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RHOP: The OG Grand Dame with Charrisse · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: And I think when I left, I was probably if
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  Speaker 1: you put it in the great school type of situation,
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  Speaker 1: I was like in fifth grade when I left, and
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  Speaker 1: when I came back, these pitches are in college, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into this conversation right after these quick.
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  Speaker 4: Ass hey Ray drops.
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  Speaker 3: On today's episode of Reality for the King, I am
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  Speaker 3: joined by a woman. Now a lot of people call
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  Speaker 3: the original grandme.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, not Karen. I got Scharie's honey. Charis and
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  Speaker 2: her eyelashes are on today's episode of Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 3: You know I love you, Cheriz, and we are diving
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  Speaker 3: right into all the drama. We're talking about the accusations
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  Speaker 3: that Karen.
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  Speaker 2: Allegedly has a boy toy that isn't Ray.
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  Speaker 3: We also talk about how she was caught in a
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  Speaker 3: flashback line from the shady editors on whether or not
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  Speaker 3: she was holding Robin back from approaching Wendy in an
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  Speaker 3: earlier episode, and she also teases us to come on
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  Speaker 3: the rest of this explosive season on the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 3: of Potomac without further ado, please welcome Charis Eyelashes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes girl to the Chow.
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  Speaker 3: Charise I haven't wanted to get you on this podcast
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  Speaker 3: for a very long time, especially after you. Myself and
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  Speaker 3: the Green Eye Bandits. We had a good old Slummer
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  Speaker 3: party in Miami where I got a chance to meet
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  Speaker 3: the legend Churis Honey, and it was a good old
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  Speaker 3: girl talk, don't you think?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And I was standing out over you. I think
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  Speaker 1: the three of us were. I think we were totally
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  Speaker 1: fanned out.
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  Speaker 2: That is so sweet.
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  Speaker 3: No, I was panding on myself and after that meeting,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta get Charis on the show.
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  Speaker 2: So, look, you are one of the ogs.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people like to say the initial OG
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  Speaker 3: stands for the original Grandame.
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  Speaker 2: Oh would that be the case?
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  Speaker 1: You know that grind thing is a self appointed title. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll just go with original gangstuff something like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: after all, this is Potomac. Okay, Potomac. The real grind
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  Speaker 1: Downs owned hotels and planes and all kinds of things.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, that's a no, that's a note.
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  Speaker 2: Well let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: So you were the original cast member of the Royal
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  Speaker 3: Housewives of Atomac and rumor has it or should I
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  Speaker 3: say word on the.
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  Speaker 2: Street and my Gizell Boys word on the street is.
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  Speaker 3: That you kind of like cast the show because these
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  Speaker 3: are like your friends.
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  Speaker 1: Is that true, Cheries, That's absolutely true. So initially you
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  Speaker 1: probably know Adrian Wealth, who was the casting director for Potomac.
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  Speaker 1: Adrian called me, I thought it was a joke and
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  Speaker 1: I'm playing along because I thought he was Andre who
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  Speaker 1: was his brother, because they sound just the light ends up.
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  Speaker 1: He's really a person, you know. When we were on Zoom,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, you're really Adrian. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: we tried to cast Potomac. You would have thought I
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  Speaker 1: had a job because I was having interviews and Starbucks
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  Speaker 1: and doing the thing I had fun with. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: getting paid nothing. But I just took the title of
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  Speaker 1: in myself a time and like these other people doing Potomac,
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  Speaker 1: and gave myself a titles casting person. And it was
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  Speaker 1: hard at first because in Potomac it's a very conservative place.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get anybody to do it, like and the
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  Speaker 1: ones that wanted to do it, their husbands wouldn't allow
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  Speaker 1: them to do it. And like I said, this place
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  Speaker 1: is I don't Sometimes I'm like, how do I live here?
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  Speaker 1: Because the people who live here are loaded I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the pockets are super deep, so their husbands aren't letting
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  Speaker 1: them do a reality show. So I asked, could I
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  Speaker 1: go outside of Potomac and Adrian says sure. So the
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  Speaker 1: first person I called was Gizelle Robin and then the
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  Speaker 1: list goes on. Now, Karen got on by default. Actually
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  Speaker 1: someone thought she was a friend of mine because she
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  Speaker 1: was sitting at my table at a gala, and they
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  Speaker 1: thought she was my friend and recommended her. So Adrian
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  Speaker 1: kept telling me about my friend Karen. I said, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know anybody named Karen Huger, and
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  Speaker 1: he was like, sures your friends, and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not. But then eventually, I mean I met her.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, she's cool, you know, and you know that's
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  Speaker 1: all all happened.
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  Speaker 3: So you were letting Mariah carey so you didn't know her,
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  Speaker 3: and by her meaning Karen.
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  Speaker 2: Huger, correct, she well knew each other. She and Gizelle
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  Speaker 2: knew each other.
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  Speaker 3: So because your pockets run deep, you are amongst the
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  Speaker 3: wealthy elite in Potomac, DC, Maryland, Baltimore.
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  Speaker 2: All of the DMV honey.
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  Speaker 1: Were deep. I said, the pockets and Potomac are deep,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here on a wig in the prayer.
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  Speaker 3: You could be humblep you want to, honey, I'll google
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  Speaker 3: that network anyway. So there was a charity event.
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  Speaker 2: You obviously paid for a table.
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  Speaker 3: Karen was a plus one for someone else at your table,
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  Speaker 3: so she didn't pay for it herself.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the case, Well, she bought a ticket for
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  Speaker 1: another table. She was trying to sit at my table.
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  Speaker 1: She just didn't know how it worked. A friend of
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  Speaker 1: mine recommended her and said, Sharis gets a table every year.
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  Speaker 1: You should go to this event. So she started calling
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  Speaker 1: trying to sit at my table, and then all the
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  Speaker 1: stuff came. Once the show came about, it all came
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  Speaker 1: back to me like, oh, yeah, I was the woman
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  Speaker 1: who was trying to sit at my table. But I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know her. But she did sit at my table
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  Speaker 1: and some other things too. But yeah, so I.
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  Speaker 2: Had that year.
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  Speaker 1: I had more than one table, So she was at
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  Speaker 1: a table of mine. I should saying that actually wasn't
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  Speaker 1: physically sitting there. That's why I don't know who she
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know who she was. I didn't see her
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  Speaker 1: sitting there.
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  Speaker 2: I love you should read yourself, messie.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get into the fact that the show comes
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  Speaker 3: out on Bravo is the second black installment of the
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  Speaker 3: Royal Housewise franchise. You came on, you were fun, beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: deep pockets, married kids, the whole nine. And similar to
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  Speaker 3: Nini Leaks, who has also said that, you know, she
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  Speaker 3: brought on Kim Zoe's Y actual right, Witch Fell, she
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  Speaker 3: kind of helped the producer's cast the Hospics of Atlanta,
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  Speaker 3: but she was.
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  Speaker 2: On that show for over ten seasons.
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  Speaker 3: You weren't on that show very long, and you got
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  Speaker 3: you were the first OG to get fired. Did you
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  Speaker 3: feel some kind of way that a show you helped
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  Speaker 3: cast you were the first OG to get fired?
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I'm just answering your question now. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel any kind of way. I personally feel that when
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  Speaker 1: I did this show, I understand. Let me just go
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  Speaker 1: back to the casting park. Right before all this happened,
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  Speaker 1: I had lost like three siblings in two years, and
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  Speaker 1: so emotionally like I was, it was an escape for
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  Speaker 1: me to help Adrian with this project. So it's like
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  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to, you know, just keep my mind busy.
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  Speaker 1: And so when the I had no desire to be
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  Speaker 1: on the show. I just wanted to help cast it.
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  Speaker 1: And so there was this one spot and they kept saying, sure,
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  Speaker 1: he's here to glue, and I'm like, eh, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: because I knew my then husband wouldn't want to be
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  Speaker 1: a part of it. My marriage was going through something,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and it just was the timing was horrible.
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  Speaker 1: And so then I'll be very honest with you, Carlos,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't going through a divorce when they said I
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  Speaker 1: was going through a divorce. What was said to me?
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  Speaker 1: For my husband when I brought this thing up that
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  Speaker 1: they're interested in me being on the show, he said, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you do that, then we'll probably get a divorce.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh really, I didn't know. For me,
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  Speaker 1: when you say to me we'll probably get a divorce
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  Speaker 1: means your head is already somewhere else. So now I
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  Speaker 1: went to a whole different kind of spiral. And honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I did the show because I it was I gave
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  Speaker 1: up my career, I had given up everything, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell I'm gonna do now? So I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the show. And I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fun, and I knew nothing about reality TV.
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  Speaker 1: I came here and I didn't know what the heck
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  Speaker 1: I was doing. All of a sudden, I'm getting a divorce,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sleeping with a fireman, I'm doing all the stuff. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: I ended up. I was going I started at some
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  Speaker 1: point I was going through a divorce. Probably the second season,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say, was when it was official that
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  Speaker 1: I was getting a divorce. And then my kids were
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  Speaker 1: also going through a divorce. So I'm like, my son
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  Speaker 1: was having a hard time. It was like so much
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  Speaker 1: stuff that you don't see, and I was like, now
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  Speaker 1: I can look back at it. I was like depressed
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't know, you know. So it was I
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  Speaker 1: used to cry all the freaking time on that show,
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  Speaker 1: like crying all that time. We could be eating crabs
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  Speaker 1: and I'm crying, like, oh my god. It was just
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  Speaker 1: I just was not I was broken when I did
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  Speaker 1: that show. So season four, season three, season three, I
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  Speaker 1: became a friend, which was like, okay, good, the focus
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  Speaker 1: ain't on me. You know. I could deal with my stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but my stuff wasn't moving in TV time. That was
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  Speaker 1: a problem. Like when you do this stuff, you just
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  Speaker 1: gotta you gotta get a divorce. You gotta get everything
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  Speaker 1: is like quick, quick, quick, we want to see you
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  Speaker 1: dating cheries. I didn't want to date, like I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to heal. I really didn't want to divorce, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I was just going through all this pain and
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff. So it was good for me not
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  Speaker 1: to come back because I just I was checked out,
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  Speaker 1: to be quite.
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  Speaker 3: Honest with you, Yeah, no, that makes a lot of
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  Speaker 3: sense because, well a lot of people don't know is
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  Speaker 3: when you do reality television going through divorce, it's a
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  Speaker 3: very tough time. I experienced that with Nini Leaks, divorcing,
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  Speaker 3: the now late Greg Leagues, Love and Marriage, Huntsville, dealing
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  Speaker 3: with Martel and Melody going through that. So I can
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  Speaker 3: understand that, and I think it was best for you
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  Speaker 3: to just, you know, take some time off, deal with
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  Speaker 3: your real life.
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  Speaker 2: And here we are season seven. Now your back, baby.
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  Speaker 3: What made you want to go back into this world
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  Speaker 3: of reality knowing that this show now is really about
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of women who will.
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  Speaker 2: Throw you up there every chance they get.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was so weird for me at
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  Speaker 1: first because it wasn't like I was trying to get
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  Speaker 1: back on the show. At first, I got a text
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  Speaker 1: from Lorraine, and Lorraine was like, we want to see
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  Speaker 1: you back season seven, and I'm like, well, let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: But I really wasn't thinking it was that serious. And
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  Speaker 1: then I didn't hear anything, so I said, oh, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they changed your mind. And obviously I'm still friends with
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  Speaker 1: everyone except one. You know, I'm really cool with everyone
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  Speaker 1: except one. So you know, I know that Lorraine had
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  Speaker 1: talked to the different cast members and everyone's like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, probably maybe not one, but you know, of
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  Speaker 1: course we would love to have respect. And so at
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  Speaker 1: the the weird part was I wasn't really sure if
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to come back at first, honestly, because I
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  Speaker 1: was like at this peaceful place in my life, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, this stuff is crazy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so you got to deal with you know, like yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a liar, you know what I'm saying. You got
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  Speaker 1: to deal with all this other crazy stuff that comes
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  Speaker 1: along with it, you know. So I wasn't really sure,
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  Speaker 1: But then I said, Lorraine was very good with saying
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  Speaker 1: you know what sheres however you want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: You can come back as much as you want or
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  Speaker 1: not want. You know, you don't you know, we're not
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  Speaker 1: going to force this on you, you know, so it
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  Speaker 1: was like for me, you know, let me come back
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  Speaker 1: and have fun. That's what I thought. I want to
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  Speaker 1: be the fun girl, like you can't give me yourself
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  Speaker 1: titles on this show. I want to be the fun
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  Speaker 1: girl Richester have a good time. Yeah, no, don't work
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: And show ain't working like that, because what were seeing
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  Speaker 3: now is the fact that there's a lot of accusations
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  Speaker 3: going on. I had Jazelle Bryant on this podcast, and
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  Speaker 3: it appears that you know some things about Karen Huger.
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  Speaker 3: You allege a couple of seasons ago that she was
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  Speaker 3: allegedly seeing another man who has blue eyes, and we
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  Speaker 3: are now seeing that this season, Karen is running away
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  Speaker 3: from you as if your name is coronavirus, right, she
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  Speaker 3: refuses to be around you. And when I asked Giselle
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  Speaker 3: Bryant whether or not you've had some tea on it,
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  Speaker 3: she said, it's not my place.
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  Speaker 2: It's filled the tea, but let me know. The tea
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  Speaker 2: is spilled and I'm going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know things about Karen's marriage where she has
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  Speaker 3: allegedly been unfaithful.
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  Speaker 1: You know, in the streets of Potomac. It was something
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  Speaker 1: that was being said. This is before the show even,
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  Speaker 1: you know. It was it was a lot about this
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  Speaker 1: older black woman and Potomac, which I didn't know who
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know, but that's how she was always referred
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  Speaker 1: as the old Black Lady. And so I would hear
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  Speaker 1: all these things about the old Black Lady, and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the old Black Lady becomes Karen Huger,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I'm like, oh, now I know the
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  Speaker 1: old Black Lady. So all these different things I've been
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  Speaker 1: knowing and hearing for years, It's like, oh, put it
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  Speaker 1: all together. Now I know it. I see certain things
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  Speaker 1: that all make sense. So I'm like, oh, okay, now
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  Speaker 1: I know you. Nice to meet too.
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  Speaker 3: What were you hearing about this quote unquote old black
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  Speaker 3: lady in the streets of Potomac?
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  Speaker 2: Where were you hearing?
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  Speaker 1: Like here? And I you know, I don't I Carlos,
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  Speaker 1: I really don't talk about people. But this woman has
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  Speaker 1: said so much about me for some reason unbeknownst to me,
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  Speaker 1: because I really would never put her shit out on
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  Speaker 1: front street or say anything about her. If I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to say this stuf, I could have said it season one,
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  Speaker 1: season two. It's just not my m to put people's
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  Speaker 1: stuff out there. But you know, like say, in the
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  Speaker 1: local establishment here, this restaurant, popular restaurant is the village.
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  Speaker 1: And so this black lady used to get drunk and
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  Speaker 1: fall off the barstools, and you know that was this
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  Speaker 1: is going on for years, you know. And so that's
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  Speaker 1: the real reputation that she has in Potomac as the
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  Speaker 1: old drunk black lady that falls off, falls off of
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  Speaker 1: the bar stools, show freaking run around after these young
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  Speaker 1: little boys and all this stuff. That's her real reputation.
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  Speaker 1: Like seriously, but I can't tell all of her business.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, so when you said, well, listen, I believe
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  Speaker 3: it was season two or three reunion. You look gorgeous,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, you have the bob of the bangs,
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  Speaker 3: and I just loved your love, my.
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  Speaker 2: Love, you brought up this blue eye.
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  Speaker 1: I did. Man. She also called me a harlt and
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  Speaker 1: that's why I said.
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  Speaker 3: That, is there any truth that while you were married
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  Speaker 3: you were also having an affair?
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  Speaker 1: No? No, she you know, she wants to say that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she wants to make these things about me.
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  Speaker 1: People talk about me. I'm not going to act like
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  Speaker 1: my life is perfect. You know, it's like, oh, she's
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  Speaker 1: like someone said, I was messing with somebody that's in
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  Speaker 1: politics and Jersey. I don't even know any political people
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  Speaker 1: in Jersey. You know. One person they said was actually
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  Speaker 1: my first boyfriend in life. You know. So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people want to say, oh, she's doing this,
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  Speaker 1: my husband was doing this, and that, yeah, he probably
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  Speaker 1: was specific people. Do I know about these people? No,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but people like to make speculations and say things.
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  Speaker 1: But where the where are the where are the facts?
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  Speaker 3: But stay tuned for more. We'll be right back after
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  Speaker 3: these quick ads. This is Reality with the King and
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  Speaker 3: I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. When
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  Speaker 3: we look at the rest of the season. Are we
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  Speaker 3: going to see you and Karen have this conversation about
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  Speaker 3: things you've heard, because in the teaser for the season,
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  Speaker 3: we did see Karen get up out of her seat
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  Speaker 3: and point her fingers in her face and you know,
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  Speaker 3: said things like you're not gonna fuck with me and
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  Speaker 3: my husband. And on Karen's YouTube channel she said a
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  Speaker 3: few weeks ago that and I quote.
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  Speaker 2: I don't fuck with her because I don't fuck with her,
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  Speaker 2: but she doesn't have.
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  Speaker 1: A reason to dislike me. And that's the thing. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Walster Reese, if you call her the old black lady
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  Speaker 3: who slept a rob with young boys and any drugs,
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  Speaker 3: this is my first.
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  Speaker 1: Time ever saying that. Ever, I've never even said that.
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  Speaker 1: You've heard it first right here on Carlos King. I've
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  Speaker 1: never said that in my life. But this woman has
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  Speaker 1: made it her life to talk about me now, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's always been baffling because my whole thing was
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: just trying to figure out what did I do to this?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Like what did I do? Where does it come from?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Because I mean, you make a good point because at
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, we know that Karen and Giselle.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Read each other for sport, right, and we know the
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: history of what that is like.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And plus I even said to the both of them,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I think they just have fun doing it because it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: funny and they know that the audience loves it. But
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: you and the Grand dam seem to really have this
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: this relationship that breathes in and angst. And it may
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: not come from both sides, it may come from one side,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: But where does it go well. We got to watch
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: the rest of the season for me to pick. But
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: where does it stem from? Does it stem from the
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: fact that she called your Harlette you unless she had
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: this blue eyed boyfriend that she was cheating on the
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: black Bill Gates?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Like, where does it come from?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't know where it comes from with her.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I've never had an issue with her. I know she
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: said something about I said something about her mom or something,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: which I never did. I just said something like, you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: haven't been a good friend. We were it was season
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: five and I went to an event that Candice had
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and I said to her, you know, you haven't been
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a very good friend. And her thing is she took
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: offense to it because I wasn't well what I meant was,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I think I said to her I was around for her.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: We both have older parents, and so had older parents,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and so we were going through the same stages of
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: life with our parents and you know, dementia, you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: different things. And so I thought she and I were
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: kind of bonding in different ways because there was there's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of similarities between us. Like they thought she
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: and I would be good friends because we're like two
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: years apart, you know. I know it's like to tell,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: but it's like we're two years apart, and so we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: have so much in common, you know. And so when
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: her family was going through their thing, if Karen calls me,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: if she would call me and and would be emotional,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I would drop what I was doing and run to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: make sure she's good. You know. I was always trying
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to be a support friend, because that's one thing I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: do very well, is be a friend. She, on the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: other hand, she's not good at that. She's not a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: girl girl. She doesn't have girlfriends that she hangs out with,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Like when I get off the car with you, I'm
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: gonna go be some girlfriends and we're gonna have dinner
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and have a key key it up and everything. She
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't do stuff like that, you know, she doesn't have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that relationship with women. And so you know, I tried,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, when my situation, like well my
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: dad passed, she didn't offer me the same support. Now, granted,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not on the show anymore, but I thought, as
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a central so damn grand that you would do grand things,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you know, send me some flowers, you know, I mean,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: she sent me a text sorry for your loss or something,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, and that was it, you know, and I'm like, wow,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: this is interesting, you know. So that was my thing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And so she's mad because I'm saying she wasn't there
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: for me. But she wasn't. We weren't. But she's saying
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: we weren't friends. Well why weren't we friends? I need
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to understand what did I do to you that causes
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you so much resentment towards me? What did I do?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: What did you do at that dinner table where we
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: saw on the teaser her get up and point her
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: things in your face?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: What happened that day?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, of course I can't get into
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: totals about what happened, but she was constantly lighting of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you know, making these lies accusations about me. One thing,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: because I'm just asking yourself a question, what did I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: do to you? And everything that she's coming back with
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was first of all, stuff that had nothing to do
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: with her, you know, just shit. And then it got
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to a point like when someone's constantly attacking your character
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: with lies, with no receipts, no nothing, just saying shit,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I got this off, you know. And one thing I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: do regret is that allowed her to trigger me. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: learned that I could be triggered. I don't know. I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: thought I was pe strees, but uh yeah, not that day,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: but not that day. But it was just, you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember, Carlos, I don't even remember most
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of it. You blacked out, I basically because I don't remember.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Like Mia was telling me stuff the next day, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Giselle was saying stuff like everybody. It was so weird
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: because like the next day, Giselle was numb, like still
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: stuck from the night before. It was crazy.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Does it get as bad as.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Hell? No, ain't gonna get that bad anybody putting no
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: hands on the buddy?
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Oh no, I was gonna say, can moniecause I know
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: y'all gonna get down like that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Does it get as bad as.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Giselle and Karen with the hot box and the scene scene?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Or is it worse than that?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: It's horrible. I felt bad about it, I really honestly
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And that's why she doesn't fuck with you.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm fuckable, though, so I don't care.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Now I get a girl of so speaking of lying.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: But I came back with truths. That's why she doesn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: fuck with me.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, stay tuned.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, So, speaking of lying, there was a recent episode
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: where the Housewives of Potomac were at this winery and
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Robin and Wendy had it out, and Wendy said, that girl,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you got so I'm paraphrasing, but that Robin got so
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: aggressive that it took Cheries to kind of hold her
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: back and put her hands on Robin to hold her back.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Robin denied it. She facetimed, you're pretty ass. You said no,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I never did it. Editors rewound the tape showed that
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: you did push Robin back.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't push her. I touched her. I was like, like,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: sit down. I just first of all, we had security there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: We had security, so it wasn't an environment where Robin
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: was about to like attack her. Wendy said, standing your truth,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: standing your truth, and Robin stood up and said, I'm
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: standing in my truth. That's why she stood up. It
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't like she stood up because she was going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: be aggressive towards her. She stood up because when he
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: told her to stand up, Whendy also told her to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: sit down. She sat down. So it was not an
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: aggressive situation. Everyone. I'm the only one that got up
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be very honest. Well, she got up.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I'm from New Jersey, Carlos So in New Jersey. It's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: just a natural instinct that when somebody gets up, you
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: see something's gonna happen. Okay, I will be very honest
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: about that part. So I got up and I said,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you know, sit down, you know, like that, and I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: when she asked me the question and I said no.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I also said a whole lot of other stuff because
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: the thing was, after a while, I'm standing there and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I standing here? Because I felt
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: stupid because I'm standing there, but they're going back and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: forth and I'm in the middle. Like in my head,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how do I sit back down? You know?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't a threatening situation. I didn't hold her back,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: she wasn't going to fight her, and was just saying,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: we're yelling and arguing, and I just you know, but
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: our theme was supposed to be about women's empowerment. Believe
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it or not, We're supposed to be empowering each other.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: That was supposed to be like an empowering trip. So we.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Right, there's a lot of art, there's a lot of
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of things to say about the real
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: possible tollement.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think empowerment comes.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: It's not, but we're trying to get there. So it
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: was simple. I just wanted her to sit down, let's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: talk civilized to one another. You know. That's what I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: was doing now. Honestly, I don't even remember putting my
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: hands up to tell her to sit back. So when
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: she asked a question, Honestly, I don't even remember doing that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I just remember standing in the middle to keep them
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: from getting close to each other. That's my whole point,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and I wouldn't wanted to diffuse the situation, you know, chill,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: let's talk. Since I've been like when I came back,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, it seemed like most
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of them didn't like Wendy okay, and I'm going around
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: trying to make people like her like I think she's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: an amazing woman. I mean, she brings a lot to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the show. She's I was very team Wendy when she
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: came in with all the degrees that she has, first
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: African and the Housewives franchise, you know, so I'm out
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: of all of that stuff. We got a huge following
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: in the African community. So I'm super proud of Wendy.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I the only thing with Wendy, honestly, and I actually
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: told her this myself when she asked my opinion. I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: told her I wanted her to be that. I was
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: hoping she would be the person who, like didn't have
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to get all, you know, all this all the time,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that she would just say shit that we would have
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to google, you know, because she's that bad bitch. That's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: what I want her to be. You know, I don't
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: know if you know Michael Dyson, you.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Know Michaeltely now like him.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I could be in a conversation with Michael and he
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'll be writing stuff down in my notes
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: because I don't know what the fuck he's talking about,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and I got to google it. That's where I'm the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: concept I'm getting with with Wendy, Like you should be
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: able to cut women up with your words, you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: take them back to school. They don't even know what
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the hell you're talking about. That's what I was hoping,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and it just ends up like they're always fighting, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: then her Robin kept fighting, and actually Robn really liked
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Wendy at one point, like really liked her. And this
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: is I wasn't even on the show. Robin used to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: talk to me about Wendy. This is how I know
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: she really liked her as a person. You know. So,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and I had a conversation with Windy and I'm like saying, y'all,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: me just just listen. No one's listening. Everyone's yelling, nobody's listening.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: But they're out. They're both two amazing women. Hope they
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: work it out. Good luck with that. I don't know
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: if it'll happen, but stay two.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: State, no, stay tuned.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Wendy was on my podcast and a lot of people
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: myself included at one point, and she of course defending
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: herself and made realize, okay, I announ see when's point
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: of view. But a lot of people felt that Wendy
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: has changed, and to what you're saying, they wanted her
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: to rise above the what the other women were providing,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: which was you know, a read and things of that nature.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And they feel like they don't know who Wendy is.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: You actually are with these ladies on a day to
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: day basis, so you see more of their side than
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: we do.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like we are getting the authentic Wendy.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: You know what. To be honest with you, I learned
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: something about her after listening to her on your show,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: like her living in the shadow of her mom and
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: trying to be that typical African because you know, Africans
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: are like you're going to be a doctor, You're going
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to be an engineer, you're going to be a lawyer.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They already know, you know. So just you know, her
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: trying to live her life to please her mother and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: instead and finally she's stepping out being who she want
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to be. So for me, honestly, thank you, Carlos, because
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I learned something about her that I didn't know, but
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I understand it, you know. And I think that that's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: where when I say the communication with the ladies come
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in communicate about that, like let's talk, let's be real,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: let's be authentic, let's be our authentic self. I think
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: sometimes with the cameras get in the way. Honestly, it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: an amazing cast. Every single one of them, even the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: one that doesn't like me, is amazing and has a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: rightful place on the show. They've done a great job.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I'm so proud I did a good job picking most
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: of them. Just be something on another show, but everyone
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: has their role. I think each of them are phenomenal
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in their own way when I came. When I left
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the show, I think, you know, like I told you,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about reality TV, and I think
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: when I left, I was probably if you put it
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: in a great school type of situation, I was like
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: in fifth grade when I left, and when I came back,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: these pitches are in college and I'm like, what the hell,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. Everyone's amazing, and they know their craft and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they're doing a great job, and I'm proud to just
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: witness the growth of all of them.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: No, it's a great show.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: It's my favorite housewives that in Beverly Hills, and of
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: course Atlanta will.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yes. Of course.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: So with that being said, though, would you ever consider
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: going back to Potomac as a full time housewife?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, like I just said, not,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and I mean that's in the bottom of my heart.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: If I had to pick somebody to leave off of
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that show, I wouldn't be able to, you know, I
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to pick someone to leave. So I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: think in order for me to come, somebody would have
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: to go. I don't think they want eight housewives. But
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I really it's a good it's a good situation like it.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You know, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Okay, Okay,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I mean I love the idea of being a housewife again,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'll say that, but I do I honestly, I'll be
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: very honest. When I was on, I fell so far
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: behind the eight ball, you know, and it took me
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: a while to catch up to it. And I'm still
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like now, I think I'm in high school and they
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: about to graduate college. I'm trying to catch up.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how the rest of the season pans
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: out with your appearance and listen before I'll let you go,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: because you are in OG, you also cast the show.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: If you had to cast season eight of the Real
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Housewives of Potomac, who would you like to be a
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: part of the cast?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Old Housewives and current Housewives?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Old, old Housewives and current I think that it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Was your five.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: It has to be five five Potomac Housewives to be
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: on season eight.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, that's a hard one, Carlos. I love
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: all of them. I like the Ogs first of all,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, I'm gonna go with that first. Gez
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the originals just to be safe.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: So Charise, Giselle, Robin, Karen, Katie, and Ashley.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I love I love all the new ones,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: trust me, I swear to you, I love all of them.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, So Charis, what can we expect from you for
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the rest of the season of Potomac?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the focus is it. I'm not a housewife,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: so there's no focus on my personal story or anything
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: like that. I was hoping I was going to be
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: able to host some relevance, but we didn't get to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Why didn't you buy the girls that Tina knows Lost
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: and Wearable art?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Golla?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Thought about it? I thought about it maybe next year.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: How much does it cost to go?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Well, the lowest ticket is like thirty five thousand dollars, No,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Thirty five hundred. Yeah, and how much was your ticket?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Thirty five hundred okay, Yeah, but I was at a
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars table.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You got your caring on. I'm teasing, that's.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: A great that's a great event. I'm going to get
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a table next year.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Ooh, here we go Season A.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: All right, ses, Well, where can the reality with the
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: King listeners, my brain drop, follow you, support you and
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: all that good stuff.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: All right, I suck at social media and I'm promising
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to get better this year. But one the number one
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: trees cha r R I s SE is my Instagram.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: And then I'm sureis Jackson joining on Twitter. And I'm
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: going to be doing a podcast.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Congratulations, welcome to the podcast world.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm working on that now.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Well, make sure when you launch it, you come back
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: on here so we can talk about whatever it is
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: that you and the Grandame are going through, because yeah,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: we gotta dig deep with that too, baby.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we gotta. Well, when you figure it out,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: you let me know it out.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Well. Thank you, Chares, I love you and I'll see
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you more.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Every Sunday, eight o'clock on Bravo, The Real Housewives of Atomac.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, baby, I love you some. Charise
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Charies is like that old school auntie who got so
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: much money and so much wealth and so much shame,
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: and she does it in such a funny, classy way.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I can talk to this thing all day long. I
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: love miss things. She's everything to me.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: So I want to hear from you, though.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Let me know your thoughts on the conversation and if
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