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Starting pitchers Chris Bassitt and Trevor Rogers join @Orioles camp · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Joined now by Chris Bassett, the barefooted Chris Bassett. By
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Speaker 1: the way, he is brave crats because there is an
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Speaker 1: oak tree right behind me. Luckily for him, there's no
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Speaker 1: acorns on the ground because I don't know if you ever.
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Speaker 2: Stepped on like a lego piece.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it would feel like if you were
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Speaker 1: barefooted and step on an acorn.
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Speaker 3: I got two kids, so I know all about that.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, barefoot definitely is. Ah, it comes with a
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Speaker 3: lot of risk.
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Speaker 4: But I don't do it for grounding. I do it
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Speaker 4: for laziness.
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Speaker 2: Oh ok, we you know, have you ever seen Bull Durham?
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Speaker 1: No, of course, of course Bull dir Quinn Peat tells
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Speaker 1: Nuke you got to you gotta have clean shower shoes.
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Speaker 2: We can't get shower shoes.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 5: I just.
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Speaker 3: It's just packing up an extra thing, and my mind
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Speaker 3: is like, you know, what one left thing I gotta
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Speaker 3: worry about.
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Speaker 4: I'm good.
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Speaker 1: So but the equipment guy has to give you a
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Speaker 1: pair of lesson I get it tired. You know, twenty
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Speaker 1: dollars Nike, Adidas, whatever, New Balance, whatever, whatever you want
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Speaker 1: to wear, they'll give them to you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even have to pay for him. It's
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Speaker 2: a big league. They'll give them to you for free.
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Speaker 3: Honna say, Shureser tried to get this out of me
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Speaker 3: and it didn't work.
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Speaker 1: And barefooted, yeahur barefooted. Yeah, his his new shower barefoot.
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Speaker 3: His extremes to get me to wear shower shoes were
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Speaker 3: a little out of control, but they still didn't work. So, yeah,
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Speaker 3: you don't wear shower shoes to show It was just laziness.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fantastic. Hey, I washed my feet.
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Speaker 3: We're good.
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Speaker 1: Hey, we're good. You know what happens in the crauch.
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Speaker 1: You tell him what happens in the shower.
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Speaker 4: I know, I know, trust me, I know what happens.
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Speaker 3: We're good.
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Speaker 6: I feel like I feel like you've been told this
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Speaker 6: plenty of times. I feel like I feel like, just
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Speaker 6: one thing. What's one other thing that you're you're you're
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Speaker 6: lazy about? If you're not going to put on sandals
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Speaker 6: to walk around, what's another thing that you're like? I
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Speaker 6: get it, I should do this, but I don't.
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Speaker 3: How how pg you were supposed to go here? I mean,
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Speaker 3: let's not go like I'm saying, like underwear, that's fine.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't wear underwear.
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Speaker 2: See, that's t M.
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Speaker 3: I that's not un but that's like ever like you pitch, oh, pitch,
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Speaker 3: you gotta wear sliders and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Different. Yeah overall, I say, because especially in the Orioles
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Speaker 2: all white.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that could be.
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Speaker 2: That could give me a problem.
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Speaker 1: Not we're not there, okay, but so no, you just
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Speaker 1: don't like undergarments.
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Speaker 2: You don't like I don't like.
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Speaker 3: Clothes I don't wear. Now you're just saying I'm a
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Speaker 3: nudist by any means. But at the same time, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there and I'm like, just one last thing
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Speaker 3: I gotta worry about.
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Speaker 1: Do you introduce yourself to your teammates is Hi, I'm
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Speaker 1: Chris Bassetting, I'm a nudist and I don't wear shower shoes.
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Speaker 4: I think it's very evident really quickly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're good.
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Speaker 2: Does anyone question you on it?
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Speaker 6: Uh?
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Speaker 3: I would say a lot of people did in the past,
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Speaker 3: but luckily this team is a little too young to question.
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Speaker 3: So there's like, this guy's just weird. He knows because
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Speaker 3: of New York. This has been going on for a while.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just yeah, okay, how are the Orioles
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Speaker 3: eight unbelievable? I mean, obviously the WBC is happening, so
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Speaker 3: root for Team USA, but get Gunner back and things
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Speaker 3: like that. So the only negative thing about the WC
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Speaker 3: is just you don't have your full team here. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's just an unbelievable group of guys that I feel like,
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Speaker 3: really care for each other. Reminds me a lot of
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Speaker 3: like the other teams that I was on, and so
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Speaker 3: I'm really really excited about this year.
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Speaker 1: How do you go about learning a new catcher because
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Speaker 1: you have ad Lie and Basaio, but you don't really
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Speaker 1: use a catcher because you use the PitchCom and then
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Speaker 1: you take yourself off on the PitchCom you hit the
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Speaker 1: button and you're like no, no, no, okay, let's go
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Speaker 1: back to that one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have to learn a new catcher?
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Speaker 4: I definitely.
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Speaker 3: I really want to get to a point where I'm
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Speaker 3: not calling many pitches. I mean, say I'm calling like,
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Speaker 3: say one hundred pitches, say I'm calling thirty percent of
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Speaker 3: the pitches.
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Speaker 4: I would really like to get to that point.
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Speaker 3: But overall, I would say, it's it's it's it's not
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Speaker 3: that difficult. It's more so kind of what's their what's
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Speaker 3: their strengths, what's their weaknesses? And then kind of how
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Speaker 3: come we can I exploit hitters with their strengths and
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Speaker 3: weakness so to speak.
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Speaker 6: Is it hard for the catcher to get used to you?
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Speaker 6: Because before, before the pitch com you would shake, and
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Speaker 6: I watched interviews about your feel Sometimes you're just like no,
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Speaker 6: and then you get back to it and you're like, yes,
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Speaker 6: is it hard for a catcher? Have you heard catchers
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Speaker 6: say it's hard to get used to catching you?
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Speaker 3: I would say when I when I was back in
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Speaker 3: the day, when I had to shake, it was hard
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Speaker 3: to understand me just because I felt like, for the
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Speaker 3: most part back in the day, it was it was
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Speaker 3: so obvious what what I should have thrown, whether it
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Speaker 3: be say a fastball in this spot spot or curveball,
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Speaker 3: whatever it may be. So I shook it right away,
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Speaker 3: even though that was the pitch that I wanted, just
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Speaker 3: because I was like, I kind of want to throw
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Speaker 3: the hitter down a rabbit hole, so to speak. And
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Speaker 3: I knew it pissed a lot of those guys off,
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Speaker 3: like I I knew, especially the older veteran guys, they
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Speaker 3: were like, bro, come on, like, hurry this game up.
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Speaker 3: Why are you shaking so much? I'm stepping out now.
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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna shake six more times?
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 3: Me and Sean Murphy back in the day with Oakland
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Speaker 3: had a lot of laughs about it because he was like,
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Speaker 3: I just called twelve different pitches, so to speak, in locations,
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Speaker 3: and you went back to the very first one. I called, like,
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Speaker 3: what are you doing? And I was like, I just
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Speaker 3: felt it was too obvious that it was the right pitch.
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Speaker 3: But it was too obvious at the time, so I
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Speaker 3: kind of wanted to stir the pot, so to.
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Speaker 4: Speak, in their head and then just get back to it.
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Speaker 3: So I would say, with the pitch calm, it's a
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Speaker 3: lot easier just because I don't really need this disguise much.
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Speaker 1: Could you survive with the pitch calm and the pitch
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Speaker 1: clock if the pitch sorry, if you had the pitch
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Speaker 1: clock but no pitch calm, you couldn't do that.
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Speaker 3: It'd be really tough.
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Speaker 2: We would have to you have to do like the
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Speaker 2: Greg Maddox.
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Speaker 3: That or we'd I mean, we'd have to do we
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Speaker 3: y'all are already do an insane amount of homework when
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Speaker 3: it comes to all the analyst stuff. But we'd have
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Speaker 3: to be really really on the same page, which I
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Speaker 3: just I have all the time in the world, so
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Speaker 3: I like doing it. I like diving into the numbers,
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Speaker 3: and I like diving into all the nuances of pitching.
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Speaker 3: But catcher's got to do every single day, so it's
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Speaker 3: just tough. I to me, I always think that I
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Speaker 3: know the hitter better than the catcher. I'm not saying
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Speaker 3: that negatively to the catcher. I just have a lot
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Speaker 3: more time. I have five days.
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Speaker 2: You know you have two catchers on the show, right.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, But I'm saying the reality is, I
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Speaker 3: know the way I feel going into the game. I understand.
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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not that confident in my fastball. I'm
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Speaker 3: not that confident landing a curveball, or I'm not I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't like how my cutter was that week. So
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Speaker 3: I know all those things going into it. You're gonna
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Speaker 3: have to learn those as the game goes on. Now
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Speaker 3: I can obviously go and talk to you about it,
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Speaker 3: but I just feel like I have a better feel
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Speaker 3: for what I'm feeling than you because I'm throwing the ball.
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Speaker 3: But overall, I'm I'm super excited about Adley and Sammy,
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Speaker 3: just because I feel like they're they're younger, but they're
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Speaker 3: they're really advanced of how they think. They're really advanced
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Speaker 6: What superpower or skill would be better being able to
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Speaker 6: throw one hundred miles an hour like everybody wants to,
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Speaker 6: or being able to do exactly what you just said,
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Speaker 6: prepare outthink these guys, which one has more success for
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Speaker 6: the entirety of your thirty two starts?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I just I just think it's a lot easier
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Speaker 3: to be me than it is to be say scoobl
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Speaker 3: or schemes. So many guys, so many guys train and
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Speaker 3: try to be a Ferrari when they're not a Ferrari.
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Speaker 3: Like so many guys are chasing ninety seven ninety eight,
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Speaker 3: Like ninety seven matters anymore.
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Speaker 4: They're not hitting any spots.
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Speaker 3: Congratulations, you're throwing two to fast balls at ninety eight
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Speaker 3: miles an hour and you're two to Oh that is nothing.
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Speaker 3: You're missing spots. Guys really good at hitting fast balls
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Speaker 3: in and you can't throw a fast I mean you can't.
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Speaker 3: You can't throw a fastball away and you're just giving
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Speaker 3: up a bunch of damage because you can't hit spots.
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Speaker 4: But your stuff's really nasty.
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Speaker 3: So to me, I would always I always want the pitcher,
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Speaker 3: like the unicorns, like the Schoobls, the Skins and all
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Speaker 3: those guys. They have nasty, nasty stuff, but they are
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Speaker 3: one like I've seen I've seen them live, I've seen
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Speaker 3: their work behind the scenes. They're just they're just insane
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Speaker 3: pittures with nasty stuff, and that's what makes them cy
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Speaker 3: young guys. You see that with Saale, you see that
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Speaker 3: with like Wheeler. They're nasty, but they're pitching. The guys
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Speaker 3: that are throwers, ninety percent of them end up on
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Speaker 3: the eel and then everyone's wondering why the bullpen falls
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Speaker 3: apart and things like that. So I'm chasing the pitcher
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Speaker 3: all day long. So I would love to be like.
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Speaker 3: The reality is, I would love to be the Ferraris,
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Speaker 3: so to speak, but I'm not like. And the reality is,
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Speaker 3: also there's so many few guys in this game that are.
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Speaker 1: And so you're you, You're comfortable in your own skin,
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Speaker 1: for sure. You are and that's like ninety five percent
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Speaker 1: of the battle for sure, especially at the big league level.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you will.
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Speaker 1: You've got to be really comfortable and you know this
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Speaker 1: and being what you are, like whatever you are, be
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Speaker 1: awesome at it, and that you can survive with that.
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Speaker 3: And I said, the biggest reality to me is that, like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: this guy's average VELO is ninety four, we want to
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Speaker 3: get to ninety six. What is the difference? Like? And
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Speaker 3: I understand you can go with the nerd nerd side,
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Speaker 3: analytics side and say ninety six plays a lot better
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Speaker 3: than ninety four, but at what cost? Like are we
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Speaker 3: gonna go to ninety six and have better pitching? Are
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Speaker 3: we gonna go to ninety six and have say better
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Speaker 3: strike one percent percentages? Can they hit the spots? Odds
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Speaker 3: are when they're trying to increase below odds are odds
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Speaker 3: are not good? And the app not to make this
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Speaker 3: a long story, but like the biggest reality within our
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Speaker 3: industry is that these kids are already.
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Speaker 4: Coming in almost maxed out.
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Speaker 3: Like you see how they prepare in college, high school.
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Speaker 3: These kids are not coming in raw anymore. These kids
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Speaker 3: are coming in built like Olympians, and they're freaking sitting there,
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, you're twenty years old, Like you
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Speaker 3: look like you're twenty seven. So I just think you
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Speaker 3: have to refine the picture side not chary to get
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Speaker 3: more velo.
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Speaker 6: Did you hear this in free agency? Because to me,
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Speaker 6: you should have been a guy that came off the
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Speaker 6: board a lot sooner. To me, I thought it should
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Speaker 6: have been two years at least because of the durability,
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Speaker 6: because of what you've done in the past few years.
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Speaker 6: But did you hear all this stuff in free agency?
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Speaker 6: Like you know what your peripherals, you know, some of
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Speaker 6: these numbers don't necessarily fall into our equation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely like I would say, I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't say animosity is the right word, but I would
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Speaker 3: definitely say there's like some resentment when it comes to
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Speaker 3: like the industry, when it comes to me, because.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, I get I'm thirty seven.
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Speaker 3: I understand that, but the innings on my body are
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Speaker 3: not for a thirty seven year old. And then from
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Speaker 3: a durability standpoint, I'm more durable than most. And then
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Speaker 3: I win a lot of games. So it was like,
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Speaker 3: all right, this is pretty easy. But again, I'm thirty seven.
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Speaker 4: I get it. So it's the industry, it's.
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Speaker 3: Part of it. I'm not going to fight it. I'm
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Speaker 3: I've realized in the past, the more and more I
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Speaker 3: fight it, the more and more I get mad and
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Speaker 3: nothing happens from it. So I just was like, if
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Speaker 3: this is what it is, this is what it is.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you keep signing one year twenty ish million
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Speaker 1: dollar contracts, You're going to be just fine.
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Speaker 4: I'll be fine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you gotten over Game seven yet? No?
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Speaker 3: Hell no, I'm sorry. No, No, I'm sorry, Uh, definitely not.
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Speaker 3: It's I don't I said this. I think when I
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Speaker 3: show up to first to camp, I don't think. I
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Speaker 3: don't think that's something I'll ever get over.
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Speaker 2: I mean it was like, honestly this, I mean it
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Speaker 2: was like this far we had.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you just can take everyone can sit
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Speaker 3: there and say this, but you just take away one
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Speaker 3: pitch or one person just gets a sack fly or
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Speaker 3: one person gets to hit, we win the world.
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Speaker 2: You're blaming the hitters.
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Speaker 4: No, I said one take one to like.
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Speaker 3: Hit. Well, I'm saying, like as dumb as it is,
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Speaker 3: Like I I look at myself like and I sit
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Speaker 3: there and I'm like you, You're always like what could
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Speaker 3: I done? More like I could have not walked Mookie,
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Speaker 3: Like I gave a run because I walked the lead
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Speaker 3: off hitter. And that's like one of like the golden
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Speaker 3: rules of pitching, so to speak, is like, don't walk
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Speaker 3: the lead off hitter. The odds of them scoring are very,
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Speaker 3: very high. So I have a ton of like personal
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Speaker 3: like I wish I could have that back. I wish
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Speaker 3: I could just throw him a middle middle fastball and
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Speaker 3: if he hits a home run, he hits a home run.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just I'll never get over it.
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Speaker 2: I never lost the World Series.
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I'm no, it's I'm sure it sucks, no,
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Speaker 3: but I mean it's I get no, you got it
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Speaker 3: was one of the best series I've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: And then it leads to my next question. The Dodgers
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Speaker 1: bad for baseball, no, like, but there's every fan out there.
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Speaker 1: They're so terrible for the game.
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Speaker 3: But they're all there. There's always gonna be great teams, Like,
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Speaker 3: no matter no matter what we do, there's always gonna
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Speaker 3: be great teams.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna sit.
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Speaker 3: Here like I feel like everybody, how do I even
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Speaker 3: say this. I feel like everybody behind the scenes, like
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Speaker 3: as a casual fan, they they look at oh Tani
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Speaker 3: being great, Mookie being great, Freddie being great. They look
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Speaker 3: at all the guys they got, like Will Smiths, Max
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Speaker 3: Muntzi's why would we penalize the Dodgers for being good
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Speaker 3: at what they do? Like they just haven't missed, Like
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Speaker 3: there's so many teams that have went down this path
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Speaker 3: and they just have missed, Like they have missed on guys,
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Speaker 3: They have missed on paying guys, they missed on scouting
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Speaker 3: these types of hitters or pitchers. They come in and
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Speaker 3: are not who they think they were. The Dodgers for
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Speaker 3: what five six years, haven't missed like every single guy
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Speaker 3: they bring in. It's like, yeah, that makes sense. Like
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Speaker 3: they're really really good people and they're really good players.
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Speaker 3: So I mean everyone that I know over there, I've
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Speaker 3: fortunately unfortunately have a lot of friends over there. I
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Speaker 3: lost too. And they're like this is the best of
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Speaker 3: the best, like family set up, Like all the families
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Speaker 3: are treated like gold there, Like this is the best
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Speaker 3: of the best, Like clubhouse. When it comes to like
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Speaker 3: people in the clubhouse, how they mesh, how they love
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Speaker 3: each other, it's the best of the best. Like it's
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Speaker 3: not just like the talent in the room, it is
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Speaker 3: everything that surrounds the talent, Like they have everything, they
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Speaker 3: have every duck in a row. So, like, how am
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Speaker 3: I gonna be mad at an organization for being really,
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Speaker 3: really good? Now, obviously it's money. It's like there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of money that goes it's involved in it. But
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like, we got to
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Speaker 3: beat them, Like I'm not gonna sit here and try
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Speaker 3: to make excuses and say like, well we just can't win,
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Speaker 3: Like Noah, Like so I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
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Speaker 3: in that, Like we have to beat them. Like they're great.
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Speaker 3: They're a well oiled machine. They're great at what they do.
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Speaker 6: Do you hear other players say that? Because we constantly
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Speaker 6: this is a player driven show. We love hearing players
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Speaker 6: back or players objective thinking about all this. But like,
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Speaker 6: do you ever hear players say, man, we got no
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Speaker 6: shot against the Dodgers we're playing them in a series.
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Speaker 6: Have you ever heard an actual big lead player say that.
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Speaker 3: I think I've heard people say that, But it comes
16:43
Speaker 3: from like an organizational standpoint in the aspect of like
16:47
Speaker 3: our organization is not ran correctly. The Dodgers are ran
16:54
Speaker 3: almost falllessly, so we don't have much of a shot.
17:00
Speaker 3: But when it comes down to like actual baseball, like anybody.
17:05
Speaker 4: Can win it any time, like it don't matter.
17:08
Speaker 3: Like Milwaukee is the smallest market I think in in
17:13
Speaker 3: the country and they won the most games. So like
17:17
Speaker 3: the reality the reality is is like I mean, we
17:19
Speaker 3: just we just saw it literally last night, like Italy
17:22
Speaker 3: beat Team USA. To talk about that, yeah, I know,
17:25
Speaker 3: but any any team can win. It's just a matter
17:27
Speaker 3: of just like are you doing the right right things
17:31
Speaker 3: off the field? Are you do the right things on
17:32
Speaker 3: the field, are you taking care of families? Are you
17:34
Speaker 3: running the base the right way? Are you pitching the
17:35
Speaker 3: right way? And the Dodgers do almost all that good
17:39
Speaker 3: like so like I'm not I'm not gonna sit here
17:43
Speaker 3: and say we have no chance because they're the Dodgers.
17:46
Speaker 1: Okay, before I ask your last quares, you're ever seen
17:48
Speaker 1: a bug like that?
17:49
Speaker 2: A bug on my phone like things? Think that thing
17:51
Speaker 2: can bite me if I flick it off.
17:53
Speaker 4: I don't know that.
17:54
Speaker 3: Go fishing in that pond back? Had a boat back there.
17:57
Speaker 1: Probably, I mean a little boat back probably but one
18:00
Speaker 1: day we caught him and he had a hat and
18:02
Speaker 1: his whole thing, and he was I stopped him. I'm like, Craig,
18:04
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you for a second. So
18:06
Speaker 1: luckily he stopped. We interrupted.
18:08
Speaker 4: There's a lot of fish in there's not that great.
18:10
Speaker 2: I want to eat him. No, heck no, heck no.
18:13
Speaker 1: All right, you're you're heavily involved with the union. Correct,
18:16
Speaker 1: and just quick answer, how can we not have a
18:20
Speaker 1: labor stoppage.
18:23
Speaker 3: Let's let's start negotiating for real, right now? Why why
18:26
Speaker 3: don't they I don't know.
18:28
Speaker 2: Like, like is that well side though?
18:31
Speaker 1: Because I get so like I get I get angry
18:34
Speaker 1: about this, right because I get it. You get it
18:36
Speaker 1: from fans. I get it from people.
18:38
Speaker 2: I know. Oh you know we need a salary cap.
18:40
Speaker 2: We need it, right.
18:41
Speaker 1: And I always say, this is my line. I say,
18:43
Speaker 1: it's not a player versus owner fight. For me, it's
18:46
Speaker 1: an owner verus owner fight. They fight within themselves because
18:49
Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Dodgers are giving the Pirates and
18:52
Speaker 1: the Marlins all this money and they don't see the
18:53
Speaker 1: money going back into the players. So then everyone gets
18:57
Speaker 1: mad at the Yankees and the Dodgers because they're spending
18:59
Speaker 1: their that they've earned on the players, and then the
19:02
Speaker 1: other teams that are getting the money.
19:03
Speaker 2: Just seem to put in their pocket.
19:04
Speaker 5: Now.
19:05
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true, but why can't we
19:07
Speaker 1: start negotiating now? Why can't we get this done? It
19:09
Speaker 1: seems like it should be Baseball's on fire right now.
19:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing I mean, that's literally that I've
19:15
Speaker 3: talked to people behind the scenes. That's the thing that
19:18
Speaker 3: I would say that pisses me off the absolute most
19:22
Speaker 3: is like, for years we have fought to get growth
19:28
Speaker 3: in our game, and for years we fought to have
19:32
Speaker 3: the fans love this sport, do everything we possibly can,
19:36
Speaker 3: and then for this to possibly get in the way
19:39
Speaker 3: of it.
19:40
Speaker 4: Would be insane, it would be criminal.
19:43
Speaker 3: So, like I look at arbitration and how arbitration they
19:48
Speaker 3: wait till last twenty four hours to give you an
19:51
Speaker 3: actual offer. I wait till free agency, and they push
19:55
Speaker 3: it as long as they possibly can, and unfortunately, CBAS
20:01
Speaker 3: we don't see a real deal until.
20:04
Speaker 4: Until it's almost too late.
20:06
Speaker 3: Like I think if you pulled every single player, I
20:10
Speaker 3: think every single player would be like, we would love
20:13
Speaker 3: to have a deal done before the season's over, Like
20:16
Speaker 3: I would love to have a deal done before the
20:17
Speaker 3: season's over, not just because I don't want to not
20:20
Speaker 3: have an offseason kind of thing with the Union, but
20:23
Speaker 3: like the reality is is like the game is in
20:27
Speaker 3: such a great spot, Like the growth of the game
20:30
Speaker 3: is in such a great spot. Viewership is viewership's way up,
20:34
Speaker 3: a tendance is up, like how is it not working?
20:38
Speaker 3: Like how are we how are we gonna sit there
20:40
Speaker 3: and like say we need to change this. So yeah,
20:46
Speaker 3: just to me from a fan standpoint, I would hate
20:51
Speaker 3: it if we had a lockout where we were missing
20:53
Speaker 3: games and things like that. It would be it would
20:56
Speaker 3: be awful for me.
20:57
Speaker 1: Agreed, Well, Chris, good luck here Baltimore, thank you for
21:01
Speaker 1: joining us. Let's hope all these things get worked out.
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Speaker 1: Joining us now is Trevor Rodgers Orioles left handed starting pitcher,
22:14
Speaker 1: who had one of the greatest second halfs I think
22:19
Speaker 1: I've ever seen last year. What happened in the second half?
22:22
Speaker 1: What what maybe not what happened, but what changed for you?
22:25
Speaker 1: What did you figure.
22:26
Speaker 8: Out Yeah, that's a a good question. I think it's
22:30
Speaker 8: kind of a a lot of different things. We kind
22:33
Speaker 8: of make a long story short as they could try
22:35
Speaker 8: to get all these bugs out of my face. I
22:38
Speaker 8: think just a mental aspect of the game. I think
22:40
Speaker 8: this game is really good at humbling us. And I
22:43
Speaker 8: think I was so result oriented. I think I needed
22:47
Speaker 8: to kind of change my outlook on baseball and how
22:51
Speaker 8: I went about the game. And I started getting with
22:54
Speaker 8: the mental skills guy and really become process oriented, really
22:59
Speaker 8: built like a solid foundation, and I got to the
23:02
Speaker 8: point where you know, I didn't wasn't focused on the
23:05
Speaker 8: results at all, and and those those things kind.
23:08
Speaker 5: Of took care of itself. And obviously I got stronger
23:10
Speaker 5: with all.
23:10
Speaker 8: The injuries that I had, and it all just came
23:13
Speaker 8: together for a really good second half.
23:15
Speaker 2: What is what is?
23:17
Speaker 1: For people out there? It's people that don't know what?
23:21
Speaker 1: How does it start? With a mental skills coach? Do
23:24
Speaker 1: you start? I mean, I remember we used to have
23:26
Speaker 1: their guy named Harvey Dorfman who booked the Red Light
23:29
Speaker 1: Yell like used to hand it to us in the
23:31
Speaker 1: minor leagues and say, hey, read this, and you read
23:33
Speaker 1: and you're like Okay, when I get mad, it's a
23:35
Speaker 1: red light. I'm going good. It's a green line. When
23:37
Speaker 1: I get to yellow, I gotta take a step back.
23:39
Speaker 1: So what is a mental mental skills coaching today's game?
23:42
Speaker 1: Where do they start?
23:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, it starts with the red light and in the
23:47
Speaker 5: yellow light.
23:47
Speaker 8: And it's more of just giving you a bunch of
23:50
Speaker 8: different tools that you need and kind of throwing them
23:53
Speaker 8: against the wall to see which one sticks. And for
23:56
Speaker 8: me personally, it's you know, how I talk to myself
23:59
Speaker 8: on the mound, And I remember when I was rookie
24:03
Speaker 8: year and then in twenty twenty two, any little thing
24:07
Speaker 8: bad that happened, it was immediate negative self talk, just
24:10
Speaker 8: beat myself up for no reason. So the biggest thing
24:15
Speaker 8: for me was positive self talk and really just building
24:19
Speaker 8: that solid foundation each and every day.
24:22
Speaker 5: As soon as I walk.
24:22
Speaker 8: In the door, I know what I'm gonna do and
24:24
Speaker 8: I know what I want to accomplish each day.
24:27
Speaker 2: What does that sound like?
24:28
Speaker 6: What does yourself talk sound like?
24:32
Speaker 8: It's more of just you know, like I have a
24:34
Speaker 8: couple of mantras that I'm always telling myself, you know,
24:38
Speaker 8: a tax strike zone, one pitch at a time, and
24:42
Speaker 8: even when they get a hit, like, hey, you execute
24:45
Speaker 8: that pitch, you got a ground ball. That's all you
24:47
Speaker 8: can control. So just you know, think when things don't
24:49
Speaker 8: go my way. So those kind of positive affirmations that
24:54
Speaker 8: I tell myself to keep me on the right track.
24:56
Speaker 1: When you were on the bad side, you weren't like
24:57
Speaker 1: Tyler Phillips or you're like smacking this.
25:00
Speaker 5: Oh it was that.
25:01
Speaker 8: Never that battles, Never Ken Giles and punched myself in
25:04
Speaker 8: the face.
25:05
Speaker 5: So if I never.
25:05
Speaker 1: Did that, by the way, I can't say I haven't
25:07
Speaker 1: done it, because I have done that. Before you get
25:10
Speaker 1: about zero for fifteen, there's been a punch on my
25:12
Speaker 1: own way of the port, so I can't.
25:14
Speaker 2: I'm not making fun of them. I've been there.
25:15
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pitchers don't have bats that they can snap. We
25:19
Speaker 6: have bats that you can snap, and it makes it
25:21
Speaker 6: makes you feel a little bit better. Now you got me, now, Trevor,
25:26
Speaker 6: I got you know. Sorry, No, no, you're good, you're good.
25:29
Speaker 6: We got technical stuff. But I said, we have we
25:32
Speaker 6: had bats. We have hitters have bats. Pictures don't have bats.
25:36
Speaker 6: They can't really break their glove. It just it just
25:38
Speaker 6: bounces back. But you talked about last time you were
25:41
Speaker 6: on you talked about how you change you I'm not
25:44
Speaker 6: sure if you went to drive line tread or you
25:46
Speaker 6: went to one of those places and you you figured
25:50
Speaker 6: out different deficiencies that you have. After a really good
25:54
Speaker 6: season like you had last year, do you try to add,
25:58
Speaker 6: you know, well, if that that was good, what else
26:01
Speaker 6: can I do? What what's the next step? Or not
26:04
Speaker 6: saying it's complacent, but you're like, man, I did pretty
26:07
Speaker 6: freaking good. Like I'm just sticking just with that and
26:10
Speaker 6: we're good being right there.
26:13
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good question. I'd say it's a little
26:15
Speaker 8: bit of both. I think that's a mistake I made
26:19
Speaker 8: after my rookie year. I think you're like, hey, I
26:22
Speaker 8: had a great year. I don't really need to change anything.
26:25
Speaker 8: Let's continue to you know, build on what I did.
26:28
Speaker 8: I think that's something that I learned from, you know,
26:31
Speaker 8: last year going into this year, you know, I had
26:34
Speaker 8: a good second half, but looking at it from a
26:37
Speaker 8: full picture, it was only half a year. So the
26:41
Speaker 8: first half I was mainly in triple A. So that's
26:45
Speaker 8: really a big thing coming in to this year. Is
26:48
Speaker 8: you know, being consistent for a full season, Is you
26:50
Speaker 8: know something that I haven't been able to do for
26:53
Speaker 8: quite a few years. So something that's kind of you know,
26:57
Speaker 8: trying to check the box on that, and that you know,
27:00
Speaker 8: goes back to my routine, how I'm going about each day,
27:02
Speaker 8: and you know, as far as like mechanics, you know,
27:07
Speaker 8: clean up a couple of mechanical tweaks, sharpen up some
27:10
Speaker 8: you know, some of my pitches, some of my breaking balls,
27:13
Speaker 8: and kind of and go from there.
27:15
Speaker 1: How do you carry it over? How do you carry
27:17
Speaker 1: over what last year to an offseason because you're probably
27:20
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, like, man, I don't
27:21
Speaker 1: want this year to end. I just keep Can I
27:23
Speaker 1: just keep pitching everything? Can I go to winter Ball?
27:26
Speaker 1: Can I go wherever? And just keep pitching every fifth day?
27:28
Speaker 5: Right?
27:28
Speaker 4: Yeah?
27:29
Speaker 1: So how do you carry that over? Because again you
27:31
Speaker 1: just talked about tweaks and things like that. Is there
27:33
Speaker 1: a way to carry momentum over to the next year?
27:36
Speaker 5: I really think there is.
27:39
Speaker 8: And going back to my mental skills, guy, we've we've
27:41
Speaker 8: talked about, Hey, well.
27:42
Speaker 2: To give a ship, can you?
27:43
Speaker 5: Yeah?
27:43
Speaker 8: Zach Zach Swartz and he was with the Reds last
27:46
Speaker 8: year and he's kind of doing his own thing now.
27:48
Speaker 5: He's been great.
27:49
Speaker 8: Uh, he's helped me a lot, so he's probably one
27:51
Speaker 8: of the best of the game. So shout out to Zach.
27:54
Speaker 8: But we've we've been talking quite a bit in spring.
27:58
Speaker 8: It was like, Hey, what do we want this season
28:00
Speaker 8: look like? And I think we've both been on the
28:02
Speaker 8: same page as like, chasing numbers is poison. I don't
28:07
Speaker 8: I don't want to chase numbers, And to be honest,
28:10
Speaker 8: I don't even really want to chase what I did
28:11
Speaker 8: last year. The only thing I want to chase is
28:13
Speaker 8: the consistency of last year. I think every single baseball player,
28:18
Speaker 8: like y'all two included, like everything that we want in
28:21
Speaker 8: a career is just have consistency and know that what
28:25
Speaker 8: we're going to get and we can give our teammates
28:27
Speaker 8: every time we're out there we take the field. So
28:30
Speaker 8: that's the biggest thing for me this year is carry
28:32
Speaker 8: that momentum or that consistency into the into this year.
28:37
Speaker 6: How do you react or even the rest of your
28:39
Speaker 6: starting starting rotation mates react when you read something or
28:44
Speaker 6: hear that. The pitching, you know, they don't have quite
28:48
Speaker 6: enough pitching. They didn't do quite enough in the offseason.
28:51
Speaker 8: The Orioles, Yeah, I would probably disagree with that. I
28:57
Speaker 8: think we probably have the most underrated rotation in baseball.
29:01
Speaker 8: I mean, just look at those names right there. Bradish
29:05
Speaker 8: probably got some of the best stuff in all of baseball.
29:07
Speaker 8: Baskett with the run that he went on in the
29:10
Speaker 8: postseason last year, Baz is unbelievable. Fling can eat innings
29:15
Speaker 8: left and right. And Kramer he's you know, he's our bulldog.
29:18
Speaker 8: He can eat innings too. So we got one of
29:21
Speaker 8: the most underrated rotations in baseball, and just overall stuff
29:26
Speaker 8: and just overall commands. So the fact that I get to,
29:29
Speaker 8: you know, share a clubhouse with those five of the guys,
29:32
Speaker 8: it's it's gonna be special.
29:34
Speaker 1: That graphic Does that mean you're the opening day start?
29:36
Speaker 1: Is that the graphic we just ran with you at
29:38
Speaker 1: the top?
29:38
Speaker 2: Does that mean they're opening?
29:42
Speaker 5: That would be pretty cool. Huh.
29:43
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be pretty fun to,
29:46
Speaker 8: you know, compete with all those guys, and you know,
29:48
Speaker 8: we'll Yeah, when he when I talked to him, should
29:52
Speaker 8: I you've probably poked the bear a little bit?
29:54
Speaker 5: Okay?
29:55
Speaker 2: Would that be something you'd be into?
29:56
Speaker 8: It's definitely something that I want to, you know, what's
29:59
Speaker 8: my career's have one at least one opening day start
30:02
Speaker 8: you guys, you.
30:03
Speaker 2: Guys open with the Twins. They have a lot of
30:06
Speaker 2: lefties in their lineup. I don't know. It doesn't matter
30:08
Speaker 2: what neutral.
30:10
Speaker 5: Don't matter, don't matter, it don't matter. That's actually.
30:15
Speaker 2: What's the new guys?
30:15
Speaker 3: Like?
30:16
Speaker 1: Some of the new guys you brought Pete? Uh, some
30:19
Speaker 1: of the other guys that you've brought in? What is
30:22
Speaker 1: p And I'm sorry, I'm half asleep, but uh?
30:26
Speaker 2: Who else they bring?
30:27
Speaker 1: A cross? Jackie Bat that's smart. I can't talk about him.
30:33
Speaker 1: He thinks way too much. Peach Peach more on my level?
30:38
Speaker 1: What's that?
30:40
Speaker 3: Oh?
30:40
Speaker 6: Same bos too more?
30:44
Speaker 2: That was the one. Yeah, what are those guys like?
30:48
Speaker 8: They're just all great additions to our team, all like
30:52
Speaker 8: just great human beings. Peets you know, I think really
30:56
Speaker 8: adds that veteran presence to to our lineup. And he's
31:02
Speaker 8: great for us as a leader, even though he's been
31:04
Speaker 8: with us, you know, two months. He's just that veteran
31:07
Speaker 8: leader that this clubhouse needed. And Ward he's top not
31:12
Speaker 8: human being, puts his head down, goes about.
31:15
Speaker 2: His work the right way.
31:16
Speaker 5: And and Bassett he's he's one of the kind. He's
31:19
Speaker 5: he's a character through and through.
31:20
Speaker 8: But his knowledge of the game and how long he's
31:22
Speaker 8: been around, he's been huge for me personally and just
31:26
Speaker 8: the whole pitching staff and bass.
31:28
Speaker 3: Like.
31:28
Speaker 8: I've played in the PG All American Game back in
31:32
Speaker 8: sixteen with him, so it's cool to be around that
31:35
Speaker 8: guy again. And he probably has the most effortless ninety
31:38
Speaker 8: eight I've ever seen in my life. So he's top
31:42
Speaker 8: not human being, great teammate and I'm gonna just love
31:45
Speaker 8: watching him pitch every five six days.
31:47
Speaker 1: Just don't talk about because he shakes himself off sometimes, right.
31:53
Speaker 2: He's over there, He's like, no, no, no, I don't
31:56
Speaker 2: want that.
31:57
Speaker 5: No, I changed my mind exactly.
31:58
Speaker 8: It's a little bit tiring watching him do his thing
32:01
Speaker 8: out there sometimes, but it's it's also fun, all Right.
32:05
Speaker 6: What's more impressive Tyler O'Neil with his shirt off or
32:10
Speaker 6: Shane Bazz throwing a fastball at effortless ninety eight?
32:14
Speaker 8: Man, I would say Shane, but I'd say I'm a
32:18
Speaker 8: little bit more jealous of Tyler when he has his
32:20
Speaker 8: shirt off because I wish I had those types of guns.
32:22
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's it's seeing both of them. To be honest,
32:26
Speaker 8: it's pretty special.
32:27
Speaker 5: That's for sure.
32:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're a picture. You can't look like.
32:31
Speaker 8: That is Yeah, I mean, Michael Lorenzen is probably the
32:34
Speaker 8: closest thing to looking like.
32:36
Speaker 5: It was was pretty good. It was really good.
32:39
Speaker 8: I didn't like the result, but it was it was
32:41
Speaker 8: pretty good to watch room for him, right of course.
32:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, that's fair.
32:45
Speaker 8: What about Hellsley, oh Man, you talk about effortless, it's
32:51
Speaker 8: an effortless.
32:53
Speaker 5: Ninety nine to one hundred.
32:54
Speaker 8: And he's also a guy that, you know, great clubhouse guy.
32:58
Speaker 8: I think he's going to be another they're a really
33:00
Speaker 8: good leader, you know, for the bullpen. In fact, just
33:05
Speaker 8: with Batista unfortunately going down and being out majority of
33:08
Speaker 8: this year, I think he's going to be a great
33:11
Speaker 8: addition to the closer role and he'll really be able to,
33:15
Speaker 8: you know, close some games out for us.
33:18
Speaker 6: What are the conversations that are different from last year
33:21
Speaker 6: because I know last year, you know, you weren't here,
33:24
Speaker 6: you weren't in Baltimore the entire season, But what are
33:28
Speaker 6: the how are the conversations different in spring where it
33:30
Speaker 6: was like, guys, last year, we wanted to make the playoffs,
33:33
Speaker 6: We wanted to win the World Series, and you guys
33:36
Speaker 6: got punched in the mouth because of injuries, because of
33:38
Speaker 6: all those things. How have those conversations changed even just
33:42
Speaker 6: like a little bit, not expectations, but just the conversations
33:45
Speaker 6: in spring.
33:47
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a good question. I think I think we
33:50
Speaker 8: learned a lot last year. I think the saying goes,
33:54
Speaker 8: you can't win a division in March and April, but
33:57
Speaker 8: you can lose it. I think we learned that last year.
34:02
Speaker 8: I think, to be honest, I think it was probably
34:04
Speaker 8: the best thing that could have happened to us, because,
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Speaker 8: you know, the expectations have changed. I think we know
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Speaker 8: what it feels like to get punched in the mouth,
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Speaker 8: and we don't like that feeling. We don't want to
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Speaker 8: have that feeling again. And Albi has really set the
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Speaker 8: standard out of the gate. So I treat every day
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Speaker 8: like day one, especially, you know, as we're getting towards
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Speaker 8: kind of the dog days of spring training right now,
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Speaker 8: treating every day like day one, shown up to the
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Speaker 8: park with the same level intensity, same level energy and
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Speaker 8: work ethic. So it's all started with Albi. He's been
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Speaker 8: he's been unbelievable since day one.
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Speaker 1: The new spring training complex is incredible, right when they've
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Speaker 1: done here with the new the new complex.
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Speaker 2: But before we let you go, I have to do
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Speaker 2: you drive a truck in the offseason?
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Speaker 1: I did, because I'm looking at the parking lot over
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Speaker 1: here and it's a lot of like jacked up trucks.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they notice about baseball players crafts,
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Speaker 1: but they all drive these really big trucks, and every
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Speaker 1: parking is out is built for a compact car. So
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Speaker 1: watching these guys try to park and then get out
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Speaker 1: in their door that only opens like this far is
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Speaker 1: making me laugh because if you look, I can't see it,
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Speaker 1: but there's like seven trucks lined up in a row
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Speaker 1: and they're all about this far apart from each other.
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Speaker 1: Here amazing except for the parking lot, which they forgot.
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Speaker 2: Everyone drives a giant truck.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I haven't seen any I haven't seen any scratch paint.
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Speaker 8: So guys are doing a pretty good job. I mean
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Speaker 8: those through over there that the ford in the ram
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Speaker 8: or I don't know how the guy in the rams
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Speaker 8: they might have to get into the passenger side and
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Speaker 8: then crawl over exactly.
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Speaker 2: Well, Trevor, thank you very much. We really appreciate it.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely do it again. I appreciate you guys,