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Interview with NY Rangers Former GM Neil Smith · Motor City Mad Mouth

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  Speaker 1: Goodying, everybody. Welcome doing another edition of the Show of Champions,
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  Speaker 1: a MotorCity man Mouth show. My name is Scott Morgan
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  Speaker 1: Rock the MotorCity man Mouth. And when I say the
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  Speaker 1: show up champion, really seriously, really, I've got one across here.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Neil Smith, by the way, the architect
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  Speaker 1: of the general manager of the nineteen ninety four Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Cup champion, the New York Rangers. I actually called Neil Smith.
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  Speaker 1: His nicknames are actually considered theo Epstein, Okay, and then
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  Speaker 1: we can also call him David Copperfield. He knows what
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Neil, Welcome to the big show.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks. It's great to be on here with the MotorCity
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  Speaker 2: mad Mouth and I really look forward to this.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a blast. If he can't have a
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  Speaker 1: blast on this show, then I must be wearing the
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  Speaker 1: Dunce cap. And no, I'm not gonna have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of big names on her. You're just the latest. I'm
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  Speaker 1: certainly looking forward to doing a lot more broadcast, So there,
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  Speaker 1: for sure, Neil, and some of those little surprises of
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  Speaker 1: Detroit you through me are even beautiful as well. But
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  Speaker 1: before we go into some of the topics. Neil, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to talk about your wrap Around podcast of
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  Speaker 1: what you do with that particular show.
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  Speaker 2: Well, NHL wrap Around is a show that I do
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  Speaker 2: with Vic More and we have four or five different
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  Speaker 2: franchises within NHL wrap Around. Our main show has great
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  Speaker 2: guests on. We we bring on a guest it could
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  Speaker 2: be anybody from Wayne Gretzky to Mark Messier to Bill
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  Speaker 2: Day to somebody who's current at the time and can
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  Speaker 2: speak to a subject that's current during the season. And
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  Speaker 2: so we've had a lot of great people on. You
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  Speaker 2: can check it out on NHL Wraparound dot com. And
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  Speaker 2: we're growing, and you know, we're just like everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: We want to subscribe, subscribe, subscribe.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, just three or four million of these things out there.
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  Speaker 1: You ever realized there'd be so much competition out there
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  Speaker 1: with all the stuff going on. Even Don Cherry did
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  Speaker 1: a podcast they just finally got rid of. We we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into Don Cherry another we'll talk about it another night.
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  Speaker 1: But he even figure out what the word podcast on
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  Speaker 1: Don Cherry Hockey Night Canada. He did one, So now
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  Speaker 1: were doing it right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's mainstream now and that when I
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  Speaker 2: got into podcasting. I didn't know that how mainstream podcasting
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  Speaker 2: had gotten to and that makes it a lot easier
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  Speaker 2: to get people to come on your show when it's
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  Speaker 2: so mainstream. I have a lot of friends obviously in
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  Speaker 2: the hockey business, and so it's not difficult for me
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  Speaker 2: to call people and ask them and usually they're kind
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  Speaker 2: enough to come on. But you know, it was only
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  Speaker 2: a few years back when I remember that podcasts were
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  Speaker 2: sort of two guys in their basement on their couch,
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  Speaker 2: just talking about the team that they loved, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. It's definitely surreal thing. I wrote my
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  Speaker 1: book Lessons on the Microphone based on the premise that
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  Speaker 1: it is old school media versus new school media, but
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  Speaker 1: podcasting isn't. Is the f SEC Federal Communications Storasion, which
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  Speaker 1: is how I grew up in a business back in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine when I got in and I worked
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  Speaker 1: for WXYZ Radio, which I'm sure you're all too familiar
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  Speaker 1: with back in Detroit, and you were there anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: I work with a lot of interesting Detroit people that
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  Speaker 1: will probably get into it another time. All right, So
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  Speaker 1: with that said, let's continue about the National Hockey League
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  Speaker 1: per se. Okay, I'm going to give you. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to ask you to describe these individuals in just a
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  Speaker 1: few words, and I want you to do the best
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  Speaker 1: you can with that. Gordy Howe, how would you describe them?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the greatest power forward, skilled player and yet vicious.
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  Speaker 2: He could beat you in the alley and he could
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  Speaker 2: beat you on the ice. He was certainly the start
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  Speaker 2: of what we coveted in the league, which was guys
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  Speaker 2: that could not only take care of themselves, take care
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  Speaker 2: of their teammates, but score goals and get assists and
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  Speaker 2: be a leader. He was the whole package.
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Gretty and now this is a two part question.
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  Speaker 1: They gave me a description, how do you describe and
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you with a follow up, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne Gretzky's a guy that's had one of the
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  Speaker 2: first players that I ever saw that instinctively knew spatial
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  Speaker 2: awareness better than anybody else. He knew where everybody was
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  Speaker 2: around him, he knew where to go, he knew where
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  Speaker 2: the puck would end up going, and he just had
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  Speaker 2: an awareness on the ice that nobody else had. And
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  Speaker 2: I saw him play in Hartford one night when he
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  Speaker 2: was with Edmonton. I was scouting the game and I
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  Speaker 2: wrote on my report that it wasn't even fair when
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  Speaker 2: he was on the ice because there were so many
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  Speaker 2: scoring chances for Edmonton. He was just a machine and
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  Speaker 2: you know, the greatest offensive player certainly in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, second part of the question, does he sets scoring
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  Speaker 1: records in the old NHL, because you know how well
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  Speaker 1: that was a brutal league. It really was when he
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  Speaker 1: had the Original Six, the twelve games, and the physicality
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  Speaker 1: was just unbelievable. Me personally, I've always thought he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get that many points. But I'm just an outsider. I
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  Speaker 1: would I'll trust your opinion far more than I'll trust mine, don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he could have, but I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: that he could have even played in the Original six.
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  Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is because you know,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't have any There wasn't any skinny guys in
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  Speaker 2: the original six, guys that couldn't fight. Everybody fought everybody.
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  Speaker 2: There was no guys that didn't fight. And Wayne came
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  Speaker 2: into the league and I think he got in one
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  Speaker 2: fight in his career. If I'm not mistaken with Neil
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  Speaker 2: Broughton one night, but he was a guy that was
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  Speaker 2: protected by Samenco and Messier and others on the oilers
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  Speaker 2: and could go about and do his magic. I find
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  Speaker 2: it really hard, Scott to put players in different eras
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  Speaker 2: because what they do is they they play in their
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  Speaker 2: era and they do the best they can do in
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  Speaker 2: that era. And so Bobby, you are the same way,
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  Speaker 2: Gordy how the same way. They can be judged on
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  Speaker 2: their era, and really hard to think about if they
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  Speaker 2: played in a different era because the game keeps changing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're one hundred percent right, you really can't.
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  Speaker 1: But let's face reality. The guy you talked about, Gordia
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  Speaker 1: Hall has a Gordialla hat trick. Right? Was it a
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  Speaker 1: goal of system of fight? Right? So? I mean I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many of those when Gretzky had, But
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  Speaker 1: Gordia How is the one who originated the term to
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  Speaker 1: begin with, Gordiallia hatrick. Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that I don't think Wayne ever
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  Speaker 2: had a Gordia hell hat trick. I think he had
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  Speaker 2: many hat tricks and many Gretzky patricks, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he had ever had a Gordi hell hat trick.
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  Speaker 1: Good. Thanks for making my point. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Mind thinking, I'll guarantee by the end of the show
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  Speaker 1: you'll know a GMTA stance or and you're a quick study.
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  Speaker 1: To begin with, Alex Ovechkin, what comes to mind?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, just a guy who loves to score goals more
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  Speaker 2: than anybody I think I've ever watched. He loves to
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  Speaker 2: score goals. A terrific, strong bowl of a man. He
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  Speaker 2: was more in the Gordy Howe type of uh embodiment
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  Speaker 2: than certainly than a Wayne Gretzky. He could play physical,
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  Speaker 2: he could scare you, he could rock you. But the
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  Speaker 2: one thing that he can really do and still does
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  Speaker 2: to this day, is he can score goals. But Scott,
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  Speaker 2: he still loves to score. Like his face lights up
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  Speaker 2: when he scores. It's not a it's not the nine
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  Speaker 2: hundredth goal, it's it's like it was the first one
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  Speaker 2: he'd scored. So just a just a tremendous goal scorer.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Mario Wmeu. But we have a two
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  Speaker 1: parter here. First of all, give me your observation with
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  Speaker 1: the first part of it.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Mariel Lemu play in junior and scouted him
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  Speaker 2: and he came up to the draft of people doubted him.
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  Speaker 2: Some people because he was in the Quebec League and
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  Speaker 2: getting a gazillion points in the Quebec League and they
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  Speaker 2: thought that wouldn't equate into the NHL. But for a
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  Speaker 2: real big man, and I mean a big man, a
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  Speaker 2: six foot five, six ft every was six foot five.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the dexterity that he had and
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  Speaker 2: the ability on to handle the puck and do things
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  Speaker 2: with the puck. We're just amazing. And I guess the
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  Speaker 2: thing that you should remember most about Mario is he
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  Speaker 2: had cancer and missed a full season with cancer treatments
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  Speaker 2: and came back and was the best player in the
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  Speaker 2: league the next season. I mean, to me, that's uncanny.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he's just what they called him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he was just a marvelous player.
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  Speaker 1: Well here's the second part of it. And I think
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  Speaker 1: this is just unbelievable. Beyond a cancer situation, he saved
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  Speaker 1: hockey in Pittsburgh when that franchise was bank That isn't
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  Speaker 1: bigger than his goal scoring achievement. Find me something is
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  Speaker 1: you saved hockey in that particular area. And now I
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  Speaker 1: understand he may want to get back in to ownership there,
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  Speaker 1: but tell me what your thoughts about what he did
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  Speaker 1: as far as his ownership is concerned, because if it
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  Speaker 1: weren't for Mary Olmew, there would not be any Sydney Trothby.
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  Speaker 2: I think he saved Pittsburgh Penguins twice. I think he
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  Speaker 2: saved it when he came in as a rookie. They
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  Speaker 2: were they were playing in a building that was half
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  Speaker 2: empty all the time, and he came in and the
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  Speaker 2: magnificent And then he saved it when he was owed
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money in deferred payments from his career
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  Speaker 2: and took that money and actually, you know, took ownership
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  Speaker 2: of the Penguins and had them survive in Pittsburgh when they,
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  Speaker 2: as you said, they were bankrupt. There was a Canadian
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  Speaker 2: trying to move the team to Hamilton, trying to buy
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  Speaker 2: it and move it, and Mario was able to keep
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  Speaker 2: it in Pittsburgh. And now they got that beautiful pp
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  Speaker 2: G arena and and it's it's just it's a great franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really has. I've won Stanley Cups and all that,
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  Speaker 1: and more power to them. That is an excellent franchise.
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  Speaker 1: And they managed to keep on winning. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: Scotty Bowman. What comes your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Scotty Bowman was a master of being on the
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  Speaker 2: on the right teams, having the right players. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's he's iconic. He coached those four Montreal Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 2: teams four in a row, won the Stanley Cup with
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  Speaker 2: Scotty Bowman. That was a feat that's only been done
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  Speaker 2: by a couple of teams. And then he went on
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  Speaker 2: to win again in Pittsburgh. He won Stanley Cupp as
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  Speaker 2: the head coach, and then went on again to win
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  Speaker 2: Stanley Cupps in Detroit as the head coach. So Scotty Bowman,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about winners, there's no greater winner
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  Speaker 2: than Scotty Bowman.
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  Speaker 1: Well there's one right now. You. You're the one who
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  Speaker 1: pulled it off in nineteen ninety four when you won
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  Speaker 1: with the New York Rangers. Neil Smith, the nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 1: four general manager, I said, I called you David Copperfield
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  Speaker 1: before theo Epstein. People like that that go out there
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  Speaker 1: and break long droughts with big franchises certainly deserve those
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  Speaker 1: type of comparisons. I am going to compare to you
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  Speaker 1: THEO Epstein will get in the Hall of Fame because
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  Speaker 1: what he did with the Cubbies in the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 1: But what you did it was unbelievable. With New York,
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  Speaker 1: that's not an easy place to win over at Madison
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  Speaker 1: Square Garden. I've never been there. It's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: my bucket lists to go to Madison Square Garden. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you and I can see a game there. Who knows,
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  Speaker 1: give me up here worthy day. I'd love to go
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  Speaker 1: up there just to see one hockey game, hang out
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  Speaker 1: with you and Kenny Albert, even you. But tell me
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  Speaker 1: what it was like to construct that team. And you
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  Speaker 1: had Mike Keenan, who's probably one of the most challenging
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  Speaker 1: coaches to work with. I don't know if that's politely
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  Speaker 1: saying it, but you managed to win it with Iron Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I was there eleven years, and during my
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  Speaker 2: first four years, we were building towards trying to you know,
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  Speaker 2: trying to being a winning franchise and trying to change
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  Speaker 2: the culture of the Rangers. And we were able to
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  Speaker 2: do that. And one move that completely changed the franchise
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  Speaker 2: was Mark Messier came in and completely turned the thing around.
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  Speaker 2: His leadership was unbelievable. We ended up after my fourth year,
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  Speaker 2: we made a coaching change and I decided that the
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  Speaker 2: stars that we had on the team, we had so
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  Speaker 2: many stars on that team that we needed somebody like
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  Speaker 2: a Scottie Bowman, like an al Arbor or Mike Keenan
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  Speaker 2: to come in who had handled big players, star players,
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  Speaker 2: ego players and be able to get them to all
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  Speaker 2: come together for the cause, which was to win. And
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  Speaker 2: sure enough, Mike Keenan did it. So whether I like Mike,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I like him today, but whether I liked
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  Speaker 2: him back then or I didn't like him, he got
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  Speaker 2: it done. And that's really all that I wanted at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the reality is is you want to President's Trophy,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a tough. Now, when teams win President's Trophy,
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  Speaker 1: they're not necessarily guaranteed going to win the Cup. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you proved that you were the best team all year long,
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  Speaker 1: not only in the regular season but also in the
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  Speaker 1: Stanley in the playoffs because you managed to pull out
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  Speaker 1: the double double winning the President's and the Cup and
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  Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup. I'll proud of you are what that
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  Speaker 1: particular accomplishment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we won two President's Trophies we wanted in ninety two,
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  Speaker 2: and then again in ninety four, and then as you said,
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  Speaker 2: and then we're able to put the cup on top
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  Speaker 2: of the President's Trophy in ninety four. I'm very proud
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  Speaker 2: of that. It's a great accomplishment. And this year, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the last year the President's Trophy was the Rangers, if
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  Speaker 2: you remember, and then this year they completely fell apart.
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  Speaker 2: This year's President's Trophy team was the Winnipeg Jets, and
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  Speaker 2: Winnipeg wasn't able to get past the second round in
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs. They went down. It's you know what I
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  Speaker 2: compare it to Scott is it's it's like running the
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  Speaker 2: uh you know, short races, the hurdles and and the
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  Speaker 2: sprints you run. You you you run a marathon all
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  Speaker 2: season long. It's a long, long marathon. You keep going,
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  Speaker 2: keep going. Now, if you win the marathon, you should
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  Speaker 2: be really proud of yourself. Right, You've gone through this
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  Speaker 2: exhausting six months of hell. Now all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: they tell you, okay, good, you won that. Now let's
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  Speaker 2: start the sprints. You got a sprint? Can you you know,
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  Speaker 2: can you beat these other guys in a sprint? Because
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  Speaker 2: you got to win four games out of seven. If
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  Speaker 2: you lose two and you lose two more, guess what,
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  Speaker 2: that marathon doesn't matter anymore. All that matters is these sprints.
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  Speaker 2: And so there are two different events, completely different events,
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  Speaker 2: and to be good at both is really hard for
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  Speaker 2: a team.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you know, I've always thought that Stanley
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  Speaker 1: Cup the toughest throws to win in all of sports.
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  Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, you talk about the grind
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  Speaker 1: of winning sixteen games. I know, many years ago you
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  Speaker 1: only had to win eighth, but now that you have
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  Speaker 1: much more tiers with fourteen and all that. But let's
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  Speaker 1: not tell us I think that's the best playoffs on
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  Speaker 1: the planet because you have the overtimes to goal forever
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  Speaker 1: and the intensity and these guys are playing as hard
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  Speaker 1: as they can. In fact, Charlo Barkley went on record
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  Speaker 1: says and said the one of the reasons that he
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  Speaker 1: likes hockey is because there's no load management. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think of a guy like Charlie Barkley
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  Speaker 1: says out there, I love hockey because there's no load management.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great that he would say that,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that hockey is a totally different sport
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  Speaker 2: than certainly than his sport than basketball, where it's it's
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  Speaker 2: totally different the way the players are treated, the way
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  Speaker 2: the players act, the way the players function, and I
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  Speaker 2: think in the NHL and hockey in general, there's a
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  Speaker 2: culture that you know what, you're gonna get banged up,
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get bruised up, and you got to get
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  Speaker 2: back out there and play again the next night, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: back to back games. You know, baseball plays every day
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  Speaker 2: all season long, almost, but they don't get banged up
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  Speaker 2: and hit into the boards and knocked over and all that.
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  Speaker 2: They get injuries, but they don't get the type that
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  Speaker 2: hockey gets, and they don't play with the physicality that
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  Speaker 2: hockey plays with. So yeah, I agree with you, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it is no load management is the best
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  Speaker 2: way to put it, because there is there is no
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  Speaker 2: You got to just manage to play every game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the way these guys play. When you
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  Speaker 1: talk about doctors, the only ones you're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: dentists that probably get rich by what well mouth injuries
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  Speaker 1: and all the teeth they have to replace. So let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about another thing I know you're very proud of too,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, and that's the fact that you were with
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  Speaker 1: the Red Wings for seven years. Tell me what that
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  Speaker 1: experience was like from start to finish.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it was a wonderful experience. First of all, the
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  Speaker 2: Yellich family is a wonderful people. Mike and Mary and
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  Speaker 2: Ella shit own the team. Bought the team in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty two. I got there shortly after they bought it.
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  Speaker 2: They bought it from the Norris family, and right away
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  Speaker 2: they started to make Joe Louis Arena a nicer arena.
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  Speaker 2: They started to put money into the Red Wings and
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  Speaker 2: started to make it first class. Jimmy Devlano went there
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  Speaker 2: as their first general manager and did a good job
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  Speaker 2: of trying to build a foundation for that team. I
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  Speaker 2: was the chief scout of the team, and I was
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  Speaker 2: fortunate enough to get some real good picks during my
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  Speaker 2: time there, and we were able to get a lot
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: of good players that went on actually to serve them
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: after I was gone. Because in our nineteen eighty nine draft,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: which was my last draft as chief scout, we picked
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Mike Sillinger, Bob Bugner, Nicholas Lidstrom, Sergei feder Off, Dallas Drake,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and Vladimir Constantinov all in the same draft, no kidding,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: So that set them up for a long time. And
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: you know what, they're just a great, great franchise. They
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: haven't always been great. I mean back in the dark
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: days in the seventies, they weren't. You'll remember that they
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: weren't so great. But in the in the days of
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: uh uh now and and and I know they've missed
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: the playoffs a number of years now, but they made
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: it for twenty five straight years, So they're a very
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: proud franchise. I think Stevie Eiserman's doing a good job
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: as GM.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's no question he had a tough job. I mean,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: twenty five years, are not getting any picks very high. Now,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: let's make it Mike Gillich won three when he can
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: spend as much money as he want. But when he
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: got the salary Kevin and even out a little bit,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: they managed to win one. But it's not the same
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: when you're forced, when the playing feels a little bit.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Even when you can buy anything you want, and hockey
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: is a big bargain of the four major sports, Let's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: not get yourself. It's not like you're buying the championship
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: in baseball, hockey is a little bit different animals. Your
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: munerals are substantially less.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You're right, and and and but the but the illag
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: has got to be credited with building a great culture
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: within the Red Wings organization and and uh a place
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: where players wanted to play. Not only did they get
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: paid well, but I think that they enjoyed their time
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: with the Red Wings and the way that they were
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: treated by the organization. And that starts with Mike and
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: maryon Elich, Chris Ilich, the son who now runs it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: They're just real good people.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the state of the Red Wings
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: right now. Obviously we just began to talk about a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: little bit about it in a bit of a rebuild
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: A little bit short. They've got Tod McClellan as their coach. Now,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: how far away do you think to day or do
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you think they have a chance to make the playoffs
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: this year?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I think they should be right on right in that
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: wild card chase this year. I thought they should have
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: been last year. To be honest with you, I was
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: a little bit disappointed that they weren't closer to making
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it than they were. I thought they should be. I
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: think this year coming up is a really important year
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: for Eiserman and McClellan because they've got to show the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: fans that they're making progress. You can't stay still and
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: keep the fans happy. So I think this is a
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: big year for them. I think that they're going to
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: show some strides. I think they've done some good things
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and they've got a good coach.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the team that resides in
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: my backyard. The Florida Panthers won two in a row.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: You think they have a shot at winning three. They
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: certainly maintained a lot of their core players. I think
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the only question mark after this year will be Sergei Bobrovsky,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: who obviously has a year left. But they were able
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to maintain a lot of their core players.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting, Scott that you mentioned Bobrovsky because
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: he is older now. He's not a young guy, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you wonder when you're going to see that age start
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to creep into his game. Certainly, Florida is the odds
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: on favorite to win a third Stanley Cup when we're
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: talking in July, but anything can happen during the season.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I think that Bill Zito has done a remarkable job
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: with the Florida Panthers, the guys that he's gotten, the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: holes that he's filled. Every time they lose a guy
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and you think they might have to take a step backwards,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: they get somebody else that fills in even better. He
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: went and signed his most important guys in ek Blatt
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and Marshawan and Sam Bennett already in the off season
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and made sure that his course stayed in place. So
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I think if Babrowski can continue to play the way
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: he's been playing, which is suspect because of his age,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: only because of his age, and if they can, you know,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: stay away from the injury bug like every team has to,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I think they do have a good chance to win
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: three in a row. I called them to win this
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: year and last year, so I was I really like
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the Florida Panthers. They play playoff hockey all season long.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, palm resed a heck of a job. Obviously, also
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: want to aggest to the Panthers, and he has all
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the resources here. He doesn't have one in in Winnipeg,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: so at least be another question. Canada hasn't won a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Stanley cupaneers can he.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Explain that, Well, they haven't won since nineteen ninety three
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: when Montreal Canadians one, right, and they they've they've not
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: been you know, real close at all. I mean, Vancouver
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: played against US for the Stanley Cup in ninety four.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: There have been Edmonton's obviously played the last two years
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in a row against Florida. They've had shots at it,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: but they haven't been able to do it. There's only
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: seven teams in Canada and there is uh, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: twenty five in the United States. So the odds are
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: against the Canadian teams. But at some point you would
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: think that one of these teams, whether it be Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: somebody's got to win it sooner or later. And when
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: they do, the whole country I'll go mad because they're
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: they're tired of waiting. Twenty seven years now.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I canitely imagine. Let's talk about the current situation with
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the New York Rangers. They've brought in Mike Slivan to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: see the answer out in broad at Broadway. It's going
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: to be a much tougher situation based in the media
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: in New York than it was in Pittsburgh.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Well, and he the thing is is that Drury and
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: David Quinn, who he brought in as an assistant coach
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: who was the head coach of the Rangers at one time,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and Mike Sullivan are all Boston guys. They're all friends
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: from the from you know, Beantown, and it's sort of
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: like a little mob there going. I don't think their
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: team is good enough. I think that they've dismantled that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: what was a pretty good team. And I don't know
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that Mike Sullivan or for that matter, David Copperfield could
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: make this team win. I think that it's just I
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: just don't think they have the horses. And I think
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Mike Sullivan has something to prove too, in that he
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: hasn't made the playoffs in what has it been three
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: straight seasons in Pittsburgh. Now you can say he didn't
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: have the players, true, but can't. You can't give him
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a pass just because you don't give anybody else a pass.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: So we'll see how he does this year. They seem
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: to change coaches every two years. They had Jerry Gollan,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: who had a couple of hundred point seasons, they fired him.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Then they had Laviolette come in and have a President's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Trophy and then this year crap the bed and they
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: fired him. So we'll see how long Sully can stay.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, you say, juror go loot. Why are
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: his stays short? I mean, the guy to me reminds
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: me of Billy Martin, where he gets quick results, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he doesn't last very long.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like he comes in, he does real
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: well at first, and then management seems to think that
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know x'es and o's and doesn't have a
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: game plan for different situations. I guess. But Jerry is
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a player's coach. He's done really well wherever he's coached,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and that includes Florida. I don't know if you remember
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: all the way back to the Panthers when he did
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: a real good job there, and then he took the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Vegas Golden Knights in their first year in the league.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: He took him to the final against Washington. So he's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: done some remarkable things. But you know, who knows what
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: reason that the next opening doesn't go to Jerry Gallan?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Who knows why?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Well, right now he's in the KHL as I understand
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: he just took a recent job over there, so he'll
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: be out there for another year. So I actually was
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: going to talk about that tomorrow, but that's the latest,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: okay with him. So that means if you're telling me
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the Rangers might be in for a tost season, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: means my man, Kenny Albert and Dave Maloney, who they
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: hired as a sidekick, they're going to have a lot
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: of work to do to try to make this team interesting, right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah they are. But Kenny Albert's is such a great voice,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and you know, his dad was obviously the best, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and his uncle as well. I mean, all three of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: them have been had great calls. Dave Maloney's been doing
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: it for a long time, the captain and the old
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: captain of the New York Rangers, and certainly is well
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: healed in knowing the game. I'm going to have fun
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: listening to those guys this year and watching them on
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: TV and seeing things. I think this isn't going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: be an easy season for the Rangers. He've still got
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: some real good players, but they got a lot of
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: question marks as well. But when you've got sasterkin in net,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty good way to start, Okay.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Albert is a great friend, he's a great person, he's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a great father. I mean, he's a great family man.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: He's a hall of fame person in every sense of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the word. Never met Marv, but obviously Marv is an
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: iconic broadcaster. And I think al Albert was the other
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Albert was there, but Kenny is the one I know
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the most. And Kenny, to me, has always been a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: great friend of mine. And I'll always take pride in
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: this guy whatever he does. He's hall of fame in
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: every sense of the words. Kenny. I hope you have
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: my heart, Kenny, and you always will.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what. Kenny was on our podcast and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I said to him, and I've known him since he
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: was a little guy when he was coming to the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: garden with his daddy would wear a Vancouver Canucks jersey
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: to the games when his dad was broadcasting, and I
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: said to him, you know, it's it's people like you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: can that make this game great because they're nice people,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: no ego, no pretense, nothing, You're just a really good person.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And he really is. He's a good, good person.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Well taser flowing so low. It's my firstation, right, Kateablin,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: come in here, please give it.
• 27:16
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• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks Scott, Thank you, Katy. Well you know what, now
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I know we'll have a history of the sports. I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: gonna take you back a little bit in time. How's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that sound that sounds great?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I great history?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm gonna give you a good one here ready,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So ten nineteen fifty seven, I'm going to revisit it
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: trade it Detroit made with the Boston Bruins, Terry Sawchuk
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Johnny Busick unbelievable trade what both sides?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah, I mean there's you're talking about two iconic guys.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: A captain of the Bruins for many many years number
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: nine Johnny Busick one carried the cup around Madison Square
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Garden when they beat the Rangers in nineteen seventy two.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: And of course Terry Sawchuk somebody that you know, if
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: you talk about iconic goaltenders in the history of the game,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Sawchuk is right up there with the with the Glen
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Halls and on and on. So, I mean, those are
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame first ballot players.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: And by the way, a little bit of information on
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Glan I did a little bit of research on this here,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and that being the fact that we know he's sixty
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: one years old, but he's now the next head coach
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of the cooland Red Star of the KHL. It is
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: share Jerry. And the one thing I remember about the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Colan situation with Florida is they unceremoniously let him go
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and he had to.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Take a flight back in Well, it was worse than that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: They told him. They let him go with the Carolina
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Hurricanes building and told him to take a cab back
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to get his stuff from the hotel, and he took it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: He had to take a cab and then go to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the airport and fly home on his own. So it
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: was really a bad, bad, bad show for that organization.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: But that was a different Florida Panthers than you have today.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think that Vinnie uh Vinnie Viola was very
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: much involved, if at all, in those days. And certainly
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: it's a high class uh place that everybody wants to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: play now for the Florida Panthers.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: All right, My co host on Sports rapp is Mike
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Santos and I and down the road. I'm looking forward
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to you and I and Mike doing the show together.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts about my my co host, Mike Santos.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: He to me, I tell you one thing about Mike.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He's one of the most knowledgeable people on the planet
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: when it comes to hockey.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Hellos, He's He's very knowledgeable. He's been in the game
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a long long time. He's seen a lot of things.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: He's very observant, and he's a fun guy to talk to.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you Scott to make you laugh
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: at this one when I when we had him on
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: our show, I said to him, I said, Mike, I said,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: do you You don't have any relatives on Long Island,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: do you? I said that George Santos guy, is he
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: your brother politician that got thrown out last year or
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: two years ago when George Santos was a talk of
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: the town. Mike cracked up laughing about that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Ice is good. I'll tell you why to bring him
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: on the show. I feel like, you know what, I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: can hit him with anything. And when you have a
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: working relationship with what the guy that you call a
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: really good friends, that's unbelievable. All right, So Joshua Door
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and Cyberusker joining us Neil Tos Panthers for a three peat, Well,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that's okay, a fair question. What do you think you
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: have a chance to win it all?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Oh? The Panthers. Panthers have a great chance to win
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it all. They're the number one favorite right now. But
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: as I said, I think that we've got to think
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: about the age of Bobrowski and can he keep going
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the way he's going? And if he can't, who does
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: it for them? And then you know, they've it's really
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: hard to win two in a row, let alone three,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and that's why we haven't seen anybody win three in
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: a row since the Islanders won four in a row.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: There you go, Josh and Cyrus give an eight percent.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but Bob is in his prime, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: he's getting older. Goaltenders generally do. I think the goaltending
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: really as far as I'm concerned, Neil is probably the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: only question mark I have with him because of his age. Otherwise,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the rest of the club of pretty good. I know
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Matthew Chucks will be out a little bitt the beginning
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: of the year. It's better he's out the beginning of
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the year than later in the year anyhow. So you
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of time, But what are your
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: observations about being put Chuck out for a little bit
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of a time early.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I think that's fine. I think that Paul Maurice and
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: his coaches would rather see him get completely healthy. They
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: know when when everything matters, and that's when April rolls
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: around in the playoffs start. So, and I want to
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: make something very clear. I'm not saying Bobrowski won't be
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: fantastic next year, right I'm just saying that with every player,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: there is a time, you know, it's genetics and they
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: start to slow down. So let's hope for the Panthers
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: and for Bebrasky he keeps playing the way he's been
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: playing because he's he's a treasure to watch.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I agree with the hundred percent. I hate
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to see the let Spencer Night go. I thought he
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: was a Goltunder future, but I understand the move when
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: they brought in set Jelvi. Spencer Knight I thought was
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: actually the goaltender of the future there. But if you're
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: going to go out there and make a trade for
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a bigger guy, you have to give somebody up. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Spencer Knight was the guy to think you about. I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: thought he was the future of the Panthers in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: pipe for sure. But so I think it's pretty Your
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: point is very well taken. You It really really is.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: But again, goaltending is look to you ride a hot
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: goaltender and that's what allows you to win a Stanley Cup.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: You want to know that. Anyways, who's your goaltender?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Back in ninety four, Mike Mike Mike Richter. Mike Richter,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: who stood who was fantastic for us. Was our goalie
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: during the nineties and was a great, great competitor. He's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: always in great shape and him and Brian Leech were
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: great friends, and uh it was. He was one of
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: the cornerstones of the franchise back then.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Very good. Now I got to fill four or five
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: more questions ago, having a great time here with Neil
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Smith MotorCity, mad Mounth. My name is Scott Morgan Roth
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: with Neil Smith once upon a time Red Wims of course.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Now he built his dynasty and at Broadway. I'm telling you,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: if you win in New York, they're going to Roveria. Hey,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: did they do anything to honor you when you left
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: New York?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Not really, I gotta be honest. Not the Rangers didn't.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: There have been a lot of kind fans and a
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: lot of kind people, but the Rangers have yet to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: do anything for me. So we'll see. I mean, we're
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: coming up on the hundredth anniversary of the New York
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Rangers this season coming up. It's one hundred years. They
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: came in in twenty five twenty six of last century,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: nineteen twenty five twenty six or nineteen twenty six twenty seven. Sorry,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And so they're coming up to twenty five twenty six
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: this year, this will be their one hundredth year.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: All right. When the original six teams don't make the playoffs,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: how bad is that for hockey? Because four of them
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: didn't this year, it's not good.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, the original six are treasures in the league,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and I mean Montreal and Toronto made it, Detroit, Chicago,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Boston and of course the Rangers didn't make it. So
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: it's it's odd. You know that the two Canadian teams
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: from the original six made the playoffs and the four
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: American teams from the original six all missed the playoffs,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: And it's it's odd. It doesn't it doesn't happen that often.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: But there has been I think I looked this up.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I think there has been one season when all six
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. But I can't say that off the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: top of my head when that was.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: But you have four original six teams will make it
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a little on the American ones. That's not good for
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: ratings people. That just isn't whether you're on TN, T, ESPN, ABC,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it doesn't make it look at difference those guys in there.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I've always said that you know, no disrespect against the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Florida Panthers, but I've had some people say that the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Detroit Red Wings is going on more national broadcast than
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the Panthers because of the fact that they're They won
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a letland Stanley Cupps, and they are what I consider
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: America's team in terms of the National Hockey Layer. They're
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the only American team that's in double digits when it
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: comes to winning Stanley Coupps. So how do you not
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: say the Red Wings would not be America's team going
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that they won a lot. I'm not saying you did
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: say it. I'm just saying making a point.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're and they're very very popular team in America,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: as are the as are really the the Bruins and
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the Rangers and the Blackhawks. The Blackhawks had their little
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: dynasty just a couple of decades ago, but the Original Six,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: you're always very proud and I work for Detroit. As
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: you spoke about the Detroit Red Wings and the New
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: York Rangers. I mean, I had a really lucky career
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: because I was with two Original Six teams and very
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: proud of that as well.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: How much do players like to play for the Original
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Six teams.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, they like it. They go back because I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: they all have grandfathers, you know, they all have that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: We're around watching this thing for a long time now,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and everybody knows who the Original Six are. So there's
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: something special about playing in Toronto, Montreal, Boston, Chicago, Detroit
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: or New York that you know. It's just a special feeling.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you this right now. I've covered all
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the sports out there. A lot of the other players
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: in other sports don't know the history as well, but
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: hockey players that give them their credit, they do Original Six.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: We want to go. If we get a chance, we're going.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And again I've been it. I as other players you
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: know about this now, they don't think, Wow, you don't
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: know the history of the sport that allows you to
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: get paid a nice living. Really seriously, really, I had
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to get one. I had to do it, all right.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the NHL and the Olympics and how
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: successful was a four Nations tournament.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: The four Nations was amazing tournament. I poo pooed it
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: in my mind when they announced it they were going
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: to do that, But I got to tell you that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: was some of the best hockey I've seen in a long,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: long long time, including playoff hockey the four nations. The
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: players played so intense, it was fantastic. I think the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Olympics will be great as well. I think that when players,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: particularly Europeans, but Canadians and Americans as well, but particularly
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Swedes and Finns and and so on, play for their country,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: there's something really special there. And I think you'll see
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: a great Olympics when the when the NHL is participating.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. I'm glad that the NHL
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: is going back to the Olympics. A few other questions
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I want to get to you. Number one, NHL expansion
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: is inevitable. They're talking about landing two teams and the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: price tag is a whopping two billion bucks two billion dollars.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of money Gary Bettman is going to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: get and your estamation, who would be the two leading
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: favorites to get a team?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I got to think that Atlanta and Houston
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: only because they're major TV markets, those are major cities
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: in America. But who knows. I mean, I didn't see
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Seattle coming until it did. Certainly didn't see Columbus, Ohio
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: or you know, Saint Paul, Minnesota. So you never know, Nashville,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Tennessee getting a team. So we'll see what happens here
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: in I'm not sure that Scott that I'm a fan
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of any more expansion. I think at thirty two that's
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: more than I ever dreamed would be in the league.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Well let alone. In fact, they're going to an eighty
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: four game scheduled as well, they're cutting out two preseason
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: games this so accommodate the eighty four games. So you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: let's not kill ourselves. You know, it's a domino effect
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: anyways that you're too game where you're thought about the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: eighty four game schedule.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It's just that it's going to come pack the schedule
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: atle bit more. You know, they're going to have the players,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: they're going to have to play more games in less days.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: And what does that lead to, Well, it leads to injury,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: because when you're playing night after night, injuries happen. So
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I'm sure that these young guys are well
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: enough condition and great enough athletes to be able to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: keep to play a couple extra games, but it'll be
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. Well, hey, it's great for us.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: We all get to see more hockey.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about overtimes. Okay, you have the three
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: on three in regulation. How do you like it?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Well, the three on three is should end up being
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: a goal scored in the in the three. That's what
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: they're always hoping for their I think every hockey guy
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: doesn't really want games to go to the shootout. The
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: fans love it, it's exciting the shootout is, but old
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: hockey guys like me I don't like a skills competition
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: to decide who's going to win the game. So at
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: three on three you see really exciting plays. You see
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: you know the strategy is hold onto the puck as
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: long as you can, don't let the other team get
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a change in, and when you get them really tired,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: attack and try to score on a team when there
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: when they're really tuckered out out on the ice because
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you've had to puck the whole time. So it's exciting
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: for the fans.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I've always loved overtime hockey in the playoffs because you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: go on forever and that's when you find out who
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the strongest of the fittest. Now let's go back. I'm
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: going to go back to hear you. My observation on expansion,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Atlanta should get one number one because they're looking about
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: building that stadium in the suburbs, so I think the
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: third time will work out. There's money behind this effort.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I do believe it would succeed. Number two. I think
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Houston would be a good idea because then as long
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: as they bring back to Houston Arrows, you're okay. If
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I was looking for a dark horse of a team
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: that I would love to see, who would be Kansas
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: City because he had the old Kansas City scouts because
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they don't have a winter sports team, and I think
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: they do have a legitimate venue in Kansas City. But
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: my favorite Neil would be Atlanta slash Suburbs, Atlanta, Houston
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: slash Arrows, and then Kansas City is the dark horse,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: and I think you have to stop it there. I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: don't think you can do a whole lot. And guess
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: what we got Cliff Neil on here, who's going to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: be in a future show with us. This guy's an
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: expansion guru if I ever saw one. He's going to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: be on a future edition of the Sports and shame
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Gladgic could pop in here. Cliff really had he said,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: how do you think the way to new people will
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: watch programming? Does the TV market size an argument with
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: expansion teams still hold the same importance as it's in
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the past, especially with the massive failure in Azona. Never
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: everybody lived down Arizona. You want to tackle that one.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Arizona was a failure right the whole time. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: mean right from the time they came into the league Phoenix.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: They played in the small building that was built for basketball,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: so there was the horrible site lines. And then they
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: built a new building and everybody thought they would build
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: it in Scottsdale, and they ended up building it in Glendale,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: and nobody wanted to go to that side of town
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: to go to hockey games, and so their attendants never
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: made it. And then that last two years was just
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a joke that they played in the Mullet Arena where
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: the where the college team plays, and they're playing a
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: little three thousand and four thousand seed arena. They stayed
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: there too long, But then along came a good owner
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: in Ryan Smith and took it to Salt Lake City,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: So that thing's gone. But I do think TV markets
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: still matter to the NHL and getting big TV markets involved.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you this, Okay. I lived in
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Arizona at the time. I don't want to mention any names,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: but I saw a game or actually two games over
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: at that time was called the America or West Arena,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and if that wasn't a joke, I don't know what was.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: So I ended up the Phoenix, Arizona Coyotes wherever you
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: want to call him back then didn't particularly like me
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: because I wasn't giving his team very good publicity, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: that putting it mildly. He wouldn't let me come back
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to anymore games because, as Jack Nicholson would say, if
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: he can't handle the through relling of life, right, yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I thought the change should play over at the old
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Arizona Memorial Coliseum and charge more money, with at least
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: eleven twelve thousand seats there until they figured it out.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: But no, they didn't want no part of me, and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't want no part of them anither. And if
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I went to see a game, I'd go over to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: LA it didn't matter. But the truth third, I don't
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: know if he's ever forgiven me, but the guy that
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: went over to Anaheim, who was his assistant, said the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: guy overreacted. He just couldn't handle it because he was
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: in a no win situation. And as you just said,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: that was a bad situation from the beginning. How the
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: heck can you watch a game in an arena like
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: that when you can only see one goal? Everything is
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: so obstructive. I don't even understand. Am I that smart
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: or am I stupid? You tell me what I am.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I'll accept you for whatever you tell me.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, No, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It didn't
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: work in Brooklyn either, when the Islanders went in and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: played at the U in in Brooklyn, at the the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: building where the Nets play, Barclay Center, and they had
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: bad sight lines in that building and ended up luckily
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: for the Islanders in a brand new, beautiful, state of
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the art building in Belmont Park called Ubs Arena. So no,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: you're you're absolutely bang on if you if you don't
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: have good sight lines, you got to see that. You
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: got to see the game developed. That's what everybody needs
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to see, is how the game develops, and and and
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: how the puck moves through the different zones and and uh,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: how how plays developed.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: So Pierre guy doesn't want me back because I'm telling
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the truth that the arena stinks. I'll live with it
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: all day long. And and one reason I said that
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: is even the press situation wasn't very up there. And
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: then arena you were in there, right, you know that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: was poor?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was a long time ago since
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I was in there, but yeah, it wasn't It wasn't
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: a good thing. By the way, Matt Kachuck's dad was
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: playing for them at that time, Keith, he was on
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the Phoenix Coyotes.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, I remember when over at America West Arena,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Neil what was called there. They had his billboard up
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: there focusing on the guy. I remember, Keith Kachuck real
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: well in terms of how they marketed in there. You're
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: great about that. So, yeah, no, I get it. It's
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: just a bad place. And the guy with Anaheim, who
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: was assistant, said, because I ended up bumping to him
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: at a Wings game at the Joe against Anaheim, he's Scott,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: You're okay. He was just upset and faith that everybody
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: was piling on. He said, didn't want me back. I
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: want to go back. So you know what, I went
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: back to that arena when the Phoenix sub play now
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I realized I'm in a real legitimate arena. It wasn't
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: called hockey. I don't know what it was called, but
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that. All right, Well, we got one more course.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: We're going to get you out of here on having
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a good time. By the way, Josh dor has a question,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I knew anything about Kyle Publica.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I don't, Kyle, No, I don't.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Okay, no problem. So having a good time?
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Am I making any idiot? Yeah?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, this great time is flying.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Oh. I told you when we come out of the show,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: we really throw an out rapid fire great stuff. When
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I have great material like you and I'm out there rambling,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't have that much caffeine today, so I would
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: just fire up a There are times when I get
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: caffeine it gets way worse. But no, I'm mellow muller mouth,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: even though MotorCity man mouth is what it is. As
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: you figure that out and you really get a big
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: genius cap after that one. All right, So d have
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: any desires you ever want to return on the NFL
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: fro An Office.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to go in a different position. I'd
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: probably like to go in as a president of a club,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: president of hockey operations. But I got to tell you, Scott,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I'm happy not having the stress of running a team
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and just doing what I'm doing and doing the show
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: with Vic morn and and enjoying myself and watching it
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: grow and we own it. It's our thing, just like
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: this is your thing, and you know what, it's really
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: fun and you put a lot of passion into it
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: when it's your own thing, when it's your own show
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: and it's your own product. And I'm enjoying that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: No question about all. Since you talked about it, I'm
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: going to give you an opportunity the floor as yours
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: are about three or four five minutes, okay, Neil, to
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: talk about your show and detail what you put on there,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the type of guests that you have on there. This
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: is your opportunity to market Natel rep around podcast or
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: is yours? Neil? Go ahead?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that people will really learn a
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: lot of things. I think that our motto for the
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: show is no nonsense, just hockey, because we don't come
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: on and talk body talk and do all the swearing
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: and locker room stuff and all that. What we like
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: to do is just talk about what's going on in
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the league and try to bring to the listeners or
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: and viewers things that they wouldn't have known had they
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: not tuned in, had they not listened to the podcast,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: did they not watch the show? And so that really
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: makes us happy. And the other thing is having great
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: guests that are very entertaining. You won't believe who we
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: had on today today and it hasn't dropped yet. Uh,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: but we had on Bobby Valentine really the manager of
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: the Mets and the manager and talk baseball the whole time.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of hockey to talk with him,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: but that's what we wanted to do. We wanted to
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: do a celebrity series, and Bobby Valentine was our first celebrity.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: We're going to have others. But that was a lot
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: of fun. And so, you know what, we have fun
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: doing it. I think we bring the listeners and the
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: and the audience a lot of good information and stuff
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: that they might not find anywhere else.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so where did where did they actually go? Ahead
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and find your show?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Any any any podcast platform, iHeartRadio, Apple, anywhere you want
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: to go to get your podcast, Spotify of course, YouTube.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: We're everywhere, So it's NHL wrap Around and and we
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: have our own website at NHL wraparound dot com. You
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: can find all our episodes on there and just give
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: us a try, and I'm sure you'll like it.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Joshua and Tour and saiber Ruski will be two of
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: your biggest fands. You know who I have on my
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Monday night show, Mickey Callaway every Monday Night form a
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Mets manager.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's great.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what he wants to come on. You
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: know what he's said one of the best things you
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: can ever said the other night. You know what that is.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: I love coming on the show. I can say whatever
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I want. Of course you can't step my mind and
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: tell it. This is ANFCC. Really whatever you want.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: He's having a ball. He see. I'll tell you what
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: thing when Mickey Calloway stays around with me for while
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: he's getting his own show. We're just trying to get
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: him going here so he gets comfortable working in this
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  Speaker 1: particular format. He's having a good time. I think the
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  Speaker 1: one thing I can advise you to do is keep
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  Speaker 1: doing what you're doing, but just continue to be creative
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  Speaker 1: and different than anybody else is what you need to do.
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  Speaker 1: There's like three or four million different podcasts. As long
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  Speaker 1: as you have the best guests out there and you
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  Speaker 1: treat him with respect. And I know you're so well
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  Speaker 1: respected in this industry anyways, and you're knowledgeable. That's the
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing. And that's why when sports rapp it was
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  Speaker 1: prior to the Sports Exchange before that, when Mike Santos
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  Speaker 1: came on board, Mike brought something where that you can't
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  Speaker 1: buy anywhere else. And that's complete and unbelievable knowledge. And
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  Speaker 1: you can take a guy like me who's been around
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  Speaker 1: the block nine million times over, bring a guy like
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  Speaker 1: Mike in and we could do the show by ourselves,
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  Speaker 1: and if we add other people, you had them. But
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  Speaker 1: you got a guy that's knowledgeable, been there, done that,
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  Speaker 1: It's done every responsibility in the planet. And I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you the amount of credibility you get, Neils, that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And if anybody doesn't understand your credibility, if they look
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  Speaker 1: you up on Google, then for sake, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: your podcast is going to lose. If I have anything
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  Speaker 1: to say about it, and you have anything to say
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  Speaker 1: about it, I'm gonna bring you and your partner on
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  Speaker 1: here and give an opportunity to stick it in their
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  Speaker 1: air and make sure that they don't forget about it,
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  Speaker 1: because again I know we will talk about it off
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  Speaker 1: camera and all that, but my goal is to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that this will win win situation, that you're able
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  Speaker 1: to grow yours and we can bring we can bring
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  Speaker 1: something to the table both sides. But I've been so
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  Speaker 1: excited about having you on. This is unbelievable. And when
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  Speaker 1: I came back from Europe with my wife Neil Smith,
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  Speaker 1: top of the top of the list. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: this guy out. We're gonna have a plast at this guy.
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  Speaker 1: I never expect that would have as much Cat Paine today. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: didn't you you need.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on, Scott. I appreciate being on
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  Speaker 2: your show, and good luck and keep going, keep her
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  Speaker 2: going well.
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  Speaker 1: We hope you have your back off before we go, though, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: you have like one more station break also at the
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  Speaker 1: Well, I want to send us send a special shout
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  Speaker 1: and we're setting up this opportunity with Neil Smith and
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  Speaker 1: I to get together and do the show tonight. Neil,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully you're watching out there. I appreciate the opportunity that
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I got to talk to Neil Smith class act, but
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  Speaker 1: more importantly a Stanley Cup champion. How do you like
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the fact that your name is engraved on that trophy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's something to be very proud of. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: oh I'm thrilled if I Have you ever told me
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  Speaker 2: that that kid from Toronto would end up being able
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  Speaker 2: to be the only person ever to win a Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup at Madison Square Garden for the Rangers. They never
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: won a Stanley Cup at home ever, So that was
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• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Lauria, we're gonna call Neil theo Epstein Smith, or we're
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: gonna call Neil David Copperfield Smith. We started at the
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: beginning show and of course the Red Wings for many
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: years had a good gym and Ken Holland, who was
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: really good too. He's done a good job as well.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: But you know what what you did in New York
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  Speaker 1: and nothing short is outstanding and for you to be
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  Speaker 1: revered and have your name on the Stanley Cup, you
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: are a champion in every sense of the world. And
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I am so glad that you came on the MotorCity
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  Speaker 1: of man Mouth to tell your story and talk about
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: some great hoppy hockey topics that we were able to
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: get out there. If they hear it from you and
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I say this, I don't just say that just to
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: be nice to be nice. I know how credible you are.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I get my homework on you. More importantly, I was
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a beneficiary of a lot of your work because being
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a Red Wings guy covering him from a lot of
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: years I did. I mean, one of my favorite PR
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: guys there was John Hahn. I don't know if you remember,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Sean hanods of the greatest PR guys I've ever worked with.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: So I know a lot of the same people you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: When we now that I have your number and all
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: that we get together and talk a little bit more,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: and he said, you look out that I look forward
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: to meeting at some point. But it's just so cool
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: to do this, it really really is. It's crazy, just
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: so glad we made a workout. So meanwhile, this concludes
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  Speaker 1: this edition of MotorCity man Mouth Show on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: Neil David Copperfield Smith or Neil Neil E. Fste Smith.
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  Speaker 2: I had to do it one more time now I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: This is Scott Morton Roth Motor City man Mouth. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining us. We'll see you on the next
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: edition of MotorCity man My Show. Good evening everybody, and
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: thanks everybody for participating in the chat room. It's been
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: a great show. We're looking forward to doing a lot more.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And Neil Smith de Leon know what happens tonight. You
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: made a good friend here. I've always admired you, and
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  Speaker 1: now I admire you even that much more. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you sir.