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Delanie Walker Enters The Inside The Bus Hall Of Fame | Inside The Bus · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode twenty of Inside the Bus. Jared's
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  Speaker 1: got he uh. This episode twenty, we had to have
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest guests of all time, the future
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Titans Hall of Famer, and just one
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  Speaker 1: of the overall, just one of the boys.
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  Speaker 2: Give it up for Delaney Walker. Thank y'all, Thank y'all,
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  Speaker 2: thank y'all for having me.
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  Speaker 3: I think, hands down our favorite doubt of the talent,
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  Speaker 3: without a doubt. From day one. Always has shown love.
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  Speaker 3: He always comes to the back chops it up. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of stories that Delaney has for us that
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  Speaker 3: can't be shared on podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: But he is here.
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  Speaker 4: He has created and added.
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  Speaker 3: To the culture of the back of the bus more
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  Speaker 3: than for sure, than anybody for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why this is this question that I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna I was talking about before. I feel like this
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  Speaker 1: question is only for Delaney and like he can only
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  Speaker 1: answer it. What was your first impression of each guy
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  Speaker 1: in the back since you've been You've been around to
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  Speaker 1: so much, you've hung out with so much, coming back
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  Speaker 1: and just chop it up, what is your first impression
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  Speaker 1: to beat you all us?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good question, to be honest, with y'all because
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  Speaker 5: all y'all have something different about y'all but similar, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Right, definitely all white, for sure,
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  Speaker 5: all white, but uh, y'all just do something different. Y'all
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  Speaker 5: carry y'allself different, but when y'all get around each other,
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  Speaker 5: y'all kind of almost have that same thinking mindset.
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  Speaker 2: And I like that.
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  Speaker 5: But the first thing about you guys was I said
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  Speaker 5: what I thought about y'all were y'all go getters, bro
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  Speaker 5: Because I can remember from the beginning. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if y'all was getting paid to do this or whatnot,
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  Speaker 5: but y'are not like y'all were grinding, you know, just
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  Speaker 5: seeing the videos whatever coming out, and honestly, like I
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  Speaker 5: can remember the first I don't know how many people
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  Speaker 5: worked on that first episode, but that first episode went crazy,
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  Speaker 5: and I think I got even more popular over fuck
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  Speaker 5: what it was? It It was, uh, these stories, draft,
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  Speaker 5: the type, no draft, the tight end, he won't fucking
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  Speaker 5: play like that. Ship went crazy, right, And then I realized,
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  Speaker 5: like they these dudes get it. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: y'all get y'all get what makes ship works. Because even
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  Speaker 5: in the content now, people be like who man, you crazy?
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  Speaker 5: You funny how you put that together? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: it ain't me, It ain't me. It's this dudes that
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  Speaker 5: when you see him, you probably wouldn't even think they
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  Speaker 5: were doing that type of ship.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all athletes, Yeah yeah, now yeah, y'all kind of y'all
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  Speaker 6: got athletic abilities, you know what I'm saying, for the
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  Speaker 6: most part, Yeah, for the most part.
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  Speaker 5: I mean Jared, Jared is the gangster. You know, he
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  Speaker 5: he didn't play sports. He you know, pull up, rolling
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  Speaker 5: with the with the burner. You know, he he willing
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  Speaker 5: to sacrifice his life. No, but all you guys, man,
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  Speaker 5: y'all seem like y'all was like college dudes and then
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  Speaker 5: y'all has y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Was hungry to be successful, and uh, that's what I like.
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  Speaker 5: I like y'all. I feel like I kind of relate
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  Speaker 5: to y'all more than I relate to and Taylor. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know why, but that's what I feel right like,
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  Speaker 5: because after we get down with the show, it's like I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't care about talking to them, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I come want to talk to y'all in the back
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  Speaker 5: because the conversations are more real.
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  Speaker 2: I think I feel interest like you're just.
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  Speaker 1: Back at college, just hanging with a bunch of white
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  Speaker 1: dudes again talking about random shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they feel like.
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  Speaker 5: To be honest with is like I can I know
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  Speaker 5: I'm older than everybody in here, but like when I
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  Speaker 5: come around you guys, I feel like I'm one of y'all.
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  Speaker 2: And that goes to y'all just accepting me. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: I know I'm crazy as hell, and uh, the stories
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  Speaker 5: we talk about. Then sometimes I get y'all to open
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  Speaker 5: up about personal stuff, and that's what I like about
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  Speaker 5: it because we kind of we throw punches at each
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  Speaker 5: other and keep it moving.
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  Speaker 7: So while working on the topic of you remind you
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  Speaker 7: of maybe those college days, give us a little background
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  Speaker 7: story for anyone who's not aware of where you're from
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  Speaker 7: and how you got to where you were in college,
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  Speaker 7: and then then we can kind of go from there
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  Speaker 7: because I know there's gonna be a few listeners and
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  Speaker 7: maybe this is the first time hearing from you, but
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  Speaker 7: majority of probably nine nine percent, I heard everything but.
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  Speaker 2: The one.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So first I'll start off, I'm from Los Angeles, California.
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  Speaker 5: Long story, but I'm gonna give y'all that shirt short version.
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  Speaker 5: Highly recruited in college, but I got I mean in
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  Speaker 5: high school, but I got in trouble. I got a
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  Speaker 5: felony salt and battery coming out of high school, so
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  Speaker 5: I couldn't leave. To stay at California for two years.
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  Speaker 5: Pretty much did the Juco route. But when I was
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  Speaker 5: in Juco, man, I was just I was still around
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  Speaker 5: the same people, you know what I mean, and they
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  Speaker 5: didn't care for my future. And I didn't care for
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  Speaker 5: my future as much as neither because if I did
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  Speaker 5: the things that I did, obviously I didn't. But I
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  Speaker 5: had another opportunity. Man, Thank god for the Central Missouri state.
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  Speaker 5: They saw something in me. Was like, look, we want
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  Speaker 5: to give you a shot. We want you to come
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  Speaker 5: up here to Central Missouri. First off, never heard of
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  Speaker 5: Central Missouri, never thought I would be in Missouri. So
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  Speaker 5: I get to Missouri madominantly white school.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Like, Well, I get there and catch like if you black,
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  Speaker 5: you either play sports or ship you you you want
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  Speaker 5: to be white.
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  Speaker 4: So at the time.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I know, I was like, Okay, it's either
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  Speaker 5: one shit. I guess I would choose to play sports
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  Speaker 5: for right now. But so I get there, I stay
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  Speaker 5: in the Dorn for the first year, I ain't really
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  Speaker 5: meet a lot of people. But then I met this
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  Speaker 5: guy named Corey Bringers, white guy. You know, Corey is
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  Speaker 5: still my dog. I still I still talk to him
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  Speaker 5: every once in a while. But so he plays safety
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, damn, man, I want to learn
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  Speaker 5: how to talk to white girls.
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  Speaker 2: And he like what you mean?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he like what your I never talked to a
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  Speaker 5: white girl before, right, So, like Cau's coming from where
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  Speaker 5: I lived, it wasn't too many white girls. And if
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  Speaker 5: it was a white girl in our neighborhood, she was
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  Speaker 5: fucking busty, ratchet, disgusting. I ain't talking to at you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. She talking black and all that bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want that.
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  Speaker 5: So he's like, you know what, move in with me
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  Speaker 5: and my roommate. So it was three of those dudes
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  Speaker 5: living in this house. And he was like, you want
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  Speaker 5: to move in with us? So I said, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 5: do it. I move in with him. I never drank
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  Speaker 5: natty light, I mean fireball chewing. I mean I went
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  Speaker 5: up in there and my whole, my whole attitude changed
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  Speaker 5: on life, Like I realized I was stuck in a box. Man,
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  Speaker 5: my whole life, I've been stuck in the box, and
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  Speaker 5: I never experienced anything fun. And then when I got
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  Speaker 5: the Central and I lived with Corey and them, they
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  Speaker 5: took me snowboarding, they took me to the beach, They
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  Speaker 5: took me.
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  Speaker 2: They pretty much showed me what I was missing out
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  Speaker 2: my whole entire life. And I love hanging with them.
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  Speaker 2: Like it was.
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  Speaker 5: I remember like some for like the fraternity dudes would
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  Speaker 5: come like, man, why are you always messing with white boys?
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  Speaker 5: Like why you always hang with those white boys? And
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  Speaker 5: I'd be mad, like them my dogs, like you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, in my roommates, them my boys, Like
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  Speaker 5: any day you want to test them, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 5: to chop it up with me, because they showed me love.
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  Speaker 2: And I never seen that before.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like I said, I come from the hood,
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  Speaker 5: so like we've been always tall. You gotta be careful,
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  Speaker 5: you gotta do this, be careful around them. And but
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  Speaker 5: when I got there, it was like they didn't even
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  Speaker 5: see it that way. They were just like, bro, we brothers,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And I love that about
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  Speaker 5: them because I was different. You know, they had to
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  Speaker 5: relate to me because I was totally different, and I
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  Speaker 5: was saying things I've never seen before.
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  Speaker 2: That made me just be like, damn, why they doing this?
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, not understanding it, but being
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  Speaker 5: there made me understand life is bigger than where we
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  Speaker 5: all come from, right because everybody gotta value differences because
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  Speaker 5: we don't know how that person grew up. And uh,
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  Speaker 5: they opened my eyes to a lot of stuff, man,
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  Speaker 5: and I was thankful. And then that goes to your
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  Speaker 5: question on why hang like hanging with y'all because y'all
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  Speaker 5: give me those vibes like it's the same. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't care where d he come from. I don't
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  Speaker 5: care who he is. He cool with us, he acts
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  Speaker 5: like us. I fuck with him, and that's what I'm
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  Speaker 5: used to. So anytime I can relate to that, I
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  Speaker 5: kind of I guess I cling onto it, you know
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  Speaker 5: what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense right there? So that's real.
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  Speaker 7: Wait, I remember back in the day, I don't know
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  Speaker 7: it was a couple of years ago. You talked about
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  Speaker 7: how when you first got there, those boys took you
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  Speaker 7: out like shopping and got your like new clothes.
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  Speaker 8: You gotta you gotta least.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, like I told half of it when I told
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  Speaker 5: her I wanted to get white chicks. And he really
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  Speaker 5: was like, dressed like that. That's how he told me,
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  Speaker 5: Like you look like an La like Hood movie. You
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  Speaker 5: know I was wearing at this time, I was wearing
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  Speaker 5: Jaebol's size forty two. I was wearing fire ix t
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  Speaker 5: like the te came down to my knees, ankles, like
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about double.
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing boxers, basketball shorts.
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  Speaker 5: Jeans, anything. I'm ready for anything. You know, I'm ready
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  Speaker 5: for anything. So he was like, dude, you're not gonna
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  Speaker 5: get no white girls out here like that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm pimping you know what I'm saying. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 5: trust me you. We gotta take you to Armored Cambrie fit.
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  Speaker 5: Is that how you say.
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  Speaker 4: Abercmbrish, Yes, it is exactly I said.
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  Speaker 5: So he takes me there. I walk in there. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: ain't nothing in here gonna fit me? Like that's what
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking, because you know, you you walk in,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the first thing you see the white boy
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  Speaker 5: with his shirt off.
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  Speaker 2: He got the jeans on no belt.
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  Speaker 7: That was back when Abercombie, like the marketing for it
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  Speaker 7: was literally just shirtless, ripped gans.
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  Speaker 4: Smelt was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's when I went in there and I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 5: for real, like for real. And then he was like,
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  Speaker 5: don't worry, you know what I'm saying, tar these on.
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  Speaker 2: I come out like and they kind of tight. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 5: Everything was tight, Everything was tight. But he gonna put
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  Speaker 5: these in, put these shoes.
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  Speaker 2: On with them. I'm like, oh, ship come together now.
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  Speaker 8: The boy look at all right.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, try these rainbows.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, man, nigga, nigga, don't wear open toe to
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  Speaker 5: uh sandals, you know what I'm saying. I just never
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  Speaker 5: done that before. I never wore sandals without socks, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So like when they shot me those,
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  Speaker 5: I tried to slide them on with the socks. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, the sock the things they won't go through,
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  Speaker 5: so they like, you gotta take your socks off. I
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  Speaker 5: ain't gonna carry it. Took me a while to really
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  Speaker 5: buy into the no socks, but when I did, we
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  Speaker 5: had went to a day party first Darty. It was
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  Speaker 5: like that I was a new student and I already
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  Speaker 5: had been here. Everybody is like, hey, who are you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, I'm number three.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, you're number three? Oh my god? You know after that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm swimming, I'm blowing them back. I'm going back. I'm
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to uh navy blue.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to all the spots like, oh yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: time to wear a little tighter d.
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  Speaker 2: Here killing old.
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  Speaker 8: That's so body.
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  Speaker 9: It literally feels like like it'd be like a movie,
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  Speaker 9: like the reverse, Like like I don't know what it be,
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  Speaker 9: but it's like just two white dudes taking this dude
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  Speaker 9: from fucking like La Central and they're like we're on
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  Speaker 9: deck them out and then all of a sudden, you
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  Speaker 9: just take over the town.
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  Speaker 2: Take over.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm wearing I go back home. Cats like, well,
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  Speaker 5: what the fuck are you wearing? Like my homies like,
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  Speaker 5: what are you wearing?
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  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh bro, yeah, I'm like, Yo, this is it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling like, hey, this is it. This is how
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  Speaker 5: you bust down. I'm like, We're gonna go to Ontario Mills.
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  Speaker 5: Watch how many white bitches I bust they like should
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  Speaker 5: wear to God? Can I cut yeah. Yeah, So I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: let's do it. We go to the meals. I'm I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: hey there, I'm just walking up.
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  Speaker 2: They like you tripping. I'm locking up the white girls.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing? They're like, yeah, are you like this? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know I got these in Missouri.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have them out here yet, like right, killing them,
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  Speaker 5: busting to my homies.
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  Speaker 2: They start switching. They let's start switching. They shot me
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  Speaker 2: a v ads go. I'm like, oh yeah, yeah that was.
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  Speaker 4: Gone remotely gentrifying his old neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: They all dressed like me.
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  Speaker 8: Now that's so.
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  Speaker 4: Go sides down, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Go sides down always like if you if you, if
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  Speaker 5: you get too much goal sides down, I say, and
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  Speaker 5: find a stretchy ones. They bust so once I got
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  Speaker 5: put on, it was overweight. They couldn't tell me nothing
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  Speaker 5: at the school, dude, isn't it.
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  Speaker 4: Like would you change your journey at all?
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  Speaker 2: Nah? Nah?
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  Speaker 3: And inn't that crazy because I'm sure in those first
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  Speaker 3: two years, like if you're when you're in juco or
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  Speaker 3: when you're leaving high school knowing you can't go to
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  Speaker 3: big schools, probably like man, I wish I could do
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  Speaker 3: this differently.
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  Speaker 4: Then you get forward. It's like, no, that was the
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  Speaker 4: best thing that could happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it was the best thing that
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  Speaker 2: could have happened to me.
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  Speaker 5: But honestly, if I was to say, like that route
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  Speaker 5: I took, no, I would not want to take that route.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like it was hard. It
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  Speaker 5: was hard, but it was hard because of me, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Like people sit here and be
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  Speaker 5: blaming other people all the time for like situational stuff,
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  Speaker 5: but it was really me. I could have chose not
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  Speaker 5: to hang with the hommies. I could have went to
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  Speaker 5: school every day, you know what I'm saying. I could
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  Speaker 5: have done those things, but I didn't want to at
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  Speaker 5: that time.
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  Speaker 2: So was it the right thing for me? Maybe? You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Because going to Central opened up my eyes because Willie Fritz,
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  Speaker 5: that was my head coach at the time, he uh
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  Speaker 5: he coaching at Houston right now, he was on me,
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  Speaker 5: on me.
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  Speaker 2: At first.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't like Willie, like I didn't understand him. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know what he wanted from me. As I
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  Speaker 5: thought he just hated me because I was from California.
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  Speaker 5: Because the first thing he told me and I'm sure
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  Speaker 5: you probably tell everybody this now because I made it.
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  Speaker 5: I come in. He goes one thing. I gotta tell you.
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  Speaker 5: I go what he goes, I hate people from California.
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  Speaker 5: I was tooking back. Yeah, I was tooking back. I said,
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  Speaker 5: oh okay. He said, you want to know why. I
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  Speaker 5: said sure.
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  Speaker 2: He says, three weeks for three reasons, y'all smoked dope,
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  Speaker 2: y'all rape bitches, and y'all game bangers. He didn't say bitches,
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  Speaker 2: he said, he said yeah. He said everything he said,
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  Speaker 2: y'all rapist pretty much. He was like, y'all rapist. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not two of those things. Here's where you got
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  Speaker 2: it all wrong, where you got it all wrong. But
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  Speaker 2: you know he told me that. He said, prove me wrong,
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  Speaker 2: show me who you really are. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I walked out of that room like, fuck this, dude.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't even gonna lie. I said, man, fuck Willie Fritz.
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  Speaker 5: I got on the phone and I called my juco coach.
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  Speaker 5: I said, I made a mistake. I want to leave.
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  Speaker 5: He said, d you can't leave like you you there,
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  Speaker 5: you signed the paper. If you leave, you're gona have
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  Speaker 5: to sit out a year.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, God, oh fuck it.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, whatever i'ma I'm gonna take I'm gonna
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: bite this bullet. And then it was every day Willy
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: just picked on me, picked on and picked on picked
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: on me. But it like now a as the as
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: the picture clears, he was just trying to make me
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: a man, right, Like I was a big ass kid
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: coming into a place where they teach you how to
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: become a man.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: But I was fighting that right.
• 15:47
  Speaker 10: At what point do you think you realized what he was, like,
• 15:49
  Speaker 10: how hard he was on you, was for the right reason,
• 15:52
  Speaker 10: or did you leave Central Missouri still being like fuck
• 15:55
  Speaker 10: that dude?
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I left Central Missouri like fuck that.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like fuck Willie Fritz, Like I don't
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: want nothing to do with Willie, but I think I
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: will say year three in the NFL. Everything he was
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: teaching me was coming to life, right, So I was like, God,
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: damn will He told me about this will. He told
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: me about this will. He said this was gonna happen.
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: You know. It was just like life lessons was flashing
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: through my eye and he cared about me.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I growing up where I grew up.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that's how another man would care for
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: another man, you know, because I never seen it like
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: that before.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Like he was hard on me, but he pushed me.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but he pushed me.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Like like I didn't get it what he was doing.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Like I ran every day on Wednesday, me and him.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: He'll come get me at five thirty in the morning
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: and we would run and he would run with me, though,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: but beat me, like just beat me, just bad. And
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: I'm like, he was like, until you can beat me,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: We're gonna do this all day. I'm like, oh, damn me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: So I did it until my senior year and then
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: finally my senior year. I don't know, he just I
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: guess I kind of woke up. I stopped being as
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: crazy in my senior year, and he kind of let
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: me alone. But when we lose a game, he'll be
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: like you. He'll come up on the board, he'll be like,
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: y'all know what we lost? And then he'll call Somebody'll
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: be like, hey, Greg, why did we lose this game?
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: And then he'll be like, oh, man, we had too
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: many turnovers. She'd be like, Nope, that's not it. He'd
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: be like, yeah, why would we lose this game. You'd
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: be like, oh, man, we didn't tackle well in the rezon. Nope,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: that's not it. He'd be like, I'm gonna tell y'all all,
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: we lost this game because the Laney did not play well.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like damn much.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: Were you like head of those shoulders, the best guy
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: on your team?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I had crazy.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: Crazy, was crazy.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I was going ham but you know he knew it
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: so hard to sit in there and hear that over
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: and over.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Bro, I would sit there.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: I mean we only we only lost two games my
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: we lost one. We lost one game my first year,
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: and then we lost two games my second year.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: And uh yeah. It used to be tough.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: But I'll be sitting in the meeting, bro, like I
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: wouldn't even be zoned out.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I'll just be zoned out.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Like because my receiver coach during h we used to
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: tell me like, don't let it get to you, because
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: if you let it get to you, he won. Yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I don't know what that means, Like
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: he getting to me.
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: Like perfect like coach in your position room to like
• 18:37
  Speaker 10: kind of combat with the head coach is saying, but
• 18:39
  Speaker 10: also being like listen to him, but don't let it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And he would do that all
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: the time. A third coach H hell of a coach man.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: He used to him and his wife and his kids.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: They would bring me to dinner every week because he
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: would be like, man, I know you can be.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: A good kid.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I see it, like you're a hell of a player,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: but that needs to carry over off the field.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: So they would just we would have dinner.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: I would sit with his family, talk to his wife she,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: you know, have conversations with them. Just they'd be like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: how you feeling what's going on? Like yeah, just like
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: and I knew coach wasn't gonna tell the head coach
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: because I didn't told him stuff and he ain't never
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: went back, So I kind of had trust in this man.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: And and UH and him and Willie you know what
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: I mean. They he hired Darren h just to coach me.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: He literally told me, like I hired this guy so
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: he could coach you.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what where is that coach H from? Uh?
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: He had just came from Arizona State, so and he
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: knew about me because I had took a trip up
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: the Arizona State So.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: There H knew about me. So that's why he came
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Another great story from yeah yeah, oh yeah, that was.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: In your journey, Like from you Co into Central, did
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: you know you were always going league bound or was
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: there like a moment when you like you get in trouble,
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: you go Juco and you're like maybe this dream is
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: no longer attainable and you're just kind of just trying
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: to live out the last few years of a football career.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Like at what point were you like, oh, shit, like
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go to the NFL and like this is
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: gonna be a career for me.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: That's a good question.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you, because like every time
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I got in trouble, I'm like, damn, I'm probably not
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: gonna go to the league because this is gonna carry
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: this baggage is gonna carry with me. And then I'll
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: go to Juco and I'm like, I'm not thinking about
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: the league, but then I'll ball out and then coaches
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: be like, bruh, you can go to the league, Like
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: and then I hear that again, like yah, yeah, I'm
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: the shit again, you know what I'm saying, Like it
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: was like hearing it and then I didn't get the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: grades to go to the USC, which I was supposed
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: to go to, but I didn't get the grades. Inane, yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: because it was me and Mike Williams. That's who they want.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: They was like Mike Williams and you on the other side.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I'm like, hell yeah, like I was in. But that
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: didn't motivate me. See that should have motivated me to
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: get the grades. But see I was still running these
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: streets thinking I was somebody I wasn't. So then I
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: go to Central Now at D two, I'm like, I'm
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: not going to the league, Like this is a rap,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. I remember my mom
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: sayd just go get get a degree and make something
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: to yourself, because you know D two right, Like.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well I'm gonna do that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to get away from the city too.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So I go up there. My first year there, I
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: go nuts. Though, I go nuts. I don't even know
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: where this came from, you know what I'm saying. I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: just I'm out there playing on just just athletic ability, right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was out of shape. Like I did
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the conditioning test.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: I didn't even pass it the first year I got there,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: I ran it every day and they just was like, dude,
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: fuck that you like you done. I didn't pass it
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: the first year. I couldn't The first year, I couldn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: pass it. I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds for real.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. I know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it doesn't even make sense. I couldn't lift two hundred pounds.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: We get we'll get to that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: So they get there and they tested me. I can't
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: even lift two hundred pounds. They're like, what the but
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: you got remember at Juco, I didn't do nothing. If people,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: if people know me that went to Mount Sack, they
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: tell you Delaney was a star. He barely came in
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: the weight room, he barely did condition I would show
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: up to practice and practice and that was it, and
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: I leave when they had workouts. I went home, jumped
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: in the web, went home. They never told me nothing,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: so I believe that's how it was. And then I
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: got the central and they smacked me in the face
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: like here, come on, conditioning test, get.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: In the weight room.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I couldn't even lift two hundred pounds. They like, and
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: we brought all the players and.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: We brought this dude in here to start. Yeah, but
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: guess what they put me on the field.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: I ain't need none of that stiff arming running cats
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: over like fucking weight room.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I'm screaming at who who works out?
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Nobody, you know, I'm screaming it.
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: I want to think about how, like what a cheat
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: code it was once. Still they did work out and
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: condition and everything.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I want to see.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I wish you could find your like college highlights and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: stuff and just sit there just because I can imagine
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the people you're going against in Missouri, and it's like
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: this just isn't even fair.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they some people will say, like, man I played
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: against it. I see comments like man I played against
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: that ship wasn't even fair. He was like a man
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: of much giants, And it wasn't Because my senior year,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: once I started working out and running and lifting weights.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: For guys, at least take you down.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: They know I'm breaking all those tell you I'm stiff
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: arming cats, I'm jumping over cast in the weight room. Yeah,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I start getting in that weight room now. If you
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: go to Central, I hold all the records for the
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: wide receivers because I I didn't. That first year, I
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: ain't even care.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I was beat every game.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I'm like, god, damn, I can't walk, you know what
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was just like maybe I need to
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: start working out, you know. And then I remember the
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: off season, I didn't go home because I didn't have
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: no money. My mom didn't have money to fly me home.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: So they got me a job at this car at
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: this dealership. But my job was just to drive brand
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: new cars every week, right, so like just so I
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: can have money. So like the dude didn't come in.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: He also gave me a house to stay in. Like, yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: the guy was hell of cool. He was I guess
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: he was like a booster for the I wish I
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: knew his name to give him a shot out.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I don't, but he's.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Probably listening to So yeah, I'm sure his daughter because
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: his daughter. So his daughter lived in that house and
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: he brought her a new house, so they had moved
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: out and let us move in there. And I, you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I met his daughter and stuff, and he would just
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: be like, hey, come pick up a car and I'll
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: drive it. And when I dropped it out, he's like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: you think of college shooting by this car. I'm like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, yeah, most definitely, you know this.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I loved it. He'd be like, all right, now it's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: a minivan, go check that out.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: So I'll draw different cars on off season. But I
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: was working my tail off because I was there. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: they like, since you hear, you need to come up
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: here every day. So I'll go up there every day
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: watching film. It just be me and the coaches. I'll
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: work out with them. They'll all run with me, like
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: cause they knew the motivation, like we can make this
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: guy the player we know he could be.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Oh man, he'll be unstoppable.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: So that my senior year, I gave all the credit
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: to those coaches, and I'll tell y'all to this day
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: like I still do because they they pushed me. They
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: motivated me to get in the weight room, to condition,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: to study defenses. Man, am I'm telling y'all, when I
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: first started playing, I didn't even watch film.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I ain't do none of that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: I just went out there, like, man, they can only
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: do all they can only do four coverages, cover two
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: cloud two man like man, are three right?
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: And they can't cover me?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: And they can't cover me.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: You know what? I mean, so I looked at it
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: as I just knew the game, but once I studied it,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: oh man, it was scouts start coming. I start seeing
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: it because they used to be like, you put it into work,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: you're gonna start seeing the rewards, right, And I start
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: seeing the rewards, they'd be like, Yo, look Arizona, Arizona here,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: the forty nine ers here.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be like, for real, So, was there ever?
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: Okay, so you're talking about NFL after Central Missouri, Like
• 26:24
  Speaker 10: obviously you think like you ended with a good season.
• 26:28
  Speaker 10: What was the process like going into the NFL? Like
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: combine draft process like all of that? Were you just
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: like did anyone guide you in that direction? Or you're
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: just kind of like, shit, I don't know how this
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: is gonna work, but I hope it does.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: So, like by the second game of the season, I
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: had came out in the ESPN magazine as.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: A sleeper, and the whole school passed out magazine. It
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: was crazy.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I walked around Magazine two at that time was.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: The magazine, and I'm in there like I got my
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: own kind of page, like.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: A sleeper wearing rainbows.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, people like yo, this shoe, they like
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: this shoe. I'm like, I didn't even know it was out.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, hell, yeah, where you get this from?
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: They like, oh, they handed them out for free. I'm
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: like they like, can you sign it? So I sign it?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: And I remember going to class and one of my
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: professors go, why.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Are you here? I go, we got class. She's like, no,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: you're about to be rich. I said what. She's like, yeah,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the ESPN magazine. Everyone's handing them out. I'm like, oh yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I get me any money yet. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I'm like I'm like, it's just a magazine. You know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: we still got two more games.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Did you keep a copy of it? My mom? Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: my mom got a copy of it, and yeah it is.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: I like to be a moment too, from like from
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: how you've grown up, Like every moment where you've gotten
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: a little bit of notoriety, you kind of like revert
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: back to how you were and then like you're sitting
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: and you just like why are you here?
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: And you're maybe for.
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: Like the first time, you're like no, like this is
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: the beginning, Like I'm here because of this.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how I kind of felt, because, like you said,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: every time I got.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: A little bit of notoriety.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: I almost reverted back to being an asshole, you know
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: what I mean. So at this point I looked at
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: it as an accomplishment, but I'm like.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Nothing happened.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: These are just words and pictures, right, Like everybody took
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: it and ran with it, but I didn't. And then
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: when agents start calling me, it kind of almost start
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: going off. I'm like, man, who the hell calling me
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: from Houston? Like just crazy number. I answered, Hey, I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: an agent that man. You seen you came out ESPN magazine.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: What's your plans?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I need to talk to my coach first.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: They're like, oh, if you tell your coach, you know
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: he gonna tell you don't talk to me because we
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: still had two games left.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna tell my coach.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Lying I go tell Willa, yeah, because I just don't
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: want to get in trouble because I heard people getting
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: in trouble. Reggie Bush had took some money and all
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: of that craziness. So I was like, hey, Willy, I'm
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: having agents call me. He like, don't you talk to
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: no agents. I'm like, I'm not. That's why I'm telling
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: you sir, like out of respect, He's like, when you
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: need an agent, I'm gonna have an agent for you.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I said, okay. Cool. I kind of took it as
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that and was like cool. So the season over, the.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: D two Bowl come out where all the top D
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: two players playing in this bowl. And at this point,
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I'm talking to agents now because I'm like, shit, I
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: need to figure out what's going on. Because Willie wanted
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: me to talk to his guy, but I wanted to
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: hear from other guys. Right, So I called about three
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: agents and they said, do not playing that D two Bowl.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: They said, you're better than that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: You're gonna get accepted into the D one Bowl, All
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Star Ball whatever.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you sure.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: They like your name is buzzing to not playing that bowl. So,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: long story shortcomes I get invited to the ball, they
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: bring me up, they do the whole Dwayne Walker All
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Star Bull D two Bowl, and then I get up like, hey,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: I just want to thank everybody.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do this without the old line quarterbacks, right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: My other receivers like, I'm thankful, but I will not
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: be playing in a D two Bowl, and Willie went nuh.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: He was like, we need to talk after this. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: we're going heat showing me out. You ain't not gonna
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: represent the school in D two. Boy, I said, I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: gonna get in the I'm gonna be in the D
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: one Bowl. He like, no, how you know you ain't.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: They ain't handling them out yet. I'm like, I know
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: for a fact I'm getting in one. He like, you
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: been talking to an agent. I'm like, I have been
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: talking to a few agents that told me that my
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: name is buzzing. He like, they just saying that they
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: want you to sign with him. They all just saying that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: Don't believe them. You're not gonna make it to a
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: D one Bowl. So when he said that, I was
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: kind of like, what, you don't think I'm that good?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And like I'm just don't want you to be highs.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: And then the lows come and I'm like, Okay, I'm
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: gonna think about it, but I'm not. Don't sign the paperwork,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: don't do nothing yet. So then my agent that I
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: signed with, Vincent Taylor. I remember talking to him the
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: most because he would just be like, look, you talented,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: It's up to you. He will always tell me it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: up to you. You do what you want. I only
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: get paid when you get paid. Everybody else was trying
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: to tell me this money shit, but he was the
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: only honest one. So I said, can you come to Central,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Can you come to Missouri and meet me? Can we
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: meet in person? He said, I'm on I'm on the plane.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: So he came over. We met in person and he
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: was talking about the D one Bow and he I'll say, look,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I have other agents told me I shouldn't play in
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: the D two Bowl because if I get hurt, I
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: won't be able to play in the D one Bow.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: He said, that is true.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: He said, I've been hearing noise about you getting into
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: this D one Bowl, but it ain't They ain't pulled
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: the list yet. I said, so, do you think I
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: should play in the D two Bowl? He's like, nah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I don't think you should. I think you're gonna be
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: in this D one Bowl. So I'm like, okay, I'm
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: gonna run with that. I said, can you meet Willie Fritz?
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: He said, oh, yeah, I definitely meet WILLI so him
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: and Melly with him and Willy talked. He telled Willie
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: to leave. He pulled me in. He said, I don't
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: like that guy. I go why. He's like, he's only
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: about money. Look at him.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: He's flashy. He got a purple suit on him. I'm like, yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I kind of like that suit.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I kind of like that. I think
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: he looked clean. He's like, no, you need to meet
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: my guy. Don't sign with him until you meet my guy,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: said Coach, just because you put me in this position,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna meet your guy, I won't sign with him.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: So I go out and go, Vince, stay here. I'm
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: gonna meet with his guy tomorrow. I'm gonna make my decision.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: So we go to the steakhouse. Will he pay for
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: all this stuff? His guy comes, Man, his guy comes
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: with Daisy Duke shorts on flip flops.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the lady on a Saturday.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I see him coming out. I'm like that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: bet n not be him. This dude comes up to me.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: He comes up. I'm like, you the agent. He's like, yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I'm the agent.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: I work with Rod Green and all these other people
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: that Rod went to the NFL too.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh okay.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: He's like, look, man, you're not gonna get in that
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: D one Bowl, so you should play in that D
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: two Bowl. I'm telling you right now that I really
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: told me you had buzz. There's no buzz going on
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: about you playing in the D one Bowl. I said,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: all right, that's all right, we're done. I said, hey,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: we're done, Thanks for coming out.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I'll leave. He calls with, what you disrespect my friend?
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Like that?
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: I'm like, will he told me I wasn't gonna go
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: to D one Bowl. He said, I wasn't gonna get drafted. Like,
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: if you don't, if he don't believe in me, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: don't believe in.
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: Him, why would he talk to you if he doesn't
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: think you're gonna go any like?
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: That's what I said that he told me I wasn't
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: gonna get drafted. He said, I'm probably gonna fall as
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: a free agent, and I wasn't, And there's no buzz
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: about me going to the D one Bow. So I said, okay,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: thank you. I said thank you. That's all I needed
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: to hear. He was the only agent that kind of
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: came o. I'm nervous to hear how this ends.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So then I really get at me.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: Boom boom boom. I go, I go to Vincent's hotel.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: I'm like, we're the paperwork. I'm about to sign with
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: you today, like I'm done with this ship. He's like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: what happened. I'm like, it don't even matter. You know
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, It don't matter. Let's go.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: So I signed with him. He leaves. I tell Coach
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: H first, I go with Coach H. I signed with Vincent.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: He goes, I like Vincent because I even had Coach
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: H meet him and he was like, I like Vincent.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Vincent was a good guy. So then he goes, you
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: need to tell Willie though, I go, man, I'm scared
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to tell.
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, freaking out.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: I was scared, just like the phone like he was like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: don't call him, go to his office.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, god, I'm scared.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was shook. I was shoot because after what
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: I did to his friend too.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking shook. So I'm like, long story show.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I'm doing it. I don't care, man,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: it is, I'm a singer.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I'm done. Like, I go up in there, he waiting,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: come on.
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: You wearing the purple there, look the boy with Sweatnson
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: like this.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I come through the door. He's like, god, I'm sweating.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Go in confident as soon as he does that, I'm like, damn,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: he just he rips me a new one, like how
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: disrespectful am I to do?
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: His friend like that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I brought you here, I'll put you in this situation,
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: and now you're about to sign with this guy. I'm
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: telling you right now, this dude is gonna end. He's
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: gonna mess up your career. I'm like, yes, sir, I
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: hear you, like I always respect never I'm like, yes, sir, yes, sir,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: You're right. That's something I'm gonna have to deal with
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: if it happens. Like okay, well I'm telling you. He's like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: you better not leave school. You better finish. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna finish. So after that conversation, I go back
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: to the house and I'm telling all my roommates like, man,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: he just like I need to finish this and that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: But Vince was already telling me he about to fly
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: me to Houston and start training. So I was like,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: I don't even know how to say this, and they
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: was like you should just go to Houston. Like all
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: my roommates like, fuck, don't even tell Willie, like lead
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: so if you see this.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: So then Vince was like.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: With how you feel you want to finish school or
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: you want to go train, because like I feel like
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: you need to train. You about to play against D
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: one players, and I'm like, I'd rather go train. So
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: then I moved to Houston and uh start training at
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Pleux for eight months and yeah, yeah, I was living
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: in Houston, not going to school. I was just training
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: and uh they sent my mom a bill Central Missouri
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: State then, but they took it back though after after
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: my agent and they lawyers got they took that ship back.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: But they sent my mom a bill. My mom got
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: a bill for like three hundred some thousand. Like, what
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: is this? Holy shit, I'm like, what you mean. She's like,
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: Central Missouri just sent me a bill for three hundred thousand.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I said, I went to school for free. She said,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: I know what is this bill. I'm like, hold on,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: send it to me. I got my agent Vincent on it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: He's like, oh, hell no, that's not about to happen.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: And uh, they they pulled it back, said it was
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: a mistake. They made a mistake. That wasn't supposed to
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: being sent out to them. It was supposed to be
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: picked up by the administration. They was gonna pay for
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: but somehow that got sent to my mom, and uh,
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: that pissed me off.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna lie. That pissed me off.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: And uh, for the first few years, I ain't say
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: even since I wouldn't say Central even on Monday night games,
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't even be like, oh, Central Missouri State Mules
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: like I would never I was just like put on
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: the high school, you know, because that's that I feel
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: like they did me wrong. But again, you know, like
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I did them wrong, like it was vice versas, Like
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: he told me to stay in school and I did
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: it right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I needed to train though, like I was training with
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: all D one players once I went to Plex. I
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: was around all these top athletes and almost keeping up
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: with them. So I'm like getting confident, like, oh this
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: ain't this, ain't this, ain't nothing. I'm about to I'm
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: about to shine, you know what I mean. So then
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: I play in that D one Bowl game. Guess who
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: the head coach, Jim Horball. Yeah so man, so Jim
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Harball the head coach.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: He loves me. He like you do everything. I was
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: doing everything.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: With him, and he was just like, dude, you you
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: should get drafted, Like he would tell me that, like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: you can play multiple positions. They had me at running back,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: tight end, receiver, all that, and uh so then I
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: go to the Combine. I got invited to the Combine
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: after that Bowl because I put on a play.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: They was like, who the hell was.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Just Dlayney Walker coming out of nowhere making catches, making plays.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I get invited to the Combine.
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: What's the feeling like when you finally get that invite
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: and you're like, all the ship you've gone through, whether
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: it's self inflicted or like battling with coaches, and just
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: like the university, what's that feeling where you're just like, like.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I have an opportunity to go to the show.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: No, it was like better than sex, you know what
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: I'm saying that, Yeah, it was like because you know
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: that that feeling that sex is.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: The best feeling in the world.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: But this this feeling that I got knowing that because
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: my Vince would say, you put into work, it's gonna
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: all come to you.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Because when he I'll be like.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Man, I don't want to go to Houston and train,
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Like trust me, you put in the work, it's gonna come.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: And I remember when he hit me like, there you
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: going to the com I look, I'm getting goose bump
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: on my legs already, Like I'm like what, he like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: you made it?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I like, I'm tearing up, you know what I'm saying.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: I'm on the phone tearing up, like I can't believe it, man,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: I can't believe it was right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: He's like, no, it was all you. It wasn't me.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I ain't do nothing. You did that.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: And I just just chill like I'm like, God, damn,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: I fucking made it, you know what I'm saying.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I'm crying. I'm telling myself like I made it. And
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: then I called my mom like Mom, I'm going to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the comba, I'm be on TV. She's like, what you go?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: You made it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I made it. I'm gonna I'm gonna. This
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: is my opportunity. I'm gonna take advantage. I'm getting drafted.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: And I just kept saying it like I'm getting drafted.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: This is they put me in. Yeah, they put me in.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: They made a mistake.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Now I gotta show up and uh, the journey just
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: you know, the journey taught. It came, you know it came,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: and I've rolled that thing. Boy, I rolled that that
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: mustang like, I ain't letting go. You know what I'm saying.
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: When you went to the combins a receiver at this time? Yes,
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: and so what point did you transition receiver to tight end?
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: Was that a couple years into the league or was
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: that right when you went to forty nine ers?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You know what, I'm glad you said that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: So, like when I got to the combine, we had
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: a trainer named Danny Arnold. Danny Arnold at the time
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: was one of the best trainers in football. He goes,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: you may be a receiver, but I think you may
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: play tight end.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: How big are you at this time two twenty so
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: like six?
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: And he goes, I think they may put you at
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: tight end. I go, man, why you think that? He like,
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: I just hear it's a lot of noise about you
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: playing tight end. So he was putting me through the
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: ringer of like working out. By the time I get
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: to the combine, I'm two thirty five.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Pounds.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah I'm in there.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: Because he was like, you could either be a David Boston.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Are you going to be a tight end? That's what
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: he used to call me all the time, David Boston.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: You David Boston used to say that, David Boston.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't take stare with David Boston. Yea,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I don't do that. But uh so he was saying that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: And then I get drafted as a receiver with the
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers because it was all through. They told
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: me it was all because of my forty times. My
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: forty time was good, so they drafted me. It was
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: at forty time, full four to seven or full forty
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: nine type shit.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yet Rick mitch.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: So and then I get to the forty nine Ers.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: We two three weeks and I'm playing receiver. I'm wearing
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: number seventeen.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: We had Mike.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Martz as an offensive coordinator, and I was with Mike
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Nolan as.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: A head seventeen. Yeah, I was wearing seventeen, seventeen to
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: forty six.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so seventeen right, and then I call in
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: the locker room, I come in.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Oh so I go home. We come in the next day.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: I used to get there early because they wanted me
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: to do a workout and stuff early, you know, rookies.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Got I get there and I'm like, damn, they move
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: my jersey, they move my locker because I see forty six,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: and I'm.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Like, damn.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: They move my locker and they're like, no, no, no,
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: you you forty six. You need to get your playbook
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: and go see Mike Bartz. I'm like, for what, I'm
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: getting cut. They're like, no, no, you're not getting cut.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Go just go talk to them. So I go up there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: He's like, I know you saw the jersey. I was like, yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: I don't really like that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: Numbers go from seventeen forty six.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: That's like, it's like, I'm getting cut.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I got about one more week.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I'm getting cut, Like that's all.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: I was thinking, You're right, man, I'm sorry, finished school.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So saying there, I'm like Jesus Christ, I said,
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I don't really like that number. Like I literally because
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking he was cool, like Mart's was cool, but
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: he wasn't cool right now. He's like I don't give
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: a fuck. I was like, oh damn shit, Oh we're
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: not cool right now. He's like, no, we're moving you
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: to tight end the h back. You ever heard of it?
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: I said, nah, I never heard him. He said, well
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: you better learn we're gonna cut your ass, all right,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: go fuck forty six of this just like that cold.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, oh, you're not joking, okay, like cause
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: he was joking. He's joke a lot when I first
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: got there, but now he's not even said So as
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: soon as I get in, I get on the phone, Man,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I'm about to get cut. You gotta start looking for
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: another team. He like, what do you mean? I say,
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: they just moved me to tight end. He goes, okay,
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: I can't play tight and he said, d I ain't
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: never seen you fold for anything.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You're gonna fold today.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Over a number, well over a position change. I said, man,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I never played the position.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I said.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: They got Vernon Davis like, you have seen this guy?
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: He like six three, two hundred seventy pounds.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Like I can't.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: I can't do what he's doing. He was like, I
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: never seen you quit on anything. Showed me show them
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: who the fuck you are. I said, you know what, Vince,
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: You're right. I'm gonna go out there. I gonna be
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: the best non blocking tight end I can be, because
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: that's I.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Didn't know how to block. Right.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: So I get out there, I'm getting cussed out like
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: a doll bro. I'm missing every playoff step all. Oh yeah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: stepping the wrong way. One game they put me in
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: a game. I can't even believe it. Right, they put
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: me in the game that year for my rookie year
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: as a lead blocker. I go the wrong way. You
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: hear Frank gord Man, what do you you do? He's
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: getting the ball because I ran the wrong way. Frank
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Gore screaming at me during the play because I'm going
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: that way. I was supposed to go that way. Because
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I ain't know what the hell I had. They threw
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: me in a game. I don't even think I practiced
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: this play one time. I'm like, what you didn't want
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: to You didn't want to ask?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Where do I go? Nah? Nah?
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Jim Harball said, who's got it better than us? Whoever?
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Delaney's supposed to be blocking?
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: But uh was har about the head coach your rookie year?
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: No, No, it was Mike Nolan was the head coach
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: by rookie year. Mike Marts was the offense coordinated And
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know why they threw me in on the
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: offensive play because I only played special teams really, and
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: for some reason, they was like I was standing there,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Uh to Pete Pete Pete Hayner was my coach position. Coach,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: he go, you win.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like me, I'm literally like me. He like, get
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the hell in there. I'm like, oh running, I'm like,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I hear the play, I'm like, oh ship.
• 45:39
  Speaker 8: Let's scary ship. Ever, bro, the whole stadium is just
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: so loud, and.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Then it's gonna be it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: No idea.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: I feel you no idea too. You're like, I don't
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: want to be that guy.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to be that guy just getting to
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: play the first time at least no it was Alex Smith.
• 45:57
  Speaker 11: And then you have a legend like Frank Gorele just
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: like yelling at you midplay.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh ship. Like so I go to the right,
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: which I was already messed up. I was supposed to
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: go to the left and motion to the right, but
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: I went to the right, motion.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: To the left.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: He probably he probably when he saw me on that side,
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: he probably like, Okay, the clock must be down blindy
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: over there.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: But once I motioned, I hear him go. I hear
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: him say something like that. I look back at the ball.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't block nobody neither, because it wasn't nobody to block.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: This might be easier than he thought. He was getting
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: the ball.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I kind of ran my hands up. They're like, why
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the fuck you is throwing your hands up?
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: You ran the road, they pull you pulled me out.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: That the only place the whole time, that whole game.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: You're forty six, you're forty seven.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I'm getting cut. I'm gonna get
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: cut after this game. They but I remember my tight
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: end coach that you lucky, you a hell of a
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: special teams player, because they I was telling them to
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: get rid of you, like.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Even in your year.
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: Do you think that, uh Fritz, like all that bullshit
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: that you had to like endure through college and him
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: like frying you in front of the team like almost
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: set you up for success, Like because like every.
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: NFL coach is gonna dog cuss you if you mess up.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: So like in a way, did it ever kind of
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: be like damn, like maybe like he was a great
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: coach for me.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: No, he was a great coach for he was on
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: some NFL shit.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: He normalized me from being like bothered by getting cussed
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: the fuck out, like because at first I used to
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: get mad when he cussed me out, but then they
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: started to just be like, Okay, it's normal, he's just
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: cussing me out. So then when they got to the
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: NFL and the coach cussed me out, I just be like,
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: well he cussing me out, it's a good thing, you
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: That's what I started.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Thinking, like, well, he want me here because he cussing
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: me out. Like if I can't put you in the
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: game because you don't know what you like, they would
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: they will always say that, like my first year, we
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: can't put you in if you don't know what the
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: hell you doing. And I just spoke back one time like, man,
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: give me some reps, then you know what I'm saying,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: and that he was kind of like.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: You want reps? All right, We're gonna get you fucking reps.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: And that's that's how it started.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Who would you say was like your best, your most
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: influential role model?
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: I like coach Wise, p ain't. Oh my god, Painter
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: turned me into this dog I was not. I was
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: a receiver. I was a pussy foot receiver. I like,
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: I would break tackles and steff farm people, but I
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: would never go stick my head in there. Now I
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: will worry about getting my toes stepped on, like hurting
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: my hands. I was like a pretty boy receiver at
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: the time, and so becoming the tight end, I would
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: be blocking on my tippy toe. He'd be like, right,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: you're scared to get your feet stepped on, Like I'll
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: step on your feet right now, like stuff like that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell? And he just he would
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: just make us. He made us dogs like he He
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: just was like, we're gonna hit.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: We're hitting every day, so we'll come out hitting just
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: each other, just because he was like, y'all gonna be tough.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: One thing we gonna be is the tough his dudes
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: on this team. And Pete Hanter was that guy. He
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: taught me how to play the position. He taught me
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: how to be good at the position. He just was
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: a great coach.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: You talked about when you got drafted there and then
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: they moved you to tight end, Uh, like Vernon Davis
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: being there, and like, obviously we all know how tight
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: you were with Vernon, but is there any like vern
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: stories you can share that, like you're able to share that,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: it won't if you're like you said, man, Vernon was
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: like like that we was that was my dog, Like Honestly,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: people thought I was, like, it's homie.
• 49:36
  Speaker 12: They didn't think I played for the Titans like your
• 49:38
  Speaker 12: stories you tell us Vernon.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah so funny.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought like I was the homie because like
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: somebody tried to press Vernon. You know what I'm saying,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: I'll run over there and just start.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Fighting him, like you know what I'm saying.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Because my dog was like like Vernon will be like,
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: we'll play a game, say we just played at Candlestick,
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: and he'd be like, bro, you want to go to Vegas.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like like right now, like y'all got private jet,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: let's go.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Don't bring no clothes. I'm gonna buy him for you.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like, what, like, y'all, I'm gonna get all your
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: ship the word, let's go, and.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: We'll go to Vegas. Turn up, he get a big
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: old villa. You know what I'm saying. We packing that
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: thing out, I mean packing it out and uh clothes.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: My dog did a lot.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: You know, my dog would do all types of shit,
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: but a story, if I could tell a story, man,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: we didn't.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: We actually really didn't do that much out there.
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: We used to, like Vernon, you know, with his situation.
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: I never want to mess up what he got going
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: on with his fiance and stuff. So like all everything
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: we ever done was epic, you know what I mean?
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: It was we had fun with epic, like Vernon was.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Ben. Vernon was like, I know, I wasn't his brother.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: I can never take his brother's spot because him and
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Vante was like that too, But like at that point
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: we was like bros.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Like we did everything together. I mean everything.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: He gave you car, right to drive around and oh.
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he would let me drive his cars. But we
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: had a we had a white homeboy named Brandon. He
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: can probably see this because he follow our content and Brandon, Yeah,
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: and he gave he gave Brandon a hell Cat Challenger.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Just get hell yeah hell Cat Challenger, Like.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted it. I wanted that. I wanted that.
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: Car like he gave around with Vernon. You're like, damn,
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: Like I'm so glad, I'm tight end.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: Like yeah, you know, every time we went out to
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: like food, bottles whatever, he paid for it. So I
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: was like, damn, thankful, you know what I'm saying. Thankful
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: that I walked into this room with him. But the
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: first time I met Vernon, he didn't know how to
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: deal with me, because y'all know I'm kind of crazy,
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So, like, the first time
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: I meet Vernon, he shakes my hand, but he domned
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: there break my fucking fingers right, and I'm like, damn, cuz,
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: don't ever shake my hand like.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: That jokingly with him. He looked at me like what
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the hell. I'm like, no, I'll with you, big dog, like,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: don't hand But then I was like, yo, for.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Real, don't do that again, though, bro, Like because he
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: and he squeezed tho, I'm like.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: He's making sure you don't take a spot.
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, damn, bron, I'm like, don't squeeze my
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: heat like what I'm like, bro, I'm fucking with you,
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: but no, but don't ever do that ship again.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I mean that just kind of goes to show, like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: because he's he went to Maryland, but is he from
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: the East Coast? Yeah, he from DC, but it's just
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: like you being from LA and yeah, it's like that's
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: just the melting part of the NFL.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna get y'all story because I don't even care.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Fucking it is what it is. Okay, So Vernie used
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: to have.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: This is the one when you went to the gay party.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: Right, No, I have fun at that party. Uh uh No,
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: I wasn't with So Vernie used to.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: Have the Vernon David Weekend in DC. And I mean,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: like these these parties blowouts crazy.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: So like Vernie used to have, he would rent out
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: the whole hotel for all all the athletes, all the
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: friends and stuff, and and downstairs it will be like
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: fifty girls waiting in the lobby.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: But whoever. I mean, like.
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, this happened in like two thousand and eight,
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: y'all two thousand and nine, so even long ago, a
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: long time ago. And you know, you take a girl up.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: So we all had two rooms capacity sold out.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we all got two rooms. Go up.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: You take the one you've been chilling with all through
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: half the day, knock her down, go downstairs, find that
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: other one you've been talking to, take them upstairs.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, I ain't gonna care. I try.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I almost moved to DC. This was a trade. I'm like, hey, no,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Vernon, where should I get a house at?
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: He like, don't move here.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: I'm like you sure, like, don't do it because Vernon
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: weekends was the best weekends I've never seen. I've never
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: been a part of anything like that other than his weekends.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: And I'm talking about every year.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: Every year, cats walking butt ass naked in the hallways.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Not me, I.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: Don't get down like that, but some cats, do you
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: know I'm talking about you come out, they just walking
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: butt naked to the to the other room.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: You're like, what the.
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: No, Welcome to DC. Chocolate City?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Is that what they're calling it.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: That's what they call it, Chocolate City?
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: Like, we're kind of.
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: Like skipping ahead. But I mean, you have you have
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: such a long career. We have to we obviously have
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: to get a little Titans sock can. When you got
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: traded to the Titans, what was your initial thoughts.
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: I knew Chris Johnson, so when I got traded to
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: the Titans, I'm like, so, the only thing I remember
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: about Titans they came to San Francisco and beat our ass.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Chris Johnson, Yeah, Chris Jawnson went nuts.
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: And Randy Moss I don't even know, he had a
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: field day that game with Collins. Y'all had Collins that quarterback,
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: So I'm.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: Like'sure friend of the show.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, Okay, the Titans. I'm going to the Titans.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't care.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing about the record. And now I'm
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: like Chris Johnson, that's all. I was like, Like, they
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: got Chris Johnson, were about to be cold in the motherfucker.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: But then I got out.
• 56:00
  Speaker 8: Here, ken it was.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: It was it was munchack. So I got here and
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: and I realized it was the organized like it was
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: a lot going on that a lot of people don't
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: see because you're outside looking in.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: But it was the facilities going from San Francisco to Nashville.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Night and day.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, we didn't have a we didn't have a
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: cold plunge. They didn't have a hot tub.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: What year did you come to the Titans? Twenty thirteen?
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: So we were a team not to have a teen years.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: They didn't have none of that. They didn't The facilities were.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Like locker room, not even.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: A hot and it was they was making the food outside.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: We didn't even have a kitchen or they was bringing
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: it in. Yeah, it was it was wild. I was
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: eating McDonald's. I was eating McDonald's the first year. I'll
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: go to get McDonald's every day at lunch big Max
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: double cheeseburgers with Max sauce, no pickles.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: So like it was, it was. It was. It was bad,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: but they were they were growing and and that's.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Why our records showed the way it showed, because it
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: was just like, you know, mister Adams, he was you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: he was older, he was getting old. He was to
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: that point where you know, he he really didn't do
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: day to day activities with the football team. I didn't
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: even I only met him once, you know, when I
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: first got I only met him once. And this is
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: what he said when we met him at the game
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: we lost, I think to the Jaguars.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: He come in, he goes, if.
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: We had a quarterback, we would have won that game
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: with the quack with the quarterbacks sitting right there in
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: his face. I said, oh ship, I said, this owner crazy.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: He and then they they ran him up out of there,
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm And they got him, took him out,
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: and then people was like, man, you see now, you
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: know what I'm like.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was telling the truth. He was telling truth.
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: He made me seen now because he's saying stuff he
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: should be saying right in the player's face.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: But he was telling the truth though, you know what
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: You know how old people they can't say the truth.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: They just say the truth. It don't matter who it hurts.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: He just said it, and they was like, that's the owner.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I said, Okay, that's that's what's up. And you know,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: a few years later he passed away. But coming here,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I really didn't have no thought. I just knew that
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: it was a new opportunity for me to be good.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: And then we had Chris Johnson.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: Like in my mind, I'm like, with Chris Johnson, i
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: ain't got a block long, you know what I'm saying.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: So I was kind of thankful to have Chris Johnson
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: on our team. And obviously, you know it didn't work
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: out the first few years for us, but you know,
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: it started to develop.
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: I feel like for your personal career, just as like
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: a fan watching, like there has to be something say,
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: like it was huge for you because you became a
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: star in a low market city even though it wasn't
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: the forty nine ers, and playing with like all those
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: guys like you, you grew such a like name for
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: yourself and like to this day, they are lifelong Titans
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: fans that like are like if we could just have
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: a Delaney Walker still back playing and that's that says something,
• 59:22
  Speaker 7: which is I mean it fires me up, like sitting
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: here interviewing you when like I'm in the stadium in
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, coming home from like college
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: on like a random weekend, and I'm like, you know,
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, at least we got like a couple of
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: dogs that sh it's cool, and like sitting here, it's like, damn,
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: it's crazy.
• 59:39
  Speaker 10: So you got here in twenty thirteen, When did Marcus
• 59:42
  Speaker 10: get here? Twenty fifth, sixteen, fifteen fifteen, right after Taylor
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: got here.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, started stacking.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: We started stacking because you got to think about it,
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: Like Rusting was our GM at first. But Rustling was
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: so used to having nobody who went to the RAM
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: Why can't why is his name?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: He's a coach. He went to the Rams, Jeff Fisher,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Jeff Fisher.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: So they were so used to having, yeah, the Saint
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: Louis Rams, So they were so used to having Jeff
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: Fisher and his mindset.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Because Jeff Jeff Fisher was the.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: He was the mastermind of the Titians being successful. We
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: all can say that, like good coach, great coach. I'm
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: sure he was the one saying what players were going
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: to pick, because he's that kind of coach that's going
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: to control the narrative, right, But then you get munch
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: Check Rusting and then Wizn't Hunt Rusting. Like the picks
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: we were bringing in, you know, they were yeah, they
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: were taking you know what I mean, it wasn't It
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: didn't look good, you know, for the organization. And then
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: like we Rustling get fired, they hired y'all know who,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: y'all know who? The next gym was Robinson. I don't
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: know why they slipping my mind right now, So we
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: hired Robinson. Robinson comes in with this resume of like
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: knowing how to find talent, right, so he has Isn't
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: Hunt Mike Malarkey Mike right. If you look at those
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: three years, look at the draft picks we had, it
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: shows who was really in control of the draft picks
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: at that time because we were stinking it up. We
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: was bringing cats in and was like, why the hell
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: who is this dude? Like where did he come from?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: And then it went to Marcus Mariota, Dereck Henry, Taylor.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Taylor Lawan.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: I mean the list goes on of cats who was
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: putting in work on the team, and then just we
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: start getting better, you know what I'm saying. But now
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: we're having that log again where we're drafting cats.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: They ain't doing nothing.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Jack has the thousand yards stare going as you're as.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: I'm talking about, but you're thinking, you're saying right now,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 10: after that j Rob period, started doing that again.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: And start doing that. After the j Rob period, it
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: started doing that again. Was like, let's get.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Seat fillers instead of opportunists players. You know what I mean.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: These cats come in and be like, I'm here, I'm good,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: just happy to be I'm just.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Happy to be here, you know what I mean. I'm
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: happy to be here instead of those dogs. You know
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: what I mean?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: Because if you look at Jeff, Jeff was Robinson. Yeah,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: people kind of forget that. Yes, yeah, people forget that.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, that was Robinson. Like everything after Jeff.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in comparison he did Jeff and a j A.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Trade is truly the only thing that ruined him.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I know. That's what That's what got them fired. One
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: bad decision.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: Going back a little bit like when Marcus got there,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: obviously he was what number two pick behind Jamis.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: That first game against the Bucks.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: He went crazy, went crazy.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 10: Were you like, oh shit, like this is the dude
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 10: like Marcus.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Is for real?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, what was your relationship like with Marcus? I mean
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: obviously you were his only target for a very long.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Time when Marcus first got there. I love Marcus because
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: he was the type of player, like he don't say
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: much right, but he take the blame. He'll go out
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: there throw for three hundred some yards. We lose, it's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: his fault.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: I could have played better.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: I could have played better. I could have played better,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: but they didn't tell you. They didn't tell you. This
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: dude dropped five passes. That dude fumbled the ball, and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: it would be like a trickle effect. But it always
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: came back to Marcus because Marcus is going there like
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: it's my fault. If I would have threw for four
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: hundred yards, maybe we would have won.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: It was one pass I should have thought about. I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: shouldn't have thrown it, you know, and then he'd take
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: that blame. So I loved him because he never blamed nobody.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: He always was like, I gotta be better, you.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: And I looked at it as this is a guy
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: who's gonna die for you no matter what he can,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: and he know it's your fault, but he gonna go
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: in that room and go.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: That was my fault. It was a bad pass.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: If I would have put it on the money, he
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: probably would have called it. He always did that and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: I loved him for that. But he came into an
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: organization where they are hard on quarterbacks. They're really really
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: hard on quarterbacks because we had great ones played for
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: the Titans and the Oilers. So anytime that person, that
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: quarterback is not playing at that level that they feel
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: he should be playing, it always goes back. That's why
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: he's still on the stadium. That's why the players that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: people compare everyone to, they still on the stadium. But
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: all the other players not but those two players, right,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: and that you're gonna get compared to them every time.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: See Derek Henry, he held that stigma. So no one
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: ever said that, nothing about Derek being as good as George,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: because he was. But now, oh, we don't we need
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: an Eddie George, right, you know, we we need a mcnaire.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: But now, I mean, cam Ward is doing this, but
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: he has no help at all.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: So like we we.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: Put our quarterbacks in a blender because they get beat
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: the fuck up. Oh y'all have y'all seeing what I'll
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: see them and Joe Burrow running run for their life,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: taking injuries. They shouldn't be taking injuries. Look at the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: injuries Joe Burrow has tooken, Look at the injuries Marcus
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: has tooken, Ryan Tannehill, Will Levis, Will Levis. But we
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: and then they get they all played great, and then
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: they start getting beat up, beat up, and.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we gotta get rid of them. They suck.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: No, they good, they real good. It's just things around him.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: It is not playing to the same level. But I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: love Marcus Man. Yeah, I love Marcus. He was a dog.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: Ryan Tannehill was a dog. I mean, Jesus Christ. I
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: played with some good quarterbacks on the time. They may
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: not get that represent the recognition that they deserve, but
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: do some.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Running back.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah so, and the grand scheme of it all between
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: forty nine Ers and Titans. Can you pinpoint a singular
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: game that you're like, this was my favorite NFL game ever?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely can. It was the forty nine Ers
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: versus the Lions. We were four and one, the Lions
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: with five and oh. They had Mega Tronk and Matt Stafford.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: They had they had some dogs over there. I mean
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: dogs vanderbrush on. Oh my, he used to wear the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: red contact lands. That shit used to creep me out
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: all the time.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Yah, who was there? I wound blocked them like four times.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: It was home in four field.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: Home. It was a in four field. We five and one,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: they five and up. I mean they were four to one,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: they was five and oh. And it came down to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: the far I have ran a slant, they scored a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: winning touchdown. And that game I still talk about that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: because that game I was playing phenomenal. I mean I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: probably had like five special teams tackles. I wham sue
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: like five times, and we broke for big runs and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: then it came all down to me to score the touchdown.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: And and they never really threw me the ball For
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: them to trust me on that play, Yeah, it changed everything.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: It changed every day we went on the.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl run and I got you know, like I said,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: I was a free agent and got paid and that
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: all that that right there opened the door for me
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: because they trusted me. They start putting me on more plays,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: more things. But then Jim Harball did what he did
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: at the end of the game, and that was like,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: that's my dog, yeah, and.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: He chased him down.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Then he chased him down.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: We always about to rumble all the way into the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: locker room, the whole team, we all like squaring up.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: Holy's come like that. And and I won that game,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I always
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: anytime people talk him like, I mean, I done have
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 5: some hell of games with the Titans, but that was
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: probably the biggest.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: It took that next step, yeah.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: For me, you know what I mean, And for them
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: to trust me because like like I said, we had
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: Vernon Davis, Crabtree, Randy Mausss, Mario Manahan, Frank Gore.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, they ain't one of those dudes they could
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: have the ball.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 13: To you again, your relationship with Jim Harball when he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 13: became the coach the forty nine ers, you were already there, correct, Yes,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 13: that first time y'all saw each other after him being
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 13: your coach at that d One Bowl, or is it
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 13: just like, holy shit, look where we are now?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: He was like, I'm he was like when I saw
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: you was on the roster. I was like, we know,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: we got a player, that's all. He said, Like, we
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: know we got a player. He's like, I'll put this
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: mother everywhere, and he did. That's how I became the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: Swiss Army Knife because he sold these. He seems like
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: we got a plan for you.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: I said, oh yeah, I'm about to play more.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 11: What was it like when he like, because y'all obviously
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 11: weren't winning, so you had to make a coaching change,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 11: like when he came in, Like how instant did like
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 11: the mood in the locker room shift, like just in
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 11: the organization because I mean, y'all won like instantly when
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 11: he got there.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Well, so when Jim Harbo got there and the way
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: he made us work, people was mad because he came
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: on right after that lockout year. So we come back
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: in and we going to work. Cats was, yeah, we
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: gotta get this dude. I don't know about this dude.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: I don't know about this dude. Like Cats, that was
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: the the ring around the locker So it got back
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: to him somehow.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: You know, you always got a snitch in the locker room.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: That's just part of the game. That's anywhere you go.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: It gets back to him. He goes, we bring up practice.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, we just busted our ass at practice to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: this was a long, crazy practice. And he goes, we
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: have snakes on this team. Were like, what the hell
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: he just bringing up? Like we got snakes on this team.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: He's like, you know how you get rid of snakes?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: Cut the grass, Burn the grass. Damn, he said, burn
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: the grass.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: They said. He said about in a few weeks. That
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: person that made that's next to you right now, he
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: may not be next to you next week.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: And you'll know who.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: And we're like, oh shit. Every week, cut cut, bring
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: somebody in. Cut, bring somebody in, cut, bring somebody. He like,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: you see all the people that got cut, they wasn't
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: right for this team. But everybody who came here that
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: we brought in, they gonna put work on for this team.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: They may be starting. I don't give how much money
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: you make, who you are, where you get drafted at
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: the best player gonna play. I'm sitting there like, God, damn,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: thank god, God.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: It's my turn.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: There's nothing better than a good leader.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like thank God, because I'm busting my ass
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: and I'm not saying the field he comes in, It's
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: like I don't care who it is, and I remember
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: he was like you, but he made me work a lot.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: I had to learn everything the quarterbacks learned because I
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: was the audible shift guy, move guy. And I loved
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: it though, because he gave me a lot of responsibility.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: But a lot of dudes will tell you they hate
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: Jim Harball because he make us work, you know what
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like one time, remember back in the day,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: NFL was big on when we had real tour days.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: They were big on like taking players on like field trips,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: like you go to a water park, movies, theater or
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: something like that. So one day we're thinking we're about
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: to get a bone because he's like, man, y'all have
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: a good practice. I'm gonna give y'all bone. I'm gonna
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: get y'all good bone. Y'all gonna love this bone. Were like, ugh,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: a lot of bony going to bony going on, so like, well,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: like okay, and then uh, hell of a practice he
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: calls us up, man, that was one of the great practice. All,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: y'all gonna love this bone tomorrow. So we like all excited,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: like where we going? Everybody like where are we going, man,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: I think he gonna take us. He probably gonna take
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: us to some war reenacting and shit, you know what
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: I'm saying because that's where it came from. Yeah, I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: know that's what he big on too. So we get
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: there and uh we we had the dress of the day.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: He used to put it on the board, like the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: dress of the day. We're like, oh, shit, full pads.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: We're the bone at. We like we thought it was
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: gonna be like, no practice. It's say full pads. So
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: everybody talking.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Like full fucking pads. Where the bone at.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: They're like, oh, we're probably gonna practice like thirty forty minutes.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh yeah, that's cool. That's even cool. We
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: get outside, he's like, hey, bring it up because usually
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: we stretch. So Jim Harball, let you stretch on your
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: own for fifteen minutes. And then he blowed the whistle
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: and we start practice. So he we ain't straight. He
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: just blow us up.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: We're like, oh, yeah, he tricked us cause he liked that, Like.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, y'all go change No he go, uh he go,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: you wanted I want to tell y'all something? We go, yeah,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: he go seattle right now at the water park. They
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: go Arizona right now.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: They did. They had like a softball baseball game.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: And he still be there.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he going through all the all our teams in
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: our comf in our division.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: We go, but you know what the forty nine ers
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: are gonna do. We're like, what coach? We all excited
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: when we coach coach, Yeah, what we're gonna go for? Yeah,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: he like, we're gonna get these seventy plays. Let's go.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: Morale just killed. I don't work anymore.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 5: Coach like that crazy. That may have been the worst
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: practice we ever, the worst.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did he ever take anywhere ever?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah he did. He took us. He took us somewhere.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: So after that, I think I want to say two practices.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: After that, he took us to the movies. We watched.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: What was it? It was an army movie.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: At that time, maybe like Saving Private Ryan. It could be.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, fury, No, was it thirty nights,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: thirty days? What was it?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 14: Thirty zero dark thirty? Yeah, we see zero dark thirty.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 14: Because he was really big into the military. We even
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 14: had the president general like military dude come and speak
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 14: to us.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Yo, like he was big on that, so like.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: We went and watched the Army movie and then that
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: that message was like, you see how they never gave
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: up when they backs was against the wall, they kept
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: fighting because.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 12: We got seventy more plays. After the movie, pet your
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 12: pads on, He's like, you see how they never gave up.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 12: He's like, We're gonna beat those guys because I know
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 12: we're gonna be down in the first quarter, We're gonna
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 12: be down in the second quarter, but who the hell
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 12: we're gonna be in the third quarter, and how will
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 12: we finish the fourth quarter? I'm like, god da, I'm
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 12: talking about like yeah, and if you watch all our games,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 12: we we losing in the first half, and then the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 12: second half we come back.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: We was the comeback kids. Everybody knew that we come
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: back and just beat their ass. We just out physical youth.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: And he knew that. I guess he felt it. So
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: he wanted us to see, like when they was down
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: and they look and they thought you all thought they
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: was gonna die because it was just too many afees
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: coming after room every angle, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: But they locked and loaded. They got they they they
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: they they got their game plan and they just look,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 5: we're gonna die doing it. We either gonna die killing them.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: Are we gonna walk away from this? You know what
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: I'm saying.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we died.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: We died, and that's really what they did. They went
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: out there. It's like, look, let's get it. So we
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: all had that mard set and we was all on
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 5: the pill program you know, talk about that later. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: so we were dogs.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're getting Yeah, our batteries Runner loaded our audience,
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  Speaker 1: so we got it.
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  Speaker 7: How long have been going?
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  Speaker 4: Our ten? Question our sixteen?
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  Speaker 8: It feels like you've been going for a minute.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, bro, this has been We really appreciate you coming
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  Speaker 7: on one. And even though we've heard a lot of
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  Speaker 7: these stories over and over, I feel like I heard
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  Speaker 7: a new piece and every one of those stories where
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  Speaker 7: I was like, damn, there's so much more to every
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  Speaker 7: like story that for just for anyone's sake, but man,
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  Speaker 7: it means a lot.
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  Speaker 8: Like you are a guy.
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  Speaker 7: You've all showed so much love to us. So it's
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  Speaker 7: sick that you are the number twentieth episode guest. And uh, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, I'm sure we'll have you back on.
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  Speaker 3: We've only ever had for pro athlete guests We've only
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  Speaker 3: ever had Titan Era tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: Tight ends from the Niners.
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  Speaker 2: True, true, No, you had Grounk, didn't you. Yeah, Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: we had George and you. I thought that had I
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  Speaker 2: saw George. I thought you had Gronk for sure, though happened.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get Vern too. Oh yeah, yeah, no, Vern, definitely Vern.
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  Speaker 5: Verne would love to come on here because he wanted
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  Speaker 5: to get inside of the story.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I gotta get my side of the story. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, for.
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  Speaker 4: Good deal.
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  Speaker 7: Damn, you're trying to sign us off, Coop, I gotta.
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  Speaker 3: Do this off.
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  Speaker 2: I brought us in.
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  Speaker 11: Jeffy signed us off.
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  Speaker 4: I did that last week, Garrett, sign us off.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you all for listening to another episode of Inside
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  Speaker 10: the Bus, episode twenty with our guy Delaney Walker. Go
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  Speaker 10: show some love, hit the comments, tell us who you
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  Speaker 10: want us to have next. You know, we appreciate you
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  Speaker 10: guys tuning in. Help us blow this thing up until
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  Speaker 10: next time, he pace