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- 0:03Speaker 1: the north florida sports network.
- 0:05Speaker 1: It hurt.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back.
- 0:24Speaker 1: It's just another football monday and we're gonna react better than most.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Yeah, fsu didn't have a game, this exactly, yeah.
- 0:34Speaker 1: But the nfl kicked it off and I was dead wrong on some, a lot of the picks and the one that stood out the most was I picked carolina.
- 0:47Speaker 1: That was just.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, laugh at you, man yeah, that was bad.
- 0:58Speaker 2: I think justin nailed it when he said that, uh, the saints were the only team with an nfl qb in that game.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Yeah, bryce Young's just not going to do it.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Right, and he also said Caleb Williams would be a bust.
- 1:12Speaker 1: He didn't play well, but they got away with the win.
- 1:15Speaker 2: They did.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Man, that was for Junior, he needed it.
- 1:19Speaker 2: He needed it, dude.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know there were some good games, particularly, uh, the texans colts game was came down to the end the texans with the big road win to miko ryan's.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Man guy's a good coach yeah, um, the cowboys, uh, destroyed the browns.
- 1:49Speaker 2: That was probably for me that was the most surprising um the sean watson sucks I didn't see any games was it, was it pretty much all him that was I mean there was.
- 1:59Speaker 1: You can't do anything on offense yeah you know.
- 2:02Speaker 1: I mean, how could you be scoring 40 something points with with Joe Flacco?
- 2:06Speaker 1: Hey, it's booty time, browns fans.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I was waiting for, but I saw it on the internet Like 84%.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Right now the poll wants J-Bomb in there.
- 2:15Speaker 1: I mean he's just.
- 2:16Speaker 1: There's $231 million more guaranteed money for Deshaun Watson.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:22Speaker 2: It's funny that they were playing the Cowboys, because Dak Prescott is right there in that category too.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Just grossly overpaid.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Well, you had going back to that Texans 29, colts 27,.
- 2:36Speaker 1: You had the Texans CJ Stroud, anthony Richardson go up at it 29-27.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Stroud made like three bad plays, but he had, you know, I think it was like 80% completion percentage, though yeah.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Hey man, nfl's hard man.
- 2:55Speaker 2: It's hard being QB.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Saints demolished the Panthers.
- 3:01Speaker 1: You said he's not ready.
- 3:02Speaker 1: The Bears got lucky against.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Luckily they paid.
- 3:03Speaker 1: No, it's not that he's not ready.
- 3:03Speaker 1: The Bears got lucky against, luckily they paid.
- 3:05Speaker 2: No, he's not ready, he just can't do it yeah.
- 3:10Speaker 1: And the Bengals.
- 3:11Speaker 1: That was probably one of the most confident picks that everyone made.
- 3:16Speaker 1: They lost to the Patriots.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's disappointing.
- 3:21Speaker 1: You know the Bucs took care of the commanders.
- 3:24Speaker 1: The Bucs look good.
- 3:25Speaker 1: You know I like what they did with the deal with baker mayfield.
- 3:29Speaker 1: You know you don't would have said 33 million is taking a butt like a break.
- 3:34Speaker 2: But when you look at some of these other quarterbacks, what?
- 3:36Speaker 1: you're getting for that money right.
- 3:38Speaker 1: It works well with the team.
- 3:40Speaker 1: You can.
- 3:40Speaker 1: You can go out and get additions to it.
- 3:43Speaker 2: You can add to the defense.
- 3:44Speaker 1: You can sign winfield, your safety, you can sign.
- 3:47Speaker 1: It takes the qb to understand that and be okay with it and actually prefer that I think what he learned being in cleveland seeing all the you know number one pick of the draft and then going there with mcveigh a little bit, he knew that he, if he wants to succeed, he wants to win.
- 4:04Speaker 1: You know, you take the deal right and I just there's not.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Well, who's, who's the one quarterback?
- 4:11Speaker 1: You're gonna pay 55, I'm not doing it.
- 4:13Speaker 1: There's one dude, that's it.
- 4:15Speaker 1: And he's not even the highest paid.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And dad got his deal.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and he played okay.
- 4:24Speaker 1: I mean it's just 60 million dollars guaranteed pretty much every year the next four years.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Enjoy cowboys fans.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Yeah, he finished 19 and 32 for 179 yards.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I mean whoop-dee-doo.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was never a game Cowboys dominated and Deshaun just played terrible.
- 4:51Speaker 1: He was sacked six times, had two interceptions.
- 4:54Speaker 1: I mean he was terrible.
- 4:55Speaker 1: And then the Sunday night game was a good one, the Lions with the 26-20 win over the Rams.
- 5:02Speaker 1: It was an overtime.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yeah, they need to do something about that man, that rule, that overtime rule.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but they weren't allowed to get the ball.
- 5:19Speaker 2: No.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Yeah, they are.
- 5:22Speaker 2: No, I thought the Lions didn't just go right down and score a touchdown.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Once both teams get a chance.
- 5:30Speaker 1: If they must have done it, no, both teams get a chance.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Now, anywho, what stood out most?
- 5:38Speaker 1: What's your biggest overreaction of week one?
- 5:40Speaker 1: Biggest overreaction?
- 5:45Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, week one biggest overreaction yeah, oh man, um, honestly, I'm, I'm gonna have to to go with.
- 5:54Speaker 2: You know just how awful, how awful cleveland looks, man, right like um, I think.
- 5:59Speaker 2: I think the overreaction is star jamisis for week two.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dolphins almost they were looking like they were going to get beat.
- 6:11Speaker 1: The Jags are going down to score a touchdown to go up 24-7.
- 6:14Speaker 1: And then the play of the game.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I mean, but it's the Jags Fumble, you know in the next play.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, 80 yards, touchdown Got him right back in the game.
- 6:27Speaker 1: They were able to kick two more field goals, one at the end by Jason Sanders, 52 yards to end it.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Big win for the Dolphins, which didn't start well.
- 6:39Speaker 1: But two have played well Again, over 300 yards.
- 6:44Speaker 1: No picks.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Have played well again, um, over 300 yards, no picks.
- 6:52Speaker 1: You know, yeah, still another big payday.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Both those guys got paid, you know.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you got the right one, because I mean, trevor lawrence didn't play bad.
- 6:59Speaker 2: I would say yeah no, but I mean I, I don't know, dude, there's only, like I said, the nfl's hard man trevor lawrence, the same as patrick mahomes, like I don't know, but that's what's going on, yeah exactly, um, but like you mentioned, like baker mayfield, you know that's, that's a, that's a mental thing, man he doesn't he doesn't really give a shit about how much money he's getting paid.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Comparatively, $33 million is plenty to live on.
- 7:29Speaker 2: He's trying to win.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Win yeah, you don't win by being the highest paid quarterback at your position.
- 7:36Speaker 1: The Bucs look good.
- 7:37Speaker 1: The Bucs and the Saints look like that.
- 7:40Speaker 1: They're going to you know.
- 7:42Speaker 1: And speaking of bad quarter, overpaid quarterbacks, kirk Cousins, he had nothing to do for Mike Tomlin, the Steelers an ugly win for the Steelers, you know, russell Wilson was out inactive but still wore shoulder pads.
- 7:58Speaker 1: It's just the weirdest guy man.
- 8:02Speaker 2: It really is man, god, and it's like it's such an odd fit, mike Tomlin, like just a guy.
- 8:09Speaker 2: That is just no BS type of coach Bringing the guy.
- 8:13Speaker 2: That is nothing but just extra bullshit.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it wasn't like Justin Fields lit the house on fire, you're not?
- 8:17Speaker 1: Going to light the house on fire, but he didn't mess it up and you don't have to as long as you have.
- 8:22Speaker 1: When you got that defense, let Chris Boswell kick six field goals.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's Steeler, football man.
- 8:31Speaker 1: I mean 18 to 10, six field goals.
- 8:34Speaker 2: God fantasy kicker.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Yep, the Vikings look good, sam Darnold look good.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants look terrible Of course it's the Giants.
- 8:42Speaker 1: But good for Sam Darnold, another guy that I would rather have.
- 8:49Speaker 1: A guy like that, a guy like Sam Darnold or even Jameis at $10 million, right, but those guys are getting that now.
- 9:00Speaker 1: If he goes on to have a good year, they'll pay him more.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Yeah, all right now like if he goes on to have a good year, he'll get, they'll pay him more.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right.
- 9:07Speaker 1: The seahawks, mike uh, the mike mcdonald there is underway with a win over the broncos.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Yeah they got the broncos, huh man.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks uh, harbaugh started off with a win and you know he's he's a good coach man yeah I, he, he's gonna get the guys to be tough and you just see it, the team looks tougher.
- 9:32Speaker 1: It's not the cleanest game, but it's just.
- 9:36Speaker 1: They're not, they're just playing football yeah, yeah and just they.
- 9:40Speaker 1: They've made the plays when they had to.
- 9:42Speaker 1: They didn't make stupid mistakes.
- 9:43Speaker 1: He's going to turn it around, I mean it's just a matter of time.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be good man.
- 9:51Speaker 2: They got a bunch of good players.
- 9:54Speaker 1: I think it's just what.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Herbert needs.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Well, he's going to commit to the running game, right, that's going to help him out a lot and he's going to protect him.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's going to protect him.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to get a huge offensive line and huge guys on the line and he's going to protect his guys.
- 10:07Speaker 2: And I assume that whoever the defensive coordinator is will be better than Staley at figuring out how to take all that talent on defense and make it keep the other team from scoring Right.
- 10:19Speaker 2: It's like Jesus.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Well, I think we touched on them all, all the games.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there was no big Jesus.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Well, I think we touched on them all, all the games.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there was no big like no, it's good to have it back.
- 10:30Speaker 1: No, huge right.
- 10:31Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what surprised me for a while was the Cardinals kind of putting it on Buffalo.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Right, yep, that didn't surprise me.
- 10:39Speaker 2: But they, you know.
- 10:41Speaker 1: They did what they did In the second half.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Kyler Murray showed up.
- 10:43Speaker 1: They did what they did In the second half.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Kyler Murray showed up.
- 10:46Speaker 1: They made the adjustments and he wasn't able to push back.
- 10:48Speaker 2: He didn't do anything in the second half and Josh Allen was able to will his team back because he does it.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to have to kill him.
- 10:57Speaker 1: He might do something stupid, but he's going to keep coming.
- 11:00Speaker 1: It's a big win for the Bills to be able to come back.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean week by week.
- 11:10Speaker 2: You can't.
- 11:10Speaker 2: That's a big.
- 11:13Speaker 1: NFL.
- 11:13Speaker 1: You know there's going to be upsets, but I guess the big one is the Patriots over the Bengals.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you know the ravens had a shot man yeah, and I wouldn't worry.
- 11:25Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about that if I was the ravens I think they're still going to be right there.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Worry about your red zone offensive game calling is you know you?
- 11:33Speaker 1: do have.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Dealers are, and they're the only.
- 11:35Speaker 1: The steelers didn't score a touchdown in first place.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Well, that's the nfl.
- 11:43Speaker 1: We got another one tonight.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Uh, niners jets, yeah, great, yep, we'll talk about that.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Probably never, maybe later in the week maybe you know, um, I'll sure be bitching about it if they lose.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah well, we'll have nfl picks coming up for week two and we'll go over the standings, uh, after we get a chance to look at the tape.
- 12:07Speaker 1: But uh, let's go to college.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Uh, week, let's do it, man.
- 12:12Speaker 1: It was a nice saturday week two of the college football slate stood out.
- 12:18Speaker 1: One right off the top is the upset northern illinois going into south Bend Indiana and beating the Irish, the Irish coming off what was going on the road as an underdog and an SEC opponent and getting a win Right Totally pulled.
- 12:36Speaker 1: You come home, home opener, and they lose to Northern Illinois.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean.
- 12:42Speaker 2: You know Northern Illinois might be good.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Well, that's going to be a bad loss because, with the schedule, notre Dame looked like they would just be coast right into the playoff.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they definitely had to win out.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Oh, I think they definitely have to win out.
- 12:59Speaker 1: I don't even think with two losses with the schedule, if they lose to anybody else, it's over.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Right they put their margin of error back to one because of the schedule, because they're not in a conference.
- 13:09Speaker 1: You can't afford to lose that and you're not playing any studs on the schedule.
- 13:14Speaker 1: Florida state looks like a dud yeah, uh, you might have a shot tech on the schedule.
- 13:21Speaker 1: You got a shot that louisville might be ranked.
- 13:23Speaker 2: It's not yeah but you play them.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Usc looks like they're gonna to be better USC's it.
- 13:27Speaker 1: That's it.
- 13:27Speaker 1: But you've got to win out Well yeah, you're going to have to win out.
- 13:29Speaker 1: You can't afford to lose a game to anybody else.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I mean you would almost rather have lost week one than lose at home.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Right by name, it'd be irreputable.
- 13:42Speaker 2: You lose on the road I think northern illinois is going to end up ranked probably if they go on where that matters, if they go on to win the mac, then yeah, I mean if they go on win the mac and they're undefeated that's not a pushover.
- 13:55Speaker 2: You're looking at them as being one of the g5 teams.
- 13:58Speaker 2: That gets the at large yep, um, but that's a whole bunch of what else you know, michigan had the big day.
- 14:07Speaker 1: They got pushed around.
- 14:09Speaker 1: And they got pushed around just like we thought they would.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Michigan's this isn't last year's Michigan team.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I mean you look at it's going to be a long year yeah, it won't be as long as it was here, but same kind of departures.
- 14:26Speaker 2: You lost a lot of good players to lose two three games, um, maybe more, maybe four games, I don't know, but they'll still go to a bowl yeah it'll be just kind of a down year, but after you win the title, who really gives a shit man?
- 14:42Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, you can accept texas, though they went on the road to big win.
- 14:45Speaker 1: They look like they're ready for the SEC, I guess.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Whatever the hell, that means We'll see when they play.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Yeah, the SEC teams Right, yeah, but they do.
- 14:56Speaker 2: They look good.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Miami took care of business against FAMU.
- 15:01Speaker 1: They look complete.
- 15:04Speaker 1: They have the leader in place.
- 15:08Speaker 2: Got through it healthy.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I mean, that's the best news if you're a coach, colorado man, they don't want to be started on that.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was trying to do, that, that, that.
- 15:21Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to say, like Travis Hunter is.
- 15:24Speaker 1: A freak.
- 15:26Speaker 2: Arguably the Most talented player.
- 15:27Speaker 2: No, he, travis Hunter, is A freak, arguably the Most talented player?
- 15:29Speaker 1: No, he's best weapon.
- 15:30Speaker 1: On offense yeah, you know, plays every down both sides.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Dude.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Like there's no reason to put him on defense.
- 15:37Speaker 2: There's none.
- 15:39Speaker 2: Like he's not changing anything on that side of the ball.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Their problems are not.
- 15:45Speaker 2: We don't have a guy that can lock down a number one receiver.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Their problems are just from front line, all the way to the safety spot.
- 15:55Speaker 2: He's going to do it and he can do it.
- 15:57Speaker 2: And I know why Deion is going to keep doing it.
- 15:59Speaker 2: The NFL's not going to do it.
- 16:01Speaker 2: This kid's not going to be an all-pro wide receiver and all-pro defensive back in the same season.
- 16:06Speaker 2: That shit's not going to be an all-pro wide receiver and all-pro defensive back in the same season.
- 16:07Speaker 2: That shit's not going to happen.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Well, they weren't able to protect Sanders, and he's just a prima donna already.
- 16:13Speaker 2: They weren't able to protect him.
- 16:15Speaker 2: He doesn't do he's good he is.
- 16:19Speaker 2: He doesn't do RPOs properly.
- 16:21Speaker 2: I just don't like it.
- 16:22Speaker 2: He doesn't pull the reads down and run.
- 16:25Speaker 2: That hurts the offense.
- 16:28Speaker 2: The pick six he threw that's one of the worst pick sixes I've ever seen.
- 16:32Speaker 1: Yeah, that was terrible.
- 16:33Speaker 2: From a guy that's touted as a Heisman QB.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I mean you know, I understand that it's the offseason and people love like the TV shows have to build up hype Right.
- 16:45Speaker 2: People love like the TV shows have to build up hype Right.
- 16:47Speaker 2: But like you said, like when I came in here, like you said, dude, I'm taking Cam Ward over him every day of the week, yeah, just based off of two weeks.
- 16:54Speaker 2: Yeah, like dude.
- 16:56Speaker 1: I could not have ever watched Cam Ward play anywhere else I could watch that one video where he's just like talking trash to him at that workout.
- 17:02Speaker 2: And.
- 17:02Speaker 2: I'd be like, I want that guy well, and I mean you, you go into and it's the post game.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Dude, you hear what he says in the post game yep, he sounds like a little spoiled rotten child.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Right, that's your qb yeah, that's that.
- 17:15Speaker 1: That can't, you can't.
- 17:16Speaker 1: He's like.
- 17:16Speaker 1: He sounds like he's throwing your team under the bus.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Oh, it.
- 17:19Speaker 2: That's exactly what he did, and that's what he's doing, um but and it it's.
- 17:23Speaker 2: You know, and you did there all the all.
- 17:26Speaker 2: The Twitter video is out now, like Travis Hunter just melting down at multiple times.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Well, he missed him on the sideline.
- 17:32Speaker 1: There was a few times where I mean he's got a guy on him but like throw it up, right, that's the best player.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Like what are you doing?
- 17:40Speaker 1: And he wants to say, oh, the protection.
- 17:42Speaker 1: But like yeah, you don't, it was there and you did.
- 17:45Speaker 1: But like it was there and you take too long to throw the ball, he does not release it, he doesn't believe in it.
- 17:52Speaker 2: But it's not changing.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Right.
- 17:55Speaker 2: And that was what they hitched their wagons to Nebraska looked good though.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're going to get better.
- 18:03Speaker 2: They got a good football coach.
- 18:04Speaker 1: They got a dude at quarterback finally, that're going to get better.
- 18:06Speaker 1: They got a good football coach.
- 18:07Speaker 1: They got a dude at quarterback.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Finally.
- 18:08Speaker 1: That everybody wanted Right, they got a guy.
- 18:10Speaker 2: What just took Colorado's soul was the running game.
- 18:14Speaker 1: Right yeah.
- 18:15Speaker 2: It was over in the first half because of the running game.
- 18:17Speaker 2: You saw Travis Hunter just tapping out Like I'm not making that tackle, like no, you know, like that's that I mean it.
- 18:27Speaker 2: It took him a year cause they, they embarrassed Nebraska last year.
- 18:30Speaker 1: They put it on him Right, but he got it done at temple.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Dion didn't do anything.
- 18:37Speaker 1: You got it done at temple.
- 18:38Speaker 1: He got it done a Baylor it.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Nfl is a different breed.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Yeah, he got his money now so he can go, and Nebraska's a place where the fan base is loyal as hell.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Right and they're going to have NIL money.
- 18:52Speaker 1: So you have stuff to sell.
- 18:53Speaker 2: And it timed up perfectly, because a guy like Rayola was like.
- 18:57Speaker 1: all he wanted was a reason to go to Nebraska, yep.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Any reason that I can go and just play at Nebraska like my dad and my uncle, and he gave it to them, and so it was lining up really nicely for them.
- 19:08Speaker 2: That kind of leads us now into the Big Ten.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Those fans deserve it.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah, they put up with a lot I mean they really do To see that stadium full, even when they suck it's pretty impressive, you think, for the 90s with Bowden and everything for us and we had the run with Jimbo and everything that came after Bowden was done and all that.
- 19:32Speaker 1: For.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Nebraska, it's been nothing for that whole time since Osborne, it's been just well.
- 19:39Speaker 1: They look better Now.
- 19:41Speaker 1: We'll see what Colorado is as we move into the season.
- 19:45Speaker 1: The Gators got a win against stanford uh, they got to play again.
- 19:51Speaker 2: They got to play the young kid and he looks good right, I know he's considered a good opponent, but yeah, I mean, well, I don't see how you know you don't play him I.
- 20:00Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he didn't.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Why that's the only way you're keeping your job Right.
- 20:06Speaker 2: If he comes in and somehow wins you four or five games and he pops and he looks good.
- 20:09Speaker 1: And you win a few games Because he's not going to stay, he's going to leave.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Yeah, he's there because of the coach, right, and if you know, that may be the only ace he has in his sleeve is that like.
- 20:28Speaker 2: This kid could come out and be like dude.
- 20:29Speaker 2: If you guys fire Napier, I'm out of here.
- 20:30Speaker 2: At this point.
- 20:30Speaker 2: I think that's probably realistic man and I don't think he's going to put Mertz back in.
- 20:35Speaker 2: I don't.
- 20:36Speaker 1: It's the same situation.
- 20:38Speaker 2: They're playing Texas A&M and I think it's on the road right.
- 20:40Speaker 2: They're going to College Station, right.
- 20:42Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could, could, god, it'd just be the dumbest move ever to put mertz back in.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Start mertz especially what a week after a concussion kept him out right I mean, it's the I see what the young guy has right, I mean he's not like dude.
- 20:59Speaker 2: He he's a gamer.
- 21:00Speaker 2: He's not going to go out there and be afraid it's.
- 21:02Speaker 2: It's just all about the mistakes that he's going to make and the team around him.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Right um, it's going to rally the team honestly when you play, yeah, but I know a team that should do the same is?
- 21:11Speaker 2: is it gonna?
- 21:12Speaker 2: Is rallying the team going to be enough to get the win?
- 21:15Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see that's really what it's going to come down to.
- 21:18Speaker 2: I don't think tess is saying it was very good so all right.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Well, that's uh week two around the college football world.
- 21:26Speaker 1: It was an off week for FSU, but we're going to talk about it and we're going to see what the hell is going on.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Tons of losses, even though it was an off week.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I'm goddamn madder than shit Still, and then Lucas out for the year.
- 21:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a bummer man.
- 21:47Speaker 2: He's like the only kid that looked like worth watching on offense, Basically.
- 21:53Speaker 1: You got Destin Hill, now Lucas out for the year.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Right, it's not losing recruits left and right.
- 22:01Speaker 2: It is falling off a cliff.
- 22:04Speaker 1: You have got to like there's gonna rally the troops right.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I mean you know it, try to do whatever you can with this season.
- 22:13Speaker 2: I think the sooner he starts just putting young kids, you're not getting a bit.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Yeah, people are gonna rail on you and it's not fair and you think about it, but life's not fair and it's not fair.
- 22:25Speaker 1: But you guys, you guys crapped out of your a chance last year and then your biggest game of the year you got.
- 22:31Speaker 1: You rolled out there with you're not even your damn team and you got embarrassed, you got embarrassed on the national scene that wasn't the biggest game of the year well in
- 22:41Speaker 1: the public's eye and like the college football season, you know you ended the finale of what should have been a team that deserved a chance to fight for a championship, a program that did, and this is the after effects of it, and I know this team probably would have been bad anyway.
- 22:57Speaker 1: But that makes you press man, that makes you bring in oh, we got to go get this guy.
- 23:03Speaker 1: We got to try to do this again.
- 23:04Speaker 1: And you can't hit on those kind of guys or you can't just pay guys, like they did, to come back to be guys they've never proven to be.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Right, I mean you got to know what you have.
- 23:19Speaker 2: And if all these coaches and everything, really thought these guys were.
- 23:24Speaker 1: You said the worst is yet to come, right, and that's scary.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just losses piling up, but I mean, at some point, once you know your team sucks like who who cares?
- 23:39Speaker 2: Like you know you're gonna lose most of the games this year, but this year's already lost because you know your team is is not good, um, feel no favored.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hey, man, that makes money.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Right, they want that action coming in in Vegas.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Man, that I just I have my own thoughts on what, what he needs to do.
- 24:03Speaker 1: What does he need to do?
- 24:04Speaker 2: Just exact repeat of of what he did in the transfer portal in terms of aggressiveness.
- 24:10Speaker 1: What does he need to do right now?
- 24:12Speaker 1: What can you do for this team right now?
- 24:14Speaker 1: What do you do?
- 24:15Speaker 1: Do you sit DJ?
- 24:18Speaker 2: I wouldn't play him at all.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Right, what's the point?
- 24:20Speaker 2: You have him as the backup, say.
- 24:24Speaker 2: You put Brock Leonard and he gets hurt.
- 24:25Speaker 2: All right, we'll go back with DJ, unless we're already down enough to where.
- 24:29Speaker 2: What shit.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Luke's got four games before he burns a red shirt.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Let's see what he's got Right At this point.
- 24:36Speaker 2: You know what DJ is.
- 24:38Speaker 2: You know what your offensive line is.
- 24:40Speaker 2: You know it's never going to work, it's.
- 24:42Speaker 2: You know they can't run the ball.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Even with five and six men in the box, nobody is respecting DJ's arm.
- 24:53Speaker 2: They have to be better than this.
- 24:54Speaker 1: I mean they might be.
- 24:55Speaker 1: You've got to think now that the fire is being thrown on them.
- 24:58Speaker 1: You've got to go look in the mirror.
- 25:01Speaker 1: You've got to study your opponent.
- 25:03Speaker 1: Look across that ball who you're matched up against, and be like this guy's not beating me today, I don't care about anything else.
- 25:11Speaker 1: Yeah, and player by player.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Florida state should not be this bad.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to stop pressing and come together they, they should.
- 25:21Speaker 2: I mean, they have better players than this.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Um, they just don't play together as a team at all, they don't they'd lack leadership.
- 25:28Speaker 1: They don't, yeah, they don't play good.
- 25:29Speaker 1: There's no leaders on this team.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Who's going to step up?
- 25:32Speaker 2: Well, there are leaders on the team, but it's guys that have also spent the past few years, you know, also flirting with the transfer portal.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Right, guys that were, you know, giving the money, the retention money, or whatnot that probably would have been wiser to spend elsewhere whatnot that?
- 25:53Speaker 2: probably, and they're wiser to spend elsewhere, and you know, I think that's yeah, unless they prove me wrong and step up and and and you know, play like they've actually earned whatever rumored money that they're making I'm more worried about spending and going and getting the quarterback you got.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Not that you went and got a quarterback, but that's not even the guy that costs money, man, like they got dj on a on a reduced rate in terms of going out and getting a former five-star quarterback like it.
- 26:18Speaker 1: Well, you got to get the right ones and he's not.
- 26:20Speaker 1: No, I mean you got to move on yeah, you know you got to.
- 26:24Speaker 2: You got to read, rebuild the entire team.
- 26:26Speaker 2: First of all you, because you're not going to have anything from the high school ranks that's going to come in and provide any kind of huge boost immediately.
- 26:35Speaker 2: So you're going to be back in the porter looking for frontline starters next year and you got to just kind of go from there and do a much better job of evaluating.
- 26:47Speaker 1: I'm going to beat the shit out of you.
- 26:49Speaker 2: You know, know, I mean, I'll put it this way If Mike Norvell is the coach and he's comfortable here In the year of 2027, I'll be fucking shocked.
- 27:03Speaker 1: Damn.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Because of it's just kind of how it goes.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Man Like you get very small windows Most college football yeah and he's got shat on Right and shut on Right, and now it's like kind of how it goes man like you get very small windows, most college football coaches get, and he's got shat on right and shut on right and now it's like well, put it back open.
- 27:17Speaker 2: And it's like just got slammed on my face, my hands and they got cut off yeah, um, I think he had the wit, the opportunity he had to like keep the thing rolling per se and maybe have this be a winning season was very, very tiny window right, and it didn't pay off last year and it made them have there's a feeling that there's something to prove or more to get, and it wasn't that type of team right.
- 27:40Speaker 2: This was a rebuild year well, you know, they took a gamble man and they didn't.
- 27:44Speaker 2: The player retention thing worked for them.
- 27:46Speaker 1: They didn't piece together this roster correctly right.
- 27:49Speaker 2: The player retention thing worked for them in the first.
- 27:52Speaker 2: The first couple years they did it with this go around.
- 27:55Speaker 2: It didn't seem.
- 27:55Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it's gonna really get you much, so you got to scrap that and go get all new players can't run the ball and stop the run I mean there's there's, there's that there's more problems in there that we can get into dude and catch the ball?
- 28:12Speaker 2: It comes down to developmental lapses in some areas, in some positions that need to be restaffed.
- 28:19Speaker 1: And it's just.
- 28:20Speaker 1: You know, we haven't had a D tackle.
- 28:23Speaker 1: I mean, we had the transfers, we had Fisk, but where's the last one that we brought in?
- 28:28Speaker 1: I?
- 28:29Speaker 2: mean the last real guy.
- 28:31Speaker 2: The NFL guy that Odell recruited and put in is Naughty.
- 28:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:37Speaker 2: And that's what, like eight years ago, Seven, six, I don't know man.
- 28:42Speaker 1: It might be time and something's got to be done.
- 28:45Speaker 1: We're losing recruits.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Something's got to be done.
- 28:47Speaker 1: But it's got to start with a win, I think you got to.
- 28:52Speaker 1: You got to change the culture.
- 28:53Speaker 1: You got to.
- 28:54Speaker 2: You got to respond right because it's what I'm going to say, what I'm going to say about these recruits, the, the few that have flipped um, these last two that are going to texas like these are kids that as long as you were winning, you were going to have a shot at signing on signing day.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Yeah, that has not really gone well for Florida State, even when we've won.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Those are the kids that, for whatever reason, end up just going elsewhere, a couple of these other kids that are about to publicly decommit are going to be the kind of kids that really suck to lose that.
- 29:29Speaker 2: They had a shot at signing.
- 29:30Speaker 2: You know, no matter what, as long as you had a good season, they're, they're locked in, but you guys fall off a cliff right, you guys looking like you do, has brought in some power programs back into the mix and hey, yeah, they actually might have a point right and you know those are the ones that are killers, god but it at this point none of it matters, because he's gonna have to go like you could sign the best class in america high school and still come in next year and have a losing season like right, you gotta hit the portal again.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Right, you gotta hit it better proven college football players, guys that can actually play.
- 30:08Speaker 2: They don't all have to be one-year mercenaries.
- 30:11Speaker 2: You can get multiple level and multiple-year transfers.
- 30:14Speaker 2: You got.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson, you got Jordan Travis.
- 30:17Speaker 1: These are guys that were transfers with multiple years.
- 30:20Speaker 2: Fabian Lovett.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Guys like that, jerry and Jones, so you go get freshmen, that are there, not even necessarily freshmen you get a sophomore, a guy that's been in his.
- 30:32Speaker 1: it can be done before you got to hope for that.
- 30:34Speaker 1: But I just want to see more.
- 30:36Speaker 1: I I want to see a little bit of dadgum heart man and see passion, and not some drop balls and there's got.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I mean they, they I've, let's see, let's see like the best they can play.
- 30:47Speaker 1: You think that might happen one time, maybe, maybe maybe all at once.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Um you get kids that may have the talent and don't necessarily try hard Every single snap, maybe trying hard Every single.
- 31:00Speaker 2: I mean, how do you remember COVID?
- 31:01Speaker 2: We beat UNC.
- 31:02Speaker 2: It's the same kind of thing Like where did that team?
- 31:07Speaker 2: Come from, came out and put it on a top five.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Well, we got to get on out of here, man, yeah, yeah, where's that effort?
- 31:17Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it'll come out and I'm still hoping for that Individual games that you can bring it.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Two or three wins, man.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you just need to go.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Shoot, just don't know where.
- 31:29Speaker 2: Just get that one.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Just get the first where.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Let's get that one, let's get the first one.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Syracuse looks good.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Everybody looks good compared to us.
- 31:36Speaker 1: I mean that bull crap.
- 31:37Speaker 1: I was talking about Georgia Tech being.
- 31:41Speaker 2: They're the same.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Georgia Tech Tops eight and four, Like that might be their peak.
- 31:46Speaker 1: We'll wait until you see who, boston College, how they turn out.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Dead man, oh yeah, a bunch of ACC sucks.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that you do.
- 31:58Speaker 1: It's to rank NC State.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Okay, why?
- 32:01Speaker 1: Well, we've got to have some.
- 32:02Speaker 1: We've got to draw viewers to this big primetime spot.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what Like.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Why was that ever a primetime game?
- 32:11Speaker 2: Because they were ranked.
- 32:14Speaker 1: They were just going to shit all over the ACC now.
- 32:18Speaker 2: That's my fear.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Is us locking into a guy like Dave Dorn?
- 32:23Speaker 2: It was just like at least Norvell went 13.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Say what you will about him, but at least he's not Dave Dorn and topping out at nine wins every year, no matter what.
- 32:38Speaker 1: That looks like a long way away.
- 32:43Speaker 2: You've got a special season, that's true.
- 32:46Speaker 1: All right.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Well, we've got Memphis.
- 32:48Speaker 1: Florida State has Memphis.
- 32:49Speaker 1: They're still a five-point favorite.
- 32:51Speaker 1: We're going to break that down.
- 32:52Speaker 1: We're going to come up with some bets, we're going to swing it around.
- 32:56Speaker 1: All the top games, look forward to them, NFL college, and then we'll do our NFL picks later this week, Probably pick the big college games as well and a preview show yeah.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Let it oh God.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Yeah, let it out, man, let it out.
- 33:16Speaker 1: Woosah, it's going to be all right, man, just a game man.
- 33:22Speaker 2: Baseball team picking up some stubs.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:26Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, man, like $12 million for this roster.
- 33:30Speaker 2: I would have liked to have done it.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they've got to spend the money better, but we'll watch the games.
- 33:35Speaker 2: We'll look forward to the games 30-point-per-game win and we'll preview them.
- 33:38Speaker 1: And that'll be next time Right here on the North Florida Sports Network.
- 33:43Speaker 1: I'm goddamn mad at her shit.