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Speaker 1: that our lead this hour from the Cowboys. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: well why not? So now Dallas played the Rams. I
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Speaker 1: can't get into these exhibition games. I can't. I know
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Speaker 1: there are some people that are better people than me
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Speaker 1: that can talk about these exhibition games. I can't do it.
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Speaker 1: I just I can't. I try to watch two seconds
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Speaker 1: of them. I want to puke in my mouth watching
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Speaker 1: this crap. That being said, That being said, I do
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Speaker 1: have a talk show to do right now. And there
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Speaker 1: are some stories that came out of these exhibition football games.
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Speaker 1: One of them Dallas losing to the Rams over the
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Speaker 1: weekend in a practice game, not real game, not real game,
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Speaker 1: a practice game. We Rams won, all right. So quarterback
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Speaker 1: Joe Milton, quarterback Joe Milton, who played for the Patriots
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Speaker 1: last year now with the Dallas Cowboys, and he played
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Speaker 1: in that game, played a lot in that game, did
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Speaker 1: not do anything all that memorable as the QB two
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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. It was at meh, meh performance for
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Speaker 1: Joe Milton, and that was that left bruising his shoulder
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Speaker 1: in the third quarter, so he left the game early,
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Speaker 1: although he was likely going to come out of the
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Speaker 1: game anyway. Around that time. He gave himself a D minus.
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Speaker 1: He gave himself the D the D minus grade on that. However,
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Speaker 1: that's not what I want to chat with you about.
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Speaker 1: It will lead up to that exhibition game. Coaches say
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Speaker 1: the darnedest things. We got a hum dinger humdinger of
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Speaker 1: a quote recently from the coach I say that loosely
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Speaker 1: coach in Dallas. If you did not hear what he said,
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Speaker 1: perhaps not. Coach Brian Schottenheimer shotzi Brian Schottenheimer describing Joe
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Speaker 1: Milton's passes as quote, piss missiles. That's what he said.
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Speaker 1: That's a quote from the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: When speaking to reporters prior to that Cowboy exhibition game
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Speaker 1: with the Rams, he compared his throwing to that of
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Speaker 1: Brett farre, the Hall of Fame former Green Bay Packer quarterback.
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Speaker 1: So you know what that means. Let's parse the words.
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Speaker 1: Let's parse the words here of the Cowboys coach Brian
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Speaker 1: Schottenheimer as we discuss so Brian Schottenheimer up selling obviously
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Speaker 1: upselling backup quarterback Joe Milton saying that he throws quote
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Speaker 1: piss missiles, compared him to Brett Farv Is this something
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Speaker 1: or is this nothing? All right, So I've got twister,
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Speaker 1: hot tub, and cinnabun. Cinnabun is so good. And we'll
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Speaker 1: combine all of these things together, and we are going
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Speaker 1: to make the Gabba Ghoul. We're gonna make the Gabba
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Speaker 1: gol So a where's the beef? The first question is
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Speaker 1: where is the beef? This is a burger. It's not
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Speaker 1: an in and out burger, is not a McDonald's Burger's
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Speaker 1: not a whopper from Burger King. It is a nothing burger,
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Speaker 1: is what it is. It's your typical coach high garbay
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Speaker 1: garbays listen, how many let me ask a questions, how
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Speaker 1: many quarterbacks have great arm talent in the month of August?
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Speaker 1: How many? The answer all of them physically right, They're
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Speaker 1: all listen, they're there, they're in the NFL. They all
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Speaker 1: can make all the throws and all that stuff. So listen,
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Speaker 1: Joe Milton. If you look at the raw ingredients, he's
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Speaker 1: a specimen. He's got the prototypical cannon arm and mobilities,
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Speaker 1: the whole deal, and then some and then some, and
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Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that coaches and scouts get all
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Speaker 1: horny for. They're, oh, man, the problem is it's all unprocessed.
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Speaker 1: It is all unprocessed. And you can throw a fastball
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Speaker 1: and just zing it downfield, and it can also go
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Speaker 1: into the fifteenth throw and that's great. Can you consistently
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Speaker 1: read the defense and find the open receiver and all that?
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Speaker 1: Can you hit the open player more importantly underneath when
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Speaker 1: it's third down and four or are you one of
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Speaker 1: those checkdown charlie guys when it is I say, third
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Speaker 1: and seven, and you complete a pass at the line
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then it gets five yards so you
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Speaker 1: come up short, but your completion percentage is good. Milton
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Speaker 1: was chased out of New England in part because Drake May,
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Speaker 1: who was the chosen one, the chosen one there with
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Drake May was uncomfortable. So those around the
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Speaker 1: Patriots said, with Joe Milton, which is odd because if
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Speaker 1: you look at the resume of the new Cowboy backup
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Speaker 1: quarterback here Joe Milton. His biggest NFL moment, the thing
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Speaker 1: that stands out on his resume was a believe it
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Speaker 1: was Week eighteen last year, last year when he beat
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo bill backups backups in the final game of
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Speaker 1: the regular season, a meaningless game. That's it. That's the resume,
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Speaker 1: that's all. Now, regardless of that, you can't just overlook
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Speaker 1: the fact. And this is why I'm intrigued by this
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Speaker 1: to a point, not just the great quote from Schoenheimer
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Speaker 1: piss missile describing the throws, but the fact that you've
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Speaker 1: got the incompetent Dakota Prescott as QB won there in Dallas.
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Speaker 1: The man is made of toilet paper. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: talking about charman. I'm talking about one plied toilet paper
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Speaker 1: that you see at a truck stop on the side
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Speaker 1: of the Jersey Turnpike. That's what I'm talking about, that
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Speaker 1: one plied toilet paper. He's always hurt. And Jerry Jones
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Speaker 1: knows this. He's aware of this because it happens every
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Speaker 1: year where Dakota Prescott gets hurt. So Jerry Jones is
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Speaker 1: out there playing twister now nobody wants to see Jerry
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Speaker 1: Jones play twister, but Joe Milton is one twisted ankle
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Speaker 1: or twisted knee or tweaked elbow away from playing in
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Speaker 1: the regular season for the Dallas Cowboys. And while again
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Speaker 1: piss missile, great quote, really, good quote, wonderful. However, Joe Milton,
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Speaker 1: if you look at the comparison, it's like, well, he
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Speaker 1: certainly more of a JaMarcus Russell, though Russell was the
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Speaker 1: number one over of the old Oakland Raiders. I'm old,
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Speaker 1: I remember the Raiders played in Oakland, and Brett Farv
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Speaker 1: certainly nowhere near Brett Farrv. Joe Milton in that category. Now,
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Speaker 1: we would enjoy, we would absolutely enjoy watching him play
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Speaker 1: in real game. Now. Why is that, I'll tell you
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Speaker 1: because of chaos with a capital C. Chaos with a
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Speaker 1: capital C. Here it could be awesome, right, real games.
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Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of intrigue there. Why not
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Speaker 1: see what he can do? But for now, we're doing
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Speaker 1: the show right now. For now, this is just a
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Speaker 1: nice puffy pastry in August, a nice delicious pastry served
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Speaker 1: up in August, and Brian Schottenheimer trying to build up
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Speaker 1: the player and give him some false confidence and all that,
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Speaker 1: and that's really what he's going for here. Now, we
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Speaker 1: will revisit this. We're gonna file this one away. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna revisit this around week three when Dak Prescott feels
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Speaker 1: a twinge in his hamstring, and then we'll revisit all
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Speaker 1: this now, Page two. Staying though, staying in Jerry's world,
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Speaker 1: because we had a wonderful mall mate, a wonderful moment.
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Speaker 1: I did not see this live, but let me set
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Speaker 1: the scene here for you. So again, Cowboys preseason. Cowboys
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Speaker 1: playing a nothing game against the Rams in the hood
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Speaker 1: in Inglewood on Saturday. And Ceedee Lamb. That's a high
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Speaker 1: paid wide receiver, not an actual Lamb, a football player
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Speaker 1: named Lamb, Ceedee Lamb. So Ceedee Lamb doesn't even playing
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Speaker 1: the game. Why would he. He's a star, he's a diva.
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Speaker 1: Divas don't play. Stars don't play in these first exhibition games.
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Speaker 1: So fine, he didn't play in the game, but he's there.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't take a snap in the game. He's not
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Speaker 1: wearing a uniform. You're not able to take a snap.
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Speaker 1: And so somehow, some way, this player, Ceedee Lamb, somehow,
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Speaker 1: manages to get the biggest hit of the game. He
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Speaker 1: was involved in the biggest hit of the game. Well,
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Speaker 1: how did he do that? I don't understand, all right,
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Speaker 1: So without even being in uniform again, we'll go back
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Speaker 1: to Joe Milton, the backup quarterback who played a lot
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Speaker 1: because this was an exhibition game. So Joe Milton is
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Speaker 1: in there and he unquirks a deep pass down the
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Speaker 1: sideline to someone named Jonathan Mingo to the Mingo down
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Speaker 1: the sidelines and Lamb who is standing there right on
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Speaker 1: that white painted area, that stripe on the sidelines where
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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be. That literally is the get
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Speaker 1: out of the way zone in football. And so he's
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Speaker 1: in the lane where the officials are running down the field,
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Speaker 1: and sure enough he starts celebrating like this is the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Of course, playing for the Cowboys, they don't
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Speaker 1: actually get to the Super Bowl, so you have to
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Speaker 1: celebrate these kind of things. And so he was so engaged,
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Speaker 1: so caught up into the moment. How caught up was he,
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Speaker 1: Cede Lamb. He was so caught up he did not
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Speaker 1: notice in his peripheral vision a bad situational awareness, did
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Speaker 1: not notice the side judge barely down the sideline in
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Speaker 1: full sprint.
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Speaker 3: Eh Ca Boom came boom.
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Speaker 1: It was great. Obliterated the side a sideline judge there
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Speaker 1: obliterated Ceedee Lamb from behind blind side hit pancake in
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Speaker 1: Madden on the blind side. Fifteen yard penalty for the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys for unsportsmanlike conduct. And it's good to know that
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Speaker 1: the coaches have changed, that the calendar has changed, all
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Speaker 1: of this has changed, all of this has changed, and
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Speaker 1: yet here we are. So my reaction to that particular place, well,
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Speaker 1: yes it was entertaining. It was entertaining, I'll give you that.
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Speaker 1: But my reaction to the Cowboy wide receiver Ceedee Lamb
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Speaker 1: being trucked in a exhibition game that he didn't even
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Speaker 1: play in, I loved it. This was exactly exactly the
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Speaker 1: kind of dopey staff that the preseason is four. That
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Speaker 1: was my first thought. Here, what a bonehead move. And
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Speaker 1: you can't keep your third or fourth or fifth string
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Speaker 1: this guy and that guy and these battles. You know,
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Speaker 1: some people into that kind of stuff, the analytical crowds
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Speaker 1: into that. Give me an all pro level player in
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Speaker 1: street close getting bulldozed by a referee any day. NFL films.
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Speaker 1: You know what they need to do. They need to
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Speaker 1: go in the hot tub time machine. Go into the
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Speaker 1: hot tub time machine and bring back the classic old
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Speaker 1: school NFL's Greatest follies. Bring that back and you can
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Speaker 1: just stream it. You don't have to do the DVD.
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Speaker 1: You don't have to do obviously the VHS, that's old tech.
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Speaker 1: But you can bring back NFL's Greatest follies and slap
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Speaker 1: cdee Lamb in there right in between. The mascot falling
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Speaker 1: off the ATV always a classic, always very entertaining. The
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Speaker 1: quarterback who lines up behind the guard not realizing where
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Speaker 1: they are on the field, that's also very entertaining. Put
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Speaker 1: the Dunce cap on him, and CD seemed to appreciate
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Speaker 1: the fact that he was the butt of the joke.
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Speaker 1: After the game and push you can have all the follies,
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Speaker 1: the usual follies, the fumbles, the ball bouncing off a
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Speaker 1: player's helmet, all that stuff just bobbled passes here, there
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Speaker 1: and everywhere. You know, guys slipping on the logo. And
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Speaker 1: now you can add Ceedee Lamb, the cowboy player not
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Speaker 1: in uniform and taking a shoulder from the side judge
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Speaker 1: there like he's running the Oklahoma drill and it was
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Speaker 1: very very unentertending, so instant classic and the rookie sock
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Speaker 1: puppet coach Brian Schottenheimer out there saying that CD knows better.
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Speaker 1: He knows better, and that is the Dallas Cowboys in
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Speaker 1: a nutshell. As we said, things change, the calendar changes,
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Speaker 1: the names change, the coaches changed, and all that. But
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Speaker 1: even in August, even in August, they're still drawing thumb
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Speaker 1: penalties for nothing, for nothing at all, preseason or regular season.
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Speaker 1: You can count on Dallas for one thing, entertainment at
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Speaker 1: their own expense, and they did it yet again.
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Speaker 1: is this. We react to this? What is this? If
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Speaker 1: you did not hear, maybe not, maybe you're not following
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Speaker 1: the Nevada court system. But it turns out that a
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Speaker 1: Nevada court has cleared the way for a lawsuit that
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Speaker 1: goes back not one, not two, not three, but four years,
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Speaker 1: go back to the year twenty twenty one. A lot
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Speaker 1: of craziness, a lot of people wearing masks and not
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Speaker 1: going out and weird stuff going on. But in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one, there was a lawsuit filed by John grud.
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Speaker 1: Now you know is that's an old NFL coach, John Gruden.
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Speaker 1: He coached the Raiders. Yeah, so John Gruden file lawsuit.
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Speaker 1: Whell A court Nevada has announced that that lawsuit now
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Speaker 1: can proceed against the National Football League and Commissioner Roger
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Speaker 1: the Dodger, Goodell Roger, the Dodger, who normally dodges these
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Speaker 1: type of lawsuits. Now, that suit alleged that a malicious
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Speaker 1: and orchestrated campaign was used by the NFL to destroy
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Speaker 1: John Gruden's career. You might remember the NFL famously strategically
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Speaker 1: leaking all the emails that he had sent, including the
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Speaker 1: things that hit all the big ones, racism, misogynistic activity,
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Speaker 1: homophobic comments, the big three right there by John Gruden,
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Speaker 1: and old emails that were strategically leaked by the NFL.
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Speaker 1: That's the claim. So the Nevada Supreme Court, that's right,
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Speaker 1: the Nevada Supreme Court did they cover area fifty one. Also,
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Speaker 1: they ruled five to two, what even close. Five to
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Speaker 1: two was the ruling. And they said that the arbitration
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Speaker 1: clause in the NFL constitution is let's just say non kosher,
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Speaker 1: that's my term for it, but it does not apply
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Speaker 1: to John Gruden. They claimed as a former employee, that
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Speaker 1: Gruden was not an employee of the NFL at the
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Speaker 1: time the emails were sent. There for he is not
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Speaker 1: under the bylaws of the NFL. Now, Gruden his lawyers
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Speaker 1: react to the NFL. Their lawyers, they declined comment on
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Speaker 1: this particular rule. Did not comment, did not comment. John
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Speaker 1: Gruden's lawyer say that this will help quote hold the
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Speaker 1: NFL accountable. Okay, so let us discuss the question for
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Speaker 1: the esteem panel. John Gruden, certainly this is a win.
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Speaker 1: Whether he wins the final battle, this is a win
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Speaker 1: at this point for John Gruden. He wins this round.
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Speaker 1: John Gruden winning this round against the NFL in court.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on these latest developments the Supreme
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Speaker 1: Court of Nevada siding against against the NFL and in
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Speaker 1: favor of John Gruden. So I've got the Jenga Tower,
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Speaker 1: Morgan Spurlock, and cosplay, and we will combine all of
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Speaker 1: these things together and put a billboard up that says
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Speaker 1: who hurt you? Because every time I drive one by
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Speaker 1: one of those, I just want to laugh. I just laugh.
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Speaker 1: I just chuckle. I do uh. Anyway, So my first
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Speaker 1: thought on this and the latest developments is the plot
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Speaker 1: thickens do do do do do do do do do
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Speaker 1: do do doo? Uh. It's finger Byton time. It's finger
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Speaker 1: Byton time for the NFL. Now, I did send some
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Speaker 1: correspondence out to people that work in that world. They
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Speaker 1: don't seem too concerned. They don't seem to concerned that
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Speaker 1: it's that hubris of the NFL. Wow, we'll ultimately win this.
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Speaker 1: It's just going to delay the inevitable. So I would argue,
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Speaker 1: though there is some finger biting going on because you
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Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know, and for right now,
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Speaker 1: with worry about right now, this is a seismic shift.
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Speaker 1: The NFL was not counting on to the world order
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Speaker 1: of the National Football League. John Gruten, the guy who
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Speaker 1: they tried to have disappear from the face of the earth,
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Speaker 1: is back. Yeah, and he's got a for now, a
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Speaker 1: wrecking ball, a wrecking ball in his hand. It's like
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Speaker 1: a Hollywood special, Worlds Collide, World's Collide. You got the
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Speaker 1: little guy, the disgraced former hero, John Gruden, who comes
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Speaker 1: back from the dead, comes back from the dead, and
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Speaker 1: now now he's got the villain, a big, big football,
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Speaker 1: big NFL on the ropes. It's if you combine like
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Speaker 1: Rocky and then you're throw in some sopranos in there.
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Speaker 1: It's got a little bit of that, a little bit
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Speaker 1: of that. Roger Goodell is in danger of getting the
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Speaker 1: bitter taste of his own medicine. Like the NFL tried
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Speaker 1: to erase John Gruden and now Goodell. You think there's
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Speaker 1: anything in his emails? You think Goodell sent any text
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Speaker 1: messages that might be considered I don't know, racist or
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Speaker 1: misogynistic or homophobic anywhere along the way. I'm just asking,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not. He's perfect, He's the archangel,
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Speaker 1: he would have never done anything like that at all.
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Speaker 1: The reason I bring that up is because the discovery
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Speaker 1: phase will be a hum dinger. A humdinger. Most knowledgeable
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Speaker 1: people who have looked at the case will tell you
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Speaker 1: that is more likely than not based on the prepondence
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Speaker 1: of the evidence that the NFL leaked to hand picked,
23:04
Speaker 1: hand picked friends of the NFL that are in that
23:07
Speaker 1: New York bubble, the Wall Street Journal and the New
23:11
Speaker 1: York Times, the emails. Now, now Gruden gets to go
23:14
Speaker 1: into discovery at this point, this is where we are.
23:17
Speaker 1: He's gonna go in discovery and see what skeletons, uh,
23:22
Speaker 1: he can find in the closets at the NFL.
23:25
Speaker 6: And they have really big walk in closets, I mean massive,
23:32
Speaker 6: and the whole wing of the house is a closet,
23:35
Speaker 6: and they man, is that a big closet.
23:37
Speaker 1: They can go in there and snoop around. And so
23:40
Speaker 1: at this point Gruden not just knocking on the door.
23:43
Speaker 1: He's not knocking on the door. He's got the keys
23:46
Speaker 1: and he's gonna he's gonna have all the lights on,
23:49
Speaker 1: turn them all on, go through everything. And it's not
23:54
Speaker 1: just about John Gruden and some dirty emails. This is
23:58
Speaker 1: about the entire power structure of the NFL. And that's
24:03
Speaker 1: why this is so fascinating. This f's everything up. They
24:06
Speaker 1: for years have had a choke hold on anyone that
24:10
Speaker 1: dares fight them. And this is a look behind the curtain,
24:16
Speaker 1: if it goes the way it's going right now, where
24:18
Speaker 1: John Gruden can reveal a lot of warts, a lot
24:23
Speaker 1: of interesting imperfections in the NFL world. And so the
24:28
Speaker 1: Nevada Supreme Court, in so many words I'll sum it up,
24:31
Speaker 1: told the NFL you cannot be both the judge and
24:35
Speaker 1: the jury. That's essentially what they said. That's how I
24:38
Speaker 1: interpret it. You can't have your sock puppet Commissioner Roger
24:44
Speaker 1: Goodell arbitray a case where he's one of the defendants
24:48
Speaker 1: in the case like that's not how you do this here.
24:52
Speaker 1: And it's so simple, yet it is so beautiful at
24:57
Speaker 1: the same time. I don't know what your position is.
24:59
Speaker 1: My position is. It's simple, it's logical, and it's beautiful.
25:03
Speaker 1: It's kind of like in some shady neighborhood boxing match
25:08
Speaker 1: and you find out that you're watching the boxing match
25:12
Speaker 1: and it just turns out that the referee in the
25:14
Speaker 1: boxing match happens to be the uncle of the fighter
25:18
Speaker 1: who won the boxing match, like just a coincidence, you know,
25:21
Speaker 1: It's just a weird thing. So the league's very bedrock,
25:25
Speaker 1: the very bedrock of the NFL is built on this,
25:27
Speaker 1: and so they do whatever they want whenever they want
25:31
Speaker 1: in NFL circles. And if you don't like it and
25:34
Speaker 1: you want to go to court and all that stuff,
25:37
Speaker 1: you can take it to their little kangaroo court and
25:41
Speaker 1: they always win. They always win. It's like going to
25:44
Speaker 1: Moscow and suing the government in Russia. Okay, you can
25:48
Speaker 1: do that. You're not going to win. You're not going
25:51
Speaker 1: to win. And so now the whole wobbly Jenga tower,
25:56
Speaker 1: the whole giant Jenga tower, is shaking a little. It's
26:00
Speaker 1: shaking a little bit right now Gruden has for now,
26:04
Speaker 1: because of this Supreme Court in Nevada, he has kicked
26:08
Speaker 1: one of the main legs of the Jenga tower and
26:11
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of kicked it down a little bit.
26:14
Speaker 1: So the NFL is essentially a mob family, right, I mean,
26:16
Speaker 1: in so many words my understanding of what the old
26:19
Speaker 1: mob was. And it's still mobs around and all that,
26:21
Speaker 1: but essentially the mob, right, they do things, but they
26:26
Speaker 1: don't do things by the book, and they've got their
26:28
Speaker 1: own book there. And the great Brent Musburger Hall of
26:31
Speaker 1: Fame broadcaster Brent musburg you're looking live, Brent Musburger said
26:36
Speaker 1: of John Gruden. He was the Raider radio play by
26:39
Speaker 1: play guy at the time all this went down. And
26:42
Speaker 1: Musburger said, of John Gruden's removal as the Raiders coach,
26:46
Speaker 1: he called it. This is Brent Musburger, a guy who
26:49
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL since like the sixties. He said,
26:53
Speaker 1: professional hit job. That's Brent Musburger. Hall of Famer Brent
26:57
Speaker 1: Musburger said the NFL took down John Gruden on it
27:00
Speaker 1: a professional hit job by a paid assassin is how
27:04
Speaker 1: Musburger said it. They didn't use the usual media goombas.
27:08
Speaker 1: Now the usual media goombas are state sponsored NFL media,
27:12
Speaker 1: the network the NFL gets sold to ESPN or anyone
27:15
Speaker 1: works at ESPN who's in the tank for the NFL.
27:18
Speaker 1: So instead, as we mentioned, they went to the Wall
27:20
Speaker 1: Street Journal, they went to the New York Times. That's
27:21
Speaker 1: where they went to. And so now the tables have turned.
27:26
Speaker 1: So they've turned, and the NFL peeps, we would imagine
27:30
Speaker 1: we're going to start singing like canaries some of the
27:32
Speaker 1: people involved in this if it gets to the discovery phase,
27:36
Speaker 1: because emails will get exposed and text messages and they're
27:39
Speaker 1: going to try to do the old cya cover your ass,
27:42
Speaker 1: and that's what everyone does now. Page two. So where
27:46
Speaker 1: where does the NFL go now to avoid publicly being
27:51
Speaker 1: pansd publicly being pantsed by John Gruden in the discovery
27:57
Speaker 1: phase of a court case. So what does the NFL
28:00
Speaker 1: do here? So they have to get out the manny
28:03
Speaker 1: and the petty They have to give the manny in
28:04
Speaker 1: the petty discotus. That is where this is going. Next.
28:08
Speaker 1: The NFL will file a formal appeal, which means lawyers
28:12
Speaker 1: will get some more money. They're on retainer anyway, So
28:15
Speaker 1: the NFL is gonna file a formal petition I guess,
28:18
Speaker 1: not really appeal, but petition for appeal, which is an appeal,
28:22
Speaker 1: but it's a petition for a pick. So they're going
28:23
Speaker 1: to file a petition to the United States Supreme Court,
28:28
Speaker 1: the highest court in the land. And if the Supreme
28:31
Speaker 1: Court does not take the case, and they don't take
28:35
Speaker 1: most cases, they don't take most cases, all right, or
28:40
Speaker 1: if they do take the case and they rule in
28:43
Speaker 1: favor of John Gruden, meaning the NFL loses loser capitale
28:48
Speaker 1: l that means it is on like don't keet caong.
28:54
Speaker 1: We're talking about the discovery phase. So listen to the NFL.
28:57
Speaker 1: I mentioned I'd put some feelers out and then just
29:00
Speaker 1: the early vibe I got was hubris. That's my word,
29:02
Speaker 1: that not their word. But there's an arrogance that they're
29:05
Speaker 1: gonna win in the Supreme Court and all that stuff.
29:07
Speaker 1: The nl is not stupid. They're not smart, but they're
29:11
Speaker 1: not stupid, and they know that the discovery phase will
29:15
Speaker 1: be a blood bath for them and if we get there,
29:20
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna try to cut it off at
29:21
Speaker 1: the pass if they have to. Now they assume they're
29:24
Speaker 1: gonna win because they'll just do what everyone does in
29:27
Speaker 1: these cases, and a massage from some politicians, and that's
29:31
Speaker 1: how it goes. And then at the other side of it,
29:34
Speaker 1: the other option would be to work out of court
29:37
Speaker 1: settlement with John Gruden a big bag of cash. I'm
29:41
Speaker 1: talking the late Morgan Spurlock and supersize me. I'm talking
29:47
Speaker 1: John Gruden's lawyers cooking up what do you want, John?
29:50
Speaker 1: You want thirty forty fifty million dollars whatever you want.
29:53
Speaker 1: The NFL is gonna pay it. You know, it's a
29:55
Speaker 1: tax for the NFL. They'll pay it. And Gruden, you know,
29:59
Speaker 1: he had said the quote that it keeps coming up
30:02
Speaker 1: is he wants to burn the house down. So he's
30:05
Speaker 1: going to tell them to shove it. You would assume, right,
30:08
Speaker 1: I don't need your money. I got enough. Gruden's rich.
30:11
Speaker 1: You paid way too much money to do bad television
30:14
Speaker 1: and all that, so he's got a lot of money.
30:17
Speaker 1: So if it's not about the money, it's about your reputation,
30:20
Speaker 1: it's about the principal, and he was humiliated and all
30:23
Speaker 1: that stuff, and he wants his pound a flash, and
30:26
Speaker 1: then what's the NFL going to do. You know, he
30:28
Speaker 1: can't settle. Gruden cannot settle, right, he can't do that.
30:33
Speaker 1: The NFL made sure that he was radioactive. So what
30:38
Speaker 1: Gruden could do is make Roger Goodell radioactive. There is
30:41
Speaker 1: a scenario where Gruden, this lawsuit goes forward, Goodell ends
30:44
Speaker 1: up losing his job as the commissioner of the NFL.
30:48
Speaker 1: That there's definitely some skeletons there somewhere if you dig
30:51
Speaker 1: deep enough in those nice walking closets, and you can
30:54
Speaker 1: get rid of Roger Goodell. And so at this point,
30:57
Speaker 1: John Gruden's got the league by the ball. He's got
31:01
Speaker 1: him by the balls. And just like the man said
31:04
Speaker 1: a famous quote, what do you do when you've got
31:07
Speaker 1: him by the balls? You squeeze, and you keep squeezing
31:11
Speaker 1: until their hearts and minds follow, and there you go.
31:16
Speaker 1: You're on your way. Good luck on that, all right? Now,
31:18
Speaker 1: the last word on this. We'll put the baby to
31:21
Speaker 1: bed on this, John Gruden. So you will get your
31:23
Speaker 1: calls if you want to react to it, and comments
31:24
Speaker 1: and all that. But what kind last word here? What
31:28
Speaker 1: kind of a package deal? Oh, what kind of a
31:31
Speaker 1: package deal could get John Gruden, who has said that
31:36
Speaker 1: he wants, and again his quote was, he wants to
31:39
Speaker 1: burn the house down. So what kind of package deal
31:42
Speaker 1: could get John Gruden to take a settlement from the NFL.
31:46
Speaker 1: As a distant relative of Nostradamus and friend of Nostradinas,
31:50
Speaker 1: he lives in Seattle. He doesn't really react to the
31:52
Speaker 1: show very much anymore. But I've done the investigative work.
31:56
Speaker 1: I've done the investigative work. So we're talking about Roger
32:00
Speaker 1: Goodell doing some cosplay in this world. I believe in
32:06
Speaker 1: the multiverse, So in this part of the multiverse, there's
32:08
Speaker 1: some cosplay and Roger Goodell he addresses up as the
32:13
Speaker 1: old Hollywood star Marlon Brando from back in the day
32:17
Speaker 1: in The Godfather and says, I'm gonna make him an
32:20
Speaker 1: offer he can't refuse John Gruden. And it's about Gruden
32:25
Speaker 1: getting back in the game. The money's one thing. Gruden
32:27
Speaker 1: not need the money. He's rich, He's made a lot
32:30
Speaker 1: of money for a long time, so he's financially set
32:34
Speaker 1: in that regard. In the multiverse, though, you get not
32:38
Speaker 1: only the cartoon sized check for say fifty million dollars.
32:42
Speaker 1: That's after taxes, After taxes, fifty million dollars, you look around.
32:47
Speaker 1: You got Pete Carroll who's beginning his first year with
32:51
Speaker 1: the team in Las Vegas, and he's the oldest coach
32:55
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He clearly has lost it. He brought
32:57
Speaker 1: Geno Smith in, who sucks as the Raiders quarterback. So
33:02
Speaker 1: and we like Pete. Pet's you a nice guy and
33:04
Speaker 1: all that, Pollyanna Pete. However, however, John Gruden, what's the
33:10
Speaker 1: one thing he would love to have more than anything.
33:13
Speaker 1: The job that he had that he thought he was
33:16
Speaker 1: gonna have for another seven or eight years. He signed
33:18
Speaker 1: that ten year contract to be the coach of the Raiders.
33:21
Speaker 1: So John Gruden, with that big, greasy smile on his
33:26
Speaker 1: face from ear to ear, cheshire cat smile, heads back
33:31
Speaker 1: to Sin City coach of the Raiders. And Goodell can
33:35
Speaker 1: make it happen, is anlisten and do us a solid here.
33:39
Speaker 1: We'll give you the money. We'll get you the Raider
33:41
Speaker 1: coaching job. In fact, we'll get you whatever job you
33:44
Speaker 1: want in the NFL. You want, what job do you want?
33:47
Speaker 1: It makes too much sense, John Gruden returning as coach
33:49
Speaker 1: of the Raiders. And you can see it now, the
33:52
Speaker 1: charismatic John Gruden saying Bygones, be Bygones back on the
33:58
Speaker 1: sidelines there with Mark Davis is giving him a hug.
34:01
Speaker 1: They go out to dinner at PF. Chang's and they
34:03
Speaker 1: get the orange Chicken. They have a great time. I
34:06
Speaker 1: remember Mark David said he never wanted to get rid
34:10
Speaker 1: of John Gruden. In fact, if I remember Correfy doing
34:12
Speaker 1: the show and being in the watchdower at that time.
34:15
Speaker 1: The first email dump happened on like a Thursday or
34:19
Speaker 1: a Friday, the John Gruden email dump. Gruden coached the
34:23
Speaker 1: Raiders against the Chicago Bears, and then a second a
34:29
Speaker 1: second wave of emails were dump because the first one
34:32
Speaker 1: didn't work. So whoever at the NFL, in my opinion,
34:36
Speaker 1: you can't sume me for my opinion. Some of the
34:38
Speaker 1: NFL said, all right, this didn't work. We got more email,
34:42
Speaker 1: send those out to the other newspaper that we don't
34:44
Speaker 1: normally do business with, and you know, we'll take down.
34:47
Speaker 1: And that worked. The second one worked. That's it. He
34:49
Speaker 1: was gone. But Mark Davis didn't want to get rid
34:52
Speaker 1: of John Gruden. He was forced to, so he can
34:56
Speaker 1: Goodell can unforce it and bring him back and save
35:00
Speaker 1: his own ass. At the same time, because there's stuff
35:02
Speaker 1: in those emails for Goodell, and he'd be gone and
35:07
Speaker 1: Gruden can stick it to the NFL's a here, I'm back.
35:10
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?
35:10
Speaker 2: Now?
35:11
Speaker 1: I'm back? And of course I don't think it's a
35:13
Speaker 1: pipe tree. I don't believe it's a piper. This is
35:16
Speaker 1: John Gruden's ultimate revenge. So either you tear down the
35:20
Speaker 1: entire league, get rid of Goodell and a bunch of
35:22
Speaker 1: other executives because you release the emails, or you take
35:26
Speaker 1: NFL money fifty million, let's say maybe it's more than that.
35:29
Speaker 1: They have going low at fifty million, and you take
35:31
Speaker 1: the money and then you get whatever NFL coachingw you want.
35:35
Speaker 1: It's yours, hand delivered done.
35:37
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35:43
Speaker 1: Oswago mar contestants for the game. We have some people
35:47
Speaker 1: standing by here. John is in Paradise. Something to assume.
35:52
Speaker 1: That's Nevada where all the casinos are? No? Oh, California, Paradise, California.
35:56
Speaker 1: Where's Paradise. Where's Paradise, California? Where is that about ten
36:01
Speaker 1: miles north of Chico? Oh? When you think paradise, You
36:04
Speaker 1: think Chico, north of Chico, that is paradise. Yeah, absolutely, yes, absolutely?
36:12
Speaker 1: All right, Well John, welcome and you let's see here. Now,
36:16
Speaker 1: what are you up to? You working? Are you just
36:19
Speaker 1: driving around randomly? What's going on? Just my girlfriend's house?
36:24
Speaker 1: Oh look at that. That sounds like a booty called
36:28
Speaker 1: to me late night fun there, you know, took care
36:31
Speaker 1: of business, your big stud, John, Right.
36:33
Speaker 2: Come on, maybe maybe the exact opposite that way.
36:40
Speaker 1: That chicked out of the house at two in the morning.
36:43
Speaker 1: Almost that sucks. That's all right, I understand, I gotcha.
36:51
Speaker 1: Well it happens. So we'll see now, John, would you
36:55
Speaker 1: like to play with myself Ben as your partner or
36:58
Speaker 1: coop a loop mood you want, then I'll play with you.
37:03
Speaker 1: That's how I played. I played with Eddie. We did good.
37:05
Speaker 1: If you really want to make your girlfriend mad, you
37:07
Speaker 1: can play with me. Yeah, right, hello John. Unfortunately Eddie
37:16
Speaker 1: is not available. He's not working here right now, so
37:19
Speaker 1: he's not we I did invite Eddie to the mall
37:21
Speaker 1: or meet and greet. I don't think he's gonna go.
37:23
Speaker 1: I said you can come and hang out and we
37:25
Speaker 1: have him, you know in Vegas, and I don't think
37:27
Speaker 1: he's gonna show up, but I did invite him. All right, John,
37:31
Speaker 1: we'll partner uphold on a second. We have Steve in
37:34
Speaker 1: the Bay Area Hill Steve quickly, Steve Big Thicket. Well,
37:37
Speaker 1: Steve in the Bay Area, welcome out. You want to
37:39
Speaker 1: play with Coop? Yes, yeah, Coop quickly? All right, Coop
37:42
Speaker 1: quickly one of the category. Hurry up?
37:44
Speaker 7: All right, this is the casey Affleck edition. We have
37:47
Speaker 7: two hundred cigarettes Ocean's eleven. I'm still here in Manchester
37:50
Speaker 7: by the Sea.
37:51
Speaker 1: John, what do you want? Quickly? I'm still here. I'm
37:54
Speaker 1: still here. Steve, what do you want? All right? Hold on,
37:59
Speaker 1: We'll get to Malor's mount of Money. We'll get to it.
38:02
Speaker 1: We will do it next.
38:04
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38:22
Speaker 2: what it takes to get to the top? Probably not?
38:26
Speaker 1: And right to the game we go. We have John,
38:28
Speaker 1: who's a little north of Cheeko and Paradise, California, teamed
38:32
Speaker 1: up with me. He just had a disagreement with his girlfriend,
38:35
Speaker 1: and so now he's calling sports radio and we have
38:37
Speaker 1: Steve in the Bay Area. We don't know what Steve's
38:40
Speaker 1: up to, but he's with Coop. So let's get to
38:41
Speaker 1: the game right now. Here we go, and it is
38:44
Speaker 1: the Casey Affleck edition turned to fifty today. All right,
38:49
Speaker 1: so you picked I'm still here, Yes, John, These athletes
38:52
Speaker 1: have all been all been professional athletes for fifteen plus years.
38:55
Speaker 1: They're still playing. Are you ready? I'm going to be
38:59
Speaker 1: all right on forty five seconds on the clock. We're
39:01
Speaker 1: on our way go. Starting quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yes, Cory,
39:08
Speaker 1: he won a Super Bowl. It was called the Elite
39:10
Speaker 1: with the Ravens. He's the Browns quarterback right now. Yes.
39:15
Speaker 1: Starting pitcher for the San Francisco Giants. Longtime Detroit Tiger
39:18
Speaker 1: played for the cheating Astros. Yes, last name is like Romance.
39:25
Speaker 1: He played for the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Miami Heat, at
39:28
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers. He's a forward white guy out of U
39:32
Speaker 1: c l A sure, Yes, that's right. A closer for
39:37
Speaker 1: the Angels. He used to play with the Dodgers, played
39:39
Speaker 1: with the Red Sox. All right, center for the ah
39:50
Speaker 1: You did hundred points. You didn't get Wenley Jansen James.
39:56
Speaker 1: All right, Steve, we have Manchester by the Seed. These
39:59
Speaker 1: athletes are from Massachusetts. Are you ready, Steve?
40:02
Speaker 2: I'm ready?
40:03
Speaker 1: All right.
40:03
Speaker 7: Forty five seconds let's begin. Famous professional wrestler in movies,
40:07
Speaker 7: not the Rock. You can't see him, No, all right,
40:13
Speaker 7: a professional wrestler. He's in movies, but not the Rock. Yes,
40:17
Speaker 7: all right. This guy is Terry Bradshaw's partner on the
40:22
Speaker 7: NFL on Fox. He was a defensive end for the Raiders. Yes,
40:27
Speaker 7: this guy was part of the Killer Bees in Houston.
40:30
Speaker 7: Not Craig Beegio the other guy. Well say that the
40:34
Speaker 7: whole name. Yes, this guy was a He led the
40:39
Speaker 7: Seahawks to the Super Bowl in two thousand and five.
40:42
Speaker 7: With yes, Yes, good job. This guy was a white
40:48
Speaker 7: guy on the bad Boy.
40:49
Speaker 1: Piston that I think it's funny. All Right, we go next, quick, John,
40:55
Speaker 1: What do you want? You want Ocean's eleven or two?
40:58
Speaker 1: Order cigarettes? John? All right? These athletes were all known
41:04
Speaker 1: to smoke. Forty five seconds were on our way center
41:07
Speaker 1: for the nineteen eighties Lakers. He played for the Sacramento Kings.
41:11
Speaker 1: He's got a beard, was the GM of the Kings,
41:15
Speaker 1: that is correct, manager of the Pirates. He was chained smoking.
41:18
Speaker 1: Back in the eighties when he had Barry Bonds, he
41:20
Speaker 1: managed the Detroit Tigers, Ben. She does not want that
41:24
Speaker 1: we won the game.
41:25
Speaker 3: Another win you congratulations John, the all time win