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Internet Voodoo | Cult of Chucky · Potato Chip Pictures - A Podcast

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I don't have any of the words prepared.
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I'm going to shove it to you this week.
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No. Yes, I did it twice in a row.
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I'm exhausted. That might be the interest.
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Hello and welcome to Potato Chip Pictures, the movie franchise
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review Podcast. My name is B Sammy Davis.
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Hello. I'm also B Sammy Davis Legasp.
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Hi, it's Justin. I'm starting a cult, and that
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cult is going to be all Sammy's. It's going to be all Sammy's.
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Well, tell me. Tell me about 2017's Cult of
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Chucky. Ah, still once again make.
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Oh, for the last time, I don't know.
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We're not looking at the the series shows, so maybe he's back
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in those. But for the movies, this is the
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second to last Chucky that we're going to look at.
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But Don Mancini is still helming for directing, screen writing,
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pretty not producing, but David Kirschner is still there for
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producing with Ogden Gavanski now joining.
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Yeah, $5 million budget. As far as we understand, no box
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office straight direct to home video, you know.
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Yeah, there are numbers that get thrown around.
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The one that I'm seeing right now is that in its first month,
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I guess it grossed $2.3 million from physical media sales.
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But we don't get to know what, what were the streaming sales?
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We don't get to know like any of the other numbers and we
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definitely don't get to know how it has progressed.
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Obviously it made less money month over month, but I would
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like to know the running total. Has it made its money back by
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now? I feel like they knew themselves
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enough that Chucky was a brand name.
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He looks a little different in this one.
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Doesn't end up with the Scarface.
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I think it's eventually all right.
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I don't really dig the doll face to animatronic face where it's
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like this is obviously a doll's face.
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The mouth doesn't move and it just doesn't change as well for
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me. Like it's more like a Toy Story
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type feel of the end of the toys are alive when you're not
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watching. Yeah, and it works for me
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because I think it was like 2 movies ago when Jennifer Tilley
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was like or no, it was Chucky to Tiffany saying Barbie up or
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something like that to be like, oh, go into doll form and and
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they, you know, just go to the reset position and then you
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don't push any buttons. But for me, the audience, I'm
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sitting here like, wow, they're staying perfectly still.
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It works for me. Boo all you want.
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It works for me. I think less over all of this
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movie works for me at I am happy that it continues Nika's story.
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I feel like she doesn't get as portrayed as not a vengeful just
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victorious from the previous movie.
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Like even though she lost everybody, she was rubbing it in
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Chucky's face like ha, you suck. Oh yeah, and then this one,
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she's kind of a bit of a chump. She's a little downplayed.
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I don't know, like, sure, she's spent all these years and
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apparently she's been like hypnotized and whatnot and it's
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like. That's true.
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She's been beaten up. By and the brain scrambled with
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the electroshock therapy, Yeah. I mean, I don't know actually
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what it actually does to your brain, but I don't think it can
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be good. Yeah, I don't want it.
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Maybe in some scenario it's helpful treatment for something,
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but. And then you've got eventually
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we get to see what type of hypnosis she has been under.
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Yeah, creepiest. I guess I can, I can be, I can
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be forgiving of Anika, who isn't, as you know, ready for
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the fight as she was in the last movie.
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Yeah, yeah, I it's not as slow I guess as the beginning, but it
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is definitely, I don't know, it feels more artsy for some reason
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like. OK, I'm glad you said it.
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I am so glad you said it because my mixed feelings for this whole
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thing is that I think this story sucks, but I think visually this
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is probably the best movie in the franchise.
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It looks so good. It is such a good looking movie.
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Just visually stunning. It's got some really strange and
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interesting ideas and angles that it plays with.
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The sets are very Tim Burton esque.
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It it works for me, it the story doesn't like I'm bored all the
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way through. But yeah, it looks so good.
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I think there's not too many reasons to really keep it at the
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place other than here's people that are defenseless than can be
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killed by Chucky. Like OK, but we didn't really
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care if you threw a mailman doing his route at Chucky.
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Like he would just die. But yeah, the the side
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characters have some arcs and I don't think I quite understand
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the red hair guy's complete arc because it's like he says he has
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Chucky's voice in his brain too. But he's a he's.
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A dude like a real life person. That's his is the most
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frustrating because it feels like the most wasted.
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He's he's so close to interesting that I want to stick
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up for him. But at the same time, yeah,
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there's there's not enough there.
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He's just kind of there for the beginning and the end.
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There's an interesting idea that they have, but they never see it
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through and they dismiss it when they finally get to that idea.
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Yeah, yeah. I don't really understand.
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I feel like since he's a side character, we don't need to know
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as much about his multiple personalities.
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But it feels like it when you have different people, there's
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different motivations and sometimes the different
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characters came through. So he didn't do a horrible job
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being different people, but it felt like, I don't really.
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We haven't circled backed, it's the first guy or whatever.
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So I don't really need to remember the first guy that he
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was or something like that, so. Oh, yeah, they, that's part of
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the wasted potential. Let's, let's do him first
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because like, he's the most frustrating and he's the reason,
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like he's probably the reason that that reduces my score
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overall. Is this character in particular.
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He's the love interest. He's the best friend.
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When we're introduced, he seems, you know, a little toxic, a
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little problematic, but maybe he's a sane person.
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In this medium security prison that Nika has been shipped off
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to, we learned that he is crazy. He's got different
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personalities. Maybe he's faking it, maybe he's
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not. But at one point, at one point,
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our possession, Happy Chucky seemingly possesses this guy,
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and he's creepy a couple of times.
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But then at the end of the movie, Chucky Prime is like I
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reject you. Because.
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You're not, you're not good enough or something.
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And so maybe, maybe there is a soul of Chucky buried in those
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personalities, but because he's got dissociative identity
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disorder, he's able, not able. But Chucky is imprisoned inside
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of there. So therefore it didn't work.
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I don't know. I'm justifying something that
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isn't there. They like, oh, he's frustrating.
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Yeah, Malcolm is his name, and he, he does a couple of things
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in the entire story, like he goes and gets Chucky out of the
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grave. You heard that.
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The one lady, I can't remember her name?
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Angela. I'm not going to remember.
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No, that's the dead 1 Claire who burned her house down.
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No, Madeline smothered her infant child to death and so
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she's taken Chucky as her replacement child.
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And yeah, I'm like, OK, that's something.
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There are some very interesting ideas, it's just that none of
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them are really played out. Well, he's, I don't know, We're
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not ranking people individually, but.
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Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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Go go on with with him and his minor interesting points.
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I'm trying to think what else he does 'cause it feels like he
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teams up with the doctor in just being creepy.
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The doctor Foley's just kind of there's a therapist to remind
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everybody that yeah, they're, they're in here for problems,
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but also, hey, don't be so mean because people are in here with
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problems or something like that. It felt a little hand WAVY,
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like, yes, you're the doctor in charge of this place.
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Don't really ask him any doctor questions because he won't know
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you know. I'm kind of curious about the
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actor Adam Hertig, the guy who he plays, Michael, he plays or
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multiple Malcolm sometimes, but he does not have a link on his
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or on Wikipedia at least. And then on Google, he's towards
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the bottom of the cast list. Like I'm sitting here like his
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Why? Why does nobody care about him
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in this movie? He's the love interest.
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He's the one who actually scores.
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What, he's going to be Jennifer Tilly's child or something?
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Yeah, I'm not going to spend any any time looking it up, but.
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I thought you were talking about the doctor.
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Doctor convincingly pulls off creepy doctor and he's like,
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apparently his hypnosis is to take advantage of patients.
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So. He's.
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Approved for dying. That's my book.
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You know, and he's one of the better characters because like,
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you get creepy vibes off of him, but at the same time, he isn't
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doing anything until he's doing something and you're like, OK,
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he's a bad guy. Yeah.
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And then I'm trying to think of any other standouts.
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Well, she's not long for the movie, but the the old lady, I
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forget. Angela.
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Thank you. Yes, Angela.
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I, I was sad that she was killed off as early as she was.
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I really enjoyed her for every scene that she was in.
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She seemed committed to the the bit 30 years in the place for
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thinking she is already dead. Like if you already think that
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and then you live for 30 years thinking that like well, of
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course you're a ghost, except the fact that you still have
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probably all your bodily functions.
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So make that out to why ghosts exist exactly.
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Don't think you would jive. Who's ever heard of a ghost that
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needs a shower? Yeah, she dies first.
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I think her staged death frame death was interesting.
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Like OK Chucky's going to use Nika trying to commit suicide to
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stitch her up right in her blood on the floor because you know
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Chucky is magical so apparently it's way easy to use like
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plastic thread to someones arm up.
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Toy thread to stitch her up. It's such a good effect and.
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It looks nice, yes. I'm going to say the build up to
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the the attempted suicide was really pretty interesting and
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pretty dope. You know, we skipped over a lot
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of it, but Nika used to be in maximum security.
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Then she's getting transferred to Medium, where she will also
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get to have visitors. And her very first visitor is
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her niece, Alice's foster mother, Tiffany Valentine,
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played by Jennifer Tilley. And they even say you look so
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much like Jennifer Tilley. Just disappeared, you know?
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Yeah. And so I'm sitting here
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thinking, OK, we've got a cameo with Jennifer Tilley because
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she's sadistic, she's evil, she's really good in what I
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thought was going to be her only scene.
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And she just essentially hand waves Alice away.
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Alice is dead. Sorry, guys.
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Like. Yeah, that one did feel a bit
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like, well, you made this big deal of using a kid at the end
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of the last movie. Sure it wasn't like shown, but
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you purposely didn't kill off Alice and now she's dead in
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between the credits. And, you know, later on, we're
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going to learn that she was possessed.
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Hide the soul worked. And she.
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Yeah. And it worked for a while until
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someone fought back. And it turns out being in a
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little girl's body is not totally advantageous because she
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was killed, presumably trying to kill someone else.
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But we don't get to see any of that.
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Sorry, no, she's just mentioned. Only got so much money for
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stuff. Exactly.
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But that's how we get the Chucky doll into the hospital.
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That's how we get the attempted suicide and that's how we get
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Angela's death, where everyone's made to think it's a suicide
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and. Are all of the chuckies
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delivered? I feel like you.
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I kind of stopped paying attention and one Chucky got
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delivered, but then there's three by the end.
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Two were delivered, one was already there.
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The one that was already there was specifically a Chucky doll
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that Doctor Foley found on eBay and purchased and so it is just
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a good guy doll from the 80s with the pre recorded name of
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Chucky. And then Tilly brings one that.
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And that, that is our Charles Lee Ray.
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Optimus Prime. Yeah.
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And then there's one more that gets delivered.
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And I was about to say, the only person we have not covered and
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he is at the beginning of the movie is Andy.
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It's Andy. I do feel like it's a different
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take. Like I'm sure that prep for it
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was like, OK, this is Andy still.
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Still nobody believes him. But now you took out the Chucky
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that came for you and tied him up and torture him for his
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crimes. Like.
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Man, Andy didn't quite make it out of this unscathed.
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Oh, yeah, like once torture gets involved, I my opinion on
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someone turns pretty rapidly. And so getting it right at the
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beginning, I'm sitting here like, OK, Andy, you're a little
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weird. But we also discover that Chucky
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can't die. So because there's no heart for
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Andy to shoot, it's only this messed up head.
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All he can do is continually damage him.
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It seems like that's all Andy really wants.
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Exactly. OK.
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And then he's gone for most of the movies.
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So I'm. I'm sitting here like, wow, he
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really is just as sadistic as everyone else.
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Like, he's a bad guy too. But then he's going to see in
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the news that killings have started around Nika.
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And apparently, I guess he sees a doll.
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Like, I don't know. I don't know why he decides that
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he is charging headlong, Yeah. Going to go there.
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They need me go. And that's how we get our third
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doll, because he has kept a doll that he shaved the head of and
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apparently. This is a Chucky inside of it.
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I don't. Or did they?
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No, this was this was another one that was just a doll.
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And I'll be honest with you, I thought that Andy had put his
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soul in the doll. Like just sitting here thinking,
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OK, maybe we're going to have doll Andy versus doll Chucky.
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Like that's, that's where my head went.
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I can see that OK. But but no, Nope, it's.
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A It's a Trojan horse. I can appreciate that is an odd
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thing to add to franchise, but we've had dolls that can
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conceive, so that's not too far off.
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They can do anything they want. Exactly.
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And I, you know, I'm going to push back a little.
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I don't think it's a Trojan horse.
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I think it's more of a zombie infection situation because like
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he purposely brings the doll in hoping that it will get
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possessed I think, but I don't know how he would know that it
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could get possessed. I mean maybe not possessed, but
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he smuggled to stuff in with. Ohio, I get what you're saying.
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The Trojan Horse is not for people.
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No, it's not for Cousins. Because he I do think that seems
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reason half reasonable. He assaults the police officer
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after asking to get committed. It's like, well, you asked to
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get committed, I said no and you attacked him.
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I mean, that doesn't that doesn't scream mental health so.
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I'm trying to think of anyone else We need to well that those
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are all of our opening. Players.
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Yeah, like there's helpers. I don't think we ever get the
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nurse's name, but Carlos is 1. We get one of the nurses names I
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think at least it's on the cast list.
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Ashley. Exactly, and I don't think we
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ever see the other female nurse. We get her name as well.
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Oh. I don't even know if I saw that.
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Well, I'm just remembering because it's nurse Carlos when
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he's making Fiona or Nika welcome, he's like, if you need
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to go to the bathroom, call these two people.
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So I know he says both of their names and he says the days they
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work. I just don't, I don't remember.
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I don't think we ever see the other one.
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I think we only get 1. So we talked about Angela.
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She's our our first patient to talk about.
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But I think the second one who goes is Claire, the really mean
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one, the bully. She speaks her mind, Yeah.
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I mean, she's wrong, but. Every time she is wrong but she
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is so abrasive about it she's saying I'll just bully you into
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agreeing. A lot of adults have been wrong
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in the Child's Play franchise. One, she's that person.
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Yep, she is not alone. It's probably the most sane
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thing about her. But I'll be honest with you, I
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don't I don't remember why she's in there.
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Like she seems like a normal person to me.
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I know they say why she's in there, but she seems oh, is she
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the. Arsonist down?
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Yes, but it just burned her house down.
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Like I don't remember what she said about burning her house
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down. Yeah, maybe, maybe she didn't
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burn anyone else's house and just her own.
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But for some reason lighting fires gets you put into this
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asylum, this medium security asylum.
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But I kind of liked her death. It is a repeat.
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It is a repeat. And, you know, if we look back
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in the Austin Powers franchise, I, I got real mad at Goldfinger
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for doing a lot of repeats. And we get a repeat with
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Claire's death. But it was just different enough
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for me to be like, yeah. I think it was interesting, like
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I didn't immediately go to the the repeat thought, but I I see
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it. It's even a bottle.
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So the repeat specifically is the honeymoon suite in The Bride
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of Chucky when Tiffany as a doll throws a champagne bottle up
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into a mirrored ceiling and the shards of glass come crashing
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down and killing the the couple who are on the waterbed.
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It's it was, it's one of the more enjoyable deaths.
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Oh God, I love slasher movies. They, they make me sound like a
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monster. But then this one, it's like a
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helium tank or an oxygen tank, and they've got a skylight where
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the snow is just, you know, snowing peacefully onto this
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glass skylight. And Chucky breaks it off and
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sends it flying. I'll admit I I I went to Child's
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play 2 where he blows up the teacher with a pump, right?
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Oh yeah, he puts the the bike pump in her chest, but he kills
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her with a yardstick. Like clearly he didn't care
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about the what is it called an embolism when there's oxygen in
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the blood? Right.
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And like he had it right there. So I was like, she's tied down.
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And so it was, it was a different, different death than
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I initially expected. But then I was like, well, OK,
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of course she's underneath glass.
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Let's slice her up. We had to get a decapitation
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here somehow. Yeah.
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And this time, dear listener, both Justin and I watched the
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unrated versions. So if there are differences, if
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you watched the rated version and you hear us talk about
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things like a particularly gruesome death and you're like,
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that never happened, write in and let us know because I would
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be interested in knowing what the rated version was like.
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I feel like the rated version doesn't include their rendezvous
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because I checked they're like, yeah, I checked the, what do you
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call it, IMDb Parents guide. There was no reference to it.
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So I was like. There is.
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There's a bit of sexy times that happens in the stairway between.
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Nothing really comes of it and it kind of come out of nowhere.
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So I was like, that's fair, it was not necessary.
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Exactly of all the sex scenes to cut, this is the one because I
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keep saying love interest because of the sex scene.
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There's nothing in the movie that would suggest that they are
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lovers. And yeah, like, it's, it's not,
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it's nothing. It really is the most
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unnecessary sex in all of cinema.
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They're both fully clothed though.
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I guess maybe he's got his pants down, but they are positioned in
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a way so as not to show any bits and and they don't fall in love.
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They don't care about each other.
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They never talk about it. Nobody's.
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Pregnant. They never bring it up.
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Yeah, I don't expected a Chucky baby to happen because it was
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like, well, OK, I don't know what that was for, but.
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Yep. Nothing.
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Nothing comes of it. Maybe, maybe something comes out
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of the series, but we're not watching the series.
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Yeah, we've only got the movie to look at.
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And that was the most unnecessary sex I have seen in a
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movie in my life where I was like, what?
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Like, OK, the other one that I'm going to think of is 8 Mile, a
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movie we're never going to watch on this podcast, but a good
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movie. And at one point, Eminem has sex
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with his girlfriend. I forget the actor's name or the
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character's name, but the whole reason for that is because later
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on he's going to catch her sleep or banging someone else and he's
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going to be like, you're cheating on me.
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And it's going to be this, this whole emotional outburst.
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When you watch it in the moment, you're like, why do I have to
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watch them having unsexy sex? But then later on it pays off.
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This movie we watch unsexy sex and never talk about it again.
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That's why I think it was the unrated version, like maybe
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we'll see. Maybe somebody will will let us
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know. Yeah, maybe.
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So write in if, if there are any differences that you hear about
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as we go. But OK, so we dealt with Angela
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and Claire. I'm trying to remember who is
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next. Doctor Foley, Claire, Angela,
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Malcolm, Carlos, Madeline. It's either Madeline, Madeline
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or Nurse Carlos. Yeah.
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OK, so it is Madeline. Hers is my favorite. 100% it is.
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That's. How I don't understand what he
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ripped out just. I don't think he ripped anything
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out. I think he shoved his, oh, maybe
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he ripped. Maybe he ripped out like her
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ethophagus or something. Something like it did, it was.
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That's where I'm like, maybe that was part of the cutting
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floor. Who knows if we ever really need
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to know other than he suffocated her.
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Yeah, it's, yeah. It's such an interesting
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sequence, the whole sequence from her going to bed and the
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tension of like, what's going to happen between these two and
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then him revealing that like, maybe they know each other are
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alive, but maybe not. Like maybe this is the first
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time he's speaking to her because he's like, you're crazy.
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Yeah, it seemed like she had such deep problems.
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She still believed that was her son.
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And he was like, I'm going to use this opportunity to kill
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you. And.
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But he like one he didn't have to rush it.
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So I'm like, OK, this is Chucky When he's I'm trying to think of
29:26
like when a villain feels like a Predator where it's like they
29:33
have control of the situation and are about to kill something.
29:37
So like, I love the Alien movies, you know?
29:39
Yeah, see, I totally got like sympathy kill.
29:43
Like more akin to like a war movie where you see someone
29:49
suffering and then someone just comes up and kills them.
29:52
But there's no like malice or hatred.
29:55
It's just like, boom, you're dead.
29:57
And I got that impression from this.
30:00
But at the same time, it's still Chucky.
30:02
And so he's like, he's going to enjoy it in his.
30:06
Own way yeah like I don't see sympathy in him but the end of
30:13
nurse of Chucky he has something for moms I feel like that's a
30:20
bit of something because he. Could be.
30:24
He stalked that family and then kidnapped that Lady and the,
30:31
what's the word, hurt her child so that she couldn't walk.
30:35
It was maybe a little bit. I can see where that would show
30:41
up. Yeah, so most interesting 10 out
30:46
of 10 scene. Like for me, the stand out is
30:50
the whole end of Madeleine sequence.
30:53
I just oh man, it's just so trippy.
30:57
It's it really is everything that's best about this movie
31:02
without being overtly scary, as it were.
31:07
And that's the other reason I think that Chucky likes
31:09
Madeleine is because everybody else he's tried to scare in some
31:14
way. And then with her he's it's a
31:17
calm conversation where he's like this, you ready?
31:22
It's going to happen now like. So interesting.
31:28
I mean a little bit of the interesting part.
31:31
Like, not my favorite Chucky movie, but it had enough in it
31:37
that I didn't hate it. And that's where I'm at.
31:41
Like there are parts that I genuinely hated, where I was
31:45
like, oh, this sucks. And then other parts that I will
31:49
genuinely loved. And the part that I genuinely
31:52
hated was also somewhere around here.
31:55
And that's the hypnosis scene, the first one.
32:00
It's so gross. Yeah, yeah.
32:04
Trying to remember what exactly. So there are two hypnosis
32:10
scenes. The first one is just very rapey
32:13
where he's just like, I'm going to miss our little our little
32:17
time together. And Nikas, like Chuck, he's
32:21
behind you, and Chucky just knocks him out with a baseball
32:24
bat. Yeah, that one.
32:26
No murder. It's just like.
32:29
Boom, he blames her for getting him knocked out like.
32:32
Yeah, like he she's hypnotized and way too low to hit him on
32:38
the back of the head, but for some reason it's her fault.
32:41
Like course. Yeah.
32:43
One out of 10. Yeah, I have.
32:48
Just trying to remember the difference between the two by
32:50
the two. Second one, it goes a bit
32:52
further and it's they I was like, how do you promote
32:59
yourself as an actor? Like you could cast me as
33:01
someone incredibly creepy. I can do that.
33:04
It's in my wheelhouse because this guy just just funky
33:10
feelings from the beginning, which kudos to the actor, you
33:14
pulled it off. Great, great acting because it's
33:19
like Andy when he was a kid. Oh, yeah, Oh, yeah.
33:23
There are times when I'm like, I don't even know if this is
33:26
really active. I think this dude is really a
33:28
grief. I mean, I'm not gonna make
33:33
accusations. He did a really huge job.
33:36
It was very good. It's it's like the kid who
33:39
played Joffrey in Game of Thrones, like the whole world
33:43
hated him because he's a brilliant actor.
33:46
Yeah, so good on this guy. I hated his character.
33:51
He made it believable on purpose.
33:53
You did that OK. Trying to think of who else
33:58
might have died. I don't know if anybody else.
34:02
Let's see, I have the. List because I think we're yeah,
34:06
go ahead if. Angela.
34:09
We got her. Lady Claire is the glass
34:13
ceiling. Madeline gets choked.
34:17
Carlos gets stabbed later. So we are on 2nd hypnosis #2
34:22
yeah, that's where they're most because there's a lot of nothing
34:26
that happens. Yeah, it's very hard to see
34:29
nothing, but yes, not a lot of nothing that happens.
34:32
Yeah, it again, it looks great. It really is visually stunning,
34:38
but it sometimes feels like a 90s French film where it's just
34:44
like, Oh my God, it's. Like Sin City, if you chopped
34:48
into a couple of pieces, you know?
34:50
Yeah, short. Very black and white short film.
34:56
But I will, I enjoyed hypnosis #2 like, as much as I hate
35:01
hypnosis #1, as much of a stain on the whole movie that is I,
35:07
I'm kind of into hypnosis #2. I feel like at that point who
35:16
all is in the room, 'cause I feel like it's everybody is in
35:19
the room or something like that. Yeah, so I think he brings one
35:25
of the chuckies with him and then during the hypnosis someone
35:30
delivers the short haired doll, which is the one that Andy sent.
35:36
And so he opens it up and he puts it on the table.
35:39
I don't know where the two, the other two living chuckies come
35:44
from. That's the part I'm confused
35:46
about. Because one was with Madeline,
35:48
the other. And one is in the room.
35:52
Because Tiffany dropped one off. Is that the same one that is
35:55
Chucky? Chucky, yeah, yeah.
35:59
And. That's the one that possessed
36:00
Madeline's doll. Yeah, I was like, I don't
36:03
remember which one who possesses win because one of them I think
36:07
happens off screen, but the other one is.
36:10
Exactly so the the one that happens to Chuck to Madeline's
36:13
doll happens off screen and it's a big shocking reveal when we
36:19
discovered that there are two dolls The thing where.
36:23
You know, yeah, somebody got infected, but there's it's a
36:26
Chucky doll. Obviously it's going to kill
36:27
you. And then of course, during
36:30
Angela's funeral, we are led to believe that Michael gets
36:36
possessed, though as I already mentioned, that's one of those
36:41
weird ones that I want to justify, but it's not worth
36:45
justifying because he's not in the movie enough.
36:49
Yeah, and Chucky gets buried outside at some point and causes
36:53
away. Yeah, right.
36:54
Yeah. Well, I think I thought someone
36:56
dug him up or some, I don't know, because there's a dirty
36:59
doll that gets to Madeleine's. Ruin Nika watches the grave of
37:04
Madeleine's Chucky doll when she sees the groundbreak.
37:07
Before she can alert anyone, another Chucky doll knocks her
37:10
out with a sedative. OK, I recall that now, but.
37:14
I do as well, but yeah, there's a lot that that's going on, but
37:22
I don't. So where I'm trying to remember,
37:25
because we do get the two living dolls into hypnosis #2 they will
37:33
knock out and maybe kill Doctor Foley.
37:38
He doesn't get dead until the end.
37:41
OK, so we first. That's right.
37:44
So he gets knocked out for some reason and they possess the
37:50
third doll, the short haired doll that Andy sent.
37:54
So now we've got three living dolls.
37:56
Ready to go get Andy for what he's done.
37:58
Oh, yeah. But I what I distinctly remember
38:02
is Carlos opening the door and getting jumped by three dolls.
38:08
Like, oh man, that's vicious and brutal.
38:12
It is so brutal. Yeah, I don't it's, I say the
38:22
signature, the move of Chucky franchise is to throw somebody
38:29
at the chuckies for them to die. Like Carlos didn't really do
38:33
much other than live until he was the next victim.
38:38
He's a very cool character at the beginning of the movie, and
38:43
then he's just kind of there for the rest of the movie, not
38:46
really doing anything. And until we need to kill him,
38:50
like, we're not going to write him as an interesting character
38:54
beyond that first scene. Yeah, before he dies.
39:00
The Chuckies were revealing that thing.
39:02
We looked on the Internet for additional voodoo spells.
39:05
So they leveled up, got a new spell, and now they can be in
39:10
multiple bodies. And I love that that is the
39:13
explanation for the entire movie.
39:16
They're like, yes, we have multiple chuckies who are
39:19
possessed. There's even going to be a head
39:21
of a Chucky that is possessed somewhere.
39:24
All of these different chuckies for his titular cult of Chucky.
39:30
Why are there no other doll murdering things if these can be
39:35
found on the Internet? I bet that is answered in the
39:38
series. Maybe.
39:40
Or it was just one of those things where they were like, we
39:43
need to explain to the audience why this happened.
39:47
Just like, OK, fine, it's on the Internet, who cares, leave us
39:53
alone. It happens, OK, And we're good,
39:57
yeah. Oh, and then there's there's the
40:01
argument, because the argument is the other part that.
40:05
I was like, oh come on, SO3 Chuckies, All of them want to
40:10
kill Andy, so naturally the new guy is going to be the one who
40:15
gets to go. Because of a bad haircut?
40:19
Yeah, I mean, I'm watching. 3. Animatronic dolls argue about
40:29
the the what's you call it the leverage or the with the
40:35
soundness of their argument as to why they could've go murder
40:38
someone that started this franchise and came back, I've
40:45
allowed my disbelief to be suspended.
40:51
So sure, they hate their haircut enough for him to go be.
40:58
Why not? Why not?
41:01
Yeah, it was odd, but didn't bring down my very average
41:06
score. Yeah, and it it was fun.
41:10
Like I enjoyed that there was a gun inside the Chucky.
41:15
I was a complete surprise and like, I'm glad they did mention
41:21
that. Yes, that's Andy said that.
41:22
I was like, oh, OK, so the gun, the gun got its way in there.
41:26
Like, it's like, hold on, are we manifesting guns inside of these
41:31
dolls now? I was, I was confused enough to
41:34
be like, hold on, where did this come from?
41:40
Yeah, I I was into it. I was fine with it.
41:44
We get a pretty, I'm not going to say phenomenal, but a pretty
41:50
interesting major twist when Nika gets possessed by Chucky.
41:58
I think it was, yeah. I did not see that happening
42:06
because he wanted to kill her. So what do you think?
42:11
I think the first thing that really kind of took me out of it
42:15
was when Nika stood right up. Yes.
42:21
Because apparently with a new soul, your spine gets repaired.
42:26
I I did feel the same and then I was like you in universe
42:35
Chucky's spirit moves plastic dolls so.
42:40
That's true, and he's got the relative strength of a full
42:44
grown man. Based on the first movie.
42:47
So that's that's that was the immediate in universe
42:51
justification of like, well, he can make other like materials
42:57
move by possessing them. So OK.
43:01
But yeah, it was a bit of a leap.
43:03
So, yeah, but I'm with you. I was like, fine, whatever,
43:07
let's go. I already knew that Fiona Durif
43:10
was not, you know, a paralyzed actor.
43:14
I knew that she was in that chair as part of the character
43:18
and not part of her as a person, so I wasn't so bothered by that.
43:23
But at the same time I was like, OK, fine, whatever.
43:28
I was not aware and I, I don't think I thought she was confined
43:35
to a wheelchair, but I did not expect her to stand up.
43:38
And I do think it's a bit of convenience for future Chucky.
43:44
Things like, OK, well now she can be sleuthing around and
43:52
sneaking around on her own. Walk around wherever she wants.
43:57
So no extra props. And then the thing that I, I'm
44:02
going to say, I did like it, relatively speaking.
44:05
I, I really did like it. She does a really good
44:08
impression of her dad. She's really good at it.
44:14
And since we don't see Alice, we don't know if Alice had a Alice
44:19
voice or a Chucky voice. So I think it's it's service
44:26
like it, it can be, it could be how it is like you don't have to
44:30
do a complete Chucky voice, but if the voice goes away.
44:36
Yeah, if she decided to just start speaking like herself
44:40
again, maybe saying all the lines but not doing her dad's
44:44
voice, then I I'm fine with it. I'm not bothered by it, but OK,
44:50
here's the thing. A lot of this movie, she doesn't
44:54
have a lot of makeup on. And for a lot of this movie, she
44:58
looks a lot like her dad. And so I realized that Brad
45:06
Duriff is hot. Objectively, of course, you
45:11
know. That's the only explanation for
45:14
Fiona Duriff being as attractive as she is.
45:17
The. Headshots of this man in his
45:21
IMDb page. Yeah, he's the good looking.
45:25
Oh yeah, when when he was a young man, he was very handsome.
45:31
Like Lord, it's. Kind of surprising exactly.
45:35
Like it's really shocking at how relatively little star power he
45:41
had. Like he didn't get a lot of big
45:44
movies or a lot of big roles. Chucky is still like the top of
45:48
his most known, but then on his smaller or supporting parts,
45:54
he's so good. And especially Worm Tongue in
45:59
The Two Towers. And I think Return of the King,
46:02
I think he's also in that one briefly, maybe, yeah.
46:05
But he's definitely in Two Towers.
46:08
And he's hideous. He is.
46:11
They make him up to look as slimy as possible.
46:15
And now I'm looking at his hot daughter and I'm like, oh man,
46:19
this is weird. You already discussed Tiffany
46:25
showing up at the end or did I miss that?
46:28
Let no I didn't, but let's bring her up because this is the other
46:32
thumbs down for me. I mean, to get there he has to
46:37
kill Doctor Foley as Nika and then.
46:41
With a very gruesome face stomping.
46:44
Nurse Ashley and Malcolm both get drilled with a power drill
46:48
and then Chucky dies. The short hair one from Andy's
46:54
gun and and stuff. I feel like those are not as
46:59
interesting. Like we already said that
47:01
Malcolm wasn't too interesting. Ashley happens off screen.
47:05
Doctor Foley. Very gory, visceral.
47:08
Sure. I'll give him.
47:10
Props for that. That was the most brutal.
47:13
Like I feel like that was even more than Carlos, but Carlos.
47:17
Oh yeah, there are times when I'm sitting here thinking, I
47:21
wonder what kind of fruit they they dressed up to look like a
47:24
head. Yeah, don't know.
47:27
Because it gets a good smashing. They don't do too much other
47:33
than add to the body count. Like show that Mika can stand up
47:37
and she's strong as Chucky. Go outside.
47:42
Some of the dolls stay to pretend to not to be covered in
47:46
blood. I don't know how that's going to
47:48
work out for them, but. No one's ever going to.
47:51
Well, it it will work out for them because I've said this in
47:56
every episode and I have to say it again.
47:59
Dolls don't kill people. Of course, we just write in the
48:03
blood of people that says Chucky did it, and nobody really thinks
48:08
to look at the nanny Cam until it's never well.
48:13
I just had to make sure I got it out there.
48:15
So I've I've got to remember two more times.
48:18
That's going to be my catch phrase for this whole series.
48:23
Tiffany shows up. Tiffany shows up and Nika Chucky
48:28
greets him and kisses Jennifer Tilley and they're like.
48:36
This. Different.
48:37
Least sexy kiss I've ever seen. There's there was a pretty
48:43
unsexy kiss in one of the other movies we watched and I can't
48:48
even remember what it was, but this one I'm like, oh do we have
48:52
to be that close? Like these two clearly do not
48:56
want to be kissing each. Other I guess I you said thumbs
49:04
down on this one. Yeah, I'm thumbs down on on just
49:08
the the love interest between Chucky, Nika and Tiffany and
49:15
then the unnecessary Tiffany doll in the back.
49:19
She also got on the Internet. She did the voodoo.
49:26
And so everybody's got a Horcrux and everybody's splitting their
49:29
souls into as many pieces as possible.
49:32
Like at any point Chucky could have put himself into something
49:36
that doesn't show up until the 3rd or 4th season of the series.
49:40
So. For real, when you say that you
49:43
can put your soul into anything then you can just make things up
49:46
forever. Like Congrats you've created a
49:49
new X-Files. Everything is a possessed
49:52
Chucky. Yeah, so they drive away with
49:58
extra Tiffany doll and the entire institution is killed
50:04
behind him. And that's where the franchise
50:08
ends. Did you watch to the end of the
50:12
credits? I think ah yes I did because I
50:16
did notice it was not done. Yep, Yep.
50:20
So we had one last cameo. She appears in the credits, but
50:26
my girl Kyle is back. Oh man, I was so happy to see
50:31
Kyle. I had to take a minute to be
50:33
like, who could this person be? And I was like, oh, oh, OK, OK.
50:39
Well, we did get Andy back and it's kind of a fan service.
50:42
Yeah, let's. Yep.
50:43
OK, she's here. I'm as I said.
50:47
We got to have Kyle. She was only in that one movie,
50:50
but she had such a big impact on me in that movie and I've been
50:55
kind of bummed out that she hasn't been a part of the
50:58
franchise. So yeah, bring Kyle back.
51:02
And from what I hear, she's got an even bigger role in the TV
51:07
series that we're not going to watch.
51:11
Yeah. But yeah, as you said, and I
51:14
will second it, this ends the prime Chucky franchise.
51:20
We we made wiki. Doesn't even list the reboot.
51:24
Really. That is wild.
51:27
As part of like, the film that comes after is the television
51:30
series I'm like. But I'm pretty.
51:32
Sure, there's a movie, so I don't know if like a franchise
51:38
films Child's Play doesn't come after Cult of Chucky.
51:42
So I I mean, I'm going to watch it, but I'm not expecting Brad
51:48
Dorff to be the voice, so I may be disappointed.
51:51
Again, not a reboot, who knows? I.
51:57
Think I'm I could be wrong, I've never watched it.
52:01
Nope, I'm not wrong. I found it.
52:04
The first episode of the television series called Chucky
52:09
came out October 21st, 2021, two years after the reboot.
52:17
Two years after the reboot. That must be that bad then.
52:25
I mean, they brought back Brad Durif.
52:28
They brought back Andy. They.
52:30
Brought back to. Everyone.
52:31
Yeah, this is this is our Australian bond because it's
52:35
Mark Hamill. Really.
52:38
That's. That's a good choice.
52:41
I'm. Like.
52:44
He maybe wasn't as discerning about his roles.
52:47
I'm like, that's fine because. He's only got 1 villain voice,
52:53
so get ready for a Joker sounding Chucky coming up.
53:00
OK, I'll watch it. Did you ever play the the very
53:04
first Darksiders where you were? So it it takes place like I
53:11
think 100 years after the apocalypse and you play as War,
53:15
One of the Four Horsemen and you get bound to this demon like
53:22
shadow soul type thing. It's the wisecracking sidekick
53:27
for the entire game. But it's Mark Hamill and he
53:30
sounds like the Joker the whole time.
53:33
And so like, I love Mark Hamill. I love his Joker.
53:37
It is his only villain voice and it's what we're going to
53:41
probably get coming up next week.
53:44
He'll give it a shot. I I I do think I am getting a
53:51
little tired of Child's Play. Not that I'm not that I'm
53:56
positive that reflects in my score because this was not the
53:59
greatest Chucky. It existed after my mostly
54:07
enjoyable twist movie, but yeah. Well, before you give the score,
54:15
let me tell the audience that on this podcast we do ratings, not
54:20
grades. The primary difference is where
54:22
you find the average. In a grade, the average is a 7
54:24
out of 10. So you raise all the lower
54:26
scores up and you make everything feel good, even when
54:29
it's bad. But here we say nay, the average
54:32
should be the middle. In the middle is a 5 out of 10.
54:35
Therefore, if we say a movie is a 5 out of 10, that just means
54:39
that it is an average movie. So finally, Justin, go ahead,
54:43
tell us if you've got a score. I've given it sufficient
54:48
thought. It's not my favorite Chucky
54:51
movie. It's not my least favorite, but
54:54
it is near the bottom. Like I really enjoyed probably
55:01
the previous one more than I should have.
55:04
I don't know, it just felt like if you could raise the first
55:10
half of that movie, it would be a even better movie because man,
55:16
the twist and like there's only a couple of murders in that one,
55:20
like half as many as this one, but it just just as a little bit
55:28
better. I put this one at 5 as
55:32
completely average. It's not it is not necessary
55:37
viewing unless you really want to get ready for the series.
55:42
I think I it sounds like the series is a lot of after this
55:47
and maybe the series redeems the itself could be, but I'm happy
55:54
with five. I don't there's the murders are
55:59
semi spectacular, kind of just happen to try out some new
56:07
murders. Like how do what if we use a
56:10
drill on somebody's eyeball? It's like, OK, let's make an ad
56:15
Lib out of some stuff to make Chucky do the next thing.
56:20
But yeah, I, I don't have much to defend.
56:25
I don't have much to praise. It's got.
56:28
Just right there. Yeah.
56:30
You know, I'm also at a five. I'm not going to beat around the
56:34
Bush. I'm equally at a 5 because, and
56:39
I've already said it, I've I said exactly why it's at A5
56:43
story sucks, but it's one of it's the best looking movie in
56:48
the whole franchise. So my argument for watching it
56:52
would be it's got some moments and it looks great, but my
56:58
argument for skipping would be if you're not planning on
57:02
watching the TV series, stop it. Cursive Chucky.
57:07
It really was like such a good return.
57:10
For. The franchise, yeah.
57:12
So this one kind of leaves a sour taste in your mouth, but at
57:16
the same time, it's got just enough good stuff to not make
57:20
you, or at least not make me offended by it.
57:25
So I think 5 is very fair, which obviously means that we have a
57:30
show average of a 5 out of 10. Yep, nice and expected.
57:36
And and that means that next week we are going to do the
57:41
reboot 2019's child's child's play.
57:46
I can say words. It's a remake of the first one
57:50
essentially, is what I really think so.
57:53
Yeah. So which means technically we're
57:56
going to have three versions of the original story by the time
58:01
we get to the end. Because Cursive Chucky was also
58:05
meant to be a soft remake of the original where it was a single
58:10
family, a single kid. Obviously they didn't do
58:18
anything else similar to the original Child's Play, so I'm
58:23
interested in seeing if they try to stick closer to the original
58:27
with this one. Maybe, I don't know, I'd I'd be
58:32
interested in the production notes of Why did we bring back
58:37
Child's Play without Brad Dourif?
58:41
Yeah, and that's that's one of those risks that sometimes
58:46
doesn't pay off. I'm trying to think of Hellboy.
58:50
There was the reboot of Hellboy, and I don't think that did very
58:55
well. And I think most people were
58:56
angry that they had recast the original actor.
59:02
And I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, I didn't like love the
59:05
original Hellboys, but man does it fit Ron Perlin right.
59:11
Yeah, he is so good as Hellboy. He's genuinely one of the best
59:18
versions of that character. But my boy, I always forget his
59:23
name. Hopper.
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I don't think you. Yeah.
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Hopper was like, I don't think you like him very much.
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He did. He did his turn as Hellboy, and
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I thought it was fine. But, you know, I'm biased
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because every once in a while people say I look like him.
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So I I want the best for Hopper. And then there wasn't there one
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more person? There might be because there
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might have been another reboot that I just don't know about.
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But I'm, you know, this is, if we ever do one of the behemoths
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like Star Wars, even though it won't allow us to do anything
1:00:01
with the TV shows. I'm going to just say right now,
1:00:05
I think the biggest mistake that Disney made was not recasting
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the original cast. Like have a younger person
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playing young Luke Skywalker. Yeah.
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Like just let new actors do things.
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If they can act like it's still a character like, and if they
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look a little bit or can be made to look like them, go for it.
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Yep, 100% so so I'm not as bothered by the recasting, but
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we'll have to see because now that you've told me who it is
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who was cast, that might change everything for.
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Me for the better, maybe. We'll see.
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Maybe we'll see. We'll find out next week, but
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for this week, let me just say thank you so much for listening.
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We appreciate that you have given us the last hour of your
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Go ahead and send us an e-mail and let us know what was
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go. Look it up myself.
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And yeah, I I could always just put it back in, but no, I'm not
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going to do that. So I guess until next week,
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watch your ankles. Goodbye.