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Trekcast 480: The Future of Star Trek, Legacy Updates & Center Seat 2 Review! · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek Podcast. Sandwiches and puppies.
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  Speaker 1: And space. Live from studios in Idaho and Michigan, this
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  Speaker 1: is Trek cast the galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast
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  Speaker 1: today on the show. We're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: the center seat to documentary. It was it was fun. Oh, my.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, we've got.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my. Plus, we've got Star Trek news and your
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  Speaker 1: fit listener feedback. I am Scott Bouchers. And now he
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  Speaker 1: refused to do the show unless we gave him a
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  Speaker 1: raise and a producer credit. It's Daniel Reyes.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. And I will be collecting that producer credit.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, man? You are Trek cast own William Shatner.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Doing good. Doing good. Um, just, uh, just a
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  Speaker 1: little producers. No, uh, Dan is not here today. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Dan's dad, uh, passed away about a week and a
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  Speaker 1: half ago. And so, uh, you know, he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be on the show for a minute. Um, but, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we just wanted to let them know that we're all
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  Speaker 1: thinking about them and from everybody here at Trek cast
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  Speaker 1: and all the listeners. So, um, if you're, if you're
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  Speaker 1: into it, you know, send them, send them good vibes,
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  Speaker 1: prayers and thoughts and for him and his family. So,
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  Speaker 1: but he will be back and, and we look forward
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  Speaker 1: to it. So, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He's just, he's taken some time and you know, everyone understands.
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  Speaker 1: So absolutely, absolutely. But, uh, you know, he, he, uh,
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  Speaker 1: He wishes us well, gives us the blessing to keep
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  Speaker 1: the show going, so that's what we're going to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah. So, in that spirit, let's get going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, how's it been for you, man? It's been
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  Speaker 3: like two weeks since we've done a show.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, two weeks since we've done the show. There's been
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of, I'm looking forward to hearing some
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek news.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I've got some for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard a couple of rumors and things going on.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God, there's so many weird little rumors.
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  Speaker 1: Skydance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Should we?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we can just get into it if you
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  Speaker 3: want to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we might as well. We might as well.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek news. All right.
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  Speaker 3: So our first news story comes to us from CBR.
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  Speaker 3: And like you said, we're learning more about post merger.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on now with Star Trek? And what do
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  Speaker 3: we you know, what do we what can we expect?
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  Speaker 3: So let me pull this up here. This is from CBR.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said. And apparently Paramount Star Trek resets begins
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  Speaker 3: as HBO takes over control. So this is a little
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  Speaker 3: bit misleading, just so you know. The way this is
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  Speaker 3: worded and the way this sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Keep going. I got to reset my connection.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. It sounds like we have a new head of
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek. We do not. What we have is a
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  Speaker 3: new head of Paramount Plus. His name is Casey Boyles.
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  Speaker 3: He's a top-level executive at HBO and HBO Max, has
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  Speaker 3: been there for years. And so now post-merger, it will
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  Speaker 3: be Casey Boyle's taking over all content for HBO or
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  Speaker 3: for Paramount Plus and Paramount and all that. So does
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek have a new head? Yeah, kind of. They
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  Speaker 3: got a new boss at the top. But as to
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  Speaker 3: who is directly ahead of Star Trek and who is
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  Speaker 3: running it, that's a completely different person. So we don't
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  Speaker 3: know who that is. Jacob's here. Call it Max Plus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Max Plus. It would be a great name or Mount Plus,
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  Speaker 3: Mount Max, whatever you want to call it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to have a different name. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: Casey Boyles has been there for a long time at HBO,
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  Speaker 3: helped overrun or ran Game of Thrones. And so he's
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  Speaker 3: considered a good top level executive to run HBO. and
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  Speaker 3: is known for doing well with franchises and properties. So
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  Speaker 3: the idea is he should do pretty good. So we'll see. Again,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that Casey Boyles is in charge of
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  Speaker 3: Star Trek. He's just in charge of Paramount as a whole,
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  Speaker 3: Paramount Plus as a whole. So Star Trek falls under
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  Speaker 3: that umbrella.
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  Speaker 1: Changing management always means good things, right? Well, yeah. You're
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  Speaker 1: constantly switching.
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  Speaker 3: What's the line from Pink Floyd? Meet the new boss,
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  Speaker 3: same as the old boss?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. I guess.
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  Speaker 3: I guess. We'll see. It really doesn't mean anything right
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  Speaker 3: now until a few years from now when we see
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  Speaker 3: new content.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Our next news story comes to us from SlashFilm.com, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen the rounds, but Terry
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  Speaker 3: Metallus is out there promoting Vision Quest, and so he
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  Speaker 3: stopped by Riker and Data's podcast and talked a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about what could have been Star Trek Legacy. And
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  Speaker 3: so we're learning a few notes. Apparently he never thought
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  Speaker 3: it would actually happen. And but he did. He was
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  Speaker 3: hoping for it. Another thing that he dropped that was
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  Speaker 3: kind of interesting is Patrick Stewart Picard would have been
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  Speaker 3: on Legacy, not like as a main character, but But
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  Speaker 3: he would have been like the person giving Seven of
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  Speaker 3: Nine her missions.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So he would be Charlie to Charlie.
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  Speaker 1: I was just going to say that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So. Okay. That's kind of cool that he would have
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  Speaker 3: been there, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It all would have been cool. Yeah. It would
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  Speaker 1: have been great.
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  Speaker 3: And apparently Terry Metallus was also saying that ultimately his
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  Speaker 3: goal was he had a storyline idea. for Alexander, Worf's son,
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  Speaker 3: and a couple other characters too, like side characters like
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  Speaker 3: that to bring them on into a new legacy. That's
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  Speaker 3: kind of neat. The next generation.
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  Speaker 1: We would have eaten it all up.
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  Speaker 3: Gabe says good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Gabe. Oh, good morning, Gabe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so... Yeah, legacy just... At this point, I don't
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  Speaker 3: ever see it happening because if they're going to completely
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  Speaker 3: revamp Star Trek, they're not going to do legacy. It'll
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  Speaker 3: be fun novels and comic books later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll probably eat those up too. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: big on the comics. It's hard for me to follow
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  Speaker 1: comics because I don't know where to dive in at.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I have that problem with the novelizations because I've
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  Speaker 1: talked about that on the show too. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: a brand new Star Trek Voyager.
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  Speaker 2: Story.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to dive in. Janeway's talking about, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this thing is important. It has to do with the
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  Speaker 1: whatever mission that we went on a month ago. Like, wait, wait, what?
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  Speaker 1: And they keep talking about this mission and it's vitally
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  Speaker 1: important to the story. And I'm like, this is from
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  Speaker 1: a novel from before this. So I go back to that.
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  Speaker 1: And the problem is the, the very first novel from
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  Speaker 1: this story, it branches out into several different storylines. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Chase died and stargazer. And it's like, I need to
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  Speaker 1: read 14 novels a day in order to catch up. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's difficult sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: It's too much.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I miss those standalone novels by, like, Peter David.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I miss Peter David. He would make novels
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  Speaker 1: that were just standalone episodes that were on their own
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  Speaker 1: and great stories self-contained into one book.
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  Speaker 3: You know what would be fun to do sometime? They
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  Speaker 3: made some Star Trek, like, basically choose your own adventure book.
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  Speaker 3: It would be fun, like, if we got some of
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  Speaker 3: those and read them on the show and let, like,
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  Speaker 3: the chat room decide where we go in the story.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be fantastic. Yeah. That'd be fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Chat, would you guys like that if we did that?
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  Speaker 3: If we got some of the Star Trek choose your
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  Speaker 3: own adventures and let you guys decide where we go?
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  Speaker 1: I think that would be fun.
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  Speaker 3: I think it'd be a lot of fun, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of books, can I plug something? I'll wait until
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  Speaker 1: you're done with the news.
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  Speaker 3: No, I got one more story, but go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of friends of mine, actually, including my buddy Gabe,
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  Speaker 1: who's on the chat, have been recommending this book series
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  Speaker 1: to me. You know how friends recommend things, and you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll check that out sometime. Then 25 years later, you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll check that out sometime. He finally took my phone
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  Speaker 1: and put it gifted it to me in my Audible account. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I basically had no excuse not to listen to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's the We Are Legion. Oh, okay. The audiobook of
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  Speaker 1: We Are Legion. It's the Bobaverse. And it's basically about
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's kind of a Star Trek fan. And
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of an engineer. You know, this takes place
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  Speaker 1: in like 2017 when the books came out. And basically
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  Speaker 1: he pays a company to cryo-freeze his head so that someday...
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  Speaker 1: It can be reanimated when the medical technology is there.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen this on Star Trek kind of before, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And it basically tells the story about after he wakes up.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a ton of Star Trek references. Any sci-fi
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  Speaker 1: fan would love it. Any Star Trek fan would really,
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  Speaker 1: really love it. And it's, I'm just, I'm almost done
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  Speaker 1: with book one of the, apparently it's a series called
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  Speaker 1: The Bobverse. And it's, it's, it's got everything. It's got the, it's,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I, I'm not, I'm not huge into audio
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  Speaker 1: books or novels or anything like that, but this really, really,
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  Speaker 1: and I've got ADHD. So my attention span is, is
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  Speaker 1: that of a gnat. So, but this really drew me in.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really fascinating. So if anybody's into audiobooks or
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  Speaker 1: books or anything like that, check out We Are Legion,
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  Speaker 1: the Bobverse. It's really, really cool.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll have to check that out.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for the recommendation, Gabe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so our last news story comes to us
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  Speaker 3: from Magic the Gathering because it's right around the corner
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  Speaker 3: and the new Star Trek set is about to be released. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: pre-release is in like two weeks, the 7th. is when
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to an event. But yeah, so we're getting
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of new Star Trek mechanics in Magic the Gathering.
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  Speaker 3: Mechanics is basically new ways to play Magic, new things
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  Speaker 3: you can do in the game. And probably my favorite
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  Speaker 3: one is called Beam Me Up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And what this means is... So when you discard a card,
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  Speaker 3: it's called your graveyard. All those cards are in your graveyard.
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  Speaker 3: So you can now... pay mana, it's like the currency
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  Speaker 3: in Magic, and you can pay mana to beam me
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  Speaker 3: up and bring it out of your graveyard and onto
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  Speaker 3: the field or interior. So they're bringing that, that's a
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  Speaker 3: new mechanic. They've used it before, they call it other stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but they're calling it beam me up, so that's pretty fun.
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  Speaker 3: The other one that I thought was kind of interesting
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  Speaker 3: is they're calling, they're making a new mechanic, completely new,
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  Speaker 3: called Dilemmas, and basically there's cards in Magic the Gathering
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  Speaker 3: that'll say you can either do this or this, right?
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  Speaker 3: It'll give you two options, right? And you pick which
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  Speaker 3: option you're going to do in the game. Well, now
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  Speaker 3: in Star Trek, they're going to say if you face
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  Speaker 3: a dilemma, meaning a choice between, you know, on those cards,
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  Speaker 3: you get an advantage. It'll give you some sort of
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  Speaker 3: advantage in the Star Trek cards.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Because these cards will play with all the other Magic
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  Speaker 3: the Gathering cards.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Like, you know, when you mentioned, like, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: played Magic in about eight or nine years. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: I've only played it once or twice. But I remember
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  Speaker 1: some of the concepts you're talking about, like Graveyard and
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  Speaker 1: things like that. I wouldn't mind. I've got some friends
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  Speaker 1: that play Magic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Gabe on the chat, he plays Magic. In fact, he's
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  Speaker 1: one of the ones that I played with before. My
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  Speaker 1: buddy Steve plays Magic. Oh, nice. So one of these days,
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  Speaker 1: if I end up getting a a magic set we'll
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  Speaker 1: have to, I'll, we'll have to play and I'll have
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  Speaker 1: to report back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So basically, I don't know how much you remember
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  Speaker 3: about magic, but it's, there's when the cards are released,
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  Speaker 3: but the week before they have what they call pre-release.
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  Speaker 3: So not the full line of that card is really
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  Speaker 3: like you can buy, you can only buy like packs and,
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  Speaker 3: and what they call pre-release kits, which is like a,
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  Speaker 3: just a bundling of packs. So on the, on November 7th,
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  Speaker 3: At my local shop, they're going to do a pre-release,
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  Speaker 3: meaning a bunch of people get a bunch of new packs,
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  Speaker 3: and you all play against each other. So you're playing
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  Speaker 3: sight unseen cards. You got to quickly put together a deck,
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  Speaker 3: and you're just playing to try out the new cards, right?
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  Speaker 3: It's not serious. You're just having fun. And yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: my buddy and I already signed up for it.
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  Speaker 1: As opposed to the other Magic games? Like the serious
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  Speaker 1: Magic games?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. There are serious ones. God, there are people
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  Speaker 3: who take it way too seriously. But yes, it's just
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  Speaker 3: a card game, people. Just have fun with it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so my buddy and I, we're going to go. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to go to this pre-release. And maybe I'll shoot
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  Speaker 3: a video if I remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be awesome. I'm loving that card that we
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  Speaker 1: can see on the screen for those of you who
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  Speaker 1: are just listening to podcasts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The
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  Speaker 1: beam me up card. It says open communications. And the
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  Speaker 1: picture on it is Riker. And he's holding... All you
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  Speaker 1: see is the hand of the... What we're supposing is
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  Speaker 1: a female. And the look on his face is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he's about to open his communications.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to Kirk you tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's other cards on here. There's like a
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  Speaker 3: seven of nine. See, like, whenever you face up the dilemma,
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  Speaker 3: draw a card. So if you got a card that
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  Speaker 3: gives you options... You also get to draw a card
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  Speaker 3: on top of that. Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Command decisions. Right here. Choose one. Destroy a creature with
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  Speaker 3: a power of four or greater, or draw a card.
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  Speaker 3: So you could use that in conjunction with your 709 card,
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  Speaker 3: and now you're drawing more cards.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pretty straightforward game. Even for somebody as dim-witted
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  Speaker 1: as myself, I was able to catch on pretty quickly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The instructions are right there on the card, what you
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  Speaker 1: can and can't do, and there's symbols to let you
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  Speaker 1: know what it is and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Gabe says check out Live Long and Prosper.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Live Long and Proper. Proper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's it's there's a lot going on. Oh, shoot.
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  Speaker 3: There's a Benjamin Sisko card. Let's see. What does this say?
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  Speaker 1: Legendary creature. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: At the beginning of your end step, create a one
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  Speaker 3: one red officer creature token for each dilemma you face
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  Speaker 3: this turn. Wow. Let's see if you pay. It looks
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  Speaker 3: like seven mana. One of each color and plus two more.
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  Speaker 3: Exile the top five cards of your library. You may
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  Speaker 3: cast any number of these spells with mana value less
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  Speaker 3: than or equal to the number of officers you control
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  Speaker 3: from among those cards without paying their mana cost. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty strong.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there we go. There's going to be a ton,
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  Speaker 3: a ton of cards. I'm excited. It'll be a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a Magic the Gathering game in
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  Speaker 1: my future, so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. I would suggest getting a pre-release deck. Or,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, a pre-con deck. They have the commander pre-con
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  Speaker 3: decks already ready to play.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to kill them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Pre-con deck. I'll have to.
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  Speaker 3: Right on. Well, that's all the news stories that we have.
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  Speaker 1: I've got one more announcement.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, go for it.
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  Speaker 1: So I talked to the owner of the Grand Rapids
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  Speaker 1: Comic Con. He sent out a mass email about getting
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  Speaker 1: some posters. So behind me is a poster of the
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  Speaker 1: Grand Rapids Comic Con, as well as I got some
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  Speaker 1: cards here, too. So the Grand Rapids Comic Con is
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  Speaker 1: going to be November 13th, 14th, and 15th at the
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  Speaker 1: DeVos Place in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Guys, this con is
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  Speaker 1: the real deal. It's a big convention center.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's on par with anything you'd see in Chicago
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  Speaker 1: or anything like that. Or Indianapolis. It's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're anywhere in the southern Michigan area, I'm
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: going to be there late on the 13th. I'll be
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: there all day Saturday and part of the day on Sunday.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I'll be hanging out with some of the Starfleet International people.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: If they do a panel, I'm going to be involved
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: in the panel. So, uh, there's a lot of great, uh,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff there. Um, a lot of
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: great vehicles are going to be there. Um, so like the,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: I think the, the car from Harry Potter and, uh, the, uh,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the Jeep, the gas powered Jeep from Jurassic park replicas
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: are going to be there for photo ops and everything.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So there's going to be some, um, you know, mid
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: tier like comic book writers and celebrities and artists and,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Some on-screen celebrities and things. And the panels are great.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: So if you're going to be there, get a hold
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: of me. Send me a message on Facebook Messenger. We'll
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: do a meet-up. And so it's going to be fun.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: That's exciting, man. That'll be a lot of fun.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: The Grand Rapids Comic Con is always a big deal. Oh,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: that's cool. So we got some good performances by the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Harp Twins and the Wolfgang Twins. They do an awesome show.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And once you get in, it's all free.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: Oh, cool.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure you'll have a good time.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely. Okay.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Well, should we get to our main topic? Let's do it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: All right, so our main topic is we are reviewing
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the first episode of Center Seat 2. These are a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: series of Star Trek documentaries. They're available on YouTube. They
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: were put on by the Nacelle Company. They're also the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: company that does some of those Star Trek action figures
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that people are really excited about. So they also did the,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the Nassau company has also done a lot of documentaries.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: They did the, the toys that save us, the movies
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that made us those kinds of things.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So great docs too.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: And honestly, like you can see that DNA in the
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: center seat documentary.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's edited very similarly, very fast paced, very kind of
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: tongue in cheek. So, It was probably my favorite thing
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: about it. So this first one, they're all different topics.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: And this first one was about the movie Star Trek
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Generations and what it was like to put that on.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: We do have an IMDB page specifically for this one episode.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: And it got a 7.1 out of 10. So overall,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: people like it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yeah. That's about right. I mean. You know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: with these types of documentaries, it's not the first documentary
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that's been done about generation. You know, I joke about,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: this kind of felt like one of those TikTok or
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: YouTube short videos, you know, the top 10 things you
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: didn't know about generations, except I did because I, you know, uh, uh,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in the top 1% of Star Trek fans, as far as,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you know, right. Toot my own horn, but I know
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of crap about Star Trek and I know
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of crap about, uh, Star Trek generations. Because
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I've seen behind the scenes of every Star.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Trek movie that's ever existed multiple times.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: And if there's a different version of behind the scenes,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I'll watch that too.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I got to say, though, that it was nice to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: see some of the newer interviews. Yeah. With all the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: producers and writers and things. And I believe, was that
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: narrated by Gates McFadden?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was. Okay.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Dr. Crusher was narrating it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yep. And it was nice that she did it because
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: one of her chief complaints about this movie is she
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't in it that much.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: From other sources that I've... other documentaries that I've seen
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So it was nice that she
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: was willing to.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: She got to tell the story.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: She got to tell the story. And it's true that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: in a lot of her movies, in a lot of
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the movies that she's in, the Star Trek movies, there's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not a ton for her character to do or to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: say because, you know, it's not a doctor-centered storyline.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Right, right. She's just kind of there.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Right. It doesn't matter if it's Dr. Crusher or Dr. Bashir.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: There's not, in these stories, in these movies, these four movies,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot for the doctor character to do, so.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Right, right. But, No, you know, unlike you, I didn't
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: know a lot of this stuff because I haven't followed
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: it that deeply. I didn't realize that there were two
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: competing scripts and whichever one they like better, that's the
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: one that we're going to go with. You know, Hollywood
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: still does that, right? Like there was recently, they were
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: commissioning two different G.I. Joe scripts, one from Max Landis
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: and one from Danny McBride. and apparently they have gone
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: with Danny McBride's script. So yes, this still happens all
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: So it's not new to Star Trek. I would love
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to know what that other script was. Do you know
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: by chance?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: The documentary touched on it a little bit. Yeah. No,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know the full details of the script, but
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear what could have been.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And it's interesting that when you have Because I can
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: imagine the producers and the director and some of the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: writers might, like, hold their breath as somebody like William
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Shatner comes on the set. Because, you know, when William
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Shatner comes on the set and says, you know, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: think that maybe we should, you know, if it's a lower,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: if it's some other person, if it's, you know, maybe
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Gates McFadden or Michael Dorn saying maybe we should do whatever,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the producers and director can kind of go, eh, get
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: out of here, kid, you're bothering me. But when William
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Shatner comes on the set and says, you know, when
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: he starts throwing his weight around.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: That's a different story.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: That's a different story. Yeah. So, yeah, I can imagine
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: being a little bit nervous when some of those big,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: big wigs come on the set. But it's interesting to hear,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you know, Braga's and some of the producers and writers
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: talk about their experiences. And that's why I said earlier,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I like the fact that they had newer interviews. Yeah.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did like that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And a bit. And as time goes on, you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the perspectives that these people have compared to the perspective
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: they have when they're filming the behind the scenes for
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: the movie, for the DVD release 20 years ago, their
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: perspectives change a little bit.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: No, it was a lot of fun. I like how
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: fast paced the documentary was. They're about, what, 45 minutes roughly.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: And so there's four other episodes. There's five of them total.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: So we'll be going through them. But, yeah, they're a
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: lot of fun. You know, I don't know the topics
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: of the other ones. It could be all the generation
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: movies that it could be like, you know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Well, they might go through them. Yeah. I read some
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: of the episode three.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: I think episode two is about first contact.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I think I could be wrong.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: That would be.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I'm sure we could Google this, but I kind of
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: want to be surprised.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Another thing, you know, one of the things
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: they talked about, which, again, it's something I knew before,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: but the original death scene for Kirk was he was
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: going to get shot in the back by Sawyer.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And that's how he died.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: And you see it. They have the raw footage of it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: They do. They do. They shot it. They shot the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: footage and everything. And they were like, no, we don't
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like this. And all the producers and the directors and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the writers were like, sorry, we don't have time to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: do anything. So this is the way it's going to be.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Because when they said they were going to do this movie,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: they had a release date before they had a script,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a director, the final name of the movie. They said, hey,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: this is coming out in November of 1994, whether you
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: want it to or not.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to give a quick hot take. When
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you say, oh, Kirk dies getting shot in the back,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: that sounds bad. But when you saw the raw footage
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and how it went down, I don't think it was
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: as bad as people say.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I don't love it. I don't know it, but it's
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: not this like horrible thing.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: He's just right. I mean, he's going to die. He's
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: going to die. But I think people didn't like that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a hero's death. You know, there, there wasn't
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: any drama about it. It was, you get shot in
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the back. How do you, how does James T. Kirk
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: died by getting shot in the back?
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Garrick did say that is the safest way.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It is the safest way after all.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But, uh, and, and they were going to just, they
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: were going to go with it until they, they, they
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: showed it to, to some test audiences and the test
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: audience are like, no, I don't think so.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: So they're like, well, on the bridge bridge on the captain.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. What, what are they going to do? And
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: they said, well, we've still got the sets up. We
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: still let's have them just fall from the bridge. Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And they scrambled and got everybody together. And, um, William
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Shatner has told the story before, and they told the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: story of how he came up with the oh my.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: He ad-libbed oh my. And I thought that was perfect.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I really did. I give Generations maybe a 6.5 out
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of 10. But I thought that death scene, that minute
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of movie was done really well. I thought he did
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a really good death scene. You know, it was fun.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And then just staring off into the distance as if
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: he's seeing something that the audience is never going to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: know what he's seeing and just saying, oh my.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I thought it was great.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: The movie's not that great. It's fine. It's not.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: But it had some great moments. They also talk about the,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know, just speaking about death, you know, dying. The
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Enterprise D. Yeah. The Enterprise D died.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It got done, blowed up. Yeah. And they talked about the, uh, the,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the saucer landing sequence was absolutely incredible. Um, I loved
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: it watching it in 94 and rewatching it like we
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: did earlier this year, last year, it was still great.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It still holds up. It's still an amazing sequence.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I love how big the model was. Didn't they say
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: it was like 15 inches across?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: It's huge.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: It's huge.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: 15 feet.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: 15 feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And it was resettable. The way they did it is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: they just had it on this arm that came out
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of the ground. Yeah. And when they wanted to reset,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: they just brought it back up the hill and did
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: all the shrubbery over the little where the arm comes out.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: All the miniatures.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All the miniatures. And they could reset it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So. Yeah, and they touched on that whole sequence a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: little bit, and that was cool.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a good documentary, and I think we're going
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: to have fun watching the other ones.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: I think so.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Right on.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: How many do they have out?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I think there's five of them total, I think. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I never saw the first round of Center Seat.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't either. It might be something we might.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I went looking for them, and I couldn't find them.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I think they're on the History Channel's streaming service or
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like they got five episodes out so far.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll go through them. That'll get us straight to
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: about Thanksgiving, and then we'll figure something out after that.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: We need content, man. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: You got to feed that beast.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Skydance. I mean, whoever's going to be in
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: charge then.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Jacob, Vision Quest is really good.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: We've only seen the first episode, so we're going to.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Three and four dropped this week, too.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Okay. And Jacob, you are right. It is a Christmas movie.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Star Trek Generations.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Generations is a Christmas movie, yes.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Well, should we get to listener feedback?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Love it. All right. Love to.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Listener feedback.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: We do have a voicemail, but before we get to that,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: if you want to join us in listener feedback and
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: you want to join us on the show, please put
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: an X in the chat and I'll send you the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: link so you can join us. We're also across social media. media,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: all across social media at TrekCastTNG. You can find us
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, Instagram, all the socials. We're there.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: We're loving every minute of it. But we do have
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a voicemail. I was actually surprised we got one, but
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: we got one. And so let's play that voicemail.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: This was a really good episode of this documentary series.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I actually learned some stuff.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: No, it was good.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Anyone else think Captain Kirk's death should have been different?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: And have you guys seen, like, the.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Magic card set for Star Trek?
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff in there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Looking forward to getting it, especially making a Borg deck
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: for those who actually play Magic's Gathering.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Anyways, have a good one.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's actually going to be a Borg pre-con deck.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So that'll be exciting.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Really? Okay.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you want to join us,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: if you want to leave us a voicemail in the future,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: you absolutely can. Call us and leave us a voicemail.
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: 570-661-0001.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: That's 570-661-0001. We'd love to hear from you and have
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: you and turn you into a little animated creature.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a penguin. And you can email us, too.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: We've got an email. You can do trekcasttng at gmail.com.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: If you want to email me personally, it's strongbeard1701 at gmail.com.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: And I will read your email live on the air.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Awesome. Scott, I'll let you pick. We got Jacob and
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: we got Chazbiz going. Do you want to do one
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: at a time or do you want to bring them
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: both on?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Bring them both on.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Let's do it. Jasmine says do it. We're bringing them
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: both on. They're all here. How you guys doing, guys?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Vietnam.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Did you guys watch the documentary? Which documentary was it again?
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: The Center Seat, the first episode.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I have not.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't looked it up.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: It's on YouTube.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I haven't looked it up.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all free. These documentaries are all free on YouTube, so. Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: What's it about? Star Trek?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Generations.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: This one.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: The first one. Okay.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: And my dad's got the Generation poster, the 25th anniversary,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: a long time ago.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I remember that poster.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got all kinds of posters from way back
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: in the 80s and 90s.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: That's how old I am, because I'm remembering the 25th
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: anniversary poster when Generations came out, and now they're celebrating 60.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if my math is right, but that
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: seems like 35 years. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I just turned 35 last Sunday.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, happy birthday. Happy birthday.
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: You're just young.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: You're a puppy.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: You're just a young pup.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm a cripple.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: He has to drink his coffee. So I was just.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Reading here, the center seat, the first one, 55 years
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: of Star Trek, there was 11 episodes that came out,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and it came out like in 2000.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: It would be five years ago.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 2021 through 2022.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, during COVID times. Here, nerds, watch this while you're
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: locked in.
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, right, right. How the crap did we know this?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: There was a lot going on in the world at
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: that time.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: What show was going on in 2020? I've been watching
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the whole movie.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: The episode names are great. Lucy Loves Trek, Saturday Morning Pinks,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Trekking Through the 70s, Trek Goes to the Movies, Whale's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: God and Pepto-Bismol, QQQ.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time. That's great.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I think the fourth film was my favorite growing up
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: as a kid.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: The Whales?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I fell in love with the movies more than the
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: TV shows and then I fell in love with the
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: shows later on.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: My favorite of the original movies has got to be
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: The Undiscovered Country. I watched it over and over. In fact,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: my buddy that's on the chat, Gabe. We're talking 35
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: years ago. He'd come over to the house and we'd watch, like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: what do you want to put on? Let's watch Undiscovered Country.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: We must have watched Undiscovered Country two dozen times.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I couldn't even count how many times I've seen it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Between that and First Contact.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: First Contact is my other favorite movie.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: That was on HBO, Jasper?
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Well, okay.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: From Star Trek 4, 5, and 6. Yeah. Those were
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: all on repeat growing up.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't into Star Trek as a kid. I
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: didn't get into it until I was like 19 or 20.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: So I didn't grow up with any of the movies.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: I probably saw Star Trek 5 and 6 more times
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: than any of them.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. When I saw Wrath of Khan, I thought that
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: was the first movie. Because everyone told me to start
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: with that one. And it wasn't until later I found out,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: oh no, there's one before it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: Yes, because when I was really little, they had Kahn on, right?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: And that scared the crap out of me, because the
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: ear thing.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: I always thought that was a creepy movie.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Well, I thought, like, when I finally went to go
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: watch the first one, or, you know, before doing this show,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I thought the first movie was like, oh, because Rathacon
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: is such a, like... It's a sequel. And I thought
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: the first movie was how they met Khan and how
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: they stopped him the first time and now he's back.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: It was not, apparently. I know.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Totally different.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Whenever I start a Star Trek movie binge, I usually
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: skip one. Yeah.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Most people do.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Most people do.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Two, three, and four is like one big movie.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I put on the first one, I'm out. I'm going
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to sleep.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nice to go to sleep with that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: You know, something I just read about movies three and
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: four was there. This is in the novelization, but it's not,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it wasn't shot or anything like that. It was about
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: how Uhura got from earth to Vulcan. Cause if you remember,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: she helps everybody escape in the search for Spock. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: then at the end, and then she's there at the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: end of the movie, in three and then she goes
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: off and has her adventure in four. Yeah. Well, cause
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: she helps them escape. So she's a, Oh, she's a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: wanted criminal too. So in the novelization, I didn't read it,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but I read about it. She escapes Starfleet headquarters and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just barely makes it to the Vulcan embassy. Oh, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that's how she's able to get transport to Vulcan. She
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: escapes to the Vulcan embassy.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: So many times I never thought about how did Ahura
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: end up there?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Right. Apparently that's in the novelization. I'm going to have
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to find the audiobook and listen to it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: They just have AI do a whole 30 minute video.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: They did an AI picture of it. They show Ahura
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: standing behind a gate with Sarek. And there's two Starfleet
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: security officers on the other side of the gate from
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the 23rd century wearing their Starfleet security helmets and chest protectors.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: You can't get me. I've almost caught up on Enterprise
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Season 4. I've been re-watching the Orville.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Y'all know we're getting a new Ted animated series coming
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: out on Peacock.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I heard about that.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I just started watching Ted. Oh, nice.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I am not yet on Vision Quest.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Vision Quest is good. I'm excited this week. Dexter Resurrection
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Season 2 comes out, and I love that show.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Dexter series.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife watched that.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: Do you guys have Apple?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I haven't got it yet.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Amazon Music.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Willow Bay?
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: Widow's Bay.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Widow's Bay, yes. I have not watched it. It's on
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: my list. I really want to see it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: It's actually really good.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really like Pluribus. That was great.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I watched Pluribus.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: Spooky and funny at the same time.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I will have to watch that.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: If you've got Apple, For All Mankind is 100% binge-worthy. Yeah, definitely.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I've heard of it.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: I tried watching like three episodes. I'm like, why is
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: this so slow?
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I just finished the first draft of my new screenplay.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And so my reward for myself is I'm going to
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: go watch Clay Bays today. Okay.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I'm going to wait for that to drop on Friday.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know about your area, Jacob, but I live
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: in an area with Regal Theaters. And so they have
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: a pass for $ 25 a month. You can go to
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: the movies anytime you want.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: We got a family theater. There have been so many
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: different families that bought the theater.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: It's like $ 4.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: 25 for a ticket.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's not bad. It's like $ 4 small. like four screens.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: It's not fancy, but it's a theater and it's cheap.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: We've got a cheaper theater like that. It's about a
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: half hour away. Whenever we've got a big group of people.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I could bring our family, like five people, popcorn, everything
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: for like $ 60. Yeah.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: Do you guys smuggle in food?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: Like contraband and all that?
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I like weird stuff, Mike. I like frozen blueberries, like
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: the freeze-dried blueberries.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: Are you eating spaghetti out of a Ziploc or whatever?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I am.
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: Sticking your hands in there.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Tamales. Just bringing in tamales.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: In a town about 30 minutes from here, they actually
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: got a rare drive-in theater.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: There's not that many left, though.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: We got one about two hours for me.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Watch Star Trek on a drive-in would be nice.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: One thing about a drive-in is you've got too many
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: distractions and the sound sucks.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Because they give you the hangs on your window and
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: that speaker sounds like you're listening to a sonic car.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Or if you leave your car running the whole time,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: that's so much gas.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Or if you just leave the battery on, that's just Or.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Somebody turns on their car and washes out the whole screen.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Or it can be like a twister and just have
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: a tornado go through the theater.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The drive-in that's two hours away from me, they
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: let you rent out little radios and you just have
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the radio in your car. But I would think nowadays,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: why not just have an app that you can just
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: play the movie audio from.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought the way they did it is you
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: turned it into a radio frequency.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Right, but then you've got to leave your car either
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: idling the entire time or just the battery on your car.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Either way, you're kind of screwed.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: You have two giant inputs to adjust.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: Especially if you have a loud truck or something.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: Turn it on.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Nobody's got a big muffler on their cars.
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: I saw Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull that way.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: And I was like, I was kind of irritated. I
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: was like, I don't like this. It's like the movie
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: wasn't good. And plus, you know, you.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Want to drive in cast.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: What do you mean the movie wasn't good?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was the best Indiana Jones movie.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I know. It was not. It was so bad.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: It was one of the worst.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I still say Sean Connery should have joined Star Trek.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: 100%.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: There you go. The skull.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Make it show. Make it show.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: So, hey, would you guys like if we got those
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Star Trek Choose Your Own Adventure books and let the
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: chat decide?
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: That'd be funny.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We have to do that one of these days.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: All right. Center seat. Center seat. Okay.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They're on YouTube.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: All five of them. Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: They posted it. Was it yesterday you posted it?
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: And then earlier this week.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: We'll post it in the group. You'll see it there.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: But sometimes it gets buried on Facebook. That's the issue
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: with Facebook.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Well, the Facebook group is popping, man. People communicate.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: I've been seeing rumors about year one possibly happening.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: No, that's not happening. Like I said, rumors.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what they wanted to do
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: post Strange New Worlds was build up to year one.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: But it's not going to happen.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: That's why I know it's fake. That's how I knew
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: it was fake. What was that, Cheskis?
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: So the Kurtzman era is over after the merger.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, not officially yet, but, you know, signs are
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: not looking good.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I just hope Kurtzman.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: I heard something could happen. Maybe a trillionaire might buy
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Star Trek.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Franks. Jonathan Franks.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: He's not a trillionaire.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Terry Metallus, Jonathan Frakes.
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like, there's only one trillionaire.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Now we know.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: There's estimates that some of the guys in the.
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: He's spelled out Paramount.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'll be an Elon Musk fan if he just gives,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: you know, Terry Metallus and Jonathan Frakes like, you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: $ 100 billion. Go ahead and make whatever you want.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I don't want an Enterprise with the Tesla logo on it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: That's what would happen.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: A Tesla Enterprise.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: It'd be called Star Trek X.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Well, wasn't that an industry?
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: And then the.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Star Treks with an X on it. We don't need that.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: He's going to have the Enterprise doing flips like that roadster.
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: It'll be the Enterprise X.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: We already got that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: We got the Defiant. Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: In the future, it'd be the Enterprise X.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I could see the Defiant turning into a Tesla.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: There was an old fake tweet when J.J. Abrams was
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: doing Star Trek, and it was something along the lines of,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: you guys keep complaining, I'm going to put flames on
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: the Enterprise.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I saw a meme years ago when Disney acquired Star Wars,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: and it said.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: faster Sulu before Disney acquires us.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that. I don't know.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Would that have been a bad thing if Disney acquired
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: Star Trek?
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: I don't know. That's a good question.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Well, are Star Wars fans happy with what's happened?
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: No.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Nobody's happy.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Up and down.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: There's a new season of Ahsoka coming out in January.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: That I'm looking forward to.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: That I'm looking forward to.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to Doomsday.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Doomsday?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: We just got a new teaser.
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: Your tickets for Doomsday, have you?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: No, not yet.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: We'll do an episode on Doomsday.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure we will.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Doomscast.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: I got my Thursday ticket. I mean, the theater's already
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: pretty much sold out.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: I bought it two weeks ago. I couldn't believe there's
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Every single seat is gone.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'll start working on my introduction for our Doomsday cast.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping the Paklids have a review for us.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I'll talk to my people.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I love the Paklids review on Doomsday.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'll talk to my people.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: I'm going to get a Stark t-shirt.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Just to confuse everybody.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: If we can figure out a way to get Gold
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Dukat's review, I'm sure he's going to be like, Dr.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Doom was horribly... Nobody understood him.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: Like, on X, you know, on Twitter.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: And every day he'd have a post, you know?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: He still has them. He's still there.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: He must be great on my Twitter, but it was hilarious.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: All his posts were great.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I haven't had a Twitter account in a while.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Everything's all right.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I haven't been on my Twitter account in a long time. Like,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't get on it anymore.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while for me, too. I mean,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the least thing I get on nowadays.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: But, TrekCast is hopping on Facebook and Instagram. What else
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: are we on? We are on X. We're on TikTok.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: TikTok.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: We're on all the things.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. We're on all over. Yeah, I
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: think that's pretty much wrapping it up before we get
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: into all these other little side quests.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: We'll be back, I don't know, next week probably with.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: The Episode two?
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's five of those episodes, so we'll do episode
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: two next week.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I'll start binging them.
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: We'll catch you guys next time.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: See you later.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, for being on.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 47:53
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• 47:56
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