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Because This Is My First Life | Full K-drama Review / Ep. 67 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is Tabaki Rambles, where a couple of
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  friends review Korean dramas. Welcome back to another episode,
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  guys. I am so excited to talk about
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  the drama that we're going to talk about today.
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  And I am actually joined by Becky from Don't See Rebecca on
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  TikTok. How are you, Becky?
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  Hello, I'm doing well. How are you?
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  I'm doing. So, well, I was telling you
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  earlier, I was like, I haven't talked to anybody like all day
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  long. So this is the first time I'm
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  talking to somebody. I'm sorry if I sound a little
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  weird. Becky has been on several
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  episodes of the drama trio over on Liliana's Tea and Soulju
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  podcast. And so we have recorded before,
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  but this is the first time that you're on Tabak like this is a
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  special day. We're doing a special nice easy
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  comfort watch. I would feel to ease you in for
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  those of you who don't follow you on Tiktok, which I I feel
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  like everybody should follow you on Tiktok.
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  But what what has been your experience watching K dramas?
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  If you wanna list off maybe a couple of K dramas that you
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  really enjoy watching your favorite genres, maybe just to
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  get a little intro on you. Yeah, of course.
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  My throat is also not working this morning.
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  So I've been watching K dramas for a while now.
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  I actually looked because you asked me how many I've watched.
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  I've watched like over 100 at this point.
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  But I think my favorite ones, I just, I love a good romance
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  story, especially one with like a lot of emotional depth.
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  So I mean, I love our beloved summer so so, so, so much.
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  An older one that I really like. I don't know if a lot of people
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  have seen it, but Sassy Gogo is just like, there's so many
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  layers to it. If you've never watched it, it's
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  very interesting. And then the newest one that is
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  like one of my favorite is moving.
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  And it's like, no one has seen moving.
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  They need to see moving. It's a masterpiece.
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  Oh my gosh. Masterpiece.
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  It is, it is. I love moving.
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  We did cover it on the on the feed a little earlier.
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  I don't remember what episode, but if you scroll back, you'll
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  find the moving episode. I love it.
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  I am so glad that it's up for a bunch of Pick Song awards.
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  The Beck songs are gonna air on May 7th, I believe, and that's
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  when we'll know who won Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Drama,
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  and all of these great categories for dramas and film
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  and variety series. So obviously I'm kind of more
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  concerned with the K dramas 'cause I haven't watched all of
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  the K films that have been nominated.
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  I feel bad even commenting on those.
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  But it should be an interesting year because Moving and My
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  Dearest are like the top two contenders, I would say.
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  And then there's a lot of dramas and actors and actresses who
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  were nominated, and I don't think people were, like,
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  familiar with the work that they had done.
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  So it just goes to show that the Korean audience is connecting
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  with different things than the international audience.
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  Yeah, but you watch a lot of stuff, not just K dramas.
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  You watch J dramas, you watch Chinese dramas, you watch anime.
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  You are like all Jack of all trades I would say.
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  Yeah, yeah, I've I really, I branched into C dramas.
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  I feel this was like a while back and they're, they're just
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  so fun. They're they're a lot different
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  than K dramas. So I always feel like if you
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  like K dramas and you're interested in branching out and
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  seeing, you know, the other type of stuff they have out there,
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  see dramas are always a great option as well.
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  Yeah, I totally agree. And of course, as you guys know,
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  on Tibak, we have covered a couple of J dramas, a couple of
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  C dramas, well, more than a few C dramas because I also like
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  watching different things every once in a while, not just crit K
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  dramas, even though that's my first love.
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  But Speaking of first love, we are going to talk about because
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  this is my first life on this episode.
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  So with that being said, we're just going to go right into the
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  non spoiler section like usual. I will read the Vicki synopsis.
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  It is the Vicki synopsis today because they had the better
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  synopsis. The Asian wiki and my drama list
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  synopsis were like real clunky and I was like, I don't want to
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  deal with that today. So here's the Vicki synopsis.
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  Who has time for love when finances are on the mind?
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  Nam Sayi is a socially awkward man in his early 30s who has
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  spent his life savings purchasing his own house.
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  While he can now be called the master of his own home, his
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  finances are in a in a sorry state and his job as an IT
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  employee provides him with next to no disposable income after
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  paying off his mortgage. Yunjio, also in her late 30s,
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  I'm sorry early 30s, actually is a homeless writer.
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  I feel like homeless has a different connotation that
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  house. Such a strange way to put it,
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  but. She doesn't own a home.
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  She's not wrong. Yeah, it's not wrong, but she's
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  not homeless. Yeah, houseless house.
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  Poor houseless houseless writer who barely makes enough to feed
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  herself. Dating is the last thing on the
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  mind for these financially strapped singles.
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  Through a turn of events, deal comes to rent a place to stay
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  and say he's house and they find themselves as landlord and
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  tenant. How will these individuals grow
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  in the unexpected circumstance of being thrust together?
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  Is there room for romance in such impoverished situations?
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  I also don't know if impoverished is the right word,
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  but OK. They live in a great house.
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  The house is beautiful. Yeah, yeah.
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  Can they help each other work through their personal, familial
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  and financial issues? So because This is My first Life
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  aired from October to November 2017, It is the traditional 16
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  episodes long. It was directed by Pakhtun Hua.
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  He's also directed things like Let's Eat, Let's Eat too, which
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  I love those two shows. Bring it on Ghosts, What's wrong
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  with Secretary Kim from 2018, which we covered on season one
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  of the podcast. If you want to scroll back in
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  your podcast feed and listen to that Touch your heart in 2019.
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  And he's also done. I'm looking around to make sure
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  no one's gonna come after me. Alchemy of Souls, 2022, parts
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  one and two of Alchemy of Souls. So how do you how do you feel
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  about that? Does this make sense that this
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  director also did because this is my first life.
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  Are you kind of like, wow, that's strange.
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  I didn't realize that. That's interesting.
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  I, I haven't seen, I haven't seen a lot of them besides just
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  like two on the list. So I feel like I I need to watch
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  Let's Eat now so I can truly see 'cause you said that's a really.
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  Good one. I really love let's you're gonna
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  like let's eat and let's eat too.
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  Let's eat 3. There's three of them, so let's
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  eat 3 is fine. It's just not my favorite.
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  They started like messing with it a little bit to keep the male
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  lead the same, but they keep changing the female lead for
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  each season, if that makes any sense.
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  And like the reasons for like why it's a new love interest.
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  I think it just gets a little crazy.
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  So let's eat. I would highly recommend that.
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  It is full of food porn. Like they're constantly eating.
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  And I really appreciated that show.
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  It like introduced me to a lot of Korean food.
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  And obviously the story is really good as well.
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  So let's eat, let's eat 2. Those are my faves and Alchemy
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  of Souls. Obviously we've covered all
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  Alchemy of souls on the podcast. I we don't want to rehash it,
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  but it's there if you want to go back and listen to those.
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  I think it's part one and Part 2.
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  There's the two-part episode because it was that much content
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  to talk about. So because this is my first life
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  was written by Yun Nan Doon. She's a female screenwriter.
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  She's also written Cool Guys Hot Ramen from 2011, The Queen of
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  Office from 2013 and Hogu's Love from 2015.
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  That's it. Like she hasn't written
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  basically anything else. And while I was looking her up,
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  I found that there was a little bit of a, a scandal with because
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  this is my first life. So I, I guess we'll pause here
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  'cause we're already talking about the writer, but the
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  scandal is a plagiarism scandal and it didn't like make a bunch
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  of rounds here in the States. It was just kind of like
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  relegated to Koala's playground, which is a less than reputable
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  news site for Hollyu slash K news.
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  And then it was also like in a Reddit feed and people were
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  commenting on it. But I was like, this is enough
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  to I think chat real quick about it.
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  So the scandal is she had LED allegedly used the J drama We
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  Got Married as a job as its source material and used that
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  premise without credit. But he this is the similarities
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  between the show as I'm to understand it because I have not
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  watched this J drama before. The similarities are both share
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  a contract marriage, both have a socially awkward male lead who
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  works in IT, and both have a quirky heroine.
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  But from the Reddit comments people were like I watched both
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  shows. I cannot understand why it's
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  played that they're screaming plagiarism.
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  It's maybe she took inspiration. At the most she took inspiration
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  from that drama, if anything, which came out the year before.
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  Because this is my first life, I believe.
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  I just want to put that out there just in case people didn't
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  know, but do you have thoughts on this at all?
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  So here's the thing, like contract marriage dramas are
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  like in in a sense that the same thing happens in like most of
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  them. So like I feel like the only
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  thing you can get from that is the the jobs are the same and
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  like their personalities are the same.
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  But that could literally there's hundreds of shows like I'd have
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  to watch both. I know, yeah, I'd had.
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  The only way to know how you feel about it is to watch both.
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  I'm not going to sit here and watch AJ drama just to see if
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  that Because this is my first life was plagiarized.
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  Who has the time for that? Yeah.
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  And make a whole PowerPoint presentant.
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  This is why I feel. And no, but I think it might be
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  that this scandal, if it really did gain traction in Korea, that
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  could have sunk her career because she really hasn't done
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  anything after because this is my first life.
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  So I feel kind of bad, but I don't know, I just want to throw
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  that out there. I don't think it has like a,
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  there's a case really for it. Did you know that they this?
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  So since I I just watched it yesterday some of the stuff is
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  still fresh in my mind. That cool guys hot ramen thing
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  was brought up in the drama, like the title was brought in
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  the drama 'cause they were talking about the stuff she's
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  written when she's at the wedding and she's she's like,
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  I've, I've wrote cool guy hot ramen and then the girl's like,
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  that's funny. I've never heard of that.
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  So she put her, her, her. Own drama, she's well, how do we
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  put this? The female lead is also a a
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  drama writer and she says I wrote this show, but it the show
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  was in reality written by the screenwriter of because this is
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  my first. It's a little confusing, but I
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  I'm on the same page as you just to explain it for people.
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  That is wild. I didn't even realize I didn't
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  remember a cool guy's hot ramen being one of the.
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  'Cause it stuck with me, 'cause I'm like, that's such a weird
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  title. And then they're like, what is
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  that about? And like, you know, and then
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  you'd I just looked at that now and I'm like, oh, why is why is
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  Jess listing, you know, the the shows that that the.
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  Girl in the Show is a fictional show.
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  It's a real, it's a real show. We have to watch that.
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  Can we watch, guys? Hot Robin.
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  We have to. It's from 2011.
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  I think it's fair game. I.
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  Don't know what? It is, though.
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  But what? Yeah, Cool guys, hot Robin.
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  Just to see what? First of all, cool guys, hot
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  ramen. I'm thinking it's hot guys and
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  hot ramen but I don't know. I kind of I want to look.
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  Up, you're going to look at the description wait, because like.
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  I thought it was fake because it's such a weird name.
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  It is. It's real.
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  I'm. Maybe it's a different like you
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  know, sometimes they change. The name.
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  Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  'Cause I see it flower boy ramen shop but I'm not.
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  No, that's not it. OK I am clicking on it right
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  now. It wait it is flower boy ramen
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  shop. That's the description.
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  Read the description. I've I've watched this show.
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  Wait, you have? Of course, this is Oh my God, so
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  cool guys. Hot ramen is the English title.
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  The literal title is flower boy ramen shop, which I've 100% I've
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  seen that show. Wow.
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  What is life? What is life?
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  This is for those who have never watched this is, I feel like a
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  lot of people might like it, but it stars Zhengyou Wu Echunga,
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  who Echunga does a major like cameo at the end of our show.
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  Like because this is my first life and Iku, if you look at
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  these people, you'd be like, Oh my God, I know who these actors
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  are. That's.
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  Crazy. I love it.
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  Wow. I feel like a detective, yeah.
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  But wow, I'm so glad we took a minute to like, look that up
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  because I would have never known that was Flower Boy Ramen shop.
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  So she wrote Flower Boy ramen shop.
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  Queen of office and Hogue's love.
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  I can't believe that the people in the show like because this is
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  my first life. Those bitches didn't recognize
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  cool guys hot Robin because that is flower boy Robin shop put
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  some respect on that name. All right, Oh my goodness.
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  So moving on. The show stars even key as Nam
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  say he he has been in about 17 movies.
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  I have watched a couple of them Spellbound from 2011.
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  He stars in it with Sonia Jin. That's Sonia Jin from Crash
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  Landing on you. She sees ghosts and he's like a
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  magician. It's a really quirky ROM com.
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  I think I'd recommend it. It's not like amazing, but it's
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  it's standard. He was also in Monster from 2014
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  with Kim Go UN. This was before Kim Go UN.
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  Was Kim Go UN like Goblin's bride?
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  You know what I'm saying? So she was really young in this
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  and he plays a killer. And The thing is, ever since I
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  saw him in Monster from 2014, he's always had like a serial
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  killer look to him because of him playing a killer in that
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  movie. Have you watched Behind Your
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  Touch? No, I haven't watched.
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  SO that's also something that he's starred in.
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  He's been about 14 TV shows, Behind Your Touch being one of
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  them. What?
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  What do you have to say about Behind Your?
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  Touch his, his acting like if it's crazy, if you were to watch
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  like because this is My first life and then watch behind your
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  touch because he's a completely different actor.
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  He's funny, he's silly, he's like serious, but like it's
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  something you normally don't see from him 'cause he's, I mean, I
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  guess besides though, my ghost sync, which I haven't seen, but
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  I don't know, I, I just think of character from behind your touch
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  every time and I'm like, he's so fun, like he's just so silly.
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  You have to, it's ridiculous though.
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  It's a ridiculous show and I have.
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  To what is behind your touch about for those who don't know
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  just so quick. I'm going to tell you, I was
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  literally talking with friends who who don't watch dramas and I
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  was trying to explain this drama when I was watching it ongoing
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  and they thought I was lying to them.
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  I had to look it up and show them because they're like Becky.
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  There is no way that there is AK drama out there where a girl can
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  touch people's butts and see their like memories and things
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  that recently happened and thoughts.
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  I was like. They didn't believe it.
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  It's all true, I swear. And I finished it you.
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  Did I? Did.
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  I think it was getting a lot of traction because of the premise
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  and then I don't remember people sort of wrapping that up.
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  But I'm glad you finished it. So he was in behind your touch.
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  That's last year, 2023. Yeah.
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  He was in my Liberation notes from 2022, which I absolutely
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  love that show. I don't know if I could ever
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  rewatch it, but I did love it the first time I watched it.
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  I also talked about it. I was I did a guest spot on
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  Swoon Diaries podcast with Nas and we talked about my
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  liberation notes in detail. So that was a fun, nice chill
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  episode. If you want to go to her feed
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  and look, check that out. He's been in The Lies Within the
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  Beauty Inside from 2018. I don't know if The Beauty
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  Inside is any good. I've heard such mixed reviews.
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  I love the movie that it's based on, but then I never watched the
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  show which seems rather different and totally different
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  vibe than the movie I. Don't know.
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  I haven't seen that either, so I don't know.
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  Yeah, and then he's also been in Shut Up Flower Boy Band from
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  2012, which he has Raging Guy Liner in that show.
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  Oh. My goodness.
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  Yeah, I, I, I thought he had a bigger role, but it says here
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  that it's just a vocal's cameo. Maybe he was in it a couple
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  episodes or something. Look if you are looking for a
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  really good music K drama you're into I don't know, dream High
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  and other like K pop adjacent shows, this is a show I love.
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  Shut up flower boy band. I love it.
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  OK? OK, it's old love.
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  It's 2012 show how cringy is it on a scale of one to 10 beyond
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  I? Haven't, I haven't rewatched it
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  in a minute, so I can't stay with my 2024 eyes and heart and
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  mind if it's cringing now. But when I watched it, I thought
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  it was really intriguing 'cause I learned a lot about the
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  industry. I learned a lot about, you know,
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  if one person is talented in a band, they might get signed
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  versus everybody else. And sort of it's all about
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  keeping the integrity. You're like artist integrity
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  while you're going through this crazy process of trying to get
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  famous, trying to have other people listen to your music.
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  And I like it. Flower Boy, obviously meaning
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  that the guys in the band are all hot, but it's good.
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  I liked it. I love to check it out.
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  I love I love a good music drama so I just added that to my list.
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  OK, it's it's older, it's 2012, so be kind to it.
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  It's not as high production value as what you're used to
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  seeing nowadays. But I thought that the plot and
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  the characters is just just very good.
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  So that's him, our male lead. And then we also have Chung
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  Suman, who plays Jinggang, our screenwriter, I guess drama
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  writer in the show. She's been in Playful Kiss from
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  2010 I. I always like to mention that
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  because it is such a bad show. When I first watched it, I was
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  like, this is crazy. I was getting the ick.
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  I was getting cringe. It was so cringe.
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  You dropped it. Yeah.
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  It depends on like when you watch it.
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  You might be more forgiving. I watched it maybe around
• 20:42
  20/12/2013 and I was kind of like, this is crazy, but I just
• 20:48
  want to see it through. Finished it.
• 20:52
  Oh yeah, I finished it. Yeah.
• 20:53
  Oh. My goodness.
• 20:54
  So playful kiss, can we get married?
• 20:58
  My father is strange. The smile has left your eyes,
• 21:02
  which I think that according to the release schedule that I put
• 21:07
  together, the Smile Has Left your eyes episode should already
• 21:10
  be out. So if you want to scroll back in
• 21:14
  your podcast feed, this is so strange because it's not out
• 21:16
  while we're recording this, but it will be out after it's
• 21:20
  anyway, Long story short, if you want to scroll back in your
• 21:23
  pocket and say you can listen to me and Sarah from K drama, this
• 21:27
  talk about the smile has left your eyes.
• 21:29
  And then Jung Suman has also been an alchemy of souls from
• 21:33
  2022. So part one.
• 21:37
  So how do you feel about Jung Suman as an actress and and
• 21:41
  stuff? I think she's a great actress.
• 21:43
  I like her acting. I haven't seen a ton of the
• 21:46
  stuff she's in besides like just two or three of those on the
• 21:48
  list, but I do. I do really like her as an
• 21:51
  actress. How about you?
• 21:53
  I love her and this is the my favorite thing that she's been
• 21:56
  in because this is my first life is my favorite thing that she's
• 21:59
  been in. And every time I see her, I
• 22:02
  think of this role and this character and it brings me a lot
• 22:08
  of warmth and joy. And I love, I just love her
• 22:12
  acting. I don't know, she's like, so
• 22:14
  real. And.
• 22:17
  Second to that, I think of playful kiss, but we're not
• 22:21
  we're not going to go think about that.
• 22:22
  We don't think about that. But anyway, I would love to hear
• 22:25
  for those listening, if you have thoughts on Chung Soo Min or
• 22:28
  Emin Ki as actors, what your favorite stuff that they've been
• 22:31
  in. That would be awesome to hear
• 22:33
  from you guys. But but that being said, there's
• 22:36
  loads of more cast members. It's a bit of an ensemble cast,
• 22:39
  but those are the main two. We have Esom as Suji, she's a
• 22:44
  one of the best friends. We have Kim Gaun as Horan, also
• 22:49
  one of the best friends. And then we have Pak Byungun as
• 22:52
  Sangu, the CEO character of the app that says character
• 22:58
  develops. And then we also have Kim Munsuk
• 23:02
  as Onesuk, the boyfriend slash fiance of one of the BFFS.
• 23:07
  So that being said, that's it. We've come to the end of the
• 23:11
  cast list. What do you think about Because
• 23:14
  This is My First Life and I believe you rewatched it in a
• 23:20
  epic binge session just yesterday, so it's a real thrash
• 23:25
  in your mind. Let me know your thoughts.
• 23:29
  So I'm not a show rewatcher and I was really struggling getting
• 23:34
  into rewatching this again. Like I was having a whole like
• 23:38
  mental time. But once they got to the parts
• 23:41
  that like my brain kind of forgot what happened next, I was
• 23:44
  like, oh OK I want to know what happens next for this.
• 23:47
  But the romance I it's like a slow burn, but at the same time
• 23:52
  like, I don't know, I don't know how to explain it.
• 23:55
  The I love the fact that those two characters are just so
• 23:59
  comfortable with each other and they just they don't even have
• 24:02
  to say a lot of words. You can see they just understand
• 24:05
  each other so well. I love the friendships in this.
• 24:08
  I love the relationships. I love how real it is because
• 24:12
  this is the type of show that's not cookie cutter standard K
• 24:16
  drama. It talks about like realistic
• 24:19
  relationship problems with all of the characters.
• 24:23
  There's, there's so many different things it goes into
• 24:26
  and I, I love how diverse it is with, with each character and
• 24:30
  it, it like normally for side characters, you know, they're
• 24:34
  just on the side. You're like, I don't really,
• 24:35
  sometimes you don't care about their storylines.
• 24:37
  But for all of these, I was pretty invested in all their
• 24:40
  storylines. I wanted to see what ended up
• 24:41
  happening with each of their relationships and just them in
• 24:45
  general, because I want to see them happy.
• 24:48
  But it was it's it's a good watch.
• 24:50
  I I really enjoyed re watching it.
• 24:53
  I just love the the whole cast as a whole and just like all the
• 24:58
  stuff that they do for the drama, it just is it's AI feel
• 25:02
  like if you haven't seen it, you have to at least see it one time
• 25:05
  because because it's just it's one of those dramas.
• 25:08
  Yeah, it's a good one. It's.
• 25:10
  A good one. It's a good one.
• 25:12
  I remember watching this drama, I think in 20, 17 or 2018, right
• 25:20
  around when it aired, and man, I love this show.
• 25:25
  I was like, why is no one talking about this show?
• 25:27
  I really thought it was progressive.
• 25:30
  I thought it was feminist. It covered consent.
• 25:32
  We had two like consenting adults, like asking each other
• 25:35
  things like, can we sleep together?
• 25:38
  Is it all right if I hug you? Different things like that.
• 25:42
  It's so like it's consent done right because it's sexy and it's
• 25:48
  like adding to their relationship and the drama
• 25:52
  between them and these growing feelings that they are
• 25:55
  experiencing. And again, it's very real.
• 26:00
  It's very grounded. And I love the ensemble cast.
• 26:03
  I love this friendship between the three girls.
• 26:06
  I was like, I think I was finding a lot of commonalities
• 26:09
  between them and my own friends group, which we've since kind of
• 26:13
  gone our separate ways and we live in different countries and
• 26:17
  stuff like that. But Oh my God, I was like, I'm
• 26:20
  this character, My friend was this character and my other
• 26:25
  friend was this character and their traits are so recognizable
• 26:30
  and I think the show is just so comforting.
• 26:36
  As soon as I started re watching it, it is so comforting.
• 26:40
  So I started re watching it and I again, I've said this before,
• 26:43
  I'm not necessarily a drama re watcher.
• 26:46
  So it was a big deal for me to put this even on the docket
• 26:49
  because I had already seen it and I was like, I don't know, I
• 26:52
  kind of feel like watching it again and covering it because
• 26:55
  not a lot. I feel like it's underrated.
• 26:57
  People don't talk about because this is my first life.
• 27:00
  So I was like, you know what, I'm just going to put it on.
• 27:04
  And as soon as I put it on, I was like, I took like such a
• 27:08
  deep sigh that I was like. Oh.
• 27:10
  My God I missed it like I missed the show.
• 27:13
  I loved rewatching it. I was not skipping over parts
• 27:17
  like I usually do if I rewatch a show.
• 27:21
  I was incredibly invested in all of their stories all over again.
• 27:25
  It was like watching it anew. And the show is as much about
• 27:30
  being true to yourself as searching for a place of your
• 27:34
  own, a home, belongingness. These are big themes in the show
• 27:40
  as much as the slow burn romance and answering questions like do
• 27:45
  marriage, What? What is marriage and are
• 27:48
  marriage and love the same? Exact.
• 27:51
  Yeah. And it really goes in depth with
• 27:53
  that because it like it even was bringing up questions I've never
• 27:56
  like thought about before because it's like, yeah, you can
• 27:59
  date someone, but but if you're like alignment on like your your
• 28:04
  marriage values and what you want to do in your future, like
• 28:06
  that's not going to work out. And so it's interesting when
• 28:08
  people say they're like they're dating just to date or they're
• 28:11
  dating for marriage and they really go in depth with that.
• 28:15
  Yeah, for sure. Also big like nods to other IP
• 28:22
  and sort of big like they're referencing 500 days days of
• 28:27
  summer at one point and I'm like 500 days of Summer is very
• 28:31
  interesting movie in and of itself that deals with very
• 28:35
  different but cool concepts about love and like projecting
• 28:41
  your feelings onto somebody else.
• 28:43
  And who is the who's at fault for a relationship crashing and
• 28:47
  burning? Was it even a relationship to
• 28:49
  begin with when people have stated what they are expecting
• 28:54
  and what they their standards are for this relationship?
• 28:58
  Like I'm not looking for anything serious.
• 29:00
  OK, then why? Why is this person catching
• 29:03
  feelings and thinking that it's more serious than it is when the
• 29:06
  other person clearly said so? It's like very similar.
• 29:09
  It's a wonderful pull for them to invoke 500 Days of summer.
• 29:13
  They invoke The Graduate very heavily in the show.
• 29:17
  And I don't know if people listening have watched The
• 29:20
  Graduate, but that's a very classic.
• 29:24
  I think 70s or 60s movie. No, it's not 60s.
• 29:28
  It's definitely no. Now I need to look it up because
• 29:31
  but anyway, they specifically are referencing the bus scene at
• 29:36
  the end of the Graduate, which multiple times they're looking,
• 29:41
  they're doing that in the show of them sitting in the back of
• 29:45
  the bus, very similar to the staging in The Graduate, which
• 29:48
  the Graduate came out in 1967. So I stand corrected 60s, but I
• 29:55
  think it's interesting to look at she references kind of how
• 29:59
  she felt about the movie when she was younger and didn't
• 30:02
  understand the movie. And then she re watches it later
• 30:06
  in life and she's like, there's something here that I didn't
• 30:10
  read before in the bus scene. And I love it.
• 30:14
  I love that she's kind of re evaluating the the romanticized
• 30:21
  portions of her life in the media that she consumes.
• 30:26
  And that's growth, right? Like that's people just growing
• 30:29
  up and maturing and realizing like, I totally had a misreading
• 30:32
  of The Graduate when I was younger and thought it was
• 30:36
  romantic for Dustin Hoffman's character to break up this
• 30:39
  girl's wedding. And then afterward they're
• 30:42
  sitting on the bus and they're like, what now?
• 30:44
  And there's this emptiness between them.
• 30:46
  Not love. Yeah.
• 30:48
  So it's Gary probing. I think the whole show is
• 30:53
  extremely probing. I loved all of the voice overs.
• 30:55
  Sometimes I get sick of voice overs and cake drama where I'm
• 30:58
  like, Oh my God, they're just talking just to talk.
• 31:00
  But these voice overs are incredibly important because
• 31:04
  they're musing about life and the situation and what you just
• 31:09
  watched and you're like, it's putting it into perspective for
• 31:13
  the audience. And it feels extremely authentic
• 31:16
  for someone to have these conversations with themselves.
• 31:19
  Especially 'cause, you know, her job is like dramas and like
• 31:23
  film. And so it like looping back to
• 31:26
  that, you know, you're like, wow, like this is really going
• 31:29
  in details about specific like her interests and stuff like
• 31:32
  that. Yeah.
• 31:33
  And I think it's really neat that they do that.
• 31:35
  And I think they do a great job at doing that.
• 31:38
  So the last time we talked about sexual harassment in the
• 31:42
  workplace was on the Something in the Rain episode with
• 31:45
  Caitlin. That was the first time she ever
• 31:48
  came on the show, and it was a lot of fun.
• 31:51
  You can scroll back in your podcast feed to hear that
• 31:52
  episode. But the sexual harassment in
• 31:56
  Because This is My First Life is really incredible.
• 32:01
  And I found it such a compelling part of the one of the BFS Suji,
• 32:07
  her story. Did you have thoughts about that
• 32:10
  as well? Or were you kind of like, Oh my
• 32:13
  God, it's so uncomfortable, I don't know.
• 32:15
  I did actually. So I think in a lot of dramas
• 32:21
  they don't. I mean it, it depends.
• 32:23
  Some go deep into topics that normally aren't really discussed
• 32:27
  and then some do a very good job, you know, discussing these
• 32:30
  serious topics that a lot of people don't talk about.
• 32:33
  And I think they did a very good job, like talking, like, not
• 32:37
  necessarily talking about, but showing the sexual harassment in
• 32:40
  the workplace, but also like showing that it can happen to
• 32:45
  like, 'cause like, is this a spoiler if I say what happened?
• 32:50
  I don't know. I don't want to spoil it.
• 32:52
  OK, we'll leave. It for spoilers, but I guess OK
• 32:55
  I you I understand what you're saying that they gave it I think
• 33:00
  a lot of space and it was obviously very uncomfortable to
• 33:03
  watch. But I think on 2nd watch, I
• 33:07
  maybe I'm more desensitized, but I was like, this is definitely
• 33:10
  sexual harassment, but I think I was kind of muddled on the
• 33:15
  stakes for her character for a lot of it.
• 33:18
  And the first time I watched the show was like like boiling
• 33:23
  inside because I was so mad at what was transpiring at work.
• 33:28
  And 'cause she's obviously nobody deserves that be sexual
• 33:33
  harass, sexually harassed in the workplace.
• 33:36
  But it seems so commonplace. Yeah, in.
• 33:41
  Korea, yeah. And they make it so it's it's
• 33:44
  not like, you know, obviously everyone's like not pointing and
• 33:48
  being like, Oh my gosh, that's terrible.
• 33:49
  It's just a normal thing. And then that makes you think
• 33:52
  like, this is something that's common.
• 33:54
  This is a common thing that they're touching on that they're
• 33:57
  they're showing in the show and sad.
• 34:01
  It's so sad, especially when this, no, not a spoiler, but
• 34:06
  when she has like a breakdown when she's walking, Oh my gosh,
• 34:11
  so hard. It's really hard.
• 34:14
  So that character, I, I found her so compelling, not just the
• 34:19
  female lead, but her best friends and Suji in particular,
• 34:22
  who is like the tall, elegant, take no shit from anybody type
• 34:27
  of character. And she's the one who's
• 34:30
  experiencing the sexual harassment in the workplace cuz
• 34:32
  she's a really successful professional.
• 34:37
  And then yeah. And then the other friend who
• 34:40
  has this seven-year relationship that I had a lot of thoughts
• 34:46
  this time around. I almost want to leave it too
• 34:48
  for the spoiler section but like.
• 34:50
  No, me too. OK, good.
• 34:52
  I had. Maybe because I watched this so
• 34:55
  many years ago, what, 4 plus of seven years ago.
• 35:00
  I was in my 20s at the time and like, I just have a very
• 35:03
  different perspective. I I was upset definitely at
• 35:06
  their story. The first time I watched it, it
• 35:09
  was highly upsetting. But this time around I was like,
• 35:12
  I had so much less tolerance for it.
• 35:15
  I don't know what you Yeah, same.
• 35:17
  OK, no, I was the exact same. We'll talk about it in the
• 35:19
  spoilers 'cause I I wrote like a whole thing of notes about their
• 35:23
  specific arc 'cause there's so much, there's so much we have to
• 35:27
  Oh my God, breakdown with. Them.
• 35:29
  Yeah. The last thing I'll say is I
• 35:32
  really appreciated how the show sort of delved into how even
• 35:37
  couples who live together needs time apart and their own space
• 35:42
  to unwind, be themselves and have kind of like secrets.
• 35:49
  You know, you can keep some parts of yourself to yourself.
• 35:52
  You don't have to share every single thing with your partner.
• 35:56
  And they referred to this by AI. Think it was a book that the
• 36:02
  female lead had called like in room 19 or something.
• 36:06
  Yeah. Room 19, Yeah.
• 36:07
  But the room 19 kind of just represents this space that is
• 36:12
  uniquely yours. You're not sharing it with
• 36:14
  somebody else, and you can do whatever the hell you want in
• 36:18
  this room 19. And it turns into a metaphorical
• 36:23
  like everybody has a room 19 in their own lives topics that you
• 36:27
  don't want to talk about that are sensitive.
• 36:30
  And it could be just your own history or it could just be a
• 36:34
  hobby. Like I need time to myself to.
• 36:39
  I think the term we would use now is self-care.
• 36:42
  Yeah. But back when I watched this, I
• 36:45
  didn't have of like a self-care. Self-care wasn't in the vocab in
• 36:49
  20/17/2018, so I like watching it now and coming back to it and
• 36:53
  thinking like the same thing that I thought then, but like
• 36:56
  with a little more vocab, I guess to back it up and be like,
• 36:59
  absolutely. Like mental health is so
• 37:02
  important and the way that people process information and
• 37:06
  need to. If you want the best you know,
• 37:11
  parts of them, that's fine, but sometimes people need space.
• 37:16
  Yeah, exactly. Mm hmm.
• 37:19
  So I thought that was really romantic and just so necessary
• 37:22
  to talk about the oh, sorry. This is the last thing I'll say
• 37:26
  is the patriarchy is so front and center in this show.
• 37:31
  Oh my gosh, I forgot how bad it went.
• 37:34
  Like and the first episode is just like they get right into
• 37:38
  it. The 1st 5 minutes it's like yeah
• 37:40
  I couldn't even blow up my own birthday candles.
• 37:42
  I'm like. What the hell?
• 37:44
  Not remember this like it's insane how detailed they go into
• 37:49
  it and it's just keeps getting brought up.
• 37:51
  But it's it's just like in the background, but it's always
• 37:54
  there. And it's also like a key
• 37:55
  component as to why she is the way that she is and she she
• 38:00
  thinks her life has to go a certain way.
• 38:02
  Yeah, and same for him, because his family is also super
• 38:06
  patriarchal and how he bucks that is a it's a direct result
• 38:11
  of things that happened in his life, which we get into later in
• 38:14
  the show. We find out later why he feels
• 38:16
  certain ways and why he has so much respect for the male, the
• 38:20
  female lead in the show. It's basically a trauma
• 38:24
  response, but the patriarchy and the like, misogynistic
• 38:32
  undertones of a lot of stuff and like the the highly gendered
• 38:37
  functions of the household where like the women should quit their
• 38:41
  jobs to be a homemaker. That's so crazy.
• 38:46
  And they're like questioning why the, you know, the male lead
• 38:50
  would make kimchi. Why should he do he it's OK.
• 38:55
  Like the women folk will do that.
• 38:57
  We sit here and drink all day and then they cook for us later
• 39:01
  in the evening. That's your function.
• 39:04
  And he's like, no, no, no, I'm going to make the kimchi.
• 39:06
  Like all of this is very not subtle in the in the show.
• 39:13
  I would, I would say, and I picked up on it way more.
• 39:16
  Now it might be just like the where I am in my life that I'm
• 39:19
  like, this is so not OK. And I love that the writer and
• 39:26
  the director and obviously the cast were so on board with
• 39:29
  tackling these really big issues.
• 39:32
  I always feel like K dramas are more, sometimes more progressive
• 39:37
  than Korean cinema because Korean cinema is still a boys
• 39:41
  club. I would say.
• 39:43
  Like, there's certainly, obviously you have female
• 39:45
  actresses and you have some screenwriters, but like, are
• 39:48
  there really famous female directors that you can look back
• 39:52
  on? Are there really feminist Korean
• 39:55
  cinema movies that you can really say like, this was
• 39:59
  tackling so many issues in such a nuanced way?
• 40:02
  I feel like K dramas, because they're written by women,
• 40:04
  sometimes even directed by women, the audience is for
• 40:09
  women, right? Like I don't feel like K dramas
• 40:11
  have necessarily been created for men, the male audience.
• 40:17
  You have these explorations of topics, social issues in Korea
• 40:23
  that is amazing to see on screen, and it's exported.
• 40:28
  And then we get it. We're getting it second hand,
• 40:29
  right? Like we we'd certainly live in a
• 40:31
  patriarchal society, but it's not what they have.
• 40:35
  You know what I'm saying? It's crazy.
• 40:37
  It's crazy to see it, and it's crazy to see how some Cage
• 40:41
  dramas are really ahead of the curve.
• 40:44
  Yeah. And and they, like I said, they
• 40:46
  portray it so well too. So it's like you get a better
• 40:49
  understanding of kind of what a day in the life is like with
• 40:53
  just watching that. And the sexism, the sexism is so
• 40:56
  bad. Rampant.
• 40:59
  It's bad blood boiling some of these scenes and I'm just like,
• 41:03
  that's awful. It's awful.
• 41:04
  So we both adore the show apparently, and I'm so glad even
• 41:09
  if you didn't, I was going to, I was going to sing it's praise.
• 41:11
  I would be like, this is so good, so underrated.
• 41:14
  But I'm so glad that you also loved it, Becky, And it was a
• 41:18
  nice rewatch for you, even if you kind of were kind of hoping
• 41:22
  for the ramp up a little quicker for the couple.
• 41:24
  But it's certainly a slow burn. But I almost feel like from the
• 41:28
  get go, you're like, there's something here, you know what
• 41:32
  I'm saying? Yeah, there's I I specifically
• 41:36
  right when you said that I thought about the hand holding
• 41:38
  scene. And.
• 41:41
  That was that scene is like I'm turning engraved in my memory
• 41:46
  because are you kidding me? Whoever wrote that scene, yes
• 41:51
  they get it. They.
• 41:52
  Understand. They understand.
• 41:53
  Yes, the female gaze. All right, so without further
• 41:57
  ado, I think we're going to get into the spoiler section.
• 41:59
  But before we do, what would you give the show out of five whole
• 42:02
  2 bottles? OK so after rewatching it I feel
• 42:08
  like when I first watched it I was like 5 out of five.
• 42:10
  Absolutely. But now I feel since I have
• 42:13
  specific feelings about some of the characters, maybe like a 4.5
• 42:17
  out of five, maybe a four out of five, because rewatching it
• 42:21
  definitely made me realize, like some of the characters that I
• 42:25
  first really was like, Oh my gosh, I'm like, hold on a
• 42:27
  minute, That's a bit. So yeah, let's do 4.5 out of
• 42:31
  five. Oh my God, but that's super
• 42:33
  high. Super high. 4 1/2 soldier
• 42:35
  bottles out of five is still really high to me.
• 42:37
  I did like it, I love it. I would do the same score, maybe
• 42:41
  even push it to A5 because the rewatch was so pleasant to me.
• 42:46
  It was so comforting. This is a comfort drama for me,
• 42:49
  and everyone's comfort dramas are going to be different.
• 42:51
  Everyone has slightly different criteria for comfort dramas.
• 42:55
  But for me, like, I didn't realize it was a comfort drama
• 42:58
  until I pressed play on episode one again and I was like, Oh my
• 43:02
  God, I just feel like I'm home. Yeah, it's so good.
• 43:07
  It's so good. Even the highly upsetting parts.
• 43:09
  I'm like, it's all right. Like I like.
• 43:13
  Yeah, I love the main couple. It's fine.
• 43:16
  It's so good, so same score, maybe even higher for me.
• 43:21
  So we're going to get into the spoiler section right after
• 43:23
  this. If you do not care to be
• 43:26
  spoiled, then keep listening. If you want to go and watch this
• 43:29
  show even after some of the slightly spoiler things we've
• 43:32
  said, please do and come back later and finish this episode
• 43:36
  finishing out with us. All right, see you on the other
• 43:39
  side. You want to come in?
• 43:48
  All right, we are on the other side of spoilers.
• 43:50
  Anything goes. We're going to spoil the show,
• 43:52
  just so you know. All right, where do you want to
• 43:55
  start first, Becky? Because you mentioned a little
• 43:57
  bit of episode one where she says she never blew out a
• 44:01
  birthday candle and she's been living under the patriarchy and
• 44:06
  her dad is this machismo who would declare like, let's eat
• 44:12
  and plunge his fork into her birthday cake and eat a giant
• 44:16
  chunk of it straight from there like an animal.
• 44:21
  And no one is saying shit to him.
• 44:23
  No one's stopping him saying like, let her make a wish first
• 44:27
  or let's slice the cake like human beings.
• 44:31
  It's all on his timing and she didn't get to do a birthday wish
• 44:35
  or eat her cake first or anything until she turned 2020
• 44:41
  years old and that was jarring. And if you think about that,
• 44:47
  like how she's been living as like the daughter, like how do
• 44:50
  you think the wife's been living?
• 44:52
  Like it's, it's crazy to think about.
• 44:55
  And then especially like in the first episode, it talks about
• 44:58
  how she's the one who put the down payment on the House, but
• 45:02
  she doesn't, she doesn't get it because she's a woman.
• 45:05
  Look, look, look. And the men had to sign for the
• 45:08
  Oh, don't. It's giving.
• 45:11
  I can't, I can't, I can't vote. I can't like, take out a credit
• 45:14
  card in my own name. I can't own my own home.
• 45:18
  It's giving like the women's movement never happened.
• 45:22
  Is very frustrating to watch the first couple of episodes and see
• 45:26
  her like struggling against the patriarchy and trying to carve
• 45:30
  out her own life and pursue her own dreams and you're like,
• 45:34
  girl, you are stuck. Like it's bad.
• 45:38
  And even like with there's like this specific scene where she
• 45:43
  tells the brother's fiance or wife, I don't, I think that.
• 45:48
  Yeah, it was a was that his fiance and.
• 45:53
  I think, I think it was fiance, yeah.
• 45:56
  And they were gonna get married. She's like, you can still stay
• 46:00
  in the house. That's okay.
• 46:01
  And she lays it down for her. She's like, you are pregnant,
• 46:05
  you are not gonna do any cleaning.
• 46:06
  Who's the one that's gonna do the cleaning?
• 46:08
  Like your husbands or fiance is at work all day.
• 46:11
  I'm gonna be stuck with all your chores.
• 46:13
  I'm gonna be stuck with taking care of the kid.
• 46:15
  I'm gonna not be living for myself.
• 46:16
  I'm gonna be living in this house like for you guys.
• 46:20
  And that's just not how she wants to live.
• 46:22
  And I really appreciate how respectful she was with that
• 46:25
  because even telling her that she's like, you're young, you
• 46:28
  don't understand. I wish you like, I wish you guys
• 46:32
  the best and like, here's some money by yourself, like some
• 46:35
  good meat. And I love how like, like I
• 46:38
  said, respectful she was with that 'cause she could have been
• 46:40
  like. I would have roasted her.
• 46:42
  Like, yeah, she could have, she could have been like, I put the
• 46:44
  down payment on this house, but because of my gender, you guys
• 46:48
  get this house and you guys get to like, I have to struggle and
• 46:51
  not have a place to live. And then and then it just, it
• 46:55
  feels so bad to watch everything tumble apart because like, at
• 46:58
  first, you know, she really likes her job and you can see
• 47:01
  she's very happy. And then everything just kind of
• 47:03
  gets ripped away from her. And it is so sad.
• 47:06
  It's. Unfair.
• 47:07
  It's so unfair. It's so unfair.
• 47:09
  Job she was the assistant drama writer on for five years, she
• 47:14
  said. And she's now 30 years old.
• 47:16
  So she's dedicated half of her 20s to this job and she's been
• 47:23
  writing under this bitch. Like this lady is the head
• 47:27
  writer menace, a menace to society.
• 47:31
  She was changing her. Stuff, yes.
• 47:34
  Well, though she worked with her sister writer for five years and
• 47:37
  she was mostly putting product placement into the episodes and
• 47:41
  writing subplots. That's what she said.
• 47:43
  She she could write a subplot at this point.
• 47:45
  And they cut to some of the dramas, like I think it was one
• 47:50
  drama that she was working on. And you have a cameo from the
• 47:54
  lead on Let's Eat. I think his name is Yundojun.
• 48:01
  He's from the K Pop group highlight slash Beast, Do you
• 48:06
  know? OK.
• 48:07
  I don't think I know who you're talking about.
• 48:08
  Oh my God, I love him. So he's in.
• 48:09
  Let's see, he gets a giant cameo in this episode because they're
• 48:14
  playing out the scenario that she's writing and you cut to the
• 48:20
  head writer boss lady, and she just has no idea who the man,
• 48:24
  the female lead is. She doesn't care to learn about
• 48:27
  her. She's like she says, oh, you
• 48:31
  live on the West side of town, right?
• 48:33
  No, she lives on the east side of town.
• 48:36
  She's been working and living in this studio slash house thing
• 48:41
  where the head writer lives for a month.
• 48:44
  No, that's wrong. She's really been there for
• 48:46
  three months. Three months.
• 48:48
  That's right. But the lady thinks it's only
• 48:50
  about a month. Like how?
• 48:52
  She gets everything wrong. She's like, oh, don't you live
• 48:54
  with their older sister? And she's like, no, I live with
• 48:56
  my younger brother. She could not be more wrong
• 48:59
  about she does not care about her at all.
• 49:01
  She. Doesn't and it's and it hurts
• 49:03
  later on. Because.
• 49:05
  She makes it seem like she cares when things go wrong for her.
• 49:09
  When the girl finally starts sticking up for herself and
• 49:12
  being like no, I'm not going to. And then she's she is like, I'm
• 49:16
  here for you. Let's go get.
• 49:18
  Coffee and Ally. You think she's actually bonding
• 49:21
  with? Her to the person that hurt her
• 49:24
  the most, like what a terrible woman we're.
• 49:27
  Going to circle back on this woman and the inciting incident
• 49:31
  that makes her quit being a writer.
• 49:33
  But the younger brother in the apartment is just this.
• 49:38
  The apartment is in disarray. Like it's super disgusting.
• 49:43
  And despite saying over the phone to her friend, she was
• 49:47
  like, I'm going to go and take a hot shower and get in my bed and
• 49:51
  sleep in my bed. I can't wait to do like relax
• 49:53
  finally. Because she's been living out of
• 49:55
  a suitcase for three months trying to do all of this last
• 49:58
  minute shit on the script that they were working on.
• 50:01
  And she walks in, it's a pigsty. And she begins to clean up the
• 50:06
  apartment. She cleans up his mess.
• 50:08
  Like he doesn't give a shit about her.
• 50:10
  He's never cleaned anything in his life.
• 50:13
  He's just entitled because the father is just basically told
• 50:17
  him like you are the guy, you're gonna be in charge of this,
• 50:20
  you're gonna and and so he has this entitlement that he thinks
• 50:23
  he doesn't need to contribute. It's awful.
• 50:27
  Because she wasn't there for three months, you think he was
• 50:30
  mopping the floors and cleaning his dishes and making sure the
• 50:33
  apartment was at? No, he was like, oh, she'll deal
• 50:36
  with this when she gets back. I was like so offended by the
• 50:39
  brother I was like he doesn't give a shit about her at all.
• 50:42
  So rude and if it was a partner I would have been like leave
• 50:45
  him, leave him immediately. Her just walking in on them
• 50:50
  being romantic. Yeah, like.
• 50:52
  I mean, I get like, she's like, I don't want to live there
• 50:55
  anymore, obviously, because she has that like Prince of her
• 50:58
  brother and his. Mid coitus, Mid coitus.
• 51:02
  I can't believe it. So she, yeah, she walks in on
• 51:04
  them having sex and she's completely freaked out.
• 51:06
  She runs out of the apartment with her slippers on, her house
• 51:10
  slippers on, and he catches up to her.
• 51:13
  The brother catches up to her. And he's like, you need to come
• 51:15
  back inside and, like, say your greetings to the naked girl
• 51:18
  because, oh, 'cause she's his wife of four months.
• 51:22
  Yeah. And I was like, hold the phone.
• 51:24
  Hold the phone right now. She's been gone for three
• 51:27
  months. So that means he married her
• 51:30
  while she was still in the house, like living in the house
• 51:33
  with him for a month. They were married then.
• 51:36
  He was like, oh, perfect, she's on an assignment for three
• 51:38
  months. Come live with me in the house.
• 51:42
  Yeah. And then we can just take the.
• 51:43
  House. We can just take the house.
• 51:44
  My name and father will prove so awful.
• 51:48
  Literally. Awful.
• 51:49
  The dad. Her dad treats the
• 51:50
  daughter-in-law better than his own daughter like this.
• 51:54
  And then the sister-in-law. She kisses up.
• 51:56
  She is kissing. She kisses up to.
• 51:59
  Him kiss her so I hate it so annoying.
• 52:01
  It's so annoying. It's like see her be like oh and
• 52:05
  push like the plate of fish closer to him on the table.
• 52:08
  Like like, yeah, ridiculous, trying to ingratiate herself,
• 52:12
  but then like. Why?
• 52:14
  Like you said, she has the the female lead, Chung Sumen, has to
• 52:19
  move out of the house because it's in her brother's name.
• 52:24
  The dad did that, and in Korea that's commonplace.
• 52:29
  Even though she paid the deposit and all the expenses, he's been
• 52:33
  mooching off of her because he's still a student.
• 52:38
  I was like, ready to set the house on fire.
• 52:40
  I was like, oh, nobody's going to get the house now because.
• 52:44
  It was so. Bad.
• 52:46
  So aggravating. And then not to mention like how
• 52:49
  you were saying how he treats the daughter-in-law to how he
• 52:53
  treats his own daughter, like in the same situation, except she's
• 52:56
  not pregnant, right? She's gonna be getting married.
• 53:00
  He's like, I'm sorry she lacks so much.
• 53:03
  I'm sorry, she's not adequate to be a daughter-in-law Saying that
• 53:08
  too. She.
• 53:10
  Or her husband's like family. What a terrible this is.
• 53:14
  Later, later on the show, like for those who.
• 53:16
  Are saying I got angry. It's no, it's fine.
• 53:18
  But this is a little later when they are finally the families
• 53:21
  have met and I think it's their their wedding day is what
• 53:25
  you're. Referring to no.
• 53:26
  It's fine, it's fine. It's just terrible.
• 53:28
  It is terrible because the dad, Oh my God.
• 53:31
  Anyway, so everyone forgets her birthday.
• 53:34
  So there's a 16 Candles scenario in here as well, because all
• 53:38
  this is going on. It's her birthday.
• 53:39
  Yeah, it's terrible. Everyone forgets that it's her
• 53:44
  birthday and only her mom remembers and serves her seaweed
• 53:49
  soup late at night and is on her side.
• 53:51
  Like, she gives her some deposit money because she's a housewife,
• 53:55
  But because she's a housewife with no concept of, like, what
• 53:59
  things got, she saved up like, too little.
• 54:03
  So it's not nearly enough to get her another place.
• 54:09
  I have so many, like I just like the first episode is so good
• 54:14
  because things are moving really fast, but it is again like the
• 54:18
  patriarch is just beating her down.
• 54:21
  It is and it's hard to watch. It really is.
• 54:24
  You're just like, when does she get?
• 54:26
  When do things get better? Like I feel so bad for her and.
• 54:28
  Then only just gets worse. Oh man.
• 54:33
  But then she meets the male lead, I think at the end of the
• 54:36
  episode. Is that right?
• 54:38
  She meets him. She.
• 54:39
  She meets him and. No.
• 54:42
  At the no, they meet at the party because he's he's at he's
• 54:45
  there for another thing. So I love that they made us so
• 54:49
  painfully aware of how socially awkward he is because from the
• 54:53
  get go, people like they're having a sensitive private
• 54:56
  conversation where like you think this man's going to
• 54:59
  confess and then he's like, hello, please move.
• 55:02
  And they're like, what? And then and then she sees him
• 55:05
  watching sports and then they have something in common.
• 55:08
  And so they end up watching sports together.
• 55:09
  I think it's really cute how he like opens up to her.
• 55:12
  And then from there, you know, she's thinking this guy, if we
• 55:16
  have something in common, he seems nice.
• 55:19
  And then that's why the bus stop scene happens, because she just
• 55:22
  feels kind of deflated after seeing, you know, the person
• 55:27
  that she has a crush on with someone else.
• 55:28
  And she's like, I'll never find love.
• 55:30
  And then she's like, hey, there's the bus stop guy.
• 55:31
  And then he says some things that comfort her.
• 55:34
  She's like, yeah, I'm just gonna go for it.
• 55:36
  I'm just gonna give him a kiss. Why not?
• 55:37
  I'm never gonna kiss someone in my life, so might as well just
• 55:40
  kiss a stranger. Right.
• 55:41
  So lots of things happening here because she has a crush on the
• 55:44
  director of the drama that they just wrapped on and it's a
• 55:48
  young, hot like director. Or flirts with her and he's
• 55:52
  flirting with her. He's definitely leading her on.
• 55:55
  And so there's this moment in this restaurant or parlor or
• 55:59
  whatever where they're by the bathrooms, and you think that
• 56:02
  this director dude is going to confess to her.
• 56:05
  But that's when the male lead comes in and he's like, squeeze
• 56:08
  me, Can you move and interrupt their flow?
• 56:11
  So then later on, yeah. So then later on, she's outside
• 56:16
  just kind of catching her breath and the male lead is outside
• 56:19
  watching soccer, I think an Arsenal game on his phone,
• 56:22
  'cause they're fans of Arsenal, both of them.
• 56:24
  And she's watching over his shoulder.
• 56:26
  They have like this good moment of or establishing rapport.
• 56:29
  And then she looks over just as she's talking about this crush
• 56:33
  that she has on the sky and sees the direct, the young director
• 56:37
  dude walking around outside and canoodling with another woman.
• 56:42
  And the other woman is not just anybody.
• 56:44
  It's the female lead from the show that they've just wrapped.
• 56:47
  It's. Crazy.
• 56:50
  So it's not like it was some other woman.
• 56:51
  It was like the the female lead of the show that they had just
• 56:57
  wrapped. That like hits.
• 56:59
  Her it hurts. It hurts so hard because he's
• 57:02
  been flirting and leading her on for years it seems like.
• 57:05
  So she's feeling extremely deflated like you said, and they
• 57:09
  meet up at the her and the male lead even keep meet up at the
• 57:13
  bus stop later. And he basically kind of
• 57:16
  comforts her. And I have this whole thing that
• 57:20
  he it's like this whole monologue about the neocortex.
• 57:25
  Do you remember him talking to her about that?
• 57:28
  And later on to your first time, it's like, oh, like the
• 57:30
  neocortex guy. So he talks about cats don't
• 57:36
  have a neocortex, even though they eat the same food everyday
• 57:40
  are the are in the same house everyday living each day to the
• 57:42
  same. They don't feel depressed or
• 57:44
  bored. To them, time is only the
• 57:46
  current moment. Because I'm, I'll be, I'm 30 and
• 57:53
  because I'll be 40 soon. Like the only species that
• 57:56
  confines itself to partitions of time like that is the human
• 57:59
  race, human species. Only humans attack age as a
• 58:03
  weakness and spend money on it, and it causes them to spend
• 58:06
  emotions is the price we pay for having an evolved neocortex.
• 58:10
  So he's basically kind of giving her some perspective and it's
• 58:14
  comforting her in a weird way. Because he's peculiar way.
• 58:17
  Peculiar way you could tell he's like super robotic and very
• 58:22
  socially awkward but before she gets on the bus she just goes
• 58:29
  for it and like kisses this dude.
• 58:32
  So silly. It's so silly but I remember
• 58:35
  watching it and be like Oh my God I forgot to.
• 58:39
  And, and she asks him for cuz I think he's gonna get a taxi.
• 58:42
  Like she asked him to go on the bus, but like he's, she's like,
• 58:46
  can you take the bus or something?
• 58:47
  So then they're sitting there and they're being awkward.
• 58:49
  And then she kisses him and gets on the bus.
• 58:51
  He's just still. Standing there not getting.
• 58:53
  On the bus. It's not a bad kiss either, like
• 58:57
  I remember being, not that's it. She went in.
• 59:00
  OK, I mean, not tongue or anything, but I'm just like no,
• 59:03
  she that wasn't. Her first kiss.
• 59:05
  I know because the other thing we haven't touched on is that
• 59:09
  she hasn't had any experience dating.
• 59:12
  She has never been kissed. I would.
• 59:15
  So this is like she's almost like I'm getting old.
• 59:18
  I need to like do something about this because I'm so
• 59:23
  frustrated. I can't read the room even.
• 59:25
  I can't even. I'm still in this realm of
• 59:29
  getting crushed by a crush. And it's like she probably is
• 59:33
  like, you know, I'm so old, like, why am I feeling these
• 59:36
  feelings right now? I haven't even experienced love
• 59:38
  and I'm feeling heartbreak like, you know, and, and so it, it
• 59:42
  goes into that a lot. And I really, it doesn't really
• 59:46
  touch around the fact that she's like lonely, but it's there.
• 59:50
  Like you see it in some of the scenes that like it's, it's
• 59:54
  just, it's kind of hidden, the scenes.
• 59:56
  For sure. For sure in episode 2 I hated
• 1:00:00
  this too because she. Gets with the director again,
• 1:00:04
  the sleazeball director because he's like, oh, I want you to
• 1:00:08
  write this new drama and it'll be her first head writing gig.
• 1:00:14
  And when they go into that meeting with the director and
• 1:00:19
  the PD, the head writer bitch comes in the room too and like.
• 1:00:26
  It changes everything. It changes everything because it
• 1:00:29
  means they've been going behind her back to hire the head writer
• 1:00:33
  to Co write this show with her and.
• 1:00:36
  It's not her work, it's it's her trying to like first of all,
• 1:00:40
  take someone else's work and change it and warp it around,
• 1:00:43
  but also put on a label as it's hers.
• 1:00:46
  Like she came up with the idea, she came up with the concepts
• 1:00:48
  and that is so rude and. Disrespectful.
• 1:00:50
  It's so unethical. It's so unethical.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah, disrespectful and awful and just it's such a snake like
• 1:01:00
  behavior. So when she comes in the room,
• 1:01:01
  like the air gets sucked out of the room.
• 1:01:03
  Like I remember gasping OK the guest that I guessed when that
• 1:01:08
  bitch walked in the room, I was like, Oh my God, no they didn't.
• 1:01:11
  She just gets blindsided or like Joseph's character is completely
• 1:01:15
  blindsided. Then the bitch says oh I have
• 1:01:18
  all these notes and changes and she's just completely over
• 1:01:21
  overridden her story, her setup. And yeah, she like speaks up for
• 1:01:29
  herself in the room, which I really loved that she finally
• 1:01:32
  did that because you have to imagine how many years this has
• 1:01:35
  been happening where she didn't speak up for herself because of
• 1:01:38
  how she was raised. Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  And she speaks up for herself. It's good.
• 1:01:43
  And then, like, I, I feel this is where I get so sad because
• 1:01:46
  she finally, through all the finally speaks up for herself.
• 1:01:50
  It's like, no, I don't like that.
• 1:01:52
  That's not my writing. That's not what I wrote.
• 1:01:54
  And gets blindsided once again because it's no one's on her
• 1:02:00
  team, like no one is on her team.
• 1:02:02
  And they pretend they're on her team.
• 1:02:04
  And then when something happens where they need her to be on the
• 1:02:07
  team, where they, they, they need her, they pretend.
• 1:02:10
  And it's so hurtful and it's I hated them.
• 1:02:14
  I'm so glad she, she made the decision to.
• 1:02:18
  I mean, we're talking about spoilers.
• 1:02:19
  No, it's all spoilers territory. She.
• 1:02:21
  Left the company. She leaves the production.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah, Yeah. She just, she offends the head
• 1:02:28
  writer in this meeting. The young director wants her to
• 1:02:31
  apologize, the sleazeball director.
• 1:02:35
  And he eventually, like that night I believe, he shows up
• 1:02:39
  drunk to the little closet room he hooked her up with and tries
• 1:02:44
  to sexually assault her. That is the inciting incident
• 1:02:47
  that makes her completely wash her hands of the production,
• 1:02:52
  wash her hands of writing entirely.
• 1:02:54
  She's like, I'm quitting writing.
• 1:02:57
  And in that moment after she like, shoves her because he's
• 1:03:01
  drunk. So she manages to shove him off
• 1:03:04
  of her. And she says the worst thing
• 1:03:08
  about him is not that he let her on for three years while he had
• 1:03:11
  a girlfriend. And it's not that he messed with
• 1:03:13
  her work, but that this is the only place she has to sleep.
• 1:03:19
  And he came in and kicked her out like he ruined it.
• 1:03:23
  She just wanted to sleep because she had this crazy meeting
• 1:03:27
  earlier where she basically quits the her own project, her
• 1:03:32
  first head writing project. And like it, he comes in like
• 1:03:36
  fucks it up. Like he literally could not
• 1:03:38
  have. She's chosen a worse time to do
• 1:03:41
  it. Yeah.
• 1:03:42
  And then before that, I mean, doesn't the, the guys 'cause
• 1:03:46
  they're roommates? Well, we, I mean, oh, we skipped
• 1:03:48
  over this whole thing. We skipped over a lot.
• 1:03:51
  There was like a miscommunication thing where
• 1:03:54
  even Keith's character is looking for a roommate,
• 1:03:56
  obviously a male roommate. And then she's also looking for
• 1:03:58
  a place to live because now she got kicked out of that
• 1:04:01
  apartment. Her brother and his wife are
• 1:04:04
  taking over that so frustrating, but that apartment.
• 1:04:08
  So she's looking for a place to live and her friend says all of
• 1:04:12
  this, this place that's looking for a roommate, this landlord is
• 1:04:18
  looking for a tenant. And obviously she thinks it's a
• 1:04:21
  female landlord. I think they have different
• 1:04:24
  schedules, so it's crazy because they go days without seeing
• 1:04:28
  each, right. But like he has strict rules.
• 1:04:30
  And you even see like when he first has a meeting with his old
• 1:04:34
  roommate, he's like, you have to make sure you feed the cat.
• 1:04:36
  You have to make sure you do the recyclables.
• 1:04:38
  You have to make sure you do this, this, this, this.
• 1:04:40
  And like guy roommates, right? Normally they're really sloppy
• 1:04:43
  and they aren't going to follow your rules.
• 1:04:45
  And so like he has like a specific set.
• 1:04:48
  He even has like, not a graph. What is it?
• 1:04:51
  Yeah, I think it is a graph. That's like a whole thing.
• 1:04:54
  It's a graph of, of like, rating his roommates.
• 1:04:57
  Yeah. And she gets the highest score
• 1:04:59
  even though he hasn't met her. And then he realizes that it is
• 1:05:02
  the girl that kissed him at the bus stop.
• 1:05:04
  And things get a little more complicated, but they discuss
• 1:05:07
  how like, she's like, I don't like you like that.
• 1:05:10
  This isn't love. And then he's like, oh, wait,
• 1:05:12
  this works great. Like, OK, yeah, why not?
• 1:05:15
  And then his mother, I have to tell you, the family, the family
• 1:05:21
  really messed them up. I was every time his, like, his
• 1:05:25
  or her family came on screen, I was like, please just leave
• 1:05:29
  these poor babies alone. They just they don't need you.
• 1:05:32
  They just want to live peacefully.
• 1:05:35
  That's all they want. There's not even like an
• 1:05:38
  underlining meaning like that's what it is.
• 1:05:40
  And the mother is like, how can you have her live here if she's
• 1:05:43
  just gonna be your roommate? And that's when she ends up,
• 1:05:45
  like feeling awkward. I mean, like, I can't be here.
• 1:05:48
  But they had just they were just about to make agreement.
• 1:05:51
  To like, live together even though she's a girl and he's a
• 1:05:54
  guy. It took so long for him to be
• 1:05:57
  like. One and two, we're not even that
• 1:05:59
  deep in the show. It's like, why don't you, Oh my
• 1:06:01
  God, the mom just by the chance? That's when the mom says, oh,
• 1:06:04
  your dad will divorce me if you don't get married.
• 1:06:07
  If you don't get married. Insanity, insanity, insanity.
• 1:06:12
  I don't. I just don't get it.
• 1:06:14
  I don't, I mean, and I don't think I ever will get it, but I
• 1:06:16
  mean, it's crazy because there are parts in different countries
• 1:06:19
  where that is. That's a thing.
• 1:06:21
  Yeah. Still.
• 1:06:22
  I know. I know.
• 1:06:24
  And that's. So that it's like one thing
• 1:06:27
  after a hit after hit. And then I think that I love the
• 1:06:30
  conversation they have after the mom leaves, 'cause she's like
• 1:06:33
  trying to soften the blow, 'cause she was hiding during
• 1:06:36
  this whole conversation in the room.
• 1:06:38
  She was like hiding. She was like, she heard it all.
• 1:06:41
  So she heard it. And she says to him, all parents
• 1:06:45
  want what's best for their children, which is a nice dip
• 1:06:47
  diplomatic answer to his situation.
• 1:06:50
  And he says they are all alike in their selfishness, wanting to
• 1:06:55
  fulfill their own desires through their children.
• 1:06:59
  And that's true. What in a stunt observation?
• 1:07:02
  Like that's so true. I don't give a shit.
• 1:07:05
  Like they're doing this for them, not for me.
• 1:07:07
  I have nothing to do with it. It's all about their reputation,
• 1:07:10
  how they look in front of their friends and colleagues, how I
• 1:07:14
  can elevate them and the family name and just nothing to do with
• 1:07:20
  his happiness and what he wants out of life and them respecting
• 1:07:24
  his choices. And he just blasts through this
• 1:07:27
  really diplomatic answer that she gave us like, well, you
• 1:07:30
  know, parents want what's best for you.
• 1:07:31
  He's like, fuck that, no. Like, no, no, but she she still
• 1:07:36
  feels like she has to leave. And then that's why she gets in
• 1:07:40
  that situation with the director, which, oh, don't even
• 1:07:43
  get me started on that. Because can we just talk about
• 1:07:45
  the fact that like, first of all, right, this man that
• 1:07:48
  flirted with her for three years that she had a crush on, that
• 1:07:51
  she respected. Yeah, OK.
• 1:07:53
  She found out he has a thing and then.
• 1:07:56
  She still worked with him after that.
• 1:07:57
  She still is like, OK, like, he like, I still trust him, though,
• 1:08:02
  and I believe him to be a good friend.
• 1:08:04
  And then he's like, oh, I have a spot.
• 1:08:05
  You can sleep since you don't have anywhere to go.
• 1:08:07
  And then he shows up drunk and he's like, why'd you ruin
• 1:08:10
  everything and why are you? And then he's trying to take
• 1:08:12
  advantage of her. Yes.
• 1:08:14
  Tries to. This is like so heartbreaking
• 1:08:17
  because you have to think like, this is probably her only like
• 1:08:21
  guy friend that she's had for years and years that she's
• 1:08:24
  trusted and that she's looked up to.
• 1:08:27
  And he just, he just does that to her, makes her not want to
• 1:08:30
  write again and makes her quit production.
• 1:08:32
  Like it's it's so. And the way they portray it to
• 1:08:35
  like with what you said, her her whole thing about like, I just
• 1:08:38
  wanted a place to sleep. Yeah, her walking back on the
• 1:08:42
  highway in pajamas and breaking down it, it crushes your soul.
• 1:08:49
  Because this is something that like, I mean, like I said, I
• 1:08:53
  think they, they touch on this topic really well 'cause this is
• 1:08:56
  like, sadly can be a common thing just in the workplace and
• 1:09:00
  just like daily, daily life. Mm hmm.
• 1:09:03
  And it's so hard to even think about how much, you know, they
• 1:09:07
  go through and what they have to deal with and like in their
• 1:09:11
  minds, like psychologically like did I?
• 1:09:13
  Is it because I stood up for myself that this person is now
• 1:09:17
  thinking that they can you know and and it it.
• 1:09:20
  That they can treat me. Like this hard, it's so hard.
• 1:09:24
  And and I mean, they do that also with the side characters,
• 1:09:27
  like with the with the mango. But the thing I love what they
• 1:09:30
  do with her with her friend, the one that's very like strong
• 1:09:34
  willed and like very amazing and very good at her job, but she
• 1:09:38
  still is getting harassed at work constantly.
• 1:09:42
  It's I, I love when she finally finds someone like that has like
• 1:09:47
  they, they both care for each other and like each other.
• 1:09:50
  And he's like, you should be, you should try telling them your
• 1:09:54
  feelings and that this is not a good thing to do.
• 1:09:56
  And she's like, OK, yeah. And she tries it and it she
• 1:10:00
  realizes it's not going to work. And then.
• 1:10:03
  So this is one of the last three episodes or something of the
• 1:10:07
  show when Suji, the best friend, has this relationship with the
• 1:10:12
  CEO. He's adorable, by the way.
• 1:10:15
  Like I love them. He's so cute.
• 1:10:17
  They're so cute. So I, I really love the the
• 1:10:20
  side, the second couple, basically there's three couples
• 1:10:23
  in the show, but that's one of the couples.
• 1:10:26
  And yeah, he tells her like, basically to stop holding in her
• 1:10:30
  feelings and, you know, kind of serve it back to them in a very
• 1:10:36
  like, talk it out. Basically, man up and talk it
• 1:10:40
  out with these guys instead of just giving them the easy way
• 1:10:43
  out and diffusing the situation by not saying anything.
• 1:10:48
  And she goes, OK, it gives her strength because he's like, I
• 1:10:51
  think you can do this. Like you can stand up for
• 1:10:54
  yourself. So she does it.
• 1:10:57
  She tells the guy one-on-one, like, I need you to apologize
• 1:11:00
  for all your batshit sexual harassment behaviour.
• 1:11:03
  You've made my life here a living hell.
• 1:11:05
  For the past three years, we've worked together.
• 1:11:06
  She calculated how many hours they've worked together and
• 1:11:09
  stuff. And he goes, OK, yeah, I'll,
• 1:11:12
  I'll apologize. That was what she wanted.
• 1:11:13
  I want an apology from you, a public apologize apology.
• 1:11:18
  He. Works it into this toast that
• 1:11:21
  they were doing at A at a restaurant because they have a
• 1:11:25
  work dinner. And he's completely not
• 1:11:30
  apologized. Like he was like, yeah, and I'm
• 1:11:31
  sorry for whatever and whatever. He didn't know specifics.
• 1:11:35
  No sincerity. He's just trying to save face
• 1:11:40
  and do the bare fucking minimum to appease her and she gets so
• 1:11:46
  mad she blows a gasket. And I love the female rage.
• 1:11:52
  This is an accurate portrayal of female rage.
• 1:11:54
  It is, it is no, and it's a great, it's a great observation
• 1:11:58
  of it. Honestly, God, the female rage
• 1:12:00
  that comes from her because she's so it's like the clarity
• 1:12:04
  that comes in that moment to her and the like the wickedness that
• 1:12:10
  rages through her. I was like, yeah, this is so
• 1:12:12
  accurate, 'cause she was, he was the accuracy.
• 1:12:16
  Like she there was, she was seeing red, but it wasn't chaos.
• 1:12:20
  It was, it was order. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:12:22
  Yeah, yeah. She was like, you know what?
• 1:12:24
  I'm I'm done doing it the way that I I thought would work, and
• 1:12:27
  I'm going to do it my way now. And this is how it's going to.
• 1:12:30
  Go. So she basically becomes a
• 1:12:32
  predator in that moment. Maybe because she stalks him
• 1:12:35
  back to the office because they were, he was like, we're going
• 1:12:37
  to go for a second round, whatever, but I've got to do
• 1:12:39
  something at the office. So he goes back to the office by
• 1:12:42
  himself and she follows him like she stalks him, follows him.
• 1:12:46
  He has no idea by the way, he has no clue that she's there.
• 1:12:48
  He's drunk, he's drunk, he's kind of buzzed or whatever, and
• 1:12:51
  he just has no clue. So she's following him back to
• 1:12:54
  the office and she stands behind him at the elevator and he
• 1:13:00
  suddenly realizes that she's there and he's like, oh,
• 1:13:02
  whatever. He gets in the elevator and I
• 1:13:05
  just love the moment where she's just, it's so calm it.
• 1:13:09
  Is she's. She unbuttons her her coat as he
• 1:13:14
  the elevator doors open and the width the punch that she gives
• 1:13:18
  him is so like she came from way behind, you know what I'm
• 1:13:24
  saying? Like she used her whole body to
• 1:13:26
  fucking pound him in the face and he falls into the elevator.
• 1:13:31
  He she knocks him clean out. And if you think about it like,
• 1:13:36
  I don't know if they, I guess they're insinuating there are no
• 1:13:39
  cameras in the elevator. So it literally looks like she's
• 1:13:42
  just like she just puts her hand up and then no one will know.
• 1:13:47
  No, like, how will they know? No one will know if there's no
• 1:13:51
  elevator, if there's no elevator camera don't know.
• 1:13:54
  He just has a black like a or I think she said she punches him
• 1:13:57
  in the mouth. Yeah, because like, I mean, the
• 1:14:00
  stuff he has said, like, first of all, regarding her, like
• 1:14:03
  chest size or when they're at the office at night.
• 1:14:05
  He's like, you know what they say when single woman are at the
• 1:14:08
  office with a married man. Like literally thank you for
• 1:14:12
  punching him in the mouth. I've been waiting for that for
• 1:14:14
  so many episodes. Like it was so satisfied.
• 1:14:18
  For real. Oh my.
• 1:14:19
  God, so, so satisfying. But it's such a perfect
• 1:14:22
  portrayal of female rage, I thought, And it was so
• 1:14:26
  warranted. It was beyond warranted at that
• 1:14:28
  point because she was like, you can't.
• 1:14:30
  I think she was on the phone with her boyfriend while she's
• 1:14:32
  talking the guy back to the office.
• 1:14:33
  Yeah, I tried. Talking to him and there's just
• 1:14:36
  a reasoning with people, he's an animal, blah blah.
• 1:14:39
  And the boyfriends like what are you saying?
• 1:14:42
  He's like having game night with his, like coworkers and he's
• 1:14:45
  like, do I need to? What's happening?
• 1:14:46
  What's happening? She's like, I love you.
• 1:14:48
  Goodbye. And yeah, she.
• 1:14:49
  Hangs up by saying like I love you and then click, she hangs up
• 1:14:51
  and he's like, Oh my God is. That her last will.
• 1:14:54
  And I gotta go. What's happening?
• 1:14:57
  It's so funny. Oh, I love this couple so much
• 1:15:00
  though, because like, I love how they like feed off of each
• 1:15:04
  other. Oh my God.
• 1:15:04
  And not necessarily when they even like, see it because like
• 1:15:07
  when she first goes to talk to the guy, she's like, let's get
• 1:15:10
  us like, let's have a cigarette or something.
• 1:15:12
  And then she like stamps out the cigarette in his drink.
• 1:15:16
  I was like, just like, you know, But then later, like her
• 1:15:18
  boyfriend is like, let's have a cigarette.
• 1:15:20
  And it's like the same, the same mindset.
• 1:15:24
  And then he's like, oh, like, why aren't you?
• 1:15:25
  So I, I quit smoking and just like staring at him.
• 1:15:28
  And then she rides up in her motorcycle.
• 1:15:31
  He's like, you know, like, that's right.
• 1:15:34
  That's so silly. They are so silly.
• 1:15:36
  I love them together. There's two contracts in the
• 1:15:40
  show. So one is the marriage contract
• 1:15:42
  slash tenant landlord contract from the male lead and female
• 1:15:45
  lead. And then there's also a dating
• 1:15:47
  contract between those two. Like Suji and the CEO also have
• 1:15:51
  a dating contract. And he was shocked because the
• 1:15:54
  conditions are like, for them it was you can't ask anything
• 1:15:59
  personal about me. We cannot meet in each other's
• 1:16:03
  homes. We are always going to meet in a
• 1:16:05
  hotel. And I think the third one was if
• 1:16:09
  we meet once, we have to have sex twice.
• 1:16:11
  Yeah. It was like a physical one.
• 1:16:13
  Yeah. And he's like, OK, I'm down for
• 1:16:15
  that. He's he's so conflicted about
• 1:16:18
  signing the contract with her because he's like, I actually
• 1:16:21
  want to get to know her and like, what do you mean I can't
• 1:16:24
  ask questions? What do you mean you have to
• 1:16:25
  meet in a hotel room? But then he's like, he meets,
• 1:16:27
  sees the third condition. He's like, but like, that's a
• 1:16:31
  good deal, right? There, I could do it, but then,
• 1:16:34
  but then later she like, you know, 'cause she's struggling
• 1:16:38
  with like if she wants to be in a relationship and what a
• 1:16:41
  relationship entails for her. So she's like, you have to like
• 1:16:44
  leave your company if you want, if you like really, truly.
• 1:16:47
  And he's like, I don't think I can.
• 1:16:48
  Do right, she cares. She got.
• 1:16:50
  She got super spooked though, yeah.
• 1:16:53
  So she said this out of like she didn't think much of of the
• 1:16:57
  consequences of saying this. She was just scared that because
• 1:17:01
  she had just gotten slut, there's this whole thing right
• 1:17:03
  where she got slut shamed at work by the female employees
• 1:17:08
  like her call female colleagues were in the bathroom talking
• 1:17:12
  shit about her because she doesn't like wearing bras she
• 1:17:16
  hates. Doing it like at the office,
• 1:17:18
  she's like when she's out of the office, but then she's always
• 1:17:21
  running back and forth, so like. Yeah, her job is like in and out
• 1:17:25
  of the office and sometimes she comes back to the office, no
• 1:17:27
  bra, goes straight to the bathroom, puts on a bra and then
• 1:17:29
  goes about her day in the office.
• 1:17:32
  Exactly. And that people, the males of
• 1:17:35
  course, notice that she doesn't wear a bra sometimes very few
• 1:17:39
  times, but it's enough to like cause rumors caused a stir.
• 1:17:42
  The female employees are slut shaming her because, oh, she's a
• 1:17:45
  floozy. She doesn't like, I didn't know
• 1:17:47
  she was like that. She didn't like wearing a bra
• 1:17:48
  and all this stuff and meeting with male clients.
• 1:17:52
  And did you know what happened at this dinner or whatever else?
• 1:17:54
  And it's like they link her with him with the CEO character
• 1:17:59
  because he stood up for her in a meeting, in a lunch dinner
• 1:18:02
  meeting. And so they were like, oh, she's
• 1:18:05
  definitely like sleeping with that guy.
• 1:18:06
  And so she got spooked. Then he texts her and he's like,
• 1:18:09
  I'm downstairs if at the cafe, if you want to meet, I'll take
• 1:18:13
  you to dinner tonight. And she like, blows up in his
• 1:18:15
  face because the sexual harassment plus the slut shaming
• 1:18:19
  from her female colleagues and the whole hullabaloo about her
• 1:18:24
  not wearing a bra. It was a lot for her on that
• 1:18:27
  day. And she was like, I can't don't.
• 1:18:29
  I'm not dating you. I can't date.
• 1:18:31
  I just wanted to sleep with you, not date you.
• 1:18:34
  If you want to date me, quit being a CEO basically stole off
• 1:18:38
  your company Yeah, because her his company was a client up
• 1:18:43
  there. It was like, that's the whole
• 1:18:44
  thing. So he takes it to heart though,
• 1:18:48
  and he. Hasn't he's like, I really like
• 1:18:52
  her so much I could sell my company, but I really I love
• 1:18:56
  both equally. And she realizes in that moment
• 1:18:59
  like, wow, he actually. He cares.
• 1:19:01
  Cares about me, yeah. So she needed to see that.
• 1:19:04
  She did. She needed to see his little
• 1:19:06
  tears. He was crying and everyone's
• 1:19:09
  like, why are you crying? He's like, I wasn't crying.
• 1:19:12
  Denying that he's been. Crying eyes are.
• 1:19:14
  So bloodshot. Like Sir?
• 1:19:17
  I don't know. Absolutely nobody.
• 1:19:20
  Oh my gosh, it was so much fun. But then, yeah, they start
• 1:19:23
  making on the car and they have like a deeply sexual
• 1:19:26
  relationship. But he definitely wants to get
• 1:19:28
  to know her. He's super intrigued by her.
• 1:19:32
  So she but she's a vixen. Like she's a very typical vixen
• 1:19:36
  type character. Who I think it was the other
• 1:19:41
  man, the developer kid who was with the other best friend.
• 1:19:46
  Yeah. The CEO asks him, like, I see
• 1:19:50
  that you know this girl Suji, like what's what's her deal?
• 1:19:54
  What do you what do you think if we dated and stuff like that
• 1:19:57
  trying to get the low down on her before he signed the
• 1:19:59
  contract? And he's like, yeah, man, nobody
• 1:20:03
  can handle her. I can't handle her.
• 1:20:04
  I had nothing to do with her in in college and stuff.
• 1:20:08
  She had so many suitors and so many people asking her how she
• 1:20:10
  was very popular. But like he said, I cannot
• 1:20:14
  handle that source code. I think it's what he said
• 1:20:18
  because he's a fucking developer.
• 1:20:19
  It's like, so nerdy. Love IT talk, I know.
• 1:20:23
  And I was like, OK, he said. He, she would ruin you, is what
• 1:20:28
  he said. He's like, you cannot, she would
• 1:20:31
  ruin you. And I'd like that.
• 1:20:34
  I I kind of think it's funny that they are really different
• 1:20:38
  personalities. Oh, they're opposites for sure.
• 1:20:40
  Complete opposites the CEO and Suji, but they work like they're
• 1:20:45
  compatible and he really wants it like he loves her.
• 1:20:50
  Yeah. It's cute.
• 1:20:52
  It's so cute I. Love them together so I forgot
• 1:20:55
  how much I like them. Me too.
• 1:20:57
  Rewatched it and I'm like they're just so cute like and
• 1:20:59
  they have good communication once they start communicating
• 1:21:02
  like it's good communication unlike another couple which.
• 1:21:06
  Oh, oh, we are. We are seguing from the male
• 1:21:10
  lead and female lead and the second couple, which is Suji and
• 1:21:14
  the CEO and we're going to the third couple, which is the BFF.
• 1:21:19
  Oh my God, what's her name? Such a disaster.
• 1:21:21
  It was a disaster. So this relationship, what do
• 1:21:24
  you have to say about hold on and one suck?
• 1:21:28
  Who's the developer that I was just talking about?
• 1:21:32
  OK First things first, I feel like there was a lot of
• 1:21:36
  miscommunication like she should have just told him her feelings.
• 1:21:39
  He should have told her his feelings.
• 1:21:41
  She should have been direct because he is like at first like
• 1:21:44
  re watching it I'm like he's a himbo like he's a himbo for
• 1:21:47
  sure. But he, but then, you know, I'm
• 1:21:51
  seeing him act in, you know, all these other scenarios and I'm
• 1:21:55
  like, wait, like, what is his audacity here?
• 1:21:57
  Like what is he doing? Like what are?
• 1:22:00
  And and it just gets worse and worse.
• 1:22:02
  And I'm, I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie, I forgot
• 1:22:05
  like as I'm watching this, I'm like, OK, so on this, I mean,
• 1:22:10
  we're on the spoiler section. So like, obviously they break up
• 1:22:13
  and they're like trying to figure out how to live without
• 1:22:17
  each other. And like in most breakups, it
• 1:22:19
  takes along like it takes a while and she's starting to
• 1:22:24
  figure out what she wants and what, you know, she wants to do.
• 1:22:28
  And he's doing the same. And I'm like, oh, thank.
• 1:22:31
  Like, you know what? I think they're better off not
• 1:22:32
  together. I think that's good for them to
• 1:22:35
  work on themselves because there was something going on when they
• 1:22:37
  were together that just wasn't, it was toxic.
• 1:22:40
  It wasn't, it wasn't a real relationship.
• 1:22:43
  And at the end when they're like together with a kid, I'm like, I
• 1:22:46
  don't know if that's gonna last. I don't.
• 1:22:48
  I after seeing everything, I don't know.
• 1:22:50
  They went through a lot of trial and error and perhaps maybe they
• 1:22:54
  can work it out. But there is so much that
• 1:22:56
  happened that was messy. And I just don't think I want
• 1:23:00
  wanted them together at the end. I think it would have been a
• 1:23:03
  better lesson to see them grow off on their own.
• 1:23:05
  Yeah, I completely agree. I thought this was a very so
• 1:23:09
  this relationship and her character Hoorong.
• 1:23:14
  She's a traditional like what? Like oh trad wife.
• 1:23:18
  She wants to be a trad wife. That is always been her goal was
• 1:23:23
  to marry someone and become a homemaker.
• 1:23:29
  That was her life's goal. That was that was what she
• 1:23:31
  wanted out of life. And it was brutal to see her
• 1:23:36
  hitch her horse to this dumb ass.
• 1:23:40
  Like he was literally I, I could see it and I couldn't see it
• 1:23:45
  because she laid out exactly what she was looking for.
• 1:23:49
  She was like, I want someone who makes their own money and made
• 1:23:55
  their own fortune versus someone who was already rich.
• 1:24:00
  And she got it in her head that engineering was the was the
• 1:24:05
  industry that was most popping off right now had the most
• 1:24:08
  potential. And so she wanted to marry an
• 1:24:10
  engineer. So he met all of her criteria,
• 1:24:13
  right? But she fell in love with
• 1:24:15
  potential. Yeah.
• 1:24:18
  Like, she basically was with him for seven years.
• 1:24:22
  And there was a lot of talk from her about how she trained him to
• 1:24:27
  be better, how she trained him to basically be a be a good
• 1:24:32
  boyfriend. And I think people like, what
• 1:24:37
  does it mean to like to train someone?
• 1:24:39
  It means she basically built him up.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah. Built him up from scratch
• 1:24:43
  because he was probably wearing the same underwear for a week
• 1:24:48
  and just a hit. Like you said Himbo could not
• 1:24:53
  function without her. Like she was everything she
• 1:24:56
  cooked, she cleaned, she maintained him, she supported
• 1:25:00
  him and that is I. I was like, it was unacceptable
• 1:25:06
  to me to for her to do this for seven years without ever having
• 1:25:14
  the hard conversation of, hey, are we going to get married?
• 1:25:16
  Do you want to get married? What is your life goal?
• 1:25:19
  Because his dream was to get his app off the ground, his startup.
• 1:25:27
  And when they said what the startup was, what the app did, I
• 1:25:30
  was like throwing chairs in the room.
• 1:25:32
  I was so sad. It's like, what is this concept
• 1:25:36
  if you're in a happy relationship like I just I don't
• 1:25:39
  know where the inspiration came to me.
• 1:25:41
  Like I don't he. Says so this is what his app
• 1:25:44
  did. So I was initially like I
• 1:25:47
  couldn't remember what his app did until the they said it in
• 1:25:50
  the RE when I rewatched. It skipped it.
• 1:25:52
  So wait, tell me. OK, so the app his app is an
• 1:25:55
  alarm clock app between friends. So you can set alarms for your
• 1:26:00
  friend. That's so.
• 1:26:01
  Stupid to wake up so much. Family and friends like you can
• 1:26:04
  set alarms for each other and that's all the app did.
• 1:26:08
  OK, no, I skipped that when I skipped a lot of his scenes.
• 1:26:12
  OK that's fine I totally understand but when they said
• 1:26:15
  this I was like get the fuck out of here.
• 1:26:17
  Like that is the lamest app. Who would want to buy that?
• 1:26:22
  No one. Literally.
• 1:26:23
  And his point was like, there's so many useless apps out there,
• 1:26:26
  like some that will like do this, that and the other, why is
• 1:26:29
  my app so useless compared to other useless apps that are
• 1:26:33
  doing well and people want them and buy them.
• 1:26:39
  And I was like, do you hear yourself?
• 1:26:41
  Do you hear yourself? So he was like demoralized from
• 1:26:46
  the process of just dealing with, I think he dealt with the
• 1:26:53
  development team at the app, the other app, which was dating, not
• 1:26:59
  marriage. Yeah, that's why I was like, I
• 1:27:01
  was confused for a second. I was like, he didn't make that,
• 1:27:03
  but I'm like, OK, no. He didn't do that app, but he he
• 1:27:07
  showed up one day at the office at some point and they were
• 1:27:09
  like, oh, you're the developer of the alarm clock app or
• 1:27:12
  whatever. And he was like, yeah, I am.
• 1:27:14
  And they were like, Oh, well, we all used it the other day.
• 1:27:18
  And he was like, he, he was my app.
• 1:27:19
  He was like, so stunned. And they go, yeah, we, we, if we
• 1:27:23
  ever met the developer, we all wanted to say something.
• 1:27:27
  And he was like, tell me like, what do you want to say?
• 1:27:29
  It's like, why would you make that app?
• 1:27:34
  And he was devastated that they were criticizing his app.
• 1:27:39
  Like why would you put all your all of this effort into this
• 1:27:44
  stupid ass app? For real and then like not to
• 1:27:47
  mention it started to take over his life like you could
• 1:27:50
  literally see he didn't care about his relationship.
• 1:27:54
  And that's the part I forgot about the ticket part like
• 1:27:56
  literally I forgot about that part.
• 1:27:58
  And I think it's so crazy that like, she's like, we're gonna go
• 1:28:01
  on a date, We're gonna we're gonna watch this show.
• 1:28:04
  And he and she asks him to buy the tickets, I believe multiple
• 1:28:08
  times. Yeah.
• 1:28:09
  And he's like, OK, I'll do it. I'll do it.
• 1:28:11
  And then they get there and he didn't buy the tickets.
• 1:28:13
  He bought the wrong tickets. Or he bought the.
• 1:28:15
  Wrong tickets. Another show.
• 1:28:16
  Another show. And the other show gave some
• 1:28:19
  clarity as to what you were saying in the beginning of the
• 1:28:23
  podcast. Is, is love the same thing as
• 1:28:26
  like, like, like dating to marriage?
• 1:28:28
  Is marriage the same thing as like, if you love someone, can
• 1:28:31
  you all like, you know. Yeah.
• 1:28:33
  And it had her think really hard about it.
• 1:28:35
  And the thing that hurts my soul so badly is cuz she had like an
• 1:28:40
  epiphany watching this wrong show that she didn't even want
• 1:28:43
  to watch in the 1st place. Yeah.
• 1:28:44
  Which is like, maybe this isn't for me, maybe we are not meant
• 1:28:48
  to be. And she was crying.
• 1:28:49
  She was having an emotional moment, but she wasn't gonna
• 1:28:52
  break up with him because she cared about him so much.
• 1:28:54
  And then this, this guy is like, I was literally about to say
• 1:28:58
  this motherfucker. That's fine.
• 1:29:01
  He's like, he's like, let's break up.
• 1:29:03
  And it's like. You don't.
• 1:29:06
  Even deserve to say those sentences.
• 1:29:09
  Break up with me. Like, Oh my gosh, he was.
• 1:29:13
  Broke dude, no prospects making this useless app that no one was
• 1:29:20
  gonna buy like throwing his life away, wasting her time, wasting
• 1:29:23
  his time. And you're telling me after 7
• 1:29:26
  years of her sticking that out and providing so much for you,
• 1:29:31
  so much emotional like stability and support and like you're
• 1:29:39
  telling me he didn't. He was like, I wanted some proof
• 1:29:42
  that you love me or something. Do you remember he said this at
• 1:29:44
  one point? It wasn't in that scene.
• 1:29:45
  It was another scene. He was like, I was like trying
• 1:29:47
  to find proof that you love me. And I was like, what further
• 1:29:51
  fucking proof do you need? And.
• 1:29:54
  I like and after seven years. I was like, how does he not
• 1:29:59
  realize that she wants to get married?
• 1:30:02
  And the thing I had the biggest problem with is after they broke
• 1:30:06
  up, like the how he realizes that like I do want to be with
• 1:30:11
  this person is he sees her with another guy.
• 1:30:14
  Are he like, like that is, no, that's not love.
• 1:30:17
  I'm sorry. That's you wanting something
• 1:30:19
  that you can't have any more, right?
• 1:30:21
  That is, it's jealousy. And I, I like it sucks 'cause I
• 1:30:25
  remember the first time I watched this, I was like, oh,
• 1:30:28
  I'm so sad. Like they they really loved
• 1:30:30
  each. Other I know they have such a
• 1:30:32
  long. History.
• 1:30:33
  That was the first time. Second time I'm like, are you
• 1:30:36
  kidding me? How did she put up with this
• 1:30:40
  man's like BS for seven years as well?
• 1:30:43
  Just like like she hinted at getting married so much and he
• 1:30:47
  just kept putting it on the back burner and like eventually it's
• 1:30:50
  like. Never occurred to him that they
• 1:30:53
  should get married. You never got the future.
• 1:30:56
  Years. Never thought about their
• 1:30:58
  future. Never thought about their future
• 1:31:01
  and the couch. The couch fiasco in episode 4.
• 1:31:04
  Bro so awful. Bro so he said he she's talking
• 1:31:09
  about getting this couch, this pink couch and it's expensive,
• 1:31:12
  but it's also too large for them to just get out right right now
• 1:31:16
  and stick it in their apartment. They live in a rooftop room.
• 1:31:20
  OK, it's tiny. And she kept saying like I want
• 1:31:24
  this couch, I want this couch. He didn't put two and two
• 1:31:26
  together that she wants the couch to go inside a newlywed
• 1:31:31
  home that is obviously larger and obviously get married.
• 1:31:36
  Like he didn't connect the dots on that.
• 1:31:39
  And it was so easy. It was like slow pitch, slow
• 1:31:42
  pitch. That's why she wants the couch.
• 1:31:45
  It's commitment. The couch represents commitment
• 1:31:48
  and. He wouldn't commit.
• 1:31:51
  He wouldn't, but he gets the couch without everything else,
• 1:31:54
  which is a proposal. Marriage, new house, right?
• 1:31:59
  Like this succession of things that she's expecting from him
• 1:32:03
  and he gets the couch. It's in the middle of their
• 1:32:05
  fucking tiny ass room and she gets pissed.
• 1:32:09
  She gets so mad in that moment. And then he says you should have
• 1:32:16
  said what you wanted clearly then I wouldn't have to put up
• 1:32:18
  with this crap. I hate him.
• 1:32:22
  No, I really I don't like. That's verbatim what he said to
• 1:32:26
  her and she was like crap, like she couldn't believe he said
• 1:32:29
  this to her. They got the floor model, which
• 1:32:33
  means it's already been sat on by like a million different
• 1:32:36
  butts and it's probably not that nice, maybe has some damage,
• 1:32:42
  whatever. And it doesn't fit in their tiny
• 1:32:44
  place. This is all the things that she
• 1:32:46
  says. And then he says, do I have to
• 1:32:49
  beg again? Are you going to cry again?
• 1:32:53
  Why is it that I'm always the one apologizing?
• 1:32:58
  Because you messed up you. Fucked up bro.
• 1:33:00
  You keep messing up. That's why you have to
• 1:33:02
  apologize. That's how relationships work.
• 1:33:05
  He. Doesn't even realize.
• 1:33:08
  Just doesn't get it. He doesn't get it.
• 1:33:10
  Like, why stick with a man who's so oblivious?
• 1:33:13
  And so I don't think he should have got the.
• 1:33:15
  Girl, I don't. And it upsets me that it took
• 1:33:19
  him to, like, see her with another guy, which, by the way,
• 1:33:22
  she didn't even know this guy. He just was like, I'll give you
• 1:33:25
  a ride. And then he's like, oh, she
• 1:33:26
  moved on so fast. And then he realizes, I want
• 1:33:29
  her. No.
• 1:33:31
  No, you don't get back. You had her for seven years and
• 1:33:34
  you made no moves to make this permanent.
• 1:33:36
  You didn't appreciate her like you didn't, and it's so upset.
• 1:33:41
  And so, yeah, I hope you're cleaning.
• 1:33:44
  For this man being the backbone. For this man fixing his tie, he
• 1:33:50
  resented her. He resented her for make for
• 1:33:54
  forcing the he thinks he forced the she forced the marriage on
• 1:33:57
  him. He proposes finally, but he's
• 1:34:00
  unhappy about it. And then he resents her for
• 1:34:02
  making him get a real job, a stable job, instead of him
• 1:34:10
  keeping going with his stupid ass app and trying to get that
• 1:34:14
  off the ground and. That's not how it should be.
• 1:34:17
  And I, I have to say, when they're 30 years old, yeah,
• 1:34:21
  there are. 30 Like where do you come that's a man that's a man
• 1:34:27
  it's. Upsetting.
• 1:34:28
  It's upsetting. I don't understand why this is.
• 1:34:31
  Anyway, so yeah, I was reeling over their whole relationship
• 1:34:35
  and I can't believe they got together at the end.
• 1:34:37
  I don't think they should have. I think it should have just been
• 1:34:39
  they broke up like their. Kid was cute on the bus but I
• 1:34:42
  think she would have been so much more happy with the
• 1:34:46
  investment. Insurance guy or not.
• 1:34:48
  Not in his best financial financial.
• 1:34:51
  Yeah, he was like an account guy.
• 1:34:54
  Dude, yeah, he he handled the finances of the thing and he
• 1:34:58
  liked hersh he was head over like he like he was like I would
• 1:35:02
  get married to you like the first.
• 1:35:05
  Like first he was like, I'm interested in marriage and
• 1:35:06
  that's why my last relationship didn't work out because I wanted
• 1:35:10
  to get married and she didn't basically.
• 1:35:12
  That's why she's. Also, she's also interested in
• 1:35:15
  marriage, but she was like, no, I need like, it's.
• 1:35:20
  Anyways, I did like her character, but I think she
• 1:35:23
  deserved better. Yeah.
• 1:35:24
  And I think it's also ridiculous that the guy and that girl who
• 1:35:29
  worked at the tech or the IT company was like, look, we're
• 1:35:33
  we're a match on this app. And he like just, it's so
• 1:35:39
  annoying because like he was having, he got out of the
• 1:35:42
  relationship and then he's seeing her possibly being in a
• 1:35:45
  relationship, but then he's having someone be like, we could
• 1:35:47
  be in a relationship. And he's like, oh, I think I
• 1:35:50
  actually want to be with the girl like.
• 1:35:54
  I hate it. I hate it.
• 1:35:55
  It's so. Bad.
• 1:35:56
  It was so bad we we should talk about the plot twist, though.
• 1:36:00
  It's a slight plot twist. It's the stupidest little,
• 1:36:03
  tiniest plot twist. But I was like, why is this so?
• 1:36:06
  Like OK with the guy from Business Proposal Glasses?
• 1:36:10
  God, yes. So let's not What was that?
• 1:36:15
  Why did they do that? This is.
• 1:36:17
  So strange they have cuming cue in this show as a as a
• 1:36:21
  supporting character. He's Poknam Poknam and he works
• 1:36:27
  at the coffee shop that the female lead gets a job at.
• 1:36:30
  He gets her the job because she has no experience doing that.
• 1:36:34
  She's only been a writer and he gets her the job because and
• 1:36:37
  he's flirting with her. He's extremely nice to her.
• 1:36:41
  And the plot twist is everyone thinks, well, not everyone but
• 1:36:45
  the male lead and the staff at dating not marriage that app got
• 1:36:53
  some complaints about his profile that said he was a
• 1:36:57
  stalker and they were like, Oh my God, he's a stalker and.
• 1:37:03
  He's not a good guy, not. A good guy.
• 1:37:06
  He's a wrench. Yeah, He's has this wrench in
• 1:37:09
  his bag. And they're like, he's just bad
• 1:37:11
  thing. He's gonna back.
• 1:37:12
  Your head in with this like wrench that he keeps in the back
• 1:37:15
  of his motorcycle and it's just not the case at all.
• 1:37:19
  OK. The plot twist is no, he's not a
• 1:37:22
  crazy stalker murderer. He is just a dude making bad
• 1:37:29
  financial decisions. He's a part timer.
• 1:37:32
  He's just a part timer. That's handsome.
• 1:37:34
  Insanely expensive motorcycle and he's not on any of these
• 1:37:37
  dating apps and hasn't been banned from anything.
• 1:37:40
  He's the real murderer. Was catfishing everybody with
• 1:37:44
  his photos with Kim Ming Ki's photos and that plot twist of
• 1:37:52
  he's not really as I would have preferred him just be a stalker.
• 1:37:55
  It was it was so random, like I feel like in most K dramas, you
• 1:37:59
  know, they have to throw in a little fun little twist, but it
• 1:38:01
  was so like, first of all, let's just when he likes her.
• 1:38:06
  But I have to say the hardest line so ridiculous, like when
• 1:38:11
  you know what I'm talking about when her husband or like fake
• 1:38:14
  husband or whatever is across the street and she's talking to
• 1:38:18
  the guy and he's like, I like you.
• 1:38:19
  And she's like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
• 1:38:21
  I have a husband. He's like, that doesn't mean you
• 1:38:24
  can't have a boyfriend. And it's like what the?
• 1:38:28
  That's right, I forgot that giving she says that to her.
• 1:38:32
  He's like, what? That doesn't mean you can't have
• 1:38:34
  a boyfriend just 'cause you got a.
• 1:38:36
  Sir, Sir, Sir. And the husband is right across
• 1:38:41
  the street. He can't hear that.
• 1:38:42
  Nobody sees that. Yeah.
• 1:38:45
  Oh, it's so ridiculous. And then and then, yeah, then
• 1:38:47
  they paint him in a light where they're like, he's actually
• 1:38:50
  stalking people. He's gonna hurt your wife like
• 1:38:53
  he's been hanging out with her 'cause he lives with the same
• 1:38:55
  job. You better take her to the bus
• 1:38:59
  stop and watch out for her. And then he uses the wrench to
• 1:39:02
  open beer like I'm. So stupid.
• 1:39:08
  So I, I thought it was funny. I, I actually thought this whole
• 1:39:11
  thing was funny. But yeah, if you look at it
• 1:39:13
  logically, you're like, what the hell is this plot twist that
• 1:39:17
  happens with Kiminki's side character?
• 1:39:19
  And I just wish they'd followed through and that he really was a
• 1:39:23
  stalker. It would have been interesting
• 1:39:25
  for sure, but I just thought it was so silly that they like
• 1:39:29
  really like wound it up. They started using suspenseful
• 1:39:32
  music. They started showing them
• 1:39:34
  hanging out at night. Something bad could happen.
• 1:39:36
  You never know. And then of course the guy
• 1:39:39
  literally like kicks or or a main guy kicks the motorcycle
• 1:39:43
  which. Can we just?
• 1:39:45
  Can we? Please circle back because
• 1:39:48
  literally the guy is like first of all, the the shop guy, the
• 1:39:55
  part timer has this expensive, expensive motorcycle and he's
• 1:39:59
  like this motorcycle is more than your like home like your
• 1:40:02
  mortgage payment like this is such an expensive motorcycle and
• 1:40:05
  he and our man is frugal. He's a frugal guy.
• 1:40:08
  Okay, so he's like, I'm not going to mess this up.
• 1:40:11
  And they show. Honestly, a ridiculous comedic
• 1:40:14
  scene. Where he's like, funny.
• 1:40:15
  Flips. Over the motorcycle.
• 1:40:17
  Over the motorcycle to try not to fall on it.
• 1:40:20
  He's falling, but he makes a freaking martial arts flip it.
• 1:40:24
  Happens twice, twice. It happens twice.
• 1:40:28
  So you're like, OK, this man, he does not want to owe this guy
• 1:40:32
  money for damaging the motorcycle, but then when his
• 1:40:35
  his girl could be in trouble, he's like, I'm going to kick
• 1:40:38
  this motorcycle. He takes the.
• 1:40:40
  Mirror off the motorcycle then kicks the motorcycle over and
• 1:40:44
  but I mean the scene is good and in that he makes a a closer
• 1:40:50
  connection with her. And it leads to the hand holding
• 1:40:53
  scene. That's what I'm saying, Liz.
• 1:40:57
  Like, I don't mind that. I just would have minded.
• 1:40:59
  I mind that they psyched out the audience.
• 1:41:02
  Yeah, me too, 'cause it was so random, like literally we were
• 1:41:06
  all like, OK, he's a bad guy, they're gonna get closer.
• 1:41:09
  I understand catfishing and I understand that the catfisher
• 1:41:12
  would use Kim Minky's photos because he's stunning, but I
• 1:41:18
  just think he should have been a stalker.
• 1:41:20
  What's wrong with having Kim Minky play a stalker for 5
• 1:41:23
  minutes? Stalkers can be hot, just
• 1:41:27
  saying. He can he.
• 1:41:28
  Can be the boyfriend with the husband though you.
• 1:41:31
  Know and then he acts so but the Ki Minke's character not Ki
• 1:41:36
  Minke the male lead his his character says hurry up, let's
• 1:41:41
  go to our home and holds out his hand and they walk hand in hand
• 1:41:46
  all the way back to the house like he does not let her go.
• 1:41:49
  And that's a great scene because there was the whole thing that
• 1:41:55
  they had had earlier about him using the word our, we, us, Udi.
• 1:42:02
  And she's getting off on it like she's getting drunk off of him,
• 1:42:06
  basically linking them up verbally and saying it's our
• 1:42:11
  home, our, this, our, that, us. And she's desperately looking
• 1:42:18
  for a home, a sense of belonging.
• 1:42:21
  And she's never been in a relationship before.
• 1:42:23
  So she's reading so much into it.
• 1:42:26
  And earlier in the show, he had, she had said, I think she named
• 1:42:32
  the cat. She named the cat Hour.
• 1:42:34
  She named the cat. Hour Ooty and got like the
• 1:42:37
  cutest, what is it collar for the cat that said like Ooty in
• 1:42:43
  in like a wooden like engraved. Yes, it was amazing.
• 1:42:48
  So she got this thing she named the cat.
• 1:42:50
  He did not like them naming the cat her naming the cat hour and
• 1:42:55
  he put up these walls. He like drew party lines.
• 1:42:58
  He was like, uh, uh, we're not doing that.
• 1:43:00
  I would I just want you to do your own thing.
• 1:43:03
  And he he soured it soured it completely.
• 1:43:08
  And so she was like, why don't you not say that anymore?
• 1:43:12
  Why don't you not say hour? Because I seem to like it and
• 1:43:16
  don't. So they drew these lines
• 1:43:19
  earlier. And then he comes in hot trying
• 1:43:21
  to save him from the stock or going like, let's go home to our
• 1:43:24
  home. Exactly.
• 1:43:26
  And hold her hand all the way home.
• 1:43:27
  Oh my God. And.
• 1:43:28
  Then they get into the house, OK?
• 1:43:30
  And he is like, I'm gonna shower first.
• 1:43:32
  She's like, OK. And then he starts walking into
• 1:43:35
  the bathroom and he looks at her.
• 1:43:37
  He's like, why are you following me into the bathroom?
• 1:43:39
  And she's like, 'cause you're still holding my hand.
• 1:43:42
  She's like, I'm not gripping me here, OK?
• 1:43:46
  He wouldn't let go and he didn't even realize it.
• 1:43:49
  Like he's literally just like, I'm going to go take a shower
• 1:43:52
  now and but like I was dying at like the the timing and like the
• 1:43:57
  way he said why? Because he's she's literally
• 1:44:01
  like, because like when he's holding her hand, they're
• 1:44:04
  walking. He just looks at her and goes
• 1:44:06
  why? And she's like, I don't know
• 1:44:11
  what you haven't let go. I don't know what to say.
• 1:44:13
  But like, they're so cute. They are so cute.
• 1:44:16
  Keeps the. Cat.
• 1:44:17
  She throws away the cat collar. I know he.
• 1:44:21
  Somehow, someway gets it out of the trash and keeps it.
• 1:44:25
  The end episode was everything. It was so good.
• 1:44:29
  He finally expresses his emotions and how he feels and
• 1:44:33
  she is like, this is all I've like, this is what I've wanted.
• 1:44:36
  Like 'cause she's, he's not expressive.
• 1:44:39
  I will say though, with the past lover coming into the picture,
• 1:44:44
  there's positives and negatives to that first, like positive,
• 1:44:48
  obviously she's going in a different step with her career
• 1:44:52
  and she's gonna you know, she has someone that can vouch and
• 1:44:56
  help her with her career and and do stuff with that.
• 1:44:59
  But also and like it pushes him to like if he really like cares
• 1:45:05
  about her and figuring that out. But I also thought it was kind
• 1:45:08
  of like not stupid, but it was it could have not been in in the
• 1:45:13
  show. They could have not added that,
• 1:45:15
  but they also needed to because we needed to see why he was so
• 1:45:18
  guarded and why he had all these specific reasons why he was like
• 1:45:23
  that to other people. Exactly, Exactly.
• 1:45:26
  I think I like the effect of the past girlfriend who was living
• 1:45:33
  with this is very progressive, by the way.
• 1:45:34
  Like all of this that he lived with his girlfriend in in
• 1:45:39
  college and they got pregnant and then she lost the baby and
• 1:45:43
  they broke up and the family never proved it was ugly, ugly,
• 1:45:46
  ugly. All of this is super
• 1:45:48
  progressive. Yeah, for K drama and for Korean
• 1:45:53
  society as well. So I think the show, I like the
• 1:46:00
  that aspect of it and I like how it changed him.
• 1:46:03
  Like the experience totally changed him and he thought he
• 1:46:07
  was cursed. Basically, yeah.
• 1:46:11
  He didn't want to love someone again because he didn't want to.
• 1:46:14
  It's so sad. So I like the effects of it, but
• 1:46:17
  I don't necessarily love that she came back in the picture,
• 1:46:20
  even though I'm like, I like that character.
• 1:46:22
  It was like a good female mentor kind of relationship with her
• 1:46:28
  and the female lead. But as far as like what it did
• 1:46:32
  to their relationship and how she kind of like backed off,
• 1:46:35
  they broke up around here. She was like, I want to annul
• 1:46:38
  the contract. Also I was like, oh, but I don't
• 1:46:41
  know if I like that. Yeah, no, exactly.
• 1:46:43
  But like, maybe that's something that they needed to do so then
• 1:46:46
  he could realize how much he missed her and wanted her next
• 1:46:49
  to him. Mm.
• 1:46:50
  Hmm. But that scene where he's like,
• 1:46:53
  I'm dreaming. I know you're not here.
• 1:46:55
  I know when I open my eyes, you're not gonna be here.
• 1:46:57
  And oh, shit. Kill me.
• 1:47:01
  Kill me. It's so good.
• 1:47:02
  It is. It's so good.
• 1:47:04
  It's very well written. Like I I truly think that like
• 1:47:07
  anyone that hasn't seen this drama needs to at least check it
• 1:47:10
  out once. Yeah, because it just it's it's
• 1:47:13
  it's good. It's really good.
• 1:47:16
  I'm going to hit some notes that I think we skipped over just
• 1:47:19
  because we're we're going all over the.
• 1:47:20
  Place in the show, but that's fine.
• 1:47:22
  No, but that's fine. So the oh, in episode 3, the
• 1:47:31
  head writer, this is what we talked about earlier, where the
• 1:47:33
  head writer that she was dealing with before who didn't care
• 1:47:37
  about her at all. She cozies up to her in episode
• 1:47:41
  3 and there's this whole entrapment thing because she
• 1:47:46
  swears, oh, let's go have drinks.
• 1:47:47
  Just us too. But the showrunner and the young
• 1:47:53
  director are there and she immediately, the way that Jung
• 1:47:57
  Selman shuts down in that scene, it's so sad but so real.
• 1:48:04
  You know, she doesn't leave. She's there's not this outburst
• 1:48:07
  right away. She still goes in and she's
• 1:48:11
  feeling trapped. She was lied to.
• 1:48:14
  Yeah, and she was lied to. So they they all pressure her to
• 1:48:18
  make up with the director who attempted to sexually assault
• 1:48:22
  her and accept his apology. And she goes, what are you all
• 1:48:28
  trying to do? I'm the victim here.
• 1:48:31
  It was attempted sexual assault verbatim.
• 1:48:34
  That's what she says. And he the guy, the director
• 1:48:37
  jumps in and tries to cut her off and she snaps her head
• 1:48:41
  toward him and says shut up before I have you arrested.
• 1:48:44
  Yeah, yeah, she stands up. I will say though, it's pretty
• 1:48:48
  awful because in that they're like using victim is a bit too
• 1:48:52
  much like don't use that word. Yes, like trying to play down
• 1:48:56
  downplay her experience like her like this mentally affected her
• 1:49:01
  and they're like, OK, but you need to write more and you have
• 1:49:05
  to still work with him and you he's gonna apologize.
• 1:49:07
  It'll be all fine. No, that's not how the world.
• 1:49:09
  Works. Oh my God, she gives this
• 1:49:11
  wonderful analogy of it basically being hit on the head
• 1:49:16
  on the street with a rock and then telling her no no no you
• 1:49:20
  didn't get hit, you're fine. Like, keep walking instead of
• 1:49:25
  carrying her on their back to the hospital because they're
• 1:49:27
  saying we're doing the most, the best we can here.
• 1:49:29
  And she's like, the best would be you supporting me and taking
• 1:49:33
  me to the hospital if I was bleeding from my head.
• 1:49:37
  Like, I'm the victim. Like, she's basically putting it
• 1:49:40
  in perspective for them. And I think the showrunner says
• 1:49:44
  this, this is terrible. But he says if you whine about
• 1:49:46
  stuff like this, how are you going to make any dramas?
• 1:49:52
  Yeah. And she's like, I guess I'm not
• 1:49:54
  going. To Yeah.
• 1:49:56
  And that's, that's how that goes.
• 1:49:58
  But I in the end it was the best because, you know, then she does
• 1:50:01
  begin to write like for herself and create things that she's
• 1:50:05
  really proud of, where as before people were writing over her
• 1:50:09
  stuff. Yeah, at one point, she says
• 1:50:12
  marrying out of love is something only the rich can do.
• 1:50:17
  That's true. Just leaving that on the table.
• 1:50:20
  That that can be true. I mean, yeah.
• 1:50:23
  Yeah, it's. Crazy episode 5 and six.
• 1:50:25
  I think this is their wedding girl, the mom, the mom.
• 1:50:31
  This is one of the only times that I was bawling in the show
• 1:50:35
  was this whole thing with her mother, who is played by the
• 1:50:42
  wonderful Kim Sung, Kim Sung Yong.
• 1:50:47
  God, what hasn't she been in Kim Sung Yong?
• 1:50:51
  Let me see. It's got she's been in so many
• 1:50:53
  things. She's been in Crash course and
• 1:50:55
  romance the silence. See Backstreet Rookie Hospital
• 1:50:58
  playlist episode 7. She's one of the Ajimas in Reply
• 1:51:02
  1988. Everything she's been in so many
• 1:51:06
  things crash landing on you. She's everywhere.
• 1:51:08
  If you see her, you'll be like, Oh my God, I love this Ajima.
• 1:51:10
  I love her as the mom and because this is my first life
• 1:51:14
  and I think back to this performance so often in episode
• 1:51:19
  5, she's silently protesting the marriage and.
• 1:51:24
  She is. She when the families meet, she
• 1:51:27
  is very standoffish and she thinks that the in laws, their
• 1:51:32
  compliments are thinly veiled insults that her them saying,
• 1:51:37
  Oh, she's so calm and amiable, like they think she's like her,
• 1:51:41
  her. They're saying that you're easy
• 1:51:42
  to control, that you're, you can just, you're at their back and
• 1:51:47
  call this doesn't mean, Oh, you're so nice and and sweet.
• 1:51:50
  They're like, no, they can do whatever they want to you is
• 1:51:53
  what they're saying to you. They're looking down on you.
• 1:51:56
  And she goes, she didn't, I didn't send you to a prestigious
• 1:52:00
  school in soldier so that you can get married instead of
• 1:52:02
  getting a instead of getting a job, because this was the other
• 1:52:05
  option. Like now I've quit my job, quit
• 1:52:06
  my career, I have to get married.
• 1:52:09
  And she calls it all a waste. It's such a waste.
• 1:52:14
  And I was like, wow, this is a stay at home mom.
• 1:52:18
  This is a homemaker. This is a woman who has devoted
• 1:52:21
  her life to her family, to her husband, and she feels that
• 1:52:25
  doing what she did is a waste. She wants the best for her
• 1:52:30
  daughter and the book that she makes and the note that she.
• 1:52:34
  Writes I was crying. It's so beautiful, like she
• 1:52:40
  cause 'cause you know, she's been overshadowed like her whole
• 1:52:42
  life and everything that she says it doesn't matter because
• 1:52:46
  it didn't come from her husband. And she finally gets gets that
• 1:52:51
  moment to show her feelings and be like, it's so beautiful.
• 1:52:55
  It's so beautiful. I have some of the letter here.
• 1:52:57
  So the mom writes this letter and says to the husband like
• 1:53:03
  this is all to the male lead but the female lead reads it and she
• 1:53:07
  says it's important to be good born to good parents otherwise
• 1:53:10
  it's all useless no matter how smart you are.
• 1:53:12
  Say would it be all right if I asked you just two things?
• 1:53:16
  If Jiho ever wants to write again, could you let her do it?
• 1:53:20
  I'll come and help with whatever house chores you have.
• 1:53:22
  Please if she ever wants to write again in the future, don't
• 1:53:26
  let her give up on her dreams like I did.
• 1:53:29
  And my Geo, when she starts to cry, she can't stop easily.
• 1:53:32
  So please don't let her cry alone, even if you were the
• 1:53:35
  reason for her tears. Please stay by her side no
• 1:53:38
  matter what. That note right there that is so
• 1:53:43
  touching. It is so perfect and yeah she
• 1:53:49
  starts bawling like she cannot stop crying after this.
• 1:53:53
  After reading her mom's letter in episode 6.
• 1:53:56
  Say he has a sit down with the mom and he tells the mom that,
• 1:54:02
  you know, Jiho is strong, like even if she looks weak and shy,
• 1:54:04
  she's strong. And that her writing, quitting
• 1:54:09
  and even marrying him were all her choices, which brings in
• 1:54:13
  like that whole consent thing. Like nobody's forcing her to do
• 1:54:15
  this. And he promises that he'll never
• 1:54:18
  interfere with her choices and never be a hindrance to her.
• 1:54:24
  And it's so it's so great. He says like I'm sorry that I
• 1:54:27
  can't say the usual stuff. I will protect her.
• 1:54:30
  He'll I'll make her happy. And the mom responds with you
• 1:54:35
  are a couple, but you are not responsible for each other's
• 1:54:38
  happiness. In an era when making yourself
• 1:54:41
  happy is hard enough, not interfering with the others
• 1:54:44
  dreams is the best thing to do. I like that better than when you
• 1:54:49
  said you won't make her lift a finger, which is so call back to
• 1:54:52
  earlier in the show. And I.
• 1:54:54
  Just. It's beautiful, beautiful.
• 1:54:57
  Like it's, it's, they do communication so well and I
• 1:55:02
  just, I love it. Like all, like I said, like all
• 1:55:05
  the characters, like the mother is the only one like beside
• 1:55:10
  like, I mean in, in, you know, Jiho's family.
• 1:55:13
  But that that scene was so touching 'cause I think like.
• 1:55:17
  About her, yeah, in very respectful.
• 1:55:20
  Way so it's he's so respectful and they both respect each other
• 1:55:26
  and then that respect grows into love.
• 1:55:28
  And it's such a beautiful, mature story about that.
• 1:55:32
  Yeah. And then later on, I think he
• 1:55:34
  says that though we both agreed to the contract after the
• 1:55:37
  marriage, and it's likely that you will suffer a bigger loss
• 1:55:40
  than me. You're a woman and you're
• 1:55:42
  younger than me, so the social judgement against you could be
• 1:55:46
  harsher. Hence all links to me should be
• 1:55:49
  kept to a minimum and any event shared by both of us I thought
• 1:55:53
  would be right to avoid them as much as possible.
• 1:55:55
  So he is literally coming into this as well, even though he's
• 1:55:58
  basically already caught feelings by now.
• 1:56:00
  He's like, I'm trying to do right by you so that when this
• 1:56:03
  thing ends you can go about your life without any consequences.
• 1:56:09
  It's sad because he's working within the confines of the
• 1:56:12
  patriarchy and these double standards and the sexism that
• 1:56:15
  exists in their society, even though he doesn't subscribe to
• 1:56:18
  it. He's like, I just don't wanna
• 1:56:19
  ruin this for you. I don't wanna ruin your life.
• 1:56:22
  He still is thinking about her and thinking about everything
• 1:56:25
  that she will have to face with that.
• 1:56:27
  And I will say, and this is like spoilers, but we're in spoilers.
• 1:56:30
  But at the end and end of it, I love that they covered that like
• 1:56:35
  they don't, they don't go to each other's homes anymore.
• 1:56:38
  Like they're happy just being with each other And cause like
• 1:56:42
  the parents caused so much drama.
• 1:56:45
  And I love that they drew those lines with them.
• 1:56:48
  Yes, I think I think that was very it needed, it needed to
• 1:56:51
  happen. And I'm yeah, it was good.
• 1:56:54
  And this goes into just Korean society, I would say, like their
• 1:56:58
  family dynamics and how the daughter-in-law sort of a slave
• 1:57:03
  to her in laws when she gets married.
• 1:57:05
  And they'd go into the daughter-in-law syndrome and how
• 1:57:08
  she wants to look her best in front of her in laws and get
• 1:57:11
  them to like her. And so she'll do anything for
• 1:57:13
  them and they take advantage of that.
• 1:57:15
  The in laws literally take advantage of that.
• 1:57:17
  His parents and his mom especially is like, oh, she
• 1:57:22
  doesn't let her son lift a finger, wash dishes, cut up an
• 1:57:28
  apple or anything. She's like, oh, no, no, no.
• 1:57:31
  This is like, why would you do that?
• 1:57:32
  You don't know anything about that.
• 1:57:35
  You don't know anything about homemaking.
• 1:57:36
  Like leave it to the experts meeting the women.
• 1:57:39
  And it's like she's part of the problem.
• 1:57:45
  And they the night that she does the funeral rites, the ancestral
• 1:57:49
  rites where she's cooking like she was a slave, that's unpaid
• 1:57:54
  labor. Yeah.
• 1:57:56
  And, and it's, I mean, they really show like like, like
• 1:57:59
  it's, it's throughout the show, the patriarchy and the sexism
• 1:58:02
  and everything. And it's, it's a clear line of
• 1:58:06
  like what what you can see and what happens.
• 1:58:09
  And yeah, I love that they they kind of cut the line off of
• 1:58:13
  that. They're like, yeah, we're not
• 1:58:14
  gonna do that anymore. No, that's not something that's.
• 1:58:16
  In their that's in their real marriage contract, which is in
• 1:58:19
  their contract renegotiate every year.
• 1:58:21
  This is the end of the show. When they are finally together,
• 1:58:24
  they basically set these ground rules where it's like you don't
• 1:58:27
  have to go to my house and do all that shit and I don't have
• 1:58:29
  to go to your house and do all that, any of that shit either.
• 1:58:32
  Like we are a unit together. We are not going to.
• 1:58:36
  We're going to cut out all of this unnecessary bullshit that
• 1:58:39
  is really degrading the relationship and causing
• 1:58:42
  resentment, right? Exactly.
• 1:58:45
  No, exactly. And I think, I think that was
• 1:58:48
  really, it was a good move on their part.
• 1:58:51
  Which is why I say it's progressive because that's not
• 1:58:54
  the case in most Korean marriages, I'm sure.
• 1:58:58
  And Speaking of marriage, I just want to touch on the best
• 1:59:00
  friend, Horan once again because I have this moment where this is
• 1:59:05
  an episode nine, I think halfway through the show where the
• 1:59:09
  female lead is musing about her friend.
• 1:59:11
  She's talking about like how she used to wear colorful things
• 1:59:14
  when she was younger. She was so outgoing.
• 1:59:16
  She was very extroverted and she was all about showing off her
• 1:59:19
  uniqueness. And they have, she has this
• 1:59:24
  voice over. When did we start being
• 1:59:26
  embarrassed to wear colours different than other people?
• 1:59:30
  And how she asked her friend, like, why do you want to get
• 1:59:33
  married? And they're standing in front of
• 1:59:37
  a window shop where these different colour coats are on
• 1:59:41
  display. And she says this whole thing
• 1:59:43
  about the red coat versus the black coat, that the red people
• 1:59:48
  that wear red coat, basically people that stand out are
• 1:59:51
  ostracized from society. They're not incorporated into
• 1:59:56
  society, even if they live a very fulfilling, wonderful life.
• 2:00:00
  If you're not married, if you're not conforming, if you're not
• 2:00:03
  having children, you're going to be left out.
• 2:00:06
  You're going to be left behind. And it was so sad to see how she
• 2:00:11
  dulled her colors just to follow.
• 2:00:18
  The crowd, you know. Yeah.
• 2:00:20
  And and I think in that moment, you know, she realized, is this
• 2:00:23
  really what I want to do or am I just following everyone else,
• 2:00:27
  which I want to touch on that color topic because did you
• 2:00:31
  notice after they had that conversation that our main girls
• 2:00:35
  wearing colorful clothing, like she was wearing like a pink coat
• 2:00:40
  and then she's doing all kinds of other stuff.
• 2:00:42
  And I think that's it shows a lot of growth.
• 2:00:45
  And then like with that conversation, she's like, you're
• 2:00:47
  right, I want to do my own thing.
• 2:00:49
  And then she starts wearing color again, which I think is
• 2:00:52
  really beautiful. Yeah, the quote that I have from
• 2:00:55
  the BFF hold on, is she wants to get married, so I so I don't
• 2:00:59
  stand out. I'll be the same as other
• 2:01:01
  people. To me, marriage means that I'm
• 2:01:04
  as good as everyone else, that I have worth as a woman.
• 2:01:07
  And I was like problem because she's putting all of her.
• 2:01:12
  Words. In the marriage, in a, in a man.
• 2:01:15
  And I'm like, what is it like? It's such a crazy brainwashing
• 2:01:21
  that has happened in this very patriarchal society where you're
• 2:01:25
  useless. You have no value unless you're
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  married and with children. Yeah, and they they kind of like
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  drum it in your head too, like from a young age.
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  So then it it's kind of all in still, which is crazy.
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  But like you have that friend, right?
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  That's like, I I need to have a a man and I need to be married
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  in order to feel like I belong and feel like I have a purpose.
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  But then we have her friend over here that is like, I guess I'll
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  do this contract relationship with this guy and I'm gonna
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  start my own company and I'm gonna I love that.
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  Like a main part of it is like, she doesn't like, you know,
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  wearing bras at work. So she makes a company for like,
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  comfortable bras. Yeah.
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  Like, it's it's so cool to see her, her reach out.
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  Exactly. But then it, it almost feels
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  like with the other character, the the friend that we were
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  talking about, like it almost feels like her It's, it's, it's
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  unfulfilled, right? Because she goes back to the
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  guy. She does the thing that she's
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  literally talking about, like how she doesn't want to do that.
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  Like that's not something. And it kind of hurts my feelings
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  because like, why would they touch on that to show that she
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  she's, you know, making these observations that it's something
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  that she might not want to do and she misses wearing colorful
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  clothing, But then to go and do the thing that she she was just
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  talking about, I know she might not want to do.
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  It's silly. I'm so sadly qualm.
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  It's the only qualm I had. But other than that, a beautiful
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  a beautiful. Show I know I love the kimchi
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  making and him making you see and she shows up later in the
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  day. His face lights up when she
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  finally shows. Well, that that kiss scene.
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  So this is what I mean by like people just haven't watched
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  enough K drama if they think that some of the kiss scenes
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  that are happening now are great kiss scenes 'cause this kiss
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  scene by the beach. Looks like a top 10.
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  Girl top ten. I love that.
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  I love that he got because they kiss in the first episode,
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  right? So he starts harkening back to
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  that and he says, you can't even call that a kiss at the bus
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  stop. Like it's really a Peck.
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  And 1st, like I said before, that was not a bad kiss by any
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  stretch. It was good.
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  So she takes offense. She knows she's inexperienced.
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  So she takes offense. And she stands up, offended and
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  concedes like, OK, yeah, like it wasn't a good kiss or whatever,
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  I did it wrong. And he goes, that's not how you
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  do a kiss. A kiss is done like this.
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  And he kisses her hand placement on the neck.
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  And then she like grabs him and then they're like embracing for,
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  I think the reason why it's just like, so like you're like, what?
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  It's 'cause her phone, her phone's ringing and he's just
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  like, they're kissing and he's like, oh, your phone, like your
• 2:04:25
  phone. And she's just like in a trance.
• 2:04:28
  Like she's been wanting this. He's been wanting this.
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  Who call, Who's calling? The mother, of course, but of.
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  Course, her mom. It was, it was a really good
• 2:04:36
  scene 'cause like you said, like consent is such a huge thing and
• 2:04:39
  they, they cover it so much where he's just like, can I do
• 2:04:42
  this? Can I do this?
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  And, and, ah, that scene was so good 'cause she thinks he's
• 2:04:48
  making fun of her and he's like, let me, let me show you.
• 2:04:51
  Yeah. But then I mean, he pulls back
• 2:04:53
  after the initial kiss and he says, now do you understand
• 2:04:56
  better? If not, do you need to know
• 2:04:59
  more? Basically as like he's like, do
• 2:05:01
  we keep doing this set up? I'm already screaming and like
• 2:05:04
  throwing up in the corner and she goes more I want to know
• 2:05:08
  more. And they just start making out
• 2:05:10
  at the beach. OK.
• 2:05:11
  Like it's just a full on make out session.
• 2:05:14
  I'm screaming. I mean, you need to you need to
• 2:05:17
  mop me up because it's it's that good.
• 2:05:21
  I love that kissing. That's a good one.
• 2:05:23
  I forgot about it, only forgot until it popped back up and I'm
• 2:05:27
  like, I remember this when I first watched it 'cause I, I
• 2:05:31
  remember like I also binged this the first time I watched it and
• 2:05:35
  it was like four or five in the morning 'cause I couldn't stop
• 2:05:38
  watching it after like that kiss scene.
• 2:05:40
  I was like I need to know what happens.
• 2:05:41
  No, there's no Once you hit that kiss scene, you're kind of like,
• 2:05:44
  what? We have to keep going.
• 2:05:46
  Cannot stop, cannot stop. It was like 4:00 in the morning
• 2:05:49
  and I was like. What?
• 2:05:50
  Is this like the last episode was so no good because it just
• 2:05:54
  showed so many and then and oh and I was like, I was like a
• 2:05:57
  mess but it was like a good mess 'cause I was like, Dang, that
• 2:06:01
  was. I am so sad that the show has
• 2:06:03
  ended because all of these characters are just so relatable
• 2:06:07
  and they just you just get to know them very well and.
• 2:06:12
  I love it. I love this show and I miss I do
• 2:06:15
  I miss them? They're they pop off the page
• 2:06:18
  and yeah, I, I have like, no other things to say really.
• 2:06:23
  Like, it's just so good. I'm so glad that we went on this
• 2:06:25
  journey together and we talked about the show at length because
• 2:06:29
  I really feel like people need to watch it.
• 2:06:31
  It's so underrated and it's so easy to find.
• 2:06:34
  I think it's on Vicki and Netflix at the moment.
• 2:06:36
  It is. So just pick your poison.
• 2:06:38
  Yeah, it's absolutely worth your time, even if there's, like, a
• 2:06:42
  little these are nitpicky things about, like, Kim and Q's
• 2:06:45
  character and I think even the best friend.
• 2:06:49
  Hold on getting with that freaking dude.
• 2:06:52
  Talk about it. Alarm clock app.
• 2:06:54
  Dude, People make bad decisions, OK?
• 2:06:57
  Like, people can make bad decisions in real life.
• 2:06:59
  And then the character, I feel like should have tried to find
• 2:07:03
  her own identity, but that was her.
• 2:07:05
  That was her goal all along. Like, each girl got what she
• 2:07:09
  wanted, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:07:10
  Yeah, Like she got what she wanted.
• 2:07:13
  The the other besties, Tsuji, she always wanted to be a boss,
• 2:07:17
  her own boss. She did that.
• 2:07:19
  She made her own company based on her own experiences and not
• 2:07:24
  liking wearing a bra and stuff. And then our female lead also
• 2:07:30
  got what she wanted. Her goal was to like fall in
• 2:07:33
  love at least once, like have this all-encompassing love.
• 2:07:36
  It wasn't even to be a great writer.
• 2:07:39
  Yeah. And she went on to do that.
• 2:07:41
  Yeah. She went on to do that, though.
• 2:07:43
  It's it's a nice little happy ending.
• 2:07:45
  And then it's really cute, like when they're on the couch and
• 2:07:48
  he, like, lays down on her lap and she's just, like playing
• 2:07:50
  with this hair. Like, it makes you feel like
• 2:07:52
  their relationship is real. Like I know they're acting OK,
• 2:07:55
  but they just, they just seem so real.
• 2:07:57
  The gestures and stuff and the way they interact is it feels.
• 2:08:02
  Real. It's like raw.
• 2:08:04
  Yeah. You're like watching them
• 2:08:05
  interact. You're like they they care about
• 2:08:07
  each other. This is a real story, yes.
• 2:08:10
  But and the cat's so good, that's good bonus.
• 2:08:13
  Yeah, the cat is so cute. The cat is the best cat I've
• 2:08:16
  ever seen. When the cat's at the vet's
• 2:08:18
  office, I was like, this is a wonderful cat because I have
• 2:08:21
  seen so many horror stories about cats in the vet office.
• 2:08:25
  And this cat was like, Oh yeah, I'm good.
• 2:08:28
  I get whatever can you shot. I don't care.
• 2:08:30
  It's so good. I want to touch on something
• 2:08:33
  real, real, real, real quick about the vet's office.
• 2:08:35
  Because while they're in the vet's office, the vet is talking
• 2:08:37
  about the first time he brought in the cat 'cause it was from
• 2:08:40
  the streets. And like he, he was like
• 2:08:43
  defending this cat and like, you need to do something and you
• 2:08:46
  need to. And then later, like, later,
• 2:08:49
  there's a scene where our main girl is in the car with her
• 2:08:53
  brother, and he's bringing up something that she did in the
• 2:08:56
  past where there was like, I don't know if it was like a
• 2:08:59
  stray dog or a stray. Yeah.
• 2:09:01
  And. And and the neighbor wanted to
• 2:09:03
  take the dog and eat it like dog meat.
• 2:09:05
  Yeah. And she, she's like, no, you're
• 2:09:07
  not gonna do this. I'm not.
• 2:09:09
  And then she defended and you can see and his, like, little
• 2:09:11
  mind doing a little worrying thing.
• 2:09:13
  And he's like, we have, we are so alike.
• 2:09:15
  Yes, we have the same things. And you can see he's slowly
• 2:09:18
  starting to care about her more the more he gets to know her.
• 2:09:22
  And I love it. I love it.
• 2:09:24
  It's so good. I love it so much.
• 2:09:26
  It's so deep. OK, so thank you.
• 2:09:29
  So I'm gonna cut us off because we could be here for another
• 2:09:31
  three hours, I swear. But I know.
• 2:09:33
  But thank you so much for coming on the show, Becky, and for
• 2:09:37
  being so passionate about because this is my first life.
• 2:09:40
  I hope everyone can know that you can contact either of us at
• 2:09:43
  any point to talk about this show.
• 2:09:45
  Where can we? Yeah, Where can we find you
• 2:09:47
  online, Becky? OK so my Tiktok is don't sue
• 2:09:51
  Rebecca and then I do have an Instagram where I just post
• 2:09:55
  edits. I don't use it very much but
• 2:09:57
  it's the it's the same. Is it the same name or is it a
• 2:10:01
  different name? Let me check it.
• 2:10:04
  But you're also a cosplayer, so I know that one is more focused.
• 2:10:07
  On cosplay, OK, yes, no, the other one it is don't see
• 2:10:11
  Rebecca. It's just don't see Rebecca on
• 2:10:12
  both. So which is funny.
• 2:10:15
  I don't know if I've told you, I've literally had people
• 2:10:17
  comment they're like, I am going to sue you because I watched the
• 2:10:21
  show and it made me sad or something.
• 2:10:23
  Or like it's and it's funny because it's like, oh.
• 2:10:27
  I'm sorry, going to press charges because like, wow.
• 2:10:32
  Someone, someone stitched one of my videos and they were like,
• 2:10:35
  you know why they call her Don't Sue Rebecca?
• 2:10:38
  And I was like, Oh my, it's relaxing.
• 2:10:41
  It's just, it's just my middle name.
• 2:10:43
  It's just my middle name. It's literally don't sue me.
• 2:10:48
  It's sue, right? Literally nothing to do with
• 2:10:53
  suing someone. All right, This was so much fun.
• 2:10:57
  I hope you come back, Becky, and you have to.
• 2:11:00
  Watch the noodle shop. Well, we're Boy, I have to
• 2:11:04
  watch. It so funny, it's so old.
• 2:11:07
  All right, Anyway, okay, we're gonna get it.
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  It's okay. That's been our show.
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  I'm Jessica and this has been the Tabaki Rambles podcast.
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  Loving you.