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COPS: "DRUNK ON CROWN ROYAL" PREGNANT MOM OF 4 MOWS DOWN 16, KILLS 2 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace breaking news tonight. Did a
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  Speaker 1: pregnant mom get drunk on Crown Royale and then plow
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  Speaker 1: into a group of sixteen people, killing two? Yes, according
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  Speaker 1: to cops. Good Evening, I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Within minutes of the crash, at least eight ambulances arrive
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  Speaker 2: on scene as the victim's conditions worsen. First reports say
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  Speaker 2: seven people are injured and three critical. By the time
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  Speaker 2: local hospitals are alerted to a mass casualty incident. Two
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  Speaker 2: people die of their injuries on scene. Thirteen people are
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  Speaker 2: transported to the hospital via ambulance, more than half of
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  Speaker 2: them children.
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  Speaker 1: Dear Lord in Heaven, Okay, I don't even know where
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  Speaker 1: to start. Have you ever seen the English teacher go
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  Speaker 1: up to the blackboard or green board? She starts dissecting
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  Speaker 1: a sentence. Okay, where do I go with this pregnant
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  Speaker 1: mom of four prescription drugs, nearly empty bottle of Crown
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  Speaker 1: Royal in the car, slurred speech, two did fourteen others
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  Speaker 1: in the hospital. There's just so many places to go
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  Speaker 1: with me an all star panel to make sense of
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  Speaker 1: what we know? Right now, including a high profile attorney
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  Speaker 1: who specializes in DUI's. I don't know how you do it.
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  Speaker 1: A drunk mom of Crown Royale. According to cops, she
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been proven guilty yet. But before I go to
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  Speaker 1: Ray Judice, let me go to Aaron Bowling joining us
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  Speaker 1: from Lansing multimedia journalist wilx Us ten erin.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us. What happened? Who is
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  Speaker 3: this woman?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So officers say, Look, the majority of the information we
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  Speaker 5: have on Ashley Monroe's background came from when the judge
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  Speaker 5: asked her attorney, is there any information you'd like us
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  Speaker 5: to consider when setting her bond? Now, her lawyer went
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  Speaker 5: on to say that she has no pending charges, she's
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  Speaker 5: not on probation, she's not on parole, she has no
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  Speaker 5: felony record, she has no misdemeanor convictions. He says, she
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  Speaker 5: has a completely clear criminal history. And he went on
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  Speaker 5: to say she is employed full time with the State
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  Speaker 5: of Michigan Secretary of State's Office.
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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, Aaron Bowling, you are a fountain of facts,
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  Speaker 1: but right now it's more like a fire high trant.
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  Speaker 3: I can't drink it in that quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, So her big plus is she doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a felony record. Okay, that's not what I would imagine
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  Speaker 1: putting at the top of your resume, But I'm more
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  Speaker 1: interested in what you were saying right there at the end.
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  Speaker 3: She works for who?
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  Speaker 5: She is employed full time with the State of Michigan
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  Speaker 5: Secretary of State's office. He says she's worked there as
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  Speaker 5: a clerk for the last year and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just very very curious, raimonds you to say, joining
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  Speaker 1: me high profile criminal defense attorney in the Atlanta jurisdiction.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if she dared to throw that out there. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I work for the Secretary of State because I just
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  Speaker 1: love it when people do that. I remember when Reese
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  Speaker 1: Witherspoon did something like that. Do you know who I am?
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  Speaker 1: And I love her, but that ruined everything for me.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to curry favor with the cops when you're totally
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  Speaker 1: zonked out and that near empty bottle of Crown Royale
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  Speaker 1: ain't helping a thing to you.
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  Speaker 6: To jay No, But what was important was that the
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  Speaker 6: lawyer presented us to the judge for bailbond purposes to
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  Speaker 6: show that she probably passed a thorough Secretary of State's
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  Speaker 6: Office for the State of Michigan background check, which would
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  Speaker 6: not have shown felony convictions. She wouldn't have been on
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  Speaker 6: probation and paroles, she wouldn't have been on the run
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  Speaker 6: from another jurisdiction. So what the lawyer is doing is saying, Judge,
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  Speaker 6: we want to bail Bine because she's a consistent person.
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  Speaker 6: She goes to work for the State of Michigan every
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  Speaker 6: day at eight o'clock, comes home at five o'clock. She
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  Speaker 6: has four children, and she's pregnant, which is another issue
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  Speaker 6: for considering bailbond. The health of the individual. That was
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  Speaker 6: the relevance. I don't know what she told the police
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  Speaker 6: officers have the scene, but the relevance in the courtroom
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  Speaker 6: from the defense lawyer was to show this is a
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  Speaker 6: person that you should give a bail bond.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that a probably in that jurisdiction, a
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  Speaker 1: well known defense attorney could stand up in his Italian
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  Speaker 1: suit and his Italian loafers and his goal Rolex and
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah and have a speech for the judge.
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  Speaker 3: Fine.
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  Speaker 1: I would be mad if she didn't, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: they're getting paid to do. I'm asking about what happened
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  Speaker 1: at the time of the crash. Let me go back
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  Speaker 1: to Aaron Bowling and I like the way you did that.
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  Speaker 1: Look here, not heared you to Shay. Aaron Bowling joining
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  Speaker 1: US journalist w ILX News, Tim, can I get to
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  Speaker 1: the crash because I think I know what they're all
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  Speaker 1: going to say, But what happened at the time of
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  Speaker 1: the crash?
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  Speaker 3: There are two dead people.
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  Speaker 5: Officers did say that she was located within just three
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  Speaker 5: minutes of the first call that officers received, and they
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  Speaker 5: went on to say, you know that her car was
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  Speaker 5: located with severe damage to the front passenger side, consistent
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  Speaker 5: with witness statements, as well as blood, hair and other
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  Speaker 5: tissue on her vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm hearing the facts.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me now is forensic expert, founder of the Cold
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  Speaker 1: Case Research Institute, and star of a Hitney podcast, Zone seven,
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum joining us from her patrol car. Cheryl, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. A lot of people don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl also with Mad madd Mothers Against Drunk Driving Cheryl
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  Speaker 1: mc so, let's break down what we know. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: a pregnant mom of four with a near empty bottle
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  Speaker 1: of Crown Royale. You know what Crown Royale is, right,
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  Speaker 1: because I had so many cases, usually prostitution cases, where
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  Speaker 1: on every crime scene there'll be an empty bottle of
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  Speaker 1: Crown Royale in the corner, gin bottles and pantyhose, that's
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  Speaker 1: what would be left of the crime scene.
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  Speaker 3: And Crown Royale.
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  Speaker 1: A pregnant mom of four with a near empty bottle
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  Speaker 1: of Crown Royale slams into sixteen pedestrians walking along.
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  Speaker 3: The side of the road, killing two.
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  Speaker 1: We've got two dead bodies and a drunk pregnant mom.
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  Speaker 7: This is a family that was walking at six thirty.
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  Speaker 3: I mean this hit like.
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  Speaker 8: It was two in the morning near some bar. They're
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  Speaker 8: walking to go to their grandparents' house. And when she
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  Speaker 8: hit that number of people, the evidence that's going to
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  Speaker 8: be on her car, You're gonna have blood from numerous victims,
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  Speaker 8: hair from numerous victims, tissue from numerous victims. The damage
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  Speaker 8: to the front end of her car would be massive.
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  Speaker 8: And she left the scene. And I just want to
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  Speaker 8: make one other point. This crime did not start at
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  Speaker 8: six point thirty. This crime started the minute she either
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  Speaker 8: went to the liquor store or somehow gained that liquor
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  Speaker 8: and started to drink it.
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  Speaker 7: That's when this crime started.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's break it down a little bit more than that.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me also in addition to Aaron Bowling w I LX,
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  Speaker 1: Raymond Judice from Atlanta, Cheryl McCollum obviously out on the
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  Speaker 1: in the field, Doctor Bethany Marshall is joining us right now,
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  Speaker 1: psychoanalyst from la and you can find her at Dr
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  Speaker 1: Bethany marshall dot com. Her book deal Breaker went to
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  Speaker 1: work on a relationship and when to walk away. Dr
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  Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall. What Cheryl McCollum just said, and this is
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  Speaker 1: what someone like Raymond Judice would hate to hear in court.
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  Speaker 1: That's when his horns and his tail would pop right out,
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  Speaker 1: full of anger. But this is the truth. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just at six point thirty pm. That's not when it
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  Speaker 1: all started. It started when mommy got that bottle of
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  Speaker 1: Crown Royale and downed it. It started when, allegedly when
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  Speaker 1: mommy got those prescription drugs, antidepressants and had a few
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  Speaker 1: of those. It's when mommy got the key to the
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  Speaker 1: car and went to the car, walked to the car,
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  Speaker 1: opened the door, got in the driver's seat, turned on
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  Speaker 1: the car, put it in reverse, put it in drive,
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  Speaker 1: and hit the gas. It's each one of those steps
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  Speaker 1: which shows intent.
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  Speaker 3: That is why I have.
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  Speaker 1: Long advocated there should not be a differentiation between vehicula
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  Speaker 1: homicide charges and murder I charges. They both require intent,
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  Speaker 1: and of course, doctor Bethany Marshall, you know that intent
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  Speaker 1: under the law does not require a long drawn out
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  Speaker 1: plan such just poisoning somewhat over a period of months
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  Speaker 1: till they finally kill over in ten can be formed
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  Speaker 1: and the twinkling of a moment, the blink of an eye,
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  Speaker 1: the time it takes you to raise the gun to
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  Speaker 1: pull the trigger, much less getting completely zonked out of
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  Speaker 1: your gourd and then getting in a car and driving.
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  Speaker 1: So let's address that, Dr Bethany Marshall, Let's.
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  Speaker 9: Backtrack even prior to what you're describing. This is not
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  Speaker 9: the first time this woman has driven drunk. My sense
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  Speaker 9: of this is that she was holding herself together all
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  Speaker 9: day long. She has a been shrinking disorder. She left work,
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  Speaker 9: she went straight to the liquor store and she was
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  Speaker 9: trying to drink as much alcohol as possible before she
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  Speaker 9: went home. See, this was a hit and run you know,
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  Speaker 9: in terms of intent, she kept on driving, so she
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  Speaker 9: knew that she had done something wrong. So this is
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  Speaker 9: not a woman who was in a blackout state. She
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  Speaker 9: had no idea what she was doing. She was cognizant.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy, Grace, bethany E and Aaron Bowling
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  Speaker 1: too much, too Fast. What did you say she knew
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  Speaker 1: she was doing something wrong? You kind of glossed over
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  Speaker 1: that she was very aware.
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  Speaker 9: That this was wrong on multiple levels. Pregnant women should
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  Speaker 9: not drink. She has to go home and take care
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  Speaker 9: of her children. She hit multiple pedestrians, members of a
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  Speaker 9: family walking to their grandmother's house from the park, and
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  Speaker 9: then she fled the scene. This tells me Nancy that
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  Speaker 9: she was not in a blackout state, that she knew
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  Speaker 9: what she was doing. When I first read the story,
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  Speaker 9: I thought, well, maybe she was blacked out and she
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  Speaker 9: had no idea. That is not true. She drove off
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  Speaker 9: the road through a park, went across the center median,
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  Speaker 9: got back on the road again to continue driving. So
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  Speaker 9: this is intent all over the place. This is not
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  Speaker 9: a woman who had a conscience about the people she hit.
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  Speaker 1: Could you repeat that slowly? She drove off the road
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  Speaker 1: and where through a park.
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  Speaker 9: Back on the road, across a center median, away from
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  Speaker 9: the pedestrians, that she hit an entire family walking on
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  Speaker 9: their way to Grandma's house. This is a woman who
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  Speaker 9: knew exactly.
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  Speaker 3: What she was doing.
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  Speaker 9: You know, in terms of substance use disorder, we can
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  Speaker 9: guess that this woman has driven drunk many times. She
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  Speaker 9: has taken care of her kids while she was drunk,
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  Speaker 9: has gone to the hospital for checkups while she was drunk.
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  Speaker 9: This is not a woman who drank for the first time.
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  Speaker 9: Then this has been a long, long lead up, and
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure many people in her community know about her
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  Speaker 9: drinking problem, and I think they are just as culpable
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  Speaker 9: as her. Because she's pregnant, she got behind the wheel.
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  Speaker 9: I can't believe that her husband or her partner doesn't
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  Speaker 9: know that, her parents don't know that, the community doesn't know.
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  Speaker 9: So everybody is complicit in this crime, not just her.
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  Speaker 1: Got to establish some more facts before I go to Maroney.
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  Speaker 1: What about what doctor Bethany just told us. And she's
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  Speaker 1: correct that this mom, a mom of four pregnant, allegedly
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  Speaker 1: drunk on Crown Royale, found in her car nearly And
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  Speaker 1: there's the two couple drops left at the bottom, went
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  Speaker 1: off the road through a park, back onto the road,
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  Speaker 1: and across immediate in.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, what more do we know?
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  Speaker 10: Listen While first responders rush to treat the victims. Clinton
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  Speaker 10: County Sheriff's work to locate the driver. Three minutes after
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  Speaker 10: the crash, Sheriff's notice a car with significant damage to
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  Speaker 10: the front passenger side swerving off the road and over
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  Speaker 10: the center line. Once stopped, cops find hair, blood, and
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  Speaker 10: other tissue on the car. The driver identifies herself as
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  Speaker 10: Ashley Monroe. Officers immediately suspect alcohol may be a factor
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  Speaker 10: in the crash.
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  Speaker 11: On a Saturday evening, a large group of family is
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  Speaker 11: wrapping up their day at looking Glass Valley Park in
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  Speaker 11: Waterton Township, a suburb of Lansing, Michigan. Eight adults and
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  Speaker 11: eight children pack up and start the short walk back
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  Speaker 11: to their grandparents' home. The group of sixteen walks along
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  Speaker 11: the shoulder of South Wolkousta Road. Just before six thirty pm,
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  Speaker 11: an oncoming car plows through the family. Instead of offering aid,
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  Speaker 11: the driver takes off.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. What is Crown Royale? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Released in the US in the sixties, a top selling
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  Speaker 1: Canagan whiskey.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what somebody writes.
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  Speaker 1: By the end of the night, I was pretty intoxicated
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  Speaker 1: but could barely function. I had a hangover from Crown Royale. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all I know is that this pregnant mom of four
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  Speaker 1: was point one eight point one eight. The legal limit
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  Speaker 1: most jurisdictions is point zero eight thanks to mad mothers
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  Speaker 1: against driving. Oh there she is, Oh rough night. Ooh sorry,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't night. It was still daylight. It was six
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  Speaker 1: thirty when a family's plowed down on the side of
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  Speaker 1: the road. Sixteen people take a hit, two dead. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me now is a world renowned medical examiner, doctor William Maroney,
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  Speaker 1: medical examiner, toxicologist, pathologist, opioid expert, and author of American Narcan,
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  Speaker 1: Naxalone and Heroin Fentantyl Associate Immortality. And he has not
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  Speaker 1: only written about it just a talking head that talks
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  Speaker 1: about it. He personally has created a rolling opioid treatment facility.
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  Speaker 1: He is out there in the trenches fighting addiction every day,
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  Speaker 1: not just in the morgue. He's trying to change lives,
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  Speaker 1: not just figure out how people died. Doctor William Roney.
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  Speaker 1: It's real honor and privileged to have you on with
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  Speaker 1: us today. Explain to me what you can in regular
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  Speaker 1: people talk about this mom.
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  Speaker 4: There's important information to build on what Stephanie Marshall said.
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  Speaker 4: Number One, you don't reach that level of alcohol just
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  Speaker 4: once or early in drinking. It's drinking for years.
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  Speaker 3: Number Two, when she says.
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  Speaker 4: Other people know that this person has this drinking problem,
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  Speaker 4: the failure in the system is her OBGYN doctor is
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  Speaker 4: not completing universal screen screening for alcohol and substance use,
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  Speaker 4: so her healthcare provider is failing her. Number Two, she
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  Speaker 4: was hired into a state position that should have also
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  Speaker 4: screened her, so to say she's a state employee and
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  Speaker 4: she's responsible. They didn't screen her to catch alcohol and
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  Speaker 4: substance use. So there's multiple failures there. But the big thing,
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  Speaker 4: the big the C word in Michigan is Cannabis's leading
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  Speaker 4: n royale.
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  Speaker 3: What's the C word?
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  Speaker 4: Cannabis, cannabis, marijuana word.
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  Speaker 1: Sadly, that's not where my mind went when you said
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  Speaker 1: the C word. But what does that have to do
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  Speaker 1: with this marijuana? Okay, I know she's got a really
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  Speaker 1: high blood alcohol.
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  Speaker 4: They're not telling us it's marijuana plus alcohol. Everybody's smoking
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  Speaker 4: in Michigan. Everybody's smoking. We have incomplete toxicology and the
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  Speaker 4: driving is so erratic here it's more than alcohol, so
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  Speaker 4: we have to wait for an expanded toxicology panel.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if there is cannabis, inner system, antidepressants,
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  Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals not with Crown Royal.
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  Speaker 4: They won't release her toxicology until we get the court.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that is so smart. Did you hear that? Raymond?
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  Speaker 1: You to Jay, We don't have a full talks report,
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  Speaker 1: and he's right. We don't know everything that was in
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  Speaker 1: her system.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know if there was potner system. That's a theory.
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  Speaker 3: And again she's innocent until proven guilty. But m here's
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  Speaker 3: a little evidence you might need to hear, Raymond. You
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  Speaker 3: to Jay, listen.
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  Speaker 11: Cops find a nearly empty pine sized bottle of Crown
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  Speaker 11: Royal in Monroe's purse, along with anti depression medication. Officers
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  Speaker 11: conductive field sobriety test with the suspected hit and run driver,
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  Speaker 11: Ashley Monroe. The results of that test have not been released,
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  Speaker 11: but a breathalyzer test performed at the Clinton County Jail
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  Speaker 11: revealed Monroe had a blood alcohol content of zero point
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  Speaker 11: one point eight three over twice the legal limits.
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  Speaker 1: Swerving, booze and meds the booze found in her purse. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Raymond Judice, I don't want to just come n out
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  Speaker 1: and say you're an expert in whiskey. But uh, let's
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  Speaker 1: just talk about what we're hearing right now. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: you did not come to air tonight with a flask
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  Speaker 1: in your pocket.
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  Speaker 3: I did not.
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  Speaker 1: It tells me something about her. Maybe I need to
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  Speaker 1: go to a shrink but Dr Bethany Marshall. But Ray,
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  Speaker 1: she's got a pint in her purse and there's just
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  Speaker 1: a few drops left at the bottom. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about the pot, but I do know that there were
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  Speaker 1: prescription med bottles in her car. So it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: swerving along the road. Witnesses ce or go into a
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  Speaker 1: park back on the road across the media. I got
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  Speaker 1: two dead bodies, Ray, Why should she be treated any
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  Speaker 1: differently because she's pregnant. That opens up the Pandora's box
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  Speaker 1: a fetal alcohol syndrome. I can't believe that Maroney didn't
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  Speaker 1: just come out of the gate with that fetal alcohol syndrome.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that does to children when mommy drinks
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  Speaker 1: during pregnancy.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Nancy, I agree with everything that was said by
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  Speaker 6: the doctor about the combination of this much alcohol with
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  Speaker 6: any type of painkillers, marijuana, antidepressants, percocets. You can go
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  Speaker 6: down the line. It has a synergistic effect. But I
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  Speaker 6: will say, after prosecuting DUIs, defending DUIs, and probably looking
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  Speaker 6: at twenty five hundred DUI videos, roadside videos, field sobrieties,
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  Speaker 6: a good prosecutor with a point one point eight three
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  Speaker 6: breath tests, the empty bottle of Crown Morale and the
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  Speaker 6: accident should be able to prosecute this case with or
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  Speaker 6: without the toxicology. And I'm not saying it's not relevant.
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  Speaker 6: It is relevant, but it doesn't accelerate the case. It
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: doesn't unless they're illegal drugs, then it might. You've got
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: to hold different ball of wax there. But if she's
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: taking lawfully prescribed drugs mixing them with alcohol, it's still
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: the same charges. It's just more evidence. But there's a
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: lots of evidence.
• 20:32
  Speaker 11: If I'm the I'm arguing for a lower bond. Ashley
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: Monroe's defense attorney explains that Monroe works as a clerk
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: for the Michigan Secretary of State and as a devoted
• 20:41
  Speaker 11: mother to her four children, ages thirteen, eleven, seven, and one.
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: Ronald Zowiki vouches that Monroe has no criminal background and
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: also reveals that Monroe is pregnant with her fifth child.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Ambulances eight of them race to the scene that they
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: cannot say. Two of the family members that are mowed
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: down joining me in all star Palellin. I want to
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: go straight to Cheryl McCollum, who not only is a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: crime scene expert, she was also with Mad Mother's Against
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Drunk Driving for years. Cheryl, there's a statistic that is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: always very very alarming for every time someone has caught
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: DUI driving.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Under the influence.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I believe the stat is they've driven how many times drunk?
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: Eighty at least eighty times. And Nancy, I want to
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: you know, just tell you. I got to see word
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: for you. It's culpability. The responsibility is straight with miss Monroe.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: It is not her fiance, it's not her doctor, it's
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: not her neighbor's responsibility. I have never encountered an alcoholic
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: or a drug addict that didn't know it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: They she knew she had a problem.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: This was not the first time that she is driven intoxicated.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: She was twice the legal limit. And let me tell
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: you something, that bottle of Crown role in her.
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: Purse was an attempt to hide it before she stopped
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: for police.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was definitely an attempt to hide it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: A drunk, pregnant Michigan mom of four smashes into sixteen pedestrians,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: killing two. Police say that Ashley Monroe. I'm not sure
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: how far along she is, but showing her pregnancy, had
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: an empty bottle of Crown in her pocketbook, two bottles
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: of anty depressants, and BAC. Blood alcohol level over twice
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the legal limit. So I'm very curious where the.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Defense is going to go.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Of course they'll attack the blood alcohol sample, that'll be
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the first thing they do. But I'm very curious to you,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. You came out at the beginning talking
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: about how everybody knew around her, knew that she had
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a drinking problem. But that may be true, but overarching
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: is that it's not their problem, it's her problem. They
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: didn't let her drive, they didn't let her drink, they
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: didn't pour the Crown Royale for her. She did that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: all on her own. Actually, she probably drank straight from
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the bottle out of that pocketbook.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: So it's all on her.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And how many times think of those eighty times that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum described, which is a leading statistic that is
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: touted by mother's against drunk driving. How many times do
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you think she's driven drunk with her.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: For children in the car.
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: You know, Nancy, I have to respectfully disagree with you
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: and with Cheryl, although it hurts me fun lovatable so much.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I think everybody is culpable.
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: And the reason for this, Nancy, is that their children involved,
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: and she's pregnant. Do you know that in the first
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: trimester of pregnancy, the neurons in the brain are not
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: not yet assigned. So if the person the mother brings alcohol,
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: that predisposes the child to learning disorders, lower IQ, psychological
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: issues throughout the lifespan. This mother a one year old baby,
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: she had a one year old. You can't tell me
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: that she was providing good care for that mother for
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: that one year old with the level of alcoholism that
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: we're viewing here. So the crime is not just smashing
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: into a group of people. There's neglect. So the culpability
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: of the whole community I think is because everybody knew
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: she was a mother and drinking heavily.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Who was there to be a voice for these children.
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: Who was there to say that this mother is is
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: to use your word zonged out while she's trying to
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: mother that. There had to be other people who saw
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: poor and neglectful parenting, and I think they are responsible.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: The other issue, Cheryl McCollum, they damaged to the front
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: end of her vehicle. You're a crime scene tech. You
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: know all about forensic evidence. From what I understand, the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: front end of her car had very significant damage, and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: there is blood and tissue belonging to the two victims
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: quote knitted into the wreckage.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: That had to be a horrible impact.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: If the front grill of her car was that that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: wrecked Nancy.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: If you think about any vehicle you've ever seen that
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: hit a deer, for example, she hit sixteen people, all
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: shapes and sizes. That car fronting damage had to be massive.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: You're going to have blood from numerous victims, hair and
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: tissue from numerous victims. That car is going to be dented,
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: The tail lights are going to be busted, the hood,
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: the windshield, There's going to be evidence all over the
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: front of that vehicle. And you know, when you think
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: about that scene and responded to that scene, it's a family,
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: one family, and you've got somebody as young as two,
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: all the way up to almost fifty, I think, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: they watched two family members die at that scene. I
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: cannot imagine the chaos and the trauma of watching that,
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: hearing that, and then being a victim yourself with great injury.
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: It had to be one of the worst things these
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: first responders have ever come upon.
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: The alleged pregnant drunk driver, Ashley Monroe, is now facing
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: eleven charges related to the crash. Monroe is charged with
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: eight counts of DUI causing serious injury or death and
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: three counts of leaving the scene of an injurious or
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: deadly crash. At Monroe's arraignment, prosecutors hint that more charges
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: may be filed as they learn more of the surviving
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: victim's injuries. Monroe cries and appears distressed throughout her arraignment.
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: Through a public defender, Monroe leads not guilty to all
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: counts to.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Doctor William Roney, joining US Medical Examiner, toxicologists, and author
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: about how many drinks would equal over twice the legal limit.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I believe it is zero point one eight five.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Depends on the size and the weight of who's drinking,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: but that's probably five or six drinks coming out of
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: a pint, and then you need one hour.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: To come down enough.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Well, you'd need four or five hours to come down
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: from that level of drinking to less than not legally drunk.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Any way you look at it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: To get to that level and function as a driver
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: is years of drinking. So that's not somebody who just
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: had some Crown Royal this summer or a picnic or
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: you know, a little something after work. That's years of drinking.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: And that's where you'd have to say family members, people
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: at work, obgyn, it's primary care. Everybody had a chance
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: to screen her somehow. It's universal screening with obgyns. They
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: have to ask you, especially when you walk in as
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: a new pregnancy. New patients should be universally screened in
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: obgyn offices. And then the interesting thing is she tested
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: at the Clinton County jail for the breathalyzer. She was
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: taken to a hospital and those results will not be
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: back for two or three weeks, and that'll be a
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: full broad spectrum drugs of abuse. And that's why they
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: can't tell us what's in her. They can't tell us
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: what the antidepressants are. Just because she had addepressants doesn't
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: mean they're hers. People swap and trade medicine all the time.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: What have the mixture of antidepressants in Crown Royale time
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: space dilation, misperception of speed, and.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Blurred peripheral vision.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: So when she hit those people, she wasn't going twenty
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: miles an hour. She was going fifty five or sixty.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I drive through Clinton County, I've been there. It's a
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: good ems, good law enforcement, but the addiction services it
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: might as well be Roswell New.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Mexico crime stories with Nancy Grace, guys, two people, Dad,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: an entire family mode over by this drunk mom to
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Raymond Judice, you know what's going to happen at trial?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Right as you sit there squirming while the prosecutor gets
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: out six glasses, gets the bottle of Crown and pours
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: each one, or maybe they'll put it in a picture
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that's much more effective, you know, And you pour it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and you pour it and you pour I mean, I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: can't even drink six glasses of water that fast. Much
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: less six glasses of crown really, plus we think the antidepressants.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: We're waiting for.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: That full panel of what was in her blood to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: That's what we're waiting on. WHOA, what do you do
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: at a moment like that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Like look at your fingernails, look out the window, play
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a little candy crush.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: Well, Nancy, when you have to sit through a bad case,
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: you make sure that you have as you say, you
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: focus on the evidence and your obligation and your client.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: But let me direct what I would do is defense
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: lawyer in Georgia. You have to be read what's called
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: the implied consent law. Think of it as the miranda
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: rights for dui charges. So was that breath test consensually
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: given by her? Did the state get a warrant for
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: the blood test? Look, these are the standard issues in
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: any terminals.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: What do you mean the blood test consensual? Do you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: think they chase down a pregnant, drunk lady and threw
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: her down at dick her blood? What do you mean
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: was it consensual?
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, we had we had a strapped down
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: chair here in Georgia until it was a real dog
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: right Supreme Court. So did they Forcully take a test.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: Was she willing in consent? And was she read their
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: state of Michigan's functional equivalent of the implied consent, because
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: you have a right to decline to take either a
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: bread test or a blood test in a DUI case.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: But those the standard charges in every single DUI case,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: whether it's a misdemeanor first offense or a felony the
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Kyle homicide with multiple accidents, these issues are going to
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: be pre litigated because I want to get that bread
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: test out of evidence, so the good prosecutor can't set
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: up the six glasses of or the picture or the
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: pint of Crown Royale. I mean, I know that's coming.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: That's what a good prosecutor to do. Let me just
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: say most prosecutors, and this their biggest problem in this
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: case is to not overdo it. You know, don't o
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: Jay Simpson, it as the prosecution keep your eyes on
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: the ball.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Well, right there, I disagree with you. I wouldn't call
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it an accident, right you know how.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I feel about that. This is a crash. This is
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: no accident.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I know you're going to characterize it as an accident,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: but hey, you know what this is. This is by
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: far the first time that children have been mowed down
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: by a drunk driver.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Does the name Tyler Phillips.
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: Phillips and his sister, Crystal Randolph, both of them were
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: thirteen years old at the time, walking down Granny Road
• 32:44
  Speaker 12: and they were headed to their residents. They were walking
• 32:48
  Speaker 12: southbound in the bike lane when an unknown vehicle struck Tyler,
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: a thirteen year old was killed. Taken from us too early.
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: The devastation that has hurt the family. Words cannot explain.
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: We need people to come forward.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Wake it up.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Every morning I see my son hurts, so please come forward.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Please. Christmas is not going to be the same without him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And who could forget the name Ethan Couch aka Afluenza Team.
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: Ethan Couch was just sixteen when he killed four people
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: and wounded nine others while he was drunk on drugs
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: and speeding. His attorney said it was his parent's fault
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: for never telling the boy no, never having any consequences
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: for his actions. It was called affluenza and the judge
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: bought it. Couch has sentenced to an unspecified rehab facility
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: at his parents' expense. The time he had to stay
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: also unspecified for killing four people, and he still didn't
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: follow the rules.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, does it ever end.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I've got stacks of paper here, and all of these
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: we call similar transactions. Drunk drivers mowing down children on
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the side of the road, mowing down pedestrians that are
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: just walking along the side of the road, Affluenza tine
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: mowed down a Sunday school teacher.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: It just goes on and on. I mean, how do
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: you stand.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: At, Cheryl McCollum when you were working with mad mothers
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: against drunk driving day after day after day, so easily
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: avoidable homicide, Nancy.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Because the lives of these victims mattered, and you have
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: to fight every day because even though we have uber
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: in all these ride shairs and lift, people still make
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: the decision to get in their car intoxicated.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: So we have to get up and do it every day.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: There's no choice. In order for this crime to be
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: reduced in some way. You've not stopped. It's one hundred
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: percent preventable, one hundred stay out of the car. That's
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: all you gotta do.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Prosecutor Deborah Martinez ask the judge for a five hundred
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars bond, saying that had first responders not arrived
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: so quickly, there could have been additional victims. Martinez argues
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that the sheer number of victims should constitute a higher bond,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: adding that the state believes Monroe poses a serious risk
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: to the public. Judge Michael Clarizio agrees with Martinez, doubling
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the requested bond to one million dollars.
• 35:34
  Speaker 13: They did the Sparkler exit where everybody lines up in
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: like sparklers and they go underneath. I'm the happiest I've
• 35:42
  Speaker 13: ever seen her in her life.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: They got on the golf cart. They left.
• 35:46
  Speaker 13: Ten minutes later. We went to our airbnb, which was
• 35:50
  Speaker 13: before their so they were still traveling. I started hearing
• 35:53
  Speaker 13: sirens and literally I looked at my daughter and I said,
• 35:57
  Speaker 13: something happened to Sam. I knew something happened to Sam.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Something did happen to Sam. You are hearing, Mom Lisa Miller,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Her daughter was actually leaving her wedding reception with the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: groom on a golf cart, still wearing her wedding dress,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: when a drunk driver, Jamie Kamarowski plows into them going
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: across grass, just like in the present case, killing Sam
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: on her wedding day. I earlier asked Cheryl McCollum, a
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: forensic expert former state director of Mad Mothers Against Drunk Driving,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: how she does it day after day after day seeing
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: drunk drivers claim lives and reimon jud Jay, as much
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: h el as I've given you for defending drunk drivers,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: how do you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Do it every day?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I know you win a lot of cases practically everyone,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: But how do you do it? Take that toll it
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: must take knowing your client was completely drunk and climbing alive.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, Nancy. Part of the problem is that often,
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: as both of our doctors have pointed out, the defendant
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: may not be the al Capone type criminal that we
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: so assigned to, you know, homicides. Most of them are basically,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: in many parts of their life, good productive citizens with
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: a substance problem, abuse of the substance, and so their
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: whole life is being measured by that day, by that out,
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: the three hours at the bar. And it's tragic because
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: they're often just like this individual. They don't have a
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: criminal history, they have children, they go to a job
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: with the State of Michigan, they pay taxes, and now
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: they're being prosecuted for a type of homicide violations. So
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: they deserve the best. Listen, we have great prosecutors in
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: the state of Georgia. I don't win every case. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: wish I did good folks like Cheryl and mad When
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: I was a baby prosecutor in nineteen eighty five here
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: Intocab County, Georgia, the legal limit was z point one two.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: It's been reduced by a third, and it's been reduced
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: by greater amounts for tractor trailer drivers, commercial drivers, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: young adults. So MADD's done a great job. I'm a
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: citizen of this community. I don't want anybody I know
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: a love or care about to be harmed by a
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: junk child.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You know, Ray, what you said is a dichotomy that
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I could not afford as a prosecutor. Yes, I know
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: this is a mother of four. You think she wants
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to be separated from her children?
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: You know what? You might as well just bet a stake.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Through my heart and take me away from John, David
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and Lucy. You think she's happy behind bars, pregnant, away
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: from her other four children, thinking about what she's done.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: We haven't even said the names Jonathan esh and Daniel Harris.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They're dead, but in my world, in order tocus on
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the facts.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: I can't feel empathy for the drunk mom. I can't.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I have to look at the facts, and the facts
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: are as much as this is a tragedy for her,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: she will live, her children will live. Jonathan ash and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Dale Harris will not, and their families will have a
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: life sentence without them. I do not envy this jury,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and we wait as justice unfolds. Right now, we stop
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: to remember American hero Sergeant Richard Mendez Philly. Sergeant Mendez
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: shot and killed at the Philly Airport twenty three years
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: with the force now awarded posthumously the Purple Heart and
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: metal of Honor survived by grieving wife Alexandra, daughter Mia
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: American hero Sergeant Richard Mendez. I want to thank all
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: of my guests, even the ones that I fight with,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: for all of their knowledge, their expertise that they bring
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to us every night. But I want to especially thank
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: you joining us here at Crime Stories as we all
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: seek justice. Nancy Gray signing off, good night, friend,