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Did Meghan and Harry Crash Kris’ Party, RHSLC with Zack Peter · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 4: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I've got a juicy one.
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  Speaker 3: I've got our favorite Zach Peter here with all the
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  Speaker 3: no filter scoop and opinions. He does not give a shit.
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  Speaker 3: And we're excited because you two are going to BravoCon
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  Speaker 3: this weekend and you're coming to my show Friday night,
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  Speaker 3: which is the biggest part of the weekend, obviously.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like last time I saw you, I was like, no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to Vegas. I'm not going to BravoCon.
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  Speaker 4: And then in the last like two weeks, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I guess I'm going to Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it'll be fun.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to come and support you.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be fun. I'm excited because, like, you're coming to
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  Speaker 3: the show. Jacques, Chef Stu, of course, Brandi and Julie
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  Speaker 3: are going to be on stage. So it's like we
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  Speaker 3: have our little fun crew. And then it is really fun. And,
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  Speaker 3: of course, we love all the people that listen and
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  Speaker 3: get into this dumb shit like we do. I, of course,
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  Speaker 3: have my show. And I want to remind you guys,
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  Speaker 3: you can now buy the digital streamer. You'll have seven
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  Speaker 3: days to watch it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You can watch it at 10 p.m. on Friday, November 14th,
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  Speaker 3: or you can watch it the next day or watch
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  Speaker 3: it again or whatever. But it's going to be very,
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  Speaker 3: very funny and lots of juicy stuff. I did have
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  Speaker 3: an incident yesterday that happened to me that I hope
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  Speaker 3: does not impact my weekend.
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  Speaker 4: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: I was playing pickleball.
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  Speaker 4: As one does these days.
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  Speaker 3: And I have never been athletic, but I have improved
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  Speaker 3: at pickleball. And I was actually playing like the best
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  Speaker 3: I'd ever played. And I was playing against these two women.
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  Speaker 3: And my son is 6'5, and he's very good because
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  Speaker 3: all men are good at pickleball, but also the taller, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: It's just not that hard. And so they just kept
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  Speaker 3: hitting all the balls at me. And I was actually
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  Speaker 3: doing really well. And I was hitting like the high
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  Speaker 3: ones that I would normally let Drake get. I was getting.
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  Speaker 3: And it was the final point. And I just went
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  Speaker 3: a little too far. And I rolled my foot. Then
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  Speaker 3: fell on my elbow. Then hit the back of my head.
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  Speaker 3: Thank God there was a female doctor there to check
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  Speaker 3: my eyes. Then there were two nice Canadians that got
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  Speaker 3: me ice.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And everyone really seemed to care a lot. But so
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  Speaker 3: I'm wearing my Reebok Real Housewives of Beverly Hills shoes
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  Speaker 3: because the pain is here. Okay. It isn't that bad.
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  Speaker 4: Are you wearing those on stage?
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  Speaker 3: I want to wear my cute heels by Friday. So
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  Speaker 3: we're recording this Wednesday at 11. So I think I'll
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  Speaker 3: be able to do heels. Probably the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: time I'll be sporting these. But I can walk. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I can walk.
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  Speaker 4: I would have loved for you to pull like a
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  Speaker 4: Sutton Strack and get the little stroller. With your little
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  Speaker 4: leg and then the boot or Ramona where you're just
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  Speaker 4: in the wheelchair.
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  Speaker 3: I told Drake.
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  Speaker 4: Just have Drake push you around Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: I said, listen, we do have a call today with
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  Speaker 3: all the MGM ground people where the show is. And
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  Speaker 3: I am going to ask about the access to a wheelchair.
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  Speaker 3: Because anyway, even if you're not crippled, you feel crippled
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  Speaker 3: after three days of BravoCon. So I'm like, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to do it. But it's going to be super fun.
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  Speaker 3: And you just go to HeatherMcDonald.net and you'll go to
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  Speaker 3: the tour and you'll see one. I think there's a
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  Speaker 3: handful of tickets left. If, uh, and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: single tickets, if you want to, you know, you won't
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  Speaker 3: be alone if you're in the audience of Juicy Scoopers. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: but then right there is the digital too. Okay. Let's
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  Speaker 3: get into some hot topics.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So we talked about the, uh, Kris Jenner epic party.
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  Speaker 3: And then the news came out that Kim and Kris
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  Speaker 3: quietly deleted photos of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry from
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  Speaker 3: the 70th birthday bash. So they, removed it from the carousel,
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  Speaker 3: which by the way, as an Instagram person who does carousel,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that you could go back and edit
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  Speaker 3: and take one out.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't either. And then when I learned that, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I guess if you do go in, because you have
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  Speaker 4: the option to edit the photos after you post them,
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  Speaker 4: but I guess you have the option to delete one
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  Speaker 4: of the photos in the carousel.
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  Speaker 3: I never knew that because sometimes I would do that.
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  Speaker 3: And you know how sometimes you do it and you
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  Speaker 3: did like three in a row?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, three.
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  Speaker 7: And it looks, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then I was like, whatever, who cares? Or the
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  Speaker 4: prop looks all off or something. I would love to
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  Speaker 4: go back and fix it.
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  Speaker 3: And I just like left it because I was like, Yeah. So,
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  Speaker 3: of course, the thought was, oh, my God, they deleted
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  Speaker 3: them because they're embarrassed that they're such unpopular people now,
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  Speaker 3: Meghan and Harry, that they didn't want them to. But
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  Speaker 3: then there's been talk that Harry wore this little, like,
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  Speaker 3: red poppy thing. You can see it in his— which is
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  Speaker 3: something that— I don't know if royals are supposed to do it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a thing of remembrance, and you're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: wear it for the entire month of November— And she
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  Speaker 3: was just wearing like a black turtleneck, like a sleek
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  Speaker 3: black dress, and she didn't have it. So the question is,
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  Speaker 3: did she or her people then call Chris and Kim
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  Speaker 3: and say, can you delete those pictures before people realize
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  Speaker 3: I'm not wearing this like This poppy thing. Which, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, I want to say, if that's the case,
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  Speaker 3: then you're actually never being invited back because that is
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  Speaker 3: so fucking annoying. If they did a whole post and
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  Speaker 3: then got a call that they or their people now
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  Speaker 3: have to remove you. Now you're annoying.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now you're removed from the list for all future events.
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  Speaker 3: But no.
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  Speaker 4: So but they had just come from the Baby to
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  Speaker 4: Baby Gala and they were posing for photos at the baby.
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  Speaker 4: Like they came. Megan and Harry. They were at the
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  Speaker 4: Baby to Baby Gala to support their best friend Serena Williams,
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  Speaker 4: who met them for the first time that night. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 4: So they were there because they have the same clothes on,
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  Speaker 4: same outfits, posing for photos there. So everyone– all the
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  Speaker 4: theories about how they wanted Chris and Kim to take
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  Speaker 4: down the photos, one, I think that would be stupid
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  Speaker 4: because all that does is piss off the Kardashians to
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  Speaker 4: make them go in and edit.
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  Speaker 3: After a big party now, they have to go do
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  Speaker 3: another thing. That is so annoying. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know– I feel like it maybe was deliberate.
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  Speaker 4: My theory was like, maybe they weren't invited to the party.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe they had like a publicist or a friend that's like,
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  Speaker 4: I'll get you in. And so they ended up crashing
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  Speaker 4: the party after the baby to baby gala. And then
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  Speaker 4: Chris and Kim were like, oh, they're here. And then
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  Speaker 4: when they found out that they crashed the party, maybe
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  Speaker 4: then they deleted them because they didn't want anything to
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  Speaker 4: do with them. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: In my day of going to the Christmas parties.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Did they ever delete you from the?
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  Speaker 3: No, but there was. Oh, there was one time I
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  Speaker 3: got invited to a girl's dinner, birthday dinner.
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  Speaker 4: For Chris.
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  Speaker 3: Um, and we were, somebody gave her like a Chris,
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  Speaker 3: you know, her birthday, obviously in November. So somebody gave
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  Speaker 3: her something that was like holiday or whatever. And she
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  Speaker 3: was like, and we were all taking these photos. We,
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  Speaker 3: she knew we were all taking photos, only like 12
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  Speaker 3: of us. And I posted it. And then at like
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  Speaker 3: five 30 in the morning, I wake up and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, please remove that photo. I don't like it
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  Speaker 3: or something. I mean, if I tell you the heart
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  Speaker 3: in the throat, a trickle of pee in my bed,
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  Speaker 3: like I was terrified. Now, if anybody is like a
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  Speaker 3: bigger star than me, even if you're not, I'm always like,
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  Speaker 3: heart it. Heart the photo that I can post. Either
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  Speaker 3: take it and give yourself bigger teeth.
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  Speaker 4: Do me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care because I don't do the filters on
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  Speaker 3: the photos. But if somebody, like sometimes I have someone
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  Speaker 3: come to the show and they're really good at it.
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  Speaker 3: And I go, you take it. And then send me
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  Speaker 3: the one you want. And then everyone's like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 3: you look so gorgeous. I'm like, yeah, because that's a
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  Speaker 3: fucking filter. And I don't do that. But I don't
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  Speaker 3: do that just because I'm not good at it. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a talent. And anyway, so I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I just... And then another time when I went to
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  Speaker 3: the Christmas parties, there was friends of ours that enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: getting a little too wasted. And one of... I won't
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  Speaker 3: just because I don't want to figure out. There was
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  Speaker 3: a couple. And one of them, like, left their phone, like,
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  Speaker 3: like we're at the house on Christmas Eve. So then
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  Speaker 3: Christmas day, it was just a big rat fuck of like,
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  Speaker 3: while they're trying to open presents and they're recovering from their,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a hundred thousand dollar party that they invited
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  Speaker 3: you to, that you walked away with a black and
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  Speaker 3: white kettle. Now it's like, okay, well, are you coming
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  Speaker 3: into the gate? Is someone bringing the phone to you?
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  Speaker 3: Like it was just, and I was like, oh, those
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  Speaker 3: people are going to get off the list. And they were,
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  Speaker 3: I got to stay a couple more years, but. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's little things like that that I'm like the year
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  Speaker 3: that my sons were like wrestling in the fake snow
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  Speaker 3: near the real deer. I was like, I knew our
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  Speaker 3: days were numbered. Like I just it's just so I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. So what do you think happened? Was it
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  Speaker 3: the poppy thing or was it the.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think they were party crashers. And I think
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  Speaker 4: the Kardashians are like, we don't like that energy.
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  Speaker 3: So what do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: Because they— I think someone— I think they got— I think Meghan
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  Speaker 4: pushed her way into the party, was not originally on
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  Speaker 4: the invite list. Because, like, Meghan wasn't even invited to— this
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  Speaker 4: was Jeff Bezos' party for Kris Jenner. Him and Lauren
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  Speaker 4: Sanchez hosted this for Kris for her 70th birthday.
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  Speaker 3: But it's her list. Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 4: But they also, like— they don't even like Meghan Markle, is
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  Speaker 4: my point. They didn't even invite her to the wedding
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  Speaker 4: that all the celebs were invited to, and the Kardashians
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  Speaker 4: were at the wedding, the Bezos wedding.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So like, I'm trying to figure out how, like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think the Bezos would have invited her and I
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  Speaker 4: don't think the Kardashians would have invited her.
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  Speaker 3: So you think she knew about it? Because we did know.
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  Speaker 3: We knew a couple of days before that it was
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  Speaker 3: at the Bezos mansion. You think she just was like,
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  Speaker 3: before we head home to Montecito, let's just do a
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  Speaker 3: little loop de loop. And once we show up, no
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  Speaker 3: one's going to say you can't come in.
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  Speaker 4: No one's going to say you can't come in. And
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  Speaker 4: she probably knew like a publicist or somebody that was
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  Speaker 4: at the party that could help finagle her way in.
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  Speaker 3: So then who removed it? Do you think Chris and
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  Speaker 3: Kim removed it because they realized she was never invited
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  Speaker 3: and that pissed them off? Oh, that's a good theory.
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  Speaker 4: Because if you think about you're posing with photos for
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  Speaker 4: them and then you're like, oh, like, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: then you find out that they weren't even invited to
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  Speaker 4: the party and somehow they snuck their way in. Like
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  Speaker 4: that's an immediate cross off the list.
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  Speaker 3: I have talked about how I know some like info
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  Speaker 3: from some of the like rich millennial people that they've
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  Speaker 3: tried to be friends with.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they do stuff like that. They they're like we
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  Speaker 3: or at least they did. oh, we love Aspen. When
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  Speaker 3: are you not using your house? And then all of
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: a sudden they go, okay, fine, you can use the
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  Speaker 3: house that week. And then they're like, and then where
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  Speaker 3: do we get in the jet? Knowing they have a jet.
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  Speaker 3: And now they're on a private jet that the rich
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  Speaker 3: person's paying for. And then they're like, how did I
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  Speaker 3: get roped into it? But the friendship doesn't continue past that.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, so it's a good grift. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's all through her and then he finalizes it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like he does the finalization in the English accent.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see what happened with her candles?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: So this guy. Link. This guy who, what's his name? Link.
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  Speaker 7: Link Lauren.
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  Speaker 4: He's a friend of mine.
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  Speaker 3: He's a unique, funny guy. He's quite conservative. Yeah. But
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  Speaker 3: blonde hair, gay, fashionable, but like, and he opened up
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  Speaker 3: the candle. He ordered it. And it didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: wick at all. Like it wasn't that it was short.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there was no wick.
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  Speaker 4: There was no wick.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, how much is it? Like $ 18 or
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  Speaker 3: some ridiculous price that a candle is a candle. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And there's no exchanges. You can't return it. So he's like, wait,
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  Speaker 4: I bought this defunct product where there's no wick in
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  Speaker 4: the candle and I can't even get my money back
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  Speaker 4: for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way to light it. There's nothing to
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  Speaker 3: do with it. And then, I mean, remember when Karen
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  Speaker 3: Huger had the three wick, but then Wendy had the
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  Speaker 3: one wick?
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  Speaker 4: Wendy had one wick and then that's when Karen came
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  Speaker 4: out with the three wick. A three wick bigger candle.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, I have a big, my big wick energy,
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  Speaker 4: bigger candle. That is so funny.
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  Speaker 3: I think candles is just such an interesting rich lady
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  Speaker 3: business to get into.
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  Speaker 4: But it's also just so cheap to make those candles
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  Speaker 4: and then to sell them. I did buy her wine.
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  Speaker 3: The Rosé.
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  Speaker 4: The Meghan Markle Rosé.
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  Speaker 3: How was it?
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  Speaker 4: It was fine. I mean, it was, I did a
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  Speaker 4: whole video about like how, because it's like, it was $ 90. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Because you have to buy.
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  Speaker 3: $ 90 for one bottle?
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  Speaker 4: Three bottles. It's a minimum of three bottles.
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  Speaker 3: Still, $ 30, I have to say, $ 30 is kind of
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  Speaker 3: a lot for Rosé. That's like more than Whispering Angel. Yeah. Like,
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  Speaker 3: Rosé is not an expensive thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think in total I paid $ 120 with shipping and
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  Speaker 4: handling because shipping and handling is expensive.
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  Speaker 3: That's why also the wine business, that's why Heather Dubrow
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  Speaker 3: got out of Colette because she said it costs so
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  Speaker 3: much to ship it. She was like, oh, please, I
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  Speaker 3: just did that for a storyline. She told me that.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, come on. I'm like, what happens with
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  Speaker 3: your champagne? How does that kind of work out? I
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  Speaker 3: think that's such a great product for you since you're
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  Speaker 3: into champagne. She's like, it's not economical. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a wise business for someone to get into that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't truly have a winery, a way to distribute it,
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  Speaker 3: to have it get into a bunch of places.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I had my wine line for two years, and
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  Speaker 4: it was Housewives-inspired canned wine. And it was not the
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  Speaker 4: biggest revenue generator, but it was good marketing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you use it for. I mean, she used
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  Speaker 4: it for a storyline, but like it's good marketing that
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  Speaker 4: you are investing in that you know is good like
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  Speaker 4: for brand visibility.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I remember you sent me some.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think stuff like that, you know, like put
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  Speaker 3: it in the right glass, have it be cold enough.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And no one knows.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like where you really tell a wine is bad is like.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I said.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, you can get, I was like, the
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  Speaker 4: wine is not bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I go, but for $ 30 a bottle plus like $ 20
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  Speaker 4: shipping and handing, I was like, You can go to
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Trader Joe's and get $ 15 bottle of rosé that's just
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: as good.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: Like I said, just make it really cold. Have it
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: just in a chilling bucket of ice. Same with champagne.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like those two drinks, as long as they're
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: really cold, it tastes delicious. Like red wine, you should
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: invest in.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Right. Red wine, I think you can pay good money
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: for good red wine. But a rosé, I don't think
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: you need to spend a ton of money on that.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: You can't tell the difference.
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: No.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: And same with Chardonnay. Chardonnay needs to be a little
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: more expensive. But like. A Sauvignon Blanc, a Pinot Grigio,
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: that doesn't have to be as much. That's wine talk
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: with Zach and Heather. Okay. As you know, Kim did
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: not pass the bar. Nothing to be ashamed of. Many
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: of our best lawyers have had to take it multiple times,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: especially in California, which is the hardest bar. But as
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: you know, she didn't go to law school. And she
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: also is cursing chat GPT because she used that as
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: a study guide and they fed her some wrong information.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: But she's really pissed at the four psychics that told
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: her that she would pass. And then this other, I
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: saw this guy on TMZ that is a psychic. And
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: he's like, normally psychic readings are 95% accurate. I'm like, what?
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: And then he said, and what they're seeing is that
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: she will pass, but maybe not this time. Eventually she
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: will pass. I believe eventually she will pass. You know,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: eventually she'll pass. She's not going to let it go.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: She's got to take it. It doesn't matter if it's three,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: four or five times. That doesn't make you a bad lawyer.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: It's fucking hard.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: And but as far as the psychic things to go,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: I think that is so funny that because four psychics
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: said it would happen. I mean, you're paying the psychic. Yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: And. Well, also, you don't need to be a psychic
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: to know she will pass it eventually. Like, I feel
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: like that's a cheat. Like, to be like, well, we
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: meant you'll pass it eventually. It's like, well, no shit.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: She's not going to give this up. She didn't go
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: and invest in this whole law career only to throw
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: in the towel now. But that's interesting. I didn't know
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: that there was, like, an accuracy rate. I'm surprised it's not, like, 99.95% accuracy.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Also, I'm surprised she's still going to psychics because I
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: have— some inside juicy scoop memory from my own of
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: psychics with Kim. So when I was at Chelsea lately, Kim,
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Chelsea had a, a psychic come.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: And she had like a night and she actually invited
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: some celebrities that she had just, you know, just becoming
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: friendly with. And she kind of sought out people who
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: had lost a parent. Okay. So she, Kelsey had lost
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: her mom, of course, Robert Kardashian. So Kim had come.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Or maybe he put it together and Chelsea went. Maybe
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Chelsea didn't put it together. Maybe Chelsea was just attending.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: And she liked psychics and stuff. I was always like,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think it's fun unless it's like they tell you,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: whoever you're dating now, is there an M in their name? Well,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: then that's not the one for you. It's just weird
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: stuff like that where it gets in your head, just stuff.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: But I always think a medium is kind of better
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: because it's like, they're not going to tell you that
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: your grandma's pissed that you wore pants to the funeral.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Like they're not going to be like, you know, it's
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: going to always be like, she didn't suffer. She's happy now.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: She's running around in the field.
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Okay. But what this guy said to Kim, now this
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: is a long time ago. This is before she was
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: either dating Reggie. She had not married Chris Humphries yet.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: And he said, she said, I'm going to have children.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: And according to what, Chelsea told me after, in my memory, okay,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: he said, yes, but they will not be black.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: And all four of them are. Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, there's someone who, and this was like
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: a TV psychic. I'm not going to say his name.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: He was a TV psychic. Again, it's my recollection. But
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I remember I even said it to Chris. I even
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: said when she got engaged to Chris Humphries, I said,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: remember when Kim went to that psychic because Chris, his
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: dad is, was black and his mom was white. And
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: so I was like, maybe he's right. Maybe she's going
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: to have kids with him and they won't appear to be,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: Well, he was wrong on that one. That was the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: 5% inaccuracy rate. So I'm like, there's so many wrong things.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, too, when I went to a psychic, there
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: was one right thing. And then I went back to
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: that psychic and there was, later proved to be like
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: four wrong things. See, so how do you know if
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: you can trust a psychic?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You can't. You just go for fun. I was at
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: a Halloween party and there was a girl doing the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: tarot cards.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: And I think the tarot cards are actually kind of fun.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Because she was just like, ask it a question. And
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: then she was like, okay, this is, and then any
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: card you could analyze, like she'd be like, oh, this is,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: The queen of, you know, this is a queen, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: it's upside down. So you're a queen, but you feel
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: like you're, you know, you're not in control of everything yet.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: You should read tarot cards, Heather. Everybody feels like they're
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: a queen, but they're not in control of everything. It's
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the same thing like the fucking horoscopes, right? Like every
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: description of a horoscope, like you can always like find
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: a way. They're generic enough to like fit it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Like I'm a Gemini, but if you read me Virgo today,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I'd probably be like, yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: That's totally me.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Oh my, I am a little feisty.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. I do wake up with it. I am
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: loyal to a fault.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Every single person on this earth thinks they're loyal to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: a fault because they were like nice to one person
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: that fucked them over. Yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I'm nice until you cross me. That's so me. Like
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that's every fucking horoscope ever.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: It's like when I'm a Gemini. they're like, you have
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: two personalities. Sometimes you're really nice and sometimes you're a bitch.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, isn't that everybody? Like, what the hell? Anyway,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: good luck to her.
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: They think you're done for the day, but they don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: know about the drawer. The drawer. Just the one square
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: before bed.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Or two, you know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: Nobody's watching.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: You deserve a treat.
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: With eight flavours to choose from, you can choose the
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: flavour you favour with Cadbury Dairy Milk.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: filed against me.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: what would you do if it was given back?
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: He said, I have a work dad.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: I need a home dad.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: What happens next?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about Dancing with the Stars because this
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: is something that you've become quite passionate about. I have
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: only been catching clips and stuff. I am not a
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: regular watcher. Of course, I know we've got the TikTok
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: girls on the Mormon Whitney and the other one who
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: has gotten the boot. What's her name?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Jen.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Jen Affleck. Jen Affleck.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Cousin of Ben Affleck.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And then we have Whitney who became famous because she
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: famously danced while her son was in the NICU.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: And he's fine. She's had like two more baby scents
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and now she's like skinny and dancing really well. And
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: also Alex Earl, who is the queen of TikTok fame, who, um,
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: not to be mistaken by Alex Cooper, who took her
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: under her wing and then they broke up and they're
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: both blonde and skinny and cute.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So, but it's Alex Earl who's dancing and let's not
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: forget it's Alex Earl's stepmother who also was a sex
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: worker who slept with the governor and ruined his career,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: but then married Alex's dad.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: And is now on TikTok and everything herself and, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: enjoying the life and seems to, you know, be a
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: wonderful stepmother. So good for her. Okay. So Andy Richter,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: who used to be the sidekick of Conan O'Brien show
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: for many, many years. Do you remember when he left
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: for a minute?
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: No, I never watched. I mean, I knew of him,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: but I had never paid attention to him.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I always thought it was really interesting. So Conan O'Brien
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: had his show.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Andy Richter was the lovable sidekick.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: He was the chewy.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: And he, well, chewy, chewy, really what it was was
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Johnny Carson had Ed McMahon.
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And then it was like Chelsea decided to have a sidekick,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: but having him off to the side was kind of
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: like unique to our thing. And of course, the character
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: of him and everything. But, So they always had a
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: great rapport. He then got like a sitcom or had
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to do a sitcom. And Conan was like, go,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: go do your thing. And he had like a sitcom
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: where he's like, dad, whatever. And it didn't go. And
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you can't blame the psychic for wanting to do that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: But then Conan was nice to enough to bring them back.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: And so now Conan's Conan's late night show is not
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: on anymore. He just does the podcast. Right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I don't even know.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: If it is, it's on like TBS or something.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: No, I don't even think TBS exists anymore. But it
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: went a long time. Andy Richter got asked to be
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: on Dancing with the Stars and has gone extremely far
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: because the fans voted for him. What are your thoughts
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: on that?
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: First of all, you saying those words is such rage bait.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Because the amount of fury that I have that Andy
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Richter has lasted in this competition this long. Like Andy Richter,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: so they had like Corey Feldman at the beginning. And
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: everybody knows when they announce the cast, you're like, okay,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: these are going to be like the first few to go.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: And it's always the old people, right? And Andy's like
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: old and he's a big dude. And like, you know,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: his ankles look like they hurt. And so I wasn't
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: expecting him to go far and anybody. And so I
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: have a group thread with my friends and we I
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: don't watch the show live. I watch the dances afterwards
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and then I'll get like live updates from my friend
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: in on the East Coast. And she'll like let me
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: know what's going on on the show. And so with Andy,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: every week we're like, OK, Andy's going to go home.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: And then he didn't go. And then, OK, well, Andy's
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: going to go home. And then they sent home Jen
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: from MomTalk. And then we're like, okay, well, Andy has
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: to go home next week. And then they sent home Topanga.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: And that's what sent me into a fury.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: What was the thing about Topanga? Why did people think
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: that Topanga, who was the star of Boy Meets World,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: and she's done some other things since, and she's cute.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: She's a mom now. What is she, like 40 or something?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Why did people think that the judges were against her
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: or something? What was the controversy with that?
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, people think that the judges are biased to
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: certain cast members.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're critical. They give them critiques. And to
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: be fair, they were less critical of Andy, who couldn't
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: even move. And they were a little more harsh on
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Whitney or Jen or Topanga. They would critique them. And
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I think it's because they knew that they were more
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: capable of moving.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's always so funny— yeah, I can't really
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: be fair because if the man is the star and
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: you have this girl that, you know, you can just
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: lift up cause she's tiny and then she can spin around.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: So then you're watching the dance and you're like, well,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: this is a great dance or like, A big basketball player, again,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: who can like lift up the girl, do whatever, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: he can kind of... And then when it's really on
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the girl to like do the salsa hit exactly right,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: it's easy. You're right. Women, once again, we're getting screwed over. Yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: And so that's what they're saying. They're saying that the
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: judges are sexist because they were more... critical of the
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: women than of people like Andy. But I like he
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: just he kept going through. And then I went on
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: TikTok and I found out that there's a whole community.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: I call them fannies for Andy, but they call themselves fandies.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: But so the fannies for Andy were literally going on
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: TikTok and saying, we're going to vote for Andy so
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that we get him through the end. And then I
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: found out, did you hear about Bobby Bones?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: No, who's Bobby Bones?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Nobody knows. But so he won Dancing with the Stars
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: back in 2018. And he was a terrible dancer. And
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: the fans voted him. How was he famous though?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: How was he famous?
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know, a chef or something. Nobody really heard
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So it's more like the fandom saying, let's just see
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: how much power we have.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. So if I ever get on, then
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the Juicy Scoopers will have to prove themselves. Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: But so now they've learned how to hack the TikTok
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: algorithm so that they all find each other. And then
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: they know, OK, we're all going to vote for Andy.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: And then they use all 12 of their devices to
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: all vote for one person.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: But do you even think they're Andy fans or they're
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: just saying, can we do this?
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: They're just in it for the fight. Like, there's nothing
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: about Andy. I mean, he's a sweet dude.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So, OK.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: So we don't think they're been fans of his for
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: 20 years. We think they're just a group of people
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to see, like, let's see how far we can make
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: a very average, not super relevant person that doesn't have
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: a huge, you know, following right now. That's kind of
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: interesting and genius.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, they should have been watching his fucking sitcom
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: and then he would still be on the air. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: that's how you know they're not real fans of him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: That's so interesting. Well, because they're all so mad because
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: like Whitney from Mormon Wives is I think her and
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: the crocodile son are going to go all the way
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: to the end and they're going to be the top two.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: And the crocodile son, I love that you call him
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: that because that's what I would call him. It's the–
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: he's the son.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Of– Robert Irwin.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Robert Irwin, who was the crocodile Dundee who died tragically
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: with animals.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it like a spear? Like it's a spear the
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: fish went through?
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: I think it was like a stingray or something.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a stingray went through him. Yeah. Anyway, so he's
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the younger son and he's a babe.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: And so that's fun.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But so people are mad because Whitney from mom talk,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: she's a professional or she was, her background was, she
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: was a professional dancer. So they're like, that's not fair
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: because she can dance and people like Andy can't dance,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: but he's so nice and he's so likable. So they
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: like rallied around Andy. And so when I found out
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: that there was like an orchestrated campaign to get Andy
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: to the end, I was not having it. And I
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: started my own orchestrated campaign. I called it hashtag save
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Andy's knees because that poor man was struggling week after week.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: And I was like, this is now elder abuse. These
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: people are diabolical to keep this poor man who, you know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: his agent told him like, you're only going to go
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: to like the third week and you don't have to
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: commit too long. And then here he is in the semifinals.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: He can dance.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I always, ask about this and i've heard different things
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: same with special forces yeah special forces i i think
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: we have found out that whether you leave on your
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: own volition or get kicked off the first day or
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: the second to last day you get the same amount
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: that's not dancing with the stars so so how does
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: dancing with stars work.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I believe you don't get paid for the first one
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: and that so if you're the first to go i
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: don't think you get anything you must get a little
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: something probably a little a But I think after that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: you get like $ 10, 000 per episode. And if you make
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: it towards the end, that's when I think you can
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: get up to like $ 400, 000 for making it that far.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: And then obviously there are winners if you get- Number
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: one Lisa Vanderpump fainted.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I- Listen, I've talked to some people who've
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: done it and they've been like, please- kick me off. Like,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: it's just so much work. I'm dying physically in every way.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: And look, he's not in shape. And when you see him,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: you know, dragging his feet around the dance floor as
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: his partner's just like dance, she's doing all the moves.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: And he's kind of just like.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: I think this whole thing is hilarious and kind of fabulous.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: It was, but people got so fired up about it. Okay,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: so this was interesting. Did you see that Prince Williams
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: actually called the crocodile son? Yeah. For a special moment
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: with Robert Irwin because... I guess they sort of have
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: met and bonded over losing parents young. And I thought
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: that was sweet.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: See, Prince Harry could never. Nor would he ever.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: I think he would. Can you give us the latest
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: on what is going on with Blake and Justin? We're
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: hearing different things, and I just want you to update
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: our people.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the never-ending story. So we're out of
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: the discovery phase, and now everybody's just getting ready to
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: take this to trial again. There were a lot of
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: headlines that came out that said Justin Baldoni was throwing
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: in the towel and he'd kind of given up, which
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: isn't really true. So he she's suing him for sexual harassment.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: He was suing her for defamation. And back in June
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: is when the judge dismissed his case because they said,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: so basically when you make statements that are in a
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: court filing, like in a lawsuit, you can't be sued
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: for defamation because it's protected under litigation privilege. So regardless
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: of what she said, whether it was truthful or if
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: they were just all complete lies, you can't be sued
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: for defamation. You're protected from that. And so that's why
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: she had it go into the New York Times because
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: then that added like an additional layer of protection. Like
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: it was all very smart and strategic. So essentially, he
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: couldn't sue her for defamation. That case got thrown out.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: And so the deadline for him to file an amended complaint,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: if he wanted to keep fighting that, that deadline passed
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: and that expired. But he made it clear back in June, like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to move forward with that lawsuit. I'm
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: going to fight her sexual harassment lawsuit. Trial is set
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: for March of next year. And so there were a
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: bunch of headlines that came out that ultimately were just inaccurate.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: And then his attorney, Brian Friedman, went on Harvey Levin's
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: podcast and actually called out Harvey. And he's like, you
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: guys reported this and it was completely inaccurate. And Harvey's like, yeah,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: we did. And we own that. Like we reported it
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: and didn't report it fairly. And so, I mean, that
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: was the biggest headline that came out. We're really just
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: gearing up for trial, which has come March. But I mean,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: she's not looking too good, nor is Ryan Reynolds. More
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: text messages have come out. that just really kind of
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: corroborate that her team was very clear that like they
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: weren't the ones putting out these bad headlines about her.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: They were all talking about it and they're like, oh
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: my God, did you see this headline? Oh my God,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: did you see the TikTokers are talking about her? Like
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: they seemed to relish in the fact that the internet
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: hated her, but it didn't seem like they were deliberately
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: planting anything or orchestrating any of this smear campaign. They
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: were just loving that the internet was taking her down.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: So this girl, she covers it well too.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Elsie, yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Elsie. She was explaining on her Instagram today that it
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: comes down to this relationship between Stephanie Jones and Jennifer Abel.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Stephanie Jones owned the PR company. Jennifer worked for Stephanie.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: And at one point, Jennifer was trying to, like, steal
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: clients to leave Stephanie.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Well, those are kind of the allegations. So Jennifer worked
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: with Stephanie at her PR firm. She was like one
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: of the heads there. And so Jennifer was the one
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: that represented Justin Baldoni and his film studio. So she
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: was the one that was doing PR for him and
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: the movie It Ends With Us. And so at some point,
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I guess Justin was concerned about Blake Lively bringing forth
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: these allegations of, you know, whatever was going on behind
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: the scenes. And that's when he decides to hire this
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: crisis PR manager, Melissa Nathan. And so then Jennifer started
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: working with Melissa and then they realized that Stephanie Jones,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: she wanted to be part of it because I guess
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: she saw like the movie was doing really well. Like
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: there was a lot of good PR around there and
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of her clients were dipping out. Like her
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: company was starting to circle the drain a little bit.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: And so she kind of got into the mess. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: think Stephanie Jones is the one that spearheaded all of this.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: So Justin Baldoni decided to leave Stephanie Jones. And he
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: wanted Jennifer Abel to come with him. So she left,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: but she left with Wayfair and Justin Baldoni. Stephanie Jones
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: was not happy because obviously it ends with us comes out.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: It makes $ 300 million. Like that was a lucrative client
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: that she could have had. So at some point, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: this is where the timeline gets a little murky and
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: we'll see how this plays out at trial. But at
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: some point when Jennifer Abel left, Stephanie Jones had security
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: confiscate her devices and and basically keep her phone because
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: she said it was a company phone. And it was
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: on that phone that all of the text messages were
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: about them talking about Blake Lively, about Justin Baldoni.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And so those text messages, somehow Stephanie Jones gains access
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: to them through Jennifer Abel's phone. And somehow those text
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: messages end up in the hands of Blake Lively. And
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: the next thing you know, Blake Lively is launching this
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: big legal warfare against them.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: So was it that she... gave it to Blake or
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: was she subpoenaed by Blake's people to give it?
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: So that's where it gets even shadier. So she says
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: that she was subpoenaed by Blake. Stephanie Jones says that
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: she was subpoenaed by Blake Lively, right? So then Justin
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Baldoni was like, okay, well, give us the subpoena. We
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: need to see how legit this actually is because you
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: took Jennifer Abel's phone and Jennifer Abel's like, that was
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: my personal phone number. So a lot of the messages
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: and contents that were on that phone were my personal information,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: not company information. owned information. And so there's a company
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: called Van Zandt Inc. And that's seemingly a shell company
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: that Blake Lively owns or is the CEO of. So
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Van Zandt Inc. decided to subpoena Stephanie Jones. But the
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: lawsuit itself doesn't name any defendants. It was 10 John
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Does that they were suing for. They said it was
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: a breach of contract. So they go to Stephanie Jones
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: and say, we need your text messages because there's a
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: breach of contract with some person that we can't tell
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: you who it is, but just give us all the messages.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: So she handed over all the messages. The theory is
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: that she had already shown them the messages. They just
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: needed a legal way to obtain them. So they used
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: the shell company to file this fake lawsuit to get
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: a subpoena to obtain the text messages because the second
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: they got the text messages, they dropped that fake Van
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Zandt lawsuit. Like they just withdrew it and didn't end
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: up pursuing it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: So it's like a shady way that they legally obtained
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: those messages. But how would you know to obtain those
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: messages if you didn't know what was in those messages?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: But how they obtained it and the shadiness that went on,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: from what they have now, because I'm hearing from some
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: other people that really follow it, that are like, this
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: is looking good for Blake now in their opinion.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: What is your, now I know that you have been,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you know, covering it and I think you've been covering
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: it very fairly, but if you were to say you're
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: definitely team Justin, do you feel, and you wouldn't be like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: do you feel like this might not go in his favor?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Listen, when it goes to trial, it's in the hands
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: of the jury and it can go either way. Um,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: So I'm not confident of how the jury will ultimately
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: decide because all we're getting are the pieces of information
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: that are appearing on the docket. But like there's a
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff that's redacted that we don't have access to.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: And listen, you can look at all of the information
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: and you can sway it towards Blake and you can
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: sway it towards Justin.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Where if you see the text messages of his team,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: you know, and they seem giddy about these mean videos
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: that are going on on TikTok about her. Yeah, that
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: looks bad because it looks like his team is relishing
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: in the fact that the Internet's beating her up. But
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: does that prove that they're behind it? Not necessarily.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, how many times have you in the
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: business that we live in? If you kind of are
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: not a fan of someone or maybe you were friends
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: at one time and now they're getting some they have
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: some social media stink on them. that you haven't maybe
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: written to your mutual friend and is like, oh, karma's
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: a bitch. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't mean that you did it.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you put it out there like
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Elisa Barlow. It just means that, yeah, I'm a little
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: bit dancing on this person's grave because they treated me horribly.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Right, and so that's why it'll ultimately come down to
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: what does the jury think? And they have text messages
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: where they are like, we can bury anyone. But then
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: they put like laughy emojis with it where it's like
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: they're being sarcastic.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: But yeah. And even though I think to us, oh,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: my God, I'm sick of the story we've talked about.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be that hard to find a
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: jury that doesn't follow the shit at all and can
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: come in with unbiased, fresh eyes. I don't think it'll
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: be an impossibility like like like an OJ trial was
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: very hard.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I think most people have tuned out to the case.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Like they know the big overarching thing. And now they're
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: just kind of like, I don't really care because at
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: this point there's too much of the minutiae. And even
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: between the two of them, Jennifer Abel and Stephanie Jones,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Jennifer Abel just this week filed a new motion for
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: summary judgment that basically wants the judge to say, hey,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: if Blake Lively sues me and wins and I owe
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: her money, I was technically under the employment of Jones
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Work PR. So Jones Work PR should be responsible for
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: whatever the payout is because I was working on their behalf.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: So it kind of throws the buck back off onto
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Stephanie Jones. So if she loses Stephanie Jones, who kind
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: of seems like the ember that burned down the Palisades here,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: she's the one that's probably going to end up being.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: The ember that burned down the Palisades here. That is
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: really good, Zach. Oh my God. Okay. Very good. Thank
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: you for that update. Now, Breaking news. Our girl Dolores
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: from Real Housewives of New Jersey is officially engaged to
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: her Irish prince, Paul. They are engaged and she thought
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: she was getting a new iPhone. It happened in an
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: iPhone store. She got a ring. I don't know if
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: People Magazine was there or she just gave the photos
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: to people to make a buck and to get some press.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Some people think it's really cute that it was done
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: in an iPhone. I'm like, was this like a a
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: branding thing but iphone is so big i don't think
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: they need it but why an iphone store that's i
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: guess just to like throw her off but then i
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: mean she's got sweats on but then she still looks
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: beautiful with a perfect manicure i don't know i don't
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: know i feel like and fine whatever they did whatever
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: it was staged not who cares they've been together a
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: long time and she obviously wants to marry him yeah
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: i mean.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: They look a little face tuned in that photo Oh, he, yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: So does he. Yeah, he likes it. So I'm thinking.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all good.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: It may have been, she may not have looked as glam,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: but they FaceTuned her up before they gave the photos
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: to people.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Ring looks beautiful.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Ring looks gorgeous. Yeah. Like, her manicure looks great, too.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: But I just, the iPhone, like, is so weak. Like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: could you imagine being there because you cracked your screen?
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: I was just at the iPhone store, and I paid
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: $ 400 to get my screen fixed on a brand new
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: phone that I bought and had for two days. Um,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine being at the Apple store waiting to
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: get my screen fix. And then there's like people getting engaged.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Like it would be the most random thing ever. Like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, what are you guys like at the
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Apple store?
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Like what? And then there's a photographer. Like what is happening?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Did you ever see the video I
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: did with my friend Colin and we were at Disneyland
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and I was at Disneyland with the kids. He worked with,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: for Disneyland. So he would meet us there when we
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: would go. And I had just seen, you know, there's
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: lots of engagements happening in Disneyland. Yeah. So I said,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, it was like right outside of like
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: star Wars, like no offense, but like extra dork. Right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: And like, definitely like that kind of fandom. It's not
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: my thing, but I appreciate it. And so I, you know, summer,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: I had just like, you know, sunglasses on like t-shirt, whatever.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And I said, um, will you ask me to marry you?
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: And then like, we're just going to see how people react.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: And so he has a boyfriend. Okay. So, and, um,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious he has a boyfriend in the way
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: he presents himself. So anyway, he asked me to marry him.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I jumped up and down. People totally were like, oh,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: my God, like people believed it. And then we put
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: out the video. And for the people that didn't know,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: it's me, Heather McDonald. This is my friend. Other TikTok
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: people picked it up and then did like the side
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: by side. Like, is someone going to tell her? Is
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: anyone going to tell her?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It caught like 5 million views.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: It was so amazing because I never, you know, my
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: engagement wasn't like that. Now everyone makes such a big
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: production out of it. In some ways, I think it's
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: kind of cute that it wasn't a big flowers and
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: this and that, that it was just like I wanted
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: to surprise you if this truly was a surprise. I
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: think it's cute too. I mean, it's whatever. People are happy.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: If this is who you want to marry, you don't
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: care if they give it to you when your nails
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: are chipped and you look ugly. You're not going to care.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: You're going to be thrilled.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, we could have surprised her somewhere nicer than
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: the Apple store. Like a restaurant. Like, let's go to lunch.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Or you know what? If you're doing the whole thing
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: and media and being authentic is your thing.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: So now let's say I'm thinking about it and I'm like,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I just want to keep the audience loving me. I'm
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: down to earth, whatever. and we're going to get engaged,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, you know what? Don't do the surprise
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: with the angels up in the sky. Like, let's just
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: not do that song. And then let's like, I would
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: almost do that too. I'd be like Peter, like if
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Peter was just my boyfriend, I'd kind of be like, okay,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: let's just do something that's like random. Like I'm at
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Costco and I'm like, what? Like now watch, there is
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: going to be a trend on TikTok of people trying
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: to be authentic and Where they do the engagement not
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: in this orchestrated $ 5, 000 way. Get ready. That's my prediction.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Because then people are like, I just love it. She's
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: just real. They're real. They're funny. Do you think that
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: this is real? Like this is so awkward. No, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: don't think it's real. But now I think people are
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: going to be doing that to show that they're like authentic.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: And that these big fancy flowers over the balcony overlooking
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the sea. The only ones I really like, the couple
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: that I've seen that I think are so sweet, is
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: there was this one viral video where the girl is
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: told that her friend's getting engaged. So she's, you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: all excited. They said, dress up. We're, you know, we're
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: going to, oh my God, Jenny's getting, and, and someone's
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: filming her and she's filming her.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Friend walk through. Oh, I saw that, yeah.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Because she's like so genuinely happy for her friend and
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: they're walking through her walking through and she's expecting to
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: see the friend's boyfriend and then she sees her boyfriend
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: and she's like and they all turn around and it's
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: her engagement. And see that is really sweet because you
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: saw what a genuinely like sweet girl this person was.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah I think it's. Listen, we all are just
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: watching people in their own living rooms these days.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: But you want some thought into it, right? What do
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: you want Peter to do? If he took you to
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: the Apple store and then just proposed and then didn't
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: even get you a new iPhone, how would you not
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: be a little insulted by that?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you my engagement. Okay, so we knew we
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: were getting married. because I have a stepdaughter. I had
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: to tell my parents that I had a stepdaughter. They
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: didn't know that I had a stepdaughter. So I wanted
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: them to know. Okay. And that I was marrying him
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't a perfect situation, but I, you know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: so then we were like, okay, great. Like the next day,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: my mom's like, well, the church and the country club
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: are available on May 29th. And that'll be nice because
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: it you'll get married before you're 30. And I was like, okay.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: So my birthday was in June. So I was like, great.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: So then I said, go get the ring. I don't
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: want to see the ring. I don't want to help
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: you pick out the ring. And I was filming the show, um,
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: lyricist lounge. And I said, do the whole engagement, something special,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: do it after I'm done filming. Cause I just want to,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: and I want to look cute. And I, so I
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: knew I was getting it that night, but then he like,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: set up something in his condo and then he like
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: had this music playing in the car that I was
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: like what's this music it was my favorite song like
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: it had to be you and then we went to
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: a restaurant that I loved and then we went aside
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: and I got it but I didn't know what the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: ring was gonna look like but I did know what
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: was happening that night.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: But you still appreciate the thought that goes into it
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: like if somebody proposed to me in a fucking Apple
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: store that would be an easy no.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Oh my god well after looking at that ring I'd
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: be like okay maybe when you get married I think
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: we have to do it there Okay, so let's talk
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City last night. Another juicy,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: unfilmed moment. Up there with the infamous sprinter van of
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Lisa Renna and Kathy Hilton, possibly freaking out that the
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: DJ did not play Michael Jackson, and Kathy Hilton is
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: best friends with Michael Jackson's sister, LaToya, and she wanted—
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: pretty young thing to be played, and therefore she allegedly
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: yelled derogatory homophobic slurs about this DJ at the Calaboo
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Club or Caribou Club in Aspen. Nobody filmed it. The
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Sprinter van driver is still in witness protection. He has
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: never come out. We don't know where he is. Numerous
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: podcasters have offered him Tends to $ 20 to appear on
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: their podcast to get the scoop, and he or she,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: we don't know.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: We don't know.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: We don't know. So what happened is they're in first class.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: They're leaving the yacht to go home, and Meredith is
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: still very upset with Brittany because Brittany was sent a
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: TikTok video of a girl saying, my friend's an Uber driver,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: and she had Meredith Mark's husband, Seth, and his mistress
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: in the backseat of her car. I mean, not... But still,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: quite removed, in my opinion. No film of it, no video.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: She wasn't even the Uber driver herself.
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: No.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: But she's pissed, as Meredith should be. If you got that,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: did you really need to talk about it on camera?
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: No.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Nobody else, I never saw that TikTok while it was happening.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known about it. No other Bravo person
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: picked it up. So I have to say, I think
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: she has a right to be pissed. But apparently on
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: the flight home, they were in the plane. Let me
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: see if I have the plane picture of where they
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: were all sitting. Oh, here we go. So Blocked by
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Jax posted this. This is from the show. They showed
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: they were on first class. And they showed a, of it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: And basically they said that Lisa and Meredith were, was
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: behind Brittany and they were yelling that Meredith was berating
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Brittany for like so long, had her a shell of
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: herself crying. Brittany said that they were actually pushing her seat,
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: which would have to be Lisa who was behind her,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: that Lisa was also ganging up on Britney. And they
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: were all texting each other saying, are you hearing this?
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: How awful this is. And what are you thinking of
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: this whole situation?
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, we saw it play out on the Sprinter
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: van last season, right? With the filming of the phone
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: where Mary's like, are you filming us? And then he's like,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not filming you. And she's still filming the whole thing.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: She's like, I was just taking a picture of outside
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: the window.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: She has a 10 minute video on her phone from.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you know, them fighting. So, I mean, we've seen this
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: all play out. I'm pretty sure. I mean, and you
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: also know Lisa Barlow gets very animated when she's fighting.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure she's like yelling over. I'm sure they
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: weren't like shaking the seat.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: You need to tell Meredith where you got that TikTok
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: and what provoked you to show it on camera. Why
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: don't you just give her the TikTok and let her
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: know about it? And Meredith is probably like, Brittany, you
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: have a man that doesn't even want to be with you,
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: and Seth and I are in a monogamous relationship. Weren't
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: they open for a while? He doesn't even have an
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Uber account. He's a Lyft man. Like, what is she
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: going to say?
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: But they were open for a while. Remember, that was
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: season one. Seth and Meredith had an open arrangement.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: They said it was open. Now they say it's not open.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think she was just really— I think— You know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: you're on this show and then you're like blindsided when
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden somebody on camera says something that
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: you're like, I could give the editors $ 100, 000 and they're
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: not going to not air this. Like, this is out there.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I'm now going to have to tell my spouse it's
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: out there. Then it's going to air. Then I'm going
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: to have to deal with it for the rest of
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: my life. Like, I think that's where then she, that's
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: where Meredith was like thinking about it on a plane and,
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: And your emotions run higher on a plane. I always
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: wondered why I would watch like a movie on a
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: plane and cry harder or think it was better than
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: it was. And then I would like, you know, like
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I'm always less critical of a movie on a plane.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I always think it's like everything's great. And they said
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: it's because there's something about being in the air that
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: can like affect your emotions. And especially if you're drinking,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: which if they're in first class and they're housewives, they
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: were drinking. And so then when I thought it was
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: really good because Mary then goes and meets with her
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: and really was like, I really had, I thought Mary
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: came off great. She was just like, you know, Meredith, like,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: It was horrible. Like I was there.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: It was horrible.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Like it was horrible. I heard everything. Like you got
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: to take some responsibility. And she's like, oh, please. There
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: would have been an air marshal there if it was
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: that intense. And I'm like, also like, you know, there's
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: an extra buzz of sound that happens in a plane
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: that you also can't hear as well. So I kind
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: of am on Meredith's side in that I don't know
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: that Mary would have heard it all, but I think
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: they all talked about it.
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: And I think certainly Whitney and Heather, who were across
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: the way, they were the ones that heard everything. Yeah.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, and Brittany's the type, like, I'm pretty sure
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: she was a shell of herself. Like, it doesn't take
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: hard to rattle. It's not hard to rattle Brittany.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: True, true.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: You can, you know, she rattles herself up every other episode.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure having Lisa and Meredith both on her,
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I'm sure emotions were heightened. I'm sure they weren't shaking
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: her chair, but I'm sure they were kind of pulling
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: on it. She was right in front of them and
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: they were, you know, I just, I believe that this happened.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: It probably wasn't that dramatic, but I'm sure Brittany's reaction
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: to it made it feel a lot bigger than it
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: actually was. And all these women know how to do
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: like Heather and Whitney, all they do are like, oh
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: my God, like they blow it up so much more
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: to add sauce on everything.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Well, then also do you think, um, You know, people said, well,
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: maybe the producers, why wouldn't the producers be filming it?
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: They must have been in first class. And they said
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: the producers probably weren't in first class. And I mean,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: they don't pay those people that well. I mean, the
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: executive producers make money, but I don't think the people
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: that are like carrying the cameras and like have the
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: notebook are like in first class.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Have you seen Paul Royston on TikTok? he's doing, he
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: was one of the producers. I think he did like
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: Vanderpump Rules and all of his, his stories now are
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: about like when I used to produce this show and
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: what you think and how it was like setting up
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: the scenes for Housewives and, and paying for everything. And
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: he was a segment producer or something. And so he
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: talks about how he's doing. He's like, you think it's glamorous.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: And he's like, we were all treated like shit. We
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: would all eat shit food, like whatever their leftovers were. We,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: we took them home for our dinner that night. Like
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: You know, he's talking about what it's like to be
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: a real producer on these shows. And like, yeah, they're
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: not paid very well. They're not, you know, they're... I mean,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I wish one of them would have been there to
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: get the iPhone out and film some of this.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: And then they're like, I'm surprised the other girls weren't
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: filming it too. And I'm like, again, they have not
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: thought of it. Or if they have it, they're like,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just saving this for a rainy day. I don't
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: need to bring it up now. And I'm not going
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: to be the one to bring it up.
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Because like, I'm still on the show. And I think
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: people like Heather... are smart enough to now see it.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you can't draw the line in the
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: sand with another top person.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: If you want to stay on the show, you can
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: with the Monica girl because she was a newbie and
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: she wasn't bringing anything and she wasn't rich or powerful.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: So that was a moment. But, you know, people are like, well, isn't,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: you know, Heather was on the show. Heather Gay was
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: on the show and about Lisa Barlow, um, sharing stories
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: about the cast members to bloggers or whatnot. And Heather
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Gay said, Oh yeah, I know for a fact she
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: did it. I have receipts, time sheets, whatever she says, timestamps, everything. Um,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: and there, and he goes, and what do you think
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: about that? She's like, well, he's like, will you be able,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: she's like, hopefully we'll be able to be in a
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: place to move on. And so people are like, but
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: then you didn't want to move on with Monica. And
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, cause Monica wasn't powerful. Like Lisa Barlow.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: And she knows the audience likes Lisa Barlow. She's fun
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: to watch. She has good one-liners, like, you know. So, okay,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: this was juicy. Talking about an open marriage. So this,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: this is from Bravo Snark, was nice enough to put
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: this together. So they're sitting at brunch, Whitney, who I
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: definitely think has, you know, enjoyed a threesome swinging lifestyle,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: in my opinion. Yeah.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: So it was, actually, I have some facts on that
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: that I might be sharing on the show. Yeah. On Friday,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: so come. I'll have to remember to write that down. Okay,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: so if it was someone sending him photos, this is Bronwyn,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: and we talk about it ahead of time, it wouldn't
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: bother me. If Todd said to me, I'd like to
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: sleep with other people or I'd like us to do
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: this together, I'd at least try it. I am like
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: shocked that she is saying this.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: I think she's gotten too caught up in the show.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: And I think she doesn't care about her marriage anymore.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know if she ever really did.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know why they ever got married in
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the first place. I don't know why he married her.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: I know why she married him. But I was like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: was she that great in the sack? Maybe she was.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, why? If a guy wants, maybe he
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: just wanted a wife and she was like, you can cheat.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe that was it. Maybe it was like a transactional thing.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Take care of my daughter and I and you can
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: do whatever the fuck you want on your trips. I mean,
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: they probably had something like that. And now that it's
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: coming out, She's trying to protect herself from the image
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: of the fans in that I'm okay with this. Because
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: when people think that a woman is being treated like
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: shit in their marriage and putting up with it, that
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: actually hurts their fandom.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: They lose respect for them. So I think she's trying
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: to say, oh, please, I'm fine with this. And then
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: so now I do think that he was farting while
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: making out. Probably.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Listen, I don't think there was ever anything of substance
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: in their relationship. Even the way that he talks to her.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Horrible. I want her to get divorced so badly.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: But I think she knew that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I want to see what she'd be like with the
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: mother and the daughter and him all gone. And not
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: having to wear those weird outfits. I just want to see, like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: would she be cool at all? Kind of like the
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: way Erika Jayne changed. Once she got rid of Tom Girardi.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: And then we got to, like, she's so much more likable.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: She didn't really get rid of him. Her, like, life
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: blew up. And then she had nothing left.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: It was horrible, but her personality is so much more
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: likable now. Like, she's, like, and gives good advice. And she's, like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: kind of fun and, you know, is down to earth and, like,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: still a badass. It really humbled her. But, like, in
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: the best way. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. But, yeah,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: that was interesting. And then Whitney, what did Whitney say
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: in this? She kind of was, like, agreeing or something.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's working out for her and Justin.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then she said, getting back to Monica Garcia,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Heather Gay has said that now the judgment is $ 35, 000
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: for those lips that she didn't like. Because when you
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: don't pay your bill and then it goes and then
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: there's a lawsuit and you win, then the judgment just
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: keeps going up and up and up.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: So you have attorney's fees and costs and all that
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: stuff that now Monica has to cover.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Didn't she have another baby?
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: She was pregnant, and then she lost the baby, but
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: I think she was pregnant again.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: What's going on with her? Remember, she had such a
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: hot moment.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: She had such a hot moment, but she didn't seize it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: It's like you've got a window. She should have immediately
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: been like, get me on Traders, get me on anything.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Did she go on anything?
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: She was the voice on House of Villains.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: But like that was the most that they gave her.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: No, and then like when she finally did do a podcast,
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: it was like four months later. And I was like, what? No,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: like you. gotta do your.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: Tell-all right now. It only lasted, like, two or three episodes.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Wait, she had her own podcast?
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: She did a, um, something.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I thought she was a guest.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: No, she did a... She did Nick Vial.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: And then she tried to do her own, like, Salt
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Lake Tea podcast or something. Salty podcast. Something like that.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: So that Heather Gay.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Is still she's saying that she hinted that she hooked
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: up with Captain Jason Captain Jason said no we didn't
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: hook up then Heather was on Watch Homes Live and
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: she's like did we or didn't we did we or
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: did and I'm like and people are like enough with
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: we didn't know about your you still haven't told us
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: about the black guy really oh my god I forgot
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: about that yeah and now you're not gonna now you're
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: gonna hint that either did you or did you not
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: did you make out did you not make out did
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: you fully bone well you think and remember or maybe
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't what She's just, but she's good. I mean,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: she's good. She's a good voice of reason. She's a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: good cast member. She does the work.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: She does. She keeps the show moving. I think the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: fans will get tired of her in like two more
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: seasons because they'll feel like she's too produced. Like the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: same reason they hate Kyle. They're like, Kyle produces Beverly Hills.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, some people just don't have a salacious storyline.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Like her divorce was done and it wasn't, super ugly
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: except just to say I'm part of Mormonism and it
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: just sucked.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Well, now she has her show.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: She doesn't have boyfriends. The daughters are all delights.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: So they're not struggling with drug addiction or pregnant or
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: hating their mom or being estranged for five years. Like,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: so she doesn't have drama. Yeah. So it's like, That
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: should not be a negative thing. If you can bring
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: it in other ways and still at least be like
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: funny and kind of keep it moving. And I think
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: that's where she is at with it. Yeah. And people
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: are like, oh, she's got no storyline. Shut up. Not
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: everybody needs a full-blown storyline every season. Sutton and Garcelle,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: you know, are no longer friends from Real Housewives of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. And they were on a red carpet together.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: And Bravo snark said, feet away from the same event
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: on the same red carpet, Garcelle turns her back on Sutton. Well, yeah.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: I've said it. They were never friends. They were never friends.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Anybody that believed that friendship... Sutton believed they were friends.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, come on.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: No, I do believe... I talked to Sutton. Sutton believed
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: they were friends. And I told her, you were a
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: girl she did a TV show with. And when she
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: decided that you didn't have her back and she decided,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to come back on the show, there was...
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: You were... There was not enough there for her to pursue.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: It was more powerful for her just to cut you out.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: Cyan doesn't have real friends. Like, her friends are like
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: her assistants until they all leave her. And then she
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: doesn't have real friends.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: So I— I disagree.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I disagree.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: She has friends. Who are her friends? Heather Dubrow? No,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I went to her house when I went to the Masters.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: She has friends. Like, she has friends from, like, the town.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: She has real friends. She has other— and then I went
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: to— she had a party in Beverly Hills. That was like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: a slow crawl or it was like a slow broil
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: or whatever party. And she cooked. And it was very nice.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: She had like one or two people like helping her.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: But she did everything. And it was not filmed. And
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: she had other Beverly Hills people that were not famous there.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: So I do believe she has friends.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I think friends around her are like the housewife lovers.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: They like that she has money and spends a lot
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: of money to take care of people. I mean, I
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know. I'm not in her inner circle.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: I know people that were in her inner circle, but
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm, I'm, I'm friendly with her and I do
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: think she has real friends and I do know that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: she was hurt by, she did try to reach out
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: to Garcelle many times and.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't understand.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't understand Garcelle's reason for like really kicking Sutton.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: Cause like, even if Sutton did want to try, well,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Garcelle's narrative is what the Sutton didn't really try. But
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I just, I don't know. I don't think Garcelle cared
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: about any of those women.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: It's such a weird thing because we're watching this show
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: about women's friendships, but it's about the show.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: So they fight, they make up when it's convenient for
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: the work.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Nobody in real life that ever went through any of
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: these arguments, whether it's at a school parking lot or
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: at a country club, would ever fuck with that woman again.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: In real life, as one of those women, you would
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: be done. You'd maybe be at a shower five years
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: later and be like, oh, hello. And that would be it.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: But if you're getting paid by Bravo and all that stuff,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: then yeah, you got to make up. You got to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: make up. And that's what happened with Joe Gorga. Now
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: they said Gia and Joe Gorga now re-following each other.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Louie and Joe and Joe Gorga are following each other.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: And I think that Bravo waited long enough to hire
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: anyone for any reason from New Jersey to put them
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: in a long enough time out that they realized we're
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: all screwed.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Unless we come together.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: And so they want, apparently the rumor is they want,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: they will, they'll still wait Bravo until they are actually friends.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: actually hanging out without cameras. They actually don't want to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: see the makeup on TV because the audience is so
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: tired of it. And so even if they make up
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: and everything that once if they decide to start filming
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: again and all that, we won't even see New Jersey
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: till 27.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: No. Yeah, I agree. I mean, they'll probably start filming
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: next summer. Yeah. Give it, you know, the next several
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: months to rebuild. I can see Kathy Wakili coming back.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: She lives across the street. Like I can see them
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: rebooting it in that sense. But yeah, I think the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: egos were too big the first time around and Bravo
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: was like, all right. And then now they've been off
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: of TV for long enough that they all want to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: be back on and they have their little, their little carrots, right?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Melissa got her wife swap and Teresa got special forces.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: And so it kind of like gives them enough, but they,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: you know, they, they all want to be back on TV.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: I can see, I don't see Jennifer Aiden coming back.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: She said, I'm not, she said, I'm not, I officially,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: I've never heard and I'm not, she like kind of said,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: I'm done. Like, I know I'm done.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: We all know you're done. She's starting a podcast.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll enjoy that.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: TV gold.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: But I think this weekend, there's going to be something
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: that goes on, whether planned or not, that will spark
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: story and people talking and news articles about them either
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: seen talking, hugging, laughing, or yelling and fighting, but it'll
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: probably be the positive. Cause I think they're going in
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: and they're going to be like, we're going to have
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: dinner at this restaurant, which they'll be picking up. We'll
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: get a deal. And we'll, we know that people, the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: fans will see us eating altogether. And yeah, that's, what's
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: going to happen.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Um, Okay, now Vicky and Vicky wants back on the show.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: So Vicky and Tamara are good friends, leaving Shannon as
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: the uno amigo. And she said, Shannon's not going to
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: tell me who I can be friends with. She can't
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: tell me, like, we're going to Mexico. Tamara and I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: are going to Mexico. So they're going to be, they
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: did the coffee ad. Everyone's doing this coffee thing. I saw,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: what's her name from Miami do it? The one that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: was dating the Haitian mortician. Julia.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Julia was dating the coffee guy?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Julia. Oh, she did the coffee? She's doing the same coffee,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: which is like an instant latte.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: That they did the commercial for. She's doing it, which
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: I think is kind of funny because, remember, she had
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: to give her Haitian mortician lover according to Adriana.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: The coffee maker.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: I don't even think she drew the connection. I just
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: drew it. Anyway, we're going to get the Haitian mortician
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: and the sprinter driver. are going to be making an
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: appearance at my show.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: I love that. Please, please bring them out on stage.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: I would love that for us.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: I just might. Anyway, so, and then Gina Kino was
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: on the show, original OG of OC, and she said,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Shanna was mad at me because I said, Shanna shouldn't
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: have said on camera that she wasn't screwing David Bedore,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: her first husband. for a year and any other now
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: women see that and they know to like go fuck
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: them and I'm like shut up Gina you know what
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: the reason we like Shannon is that she is honest
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: yeah she was honest enough to share with her girlfriends
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: that her marriage was in the toilet yeah and that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: she'd gone they'd gone this long time without have being
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: intimate and could they like save it or not or
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: what does that mean and she wanted the sympathy but
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: that's what makes a good housewife yeah Not one that
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: like acts like they're having sex every day when they're not. Obviously.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Remember when she came back, Gina came back. It was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: like two seasons ago is when they had Dr. Jen
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Armstrong and she had a party at her house. And
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: then on Instagram, you saw that Gina was at this
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: party and she's taking photos with all of them. And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: then you see the episode and they don't show Gina
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: like at all. Like they completely cut her out. And,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: you know, she thought that was like her big OC return.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: Nobody cares about Gina. Nobody cares about her. Nobody likes her.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: I talked to Gina one time in Newport, like at
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: a restaurant. And I was like, I always think about
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: that scene where you showed up and you didn't tell
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: your son that you're bringing Vicky and cameras. And he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: was stressed about a baseball game. He was trying to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: make like the junior league or whatever it was. You know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: he was already out of high school. Like he wasn't
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: going to go to college. He's going to do like
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: semi-pro or something. And he was there and he was like,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: what the fuck are you doing here? And he's like,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take this bat and like hit your
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: face with it or something. And she's like, ha, ha, ha.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: And Vicky's like what and I remember that just left
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: such an impression where I was like that even that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: like later that night I was like giving my sons
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: a bath that's how long ago it was and they
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: were like not getting out of the bath or not
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: getting in the bath and I remember I'm like I
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: will not be treated like Gina Keto like I was
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: just like it was like affected me so much to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: see like such a disrespectful son but then as I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: got older and I saw like, it's wrong to put
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: your kids on these camera with this camera without their consent.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: And then to take, show up with cameras to surprise
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: them while he's doing like something for his career. And so,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: you know, at the time she told me he was,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: the kids are doing great. Everyone's like married with kids
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: are doing great. They're all adults. The three kids, her kids.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: But I said to her, I go, how did that
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: like affect them? I'm sure people came up to them
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: and said, you're a rooter. She's like, it was horrible.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: They were bullied horribly. They really suffered. And even Colton
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: really suffered. And I go, so, I mean, do you
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: ever look back and regret doing it at all? And
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: she goes, oh, no, I can still get a reservation anywhere.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: That was exactly what she said. And I was like,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: you literally just said your kids were like bullied.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Traumatized.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: And now, but you can still call and, you know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: get a reservation at Mastro's. That's how they care about it. Interesting.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: So yeah, she's okay. I want to talk about Helen Keller. Yes.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Helen Keller, the blind deaf woman who could not speak
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: either from history. People did reports, book reports on them.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Now there is a conspiracy theory that came around the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: internet a couple of years ago That actually was sparked,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: I looked it up, by a University of Oregon student.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Wrote a 96-page thing.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear any of this.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Her name's Allison Johnston. My son goes to Oregon, so
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: that was impressive. This was blind, deaf-accomplished, and discredited. How
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Helen Keller's legacy evolved with new media. So do tell
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: us the scoop, because you are passionate about it.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Very passionate about it because I didn't even know that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: there was a report. I didn't even know this was
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: viral a few years ago. I was very proudly taking
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: the credit of all the new TikTok videos that people
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: are making about her. Because when you think about it,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: because like, you know, I forgot how somebody mentioned something.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: about Helen Keller and in like one of my live streams.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: And they're like, oh yeah, didn't she fly a plane?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: And I was like, Helen Keller didn't fly a plane.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: You're confusing her with like Amelia Earhart. And then I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: was sitting there and I went on my phone and
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: I was like, what? She didn't fly a plane. Someone
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: was like, she did. And then I went and I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: realized she wrote like 12 books. She flew— I' m like, somebody
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: hacked the Matrix, and, like, this is the Mandela effect
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: because I don't remember her doing any of this shit
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: when I was in school and we learned about her
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: because she was blind and deaf. They said that, like,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: she donated all this money to the ACLU because she
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: was trying to help, you know, people of color. And
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: I was like, Helen Keller can't even see color. Like,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: she's one person. She's one white lady that can say,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: I never see color.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: How would she know ethnicity?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: She had a forbidden lover.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Was he black? Was he a Haitian mortician? Yeah. No,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: he wasn't.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: He was white. But I don't know. She may have
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: thought that maybe he convinced her that she was. And
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: so they would communicate with her in her hand. They
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: would like write things in her hand and that's how
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: she would understand things. Which again, how they got her
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: to scribble in her hand and then get her to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: write 12 books.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: And what was the years that she was alive? Like
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: the 1800s, 1900s? What was it?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: It was like early 1900s, I think. Yeah, she flew
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: a plane. She wrote 12 books. So the forbidden lover,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: like she was going to secretly get married to him
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: and then he ghosted her. And so she was, like,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: supposed to meet up with him, and then he just, like,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: never showed up.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: She couldn't find him.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: That was my— I' m like, how— who bought this story? Like, she
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: went to the.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Cafe, and he was there. She didn't know it.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: She couldn't see him.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: She was looking for him. And how would he know
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: what she looked like? It's not like she could, like,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: send him a photo. No, he was her— he was, like,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: an assistant of hers. Yeah.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: And then— which also— That's not a Romeo and Juliet forbidden lover.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: That's like a different situation. How did she become so rich?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Because people were impressed that she, okay, so I looked
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: up briefly. So she wasn't born this way. At 19 months,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: she got some horrible illness, which back then, you know,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: which is why my mom, I remember one time one
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: of my, my daughter had an earache. And she, she said, she,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't know she had an earache, but she seemed sick.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: And my mom's like, took her temperature. And I remember
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: my mom was like, you don't fuck with an earache.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Look at Helen Keller. You like, don't, your kid has
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: an earache, a temperature. You do not fuck with that.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: You get that temperature down. But something like that happened.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: And then, then she lost her eyesight and her ear
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: and her hearing. And because of that, she hadn't started
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: speaking yet at 19 months. So then she lost the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: ability to speak. So did she create sign language?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: No, she didn't even do, how's she going to do
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: sign language? She can't see sign language.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: So the thought is, did the woman exist? Or like,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: what is the conspiracy?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: I think that she existed. But what they did was
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: they found somebody that they can prop up to be
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: like gay rights. And so they gave her a little
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: picket sign.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: She was gay too?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: She was like homeless and toothless. Homeless, not toothless. So
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: she didn't know any better. She was fighting for the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: homeless and the toothless. And she didn't even know what
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: she was fighting for. I think she was a mascot
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: that they propped up. And they're like, women's rights and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: all this. Because, I mean, the rabbit hole goes deep
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: with the.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: Number of causes. Did she go to the moon?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: That's the question. She was right there with Neil Armstrong
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: on the moon. And she was the first woman. She
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: flew the spaceship to the moon.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: So right now, if you look it up, it says
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: she flew her own plane herself.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: I think someone was with her. in the plane, but
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: she flew in the air for 20 minutes. How do
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: you teach someone that's blind and deaf? How do you
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: explain to them what a plane is if they've never
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: seen a plane before? And then how to drive the plane?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: I think someone just threw her in the plane and
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: was like autopilot underneath and she had no idea what
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: was going on.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: So you think it's just like stories made up in
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: a time that There wasn't like video footage to prove it.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: There's video footage of her, alleged video footage of her.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: Flying the plane?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Not flying the plane, but like of her and she's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: like talking.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Doing a TED Talk. She's doing a TED Talk. Oh
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: my God.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: And then at one point she like looks into the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: camera and smiles.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Where does Mel Robbins and Jay Shetty come into this story?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: They're going to interview Helen Keller. That's the next guest.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Like, Helen Keller was the epitome of the let them theory.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: Mel Robbins says let them, and Helen was like, let them.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Whatever they say I'm for, I'm for it. So I
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: just think she was, like, a prop that they used
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: to push, like, all these different causes. And, like, she
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: didn't know if she was sitting at the back of
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: the bus. She didn't know where in the bus she
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: was sitting.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like I did a fourth grade report on this.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we all did. We all studied it, but also why? Like,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: it doesn't make any sense. I was talking to my
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: mom about this, and she's like, all I remember is
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: that she was blind and deaf, and she was wild.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: And then there was a teacher, Ann Sullivan came in,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: and Ann, like, taught her how to behave.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it was Ann Sullivan.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Ann Sullivan.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was wild. That's right. She was, like, freaking out.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: And then Ann Sullivan was, like, the first, like, special
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: needs teacher type of a thing.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: She figured it out. The Helen Whisperer, yeah. The Blind Whisperer.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: And so my mom's like, was the moral of the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: story is like, we're supposed to listen to teachers. And
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: that's why they taught us all about this in school
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: is because teachers like, it's more because it's also like,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: why did we learn about that? She wasn't Rose Parks.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: And shouldn't Ann Sullivan have been the bigger star of
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: the story, really? You would think she would.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: Be the star. Like, I would be like, Ann Sullivan
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: got this blind and deaf girl and she turned her
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: into this huge social activist. She would raise money.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: For the ACLU. I mean, come on.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: Who doesn't want that life? Like Anne Sullivan should have
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: been the woman that we were championing. And instead we
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: were believing that Helen Keller flew a plane by herself.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: It makes absolutely no sense.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: It's so, that's so funny. Okay. I have a little
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: follow up on, uh, over the weekend. I talked about
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: this on Tuesday. I got a random text. Okay. Just
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: like a three, two, three number like this. And I,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: it was somebody fishing for a rich old man. It said, hello,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: handsome old man or something. And I was bored, and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Peter and Drake were golfing, and I wrote back and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: fucked with this person, and I created an old rich
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: man that plays golf. He lives in Century City. His
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: name is Charles, and he belongs to Riviera Country Club.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: And then they kept trying to get me to go
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: on their WhatsApp. And I... So I was just acting
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: old and I didn't know what's up. So after I
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: had my fun with this person, I then was scared
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: and I blocked the number. I screen grabbed all of
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: it and shared it with my juicy scoopers. Okay. They're
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: back with another 323 number.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: How do you know it's the same person?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Because she said, hi, hey, Charles. Oh. Hey, Charles. And
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: I said, who is this? And she said, it's Isabel.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: That's the same person it was before. I was actually
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: waiting for your message on WhatsApp, but you didn't message me. LOL.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: So I said, I don't use WhatsApp because I'm an
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: old man.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I don't use old– I don't use WhatsApp. Can you
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: meet me for a drink at the Waldorf on the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: rooftop tomorrow, 4.30 for sunset? Doesn't that sound nice?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I would meet him. Yeah. And it's in public.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. If you message me on WhatsApp, LOL, it's
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: easy to go wherever you are. I'm like, we're texting here.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Why do we have to go on WhatsApp? Okay.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Because I think there's some trickery to the WhatsApp.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: Got it.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: They can suck the money out of your bank account
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: easier from Nigeria or wherever this is.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: Before I go, before I download an app, can you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: send me a photo and I'll send you a pic
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: of me? Sure, but don't judge me. I'm not pretty
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: like what you think. Here you go. Sends a gorgeous
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: picture of a Filipino girl with a messy bun and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: a Starbucks cup.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. And then she says.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: They're all Asian girls. They used to be Nigerian and
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: they kidnapped. And now like this is the new scam.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: The scam.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: They're all Asian girls.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: This girl.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you the rest. Okay. She goes, where are
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: you now? Still there. Still there. And I said, I'm
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: walking into a dinner. You're gorgeous.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: I love that you're having this whole conversation.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: She says, thank you. But where's your picture? Or you
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: can send it to my WhatsApp.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Then she sent the WhatsApp thing. Okay. So then I
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: went on the.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: You clicked the WhatsApp?
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: No, I went on Google, whatever. And I said, give
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: me a older man. Because I said I was 53
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: years old. But obviously an older man that says he's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: 53 is actually like 59. Yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: So I found an older white man that was like
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: a Google image.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: A selfie.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: It has to be a selfie, right? It's not going
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: to be a model.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: With three fingers?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: And he's not cute, but not cute. Not cute. Agree.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to show his photo, but he's not cute.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: I would meet him at the Waldorf at 4.30 for
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: a cocktail.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: Because you know it's hard to get into the Waldorf,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: and it's a beautiful sunset.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: I actually went to the Waldorf the other night.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: The Waldorf is the best.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: L.A.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Looks so beautiful from the top of the Waldorf. You
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: don't see one gross, scary thing from the top of
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: the Waldorf. But it is hard to get a table,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: and the drinks are very expensive.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: I paid $ 40 for a martini.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: The drinks are so expensive.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: But Charles will get it for you.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: Okay?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She goes, why so blurred, LOL? And I go, oh, shit.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: You know, because I had screen grabbed the Google. And
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: I said, I didn't even notice.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: So she goes on, you look younger than your age. No,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: I don't, Isabel. So when you message me on my
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: personal WhatsApp, some stuff will see our conversation. You hear me?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Like the English is bad, obviously. And I think she's hinting,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: I'll show you like some nudity. Sorry, I can't understand you.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: Music in here. Starbucks is too loud.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: She said that or you said that?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: She called me. Oh. She called me. So I had
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Drake do an old voice.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: And he goes, hey, honey. And it was a, you know,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: an Asian accent.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: And then she said, sorry, I couldn't hear you. And
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: I go, why are you at a Starbucks at six
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: at night? You know, she's like, I'm at Starbucks because
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: that was that stock photo.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: And we know she's not in Starbucks. We know that
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: she's in the Philippines, like in a warehouse or something.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: And she said, she goes, I'm waiting to my stuff
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: here to give a report yesterday. If she doesn't show up,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: I'll just leave. Whatever. She's pretending like she's working.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: So then I just stopped. And then she wrote again,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: hope I can receive a good morning message on my WhatsApp.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: Good night. And then this morning, good morning, Charles. And
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: then this morning she called me again. And I just
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: didn't answer.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: I feel like we need to follow this plot through.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: When I get bored, when I run out of content,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm going to have time to
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: deal with Isabella BravoCon.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: Just tell her I'm at BravoCon. I'm in Vegas this weekend.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: But I will, I'll tell everybody, I will be doing
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: lots of content from my Patreon. We're going to do
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: a live stream. We're driving tomorrow afternoon. We're going to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: do a live stream, answer some questions. Maybe you'll even
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: give me some things that you want me to answer
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: during the live show. Of course, you're going to go
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: To HeatherMcDonald.net. You're going to join the patron and you're
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: going to get your ticket and you're going to follow Zach.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: What fun stuff are you doing? Where are you putting
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: all your fun, juicy content over the weekend? On your Instagram?
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: How are you doing it?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Instagram, YouTube. I have no filter, all access. People can
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: sign up for like behind the scenes fun stuff on
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: there as well. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: all over Vegas this weekend. I'm doing BravoCon all day
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: Friday and New Kids all day Saturday. I'm going to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: see you Friday night.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Right. And so when you are walking around BravoCon, I mean,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: have you done it before?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: I've never done BravoCon. The last time I was there,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: it was for a Weight Watchers brand deal that I
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: flew in for.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: You mean just Vegas?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: It was a work thing. It was part of BravoCon.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: But you didn't go to the convention?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: It was like a last minute thing. I got a
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: call like Friday morning. Like, can you be here?
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: I wish somebody would call me and say, can you
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: show up at the Weight Watchers for a last minute check?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I can. They thought I was
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: in Vegas for BravoCon. And then I was like, no.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: I was like, but if there's a check, I will fly. Like,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: I'll be there tomorrow. It's a 45 minute flight.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: Tell me when.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: So, well, you will be besieged with people that recognize you.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: And so that is very fun.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: Hopefully they're nice.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're always nice. They're never not nice. The people
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: that go to BravoCon and, you know, especially the ones,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: obviously the best ones are the ones that go to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: my show.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: I actually was, when I was in Vegas last time,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: since I was staying at Caesars, there were a lot
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: of people that were at BravoCon that I got to like,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: that did recognize me or follow the podcast.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it's a great vibe.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: Very sweet.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: It's a great vibe. It's a lot of fun. It's
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of taking photos and things like that, which
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: is fun and great. I will say one thing, and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to tell people this, because this is
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: what I don't like about it, is when you are
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: walking around Vegas, whether you're at BravoCon or whatever, and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: people come up to you, we all love it, and
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: we take photos and stuff. But if there's a miscommunication
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: or the person that you're trying to get the photo
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: of it, whether it's me, Zach, or a housewife, or
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: Andy himself, and you're He can't do it, or your
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: phone's not ready, or they literally have to get to
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: the next place where they contractually have to go over here.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: Do not then.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: Go on TikTok.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Go on TikTok and say that that person was a bitch.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Unless they said, fuck you and threw a drink in
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: your face. Being busy, having handlers, running around. It's not
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: fair then to like judge someone that's like, I just
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: need to pee. Like I haven't had any. I had
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: to do that a few times. I was like, I literally,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: if I don't have something to drink right now, like
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: I'm going to faint again. Like they're just, and you know,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: and the talent has the golf carts and the people
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: to walk them through. But the people that are just
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: kind of like us or like influencers or whatever that
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: are happy to be there that want to take a
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: photo with you, just give everybody a little grace.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: You know, because it is really fun. And the fun
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: part is going out and meeting people and taking photos.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: We're all about it.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm looking forward. It's going to be fun.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: Now I'm getting real excited.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: I know. The closer it gets, the more I'm like, oh,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: this is actually going to be fun. Because then I'm
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: seeing everyone else that's going. We're planning. I know Stu
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: and I. I just had stew on my podcast, chef stew.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: And we were, we literally were just taught, we forgot
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: we were on the, the live stream and we were
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: just like talking through our itinerary for the week. And
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: then we're like, well now everybody knows where we're at
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: and where we're having dinner, what we're doing. Um, but
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: I'm excited to see everybody. Cause it's like, you know,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: everyone that you know from the internet is now all
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: together or in the TV. Like we're all together in
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: one place.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's all good. And you know what? You never
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: know where the world will be in two years. It,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm always like, this could be the last. And
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: if you're not going, no FOMO, watch, get my streamer,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: follow all of us. There's stuff you can watch on Peacock.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: Like you can still have fun from the comfort of
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: your own home. Your feet won't be tired. You won't
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: be spending thousands of dollars. Yeah. You know, so like
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: you could still have fun with it.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: Do you think Sheena and Tamara will squash the beef
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  Speaker 3: Oh, are they doing a thing? Squash the Beef?
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  Speaker 4: Is that one of them? Well, they always do Bravo.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that whole thing of blaming Sheena was, like, ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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