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Is the Worst Market Crash in History Just Weeks Away? - Aaron Brickman Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So folks in my telegram chat recently shared an interview with me. And they said, Seth, you've got to watch this. Look, I always try to watch what you send me.
• 0:16
  And this time, I'm so thankful that I did. And I have to tell you, when I watched the interview, I was speechless. My head was spinning. I haven't been disturbed by an interview in a long time. And trust me, I listen to a lot of interviews.
• 0:31
  It's not often that you hear a perspective that's so broad and so deep, spanning everything from history to planetary movements to cosmic cycles to biblical knowledge to a profound understanding of economics and to the intricate workings of the forces of good and evil in our world. My guest today is Aaron Brickman. And since his August interview on the Hagman report, his stock market predictions have been eerily accurate. And what he's seeing just around the corner could possibly be the biggest market crash in human history. But what's incredible is that even amidst these predictions, he has this profound message of faith and hope.
• 1:14
  So stay with us until the end because I have a feeling it's gonna be a soul stirring and maybe a long discussion. Also, we're recording this on Wednesday, October 5. So if I don't get it up on Wednesday night, I'll probably premiere it live on Thursday, so there won't be a normal q and a. But before we get started, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV, a Patriot owned streaming platform. Over at Rise, our mission is to uncover the truth no matter how dark and difficult while always holding on to hope.
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• 2:01
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• 5:49
  I am incredibly excited for this discussion with Aaron. I've given that the great introduction. But I warn you that this is probably gonna get deep and it's probably gonna go for a long time. So this might be a couple hour long interview. I told him ahead of time.
• 6:02
  I said, look, Aaron, I don't want to put a time limit on this. I just want to talk and just see where it takes us. So I'm sure we're gonna be diving into a lot of incredible topics. So without further ado, let's go ahead and welcome Aaron on to Man in America. Thank you so very, very much for joining us today.
• 6:18
  It's truly an honor to have you here.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, honor is all mine. I've looked at the guests you've been interviewing, and you've got quite the quite the selection. So kudos to you and what you're doing. So I appreciate this. This is an honor for me.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I appreciate that. And I have to say, you know, I've been excited for a lot of different guests, but I've been, for whatever reason, exceptionally excited to have you on. Since I first first heard you on Doug Hagman's show, and you did multiple interviews. I think I probably listened to three or four hours worth of your interviews with him.
• 6:51
  And I said, I have to get this guy on. And so I appreciate you responding to my messages on Twitter and then coming on. So Aaron, let's just go ahead and just dive into this. And if you'll really walk our audience through a lot of what you've laid out so far, and I'll give just a little bit of a preface to this. You know, when I first heard you, I had never come across someone that was able to tie together all the different aspects of the global economy in the way that you did.
• 7:22
  And not just the economy, but looking at what's happening with the planetary alignments and the moon phases and the calendars and the Jewish calendar, but also applying that and then looking at the cycles over history. And so if you want to just walk our audience through what you refer to as the, like the combination lock of events lining up, And so and then how that brings us to where we are today. And so the audience knows, I'm interviewing on Wednesday. This is Wednesday. It's October 5.
• 7:53
  Right? Today's October 5. Right? So just because the timing is important for these interviews. So I'll just I'll give you the floor for that.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, thank you in for yeah, I think I'll try and lay a foundation and you can jump in with questions. And I'll give you a little brief background because context is everything, right? So I'm an entrepreneur. My wife and I have been pretty successful.
• 8:19
  We had a successful company after the dot com collapse. That was a tech company and we're doing it again right now. But my real passion is the markets and I got turned on. I've always been passionate about the markets. Been actually when I was like 14 years old, the 87, I was enthralled, stayed up all night watching CNN cover it.
• 8:41
  And I always wanted to work on Wall Street, but that's a very back in the 80s and early 90s. That's kind of a select club. And they certainly didn't have day trading and platforms and computers and all that stuff. But I didn't get to do that. But I've always that was always my passion.
• 8:56
  So I was well read. Well, I'm a double major history and political science. I went to grad school, but I just couldn't finish. So I but I've always been watching the markets. I'm a student of history, student of economic history, in market history in particular.
• 9:16
  And so over the years, I was short for the February, although I was just a rookie, very green. I mean, was like 27 or something. Didn't know what I was doing. But I was short for 09/11. And then I was short.
• 9:32
  I was short for eight. And I was short for the August in 2015. And so
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: So, Aaron, just to jump in quickly. Just when Yeah. I wanna make sure I understand what you're saying correctly because I'm not a finance guy.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: That's okay. And and also for the audience. So when you say that you're short, if I understand correctly, because I I watched The Big Short, right, which is very helpful for me to understand things.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Is that am I am I correct in understanding that you're basically betting against? You're saying, look, I'm putting my money that these stocks are going to fail. So if you were short in 02/2001, you're saying, look, I see some signs that are telling me things are gonna be going south, and I'm gonna put I'm gonna put my money in that. Is that am I correct in understanding that?
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely spot on, Seth. And what most people don't realize is is the the markets there's an incredible amount of money made in crashes, and incredibly mind boggling amounts of money. And some of the Titans on Wall Street have cut their teeth on crashes. It's really how they got to where they're at. So this isn't, you know, it's not being permeable or a permabear.
• 10:35
  It's not being constantly, you know, believing in one direction. It's really assessing and understanding, you know, economics and fundamentals as well as technicals and understanding where we're at in history. You know, is this a time to be in the bond market or a time to not? Is this a time to invest in stocks or a time to divest in? And so yes, you're correct.
• 10:58
  Being short is betting that the market is extremely overvalued and that in a very short amount of time, you're going to have a high volatility event and go from an extreme high to an extreme low. And if you can time that and be successful at it, you'd be public cannot believe how much money can be made. But that's the trick, right? I mean, we're not just talking about writing a newsletter and telling people, you know, the markets overvalued and two years later, you know, it happens and you do a victory lap. That's not what we're doing here.
• 11:30
  This is extremely, you have to be extremely accurate both in where you think the market is going to go in price as well as in the duration of time. And because of that, it's high risk, the odds are way against you. I don't want anybody to walk, you know, take this, go away from this thinking this is easy. Or even what we're going to talk about is is foregone conclusion. It's not.
• 12:02
  It's like the weather, it can change very quickly. And so we're just going to talk about what I saw coming and really where we're at currently. And then what has to be, what has to take place in the future for what I'm looking at to actually transpire. So I really so anyways, having said that, I was short, made some money. But after eight, I'm a student so I really was studying it, studying and looking for the next crash.
• 12:37
  And I have not been short. I tried to get short for 2020. But to be honest, I totally screwed that up. And I totally screwed it up. Not because I didn't think it was coming.
• 12:46
  But it was some really, really bad poor decisions I made in the process of getting short. So, but I'm looking at this. So over the last two years, I was looking at my next opportunity. And one of the things that I had established in believe the Doug Hagman interview is there's a number of conditions that have to be present for a stock market crash to be possible. Okay, and this is like a storm.
• 13:16
  All the storms are going to have the same conditions that need to be present. Just because they're present doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get the storm. But when you do get the storm, you look back and go, well, all the signs were there. And that's what we're really doing. So I've likened it to a combination lock that there's a number of digits, there's a number of things that have to be present for the stock market crash to be possible.
• 13:42
  And if four out of five of those are present, it's not going to happen. You have to get all of them. Now when I say all of them, there might be more than I'm even aware of. I'm just going to tell you the ones that I'm aware of that have been present in the nineteen twenty nine crash, '19 '80 '7 crash, '2 thousand and '8 crash and the twenty twenty crash. And you can go back and study the 1800s and 1700s and you'll see that those conditions are the same as well.
• 14:12
  But for brevity's sake, we'll just deal with you know, the crashes of the last one hundred years. And I'll start with Chris Carlin. So Chris Carlin was a trader. I believe he was trading in Chicago on the floor back in '87. Super nice guy.
• 14:30
  He's still around. He has his own private service. And what he after the crash, what he wrote, which I think is just a fantastic work. It's called the Autumn Panics. It's a free PDF.
• 14:44
  You can get it online. It's a download. I think it's like seven or eight pages. And what he demonstrated was that both the nineteen twenty nine crash as well as the nineteen eighty seven crash all bottomed on the same lunar date, not the solar date, we have a solar calendar, but on the same lunar date. And let me explain what he was in.
• 15:07
  He calls those days, the dark days, okay, because that's literally to the day, both times when the market bottom. You come along in 02/2008 and you did the exact same thing. And we're approaching that date again here in 2022. And really how you come to it is you have to find the spring equinox and you count seven new moons forward of the spring equinox and you got to
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: count another twenty seven, twenty
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: eight days past that. And in you're going to you're going to have a potential for a stock market bottom. So he then wrote a book, called The Spiral Calendar, where he really laid this out and it's just a phenomenal book. It's high math. He's way smarter than I'll ever hope to be.
• 15:59
  But he demonstrated it, you know, looking at twenty nine and eighty seven crash. That same date, by the way, was the same date in the nineteen sixty two Cuban Missile Crisis, where we went to our highest DEFCON on that very day. And then things began to subside. So it's not just governing stock market panics, was studying it was governing geopolitical panics. So you have that as one the locks.
• 16:31
  And then a guy, he's actually a professor out in Hawaii. He came along and his name is Steve Pitts. And what he discovered was that all the crashes, the panic portion, and let's be specific about crashes. Crashes are where you're at a high and you go to an extreme low in a very short amount of time. When I say short amount of time, we're talking forty to forty four trading days.
• 16:59
  Okay. And what he demonstrated was that the panic portion. So we'll talk about the last three weeks, which is really where the panic sets in. So we're talking the last thirteen to fifteen trading days, that those panics are all triggered by a full moon that occurs. Well, it's triggered by a full moon that occurs within six weeks of a solar eclipse.
• 17:30
  Okay. And so in June of this year, when people were calling for a crash, I was saying there's no way we can crash. Well, why not? Well, we're not even near a solar eclipse. So I've back tested his stuff and his stuff goes back to the 1800s.
• 17:47
  I think I've looked at eight or nine crashes in US history, and you'll always see that signature there. So now you've got two of the ahead.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask quickly with that is, you know, I know that there's a lot of folks that they say, you know, they don't want to look at astrology, look at, you know, to the, it's almost like it's a pagan approach. And I'm not going to get into that particular discussion. But I've heard you made a point that the, and I've experienced this too, the moon controls significant amounts of activity on earth. It controls even our emotional states. You'll find that, they might see more crime during a full moon.
• 18:28
  Teachers might notice that the kids are more out of line during a full moon, because moon, even just from a very scientific standpoint, affects the it has a gravitational pull to it, which is what creates our tides coming in and out as an example. Now, the human body is mostly water, so this does affect us. And I also want to point out just for the listeners and the viewers of this show today, that it's not about divining the stars. It's more about looking at patterns and saying, well, this particular event that happened, you know, say it happened on this day, know, it happened once every ten years for the past hundred years. It's more like saying, well, on that particular day, there was always a tornado that hit, you know, within a hundred miles of that happening.
• 19:14
  And so it's not like you're looking for the tornadoes to show you what's going to happen, but you're saying, well, look, it's happened a % of the time in this particular pattern, then it's showing us something. Right? And so I think that's it's that's something I really learned from this and learned from listening to you. It's about looking at these patterns over the course of history and developing an understanding of what if there's a pattern, a mathematical pattern, and there's cycles as well. So I just wanted to just put that out there for the audience that this helped me really to understand where you were coming from and where you're going.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I think in the twenty first century, we try and get to intent. We try and ask the wrong questions so many times. Where the ancients, they didn't have a clue. They just recognize, hey, this happens every time there's a solar eclipse.
• 20:06
  Oh my gosh, they're figuring out a pattern with the moons. And they might make up mythology try and explain that and pass that down over the centuries. And, but I don't care. I don't care why it works if it works. And I'm not trying to I'm definitely not into astrology.
• 20:28
  I told people, you know, besides some of the moral implication, I'm not that smart. And I can't remember all that stuff. Just am looking really what this is, is it's pattern recognition. You know, the charts are pattern recognition a lot of the times and you're seeing the ancients do that when you're talking about celestial events. Okay, I'm not going ascribe any type of meaning to celestial events, whether that's good or bad.
• 20:55
  I'm just saying for the purpose of trading, I'm not not looking at it trying to interpret intent, or cosmic meaning. I'm just noting if every single crash in the last one hundred years has this present. I guess we got to look for that, you know. So and I think we see that in science all the time. See science where they can't explain a lot and in fact, they can't explain a whole lot, but yet they'll go with the science on a host of issues and then it's only later that somebody will add to the body of knowledge and we'll discover the actual reason why.
• 21:35
  So to your point, it is definitely a proven fact that solar eclipses, definitely full moons, lunar eclipses for sure are definitely affecting the human mind as you talked about with the bodies of water, it's affecting the tides, it's affecting plant life. It is that's well documented. I just go with the fact that you're seeing this agitation in the minds of the investors around full moons as it relates to the proximity to a solar eclipse. So why is that? I'll come back to why that's important.
• 22:14
  So the third lock that I discovered was a guy by the name of Arch Crawford and Arch Crawford has been on Wall Street for decades. He's retired now. There's a great little five page PDF he produced for free back in the day. And really what he was looking at was he noted that the Mars has an opposition to Uranus at every crash, at least at every crash going back to 1929. And again, this had to be in an opposition and an exact degree formation.
• 22:49
  So this wasn't something that was just gonna be present all the time. We just entered into that Mars Uranus cycle literally in December of twenty twenty one. And as soon as we did, the markets began to go down. They did that same pattern in 1929 as well. That Marjorina cycle is concluding in December.
• 23:15
  And so as far as it relates to my understanding, I've been telling people, so a lot of people are calling for a 2023 crash. And I'm like, anything's possible. But looking at the last hundred years of market history, if we're going to crash, we need to be crashing between now and December when that Mars Uranus opposition concludes. And then I guess one of the last pieces, there's two more pieces I want to talk about. The last piece is the Saturn Uranus square.
• 23:50
  Now this is a big deal. This happens every forty five years. So this is not, you know, this is not a monthly new moon, full moon type of configuration. It's a forty five year cycle. In 1842, we had a Saturn Uranus square and that was the bottom of the eighteen thirty six to eighteen forty two depression, stock market crash and depression.
• 24:17
  That's with Andrew Jackson Jackson in the dissolving of the second bank. The markets lost 80% of their value in a short span of time, 80% of their value and they bottomed at the Saturn square Uranus. You go forward two more of those cycles and it is 1932. '19 '30 '2 saw the nineteen twenty nine to nineteen thirty two depression in the stock market bottomed again at the Saturn Uranus Square in 1932, and it was a 90% collapse in the market. You fast forward another two cycles, ninety years later, and it is 2022.
• 25:04
  We are having a Saturn squaring Uranus again this year. And as fate would have it, we are having it is reaching within 1% of a perfect square aspect, which means it's going to be at its peak power from Monday, October 3 through Thursday, October 6. So we are in it right now. Okay? Now that is due to bottom in November.
• 25:38
  What that is saying is that in November of this year, whatever panic comes to the markets should be concluded based upon 1842 and 1932 cycle. Now, Peter Alottis, who was on Wall Street, I love the guy. He's still around. He still has a service. He's awesome.
• 26:02
  He's super smart. He came along and noted about a month ago that there is a forty year cycle that is going on in Wall Street from 1840 or from 1942. So from 1942 to the bull market beginning in 1982. It is now coming and it is due the November this year. So now you have a ninety year or you're you have actually a forty five year cycle with Saturn, as well as a forty year cycle that is due and they're both due in the month of November.
• 26:48
  So there's a number of cycles and plan celestial events that are saying that if there's going to be a crash, it can be a very significant crash. That's one thing to note. Okay. And that it should be concluded in November. And then the last, so that's I think what are we working on?
• 27:09
  Like four digits, the fifth digit of this and it's the one that I'm most this is the one I've studied the most because it's just so obvious. And that is the the Jewish high holy days on the calendar, which most people are completely oblivious to A) because they're not Jewish, and B) because it's a lunar based calendar. Okay, so it's not showing up. And because it's a lunar based people, that means that these dates each year are shifting around. Okay, they're not going to be stationary and they can shift.
• 27:52
  They can shift by weeks on these calendars. Okay. So for example, 1929, here's how a crash takes place. You go you're at a high. You have what's called an Elliot wave terms, a wave one.
• 28:08
  That means you have a very large drop. Usually it's anywhere from eight to 17%. That gets people's attention. You then have what's called a wave two where you do a retracement. It's usually a Fibonacci which a mathematical formula.
• 28:27
  It's a Fibonacci retracement and everybody thinks everything's okay. And then you begin to roll over and you go right back down to that low. And it's at that low that not all crashes emanate just because you follow that pattern. We get this all the time in the stock market. It's with the stuff that we just talked about.
• 28:50
  If that's all present, then those conditions are ripe, where you could get a really extreme move to the downside, which the public knows as a crash. So in 1929, obviously we had that, we had a 17% drop, we had about a 50% retracement and then we began to roll over and go down. When we ran when we went down, we literally stopped at Rosh Hashanah. Rosh Hashanah is, on the religious Jewish New Year. It's the religious Jewish New Year on their calendar.
• 29:26
  Okay? And we rallied all the way into Yom Kippur. Okay? And then we crashed. And you're gonna say, so what?
• 29:36
  Well, we did the exact same thing in 1987. We went down as soon as we hit Rosh Hashanah, we stopped, we rallied. As soon as we hit Yom Kippur, we began the crash. Okay. In 02/2008 and I was trading that, there was a massive curveball that came our way, probably messed up a ton of traders.
• 30:00
  And that is that we did not rally from Rosh Hashanah to Yom Kippur crashed. We literally began the crash at Rosh Hashanah. So is present. Obviously, it's present again this year and it's not just that it has to be present. There's no way I can explain this on air.
• 30:23
  I'd have to actually visually show you. But you have to get day counts in moons and solar eclipses and Jewish calendar and these planets. You all have to have them in a configuration, a very tight configuration where what we called Elliot wave actually fits, you can have your down move into Rosh Hashanah, you can then have an up move into Yom Kippur. There's a full moon nearby. There's a solar eclipse nearby.
• 30:52
  Chris Carlin's dark days are right on schedule. Is a complicated dance to get all these technical formations together so that you can trade a crash. So here's my little claim to fame, I guess. I guess I did that August 25. Okay.
• 31:14
  So in what I mean by that is I had looked at this and was super excited about this year because of all these alignments and formations. And look, you can see this and study this before you ever get to September, October, which is the seasonal time for a crash. So I can look five-ten years into the future, look at the planets, look at calendar and go, Yeah, there's possibly a crash or absolutely not. Can't happen. And so I did that this year.
• 31:45
  And what I've said is, it's not that you're just going out in every year, you're claiming there's going to be a crash, context is everything. And the context was January through June. That was your context. The context is we were at an all time high. And then we lost a tremendous amount.
• 32:08
  I mean, we've wiped out over 40,000,000,000,000 in assets. And we went down into June. And now we've come back up into August. Okay, so that's your context. Your context is, is a crash possible?
• 32:23
  And everybody's like, Oh my gosh, it is possible now. Okay. So in August, on August 25, was interviewed and I kind of laid out what had to happen if there was going to be a crash. And I'll lay it out for your audience right now because I think this is the thing that people are most interested in is not necessarily even how I'm doing it, how I'm coming up with all this stuff. It's what comes well, it's really what comes next based upon what I've been able to do so far.
• 33:03
  Let me for the audience for the for, you know, indulge me for a second. Soup I'm not clairvoyant. I'm not the smartest guy in the room. There's other guys that probably know what I'm saying. Nobody's writing about it.
• 33:23
  I will assure you of that. You're not going to find articles, not going to find books. This is worth its weight in gold. The traders out there, they're listening. This is worth its weight in gold.
• 33:34
  If you will spend as much time and Seth, counted up, I've spent thousands of hours. Kid you not. My wife will test like, I'm still after I've studied the '8 crash in comparison to the '29 and '87 since 'eight. And even last week, I was finding more the math is math to me is the fingerprints of God. Math is this whole universe that has been ordered, Your whole body construction.
• 34:03
  I dare say and I know this will cause some people to get a little ruffled. I'm telling you your life events are, there is a mathematical equation to your life events. I kid you not. Okay. I have found the mathematical equation in my life.
• 34:19
  Okay. I believe it's different for every single person. Okay, but what I did, alright, this is little this is something new for your audience because I haven't told anybody this. So I was I knew about cycles. Okay?
• 34:35
  So there's cycles. There's tons of books on cycles. This is nothing new for hundreds of year. Okay. And so I sit in there one day and I'm like, well, if there's cycles to earthquakes, if earthquakes have cycles, if pandemics have cycles, if the markets have cycles, if there's war cycles, what's the cycle in my life?
• 35:00
  Like, I wanted to know, is there a like, that would make sense. It would follow. Okay. I thought it was logical. You you guys might think I'm crazy, but I thought it was it made perfect sense.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: So I got a spreadsheet out and I just started. I called my mom and my mom thought I was crazy. And I'm like just peppering her with questions like, when did we live here? When did we move? And what were the significant events growing up?
• 35:21
  And what were the exact dates? And she's like, What do you mean
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the exact date? I'm like, I want to know the exact date. Don't give me the month. I'm searching for something. And I'm only looking at major events.
• 35:36
  We're only looking at very major events in a person's life. There's definitely patterns. I'll just leave it at that. There's definitely patterns. And this isn't foretelling the future and it's not that know on a certain date at 5PM something event is going to happen.
• 35:56
  Because again, we're dealing with cycles and cycles are not precise. Anybody that knows about cycles will always know there's variance. So when we talk about the war cycle in The United States, we have seventeen seventy six and eighty years later is the civil war and eighty years later is World War II and eighty years later is right now. Okay. But we're not talking about it to the very day.
• 36:19
  We're it's for cycles. There's variance to them. That's life. And so anyways, that's a little bunny trail. If people if that excites somebody to start thinking differently about their life, good job well done.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Right? I mean, to me, just to throw a quick point in there. It's those kinds of things that are further proof proof of God. I mean, to me, the people that are trying to disprove God, whether it's through evolution or chaos theory, are just trying to say everything's random. But when you look and you see these patterns in nature, you know, the golden ratio that you see these things happening and showing themselves everywhere.
• 37:02
  I couldn't agree more that these are God's fingerprints that He's left on His design for us.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you this stuff. And I'm not a mathematician by any stretch, but I don't understand how any mathematician can be an atheist. I really don't. I don't even get begin to because I know I know, I don't know a fraction of what those guys know. And it's obvious.
• 37:26
  There's there's elegant. The order is elegant. It's crazy elegant, and it's multi dimensional. You'll be staring at it and working the equation for years and you'll discover fractal patterns, you'll discover layers inside the math, and then you'll jump. And it's not that, you know, I was asked this question the other day, well, do you think that the elite are, you know, orchestrating this all and I'm like, okay, so you're telling me that I can look at crashes in the seventeen hundreds, in the eighteen hundreds, the nineteen hundreds, and now and see the same math?
• 38:06
  No way.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: No. My speculation is that the elites understand this information far better than we do, and have done everything possible to hide this information from us. You know, the reason why they threw Martin Armstrong in prison, because he started to get this, he started to understand this information. And so they're the ones that's like what I heard you mention, say, look, and I actually, I believe that they've taken astrology as an example, and they purposely made it this dumbed down thing of, you know, oh, you know, I find my lover this month, where I believe in what you said, the billionaires are looking at the heavens to understand what's happening while they want us to think that it's just something that will predict your love life.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: So I always say this, you know, we're already we're already kinsmen because I I like the fact that you mentioned Martin Armstrong. I'm like, alright. Let me tell you. I was reading Martin Armstrong when he when the best stuff Martin Armstrong ever produced was when he was in solitary confinement. This the writings from prison will I have them almost all saved.
• 39:12
  And I mean, hundreds. The it it'll blow your mind, the stuff he was writing. Yeah. So Martin Armstrong is just he's Yeah. He's up there, man.
• 39:25
  So And
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So I
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so I wanted to ask, you know, kind of building this picture of understanding Mhmm. Where we're at And the conclusions that I've taken from all of your research and what you've presented, it's not just your research, it's the people that you're bringing to the force, I looked into this person, that person, etcetera, is that every thing that you can look at just about is aligning toward a single event, toward the we talk about a perfect storm, right? Where every condition lines up, and then the storm comes. And so am I correct understanding that every sign that you're seeing, and not just signs of planetary, lunar, calendar, but even just market data, you're looking at peaks and percentages of of everything is pointing towards that we are entering into a potential catastrophic crash of the stock market. And before we get to what that looks like, or potential, one question I would have is, what are the odds of all of this lining up?
• 40:38
  And that and that's is this something that we could, well, it's like, okay, this happens once a year, that happens once every three years. And so mathematically, there's a 5% chance of this. And from what you're seeing, what are mathematical odds of everything that you've seen all lining up on this one time period history. The
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: odds are so remotest to make you believe in God if you just look at the math. Again, because we're talking like 02/2008, '2 thousand and '1, 'ninety seven, 'eighty seven, 'twenty nine, and then you go into the 1800s. Mean, we're talking. This is not every recession. This is not every bear market.
• 41:32
  I don't care about recessions or bear markets. We're looking at crashes. We're looking at panics. Panics. Panics until we got into the last twenty years of Fed policy.
• 41:47
  Panics used to be a very rare thing. Okay, we seem to be producing them every decade now, since we, you know, think we're so smart to manage the global economy. But, but yeah, if you're looking in the twentieth century, you're talking three times. I mean, is big. I said it on Hagman's program.
• 42:11
  This is big wave surfing. This is not, Hey, we'll go down to Venice Beach and there's always going to be a little wave. 70 to 100 foot waves. We're talking storms of the century. To get conditions like that, you have to be at the right place at the right time with extreme conditions to get that type of storm.
• 42:36
  Okay? And that's what we're talking about. So where are we at? That's a great that's a great that's what in August Aaron,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you mind if oh, ask you. That's what I was gonna actually jump to. Ask you to explain the August onto September 23, and then even what you and I had talked about over the weekend, where you told me almost exactly what was gonna happen in the markets on Monday and Tuesday this week, which is what happened. So why don't you kind of walk us through that and then basically paint the picture of what you think the next couple of weeks could look like for us.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: So here's my disclaimer. My disclaimer is past performance is not indicative of future performance. So what I am going to describe was easy part, we'll get to the hard part. So the easy part was we had January to June drop in the market. It was significant.
• 43:34
  Everybody knows about that. Okay. That's that's ancient history. We then rallied into August 16. That was right on schedule.
• 43:44
  Go check out twenty nine, eighty seven, eight. It's right on schedule. You always get a summer rally. We talked on August 16 and on August 25, was on Doug Hegman's program where I laid this out in for about an hour and a half in detail. And I said, look, if this theory is right, what is the theory?
• 44:06
  The theory is that we potentially could be facing the storm. The mother I called it the mother of all crashes. We'll get to in a second. That's a hypothesis. Not predicting them, I had a hypothesis.
• 44:22
  So like any good scientist, if you have a hypothesis, you need to set up tests and we're going to test this theory. There's going to be lots of tests along the way before we can come out and say it's a rule or it's a law. So the hypothesis was we were at thirty four thousand, thirty four thousand two hundred fifty on August 16. On August 25, we were at like 33,200. And I said we should be at the June lows, which at the time was was it like 29,500?
• 44:57
  We'll be at 29,500 by Rosh Hashanah Friday, September twenty third. And I went another hour and a half and I laid out the case of what should transpire. So we closed at twenty nine thousand five hundred and ninety on Friday, September 23. So I guess a couple of people thought that was cool. But that was the easy part.
• 45:22
  And when I say it was easy part, kid you not. That was like kindergarten stuff compared to what we're going get into because you always go back and retest the low. You have to retest the low. So we went back and we retested the low. Then I said, according to what we just discussed, there should be a rally between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur at stage two.
• 45:49
  Okay. Now this one was a little tricky and I gotta be honest, this, you know, in 2987, as soon as we hit Rosh Hashanah, we started rallying. We did not do it this time. Now we stopped, we just kind of just oscillated back and forth for about three days at the support level. It was very touch and go.
• 46:08
  But we were still within that band. We got to get rally into Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur is your final rally. This is your rally. This is the rally of hope.
• 46:19
  Okay. And I said, when you get to Yom Kippur both in '29 and '87, all bets are off, we're crashing. Now when it got to Friday of this week, and I all week on Twitter, all last week, all week last last week with my friends, people are like, do you still believe it's gonna rally? And I'm like, anything is possible. Anything is possible.
• 46:46
  But the only thing I have to go on is history as my guide. Okay? I'm not clairvoyant. Anything's possible, but you gotta stick with the past. That we just discussed.
• 47:01
  I did note last weekend or last week that in 1929 and 1987, we rallied from Rosh Hashanah in Yom Kippur, and it took the entire week. I haven't seen a week long rally since 1987. That's what I began to notice in the charts is that in the 02/2008 rally, we did it for two days. Now we did 11% in two days, which is insane. And I was trading that in o eight.
• 47:34
  And I will assure you if you think the market is volatile now, try an 11% rally in two trading days. It was it was bonkers. Okay. And then we crashed. In 2020, we did the same thing.
• 47:54
  You'll go look at the chart in 2020, you'll see it wasn't two days, it was three days. You'll see a three day, I think it was like nine and a half, 10% rally in three days. And then you immediately went into the crash. I noted that over the weekend that the past two events, they were not week long rallies. They were literally two or three day events.
• 48:23
  So I think I made the prediction or I said, you know, if this is the case, we have to rally. Like we have to go vertical on Monday and vertical on Tuesday to get to Yom Kippur, which starts on Wednesday. And, yes, I know for all the good Jews out there, we're gonna say, well, it could be Friday because technically seeing the sliver of a new moon and the the ripening of barley and all that. I mean, they can get real technical. I'm just going off the charts in nineteen twenty nine, nineteen eighty seven.
• 48:59
  And again, this gets into cycles and even God's patterns. They're patterns. We're not talking about setting your stopwatch to these events. Not going to have a tight leash on God. Let's loosen up the constraints a little bit and just use it as boundary markers is what I'm trying to get people to think about.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Not think about at such and such day and time, some event is going to transpire. Only God knows that. I'm certainly not going to get on the program and tell you stuff like that. I'm just looking at the signs of the times. There's a season.
• 49:36
  There's a time and season for everything under the sun. That's what we're trying to do here.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: So we've rallied into Yom Kippur. Congratulations. Now I put this out on Twitter today. And I'm going to read it because it'll be faster just to read it versus paraphrasing it and then having to explain it. I put this out on Twitter today because I was getting too many people asking me questions.
• 50:04
  And I figured might as well let them off at the pass. Calling for a crash is like base running. You have to get to first base before you get to second. First base was dropping from August 16 high to the June lows by September 23. Second base is a strong rally into Yom Kippur.
• 50:42
  Third base is a drop back to twenty eight thousand seven hundred and twenty five on the Dow by Monday, October 10, with a 800 Dow rally on Tuesday, October 11. If you see that, we will immediately crash into Friday, October 21. Targets will be revealed based upon levels we are at on Monday, October 10 and Friday, October 14. If we get to third base, current math is supporting a 1929 style crash. Like baseball, just because you get to second base doesn't mean you score.
• 51:39
  Okay? I put that last line in there because people are thinking that somehow this is set in stone and here we go. Now anybody who has traded markets knows what I'm talking about. They know that it's literally like sailing. The conditions on the seas can change at a moment's notice.
• 52:01
  The conditions in sports can change. The conditions in markets when you have fear and greed and people competing for money are changing milliseconds. Okay, so you cannot, don't mortgage the firstborn, mortgage the house, don't like think that just because we're on second base, we're going to score a home run. Everybody needs to because analogs and this isn't an analog, but analogs are notorious for your 80 of the way there and then it just veers off. And we've seen that with war too, right?
• 52:41
  We've been at the, you you'll get into a war cycle and maybe you think, Oh my gosh, the Mideast is about to explode and all of a sudden it dies out. Okay. And so what we're doing, all the markets are is nothing but probability. God is deterministic. Everything else is probabilistic.
• 53:07
  He knows, but nobody else knows and that's why we have probability. So I'm looking at this not deterministically. It could very well transpire. I think it has high chances of transpiring. It's probability.
• 53:24
  Now by getting the second base, if we increase the probability by getting the third base. In fact, I don't know the numbers. I know there's probably a baseball aficionado in your audience who knows. But baseball strands a ton of people at second base. A ton of people get stranded at second base and never get home.
• 53:48
  I guarantee you those probabilities go through the roof if they're on third base. Okay, it just opens up steel. There's so the odds of scoring when you're on third base are dramatically higher. I don't know what those odds are, but we can all assume it's dramatically higher. I will say this, if we get to third base, if we get to third base, I'll call for a crash.
• 54:13
  More importantly, because I could care less about calling for a crash or how many Twitter followers I have. I will be massively short for a crash. Okay, this is not an intellectual exercise. I'm not writing a newsletter. I'm not selling anything.
• 54:26
  I'm trading this. Okay, this is not about ego is I don't care if anybody follows me. I don't care if nobody ever interviews me again in my life. I'm doing this for one reason and that is it's like a surfer there for the wave and therefore the experience in or the crash. Now that I then followed that up about a couple minutes later with a little bit more.
• 54:53
  I said I've spent fourteen years studying crashes specifically '29, '80 '7, '8 and recently 2020. They are all identical. High math both in price and time. Check this out, Seth. This is crazy.
• 55:08
  And there's so much crazy math we don't have time to go into. But 87 was 35.93% loss, 02/2005, '20 '20, '30 '5 point '4 '1. What are the odds three of the most important crashes in the last forty five years would be within 0.65% of one another? Hey, before we read any more, Seth, did you know that or have you ever heard anybody say that?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: No. So are you saying that in each of those time periods, you know, '29, '80 '7, '2 thousand '8, and 2020, that within so that 35, say, point 9% in 1987, was that the drop over x number of days? Or is that what
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: that is? They are all from so '87 because '88 '29 and '87 were from all time highs into a crash. Okay? That which is very rare. It's more typical that you have what we had this year where you have months that are perceived that give you the context.
• 56:09
  We go from January to June with no panic, right? We just keep going down, but there's no panic. Okay, that is more typical. Then you have a rally in the summer and then it sets it up for what the Elliot wave guys would call a wave three, which is where crashes occur. In 1987, it took forty days, thirty nine, depends on how you count it, thirty nine, forty days to crash from a high to low.
• 56:36
  In 02/2008, we topped on August 11. It was that summer rally we topped on August 11. And we crashed into October 10. It was four thousand three hundred and forty four days, about four days longer. 2020, '20 '20 is a huge curveball.
• 56:52
  I won't even get into the curveball that's there. But it's elegant math, but you wouldn't know it looking at it. Again, you go from a high to a low. All three of those from that high to the panic low is taking less than forty four days, and you're within 0.65% of one another.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Even the chance of that happening is incredible. So where are we at right now in 2022 in relation to those numbers?
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Great question. So the first wave down. So you're dealing human emotion, all of life is energy. I'm not going to go there today. All of life is energy.
• 57:49
  At a cosmic level, none of this is solid and none of this is real, but we won't go there today. It's all energy. And so it moves in waves, energy moves in waves, And you're indefinitely, this is why we get history repeating, psychology moves in waves. The herd mentality for sure moves in waves. All the markets are as a reflection of human emotion oscillating between greed and fear being plotted on a price chart.
• 58:21
  Okay. And I love the markets because there's nothing that's a pure reflection of society than a chart. Why? Because it's not about what people say. They're literally putting their money where their mouth is.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: So it's the purest reflection of sentiment. Polls are not a pure reflection. People can have lots of opinions that are diametrically opposed to the way they're living.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: So where are we at? Because it's moving in waves, and I've likened it to the ocean, the energy from that wave when it pulls off the beach is going to be used by the incoming wave. Okay. This is why if you, we've heard these stories, if you get, you're standing on a beach and all of a sudden all the water disappears off the beach,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: you run.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: You either run or go to your knees and pray to Jesus because it's a tsunami, man. It's using all that energy that's coming in. Okay. That's the market. Okay?
• 59:39
  You can't you have what's called a wave one. So '87, your wave one down was like 9%. Okay? It was nine. I know that in 02/2008, the down move was like 13%.
• 1:00:03
  In 1929, the first wave down was 17%. Now which one was the biggest crash? 1929. Okay. That move was so big initially that then on the second wave when the water rushed out, so to speak, when you had the rally, that third wave is going to be way bigger than 17%.
• 1:00:28
  I'm not going to get fib math today, but the traders will know it's a fib extension. Okay. It's usually a 1618, a 2,618, could be even as high as a 3,618. There's a fib extension and it's huge. Well, if extensions off a 13%, it's possible, but it's more probabilistic that the bigger the first wave, the bigger the crash wave.
• 1:00:54
  Okay. So where are we at? At the lows last week, we were down 17% on the first wave. We were matching 1929. Okay.
• 1:01:14
  Where do we go from here? So I talked about I finished it up saying 1929 was much larger. It was 45.01%. I'm talking about a third larger. A third.
• 1:01:33
  Pretty significant. If we are crashing those were in all caps, by the way. If we are crashing, targets are the following. 1987 crash target would put the S and P at $27.68 19 20 9 crash target would put it at $23.78 However, there is a mathematical formula that will predict the low. I will mention it on October 14 if we get to third base, potentially much lower.
• 1:02:06
  I will give the audience a clue for anybody that wants to chart this and actually study this. I don't think I've mentioned this on anybody else's program. So here's your golden nugget. I might have mentioned it somewhere, but I didn't go deep into it. Famous Italian mathematician Pareto, eighteen hundred.
• 1:02:32
  He was an engineer mathematician. We know him. It's called the eightytwenty rule. So we've been told about the eightytwenty rule all of our life. I think they've kind of distorted what he was saying.
• 1:02:42
  But anyways, be that as an A, I guess that would be in keeping with everything else they've done, astrology included. So I was reading Pareto back in 2012. It was 2012. And it hit me like a ton of bricks. Holy smokes.
• 1:03:06
  I bet you can apply this to crashes. What can you apply to crashes? 80% of the price damage is done in the last 20% of the cycle. That's easy to test for all you traders out there. Go test it.
• 1:03:34
  You will see that in all four of those crashes, 80% of the price damage done and some of them will come back. The guys that have really do their homework will come back and debate me and go, It wasn't 80%. There an example where it was 75%. I'll go, You're absolutely correct. Horseshoes and hand grenades buddy.
• 1:03:53
  Let's not get too anal on this. Okay? So and I mean that. I think I put out a tweet yesterday because people start to get really anal on this stuff, and that's where you're gonna screw this up. We're not using sniper rifles here.
• 1:04:11
  This is horseshoes and hand grenades. This is literally not trying to squeeze the last drop out of the lemon. That's how you're going to miss this. Because all of us see impart. So, we need to hold these ideas.
• 1:04:33
  Don't call these rules. I call them guidelines. You got to hold them flexible. You got to be flexible in your thinking. You have to be dynamic in your thinking.
• 1:04:40
  You've got to know that these are general principles, but we could discover new principles that would question or invalidate some of these, right? I mean, we've got to not just, is I'm not Moses coming off the mountain with the 10 commandments that you can't violate.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: These are markets. Is history. All that is is probability. So having said that,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: we are at least based upon the wave structure, doing the same. Currently, we are where we were at in 1929. Currently, does that mean we have to proceed further? But based upon what we just discussed about, with the forty five year cycles that marked the two greatest depressions in US history, and they're due in November, it could call it, it definitely says you should be aware that the potential for not just a stock market crash, but a dramatic stock market crash is not just that the conditions are present, the actual wave structure of the market presently. And let's be very clear.
• 1:05:58
  This market in 2020 and 2021 was way more overvalued than even 1929. Like, not even close on the history in the history books. Like like, on on so many metrics, it boggles the mind. It just eclipsed every there's nothing that has come close to what we just witnessed over the last two years. So could we see it?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Say in '29, they constructed a building that was 10 stories tall. Like, when that building crashes, it's significant, but it's a 10 story building that could crash. Whereas right now, it's almost like we've built a thousand story tall building that's global in a lot of ways because of the global markets. So that the it's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Seth. I said on Mike Allen's program the other day, the average person has no idea the complexity on Wall Street. If they saw it, they would never invest in it and they would run. Okay? It is so complex.
• 1:07:11
  The plumbing is so complicated, only a handful, and I'm dead serious on this, only a handful of guys in the world actually understand the plumbing. And they're called on by the Fed when things break. Okay, it's not inside the Fed that they're like, Oh, we've got 10 guys here that can fix that. They can't. This stuff is beyond complicated.
• 1:07:36
  And it's now moving at the speed of nanoseconds. Okay, we're the human mind cannot comprehend how fast this is moving. Why is it done that way? And then the complexity and then we get into the quant guys that came from NASA ten to twenty years ago and literally built the high frequency trading, the black boxes, the derivatives, the derivatives upon derivatives upon derivatives. I mean, and I'll tell you, I'm smart, but I'm not that smart when I start reading that stuff.
• 1:08:09
  And then I'll hand it to I've got a friend who's a bond trader and I'll hand it to him. He's like, dude, I don't understand any. He's doing bonds and bonds are way more complicated than stocks and he has no clue what they're talking about. Okay, this is complexity of an insane order. So as you I'm sure have documented and are well aware of, man, complex systems, man, when they break, they don't break in one spot.
• 1:08:42
  I mean, it's a chain reaction through the hole and you're not going to patch it back together when complex systems like you don't just because they break in so many different and we're seeing that like, perfect example was COVID. Okay, they broke the supply chain. Have a news flash. It's not coming back. It's not.
• 1:09:08
  If you understand global trade routes, if you understand how all the manufacturing process, if you understand how debt and leverage and currencies are involved in global trade, if you under it's not coming back. And the Russians are now telling you it's not coming back. Okay? So don't take my word for it. Take Putin's word for it.
• 1:09:33
  Okay? Take Xi's word for it. And that's just one piece of the economic system that we've constructed. Now, it's a major piece, it's globalism. It's to say that this stuff can, to your point, the orders of magnitude could dwarf 29 easily.
• 1:09:57
  The speed could dwarf nineteen twenty nine. And I will say this, if and it's a massive if in all caps, asterisks all over the place. If it gets into the banking system, it will If you thought your history books of 1931 and 1932 were bad, You ain't seen nothing yet. Okay? Because of the derivatives, because they're all interrelated.
• 1:10:27
  They're all interlocked. Okay? And we're not talking about Lehman Brothers. Let's be very clear. Lehman Brothers was basically I'm gonna dumb it down.
• 1:10:41
  It was housing. Okay. It was housing. It's a dumbed down version. It wasn't the euro.
• 1:10:52
  It wasn't the British pound. It wasn't the British bond market. It wasn't the US dollar. It wasn't that stuff breaking, which is what's breaking right now. And you're not talking about taking companies down.
• 1:11:06
  You're talking about taking central banks.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Contrails. Yeah. Okay.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I think that that's where that was always the end game. If you kick the cam long enough, you're just doubling down on the end results. You're making it, you know, it's like the person with a drug problem, left. If he just keeps going, when you do detox him, he's going to die. He's going to die.
• 1:11:35
  Okay. And then in the medical community knows that. And there's a way to try and keep him alive because you don't just say, well, you know, your problem itself will go cold turkey. I'll tell you, he'll die. And we're at that point where people are like, well, we just need to stop the money printing and stop the I'm telling you, if they really stop everything they've been doing the last twenty years, victim of the Not gonna survive.
• 1:12:06
  Now the country might survive, the world would survive, but not in its present form, I will assure you of that.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: You're seeing and this is a domino effect. And so, you know, and we'll get into the global stuff. I have a lot of questions about that. But so you're seeing that basically with what we're entering into, if this crash continues, like every indicator that you're seeing is lining up for this happening, what does that look like over the next, say, three weeks? Are we talking, you know, 30% drop?
• 1:12:45
  Or as as we're heading into November, where are things at?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: So so that's that's where my tweets came in. So we have rallied into Yom Kippur. Now today was the craziest day in the markets. You thought the last couple of days were crazy, today was the craziest. Okay.
• 1:13:03
  Which is par for the course. Okay. That's not it's going to get crazier. So that's just the way it is. But today was a really crazy day.
• 1:13:13
  I'm as nervous as everybody else. Okay. Everybody else might be nervous because they got four zero one ks's. I'm nervous because I'm short. Okay.
• 1:13:23
  Everybody's nervous. I'm nervous because there's no margin for error. What I'm going to say, there's no margin for error. So the odds of me being correct from here on forward, we're going to rapidly diminish. Not saying that to say I was right.
• 1:13:45
  I'm saying that to say that we're talking. Let's let's let's before we dig into it, let's pause. I find most people at no point in their life really recognize where they're at in history. I went off on a Hagman interview the other day because I really felt strong about it. Very few of us are conscious at any moment of our life.
• 1:14:13
  Okay? That is something that you have to strive to attain and you'll have moments of clarity, you'll have moments of consciousness, but to try and maintain it for twenty four, forty eight hours a week,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: there's very few people in my life I've met who can do that. And
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about is understanding when you're drinking coffee with your wife and at seven in the morning and you're kind of out
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: of it, how special that is. Like really in the moment, understanding what you're doing. Okay, not just giving her a kiss on the cheek and it's old hat and you're kind of tired of her and you know, you just gotta like get in the game and understand what's happening. Or the same thing with your child. When your child is coming to you and asking you a question, of being annoyed, understanding how precious that is.
• 1:15:02
  And we're all human. So we've all gotten annoyed with our kids asking us questions before. Okay. So don't beat yourself up. Just try and maintain that awareness of where you're at.
• 1:15:12
  And I find the same thing with the markets right now. We're in the most complex. We are we have built the most complex system on the face of the earth. We've just come through a a dramatic crisis for most people with COVID. Supply chains have been breaking, which is affecting the economy.
• 1:15:39
  You've got what's taking place in Ukraine and with Russia and China that you have well covered. That's the context. And now in the last six months, you have the European economy and The US economy rolling over. Haven't crashed yet. They're rolling over.
• 1:16:02
  Right? So the table is set is what I'm saying. The conditions are present for what we will now discuss. What would a crash look like? And no, I do not care what the reason is.
• 1:16:18
  I could again, this goes to intent or causation. I could care less. Okay. By the way, in 1929, they'll find a cause, but I already told you the cause. Cause is full moon that occurs within six weeks of
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a solar eclipse. That's that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: was the cause in '29. Somebody go find me a news article of what major event transpired that day to cause that. Not gonna do it. We're not gonna do it in '87 either. Okay?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: We should go down tomorrow. And it should be we should we have to go down tomorrow. And we have to go down Friday. Okay? And we have to go down Monday.
• 1:17:07
  So I'm already putting myself at risk there. I mean, I'm just we have to go down. We have to go down, and we have to go all the way down. So the Dow is at 30,273. We were as low as 28,000, I say $7.25 on what was that Friday?
• 1:17:33
  Okay. We've got to be there by next Monday. So we're going go all the way back. We're going to give up this entire gains and we're going go all the way back there by Monday. I then wanna see an 800 Dow rally on Tuesday.
• 1:17:52
  I know I'm being very precise. I'm not gonna go into why, but it's in the charts. I wanna see an 800 Dow move on Tuesday. If you see that, I will be leaning over third base. I will be leading off that bag so much.
• 1:18:09
  I will be I will be so short because it will not be like what I said on August 25 when I said where we could go. It won't be, well, we should rally into Yom Kippur. Well, now we're on second base. Okay. Well, if we're gonna keep going, we down to the lows by Monday.
• 1:18:30
  It there will be nothing left. I'm kid I kid you not. The only thing left if we're gonna crash, the only thing left is, here it comes. Okay. So what does it look like?
• 1:18:43
  You would go up 800 points on Tuesday. You would definitely close-up. I'm not saying you close-up 800. You would be up 800 during the day. You would close green for the day though.
• 1:18:55
  Could you go up a thousand? Sure. I don't care. You gotta go up 800. You can go up 700, but you know the point.
• 1:19:02
  Again, horseshoes and hand grenades, you're getting up there. And that's a that's a sizable rally. We just saw what that looked like yesterday. That's a on Tuesday. That's a sizable chunk.
• 1:19:12
  Okay? And if you're doing it from the twenty eight thousand level, it's even more on a percentage basis. So it's a good rally. Then you would go literally into an eight day crash. And when I say eight days, I mean, there's not one single day It's eight days of hell.
• 1:19:34
  Okay? If you would like to know what that looks like, well, you lived it once in 02/2008. K? I just described to you the final ten days of the o eight crash. Okay?
• 1:19:50
  I'm not saying we're going to repeat it eight because of that reason. There's other technical reasons why we would do it. At a minimum, you would drop, I'll do some math for you real quick. So that at a minimum, we would do the '87 crash. So you're talking February on the S and P, which would be roughly 22 and a half thousand on the Dow.
• 1:20:18
  I just told you we were at 30,000 on the Dow. So that's pretty significant. If we do a 1929 style crash, you basically get to 2,400 on the S and P, which would be 19,000 on the Dow. Now keep in mind, if we did a 1929 style crash and went to 19,000 on the Dow, do you know we're still not at the COVID lows? Think about this people.
• 1:20:50
  We can do a 1929 style crash and not even take out the support level that we were at on 03/23/2020 that then led to this insanity over the last two years where we went vertical. For that reason and a number of other reasons, I think we're taking out that level. I don't think we're gonna stop there. If we get there, I don't think we're stopping. Okay.
• 1:21:20
  Again, I don't I could tell you my number right now, but I'm not gonna tell you my number because it really doesn't matter. The math will tell you the number next week if we're on third base. Again and for the smart guys out there right now, they could go do the eighty twenty rule, and they could pretty much come close to where the what the number is. I will tell you this. You won't believe the number.
• 1:21:42
  I didn't believe the number. I have double, triple, quadruple. I've checked it, and I'm talk saying I quadruple check it maybe four times a day, and I don't believe the number.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: In terms of just how low?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm looking at the number and I'm like, now I also know there's technical support levels and there's a number of technical tools that you can use that are telling me the same number. And I'm looking at it going, I don't believe my own data. K? I'm sure you know, Seth, you've probably had people that didn't believe their own day.
• 1:22:14
  I mean, there's famous stories where you don't believe what the data is telling you. Okay? Now I'm not gonna say what those numbers are right now because I wanna see us get to third base. If we get to third base, we'll talk about the numbers. There's no point in again, it's everybody's getting ahead of themselves.
• 1:22:29
  What I will say this is if we have a 1987 crash, which I do not believe by the way we're having, I totally do not think that's gonna happen.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Do you think because you think it's much more of a '29 scenario?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: The math says it's much more of a '29. So again, going back to the first wave of so the math and there's more math than just that. I mean, you know? But the math says, yeah, the math says we're not stopping there. So and then my and and the math is telling me at least 1929 and potentially far, far worse.
• 1:23:14
  And we have the conditions set. Look, we got I don't know what the reason is, but we have so many dire world events right now to keep track of. Dude, we oh, let's put a final piece on the table since we've we're setting a nice table for I don't know if we're setting a table for Thanksgiving, but we're setting a nice table.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: It's
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: our last supper.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: The last supper. You don't like that. That's funny. Oh, the last supper. I'm gonna remember that.
• 1:23:43
  Okay. That comment took me off guard because that comment was funny. Okay. Now what what was I gonna say?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, we've got all of these world events lining up. We can't even keep track of them.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The the the yeah. I totally blanked on that. The we are we are definitely it it could it could get out of hand. I'm not concerned about an '87.
• 1:24:20
  I'm not concerned about '87. If we have an '87 style crash, okay, that's bad. Okay. But I just named 87082020. In fact, if we have an seven, in fact I would say this, if we have an '87 style crash, that's a great buying opportunity.
• 1:24:42
  You could put me on CNBC and I'll be, which I can't stand. It would be, yeah, I mean, that's what they tell everybody, right? So it'd be a great buying opportunity. We've seen it, not a big deal. You have a 1929 crash.
• 1:24:55
  Oh boy. Well, that's gonna hurt. That'll leave a mark. Okay. It's gonna leave a it'll leave a historical mark.
• 1:25:02
  I just gave you all the the history. That's not that'll be harder. If we have something bigger than 1929, now because here's the problem with 1929. The problem with 1929 is it got into the banking system. It was no longer contained.
• 1:25:22
  In fact, it got into the currency system because that's why they outlawed gold ownership and began to seize gold ownership and revalue it. Okay? It got into the bonds. It got into the currency. It got into the banking system.
• 1:25:39
  It was not contained. Oh, wait, it was contained people. It was contained. In fact, it was good for the bond market. Everybody flooded to the bond market.
• 1:25:49
  It was actually good for the bond market. And the fed promising 20,000,000,000,000 to the Europeans seem to make them happy. We're not talking about 20,000,000,000,000. Okay. We are not I'm telling you guys, we are not talking about 20,000,000,000,000.
• 1:26:08
  They have at least doubled the size of the derivative position since 'eight. Okay. So this thing could be in the numbers, nobody believes the numbers. We're dealing with numbers that not only do the numbers have no meaning, nobody can conceive of the numbers we're even talking about. Okay?
• 1:26:33
  And I tell this to people, when we talk about a billion dollars, nobody even conceptualize what a billion dollars is, but yet we see that term used on a daily basis. Okay, that is a thousand million dollars.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Right? The average American will never see a million dollars much less a thousand million, the orders of magnitude of these numbers. And then you go from a billion to a trillion. I mean, this is where I'm
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: trying to get people to conceive of just just think about what we're saying. Don't panic. Just think about how this thing can use some logic and reasoning and how this go how this how could it be contained?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Okay. So the point that you made earlier about being conscious of where we are in history and how most people are not, and I agree with that completely. I feel like I spend a lot of my time trying to understand where we're at in history. Right. And where I'm at in history.
• 1:27:50
  And I feel like it's maybe it's a bad thing for me sometimes. I have a hard time pulling myself out of that. Like, almost everything I look at is just from this big, large perspective, just where humankind is. And I couldn't agree more with you. I feel like that we are on the edge of a cliff of some sort.
• 1:28:13
  It's a very, very, very steep cliff. And I'm not an apocalyptic cliff, right, where it's mad max in six months. No. But I I feel like if you look at just everything that's happening because I've been studying food shortages. I've been, you know, trying to understand, you know, you know, war, food shortages, famine, pandemic, you know, the the great reset, agenda 02/1930, all the things that we see that are happening, it's all converging.
• 1:28:44
  And this is just a whole other factor, you know, in terms of perfect storm. And even the the dollar, you know, we have the BRICS nations. We have OPEC, you know, reducing oil. You know, the, you know, the dollar potentially losing its reserve status. What that means, you know, the fact that the all the other currencies are really losing, the dollar is getting stronger and stronger and stronger as if it's all coordinated.
• 1:29:10
  I mean, for me, everything that I'm seeing is pointing to the fact that we're at a time period in history that represents a very, very significant change of our way of life. And to me, it's not a doom and gloom prognosis, it just means it's gonna change. And I think that's not gonna be a very fun change. And so, like, with what you're painting with this on top of supply chain fertilizer, you're talking about, you know, complex systems. Yeah.
• 1:29:44
  To feed a population of seven, eight billion people, you need to have the Haber Bosch process, you have to go to convert natural gas into fertilizer, you have to be able to have global shipping structures that can bring food here. It's the complexity of being able to feed our world is already just insane. And just these processes alone, having the impacts that are coming out of COVID, and not even COVID, now we have this the Ukraine war, it's significant. And so being able to look at what's happening around us and realize where we're at in history, we're not at a time where it's like, well, okay, fine, let, you know, let's turn on Monday night football. You know, that's more important right now.
• 1:30:24
  You know, this, we're, I think that this is, the only way I can describe these events that we're in now is biblical. It's a biblical time period. And bringing in what you're talking about with this is, if I'm understanding correctly, you know, it's almost like if it was an '87 crash that we're getting into, it's like, okay, we can deal with that. We'll get through and keep going. But if it's not, then it's closer to 1929.
• 1:30:49
  If it's 1929, it's not just 1929, because we're already seeing the central banks are in very difficult they're they're in a difficult place. The pound, the other currencies. It's like we're seeing the the house of cards just built on this fiat currency system, where they've removed the gold backing and they're just printing unlimited money. It's like the devil's come in and he says, okay, you've run as far as your leashes unallow you, and now everything is due. Is that, I mean, am I in a similar place to you?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: I think I think the so I think that we're I'll use some terms I'm sure your audience is familiar with knowing briefly knowing you, Seth. I'm sure that the audience is well aware of where we're at in the fourth turning. 1929 started the fourth turning.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Can you just give a quick summary of what you're to with the fourth So
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: William Strauss and Neil Howe wrote this, what I consider I still consider the book The Fourth Turning that they wrote, gosh, twenty years ago. I still if I was time traveling, it's one of five books I would travel with. I kid you not. You could go anywhere on the planet at any time in history and man, that book, you'd own the country, you'd own the future from music, politics, social issues, you would know exactly what was coming. And what it's predicated on is that what the Romans knew, which is that there's generational changes and a generation being twenty years and it makes up there's four generations that make up what's called a sacculum, which ends up being 80 years, which just happens to be the average lifespan of a human.
• 1:32:51
  And that there's a makeup both socially, politically of each generation in totality that it oscillates between the prior generation. So you're much more likely to be similar to your grandparents, which is probably explains a lot of why we get along with them more than our parents. Okay, so I just gave a really dumbed down version of an awesome 500 page book. You should go read it. But in that they made some very eerie predictions of the future and that have transpired and come to pass.
• 1:33:34
  I mean like clockwork and that's a trick when you're predicting it twenty years in advance. That's my hat goes off to any of that. It was revolutionary reading that at one point was required reading in the White House. I know it was definitely read all over the CIA and Langley. I know that he has given briefings at Langley over the years.
• 1:34:00
  So the politicians are well aware. And when I say politicians, not talking about AOC, I'm talking about the real movers and shakers are well aware of what time it is. Okay. And a lot of what we're doing right now is to try and force stall before turning the inevitable. So what is the fourth turning?
• 1:34:20
  The fourth turning is the fourth that fourth generation is called the crisis period. And it is where all the institutions from the first turning have decayed and are no longer offering viable solutions to the problems at hand. Gee, sound familiar? And so it doesn't matter whether it's the church, whether it's public education, whether it's banking, whether it's the military, it's all institutions are failing. It just so happens that all the major wars are fought major wars, Revolutionary War, Civil War, World War II and what we're about to go into are fought in the fourth turning.
• 1:35:01
  And the fourth turning is really an existential crisis period. You are not guaranteed to come through it is literally as an existential crisis, which is exactly what Putin is well aware of is that he is in the fourth turning in an existential crisis. And so here's the good news that you were getting too sad. And this is why my wife and I are building a company and we're totally separate conversation that we're because all the institutions fail on the fourth turning, in new solutions are proposed for everything, everything. Those will be cemented in the first turn.
• 1:35:45
  So when you go through this crisis and you come out on the other side, everything has been washed away and all these new solutions get cemented and agreed upon by society. Those are institutionalized for the next eighty years. Okay, that's cool. If you want to have a voice in what's coming, if you want to be a part of building something new or something transformative, you don't want to be in the second turning. You don't want to be in the third turn.
• 1:36:13
  You want to be right here, right now. Okay? So let's give a quick example. Cryptocurrency. Okay, cryptocurrency comes at the beginning of the fourth turning.
• 1:36:28
  The fourth turning started in 'eight. What is coming along to disintermediate? That's the keyword. What is coming along to disintermediate banking? To discern or mediate contract law and law firms, real estate companies?
• 1:36:48
  Okay, that's one example. What has been happening with the news media over the last decade, if you can't see that is dying in something new is coming up, then you're not paying attention, right? I mean, so and it doesn't matter where you look to homeschooling right now is overtaking. Okay. You can just go through the list and see that the the traditional and so anybody and this is why this is so dangerous for the public is the public wants to go back to yesterday.
• 1:37:25
  The public is always seeking normalcy. There's a pain avoidance principle that most people operate under, whether they know a fancy title for it or not, there you have it. And it's the pleasure pain principle. You're always seeking and gravitating towards pleasure and wanting to avoid pain, which is actually very destructive, dangerous. In fact, all your growth, your growth never comes from pleasure, it always comes from pain.
• 1:37:51
  Okay. And that's what we're going through. We're about to go through a growth period for humanity, We're about to go through a growth period for families. Now what has to happen? Well, it has to be assaulted first.
• 1:38:12
  The idea of a family, the nineteen fifties version of a family has to be torn down and assaulted so that we can recreate the family. Now they wanna recreate it in their own image. It's up to us whether we're gonna redefine it again and strengthen it according to what God defines as a family. Okay? But that's the battle.
• 1:38:37
  Right? So I'm with you, Seth. I'm not apocalyptic at all. I think now what we are about to go through over the next ten years will probably feel like the apocalypse or it'll be as much apocalyptic as you've ever experienced in your life. Certainly.
• 1:38:58
  Okay. So and I I tell people, don't confuse the end of days for your end of days. Don't confuse, you know, the end of the world for the end of your world. And we always have a tendency as soon as anything, you know, is upset in our it's the famous there's you've heard this probably. Seth, what do you know what the difference between a I'll give a really bad joke.
• 1:39:22
  What's the difference between a recession and a depression? You remember this? A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose your job.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. And what we're saying there is it's always the other guy. Right? But when it comes to us, oh my gosh, it's the end of the world. Okay?
• 1:39:48
  And we lose perspective. So what I'm attempting to do on these broadcasts is warn people about a potential financial crash, which by the way they can take advantage of if they're if they're proper, proper, properly suited to do that. But more importantly, that's just, that's just par for the course in the time and the history that we're at. There's way bigger issues that come after a crash that you've been covering. And but we will get through this.
• 1:40:22
  I'm not saying everybody's gonna get through it, but we will get through this. And what is on the other side is not is not determined. It's to be determined. And it's to be determined. I like that flag in the back.
• 1:40:34
  It's to be determined by we, the people. If we ever we have got to get back to the real understanding, the political philosophies that form this nation, the biblical principles that form this nation, the power at all time. I will tell you this adamantly, the power at all times resides with who the people at all times. Okay? They have an illusion that they are in charge.
• 1:41:00
  They have an illusion that they have the power. I'm telling you, the founders of this country understood at a deep level that the power is always we. They do not take power from us. We seed power to them. Okay?
• 1:41:17
  We seeded it with COVID. Okay? We gave it to them. Now we gave it to them under duress, but we gave it to them. Okay?
• 1:41:31
  It's time if the American people are are going to I will say this. This country, it wants to change, it's going to have to change. If it wants things to change, it's going to have to change. Okay? And change starts in your marriage.
• 1:41:47
  It starts in your house. It starts in your neighborhood. Okay? It starts with your friends and family. It doesn't emanate.
• 1:41:56
  This is not a hierarchical power structure, even though they've convinced you that's what we live in. We live in a network. We live in a community and network flows of power are completely opposite hierarchical power structures. Okay? Now that's something for your audience to judge.
• 1:42:17
  Oh. Because they don't because
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Of course. Well, you know, it's and this is where I spend a lot of my time thinking and reflecting on. And, you know, I cover prepping a lot and just not really I only like that I call it prepping. Think it's just returning to how human they're supposed to live. And, you know, there's this discussion of the parallel economy, right, where we're doing the parallel economy.
• 1:42:40
  But actually, I look at it much more from how you look at it that we're building the new future. Because the old future, the old world order, the old guard is in its last days, and they're gonna try to take us down with them as as they fall. And if you look at their system, this is, know, I couldn't agree more with what you said about people want to go back to yesterday. Well, is it not more clear now than ever? Look around us.
• 1:43:13
  Look at all the institutions. Look at the look at the castle that we live in. Look at big pharma. Look at big media. Look at big education, big government, Hollywood.
• 1:43:23
  Almost everything you look at has been corrupted. And you know, in my view by Satan, everything has been corrupted by him. I don't want to go back to that. I want to be part of the destruction of that and part of the rebuilding of something new with God's help and with the lessons that we've taken from the destruction of that. And so I think that yeah, it's going to be difficult.
• 1:43:48
  Even the even big food, you know, monocrop agriculture. You know, know, God didn't intend to us to, you know, to live off of Monsanto seeds and and, you know, pesticides and everything. I mean, it's part of the, you know, process. I mean, it may it's hard to say whether he intended or not. I mean, obviously, it's it happens.
• 1:44:07
  So it's part of his overall plan, I think, to take us where we need to go. Right? So I don't think that believe I don't believe that anything has actually happened on earth that wasn't part of God's plan, as much as it looks like it's a bad thing. Or, you know, I have my brother who passed away from cancer at age 33. How I got through that was realizing that, look, if if God didn't want this to happen, or didn't allow this to happen, it wouldn't have happened.
• 1:44:30
  Right? Like, remember who got kicked out of heaven? It wasn't God who got kicked out, was Satan on the throne. It was the opposite. Right?
• 1:44:36
  So I look at anything that happens, it's like, well, it's that's part of God's plan, whatever it is. I think at the very end, we'll look back and realize that. So I think that that's how I've been able to frame what's happening. And while it's difficult and scary, I couldn't agree more. Like, I think that we're entering into a golden age of humanity like we could never have ever imagined before.
• 1:44:57
  But it's gonna be difficult before we get there.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: I would tend to agree with you. It's interesting. I haven't heard anybody talk about that, but I've got some thoughts on that. Not today, but that's interesting. But you're absolutely right.
• 1:45:16
  Okay, so look here, let's be very clear for the audience. Here's the reason why we're not going back Just in case anybody is still confused. We're not going back because they told you we're not going back.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: Okay? They have a 02/1930 agenda. They have a global reset. You will own nothing and be happy. They have already told you that they are going to reconstruct this planet.
• 1:45:49
  K.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: And it is up to us whether we allow them and this is literally us allowing them. Well, let me tell you, they can wave a central bank digital currency in my face all day long. Not using it. If enough people do that? This is it's it's an illusion.
• 1:46:12
  Satan, he has no how it's an illusion. He he lie it's all through deception. That's how he operates is through deception. Okay? The way that the Israelites failed in the promised land is they ceded authority to the dis to, the deception that they couldn't do it.
• 1:46:45
  They didn't lose battles. They got to the River Jordan and they sent the spies in and the spies come back with a bad report and they go, can't do it. Well, you're right. You can't do it, but that wasn't you weren't gonna do it anyways. It was God.
• 1:47:00
  You've learned nothing. So we're gonna go back into the desert for forty years and we're gonna figure this out. Okay? In forty years later, they had a generation that knew exactly where who had the power And that yes, they could do this with God. Okay.
• 1:47:17
  And why am I saying that? It's a it's a because that is the picture of we we give the devil authority. We give him authority in our family. We give him authority in our life. We give him authority in this world.
• 1:47:32
  Okay? We give these guys that same authority and power. And it will not change unless we change until we pull that authority and demand. I'll say it a different way. Everybody's had a teenage kid.
• 1:47:51
  That teenage kid's bedroom will be exactly what you expect. You expect him not to clean, I guarantee you it will be a sloppy mess. And if you expect it to sparkle and shine, I'm sure he'll figure out a way to please you. It's it's all based upon what we expect and what we will tolerate. It works with our teenage kid.
• 1:48:17
  How about congress? How about what DC? So I
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: think also
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: We're not going How about ourselves? Right? So we're not going back because they're not gonna take us back and I don't wanna go back. Do you what do you mean? Do I want do I really wanna go back?
• 1:48:32
  Like, let's let me go do a recent study of the last fifty years in The United States. Do you really wanna go back to that? There's all kinds of problems when we look at history, we look at and I'm not talking about I'm talking about the growing disparity between the rich and the poor, the tampering of capitalism, the destruction of the democracy in a republic. I mean, I don't want to go back, I want to do it right. Okay.
• 1:49:02
  So this is our chance to your point, Seth. This is our chance. That's why I love the four turnings. This is the chance. That's why I love entrepreneurship.
• 1:49:09
  Entrepreneurship is, hey, remember all those bad bosses and all those bad companies we've had to interact with, we're going to be different. And that's what I think God is saying is who wants to be different? Who's going to set a standard and demand a standard and lead the way? And it's not about getting elected to Congress and playing in there. This is about you being a leader in your family, in your home, in your business, in your community, in your church.
• 1:49:37
  It's about you being who God called you to be. You get enough of that. I'm telling you. Man, I go I go dark. Oh, man.
• 1:49:46
  I'm gonna I'm gonna flip out batteries, Seth.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. I'll I'll full screen. I I can still I can still hear you. Oh, so your camera went off.
• 1:49:57
  Still there, though. Right? So we'll have him back. So I folks, you know, in waiting for Aaron to come back, I hope that you've enjoyed this conversation so far. I knew this is I I didn't say I knew, but I expected this is probably how it would go with Aaron.
• 1:50:14
  I talked to him on the phone a few times, and it just it tends to go in much deeper, bigger, about what's what's happening, where are we really at. So I'm really appreciative that Aaron has spent I think we're almost up on two hours now. I'm very appreciative that he spent this time with us because there we go.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: Hey. Here I am. There you go. Batteries. Yeah.
• 1:50:35
  No batteries. You know? Sorry about that, guys. The the
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: we're gonna get to make we're gonna get to do things right. And and so I think that I you know, you talk about we're gonna have to go through the fire to have some gold to produce something that's pure and refined. Refiners fire. I mean, that's just that's biblical and that's the way life works. Whether you believe in the Bible or not, that's how athletes are forged.
• 1:51:02
  That's just how the world works. And so where it can turn into an existential, I will say this,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: where it can turn into, we are at an existential period in time. This is an existential crisis. I kid you not. There is no guarantee The United States survives at all. Okay?
• 1:51:25
  Neil Howe was clear about that when they wrote the book. You can there was no guarantee at the revolutionary war. There was certainly no guarantee at the civil war. In World War two, are you kidding me? Go study the first two years about war.
• 1:51:36
  Okay? So we are entering an existential period in American history. The way we will not survive is if we continue doing what we're doing. If we are as passive as we have been, Vegas will not give you good odds. So it is up to us, we the people to and I think that that's what is coming is it's a spark that is going to get people to engage.
• 1:52:21
  I raised my son with this, God requires you to do your best and He'll do the right. Anything short of your best is disobedience. Anything short, and he'll take it from there. So but he is waiting. The eyes of the Lord look to and fro throughout the earth that he may strongly support those whose heart is fully his.
• 1:52:47
  Love that verse. God is waiting. He is waiting for the Davids. He is waiting for the Esther's. He is waiting for men and women to step into the darkness to step and speak truth to power.
• 1:53:04
  Come what may. The darkness will shudder when men and women stand up and do that. Only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Look, we have these quotes and let we are coming to a moment in time where they are not some platitude, some quote that's hanging on our wall. They have to be in our heart.
• 1:53:31
  And more importantly, we have to be living according to them. This is ultimately going to not be about the words that we spoke, but the deeds. This is gonna be about the fruit that we bring forth in this hour. And it's an incredible hour. It's an exciting hour.
• 1:53:51
  There is no other time in history I would would rather be born in. I kid you not. This is like and we have saints. We have saints looking down. We have the prayers of those who have gone before us.
• 1:54:05
  Okay? We are living we are I'm telling you the saints in heaven are envious. I'm telling you the early Christians are envious. Okay? I can tell you John the revelator is envious.
• 1:54:16
  Okay? Because we are there. We get to and we get and this isn't about the apocalypse or are we at the end times. This is about what can you imagine what Paul could have done in the twenty first century with this technology?
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: He'd like, he'd have like the biggest podcast or he'd, you know, who knows what, you know, or he
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, everybody Dude, I'll tell you what, Billy Graham wouldn't hold a candle to what Paul could accomplish with this technology. And that's the kind of stuff we got to be thinking about. We got to understand the tools and what God has given us at our disposal for such a time as this. And instead of wishing we were back in the nineteen fifties and the good old days of America, go, this is gonna be awesome. Okay?
• 1:55:08
  Because if you have a list, and I won't go through the whole thing, but I'll tell you, I was on a roll on Hagman's last broadcast when I was talking about the elite God standing up and what God has in store for people. Okay? Because I really do believe it's going to be, and I do believe this stuff, it's going to be the best of times and the worst of times. And a lot of it has to do with you. It has to do with your mindset, your spiritual can do ultimately, obviously, your spiritual condition in in what you are willing.
• 1:55:49
  You gotta let it all go. Okay. Long, long time ago, I was in the military. And I never thought I'd see my thirtieth birthday. Okay, I didn't care.
• 1:56:09
  Didn't care. I was totally abandoned to what I was doing. I didn't have a survival mentality. I had a conquering mentality. And all the guys that I served with had the same mentality.
• 1:56:31
  Okay, we were the tip of the spear.
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: Were special forces,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were special operations. We didn't care. We wanted to be the first guy out of the plane, the first guy through the door. We prayed. I kid you not, we had chaplains lead us in prayers for war.
• 1:56:50
  Okay? We wanted it so bad. Okay? So bad. That's what all we live for.
• 1:56:56
  That's all we trained for. And it was very biblical. You're not supposed to love this world. You're not supposed to love the things of this world. You're not supposed to love this life and you're not supposed to hold on.
• 1:57:10
  Okay? And what I did realize is that the people that tried to survive didn't survive. You can't. That's just the way the world works. But when totally abandoned, A, he's now running the program, you've now let it all go to him.
• 1:57:31
  And that means you can concentrate on what he's called you to do. Whether it's being an entrepreneur or whether it's building this podcast or whether it's whatever he's called you to do. Now you're focused on all the stuff Klaus Schwab wants to do. You're focused on what God wants you to do. Okay?
• 1:57:49
  We get and I'm telling you, it's a numbers game. It's not going take very many people. You know the numbers, the statistics and the revolutionary war and those who actively participated. It is mind boggling. Okay, the amount of change and we're seeing it, we're seeing the devil destroy this country with a small percentage of the populace.
• 1:58:09
  I'm gonna kid you not. It's working again. And I'm waiting for Christians, I'm waiting for the godly Americans to stand up and draw the line and go, we're done. We're done. This is not how this story is going to be written or end.
• 1:58:29
  And when we get that resolve, and I'm talking about talking about Ranger resolve, we're talking about I will kill everybody. We are taking that town, that city and I'm talking metaphorically here. I'm talking about where you are committed to your cause. K? And if that means you're a teacher, you're gonna be the best school teacher in the district.
• 1:58:54
  You are like if you're gonna be
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: a podcaster, you're not gonna phone it in. You're to do everything with excellence. I'm telling you, when we get that attitude where we're bringing it,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: the world will change. It will change and it'll change quickly. The technology is at our disposal.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: Your goal, what you're talking about, I think it'll happen. It'll stun people how fast change can occur.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I couldn't agree more. I also think that we've been living under this dark rain for so long that we can't even conceptualize what life would be like without it. And it'll be mind blowing. I also think that they are way more afraid of us than we are of them. Know, Klaus Schwab might seem like this scary person, all this seems frightening.
• 1:59:46
  But every single thing that I've come across in my research and to the folks I've interviewed points to the fact that these people are so frightened. The head of the CCP, for example, I know a lot of people that have very close connections in a high level, you know, CCP officials, etc, through my work in the media, they are frightened of their own people. As much as they rule with an iron fist, they are so frightened of their own people. And that's what it is. And that's why they try so hard to convince us how powerless we are and how great they are, how powerful they are, because that's their only strength is the is the deception and the illusion.
• 2:00:26
  Because in all reality, they've got nothing on us.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: I look. That is that is the operating principle of Satan. Look, it's always through fear and intimidation. Okay? And he uses deception.
• 2:00:46
  You really think that the guy at the top of the pyramid is in charge? I want to ask an academic. This is an intellectual exercise. I've done this with people. Because if anybody's worked for a fortune 500 company,
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 3: heck fortune thousand, I could care less.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: Are you telling me the CEO's in charge? No way. The CEO might have the nicest suit, might go to the fanciest dinners. He might set the vision, he might tell you what the company is going to do to you as an employee, and to the marketplace over the next year. The power does not reside with CEO.
• 2:01:35
  The power actually in hierarchical structures is in the mid level managers. Okay. The mid level managers are the ones that can sabotage these initiatives, promote the initiatives, put really bad people into those positions for
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: the initiatives to purposefully fail.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: Okay? And in hierarchical structures, which is 99% of power structure on the planet, very few are networks. But in hierarchical structures, we act like the CCP or the elites are a monolith. They are far from monolithic. Okay.
• 2:02:21
  The military is not a monolithic structure, I will assure you of that. Okay. And even in corporations, they're not monoliths. What do I mean by that? Well, the CEO and probably the board of directors definitely are in agreement and have a vision.
• 2:02:41
  There's a lot of different power entities inside that structure. Some on certain days will play along with that vision if it suits their needs. And others want to see the CEO fail because maybe they're bitter about how he came to power. And they're constantly warring. There's constant factions within these power structures.
• 2:03:06
  And we need to understand that we need to stop looking at the WEF or the CCP or what or even our own even our own deep state. I can assure you the deep state as many factions within it. If you think that the intelligence agencies are playing nice with one another, you do not understand how the intelligence agencies work. Okay? These are fiefdoms.
• 2:03:34
  Okay? They're constantly fighting for top dog power, money control. And so
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: they're already set at odds against each other. That's the point of all this. They're not working.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: They're they're not working for towards a common goal in harmony. Okay? This is why I said in the past that the seeds for their destruction are within their plans. They're going to introduce chaos. But even beyond introducing chaos, there's constant division.
• 2:04:05
  And a house divided against itself
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: will fall. Okay?
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: So that's why the devil is always doomed. His whole playbook is doomed because of the principles that he's operating within. And as soon as we start now we know that when we're in Sunday school, and we might know that when we're sitting there in the pew in church, but then we get back into the real world for the rest of the six days, and we're looking at the news, and we're all freaked out. And we totally forget how the world works, what the Bible said about all this and how we're supposed to conduct ourselves. And so this is just me being a long winded way of saying, we need to be different because we are very close.
• 2:04:49
  And it really is up to us. I really believe God is really, he's kind of like, come on guys, Who wants I mean, he gave it to I know we got to wrap this up Seth because we've gone probably way over your time but here's a myth. There's tons of misconceptions in the Bible. Here's what? Queen Esther, such a time as this.
• 2:05:17
  The fate of the Jews was never in doubt. The scripture is very clear. Their deliverance was coming. It was whether it was
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: gonna be by her hands.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 2: It's whether she was going to be a hero of the faith. Was she gonna get what was her level of involvement? God had no intention of allowing the Jews to be slaughtered by Haman. Okay? I'm telling you, the Bible is very clear in that regard.
• 2:05:53
  And I think we need to get that. We need to remember that. We need to grasp, grab hold of that in this hour and go. Because I think we've been too negative. There's been too much talk about about our fate.
• 2:06:07
  Even from the conservative movement. Okay, I've got a lot of bones to pick with a lot of different, just individuals, but factions. We've to get a message of hope that says, why does this have to be in a zombie apocalypse? Excuse me? Like, do I get a say in this?
• 2:06:24
  And I think if I think that that's I think once we do, it's gonna the trajectory on planet Earth can be can be whatever we want it to be.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. So, Aaron, I think that we've gone more than two hours here. I kind of expected going into this. And I felt there's a lot more we could have even gotten into, which I'm sure that we'll have to have some updates.
• 2:06:52
  And I'd love to have you back on for for some of these updates as we watch things unfold. I just want to, A, I really want to thank you for taking the time to sit down and talk with me. I also want to encourage people to follow you. I'll pull up your Twitter feed again here really quickly. So your Twitter is just AGBrickman.
• 2:07:14
  This is the place where you're active. And I know you're not here to grow your Twitter following, but for people that want to follow you, I find myself checking your Twitter a few times a day. Okay. What's happening? What's what's Aaron saying about the market?
• 2:07:28
  You know? Because this is a it is a crazy time that we that we do.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: So you'll so if you're looking at my Twitter feed, if you have it pulled up, you will you will see crazy stuff. So you'll see, like, you'll see charts. That's for anybody following wanting to know what the heck's going on. You'll get and I will comment about, especially in this time period about what I think is happening and keep people abreast of the situation. So it's not like I'm just, it's not like me just posting news.
• 2:07:56
  And then you'll get little silly Scooby Doo memes, which I thought was funny today. Check out the Scooby Doo meme. It's hilarious. Did you go back? Did you go to
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I I I'll pause on it really quick. Yeah.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: That one's hilarious. Exactly. It was just, you know, I mean, it's a it says and I love these these memes because it really is a pictures worth a thousand words. It tells you all you need to know. And I rarely will comment on most of the stuff.
• 2:08:25
  Most of the stuff is like self explanatory and but yeah, for anybody that wants to, I mean, I think we're looking real quick. I think we're looking at a, I think we're potentially looking at a crash. I'll be much more matter of fact, if between now and between Wednesday of the day and next Tuesday, if it transpires. And that's just history. I'm just going by like, this is not clairvoyance.
• 2:08:50
  I'm just going by history. And if we follow history into next Tuesday, that to me is all she wrote. If we don't, then it gets way harder in the sense of timing gets way harder. I still think we're crashing. Let me be very clear, whether or not we're crashing in the next three weeks, that's me making a bet.
• 2:09:18
  That doesn't mean if I'm wrong, happy days are here again and we go off into the roaring twenties. Okay. This thing is coming. It's kind of like Kiev's days are numbered. I just don't know what day.
• 2:09:35
  We're doing the best we can with where we're at with world events in real time.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, Aaron, I think that we did a good job ending on a more positive note, which is good, because I think it's just what we need. I think that that's actually the overall message.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: My message is one of hope because I have and I and I'm a realist. I'm well aware of, you know, where we've come from and where they're trying to take us. But God is full of hope and you got to leave the people inspired, you got to leave the people hopeful because we serve the God who wins. So how could we not be happy and hopeful? And that's what I want.
• 2:10:21
  I want that message to get into conservative, not just you know, good godly circles like this conversation, but in the conservative circles that The message has been too focused on what the elite want to do with us versus what we are going to do. That freak them out. We stop paying attention to them, when we actually treat them like they're the four year old throwing the tantrum, and now the adults are going to just have a side conversation, you watch how bad they freak out.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 3: So
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: It's absolutely true. Aaron, thank you again so much for, you know, gosh, we're over two hours now. I'll be I'll be following you on Twitter. I'm sure I'll be, you know, text texting you here and you hear and back and, you know, in a few phone calls to see what's happening. But I'll be watching the market closely, especially over the couple, the next couple of weeks.
• 2:11:16
  And we'll just, we'll see where things are going to go. So thank you again for coming on and just imparting your wisdom and your thoughts. And I look forward to the next time.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, thank you for having me again. Was a pleasure and honor. Anytime, Seth, you take care.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: That's all right. Thank you so much. Take care.