: fans with that, with all these streaming things. Oh, they
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: were one way. One day they're on Netflix. Now they're,
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: they're on peacock somehow. And Oh, well, wait, they're, they're
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: actually airing a game on television. I can catch it. Yay.
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  Speaker 7: But it's, it's like, you have to keep track of
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  Speaker 7: where they're going and, It's becoming very difficult to be
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  Speaker 7: a fan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you mentioned Peacock and all the different places,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: how do you find these people? Okay, go ahead, Jason.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what? I think it was right around 2024.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the Tigers.
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  Speaker 9: They had in the middle of May or right around June,
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  Speaker 9: just all of a sudden, that's it. No more cable,
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  Speaker 9: no more streaming service.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think?
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: You disappear like David Copperfield when you're talking about what
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. And when he comes back, you can
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: go ahead and continue his thought. We'll turn it over
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to Lucas. How do you like that for a smooth analogy, Lucas?
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  Speaker 3: That was creative. That was a first.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, it's inevitable. I mean, these streaming
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  Speaker 8: services have taken over and Netflix is doing its thing. Peacock,
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  Speaker 8: which I didn't think would ever take over like this,
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  Speaker 8: but it's doing its thing. Apple TV, the interface on
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: there is cool, but it's just weird.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, right now, the major networks that you have.
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  Speaker 8: Are ballet sports, NBC sports, and everyone else is kind
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  Speaker 8: of divvied up into individual little sections like Denver has Altitude,
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  Speaker 8: Seattle has Roots.
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  Speaker 3: I think L.A. has.
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  Speaker 4: Did I lose you guys? Sorry about that, guys.
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  Speaker 9: No, I was just going to say that, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the fan to the Sports Network, we lost them.
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  Speaker 4: And we had a little technical difficulty. We're back, Scott.
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  Speaker 4: Can you hear me?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can hear you. You're fine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just saying, guys, you know, we had that.
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  Speaker 9: We had no network, so we had to go to
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: 97-1 the ticket. And everyone's calling in there. They're like,
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: what do we do? We have to get the newest
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: streaming service. Well, guess what?
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  Speaker 4: There ain't none. So what do you do during the season? Nothing.
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  Speaker 9: So we got to sit here and either catch a
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: national game, if there is one, it's just crazy. And
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: then you're just going to keep on their services at
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: their services. And like, like Cliff was saying, it's just
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: the way the world we live in right now, where,
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: you know, we're just, they're just going to keep forcing
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: the regular fans to buy apps, buy streaming services. Uh,
• 19:01
  Speaker 9: we've seen it with the NFL too. So, um, It's
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: just really just, you know, kind of your preference. You know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: what do you want to do? Where do you want
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: to look? So I just start to forget that, guys,
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: being in the local area, and they just shut it down.
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: And that just– it just sucked because, you know, what
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: do you do with Spanish? You know, you have people
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: calling in a radio station like, hey, now what other
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: app are they going to charge us next?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Right, that's true.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: But like you said, it's just the way the world
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: we live in and just, you know, what do you do?
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: If you want to watch sports, you probably just go
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: with the next cheapest one or whatnot. So, yeah, it's
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: crazy how these apps are just kind of forcing you
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: to go in that direction.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, Lucas, you want to continue what you were saying?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Then we'll turn it over to Gandy.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and it seems that NBC Sports is losing their
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: production value. I see a lot more mistakes happening on air.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: I typically wouldn't normally see. So even though they're losing
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: revenue and it's causing them to have these video mistakes,
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: like for example, just video tweaks or glitches that happen,
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: or a wrong graphic pops up, it's just constantly popping up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: I'm like, this, and it just comes out of the blue.
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, I guess that's what they're having to
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: deal with. And you see all these other like, braze
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: vision and, like, altitude like I was talking about. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: it's just really clean, really, really just efficient and just simple, sharp,
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: and they get it. And I guess they have the
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: tools necessary to make the program bigger and better. It's
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: inevitable that all these switches are being made because... Yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, like, for example, Braves vision, my roommate always
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: puts it on, and evidently you have to have a
• 21:10
  Speaker 8: subscription for it. I don't watch Braves baseball at all,
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: but I'm like, I don't want to have a subscription
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: just to watch one specific channel. Holy cow, that's ridiculous.
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: Come on, let's figure something out.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, Candy.
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: MLB's annual dinger demonstrations. debuted on Netflix drew just 5.3
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: million viewers, making it the lowest total since 2003. Part
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: of it not only is do people have Netflix, but
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: it depends on what kind of a fan you are.
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: Are you a fan of the game or are you
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: just a fan of, hey, it's an event I want
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: to watch? Because here's one of the differences. The event
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: also drew criticism from viewers for its presentation. Because do
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: you know who called the Home Run Derby on Netflix?
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: Actors Luke Wilson, Will Ferrell, and Jimmy Tatro served as commentators.
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: Those are not baseball guys. If you're a baseball fan,
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: you want to hear baseball people commenting and doing it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: That was a miss for Netflix. Yes, it drew in
• 22:34
  Speaker 10: some of the younger viewers, but it lost a lot
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: of the older demographic because who's going to watch actors
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: commenting on it?
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Well, it's one thing that you don't have the audience.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: If you don't have the marquee voices being able to
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: go out there, then you're in that double jeopardy.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Candy. I didn't want to interrupt you.
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: It takes away from the draw.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: You know, there's something to be said about, you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: the people that have played the game calling either the
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: game or the Home Run Derby or bringing their insights
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: in it because an actor can't bring insights into, you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: the nuances of hitting a home run and the difference
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: of the park. And it'll be interesting. Next year's All-Star
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: Game and Home Run Derby will be at Wrigley Field
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: in Chicago.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Can I just pick up one more thing on this? Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: Where I live, I have cable, I have streaming services
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: and all that. And where I live, we get Philly,
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: we get Baltimore area, some DC stuff and Pittsburgh stuff.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: But I still, I get the ESPN plus to get
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: the hockey pro thing.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: Because I'm close within that, I don't get monument sports.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: But because I'm in that area, I still get blacked out.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: So if I want to watch the Islanders play the Caps,
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: I can't because I'm blocked out. But I don't get
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: that channel anyway. And it's doubly a problem because the
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Hershey Bears are my thing, and they're the NHL affiliate.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: I'm like, what?
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: It just doesn't make any sense. So anytime I want
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: to watch the Caps and the Caps against the Islanders,
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: I'm out of luck. You know, it's– And that's another thing,
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: the whole blackouts stuff still applies. And I know why
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: they do it, but there's like gaps in there and
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: they got to think about that part of it too.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well said.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Again, you can't botch the home run derby with an
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: announcer not qualified to do it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You just can't do it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And I can imagine there'll be other changes as they
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: work through this deal, which leads me to my next topic.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: ESPN is scheduled to get.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: MLB TV out of market games for full rights for
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: five MLB team.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Again, those teams obviously included the guardians of twins, the Padres,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: the Rockies and a diamond backs. So there you have
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: it again, you're talking all part of this domino effect
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: with the Sunday night deal. So John, what are your
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: thoughts about the way all of this has played out?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I know those teams all had to do something
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: because I think they were all part of Valley sports
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: at one time, right?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Right. Right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: They went, they went under, uh, you know, I know that,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: you know, I've got a lot of family in San
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Diego and they complained that, you know, all of a
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: sudden they can't watch the Padres anymore. Uh, you know,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: they get stuck with the Dodgers. And if you've ever
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: been in Southern California, Padres fans and Dodger fans don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: mix well together. You know, they just don't. And, uh,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: you know, San Diego has, especially after those bastards in
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: LA took the chargers, um, there's not a lot of
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: love between those two communities.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: You would think you have that. You need to have
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: something in there. And, you know, I don't understand. I
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: think sometimes some of the owners don't understand the media
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: world right now. It's changed. It's changing every day. And
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: it's going to be, I think upon major league baseball
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: as a whole, to put some order and direction out
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: for the other teams to follow. Not everybody's the Dodgers,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: not everybody's the Mets or the Yankees.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Cliff.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: It's, it's not surprising. Someone was going to, I mean,
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: Bally's went away. Someone's going to swoop in there. And
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: of course it's going to be the ones with the
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: big pockets.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: They're going to be the big pockets. They're going to
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: pick that up. That adds to their brand. So I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: not surprised. I'm not happy about it. But that's the
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: way the business has gone. It's really a shame because
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: I just said it before, fans are being forgotten. And
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: as Lucas was saying before, I think a lot of
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: those production problems are because there's less people doing the production.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: I know you know that firsthand. It's happening all throughout television,
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: all throughout media, cutting people, AI, everything. automated why because
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: it's their bottom line it's profit all right and you
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: like more and heck if you can find an automatic
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: way to do it you're gonna do it with ai
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: art it's the world's gonna be very very different in
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: the next five years very very different i've already had
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: to change a lot um and i'm always changing things
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: um but uh it's it's it's insane it's really insane
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: and it It's going to blow up in their face.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: It's going to blow up in their face eventually. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: they're not going to really care about it until it
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: hits their bottom line. Their profits start going down. And
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: that's the only time it's going to say, oh, wait,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: maybe we need to scale back or do something a
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: little different. But yeah, until the money stops coming in
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: like it's coming in, they're just going to keep trotting forward.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, MDE, thanks a lot for being on tonight.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: We appreciate your loyalty throughout all of our shows. Great stuff. Okay, Jason,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you're working through your technical stuff, I hope.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good now, I think.
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I was going to say ESPN, they'd signed that
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: $ 550 million deal to have 30 out-of-market games per year.
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: So we'll see kind of how that goes there. And,
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: you know, it's funny, too, because, you know, NBC, they
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: brought back the NBA draft. NBA, NBC, now they're bringing
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: back the baseball from the 90s. You know, Bob Thomas,
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: you know, he did, I remember, I.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Remember Indy, I.
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: Think it was the Guardians of the Indians at the time,
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: Marlins series. He did a World Series with a Marlins one,
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: also on NBC.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: So we'll see.
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: You know, like I said, lupus and you guys are
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: right in general it's it's all about the money uh
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: right now unfortunately and if it's not going to hit
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: their bottom line it will eventually and uh you know
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: we'll see you know What happens in the years coming forward,
• 29:24
  Speaker 11: we're not going to know until we actually get a
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: CBA anyway, I would think, for baseball. So I like
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: what NBC is doing with the baseball and the basketball.
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: It's more media rights for there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: But like I said, it's all about, you know, just
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: put the words in the mouth of the sports.
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: That's what they're doing.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: I can go back to Scott from sports.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: So.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: You know, going forward, we'll kind of hold us up.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Lucas.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it's inevitable. I mean, AI is going
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: to take over, and then they're going to see their
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: profits just dwindle down, and people have enough common sense
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: to see, okay, this is AI, and this looks glitchy
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: as all can be. And it's taken out the authentic
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: look in the MLB and everything else. It's just, yeah,
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: I'm really, really skeptical about what broadcasts are going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: look like with this AI programming coming into play.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: It's, yeah. Katie?
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: AI is going to change a lot of things. I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: even in my industry, it's going to change a lot
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: of things. You know, the world we live in will
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: look very different, like Cliff said, in the next five,
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: ten years. I'm glad I'm near the end of my
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: career instead of the beginning of my career because I
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: don't know what it will look like and what kind
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: of jobs. Do I have the technical... where for all
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: to know how to deal with.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: That.
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: But so we'll see. I mean, life as we know
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: it is not the same. Obviously we've seen cable isn't
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: what it was. Streaming is what, you know, going on.
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: It's just so many different things. It'd be interesting to
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: see what life is like 10 years, five years down
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: the road.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing about this industry is, Year
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: in and year out, no matter how much TV contracts
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and streaming get modified, is this. It's going to change
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: every single year.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: It really, really will.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And the bottom line is you don't know what deals
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: are going to be as streaming comes into play.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: We have Jason Prock.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Jason, just so you know, as we continue the flow,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to let you go ahead and talk about
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the Monroe. I think you're going to need to try
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to get the Internet worked out. We'll bring you on
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: two more topics and see if you can get that
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: worked out. No disrespect intended. We have to keep the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: flow and the momentum of it going.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: We have a topic that's designed for you. Of course,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: now we've gone. So hopefully we'll see what's what. But anyways,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: let's talk about the longest championship droughts of all time
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: in the MLB. Dating back to last year, Cleveland was
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: at 77 years in 1948. The Brewers never won one.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: They'll have a chance again this year to try. San
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Diego Padres never won one. Seattle, obviously, haven't won one.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: So you got Seattle.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee, San Diego, and Seattle have never won one. The Pirates, obviously,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: 46 years since 79. Baltimore, 42 years. The Tigers, 41,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: and the Mets, 39. Of all these routes that you have, John,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: that we're looking at, which one do you think gets
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: snapped first?
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: The Brewers look awfully, awfully tough this year. The Padres,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: they need to do something this year because that team,
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: is old. They are about to fall apart. And, uh,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: you know, I, I don't think that Machado or Bogarts,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: the two big moneymakers have a lot of gas left
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: in the tank. Uh, you know, I, I, you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: they're going to be like, uh, this Washington Senate or
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: nationals of 2020, 21, 21, 22 real quick here. Uh,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I can't believe they got sold for $ 3. 9 billion. Uh,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Somebody must think that they're a good deal, but, you know,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: who knows?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, Cliff.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: From a standpoint, I'd love to see– Cleveland's not going
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: to win. They had their shot against the Cubs way
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: back then. I guess I'm going to root for Milwaukee.
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: They do. They are really good. I've always liked the
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: Milwaukee Brewers. It is around time. I really hope they
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: can win. My team's out of it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Go Brewers.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: Just go Brewers. They've never won. I've always loved certain
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: parts of their uniforms. I never like those Metro things
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: that they have. I like that Wisco jersey that they have.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: I really like that. So, Let's go Brewers, okay? Let's
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: go Brewers. Do it for Paul Mulder. Do it for
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Robin Yount. Come on. Do it for Bob Uecker. Make
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: sure he's in the front row.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's probably getting that passion because I don't
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: know if I have a topic that's going to light
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: him up tonight, but we'll see what happens. We still
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: have a half the show. All right, Jason, you got
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: this one, one more topic, Detroit, and then we'll go
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: ahead and proceed toward next week as I get more
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Detroit topics to turn in, okay? unless you can hang
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: in there a little longer, that's up to you, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: you had droughts, which one do you think is likely
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to end this year?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Oh man. I, I liked what Cliff was saying about
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: the brewers.
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: You know, we got, uh, the Gorman Thomas and we got, uh,
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: we got the 82 team. I, I just remember there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: I don't remember the team, but I just, I just
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: like how you had, uh, Pete Bukovic, um, We'll see.
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: The way the AL and the NL wildcards are right now,
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: it's crazy.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: Especially in the AL.
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: I would say in the AL, man, the Red Sox,
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: I would think that they have a great chance.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: In the NL, I'm going to Brewers. I hope they
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: can get there. They haven't won it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: They haven't won it, but they're They're really close, so.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: We shall see.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, Lucas. Come on, Brewers.
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: Please don't choke in the playoffs. Please, please, please, please
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: take down the Dodgers. Please need every bit of that
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: to happen. Need the Brewers to win. I know my
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: Giants are far from making it happen, so it's just like, okay,
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: come on, let's go. But, I mean, I thought Seattle
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: was going to make it last year. And they had
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: hopes with Cal Raleigh. I mean, they still got an
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: amazing bullpen. Is it Grady Emerson from LSU? I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: I'm getting that name wrong. But, I mean, they still
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: got Logan Gilbert. They got Munoz. No.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Is it Munoz?
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Munoz in the bullpen. Like, I just wish Seattle
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: could make it happen.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: But.
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: Padres, jeez, that was a team that was going to
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: make it happen, but, I mean, they're trying to, signing
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: Casey Mize and Robbie Ray. Okay, you guys are trying
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: to make something happen, but these deals are really not
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: going to do anything in my mind. I mean, to
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: be honest, they're not really working out. But who else
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: we got?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: We got.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Seattle, we got... Oh, Guardians, Cleveland.
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, saw a glimpse of that in the World Series,
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: thought that was going to happen. That was, what, a
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: couple of outs from actually happening with Rajay Davis.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: And then... What?
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: Who else hasn't won a World Series that I'm thinking
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: of off the top of my head?
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: I think we named them all.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I agree 100%.
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: Let's bring on the brewers. They got the team to
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: make it happen. Do it for Bob.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Do it for Euchre.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Just a bit outside.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: All right, Kate, you have a lot of friends on
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: this show. Then again, you have a lot of friends everywhere,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: but that's beside the point.
• 38:38
  Speaker 10: I love hearing everybody talking about my beloved brewers. Yes,
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: they need to do it. You know who they need
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: to do it for? They need to do it for
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: their manager. Pat Murphy. I mean, you know, they all
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: talk about how he is so down to earth, how
• 39:00
  Speaker 10: he's such a good manager, how everybody loves and enjoys
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: playing for him. You know, and he's not the youngest
• 39:08
  Speaker 10: guy in the tool shed. I mean, let's face it.
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: But let's do it for him. Let's do it for
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: the city.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: Let's do it for Euchre, of course. But I hope
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: that they don't choke. Part of it is going to
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: be who's helping. going into it too, you know, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: who's rested some of their players. Cause that was, and honestly,
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: if the brewers don't do it this year, knowing that
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: there might not be a next year and then knowing
• 39:46
  Speaker 10: what kind of restrictions or what, who knows what kind of,
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: it'll be interesting to see going forward what happens to baseball,
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: but I really, you know, and I, I'd love them
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: to do it for my mom and my dad too,
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: because they would have loved to see it. All right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Conventional wisdom would tell you, and I'm talking conventional wisdom,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: the Brewers should win it. And at some point or another,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: they have to figure it out in the post season.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: They really, really do. Hocking on the door a long time,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: great championship teams run into hurdles.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: For many years, with the pistons they ran into the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: celtics and a lot of great teams have to go
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: through other ones to get there well for milwaukee that's
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the la dodgers outspending them and they have it they
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: could buy anybody that they want so yeah this is
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: their windows closing yeah you have murphy you have the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: euchre stories but milwaukee's now i think is one of
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: what four straight divisional titles is that as i understand
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: it their window is there again the new collective bargaining
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: agreement is is hanging around the corner and MLB will
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: lock out. So the Brewers have to get it done
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: this year. They really do. We don't know what baseball
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is going to look like. Well, we do know the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Miami Marlins will win one when I turn about 233
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: years old, but that's the only different situation. And I'm 63,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: so I'm talking about any conventional spending. We're not talking
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: about when you can buy them back when they had money.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Now they don't have any. Okay, I'm not going to know.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: They're on the verge of missing the playoffs yet again.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Four winning seasons, five winning seasons, only four playoff appearances
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in 34 or five years. That's not a knock. That's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: called a fact. That means journalism. So, yeah, I mean, Seattle,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: San Diego, obviously, spent a lot of money. Seattle, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: don't think they're getting in. I think the rumors are
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: managers in trouble. Far cry what a difference a year makes.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: But Milwaukee, they need to get it done, and they
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: need to get it done soon. It isn't all these
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: little speeches that you have. Let's win one for coach.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Let's win one for that. Let's win one for that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: You need to win it now, period. Man, the Milwaukee
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Bucks won one recently, and we all know the Green
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers don't have championship drought.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: All they do is win, okay? And that'll be that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: All right, well, I have another interesting topic out of
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Detroit that I want to get to, and that's once
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: upon a time, and that was about a year ago,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: that the Detroit Tigers went out there, and removed Cameron
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Maven and Craig Monroe from their broadcast team due to
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a misconduct. Kane, do you have any updates on these guys?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I think Craig Monroe has not recovered. I think he
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: had sexual problems and those things. I don't know what
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: has happened with Cameron Maven. Do you have any updates?
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts about these two guys here? John,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: obviously Cameron Maven and Craig Monroe were decent, serviceable players.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: That they were. I remember somewhere in one of my closets,
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I have one of the Padres giveaway jerseys for Cameron
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: Maben someplace. You know, he didn't stay long with the Padres.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: I always wondered where he wound up. The other fellow,
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: you know, I never heard about the suspension of these guys. So,
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't know. You know, my interest with
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: the Tigers begins and ends with Verlander. Because why? He's
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: an ODU grad.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, that makes sense. Okay, I get that now.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something about Casey Mize. The
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Padres did the Tigers a favor taking him off their hand.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: He hasn't done a whole lot for them there. And
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I can understand there aren't many players that come out
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: of Old Dominion University, but Gerlander was a darn good one. Candy,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: any more information on that that you've come up with yet?
• 43:33
  Speaker 10: They're still under investigation for at least Craig Monroe is
• 43:39
  Speaker 10: At this point, let me try and do Mabin.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: Mabin lives in Asheville, and his kid just signed on
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: to play at Texas. So he's kind of staying low.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: I saw him this spring at his son's game, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: he's just staying with his kid. He's not doing really anything.
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's nice to talk to in person. He's
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: a great guy, but I guess he's not– as far
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: as when it comes to the public eye and broadcasting
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: and in sports, because obviously he's got this. When I
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: was playing baseball, I tried to.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Mimic Monroe's swing.
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: But I had no idea about Monroe in general. Wow.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I actually interviewed Cameron Maven many years ago before
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: he was traded to the Marlins and the Miguel Cabrera trade.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: He's a nice kid, and at that time he was
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: a big prospect for them, and they had to give
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: up a heck of a prospect to Miami to go
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: out there and lure a guy like, Miguel Carrera. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to throw in there was Dontrell Willis because the Marlins
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: wanted to get rid of that salary. You have to
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: take him if you're going to get Miggy. Tigers said,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: we'll do it. Of course, well, no, the Marlins don't
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: have any money anyway. Throw him and we'll give you Miggy.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: That was one of the biggest heists I've ever seen
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: with Dave Dombrowski, a fleece job, if I ever saw one. So, yeah,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Maverick's a good kid. I don't know how he got
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: caught up in all that, but he's hung around the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: game a long time. Monroe was too bad. I got
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: to know him pretty well. and all of a sudden
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: he ran into these issues. You haven't heard any more
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: about him. And I used to see him at the
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Marlins games, and we used to talk a lot. So
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Craig's a nice guy, but, you know, because you talk
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to a guy, it doesn't mean you know what's going
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Lucas, anything you want to add before I
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: turn it over to Jason?
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they just get out of the public eye and
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: just stick to the people that they know are good
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: for their circles.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: That's the thing, that they just stick.
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: I don't know. They just want to be normal citizens
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: and just stay out of the eye and just leave
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: that stuff that happened in the past and kind of
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: live in the future moment right now. And like, for example,
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: for Cameron Maben, he's living for his kid. He is
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: doing everything he can to get his kid to be
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: at the next level. And yeah, he's playing for SEC
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: baseball team right now. So he's, he's putting every single
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: inch of effort into him. And I, I don't blame
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: him at all. Like that's, that's another, that's a great
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: detour to try to, um, um, detour in your life
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: to try to make things happen.
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Some thoughts, Jason.
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: I was just going to say, um, you know, he
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: ended up getting camera. Maven was, uh, actually a really
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: good service of football player. Um, he actually played another
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: stint with us and in Detroit, uh, Um, I believe
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: in 2016 or 17, I, I'm not real sure on
• 46:32
  Speaker 9: a year at the moment, but, uh, he could steal
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: some bases. Now this is, you know, uh, a situation
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: where I guess, uh, according to the athletic, he had
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: some unwanted text messages to female employees.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: You know what, here's the thing. You're seeing this a
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: lot more.
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: And, um, and again, this game college to, um, We even,
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: the gentleman that was coaching.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Arkansas, Bobby Petrino, we've seen this before. And it's sad.
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: It's just a professionalism that everyone should carry in those roles.
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: Craig Monroe with the minor, you know, big time. He's
• 47:17
  Speaker 9: a local guy here in Detroit that was just, you know, a.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Good guy. But like you said, you just don't know him.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: what happens behind the scenes.
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: Um, yeah, Nate Robertson was in that trade for Cameron
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: Maben to the Marlins for Miguel Cabrera. But, um, yeah,
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: it's just unfortunate with these two guys. Um, and like
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: Lucas said, you, you know, him around that and the
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: North Carolina area. And, um, so, uh, definitely good players. Um,
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: you know, will they get a job again? It just
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: remains to be seen. You know, we'll see.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Hey, Candy, what do you got?
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: Basically, it doesn't really update them. So I don't think
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: either one of them are working in the field at
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: this point. I think they were saying that some of
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: the comments were late night texts to some females. Some
• 48:15
  Speaker 10: of them were inappropriate talking about females. You know, we
• 48:22
  Speaker 10: are seeing more and more of this. It's unfortunate. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: I guess, you know, I have a different perspective, obviously,
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: because I'm the only female on this panel. But it
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: doesn't matter. You shouldn't, you know, downgrade, talk about other
• 48:43
  Speaker 10: people in a negative manner to anybody. And as far
• 48:50
  Speaker 10: as late night text... You've got to really know who
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: you're texting. It could be that someone had an argument.
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: They were fine when the late night texts were coming
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: through and all of a sudden you have an argument
• 49:05
  Speaker 10: and now all of a sudden I'm going to claim
• 49:07
  Speaker 10: that you shouldn't be texting me late either. There's always
• 49:12
  Speaker 10: two sides to every story. I'm just going to leave
• 49:15
  Speaker 10: it like that and we don't know both sides and
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: there aren't really updates. So then you also wonder how
• 49:22
  Speaker 10: much is true and how much isn't.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: And how much is playing on the court.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: So one thing, the person that had more to lose
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: in this with Craig Monroe, largely because of the fact
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: that he was in the announcing, Cameron maybe could get
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a buy because he probably made a lot more money anyways.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And he was doing some announcing and, around there. But
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: either way, it was a lose-lose situation. And it's too
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: bad because I got to know both of them. But again,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: what you see and what you do, like Candy said,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: late-night texts are all well and good until it goes backwards,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: and then you have a lot of problems.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: So it's too bad for both guys. But that's what happened.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Baseball's a small world, and you can't do certain things
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: that are unethical, let alone in this day and age
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: when you have more advanced technology, such as social media, texting,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. because this stuff gets blown away, and all
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: of a sudden you're off the air just like that.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: One little blurb about racism or LGBT, and you'll never
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: be seen again.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: And we've seen that time and time again.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: In this case, it was one of those situations where
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: they were doing things unethically, and as a result, they
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: pretty much have gone into oblivion.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I went back to this.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I wondered about it, because the only reason why it's
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: on this show is I got to know both of them,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: and I wanted to see if there was anything that
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: had changed.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, you doing all right, Jason? All right, you're all set?
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Pretty good?
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: Well, good.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little hockey, because obviously training camps are
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: underway around the country, and that is this. Okay, we've
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: got the 2026-27 NHL regular season will be 84 games
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: to begin in late September.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Some thoughts, John?
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: It can't happen soon enough.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: My baseball season is pretty much over with the Nationals.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: You know, football... you know, other than the college game,
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: you know, no long, you know, every place I've ever lived,
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: the team left. So what's there to cheer for? But,
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: you know, the hockey, I am so looking forward to
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: this cap season coming up, you know, with the acquisitions
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: they've made. It can't, I wish it would start in
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: September of this year. And I'm already, I am making
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: the drive up to DC for opening night. So I'll
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: be there.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, Cliff, some thoughts about the late September start in
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: the 84 game.
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: Game on. It's basically they added the two extra games.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: They cut a couple of the preseason games, kind of
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: like what the NFL did. It's only like a week.
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: It's a week earlier than normal, which had to be
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: if they're going to do it because they can't get
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: any later with the way how late the playoffs go.
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: They're going to hit July before you know it. If
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: they keep going any deeper, it can't be happening. Stanley
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: Cup Finals in July. It gets pretty deep into June
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: as it is. They're expanding the game. They want more profits.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: That's two more games. One home, one away. Makes sense.
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: I'm all for it. I get to watch more hockey.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: I'm an Islanders fan. They're going to be terrible this year.
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: They've made terrible moves. They're my favorite. fellow fans are
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: delusional and they think they're going to make the playoffs.
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: I'm like, they can have a top 10 pick, but
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: I still love hockey. I love hockey.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: And I, I have all those jerseys and I've been
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: forced to, to, to appreciate the game because it's been
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: so bad for my team for so many years, um,
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: over the years. And, um, even though it was better recently,
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: but I, I'm, I'm all for it more and more games. Um, man,
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: they can trade, tweak up some rules, not put stupid
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: locations of new teams. And out there, I'm all for it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: I'm all for more hockey. I could watch hockey every day.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: So you know what, Cliff? In another lifetime, I was
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: an impersonator. And you know what, Cliff?
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: What's that? I like your little voice.
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: I really do.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: You like my voice?
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I can go out there and live with all this business.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: I can go out there and talk about it. Oh,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: it's only another week. It's only 84 games. It's like
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: the NFL.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: So, you know what, Cliff, for all those times that
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: you go out there and you have your rants and
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: your eyes are popping out of your eyeballs and all
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: that stuff, it's okay, Cliff.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: It's like now he's got the hakuna matata, no worries business.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: You know, like.
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Let me finish.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: I'm low pressure. You should have told me on the
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: first show. I was okay. It's okay, Cliff. We can
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: have a whole version of Cliff. Hey, Cliff, if you're in.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: The area, go catch the junior Bears and Hershey. My
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: nephew Ridge is playing winger.
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: Okay, very good. Yeah, at the Hershey Park Arena. But
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: Bruce Boudreaux's team.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: So, John, did I do a good job impersonating him
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: with the lower key? It's okay.
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: It's okay, yeah. Okay, we can go up there and
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: impersonate him.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: Did you want me to yell for this?
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to yell. I'll cliff kneel. This is
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: just a teammate. We can go ahead and take that
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: lower key version. Lion King, Hakuna Matata. Okay, go ahead, John.
• 54:24
  Speaker 10: Get stuff.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. You guys continue. I had to.
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: Get that in there. I can keep talking about hockey
• 54:31
  Speaker 7: if you want. I love that 84 games. I'm actually
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: surprised the NHLPA allowed it because they already play a
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: lot of games, but I guess the concession was they
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: had to cut the preseason games. Even when they do
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: preseason games anyway, they just basically play a couple games
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: against like they're within their division, whoever's close. Now it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: easier for the Islanders because you have Rangers and the Devils,
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: and that's quick. Or maybe even Philly. Oh, no, you've
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: got to go that far. I get that's not as
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: easy for the other teams out there, like in Seattle
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: or Winnipeg or something like that or Edmonton, but it's
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: not usually that big a deal for their preseason games. But, yeah, it's, hey,
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: I'm thrilled. 84 games.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: Bring it on.
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: I'll watch them all. If I could watch them all,
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: I would watch them all.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Well, your students have to learn a little something. Hopefully
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: they're learning something with their Wednesday night act with us.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Although I tell you, it's come a long way since
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: we started. And John's a natural at it, so it
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. All right, go ahead, Jason.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Anybody else?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Talk on it? We all talked on it?
• 55:41
  Speaker 10: I didn't talk on it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Well, good. Now you will.
• 55:45
  Speaker 10: So they are going to play 1,344 games. across 194 days,
• 55:54
  Speaker 10: expanded for the first time in 33 years. There is
• 55:58
  Speaker 10: actually nearly every day from September 29th till April 10th
• 56:04
  Speaker 10: will feature at least one contest. The only dates with
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: no games will be during the holidays, December 23rd to 25th,
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: and then during the All-Star break, which is February 4th
• 56:16
  Speaker 10: through the 7th. There is two other dates that there
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: will be no games, November 20th and November 26th. All
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: 32 teams will be in action across 16 different start
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: times on October 13th and then the last day of
• 56:35
  Speaker 10: the season, April 10th. So I thought that's kind of
• 56:38
  Speaker 10: cool that all of them are going to play. And
• 56:41
  Speaker 10: the season will conclude with every team in action for
• 56:44
  Speaker 10: the fifth time during the league's expansion era. April 10th
• 56:48
  Speaker 10: will also feature 12 games between divisional opponents. So if
• 56:54
  Speaker 10: it comes down to who's going to make the playoffs
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: or not, division on the line, there could be some
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: in that last day.
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: I have a question, Candy. Does Pittsburgh and Washington play
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: on that day?
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: I do not know.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Because I'm wondering if.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: I thought because it's Ovechkin's probably his swan song and
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: I'd be shocked if they didn't do major theatrical things
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: with Crosby and all that because they're big into that.
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: Of course they would be big into that. They've been
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: the leaders of the last couple decades of the premier players.
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: You know they're going to do something every single day.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the season. Enjoy the season. Worry about it later. Okay,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: go ahead, Jason.
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I was just going to say, Candy, is there,
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: I think you said each team gets to extend its
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: divisional game. I think six, is it six divisional games
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: added to their schedule?
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: I think it was only two extra games. Both of
• 58:03
  Speaker 10: them are going to be division. Each team's two extra
• 58:07
  Speaker 10: contests during the 26-27 season will be a home and
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: road game against divisional opponents.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's... I think that's amazing.
• 58:17
  Speaker 9: And, and, and I don't know the last couple of years,
• 58:20
  Speaker 9: the last couple of games, it might not be a lot,
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: but Hey, you might be a point out or two
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: points out of a wild card. And, you know, people, it's,
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: this is sweet. This is awesome, man. People are pulling
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: their leaves and it's three to one, two to one
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: pulling her goalies and tie games. It's crazy because it's,
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: You know, it's all about stats and statistics there if
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: you're tied at the points. So I remember about a
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: year or two ago, the Wings just missed the playoffs
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: because they won the last three games, and then they
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: had the whole Philadelphia loss and Washington loss, and they
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: both won. I think Flyers did lose, but Washington won,
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: and they got in the playoffs. So I love the
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: last two games because you just never know. So you
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: just never know, and it makes them more exciting. So, yeah,
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: I'm excited for that.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you put it all in perspective,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: what's two more games, like Cliff said, you eliminate two
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: preseason games, you add two more where they can't get
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: paid for it anyway, and then you add the divisional
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: opponent wrinkle into it. And so that takes away that
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: last week here. about when it's on the line. It's
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: going to help a lot of teams this year. It
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: depends on if you're contenting or not. I'm not going
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: to get into that. But it doesn't hurt anything. And
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: that's the one thing that's ultimately going to lead the
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: NFL to go to 18 games to begin with. I mean,
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: the reality is we're going to get rid of another
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: preseason game. You're going to get paid anyway. The question
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: is how much you're going to get paid. And we'll
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: leave it at that. But no, it's okay. I get it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I got no problem. You want to start at the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: end of September versus October?
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: So what?
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: You're still not going to compete against the NFL or
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: college football, but why not? doing everybody's got hockey in
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: their mood. No, just a notation though, on the Thursday
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: night show, for those of you know, for a period
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: of time, sports rep was actually the exclusive hockey show.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: What we've done now, and those changes are actually implemented
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: when John came on and he got in at the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: right time, actually, although actually you had one hockey show,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: And then we actually notated those changes. Now we have
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: hockey topics and we're able to go around the horn.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: So guys like John, that, and everybody else that can
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: talk about everything. And those changes have worked out tremendously
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: as well for us. So you'll see the majority of
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: the hockey topics on Thursday. I only mention them every
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: now and then because Cliff obviously has a desire to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: talk it, and I incorporate him in because of Cliff.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: And obviously he knows the sport quite well. Just want
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to make sure that people across the network understand those
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: changes and so forth. And I know Jason is a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: compassionate Red Wings fan as well and whoever. And I think, Lucas,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: you like the Carolina Hurricanes, right?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: I'm more of a San Jose Sharks fan. I actually
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: have a San Jose jersey in my closet right now,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: and I cannot wait for the season to start. Holy cow.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: I watched the Patriots and Kansas City. Oh, my gosh. Wow,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 8: Patriots and Seattle game for like the first two minutes.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I'm done with football. Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: For the whole year.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: You got that seven-foot winger to just go with Celebrini.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I know.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: Cliff, who were you asking me if they play on
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 10: the last day?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: Pittsburgh and Washington.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: Pittsburgh. Let's see. Let's see. Okay. Pittsburgh, let me see.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: They're the Penguins. The Penguins play the Devils.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: They blew the opportunity. Come on. You got to put
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: Sidney versus Ovechkin in the last game of the regular
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: season because you don't know if they're going to both
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: make the playoffs. Pittsburgh is, I don't know. April 4th.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: April 4th. April 4th.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 10: So it's close, but it's not.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: It's close, but the last game. Actually, I would have
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: strategically done it. So the first game of the season,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: the last game of the season, and the first game
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: back from the Christmas break would have all been Washington
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 7: versus Pittsburgh. You got to do it that way.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: You have to do it that way. Well, they didn't.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: They didn't.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: They don't get it.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 13: It's a show. It's show business, okay? You got to understand.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 13: You have to understand how to do this right. I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 13: told you, it's all about the theater.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: You're a damn college professor.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: How do you know?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: You've got Crosby.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: They're the two.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 13: Biggest legends in the last 20 years. It's Ovechkin's last year.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 13: How do you not do that?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 14: Have a little bit of imagination. Have some chutzpah. Have
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 14: some great production. Oh my gosh. That's how you have
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 14: to do it. Nobody has enough imagination. Nobody has vision.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: It's so frustrating dealing with these people who are like,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: we're just going to play the games. How do you
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: not have that be like that?
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: How?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: How can I do that? Because you're a college professor.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: You're not a teacher. You hate shows. You hate show business.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: You hate the spectacle.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 15: The glory of all of it. Coming together as the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 15: two final gladiators. The two superstars. The two legends. One
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 15: last time. At the last game. The first game.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: What a gift. We'll never see them again. You have
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: to do it that way. Wake up, NHL. Do a
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: schedule change and make this right.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Are you done? If you're not, you're done anyways.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 8: They did it with Gretzky on his last year.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: Remember that?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: He did it.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: He retired 1999.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: That was spectacular.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: 99.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: Retired in 99.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: He got it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: He knew it.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: They knew it.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Yep, I'm... Well, here's the deal. Here's the deal.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Number one, let's understand that you are a college professor
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: and not a schedule maker for the NHL.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 13: Maybe I should be.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: People don't see things. Don't put me in a box.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: I can do a lot of different things. I'll put
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: you in a lot of boxes if I have to.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: There's no box. You might need a box.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 13: I'm sure you're one of those people who says, I'll
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 13: put you in a box.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: If you need a box to think creatively, you're not
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 7: thinking creatively.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I don't have to.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Just be glad I don't put you in a pie box,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: you sick of it. Number one, it's the schedule makers
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: that did it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: Wait, no, let me finish.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: Hold it.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Let me finish. In your eyes only.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: Because most people don't see it. I see things that.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Most people don't see. How many eyes you got? You
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: got two and I got four.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: You make it better by doing these things.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Don't give me that business!
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: You need to break the show!
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: First of all, they need to know!
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: Why do you hate the drama and all that?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: Forget the drama!
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: The game is as good as it is. And you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 7: just want to drag it down by being great.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: The only drama you have is in the NBA. You
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: stick them there until I learn. No more boring Scott.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: First of all, nobody even knew.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Nobody even knew how his ovation was going to play
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: until he changed his damn mind. How do you expect
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: a schedule maker?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: They're not.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: They don't have.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: He's retiring.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: He said it.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: He said it. He's retiring.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: He's done.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. He was waffling like Brett Favre.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: You sick, man. Don't give me that business. They didn't
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: know how to schedule it, and that's why they did
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: what they did.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: We got here. They don't know what they're doing. You're
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: an Islander, but you're acting like the devil on this show.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: I'm acting like the devil because I want to see
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: them go out.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Because you want to see them go out? Yeah, but
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: the schedule.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: There's nothing evil about that. I want to bring... race
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: and wonder and make people feel fuzzy inside and yummy.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they are fuzzy inside.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: We want the glory of them going out like the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: warriors they are.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: They're watching you.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: You know what's happening? They're watching you get toasted in
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: this debate because... Toasted?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: What toasted? There's no toast here.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, there is. Did Mama and Danny ever tell you
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: don't interrupt?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: I got a toaster.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: I have a toaster around here somewhere. No, I said
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: toast dad. With an E-D, not E-R.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: You're not toasting me. What are you toasting me on?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: You're toasting me on.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 13: I want a little bit of theater with Ivechkin and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 13: Cosby going out together.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: What's wrong with that? Only you would be against that.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: You want nice, boring schedules, Scott.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: You like nice and boring.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 7: You don't like the showstoppers and all that. Forget the showstoppers.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: We just.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: Time out.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Hey, hold on. Time out. I get a word in.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: I know, before you mumble yourself all the way to
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: the top.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: I get to bring up that great cliche of, you know,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 7: having heard the third time's a charm. Yeah, that was
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: a great argument last week.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Don't give me that business.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Number one, I'm going to say something, and my father-in-law,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Fred Ebeling, is going to send me some duct tape
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: down from heaven to put it over your lip for
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: a minute. Well, I say something. Number one, you want theater.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: There's perception and reality. He was waffling like Brett Favre. No,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: don't say nothing.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: Give me all the nonverbal looks you want. You're a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: communications guy. I'll live with that business. Number one, I
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: think this is not the NFL. They don't have flex scheduling.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: They probably might have gotten your wish. Don't give me
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: that look, okay? Or I'll knock it off, as Clover
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Wang would say in Rocky. Is that what he said?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 10: I watch him.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 9: What?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: The bottom line is everybody may want to see it,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: but the reality of the situation is this. They didn't
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: because the guy couldn't make up his damn mind, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: that's what they had to do. Say what you want. Yes,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: theater is theater. Of course, I never went out there
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: and got involved with theater. All I did was have
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: a 48-year career in media anyway, and that's theater enough.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: And then I come across a guy like you who
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: comes here, I want to change the schedule, but I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: hope that you're showing your students the podcast, because that
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: way you know what it's like to get your butt
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: toasted every time.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: You didn't toast anything.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: There was no flame.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: I can't toast with ice, okay?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: I can tell you some of my toasting stories, and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, you'd lose an awful lot of appetite.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 10: But that said.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: We've got to get on to the next thing.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Rob's here.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will because we have other people that want
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: to talk about other stuff, including Marasco, who just walked
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: in here a few moments ago.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Welcome aboard.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: All right, but anyway, Cliff, he kept it alive here, Rob,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: for you to get here.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: We know you don't talk hockey, so don't worry about it.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: But anyways, with that said, Cliff, great stuff. Enjoy watching
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: the blood pressure go up to 100 miles an hour.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: Don't worry, Dr. Beatty, it's not 192.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to the emergency room anyway. I have
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Rusty after the show. Okay, well, we welcome Rob Marasco
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: to the show. Everybody entertained by that out last year.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: They consisted of Brett Barb and all the waffling.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Say yes or no. We'll say, you know what, Motor Mouth,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: you need to duck that, not him, or vice versa.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: Put it in the comments, and we'll get back to you.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: And maybe invite you in for another round of Scott
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: versus Cliff round 9 million.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, with that said, let's go ahead.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about something that Rob Morasco is
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: all too familiar with, and we're going to talk about
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Jay Horowitz. Jay Horowitz
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: recently celebrated an 80th birthday. Terry Collins said on his podcast,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: happy birthday. He never looked so good. Obviously, Horowitz Woods
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: is a legend VP of the Alumni Relations. Anybody that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: knows anything about Jay Horowitz will tell you he worked
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: with him. One of the greatest people I've ever worked with.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: My time going back to Jay goes back to the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: 1980s when he got me credentials all the way up.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they were at St. Lucie at
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: the time, but he took care of me throughout the years.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I have nothing but the utmost respect. for Jay Horowitz.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I 80, 81, whatever it is.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. Rob, since you're, you just popped in
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: some thoughts about Jay Horowitz.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: Real quick.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 12: Cliff was so loud that I heard him on the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 12: other show that I was doing.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: That's how loud he was.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: He got me worked up. He got me worked up.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Jay, I love Jay.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 12: Jay did me a favor when I was, uh, when
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 12: I was a young kid in college. Um, He got
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 12: me into the 1985 Mets were doing something.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: And he got me in there, and.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 12: He allowed me to interview Davy Johnson and a bunch
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 12: of other Mets, and Tim McCarver, who was the Mets
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 12: broadcaster at the time. So I always, you know, I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 12: have a soft spot in my heart for Dave. He
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: was really good to me. And listen, he's amazing. Everybody
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 12: in baseball... loves Jay Horowitz. Everybody knows Jay. Everybody loves him.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 12: He's just a great guy.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Jay's just iconic. That's the only word. You talk about
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: a treasure person. Any thoughts, John?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: You know, the thing I heard about him was he
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: was so beloved, not just by, you know, fans, spectators,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: but the players. After the 86 series, didn't the Mets
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: players vote him a full World Series chair?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: People don't give away money. No, they don't.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: But he deserves it.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: He's got a press box, as I understand, in his honor.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's at Citi Field, and who knows if
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: he has it over in Fort St.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 12: Lucie.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: But I know he's got one in Citi Field for sure.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: And he should.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I've worked with a lot of iconic PR people. Lee
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Remmel's another one out with the Green Bay Packers. I'm
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: going to tell you, he's got one there. And Lee
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: is real close to my rest in peace to Lee
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: as well. And guys like Lee Remmel. And guys like
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Jay Horowitz, to me, are just absolutely treasure people. Cliff,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: any thoughts about Jay Horowitz?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 7: I remember when I was younger listening to all the games,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: and they were always talking about Jay Horowitz on the games.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 7: Who talks about a PR guy in the middle of
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: the games? That's how good he was. And I knew
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: I'd never met the guy, even though I was in
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: the media. Um, I never met the guy. I just,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: I've only heard the greatest things about it. I mean,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 7: he's been part of that organization forever. Um, class act
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: up in every way possible. Um, it's, it's everybody. If
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: anybody wants to know how to do sports PR and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: how to be a true professional, just look at that man. He's,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 7: and he did it for, so he's done it for
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: so long. Um, it's, you know, he could teach everybody, everybody, everything.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: on how to do that and even be just a
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: decent human being. And it's really hard to do, you know,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 7: in this industry when we're dealing with it. And it's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 7: a great human being and just a top-notch professional within baseball.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Cliff, as much as I ripped you and toasted
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: you earlier, I can't do it this time. And I'll
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: tell you why, because number one, when you deal with
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: this generation of PR people, they're difficult to deal with.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: And guys like, and I'm not going to mention any names,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: but this generation is far different than the ones that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: I grew up with. that you built relationships with, that
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: they knew what you could do, that they got out
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: of your way doing your job. These days now, I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: run into more obstacles than I care to admit. I
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: won't mention on the air what's the sake of alienating anybody.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. When you get a
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: guy like Jay Horowitz, who gives you all the latitude
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: to do what you got to do, they trust you,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: they'll let you do what you have to do, they
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: don't get in your way.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Guys like him are just treasure, period.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: This guy, to me, is probably the reason why you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: hear his name on TV, is he's a guy providing
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: you with all the media guides, and all the press
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: releases behind the scenes and making sure that his staff
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: is fully equipped because he's media friendly and make sure
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: his guys, G-U-Y-S, are taken care of. I'll tell you
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: a guy, and I'll tell you why I can give
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: you a great story about this one too. I remember
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: years ago when I was in the Cactus League and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: there was a guy by the name of Tom Skybosh
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: of the Milwaukee Brewers, one of the nicest guys I've
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: ever met. And he always referred to his media people.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: And even though I was a visitor, I got along
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: with Tom really well. And he always referred to us
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: as his guys. And you know, anybody that's been in
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: the business that says his guys, they take care of you.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: And I've been in that realm and sector many times
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: and it's great. Now it's just a different animal. You know,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: obviously you have a couple of newcomers in there. Lucas,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: anything you want to add to this?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: I mean, he seems like the type of person that
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: would really have teens say, Hey, We trust that you've
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 8: been doing this for 40 years. You do your thing.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: We're not going to tell you what to do. I mean,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: you know your people. Let's push it on through. And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: he'll be more than flexible. I mean, he's seen the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: media realm change through so many generations.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Right. And, I mean.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: Good for him for just seeing.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 8: The light in everyone's heart i mean goodness gracious that
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: is very rare these days i mean especially in a
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: lot of organizations that just oh we like that's just
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: how we're done that's just how that's just how we'll
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: do it and um i mean i'm just gonna put
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 8: it on blast here how carolina unc does their things
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: i mean it's it's been a oh my goodness it's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: it's a terrible transformation. Um, but that's also what's going
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: on out there. So, but, um, uh, yeah, people like
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: Horowitz are few and far between. And I hope one
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 8: of these days that they, that people like him just
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: replicate and like, Oh, people see, um, what Horowitz did
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 8: and is doing. and says, oh, that's the right thing
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: to do. That's how you're actually supposed to interact with people. Like,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: come on. That should be the standard operating procedure for character.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Well, that's it.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Good PR guy, get out of your way. As long
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: as you're ethical and you're trustworthy and you don't provide
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: fake news and sensationalism, they're going to let you do
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: your job. The other ones these days, they get out
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: of your way. They play favorites. And then it becomes
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: a problem. You get closer to retirement with that situation.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: And just be thankful when you're an older guy, you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: lived it when it was good, so you don't have
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: to worry about it when it isn't so good. Okay,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: with that said, okay, go ahead, Jason. You're new to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: the business. This is a lot. Horowitz is, to me,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: the class. What are your thoughts when you hear about
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: a guy like him?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: That's a good story, Rob, that he was able to
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 9: kind of help you as a young person. and Scott to,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 9: you know, you were saying to interview Davey Johnson, uh,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: and to, to just make you feel comfortable that when
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: you feel as a young journalist or video that that
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 9: person wants to see you win, like Scott, when I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 9: met Scott, I knew right away. I'm like, Scott wants
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: to see you win. Wasn't because that, Hey, we're from
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 9: local Detroit.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 9: I mean, that always helps. But at the same time, uh, I'll,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: I'll even give you, uh, I'll give you an example. Um,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 9: when I was at Lions training camp in 2010, 11,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: and I wanted to be out there and I wanted
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 9: to now, you know, I wanted to help the people, uh,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: get Lions training camp and, and just try to get
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 9: some reaction. So as a young guy, I didn't have
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: all the credentials. So, and I was a little disappointed.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: I think it was in Dominic and Sue's first year.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 9: And I want to, I was like, Hey, I wanted
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: to say sports, you know? And I'm like, at that time, like,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 9: that's not how to go upon it. So, When I
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 9: walked out to the car, I met Jamie Samuelson, the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: late and great Jamie Samuelson from WDFM back in Detroit.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: And he told me, I asked him, I said, listen,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 9: how can I be a better professional? How can, which
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 9: I do to, you know, and he told me, he goes, Hey,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 9: don't worry about it. He said, the lions are, the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 9: lions are gun shy. A lot of these people are
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: gun shy. He goes, just keep working at it. Just
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 9: keep writing, keep taking videos, just keep going, learn, learn
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 9: from other people, learn from the best, but just don't
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 9: give up. You know, sometimes you're going to make mistakes,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 9: but at the same time, the best thing is, is
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 9: just keep working at it and just keep working at it.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 9: And that's the greatest thing about us as media and sports.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: And we have a lot of fun, but at the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 9: same time, Scott, you were saying about, hey, ethically, you know,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 9: we always want to do our jobs to the best
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 9: of our ability, but at the same time, you know,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: guys like Jay Horowitz, that's who you always want, hope
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 9: that mentors you, you know, so, and that's, that goes
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 9: for guys like Dan Dickerson, that goes by, you know,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: local guys, Jack Buck, you guys were mentioning, and, you know, and, so, Again,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 9: it's all about, you know, hey, if you're fortunate enough
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 9: to get the mentorship, take it and run with it,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 9: you know? Take it and run with it and just
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 9: have fun because it's all about passion and it's all
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 9: about loving the game and just to be a true professional,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: just keep asking questions and keep working because it's never
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 9: too late.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Candy, some thoughts on this.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: I thought it was interesting when I was reading about
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 10: him You know, he started as a sports information director
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 10: at New York University. He wrote for the Herald News.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 10: He then went to Fairlight Dickinson's University, and he was
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 10: a sports information director. Listen to this. On his first
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 10: day on the job, working as the official scorer for
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 10: a basketball game, he entered two men's players' names incorrectly
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 10: for the officials. resulting in two technical fouls and an
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 10: overtime one-point loss. Wow. Because he entered two players' names incorrectly.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 10: The other thing is, I don't know if you knew this,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 10: when his mother was pregnant with him, she contracted rubella.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 10: As a result, he was born with glaucoma and consequently
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 10: was blind in his right eye. which was a different
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 10: color than his left eye. When he was in sixth grade,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 10: an eye doctor advised him that he did not have
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 10: his bad eye taken out. The glaucoma could spread to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 10: his good eye. So he actually had an artificial eye
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 10: put in. And out of embarrassment, he never revealed that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 10: until 2020, that he had one glass eye.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. There wasn't anything artificial about this guy.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 10: What a career he made.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 10: You know, from all of that, though. So he's won
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 10: multiple different awards. Kudos to him.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, see, I have a soft spot for you, Maraska.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: I don't mind bringing on Horowitz once in a while.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: I better do. I felt, you know, I had to
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: bring this topic on to you last week. I really
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: felt bad. I had to bring up the Twin Towers
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: last week. So I thought I'd bring on a Horowitz
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: story just to make up and be nice. Don't get
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: used to it. But no, with all due respect, Horowitz
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: to me, I've worked with him a lot of years.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: He's just a great guy. But now I can get
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: nasty against you, Rob, because I really want to. And
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: that's why this next topic was inserted. Because on baseball history,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: of course, I'm nasty to all the people with New
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: York ties with this one. Because on baseball history, on
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: August 20th, 1974, Nolan Ryan strikes out 19 at one point.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Ryan throws and pitch clocked at 100.9 miles per hour. Boy,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: the one that got away. My goodness, a New York Met.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Although I think it was with the angels when he
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: did this. That's okay. But the one that got away anyways, Rob,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: we'll lead off with John though. So you have time
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: to recover your thoughts.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 5: Oh God. Nolan, Ryan, what a legend. My brother actually
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: went out and bought one of the Rangers jerseys that was, uh,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: had blood stains put on it to commemorate his battle.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: With, uh, uh, Robin Ventura.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 7: Robin Ventura.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: When Ventura charged the mound and Nolan put a couple
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: of– put a little hurting on him. Not just with
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: a baseball, but with his fist. But, God, what a competitor.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Who has that jersey?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: My brother.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: Holy cow, that's awesome.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: That's remarkable.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 8: That is some history right there.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 7: That wasn't cheap, that's for sure.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: Not at all. All right, Cliff. That's cool. Nolan Ryan.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: Great story. Hey, listen, John, great story. I like hearing
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: your story, buddy. Keep them rolling. Okay, go ahead, Cliff.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Nolan Ryan, one of my all-time favorite pitchers. It
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 7: just absolutely killed me that he wasn't a Met, even
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 7: though that was before I was born. But still, just
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 7: to think about if the Mets knew what they were
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: doing and didn't have him in the bullpen, but really
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 7: had him in that rotation with Tom Seaver and Jerry
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: Koosman and later Matlack, oh my gosh, it would have
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 7: been just absolutely insane. But it's not surprising. He's 100.9
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 7: miles per hour. And he did it for so long.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 7: That's the amazing thing about him. he was like still
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 7: mowing people down. It's like all these years. And he's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 7: one of my all-time favorite pitchers, even though he was
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 7: playing on other teams, it was just nothing but respect
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: for that man. He was just, it was, it was
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: an absolute joy to watch him pitch. It really was.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 7: And he just, he just went out there and just,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 7: he just mowed everybody down. It's just, and how many, yeah, it's,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 7: that's the thing with the Mets. They, they got rid
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: of the greatest, like no hitter pitcher ever. And it
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 7: took them all those years to get a no-hitter. And
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: it's not really a no-hitter if we're really honest.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 7: Because, yeah, in the books it is. But that was
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: a fair ball.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: That was a fair ball. There was no replay at
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 7: the time. But, yeah, it's, oh, my gosh, Nolan Ryan.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: Don't get me started with this. I don't have enough
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: show for your latest one.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 7: Hey, I'm not getting upset. I'm saying nice things about
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: Nolan Ryan.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with that?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: Okay, I absolutely adored Nolan Ryan.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, Lucas. Cut him off before I
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: cut him off.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: Hitching coaches have taken from, well, put into so many
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 8: players what Nolan Ryan did as far as velocity. I mean,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: back in those days, you're touching 100.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: That's unheard of.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 8: Now it's just like, oh, okay, you're hitting 100, okay,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 8: and you're in high school. I mean, yeah, that's impressive,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 8: but back then it was even more rare. And that's
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: so crazy now that you have these Jacob Moritz, oh, gosh, Moritzky, Moritz,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: Jacob Moritz with the Brewers who's touching 105. I'm sure
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: he has definitely some– links from Nolan Ryan. He had
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: some kind of mechanics that he learned from Nolan Ryan
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: when he was a kid to even get to that caliber.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: And I mean, when you think of, when you, yeah,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: when you think of Nolan Ryan, you hear no career,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 8: no hitters, you hear 20 strikeouts, you hear just the
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 8: most feared here and you see the most unique pitching
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: windup that you'll ever see. And you know who it is.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 8: It's like a Juan Marichal. It's like a Tom Seaver.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: It's like a Clayton Kershaw. I mean, this is before Clayton,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 8: of course, but you get the point. It's so iconic.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: When you hear and see baseball, you see and will
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 8: forever remember Nolan Ryan.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: One thing about Nolan Ryan, I'll say this, one of
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: my all-time favorite pitchers. Hard thrower, he'll pitch you inside.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: He reminded me a lot of Bob Kipsch. This guy,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what, challenge him and he'll fight
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: and you're in trouble.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Nolan Ryan, one of the worst trades in New
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 12: York Mets history for Jim Fregosi. Man, terrible. Ryan was
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 12: wild at that point. His control wasn't great, but look
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 12: what he turned into. He won his only World Series
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 12: with the Mets, though. He had a save in Game
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 12: 3 of that World Series.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: And, you know, it's.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 12: Crazy to think that Nolan Ryan has never won a
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 12: Cy Young award. That's another thing that's just crazy. But
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 12: the Mets made a big mistake trading for a Jim
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 12: Fugosi who just, once he came to the Mets... He
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 12: did what a lot of players do when they get
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 12: to the Mets. His career went downhill. And Nolan Ryan
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 12: went uphill, right? And he just was amazing. And, yes,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 12: Nolan Ryan, 27-year career, one of my favorite pitchers.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Of all time.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the reason why I didn't win the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: Cy Young Awards, Rob, never played on good teams.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: He never did.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: When you play on the Angels, Rangers, all those other teams,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: otherwise I think he would have won one.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: Good point. I just failed that one. Go ahead, Jason.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: You know what? He's one of my all-time favorites, if
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: not my favorite.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 9: I was able to get a picture on the side
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 9: of a frame photo of him at Globe Light Field
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 9: when I did visit the new Texas Rangers stadium back
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 9: in 2021. He's the only guy to have two no-hitters,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 9: I believe, in a month. In 1973, he hit the Tigers.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 9: Norm Cash went up to the plate with a wooden bat.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 9: The umpire said, what are you doing?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: He said, well, I can't hit them anyway.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 9: He ended up no hitting the Royals that month and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 9: the Tigers. It was him and Frank Tanana. Frank ended
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 9: up losing his arm there and then ended up having
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 9: a still good career but dolan he could pitch because
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 9: his mechanics were great he he said it was all
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 9: about in the leg you know he lifted up his
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: left leg and you're throwing with well not necessarily with
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 9: your right arm your arm but with your with your
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 9: right leg and he said that It's all about that.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 4: And just a true professional. How does he not get hurt?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 9: He had 11-1 hitters. I know everyone talks about the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 9: 7-0 hitters. But he had 11-1 hitters. And I think,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 9: I believe, like.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: 18, 12?
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 12: 12.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 7: All right, there you.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 9: Go.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 5: 12.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 9: And I think it was like 18-2 hitters or something
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: crazy like that. Yeah, I think those alone were probably
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: one of my favorites.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Favorite ones. How did that happen?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: 50% of the time, he's coming out with no hitter chance.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: Great with the Angels.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 9: Like Scott said, he wasn't on the greatest teams until
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 9: he went to the playoffs with the 86 Astros. Of course,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 9: we know what happened there. The Mets ended up winning.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 9: Like I said, just a true professional. He lived in Texas.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: He was a farmer off the field, just a true
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 9: professional all around. And you're just never going to see
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 9: pitchers like that who had that healthy of a career.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 9: And I actually remember the last game, I think, was
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 9: at Seattle, and he threw out his arm, and that
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: was it. And he just pitched all the way until
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 9: he just couldn't do it anymore.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing that you said that makes a
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: whole lot of sense. Number one, Frank Tanana– could not
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: go out there and be an overpowering pitcher, and he
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: was forced to reinvent himself. He can't be like Nolan,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: and he had to reinvent himself. And the Tigers got
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: the better version of Frank Tanana when he was able
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: to go out there and reinvent himself, and he had
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: some productive years in Detroit. But no, let's not discount
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: what Nolan Ryland did. He wouldn't get in 98%, 99%
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: of the vote. So even though he didn't win a
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Cy Young Award, don't tell me 99% of the people
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: were stupid, making sure he got nearly unanimous. Anyway, great points. Okay,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: anybody else want.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: To add to it?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 10: Yes, I would.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Candy.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 10: So he has the major league record for 5,714 career strikeouts.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: It's 839 more than the runner-up Randy Johnson. He is
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 10: one of six pitchers in the Baseball Hall of Fame
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 10: who have more strikeouts than innings pitched. Do you think
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 10: about that? And he's one of 31 players in baseball
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 10: history who have appeared in MLB games in four different decades,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 10: different decades. Isn't that crazy?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 7: Never going to be repeated.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 7: It can't be repeated.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: All right. One more time.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: One more topic I want to get to since in
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: commemoration of the Brewers getting to the playoffs, we're going
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: to talk about Trevor Hoffman. Now we're going to switch
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: it over to travel real quickly.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Number one, baseball history, September 7th of 2010, Trevor Hoffman
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: earns a 600 save first pitcher to read 600 save club.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: He does so by saving Milwaukee Florida to win over St.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 8: Louis.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Some thoughts about that, John.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 5: I saw a lot of his saves. I was there
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: for 500 at Petco park in San Diego. And one
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 5: of our biggest disappointments was letting him go and finish
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: off his career with the Brewers. He's back in San Diego.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: He is on the staff of the Padres right now.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: He's at Petco between the dugout, the clubhouse and Gallagher
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: square every game.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: Cool. All right. Great stuff.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: Cliff.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 7: Right alongside Mariano Rivera at that same time, it was
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: Rivera and it was Hoffman during that day. There were
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 7: other good ones, but they were definitely above, above and
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 7: beyond all the other relievers at the time. It's yeah, it's, it's, it,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 7: there's no surprise there. He's a San Diego legend, even
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 7: though he did play for Milwaukee. I think he got,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: he got his start in Florida, right before he got traded.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: So it's part of the Sheffield trade. Yeah.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 7: So, but yeah, it's, he was, he was just, he
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: was just, I loved watching him. He's another player. I
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 7: just absolutely love watching, wanted him on the Mets, knew
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 7: he was never going to go to the Mets. But yeah,
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 7: he's a hall of famer for a reason. Especially when
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 7: this save is such a newer statistic. And, yeah, you
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: knew when he was coming in, he was going to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 7: shut it down. It was just, you know, Trevor Hoffman,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 7: that's 600 saves. That's crazy to think he was able
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: to do that. And just do it in such a
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 7: dominating fashion. Especially these days, there's not that many guys
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 7: who can do that. And relief pitching has changed so
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 7: much now and seems like, oh, well, we have a closer,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: and then he's not the closer from one year to another.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 7: Trevor Hoffman was in there, ninth inning, game over.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, Lucas.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the man is the reason why the Padres had
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 8: such a dominant bullpen. I mean, they couldn't really get
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 8: anything going offensively. But, yeah, he was Mr.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: Shutdown.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 8: He was 600 saves. I mean, couldn't really do anything
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: about anything.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: That he had.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: It was like Maya Rivera coming in for the ninth,
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 8: but it's Trevor Hoffman.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: It's a whole different entity.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 8: Was he a part of the 98 World Series team?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: There's your reason.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: That's... Um, so that was a great era for, for
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: him to, um, kind of get his, uh, post-season spotlight.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's probably many reasons why he went off
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: to Milwaukee. Uh, but just, uh, yeah, I wished he
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 8: could have finished it out in San Diego, but, um,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 8: news to me that, uh, he is with San Diego
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 8: now and that's, that's awesome. Cause, uh, He's now with
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: the best closer in all of baseball in Mason Miller.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 8: So that's pretty sweet. So I'm really hoping that he's
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 8: able to push some of that knowledge to him because, man,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 8: that kid is going to be lethal.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: That is it. You've got to remember that Padres 98
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: World Series team, even though they lost and they got
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: beat like gongs in that World Series to a legendary
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: Yankees team. But they outpitched the Cy Young staff for
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: the Braves in the league championship. You know, they had.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: Glavin, Smoltz. Maddox. Maddox.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: And the Padres outpitched them.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: And that was on Trevor Hoffman.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: Okay. Rob?
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah, just think about that 98 World Series right now
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 12: with the two best closers.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: In baseball, right? In that World Series.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 12: I mean, I know what the Yankees did in the
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 12: Padres really, you know, didn't do much in.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: That World Series.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 12: But, yeah, still, you know, he was just, he was
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 12: the National League's version of Rivera.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: The guy was great. 601 career saves. Let's not forget that.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 12: That one, um, just great. You knew when he came
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 12: into a game, it was basically lights out.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: Hells bells.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: Jason.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: You know what? Hey, 600 saves. You've now got to
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: be able to touch that. I, you know, it's, you
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: don't see it anymore.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 9: Like, you know, we used to celebrate guys at 300 saves,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 9: you know, like Don Sutton and Lee Smith, you know,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 9: and then all those guys not taking anything away from
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 9: them guys at all. It's just, I mean, 600 saves.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 9: You knew it was like said lights out. He's coming
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 9: in the ninth day. He's got some live heat, a fastball.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 9: He's unhittable.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: What can you say? Uh, definitely a Hall of Famer.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 9: He comes back to the Padres and he's going to
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 9: help that young pitching staff.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: I can't say enough about him.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 9: He was in the National League, so I didn't get
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 9: the chance to see him too.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: Much, but I do remember that 98 World Series. Just
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: basically a little.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 9: Bit too much New York, but like I said, if
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: you put him on If you go back in the day,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 9: even in 84, a guy like that in there probably
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 9: would have, you know, Goose Gossage was on that team. But, yeah,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 9: just nothing but much respect for Trevor Hoffman.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: The only thing I'll say about Hoffman, I'll turn it
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: over to Candy. At any time you can be the
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: first member of the 600 Club, that.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Says a lot. Go ahead, Candy.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 10: On September 7, 2010, he recorded his 600th save, and
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 10: he was carried off the field by his teammates. To
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 10: be a part of it was great because of how
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 10: much admiration we all have for Trevor. Said teammate, Craig Council.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 10: So Craig was part of that team. I remember that team.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 10: I remember I saw him pitch in person.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 10: Yes, he struggled at times near the end there, but
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 10: it was cool. He was always exciting. And he actually
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 10: mentored his successor, John Axford, on the Brewers.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: Great stuff. All right, I'll tell you what.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: Time to go to travel. Everybody's waiting for this segment.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to get right to it. So
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: here's a good one. We've got 10 free things to
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: do in Miami. A video will follow. Bob and Candy
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: will take over. But ten free things to do in Miami. One,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: South Point Park is one of them. They're known for
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: their sunset and their cruise ships. I love those cruise ships, right? Two,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: Miami Beach Boardwalk, free ocean walk.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Three, Botanical Garden, Tropical Oasis. I don't know if you
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: like that stuff. Four, Art Deco, District Iconic Architecture. I
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: guess that's what you call South Beach, which I don't
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: get to. Five, Cali Ocho. Little Havana vibes. Thanks, but
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: no thanks.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: That's okay. But at least you can do it. I'm
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: just not my bag. Six, the underline. Walk plus public art.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: Of course, it says Beverly Hills and Rodeo Drive written
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: all over it. Seven, Bayfront Park. Skyline plus water views. Eight,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: Peacock Park. Coconut Grove chill.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: Bad.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Nine, Lincoln Road. Ten, Miami Beach Trolley. Yes, it's free.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: So there you have it. So I'm going to go
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: around the panel real quick. Any of these, you prefer
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: rapid fire.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, John.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: I think the cruise ship sounds good to me. I'm
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 5: an old sailor. I like ships.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: What about you, Cliff?
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 7: Uh, boardwalk sounds pretty good to me.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: Okay. What about you, Lucas?
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: Never been on a cruise. That would be a cool
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 8: little bucket list for me.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: What about you, Rob?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 12: Uh, You know, I took many cruises out of Miami. So,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 12: you know, for me, that's my number one thing about Miami,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 12: the cruise ships.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: Okay. What about you, Jason?
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: I love to do the cruise ship. I've never been
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: on one myself.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: Candy?
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 10: I don't know. I mean, I've done the cruise ship.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 10: Boardwalk is always cool. Beach is cool. Botanical garden even
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 10: would be cool.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: Take Rusty there. I'm not going.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: All right, with that said, go ahead. We have a
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: video out there.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: And then after we get done with that segment, we're
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: going to let Rob and Candy go off for a
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: couple of minutes.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 10: Go ahead. I'm going to introduce this video because it's
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 10: a time when Scott and I were on our cruise
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 10: ship and Scott was going to have a little fun.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 10: So let me, with that being said, because he does
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 10: not know where I'm going with this one. Scott likes
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 10: wanted to make his own kind of music here.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Make your own kind of music. Make your own special song.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: Make your own kind of music. Hey, you can't go
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: out there and use these things the right way. You
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: might as well make a musical instrument out of them.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: Yes!
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: To me, Chopsticks... These are metals, so these are good
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: musical instruments, everybody.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: I'm at a hibachi place here on the boat, and
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now that I know I'm not
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: going to use them the right way, so.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: You might as well go out there and entertain you,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: knowing full well that forks are my reality, but these
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: little bad boys called chopsticks and metal make great musical instruments.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: Motor City Mad Mouth is here in the boat, and
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: he is king of the road. and is enjoying to
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: put this video up there. So those of you that
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: don't want to use chopsticks the right way, make a
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: musical instrument out of them, because I'll say one last time,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: make your own kind of music. Make your own kind
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: of song. If you want to see this video, subscribe
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  Speaker 2: to the South Florida Tribune YouTube channel. That's right, South
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Florida Tribune YouTube channel. I'm waiting for Rob to come
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  Speaker 2: up with his.
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  Speaker 3: Version of it.
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  Speaker 10: So that is on both of our YouTube channels.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for Rob to pay me back with
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: one of his. He hasn't done it yet, but that's
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: all right. The metal chopsticks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Well, I'm waiting for him to pay that back.
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  Speaker 2: He has to pay me that back instead of paying
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: money back.
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  Speaker 3: I never see it.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: This he has a chance to pay back because there's
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: not much money involved.
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  Speaker 3: Just kidding with you.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so Rob and Candy, while we have a
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  Speaker 2: couple of minutes, give us a preview of what you
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: guys are headed for on Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Candy. Start this time.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, goodness gracious. Well, if you want to talk about
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 10: last Monday night, you want to go to our channel.
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  Speaker 10: We talked about bucket list places to go in the
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 10: United States. You know, what cities have you been to? So,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 10: like we call it, it's the fastest 30 minutes travel
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 10: show on Earth. Like, it just, the time goes by
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  Speaker 10: so quickly. I'm not exactly sure what we're going to
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 10: be talking about this week. Probably another destination. We like
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 10: doing these lists to see if you've been places or not.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 10: Scott keeps sending me all kinds of content. So we're
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  Speaker 10: never short of content. It's just a matter of picking
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  Speaker 10: out which content do we want to go with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: And those lists are fun because although the list we
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 12: use Monday is We disagreed with some of that stuff, Candy,
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 12: because they had New Orleans twice. But it still was
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 12: a fun list. And I love going through the list
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  Speaker 12: of places with you.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 12: And like you said, it goes by so fast. In
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 12: the blink of an eye, the show's over.
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  Speaker 2: You create your own identity going fast for 30 minutes
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: or so.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: I like doing lists. I like doing all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: That's what makes us fun.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Business So Fun is creating your own content so that
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: you can find so many people that will latch on
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm glad you guys are doing well with the show.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: And I expect the numbers.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: Continue to grow up as you continue to grow the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: brand and increase your subscriber base. Because I know you
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: two have taken it personal trying to make the show
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: and turn it into the identity that you guys do
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: as well. We'll have other hidden surprises and guests that
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: come on that show from time to time to keep
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: it real outside of yourself. So those decisions will be
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: announced when the appropriate time comes. So what a show
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: we've had tonight. Of course, there's no show would be
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: great without a debate with Cliff Neal. Of course, I
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: can't believe the one that he picked it on, but
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: that's okay. I was waiting for it. I always figure
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: Cliff and I are like NASCAR. You never know when
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: the big one's going to hit anyways.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any difference.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 7: I wasn't expecting resistance on celebrating Ovechkin and Crosby.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't matter. See, the problem is you're a
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: teacher and I do this stuff. So nobody ever expects
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: anything I do because- If Candy can't figure it out,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: I'll be darned if you're going to figure it out.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: So with that said, let's go around the horn and
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: let John, everybody know he's going to be with me tomorrow.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: Right, John, on Sports Wrap? Absolutely.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: Have a busy show. John's our most valuable player. Comes
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: out Wednesday and Thursday on these two big shows. We
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: give him a big dish of topics to talk about
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: for these two days. John, please let everybody know how
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: they can get a hold of you. Oh, hey, you
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: can get a hold of me here on Sports Wrap.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: And Sports Wrap tomorrow and, of course, Sports Exchange tonight.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: Sports Exchange tonight and Sports Wrap tomorrow.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: That a boy.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: This guy's unbelievable. I love the knowledge he brings. All right, Cliff,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 7: And give it to me. You can watch me and
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 7: Scott go at it every Wednesday night right here on
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: Sports Exchange. I'm on Facebook, and you can see my
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 7: name right there. I've also been dabbling with the Instagram. So, yeah,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 7: when I talk about sports, I'll put my stuff out there.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 7: I upset people sometimes, but, you know, that's the.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: Fun of it.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: You think?
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: You dabble.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 7: I dabble. I'm a dabbler.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm a good impersonator.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 7: All right, go ahead, Lucas.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: Let them know how they can find you, buddy.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, here in the Sports Exchange, Wednesday when I can,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 8: most of the time I can, and it's.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: A good time to try.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the key word. Yeah, just try to put
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 8: as much knowledge into this and try to learn some
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: things as well. And as far as Instagram, I'm LensterLucas.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 8: And then on Facebook, it's Lucas Nelson.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 10: So, yep.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: And whenever Lucas comes on, It's always great. I find
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: that this guy in North Carolina, to me, was really
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: great stuff, and I'm glad he's on our show. Whenever
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: he can get on, he's been pretty good. But whenever
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: he comes on, he does. As a gig, it don't matter.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: He just comes on the following weekend. He's even better
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: the following week because he's got all the energy bottled
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: up to get it out there.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: And he's unbelievable. All right, Rob, go ahead.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, Monday nights around 7.15, No Limits, our travel show. Quickest,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 12: like we said, half hour in travel. Wednesday nights here.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 12: Sports Exchange, and everywhere else, Monday afternoons at 3 p.m.,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 12: Thursday nights at 8.30 p.m., NYMLB talk all over the place.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: All right, Jason, go ahead. Candy, we'll wrap it up.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 9: You can find me on the Sports Exchange Wednesday nights,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 9: 9 to 11, and also Jason Prock on Facebook and YouTube.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 9: You can find me on Prock Sports Edge 1. And
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 9: another great show, guys.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Jason. You're hanging with us all night. Glad you
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: got through your other stuff till you made it the distance.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: Proud of you, Jason. Give yourself a pat on the
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: back from me to you, all right? You're a trooper tonight.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: You did fantastic. Candy, take us the rest of the way.
• 1:50:44
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• 1:53:12
  Speaker 10: That's it.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: So that does it for this edition of Sports Exchange.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Great doubleheader tonight. Motor City Mad Mouse show earlier in
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: the night.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: And we cap it off with the Sports Exchange. Great
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 3: doubleheader night.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow we have Sports Wrap followed by fire up the
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: country club. So on behalf of John Hopkins, Cliff Neal,
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: Lucas Nelson, Rob Moroska, Jason Prock and Kane Ambling, my
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: name is Scott Morgan, Roth Motor City Mad Mouth. Thank
• 1:53:33
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• 1:53:36
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• 1:53:39
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• 1:53:41
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• 1:53:44
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• 1:53:48
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• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: And once again, a special thanks from our crew. They
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: were a fantastic night, as they always are. I recruit
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: the best. Our crews are a family, and I'm proud
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: that they're all part of our extended family. God bless
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: the crew and everybody out there as well. We'll get
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: some more hay so we have a lot more to
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: say beginning tomorrow night and next week.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: Take care, everybody. Have a great night.
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  Speaker 7: Bye now.
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  Speaker 5: Hasta mañana.