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- 0:00C3, connecting coaches' cognition. It's time to get some coaching for the coach.
- 0:15Welcome back to another episode of C3. I'm Kourtney Groskin and I'm here with…
- 0:20Sandy Heiser.
- 0:21Sandy, what's new in your world?
- 0:24Oh, you know, we just finished our day eight. We wrapped our first seminar, Foundation Seminar
- 0:30with Cognitive Coaching.
- 0:31Woohoo!
- 0:32We had a really nice group. It was fun to finish up with them. And then we get, what,
- 0:39a month before we go right back into our next cohort?
- 0:43Yeah, I don't know what we're thinking doing. We're doing days one, two, we get a day off,
- 0:48and then three, four, we're just going to bang them all out in one week.
- 0:52Fast and furious.
- 0:55I'm starting to see the light at the end of the training tunnel, though.
- 0:58Yeah, and it will be interesting to see what it's like in terms of content acquisition
- 1:03when people have less time in between each of the days.
- 1:07Yeah, definitely, because we're used to doing them a month apart and you have to do a lot
- 1:12of refreshing at the beginning. So, yeah, what will it look like when we just learned
- 1:16that yesterday?
- 1:18Yeah, maybe a little bit less practice time in between, but like you said, maybe not as
- 1:24much of a need for review.
- 1:26Yeah, totally.
- 1:30So as we wrap up your first season on C3, I thought we'd do a little reflecting conversation
- 1:35today.
- 1:36Of course. Appropriate.
- 1:37So how do you think your first season went?
- 1:42I think it went okay. You do so much of the work, so I just kind of show up and figure
- 1:50out what's going on and talk to some really nice, interesting people.
- 1:55It's a lot of prep, but, you know, having a partner in this makes it all worthwhile.
- 2:01What are some of the favorite guests you had on the episodes?
- 2:06Oh, my gosh. Each one of them was so different, but I really loved Joellen is coming to mind,
- 2:15Joellen Killian, just a lot of her just decades of learning around what makes an effective
- 2:22instructional coach and what makes effective coaching.
- 2:26And so much of her work aligns to what we're trying to do with cognitive coaching from
- 2:32Fixer to Empowerer, you know.
- 2:35The other one that really stuck with me was Craig Randall from the Trust-Based Observations
- 2:41book just because that's so much a part of my life in terms of being an administrator
- 2:47and evaluation.
- 2:48So his work really made me think a lot about how to make the evaluation process better
- 2:56for teachers.
- 2:57Yeah, I think, you know, when you look at your core values that work Joellen does grounded
- 3:04in the coaching and not the fixing.
- 3:07And then, like you said with Craig, with how to improve the observation process and make
- 3:11it more meaningful is always important.
- 3:17What are some key learnings that you learned along the way that you want to bring forward
- 3:21maybe into your year next year?
- 3:25Just learned a lot about the last maybe year and a half.
- 3:31I have not engaged as much with the, just not necessarily being on as much social media
- 3:41and so not engaging as much with new things and new books, new content coming out in education.
- 3:48So it really got me back into engaging with some of that content and some great work that
- 3:54people are doing right now.
- 3:56I feel like I used to be a lot more current with that work.
- 4:00So it's nice to be back in it and it's nice to be back thinking about I probably would
- 4:09not engage with AI as much if I wasn't friends with you.
- 4:14And so I've learned a lot about AI and just the different ways it can be enhancing our
- 4:20work through the whole season.
- 4:22So I think that was another big, big learning takeaway.
- 4:25Yeah.
- 4:26So how might you marry AI to help you stay up on that research and keep things a little
- 4:33current there?
- 4:34Yes, exactly.
- 4:36Well, I'm hoping the next season we'll keep, that's my plan for staying current.
- 4:43Well, that's the one benefit of doing this podcast, right?
- 4:46Is we get to talk to the people doing the research and writing the books and, you know,
- 4:51we get 30 minutes of one-on-one time with them to ask all of our questions.
- 4:55So what better way to stay on top of the research?
- 4:58Totally.
- 4:59How do you think you may, you know, sustain that focus of integration of AI and research-based
- 5:06practices?
- 5:07Well, we're doing some, we're doing, making some changes in how we create PD here at Skyline.
- 5:18We're moving from a model where district folks were working with our impact teams to
- 5:25next year having a model where our teachers design and facilitate the PD themselves based
- 5:31on staff interests.
- 5:33So I think, and AI was a clear interest area when our principal surveyed the staff.
- 5:41So I think that out of that homegrown professional development will come a lot of current issues
- 5:51and current research that we could use to, you know, to help our students.
- 5:57Yeah, that alignment is so important.
- 5:59It's not just one more thing added on when you kind of streamlined the goal and the focus
- 6:04is the same for everyone and moving in that same direction really helps keep it at the
- 6:09forefront.
- 6:10Yes.
- 6:11Agreed.
- 6:12People are hoping for a book study.
- 6:18So we just have to figure out also what would be, there's so many good books out there.
- 6:24So what would be a great, maybe our listeners will give us some book study suggestions.
- 6:29Yeah.
- 6:30Hit us up on LinkedIn and inbox us those suggestions or when this episode goes up, comment on it
- 6:37and leave your book study recommendation.
- 6:40It's the best way to crowdsource.
- 6:42Yes, please do.
- 6:44Well, we can't wait to follow your journey through that book study next year on the podcast.
- 6:50Yeah, it should be fun.
- 6:52Maybe we can get whichever, the future book, the author will have to be one of our guests.
- 6:56Oh, that's a great idea.
- 7:01What advice would you give to a new administrator as they're listening to this and maybe starting
- 7:06out their journey?
- 7:07Oh my gosh, a brand new, and we have some in the district this year, some people entering
- 7:14administration for the first time.
- 7:16And then we have also a cohort of aspiring administrators that are studying right now
- 7:21in St. Vrain.
- 7:23So I think the advice would be to, well, obviously take cognitive coaching with me and you.
- 7:33That's advice number one.
- 7:34And then I think also to really check out some of the guests we had on and dig deeper
- 7:42into their work this season.
- 7:43And you've been doing this a lot longer, so I'm sure you have guests that you would recommend
- 7:47from many different seasons.
- 7:50But just from this season alone, I think a new administrator could get some really great
- 7:56advice and tips and lots of places to jump off with either staff PD or just in their
- 8:02own one-on-ones with teachers.
- 8:04Yeah, so try not to get bogged down in all the minutiae, maybe taking some time to continue
- 8:11your learning to get new ideas.
- 8:14Yes, also go to Teach to Reach.
- 8:17Register.
- 8:18Yeah, Teach to Reach is one day this year, and I know registration is ticking up.
- 8:23So if you want your spot, be sure to get in on Teach to Reach.
- 8:27Yes.
- 8:28Well, Sandy, I appreciate you taking the time to reflect on your first season with C3.
- 8:33It's been a pleasure having you, and we're glad you'll be returning in the fall.
- 8:37And for our listeners, be sure to listen back in September.
- 8:40We'll be back with a brand new episode.
- 8:42Excellent.
- 8:43Thank you.
- 8:44Thank you to all our amazing guests who took the time to be on C3 this season.
- 8:49And for our listeners, we'll be back the first Thursday in September.
- 8:53Be sure to subscribe and follow us on social media.
- 8:56Thanks for listening to another season of C3.