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- 0:04All the right movies. It's a Wonderful Life was
- 0:07released in 1946 and has become the definitive Christmas movie.
- 0:11Frank Capra's tale of a suicidal man shown the value of his life
- 0:14by a wingless Angel. The film is a story of hope,
- 0:16community and the impact we have on those around us.
- 0:19My name is John and the building and loan associates with me are
- 0:23Luke. I want a big one.
- 0:25Westie. That does it out.
- 0:26You 2 Pixies go through the door or out the window.
- 0:30And Matt? Happy New Year to you.
- 0:32In jail. It's Christmas Eve in Bedford
- 0:34Falls and ATRM are spreading some holiday cheer as we talk
- 0:38the film that proves no one is a failure who has friends.
- 0:41Hot dog. Hello and welcome to All the
- 1:04Right Movies. We serve hard drinks for men who
- 1:06want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around
- 1:08to give the joint atmosphere correct.
- 1:10I'm looking at you, Matt. Yeah, I'm going after this.
- 1:13Don't worry, we tell the story of Hollywood one film at a time
- 1:18here. And this Christmas, all four of
- 1:20us are here because we've got one of the biggest theories.
- 1:24We sure do. We do.
- 1:26We're going all the way back to 1946 to talk Jimmy Stewart
- 1:29Angels without wings and spread general yield tide fun as we
- 1:33bring you the making of Frank Capra's holiday treasure, It's a
- 1:36Wonderful life. Nice.
- 1:38Perfect. See.
- 1:39And that as if we didn't know what was coming.
- 1:42Oh, we're here. It's a wonderful life.
- 1:44Oh, is that what we're doing? Excellent.
- 1:45Dropping that on you from nowhere.
- 1:46No problem, I'm all prepped for Bad Santa, but never mind.
- 1:50That's why we're all here, just to help each other out a little
- 1:52bit. Well, no, Paul, this time we did
- 1:54just dive straight in like an underground swimming pool.
- 1:57So we should probably explain. Matt, why are we talking about
- 2:00it? It's a wonderful life.
- 2:01Yes, I mean, like a lot of people, this one's very personal
- 2:05to me. I remember it being on in the
- 2:07background when I was a kid at Christmas, but I never paid that
- 2:09much attention to it. But I can vividly remember one
- 2:12year I'd finished sixth form for Christmas, came home, started
- 2:15the Christmas holidays and thought, you know what, I'm
- 2:16going to give this a proper watch.
- 2:18I want to see what the deal is. Why do people like, love this
- 2:20one so much? And since then, it's been the
- 2:23absolute cornerstone of this time of year for me.
- 2:25Like any other Christmas film, it's fine for don't get around
- 2:27to watching it, but not this one.
- 2:29And it's a very rare film in that the older I get, the more I
- 2:33get out of it somehow, the more I sympathize and understand what
- 2:36George is feeling and going through.
- 2:38But also, more importantly, how to recognize your own importance
- 2:42in life and view yourself through the perspective of
- 2:44others, which I think is really important.
- 2:46It takes you on an incredible journey and after all these
- 2:49years of doing this podcast, I've never cried on a recording
- 2:52yet. Let's see if I still hold to by
- 2:54the end of this one. We shall see.
- 2:57First time for everything, yeah? Well, it's sticking around for
- 3:00yeah, yeah, 2 1/2. Hours and Luke, how about you?
- 3:04When It's a Wonderful Life. Yeah, I mean, this is only a
- 3:07matter of time. The best Christmas movie and the
- 3:09best movie podcast together at last.
- 3:11Nice. I didn't watch the film until
- 3:14into my teens like Matt. Matt.
- 3:15I'm not too sure if it was so much of A seasonal standard in
- 3:19the UK as it is now. Obviously it was in the USI
- 3:24don't really feel it took hold until the 90s.
- 3:26So it wasn't really a thing when I was that young over here, at
- 3:29least anywhere. But I did love it on 1st watch.
- 3:32I think there are a handful of films that have elite level
- 3:35status. We've covered the majority of
- 3:37them, the ones that could be considered the greatest in their
- 3:40particular genre or greatest of all time, and I think this is
- 3:43one of them. I think it's up there with the
- 3:44likes of The Godfather of Citizen Kane.
- 3:47Yeah. And a yearly Christmas table for
- 3:49a good reason. A true classic.
- 3:50And it's inclusion on the podcast.
- 3:52I mean, it was just a certainty. Definitely.
- 3:55It was going to happen at some point and I didn't say It's a
- 3:58Wonderful Life when I was a child.
- 3:59I mean, not a small one. I was about 1415 I think, first
- 4:03time I saw it. It was on one Christmas Eve, I
- 4:05think on BBC Two. It's on every Christmas Eve in
- 4:07the UK isn't it? Yeah, obviously I heard about it
- 4:10and knew it was a classic. Didn't massively interest me as
- 4:13an uncultured kid. I was more interested in Home
- 4:16Alone or A Charlie Brown Christmas.
- 4:18Brilliant. Still great.
- 4:20Which are both still awesome obviously, but when I watched it
- 4:22as a teenager I did think it was great.
- 4:24Seen it many times since, so looking forward to getting into
- 4:27how we all feel about it now. And beyond the emotions, of
- 4:30which there's a lot, there's law to talk about Jimmy Stewart in
- 4:34the lead. Obviously don't.
- 4:35I read opposite him first time for us with her and with Frank
- 4:38Capra directing at the peak of his powers.
- 4:41Some highly acclaimed filmmaking and a behind the scenes tale
- 4:44that doesn't always match the joy we see on the screen, so
- 4:48it's a really interesting one. Very true.
- 4:50Yeah, it's a Christmas special. So we're about to go then.
- 4:53It's a Wonderful Life, The True Meaning of Christmas Classic.
- 4:56So this should be great I think. Yeah, no.
- 4:59Guaranteed. And Westie, you're here to sing
- 5:01the praises of Mr. Potter, presumably.
- 5:04But possibly, yeah. I mean, he's the hero for me,
- 5:06let's be honest. No, it's again, it's just it's
- 5:10an absolute tradition for us. It was me.
- 5:12Dad got into this and sat down. So you'll have to watch this on
- 5:15Christmas Eve and every single year since then.
- 5:17I remember the first time I saw it, and I just been absolutely
- 5:20kind of transported by it. Just that feeling of joy.
- 5:23Even now, if you've just watched the ending on YouTube, it still
- 5:25hits you even though you know you haven't gone through the
- 5:27whole film. It's very, very rare for a film
- 5:29to do that. I think there's just everything
- 5:31about this is just beautiful acting.
- 5:33I think that you know, the way it's shot, the way it's all
- 5:35realized, not only the ultimate Christmas film, but I think the
- 5:38ultimate feel good film. It's just one of them films that
- 5:41I worry every year that it's not going to hit as hard.
- 5:43I keep thinking I've seen it too many times that this isn't going
- 5:46to work this year, and it always does.
- 5:48Somehow it always seems to pull it out of the bag and smack
- 5:51home, and unfortunately it just gets more and more relevant
- 5:54every single year. I think people forget the actual
- 5:57message and the actual tone of this film is just, you know,
- 6:00it's about community and it's about selflessness and it's
- 6:02about caring about your fellow man and caring about somebody
- 6:06else. And people keep forgetting that
- 6:08every year. And every year this comes back
- 6:09and reminds me. It just really, really is a
- 6:12universal film. It's one for everybody.
- 6:14I'll recommend it to anybody and I don't get sick of it and I'm
- 6:16really excited to talk about it. Well, it's a Wonderful Life.
- 6:20It's produced by Liberty Films, distributed by Archaeo Radio
- 6:23Pictures, and released on December the 20th, 1946.
- 6:26Filmed at Archaeopathy Studios in Culver City, CA, it was
- 6:30directed by Frank Capra, written by Capra, Francis Goodrich and
- 6:34Albert Hackett, based on the novella The Greatest Gift by
- 6:36Philip Van Doren Stern, and it stars James Stewart as George
- 6:40Bailey, Donna Read as Mary Hatch Bailey, Lionel Barrymore as Mr.
- 6:43Potter, Thomas Mitchell as Uncle Billy, and Henry Travers as
- 6:47Clarence. Odd Body Angel second class, but
- 6:50not for long. Not for long, no.
- 6:51No. Shall we step into Christmas
- 6:53then? Let's do it.
- 6:55Let's go. OK, Brilliant.
- 6:57Time to lasso the moon. It's Bedford Falls via deep
- 7:00space, weirdly. Yeah, always forget about that.
- 7:05It's the beginning of It's a Wonderful Life.
- 7:11The beginning. Many of the famous moments and
- 7:16It's a Wonderful Life come in the final act, but that's not to
- 7:19say the first actors fella. Far from it.
- 7:21And we're going to talk about some huge sequences, a young
- 7:24George Bailey becoming reacquainted with a young Mary
- 7:27Hatchet. A pool party is coming up, but
- 7:29before that we're looking at some major character
- 7:31introductions. We are.
- 7:34So after a tote happened, Buffalo Gals opening credit
- 7:37sequence to lead us in, we're thrown right into Bedford Falls.
- 7:40It's Christmas Eve and everybody's praying for George
- 7:42Bailey. The first scenes bring us a trip
- 7:44to the cosmos to meet Clarence, a trip to 1919 to meet young
- 7:48George and the youngsters life in his hometown.
- 7:52Do you wish you had $1,000,000 Worth it?
- 7:54Hot dog every time. What do you think of the opening
- 7:58moments? I think the opening moments are
- 7:59great. I especially love the
- 8:01introduction to George here. I think he's great, so well
- 8:03played and it's just it's lads in it, lads doing what lads do.
- 8:07Lads, lads, lads. I mean, who, who hasn't done
- 8:09this sliding down on a on a spade, you know, snowy bank?
- 8:13Fantastic. Stuff I got shovel in it.
- 8:15Really dangerous, really hazardous, but you know, that's
- 8:18just kids in it. But I think it's a foreshadowing
- 8:21in this of all the characters. It's Harry shows he's bravery,
- 8:23says he's not scared, foreshadows what he's going to
- 8:25do later on in the film. He shouts for George for help
- 8:29even before he kind of gets into trouble, just before he falls
- 8:31in, he's screaming for help from George.
- 8:33You know George is going to help and it's how selfless George is.
- 8:36He's just everything's off and he's straight in without
- 8:37thinking about it. So it's just these great
- 8:39character moments and sets of Sam Wainwright's E or you're
- 8:42going to get that later. You're going to think he's going
- 8:44to grow a bit, but he doesn't really.
- 8:45Does he grow up, Sam get a hold of it?
- 8:48No idea how he's successful in business, but I guess you've
- 8:50just got to be childlike for that to work out.
- 8:52But it's just a great introduction to everybody.
- 8:54Marty's in there. You kind of get everybody and
- 8:56know everybody. There's this individuality to
- 8:58the group, but to me that doesn't seem that deep when
- 9:02Harry falls in, does it? What's he bothered about?
- 9:05Just get out. Just stand up.
- 9:07Just terrified. But again, I mean, it's just a
- 9:10foreshadow and I love in this, I love this like a sign there that
- 9:12I'm not sure if that says it's Potter's Land or whatever.
- 9:14And some people have said that, and it was in an early version
- 9:17of the script, but there's just all these little bits that kind
- 9:19of point to it. But yeah, it's great.
- 9:20Great character. Settle.
- 9:23Yeah, I love how it starts. The first thing we've seen in
- 9:25the film is a montage of the shots of Bedford Falls and the
- 9:27voice overs of all the people praying.
- 9:29I love that sets up the final act, and it does establish this
- 9:31is a Christmas film. You know the next 90 minutes
- 9:33won't mention Christmas at all. Not at all.
- 9:36And then in outer space with God and Joseph as you do, and
- 9:40Clarence, obviously, and that dissolved transition from space
- 9:43to all the boys sledging to take us in.
- 9:45That's great. Yeah.
- 9:47Really slow dissolving it. Yeah, it is.
- 9:49Yeah. And narrativeia crumbs in Lords.
- 9:51We meet George, we meet Harry, his brother, and Clarence.
- 9:54The sledging accident that leads to George going deaf in his left
- 9:57ear. And the fact that George saves
- 9:58Harry, he does set up a huge and pretty dark moment later on.
- 10:02We'll talk about that, obviously, but I think it's
- 10:04really beautifully shot as well. And I'm a big fan of young
- 10:08George's Czech woolen jacket. It's great.
- 10:10Lovely number. Don't make it.
- 10:12I don't like that anymore. No.
- 10:13Nice piece, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I love the visual
- 10:16of this. It looks like it could be a
- 10:17Christmas card, you know, just as Wesley's been saying, just
- 10:20the lads going out sledging. Yeah.
- 10:22But yeah, it's one of those scenes where when you come back
- 10:24to it, it has so much more resonance because it's big
- 10:26enough. Obviously saving your brother's
- 10:28life, that's massive. But you don't expect that our
- 10:31further ramifications. But it does.
- 10:32As we've been saying. We'll get on now.
- 10:34Yeah. Great.
- 10:35We will indeed. You mentioned that there, John.
- 10:38We see Clarence talking to God and Joseph about George through
- 10:41the first act in one of the first versions of the script,
- 10:44though it didn't cut to space, we actually saw them.
- 10:47The big man wasn't their God. We would see Benjamin Franklin
- 10:50as the head Angel going to see Joseph in his workshop where
- 10:53Joseph was working on a new invention.
- 10:56Franklin, like the. Big man.
- 11:01Well, yeah, in the Bible, Joseph the Carpenter, hence the
- 11:03workshop. So it's quite a funny little
- 11:04idea. Yeah, but once it changed the
- 11:06space, though, it would have been a bit odd if Ben Franklin
- 11:08was just in there for no reason. Yeah, flashing.
- 11:11Star is he sick? No.
- 11:14Worse, he's discouraged. Is that close of.
- 11:17Course it is. Miles Worth.
- 11:21Yeah, in the first draft, the sequence where George says
- 11:23Harry's life was different as well.
- 11:25Originally, the boys weren't sledging.
- 11:27Get this, They'll play an ice hockey even more dangerous.
- 11:30Wayne Gretzky. The end of our plane on the
- 11:32lake, which is part of Potter's property, which is what we've
- 11:35touched on earlier there. As they're playing, Potter is
- 11:37looking at them furiously from his mansion with his binoculars
- 11:41probably, or a telescope, then hands up the space.
- 11:43That would be great. When George hits the put into
- 11:46Potter's yard, so Potter releases the dogs on them.
- 11:48The boys make a run for it and that's how Harry falls in the
- 11:51ice, where George then saves him.
- 11:53Mr. Burns. Mr. Burns releasing the dogs.
- 11:56Release the hounds. I mean, Pata pretty much is Mr.
- 11:59Burns, isn't he? Pretty much, yeah.
- 12:01Need to get muggy on the kids? Yeah, First thing to see is that
- 12:07George is full of effervescent energy.
- 12:10The kid George, that is just a bit.
- 12:12Yeah. I love how he announces himself
- 12:14to Mr. Gower with his full name. It's me, Mr. Gower.
- 12:16George Beale. How many Georges are on staff?
- 12:222nd is the 2 actors playing young Mary and Violet.
- 12:25They are absolutely glorious. Violet she's a bit of a floozy
- 12:30but George sees right through it.
- 12:32Help you down. Great.
- 12:36The real winner here is Mary. She's full of poise with a back
- 12:40to Violet. I'm still thinking.
- 12:41And when it's when Violet leaves and it's just her and George, it
- 12:46provides such an incredible strong foundation for the rest
- 12:48of the film. These two go this far back when
- 12:52Mary says, George Bailey, I love you to the day I die.
- 12:54Oh, yeah, I'm gonna already forget about this.
- 12:57And. She does.
- 12:59Yeah, but is this scene sponsored by a National
- 13:02Geographic? Because George proudly despairs
- 13:04that here when he's talking about his adventure spirit is
- 13:07like a TV ad. Yeah.
- 13:08Want to get his name in the National Geographic?
- 13:11Well, yes, explorers can get. Them.
- 13:15I mean, it's a charming little scene, I think.
- 13:17Ladies man, Young George, isn't he fighting them off with a
- 13:20stick? Of course he is.
- 13:21Shoelaces. Just tell them what you're
- 13:24having. These haven't shoelaces, of
- 13:26course. You.
- 13:27I mean, obviously we'll see Violet and especially Mary
- 13:29become adult characters later on, but yeah, even, yeah, Violet
- 13:31knows what she wants. Mary goes, you're like, every
- 13:33boy, what's wrong with that? And then George is like, I'm
- 13:38going to travel and I'm going to own a couple of hair rooms and
- 13:40maybe 3 or 4 wives. Isn't he like, 12?
- 13:44But I love the set as well. Of the drugstore.
- 13:46Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:47I mean, almost all the films filmed on archaeo sound stages
- 13:49in the production design is fantastic.
- 13:52Start here. It's incredible.
- 13:54Yeah, and then after this, you get like the next big event in
- 13:57George's life and mark this one down because this is the first
- 14:00time that I cry during this film.
- 14:02But not the last. Well, I'll see I've no the last
- 14:04trust you just. Start here and then it's
- 14:06consistent from here. I mean, when he saves Mr. Gower
- 14:10from poison, that kid, but Gower doesn't realize what he's done
- 14:12and he thinks he's just been skiving.
- 14:14I mean, it is still shocking to this day.
- 14:16Just our brutal low slaps are in what it does.
- 14:19This sets up the recurring theme of George's life in this film.
- 14:22He tries to do something good and he just gets punished
- 14:25forward straight away. He cannot catch a break.
- 14:27But the way it cuts from Gower just laying into him to those
- 14:30reaction shots of Mary flinching at the sound of each slap, like
- 14:34she can't even see what's happening.
- 14:35But the sound is so effective. That's how I think it is.
- 14:38But then you get Gala's realisation what George has just
- 14:41done for him and what he's likely saved him from.
- 14:43That is so effective when he goes to hug him and gratitude
- 14:46and George just backs away from don't hurt my sorry again, Don't
- 14:49hurt my sorry again like I'm 20 minutes in.
- 14:53I don't think I'm going to take any more.
- 14:56Yeah, no Jimmy Stewart yet, but I think all these kind of like
- 14:59prequel scenes, they're really important in setting up Georges
- 15:01character. You've already heard he wants to
- 15:03see the world, then we'll see here that he's brave, he's
- 15:05moral, he puts others perform himself even when it costs him.
- 15:08And that's his character throughout the film really.
- 15:11I think it's all really well set up in the writing and the
- 15:13beating is pretty brutal. Capra doesn't shy away from it.
- 15:17Is the go I get stuck right in? It's not.
- 15:20I mean, for a film to remember there's this warm Christmas
- 15:22classic. There is some dog stuff.
- 15:24Very much. There's more to come, but this
- 15:26is probably the first I think of those moments.
- 15:28Yeah. Yeah, the actor who plays young
- 15:31George is Bobby Anderson and he had an incredible career.
- 15:35His film debut was The Grapes of Wrath in 1940.
- 15:38Well, but this was his biggest role at the time.
- 15:40And then he was in another Christmas classic a year later
- 15:43in The Bishop's Wife. Yeah.
- 15:45He then moved into production design and worked on Columbo.
- 15:48Nice. The 70s series of Wonder Woman
- 15:51and the last film he worked on was Demolition Man in 19. 83
- 15:56I've read that, yeah. All the classics.
- 15:59Imagine Snipes in Stallone showing up here.
- 16:01Carnage in bed by 4. What's your boggle Be great.
- 16:08I think Bobby Anderson's pretty good young George.
- 16:10Yeah, he's great. Yeah.
- 16:11Slightly theatrical at times, but that's fine, it all works.
- 16:14Yeah, the time, isn't it? Yeah, it ties into the
- 16:16excitability of them, I think, the ambition.
- 16:19Yeah, and young Violet and Mary we should mention as well.
- 16:22Jean and Rose played child violence, her only ever film
- 16:25credit, and Jean Gale played Mary.
- 16:27She was in loads of films afterwards, but not like as a
- 16:29leader or anything. She's a chorus girl in Singing
- 16:32in the Rain. Right.
- 16:33Oh, wow. Nice.
- 16:34OK. Great look out for her there,
- 16:36yeah. And Mr. Gower is played by HB
- 16:39Warner and his great preceded cinema.
- 16:42He'd been in silent films as far back as 1914 and was most well
- 16:45known at the time for playing Jesus Christ in Cecil B De
- 16:49Mille's 1927 version of The King of Kings.
- 16:52And that was a huge film. Being shoes to fill huge.
- 16:55Huge sandals to fill there. And that was a huge film.
- 17:00But Warner ended up typecast afterwards, and Capra kind of
- 17:03brought him back into the Hollywood fold.
- 17:05He cussed me. And you can't take it with you.
- 17:07Mr. Smith goes to Washington and then it's going in.
- 17:09It's wonderful life. Typecast is Jesus Christ.
- 17:13Yeah, like Robert Powell. Robert.
- 17:16Powell. I'm surprised to learn that he
- 17:20was a big star as you ain't got the HP Warner.
- 17:22Do you know Sunset Blvd. Billy Wilder film?
- 17:25Yes, the famous scene where we see a bunch of real silent film
- 17:28stars playing poker. They're like playing themselves
- 17:30in the film. Buster Keaton's there, Anna
- 17:32Nielsen and one of them's HP Warner, he's in that scene as
- 17:35well. Nice.
- 17:36Cool, nice. Great.
- 17:37I love this scene because there's no element of assumption
- 17:40for the audience whatsoever. In the foreground.
- 17:43Poison. You've got black players on
- 17:45this. Tom and Jerry cartoon.
- 17:50Skull on him with crossbones. As good of an actor as HP Warner
- 17:53was, Bobby Anderson said that he was actually drunk in this
- 17:56scene. And it always kind of freaks me
- 17:58out because it is such a genuinely good drunk
- 18:01performance. He is gone.
- 18:04When he sits down and looks at the picture of his son, it's
- 18:07like, oh, there's nothing else on his mind.
- 18:09And the tears that are coming down his face, the confusion
- 18:11that's happening, and he was actually slapping Bobby Anderson
- 18:14for real. Wow, like he was there, all them
- 18:16tears were real and he just said as soon as HP want to finish the
- 18:20Capri L cut and he finished, you just want to hug them and he's
- 18:22just so apologetic. So that scene is actually how it
- 18:24played out in real life, which is amazing.
- 18:26Yeah, incredible. I mean, Christmas classic or
- 18:28not, there's no reason for slapping a 12 year old.
- 18:31Sure. No.
- 18:31Definitely not, no. Didn't go slapping Buster Keaton
- 18:34about I bet. I.
- 18:35Bet. Wouldn't it?
- 18:38But in an earlier draft of the script, the sequence played out
- 18:41quite a bit differently. In the film, when George finds
- 18:43out Mr. Gower has put poison in his prescriptions, he goes to
- 18:46see his father gets kicked out of the office when he shouts at
- 18:49Potter. He then goes back to the drug
- 18:51store. But the earlier draft, George
- 18:53turns to Uncle Billy next. Billy lights a cigar and throws
- 18:56it in the wastebasket, which catches fire.
- 18:58Billy starts yelling for help until George's cousin she puts
- 19:01the fire out with a pot of coffee, which means George has
- 19:03to deal with it all by himself. Piece a piece of work, Uncle
- 19:07Billy like. A liability got on Mike.
- 19:10Look at Norman Wisdom. But.
- 19:15You know what's a well written film when even the scene to
- 19:17leave out sound pretty good. Yeah.
- 19:19Yeah. We do get a similar scene in the
- 19:20building in law, and that's the first thing we see.
- 19:22Uncle Billy and Potter and Peter Bailey, George's dad.
- 19:25Potter's being really horrible to Peter.
- 19:27It's awful. Yeah, straight away, yeah.
- 19:30So no, Jimmy Stewart is George just yet, but still a pretty
- 19:34promising opening to It's a Wonderful Life.
- 19:36Definitely crying already tears. From there we flash forward nine
- 19:42years. George has turned into Jimmy
- 19:44Stewart, Mary has become done our read, and their paths cross
- 19:47once again. We attend a school, get
- 19:50together, the tunes into a pool party, then see George walk Mary
- 19:53home, giving us one of the most famous scenes and lines in the
- 19:56film. Have you offered to lastly with
- 19:59the Moon for a Woman before Luke?
- 20:01No, but I'd often like to. Put your back out.
- 20:08Yeah, I mean, it's all frivolity at the Bailey household before
- 20:11the party, isn't it? Yeah.
- 20:12Jolly James upstairs, everyone's having the best time.
- 20:15Harry's having some fun with Annie asking about those pies
- 20:18and chasing the kitchen like a Benny Hill sketch.
- 20:22That big wind up slap that he gives us?
- 20:24Absolutely outrageous. It's a full moon tonight.
- 20:29But this is where the seeds of the rest of the film are sawn.
- 20:31The way the family ties, the desire to break free.
- 20:34Pot is evil omnipresence as well, the business of nickels
- 20:37and Dimes. George doesn't want anything to
- 20:39do with it. That's this film in a nutshell.
- 20:42It also reinforces George's bad ear.
- 20:44How's that? Yeah, every time.
- 20:46I love that. Yeah.
- 20:47And it ends with his dad tongue to go and chase his dreams.
- 20:50But the writings on the wall for George and it signs off
- 20:53beautifully with him saying I think you're a great guy.
- 20:56It's about time one of them look head said it.
- 20:58Yeah, Yeah. There's some great jokes in
- 21:00this. It goes from humor just to do
- 21:02this absolute like, emotion. It's great.
- 21:05And say, yeah, you got a match when he's walking past.
- 21:07I love that every time. Just how every time.
- 21:09Brilliant. Oh, let him have the plates,
- 21:10mother. But yeah, Pop, you want a shock?
- 21:12I love that. Yeah, beautiful.
- 21:14It is great. It's not one of the most
- 21:16spectacular famous scenes, I don't think in the film, but
- 21:18really important. It is where we get the
- 21:20introduction of one of the biggest themes, the value of
- 21:22community, because Peter says normal people do most of the
- 21:25working and paying and living and dying in this community, and
- 21:28he wants to look after them. So it seems that this is where
- 21:30George gets that bully from, from his dad.
- 21:32Yeah. And it's great because it's the
- 21:34start of George's arc, too. We kind of mocks the building in
- 21:36loan here. He calls it a shabby little
- 21:37office. And obviously by the end he
- 21:40thought he loves the place a bit too much because he learns its
- 21:44value. It's about what it does for
- 21:45people, really. So I think it's really well
- 21:47written. And there is some humour in
- 21:49there as well with Annie the housemaid, snooping about
- 21:51clearing the plates. I mean, to call Annie a
- 21:54stereotype nowadays is a bit of an understatement.
- 21:57Yeah. A little bit.
- 21:58But Lillian Randolph, who plays her, she's great.
- 22:00Oh, she is. She's wonderful.
- 22:01And get this about Lillian, Randolph, Tom and Jerry.
- 22:05You know the housekeeper, Thomas Thomas, Thomas.
- 22:08You never see your legs. But it's Lillian Randolph's
- 22:10voice. Oh wow, no way.
- 22:12What a fact. How great that.
- 22:14I was going to say that like just in jest, but that's
- 22:17amazing. Brilliant.
- 22:19Yeah, on RE watches as well. It kind of hits home.
- 22:22That is possibly one of the last conversations he ever has with
- 22:24his dad. Probably is, isn't it?
- 22:26Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last time I seen him
- 22:28together for sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:30And talking about him, Paul Bailey.
- 22:32He's played by Samuel S Hines and he was also known to the
- 22:36audiences at the time because he'd been in over 100 films by
- 22:39this point. He'd been a regular and the
- 22:41Doctor killed their medical drama series and had been in
- 22:44Caprice, You Can't Take It With You in 1939, and that led him to
- 22:47get them cast as Peter Bailey. Great.
- 22:50I was hoping you wouldn't see was the voice of Yosemite Sam or
- 22:52something there, but no. Yeah, but.
- 22:55Yeah, he's on the film for long, but I think he's good.
- 22:57Samuel Hines. Yeah, he makes impression.
- 22:59Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, it happens off screen, but
- 23:01I do kind of feel his death when it comes a bit.
- 23:03Later. Oh, it hangs over.
- 23:04It doesn't hangs over. That's the film, definitely.
- 23:06It does, yeah. So after this, George gets an
- 23:09invite to go to Harry's party and he accepts.
- 23:11Obviously, of course he does. Fantastic.
- 23:13Loads of kids everywhere, no gym tonight, not one drop.
- 23:18And I absolutely love this scene.
- 23:19This scene is just such fun. It's just such a joy when he
- 23:23sees Mary, like that introduction to Donna Reed is
- 23:26just so incredible when she just turns and just, it's just
- 23:31incredible every single time. She's the real Angel.
- 23:33Yeah, I think of. Course she is.
- 23:35It's just like a dream, and it's just the light and he is so soft
- 23:39and just so welcoming and she just looks amazing.
- 23:42It's just so, so good. I love the fact that there's
- 23:45just all these little bits of this dialogue.
- 23:46The more you watch this film, the more you get from it.
- 23:48The fact that the pool underneath was his idea, the
- 23:51fact that he's actually still doing and all of this
- 23:53architecture and all of these designs and he still wants to do
- 23:56it. And I'm watching this again.
- 23:59Do you think this is like inspiration for the hand drive
- 24:02sequence in Greece? Possibly it's got similar vibes
- 24:06to it, yeah. Because they turn it into a
- 24:08competition and say tapping people on the shoulder and you
- 24:10have to leave. And it's like, that just reminds
- 24:13me of Greece all of a sudden. It's just fantastic.
- 24:14And so I love that. I think this has inspired scenes
- 24:17in Lords of Classic. Films it has, the more you watch
- 24:19it, you just think, Oh yeah, they've just taken that little
- 24:21idea and made a kind of film out of the whole thing and it's just
- 24:24great. I love the introduction of
- 24:25Wainwright turns up here yet again.
- 24:28You know, Harry's in the centre of the party.
- 24:29Marty comes over and sets him up with his sister.
- 24:31He's younger sister. Like I wouldn't set anybody up
- 24:34without a younger. Sister, any of you mates?
- 24:36I'm like, why don't you just stay away, right?
- 24:37I don't give a shit. Don't dance with her, don't get
- 24:39anywhere near her. In the story, the Charleston
- 24:42starts and they're not very good at it.
- 24:44And that pool starts open and it's just wonderful.
- 24:48It's not, it's not funny where you are.
- 24:49You don't roll your eyes at all. You just go, this is just
- 24:52amazing. And just the dialogue, we must
- 24:54be really good. Everybody just screaming is
- 24:57getting closer and closer. Yeah, absolutely crap.
- 25:03They're really not very good at what they're doing at all.
- 25:05But that one line, I mean does he deserve of just telling that
- 25:08kid just to stop annoying people?
- 25:10And I have the key so I'm going to ruin the whole party because
- 25:12it's George Baileys attitude. It's an over reaction like isn't
- 25:15it? It definitely is, but it works
- 25:17so well because it works in Georgio's favor because he gets
- 25:21married. He's going to get married
- 25:22anyway, but it's just such a joy to see and you just do not
- 25:25expect it. I still like every time it
- 25:27happens if I'm watching it. For someone who hasn't seen it,
- 25:29the joy on the face when that pool starts opening is just
- 25:31excellent. Great scene so early in the
- 25:33film. Yeah, it's great.
- 25:35It is. Yeah.
- 25:36I love the inroads that have done our read, obviously.
- 25:38Obviously. Neither George nor Mary are the
- 25:40greatest dancers in the world. George's Charleston Crazy Legs
- 25:43thing is outrageous. Spaghetti like.
- 25:46It's funny though, he does something early in the Bedford
- 25:48Falls streets as well where we waves at someone and does this
- 25:51weird bend thing with his legs like Basil.
- 25:53Fawlty. John Cleese and those two
- 25:58pranksters have opened the floor to reveal the pool.
- 26:00Really dangerous, that Surely? Yeah.
- 26:02Yeah, yeah. Could kill somebody.
- 26:03Yeah, but there's hundreds of people there.
- 26:05The floor starts to move. Everyone realizes and stops.
- 26:07Just except for George and Mary, who just think everyone stopped
- 26:11to watch them. Crazy legs.
- 26:12George. I don't think so.
- 26:16Oh yeah, it is obviously a key plot point in the relationship
- 26:18with George and Mary, and really memorable.
- 26:20Weird away as well. Definitely.
- 26:22I do find it, it's a little strange that Jimmy Stewart, a
- 26:26man, let's be honest, a few years off, 40, is it a high
- 26:30school party? Yeah.
- 26:34And he's greeted here as these fears in town as well.
- 26:36He's like Don Kane. Everybody wants a piece of him.
- 26:39But. Yeah, I'm like you fellas.
- 26:42That first shot of Mary, her reaction when she sees George.
- 26:46Stunning. Yeah.
- 26:48And that chump who's talking to her gets what's coming through.
- 26:50George is like, why don't you stop annoying people?
- 26:53Well, I'm sorry. Hey.
- 26:56It's a word. Outrageous.
- 27:00That dance. I'm not very good at this.
- 27:02And then he does some kind of like Michael, flatly light
- 27:05footedness, but he really lets himself down with that grandpa
- 27:08hand knee. The party scene that we've been
- 27:14taught about was filmed at the Beverly Hills High School.
- 27:17It had a real retractable floor, which was state-of-the-art at
- 27:20the time It was built in 1939, designed by an architect called
- 27:24George Bailey, sorry Styles Clement.
- 27:26It was a 25 yard swimming pool underneath a basketball court,
- 27:30which if you don't know, is where the term slam dunk comes
- 27:32from. Ah.
- 27:33Brilliant. But not really.
- 27:35I just made that up. But Capra had heard about it and
- 27:39specifically went after it for the scene, which is great.
- 27:42Great. The swim gym it was known as
- 27:45which is a good. Name Slam Dunton would better
- 27:46name. And it's still there.
- 27:49It's still used by students in this day.
- 27:51And the two guys who open the pool floor, one of them is
- 27:53played by Carl Switzer. He was known to audiences at the
- 27:56time. He'd been a child actor and he
- 27:58played Alfalfa in The Little Rascals.
- 28:00OK. Yes.
- 28:01He's a little Rascal, all right. Yeah, he looks like the cover of
- 28:04Mad Magazine. That guy with Mad Magazine?
- 28:06Yeah. Yeah.
- 28:08Alfred Newman. Which might have been based on
- 28:10him in the rascals to be honest. The extras who volunteered to
- 28:13jump in the pool were paid an extra 25 bucks as a bonus.
- 28:17Nice. And apparently when they filmed
- 28:18the moment that George and Mary fall in the pool was a bit of a
- 28:20problem because Jimmy Stewart was wearing a two pair.
- 28:23A rogue was he? Wow.
- 28:25And the first time they filmed it, it fell off like Maury.
- 28:30In the pool. Maury's wings don't come off.
- 28:35They had a bit in the pool as well where they're in the water
- 28:37and George Curry's on dancing with Mary and she's laughing her
- 28:39head off. Yeah, yeah.
- 28:41Surely not Live by Stuart that it looks like 1.
- 28:43Yeah, it must have been. Yeah, yeah, it looks it.
- 28:45And then after this, The Walking home and this film has got so
- 28:49many shifts and tones, and when it wants to be romantic, it's
- 28:51really, really romantic. Yeah.
- 28:53Like they're saying. I mean, I think the chemistry
- 28:55between these two, it's so convincing.
- 28:57They've barely been able to take their eyes off each other since
- 29:00the first met in the gym. They're not even thinking about
- 29:03the fact that they're walking home in sopping wet clothes.
- 29:05They're going to be freezing to death here.
- 29:07And Stuart and Reed are so good when that fella shouted them
- 29:10like, why don't you kiss him instead of talking to the death?
- 29:13It's a shock because you think, oh, hang on, there's other
- 29:15people around. It's just this feeling in the
- 29:17scene. There's no one else in the world
- 29:19apart from these two. They're just so caught up with
- 29:21each other in that amazing dialogue about fauna.
- 29:23Lasso around the moon and bring it down.
- 29:26But as I say, it's the tonal shift.
- 29:27It goes from romantic, it goes to playful when Mary loses A
- 29:31robe and has to hide in the bushes and George is just.
- 29:34This is a very interesting situation.
- 29:37Really funny when you saw engaged with a back and forth
- 29:40between the two of them. You'd be happy for this to be
- 29:43the rest of the film. But then it shifts again into
- 29:45tragedy when Uncle Billy and how we pull up in the car and tells
- 29:47when the father's had a stroke. So there's a lot of tones packed
- 29:50in this little saying, but it's all about the end of play for
- 29:53me. These two were great here.
- 29:55It is great. So the film spans 26 years, 1919
- 29:59and 1945. So over the course of it, Donna
- 30:01Reed plays Mary between 18 and 35, and Donna Reed herself was
- 30:0525 at the time, so that works pretty well.
- 30:08Should all as believable as Mary believable.
- 30:10No way though, can 37 year old Jimmy Stewart pull off playing
- 30:1321 year old George? Not at.
- 30:15All. In this scene he's wearing like
- 30:17a football strip when he walks Mary home like a bean.
- 30:20Poor you amaze me of goofy like lolloping.
- 30:22Down the street. My own shoes.
- 30:26It is great though, we get some of the most iconic moments from
- 30:29the film. The Sing Buffalo girls.
- 30:30George says he's going to Lassie over the moon for Mary.
- 30:32So massive stuff. And yeah, just some random
- 30:35pervert across the road. Why don't you kiss her already?
- 30:40You've done quite a few scenes adding characters like in the
- 30:42background just for humour, which always works really well.
- 30:44Yeah, very much. I think it's really important
- 30:47that we see the Granville house in this sequence.
- 30:49Yeah, that's just a a real kind of foreshadowing for what
- 30:52happens later on. Jimmy Stewart, straightaway, top
- 30:54window, boom. Absolutely amazing shot.
- 30:58Yeah, it gets me every single time.
- 31:00But the other thing that gets me here as well is the foreshadow.
- 31:03And it's very, very sort, but the more you see it, it's very,
- 31:06very, very good. Because her wish almost ruins
- 31:09his life because she wishes for him.
- 31:12She wants to live there with him as soon, no matter what he
- 31:14wishes for, it isn't going to come true.
- 31:16Because her wish seems to be stronger.
- 31:18And he doesn't expect that to break the glass.
- 31:20And I think it's her desire for this, to have this life and for
- 31:23this wish to come through that she actually does break the
- 31:25glass. And it's believable that she
- 31:26does it. I think it's just really, really
- 31:28good and really, really good foreshadowing that he doesn't
- 31:31really know what he's wishing for.
- 31:32He's just a whole bunch of things.
- 31:34I want to go here, I want to go there, I want to do this, I want
- 31:36to do that. She knows exactly what she
- 31:38wants. And I think if you know what you
- 31:39want in life, you've got a very good chance of that wish coming
- 31:41through. Yeah.
- 31:43Yeah, you mentioned Jimmy Stewart's shot.
- 31:45Yeah, in this scene, Mary throws a stone as well.
- 31:48Capra had actually hired an ace marksman to shoot out the window
- 31:52on queue. I love.
- 31:53That it's really 1946, that how else could you do it?
- 31:57Billy freaking to get a sniper in?
- 31:59Yeah, just have someone behind it with a hammer.
- 32:00Now I'm going to get a sniper, all right?
- 32:04I thought Donna Reed had played baseball in high school and she
- 32:07did it herself in one crack shot.
- 32:09Brilliant. Oh, amazing first take, wasn't
- 32:11it? First take Yeah, hell of a Donna
- 32:14Reed. Round of applause from the crew
- 32:15as well of her Yeah, really, really good.
- 32:18And we see adult Violet Vicky for the first time as well, and
- 32:21she's played by Gloria Graham. And at the time she was under
- 32:24contract at MGM and was loaded out to Orky or to play a Violet.
- 32:28She had small roles in a couple of films before this, but this
- 32:30was her biggest role at the time and she went on to become a big
- 32:33star. She was in The Greatest Show on
- 32:35Earth, which also saw Jimmy Stewart I think and Oklahoma,
- 32:39and also won an Oscar in 1952 for The Bad and the Beautiful.
- 32:42Brilliant. All right.
- 32:44Yeah, melodrama by Vincent Minnelli that.
- 32:46Yeah, it's a good film. Yeah, she really in a few
- 32:48scenes, yeah. But I think Violet's really
- 32:50good. She's great.
- 32:51She's great. Turning everyone's heads when
- 32:53she's walking down the street. Yeah.
- 32:55Bert and Ernie the Common, the taxi driver.
- 32:57That's great. It's that horn sound as well.
- 33:01Cartoon, Yeah. It's really you frame Roger
- 33:04Rabbit at that point, yeah. It is.
- 33:06It really is. It's pretty big at the end in
- 33:07Pottersville as well. When we see Violet getting
- 33:09kicked out of a club and she's like out of control.
- 33:11I find that quite sad, yeah. I know Potter.
- 33:14It's amazing. But yeah, I do like Gloria
- 33:15Graham. She's not in it much, but even
- 33:17here I think, and you can see she has star quality.
- 33:19Yeah. Oh, definitely.
- 33:20Yeah. She's really, really good.
- 33:22So that's our opening. It's a Wonderful Life has a huge
- 33:25reputation and with sequences like George saving Harry, Mr.
- 33:28Gower beating George and then George and Mary swim dancing all
- 33:31in the first half hour or so, it's easy to see why.
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- 35:21well. Have we missed anything out?
- 35:23I don't think so. Great, we've got a better memory
- 35:25than Uncle Billy then, at least. Who hasn't?
- 35:28String around our fingers. Well, that's not for now.
- 35:32Let's get back to Bedford Falls, Should we?
- 35:34Let's do it. Let's go.
- 35:38The director. We've mentioned him already and
- 35:43the director of It's a Wonderful Life was Francesco Rosario
- 35:47Capra. Frank Capra for short.
- 35:49To his friends. Born in Italy and raised in LA,
- 35:52his career as a director started back in the 1920s silent era and
- 35:56before It's a Wonderful Life, he was already a winner of three
- 35:59Best Director Oscars. Wow.
- 36:01Which were four It happened one night.
- 36:02One of only three movies ever to win the Big 5 of the Oscars in
- 36:051935. The big one, yeah.
- 36:07Mr. Deeds goes to town from 1936, and you can't take it with
- 36:10you from 1938. So a Hollywood directing legend,
- 36:14Westie. Yeah, Capra.
- 36:16I mean, you're not there just yet.
- 36:18Give it time. Yeah, we'll see.
- 36:20But how is Francesco? Here is director of It's a
- 36:22Wonderful Life. I think he's absolutely
- 36:24fantastic. He's at that point in a career
- 36:26where he's got such a command over the the medium.
- 36:28He's got such a command over the technical, and he knows the
- 36:31rules and he knows how to break the rules.
- 36:33And he's one of the very first directors, if not the first
- 36:36director to have his name above the title of the film.
- 36:38Great. So be like Frank Capra.
- 36:39It's a Wonderful Life, because that's where that was the
- 36:41important thing. That was the draw.
- 36:43But it's his like I've said, he's technical flailing for him
- 36:46at the very start from Luke's amazing quote.
- 36:48I want a big one. And it stops there.
- 36:50And audiences must have just been thinking, well, this is
- 36:52broken. Yeah, if clans didn't have that
- 36:54voice over straight away they think about the reels.
- 36:56Yeah, sack the projectedness would.
- 36:58Get more money back. Yeah, easily.
- 37:00Now, this is 13 years before 400 blows, 23 years before Butch
- 37:03Cassidy and the Sundance Kid did it at the end, and 44 years
- 37:07before Scorsese utilize it so well.
- 37:09And Goodfellas, he's really, really pioneering just the
- 37:11freeze frame from the start. Then he breaks the 4th wall.
- 37:15Yeah, exactly when he needs to. It's not just breaking the 4th
- 37:18wall for for a laugh. He does it twice in the film.
- 37:21One is the announcement of them coming in from the wedding where
- 37:25the woman screams straight down the lens.
- 37:27Oh, yeah, that's fantastic. Because you just.
- 37:28Oh, that's if we're there and you're just witnessing it.
- 37:30And then the second one is that breakdown from George where you
- 37:32realize it's all gone wrong. It's almost the vertical shot,
- 37:35but he uses the depth in that frame and he fills that frame.
- 37:39And this is shot for cinema. You're going to cinema watch
- 37:41this. That's going to fill the screen
- 37:43and you're going to be terrified.
- 37:44He is straight down the lens and he knows it.
- 37:46And then the humor that he brings to it, he has this real
- 37:50light death touch. Like you said at the top, John,
- 37:52this gets really, really dark really quickly.
- 37:55Just really, really technically proficient, but again,
- 37:57emotionally attached to the material, which really works for
- 38:00me. Absolutely what strikes me.
- 38:03About Capra's direction. Is is how he builds.
- 38:05Bedford Falls is like a living, thriving place to live, a
- 38:09community. This town's packed with
- 38:12characters. Mr. Gower, Martini, Violet,
- 38:14Uncle Billy, only the cab driver, but the cop.
- 38:18And somehow each of them feel fully realized, like they've got
- 38:21lives happening beyond the edges of the frame.
- 38:23Yeah, yeah, definitely. And.
- 38:25That's obviously that's not accidental.
- 38:27Katherine knows what he's doing, because the whole emotional
- 38:29engine of this film depends on us believing that this community
- 38:32is worth saving. If Bedford Falls feels thin or
- 38:35generic or you don't care about the characters, then that ending
- 38:38just falls flat. Oh, absolutely.
- 38:40Yeah, But because. We've spent two hours getting
- 38:43to. Know these people, seeing
- 38:44George's small kindedness ripple through their lives when they
- 38:48all pal into his living room at the end?
- 38:51Niagara Falls? Forget about it.
- 38:53Yeah, the term itself becomes a character.
- 38:56And I think that's Capra's greatest trick here.
- 38:58He's not just directing a film about one man.
- 39:00He's directing a film about a whole community and how they
- 39:03thrive off each other. Every person matters, Every
- 39:06small act has consequences. And it's essentially A tapestry.
- 39:10And Capra's weaving all these threads together so that
- 39:12patiently, you don't even notice it until he pulls it tight at
- 39:16the end that it all comes together.
- 39:18Yeah, it's incredible. It is.
- 39:20I mean when you look at. His career and his filmography,
- 39:22it's just sensational at standard three time Oscar.
- 39:25Winner second only. John Ford, who won four Capro
- 39:28was nominated another three times as well.
- 39:31And what's strange is that it seems he was a bit
- 39:33underappreciated at the time. You mentioned it, Westie, but
- 39:35critics used to call his films Capricorn, like criticizing the
- 39:39sentimental style. I think that kind of lack of
- 39:41respects gone now, though. Clearly a talented film maker
- 39:44and we'll see that in It's a Wonderful Life.
- 39:46I think it's masterfully directed.
- 39:48You get career defining performances from every main
- 39:51cast member, even from another Hollywood legend in Jimmy
- 39:53Stewart. And one of the most impressive
- 39:55things, I think, is Capra's control of the tone.
- 39:59I think in lesser hands, the tone of this film could have
- 40:01been all over the place. At times, it's playing as a
- 40:04comedy, and at that time, it's playing as a really dark drama.
- 40:07And then at the end, it suddenly flips to be like a Christmas
- 40:10fantasy. Yeah.
- 40:11But at no point is it ever jarring or does anything feel
- 40:13our place. There's loads of examples, but I
- 40:15think a good one is the final act.
- 40:17We'll talk about it indeed later, obviously.
- 40:19But it starts Christmas Eve when Uncle Billy comes across Potter
- 40:22in the bank. Billy's all full of himself
- 40:24taking the piss out of the Potter.
- 40:25It's almost like a comedy skit. And then we realized he'd lost
- 40:28the money and we started. Think oh shit, and the anxiety
- 40:31kind of grows because he can't find it.
- 40:33It's gradual but gets worse and worse until it's really dark.
- 40:37I mean, we'll talk the details later, but Capright guide us
- 40:39through that superbly. One of the best controls of tone
- 40:42that we've seen, I think. And in terms of objective film
- 40:45making quality, I think this stands head and shoulders above
- 40:48all of its peers. The Citizen Kane of Christmas
- 40:51movies, Yeah, without it's like fairy tale in New York
- 40:54transcends the genre. It's not just a great Christmas
- 40:57film, it's a great film, full stop.
- 40:59And for me, it's still the benchmark that every other
- 41:01Christmas film aspires to. We're still watching it not too
- 41:04far off 100 years later. Wow.
- 41:07And I think they'll still be watching it 100 years from now.
- 41:10And it's Capra's film, top to bottom is all over it.
- 41:13I think it's with what it became.
- 41:14It's one of the all time great pieces of directing work from
- 41:18Frank Capra. Yeah, I agree.
- 41:20And The thing is. You don't even need Christmas.
- 41:21For this to work, it's just a bonus that it's Christmas.
- 41:24Yeah, you don't like Die Hard. Be the.
- 41:27Weapon. You can name them all brings his
- 41:32real conviction. To the material and a real
- 41:34understanding that this needs contrast and balance.
- 41:37The emotional highs you get at the end, they only hit because
- 41:40he doesn't flinch from the darkness.
- 41:42The violence of Mystic Hour, Josh's meltdown in front of his
- 41:45family, and he has the conviction to make a film that
- 41:48fully embraces the presence of God and angels throughout the
- 41:51film. But at the same time, it's all
- 41:53this humdrum minutiae of small town life, and the two fit
- 41:56together seamlessly. You know, having the conviction
- 41:59to have a scene where George literally prays to God at the
- 42:01bar and you don't roll your eyes at it.
- 42:04But again, it's about the balance.
- 42:05Because right after that, George gets a smack in the drawer from
- 42:08the teacher's husband and sends him on his way right in the.
- 42:12Chops. Right in the chops.
- 42:14And some of the. Visual storytelling still holds
- 42:16up to Damian. The freeze frame that Wesley
- 42:18mentioned. But that scene when George
- 42:20returns home after Billy's lost the money, that's framed like a
- 42:23Christmas card because he got the happy wife and kid put in
- 42:25the decorations up in the background.
- 42:27Father's just coming home from work.
- 42:28Yeah. Except the contrast is George
- 42:30isn't happy whatsoever to be wrong.
- 42:32He's utterly defeated at that point.
- 42:34And that contrast is so emotionally rich.
- 42:36So visual storytelling, tonal control, narrative control.
- 42:40He's just got it all here. The full package.
- 42:42Yeah. And he?
- 42:43Doesn't make it overly religious.
- 42:44I don't think of this film as a religious film at all.
- 42:46No, no, although it's in there isn't.
- 42:48It it's definitely in there, but I mean it's it's.
- 42:50The whole reason it works, if you look at it from that point
- 42:53of view, you use that as the catalyst, but to me it doesn't
- 42:55beat you over the head with it. So I believe it if you want to.
- 42:57Yeah, it just works for George Bailey.
- 42:59So right at the peak of Capra's. Career In 1930s forties we had
- 43:03World War 2, of course. After the attack on Pearl Harbor
- 43:061941, Capra quit Hollywood, and he enlisted in the US Army.
- 43:10He was 44 at the time, so he didn't need to.
- 43:12But he said that in his films, he'd always championed the poor
- 43:15and the downtrodden. So he felt that he had to
- 43:17practice what he preached on a guy.
- 43:18So amount of substance, it seems like.
- 43:21Yeah, Yeah. And.
- 43:22And Capra was commissioned. As a major in the US Army he was
- 43:24there for four years until the end of the war and his job in
- 43:27that time was to direct a series of documentary films explaining
- 43:30to soldiers why they were in uniform.
- 43:32He directed or Co directed 7 documentaries called the Why We
- 43:37Fight series. Yeah, nice.
- 43:39Yeah. So we left.
- 43:40The army when the war ended. 1945 And he said there's time in
- 43:43the Army. Turned him into a perfect
- 43:45pacifist, as he called it, Right.
- 43:47And he said that mindset fed directly into It's a Wonderful
- 43:50Life. Yeah, you can see that.
- 43:51Yeah. Just a bit.
- 43:52Yeah, yeah, the. Themes of community doing the
- 43:55right thing. But what's weird is a capital
- 43:57later called the making of the film.
- 43:59A four month non-stop orgasm. Really.
- 44:04Not a part of that. Description at all?
- 44:05No. I wish you hadn't told us that,
- 44:07John. I mean it sounds good though.
- 44:10Maybe a month? So after the war ended, Capra
- 44:15got. Together with two other Oscar
- 44:17winning film makers, William Wyler and George Stevens and
- 44:19they set up Liberty Films and the goal was to make movies
- 44:23without interference by studio bosses.
- 44:25Liberty had nine film distribution deal with RKO
- 44:28Pictures, 3 from each director and the head of RKO, Charles
- 44:32Koerner told Capra to read a shelf screenplay, the hat called
- 44:35The Greatest Gift. Capra loved it.
- 44:37Borrowed from RKO for $10,000. The name eventually changed to
- 44:41Its Wonderful Life and the rest is Christmas movie history.
- 44:44It certainly is. It is.
- 44:46Indeed, Yeah, Caprolie I. Said the script was the story
- 44:48I've been looking for all my life, so it was the greatest
- 44:52gift. And in November 1945, Liberty
- 44:55filmed announced It's a Wonderful Life as being their
- 44:56first production. Right.
- 44:58Which turned out all right, didn't it?
- 44:59Good start. In the long run, yeah.
- 45:01Eventually anyway. Eventually, yeah.
- 45:03It didn't really work as the planet do.
- 45:05I think there's only United Artists that was massively
- 45:07successful from that kind of coming together of mind.
- 45:10Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a.
- 45:12Problem that Capra had to deal. With during production, the film
- 45:15was shot in the summer months and California was going through
- 45:17a heat wave at the time. It got so hot that at one point
- 45:20Capra had to give the cast and crew a day off to recover.
- 45:24Yeah, so the. Famous scene at the end where
- 45:26George. Is running around Bedford Falls
- 45:27shouting Merry Christmas to everybody.
- 45:29It's snowing in the film, but there's certain shots where you
- 45:31can see sweat glistening on Jimmy Stewart's face because it
- 45:34was actually boiling hot when they filmed it.
- 45:36Yeah, yeah, yeah. And production.
- 45:38Began on April. 15th, 1946 and wrapped on July 27th, 1946.
- 45:43It was scheduled for 90 days and Capra brought it in exactly on
- 45:4790 days. Exacting nice, very good.
- 45:50Some scenes were shot on. Location the.
- 45:52Swim, gym, party that we talked about, the scene where George
- 45:54meets Harry and his wife at the train station and the scene
- 45:57outside the Martinis house in Bailey's Park were all filmed in
- 46:00relocations. Yeah, that train station scenes.
- 46:02When George meets Harry's wife for the first time and finds out
- 46:05Harry's got a job so won't be taking over the building in loan
- 46:08bad form from Harry, that isn't it.
- 46:10It's a bombshell drops. George right in it.
- 46:13Yeah, he apologises, but. He's still taking the job.
- 46:16Of course he is. Yeah, yeah.
- 46:19I know that. I'm sorry.
- 46:20Yeah. So Liberty Films were a new.
- 46:23Company and the budget was only $3,000,000.
- 46:26So Capra hired Archaeos head of costumes Edward Stevenson as his
- 46:29costume designer, and they'd also worked together in 1931
- 46:33when Capra made a film called Platinum Blonde.
- 46:36Yeah, comedy, romance with. Gene Harlow in it that but a
- 46:39pretty natural fit. Then Stevenson knew Capra, Andy
- 46:42knew the studio. So a shoe in I guess.
- 46:45And because that money limitations.
- 46:46Stevenson cut some corners. James Stewart was on clothing
- 46:50for most of the film. Actually in Stevenson dressed
- 46:52the rest of the cast, mostly by Raiden or key or stock wardrobe.
- 46:56Surely that goofy football stripped.
- 46:57Didn't belong to Stewart. Yeah, I was going to say they
- 47:00weren't his shoes in that. Football.
- 47:03Barry turned up with the car. Imagine I'm having.
- 47:05To run home. With them shoes on.
- 47:09The other costumes all work though, I think.
- 47:10I mean. As soon as you say partner, it's
- 47:12pretty obvious he's the bad guy. Oh yeah?
- 47:14Black suit, starched collar shirts.
- 47:16It's not exactly subtle. Yeah, yeah.
- 47:19Well, before we signed. Off on Frank Capra.
- 47:20It's time to hear from our patrons.
- 47:22So like we said earlier, if you sign up as an ATRM patron,
- 47:26you'll be able to pause questions that we answer on our
- 47:27shows. The first coming now it's on
- 47:30something Frank Capra has now associated with the festive
- 47:33film, and it comes from Lou Pellegrino.
- 47:36Hello, Lou. Hello.
- 47:38Lou. Hello, Lou.
- 47:39So. Lou asks.
- 47:40A lot of Christmas. Movies come and go, but few have
- 47:42the well deserved thing. Power of It's a Wonderful Life.
- 47:45What are the elements of an enduring Christmas movie?
- 47:48Good question from Lou there. Yeah, great one.
- 47:51What do we think? What?
- 47:51Makes a great festive. Flick, Luke.
- 47:54Yeah, agreed. Well, obviously nostalgia.
- 47:56Plays such a a huge part there aren't many.
- 47:59Christmas films for me that I've.
- 48:01Taken to My Heart that were released when I was an adult.
- 48:04They're all pretty much. I was watching them when I was a
- 48:06kid, probably apart from Elf and Bad Santa, mainly the only ones
- 48:09that watch every year without fail.
- 48:11Yeah. But I also think that nostalgia
- 48:14combined with that big dollop of sentimentality and humour and
- 48:17relatability, because if you can see your family traditions and
- 48:20traits, you know, a good or bad play out on the big screen,
- 48:23there's something incredibly confident about that.
- 48:27But finally. You know, abandoned all of.
- 48:28That put me in front of a Christmas horror film, and I'm
- 48:31as happy as Larry Black. Christmas, Christmas Evil,
- 48:34Silent Night, Deadly Night. All winners for me.
- 48:37Yeah, I mean. This There's a tone that goes.
- 48:39Through all of the classic Christmas films, all of the best
- 48:42Christmas films, I mean, Wonderful Life's up there,
- 48:44obviously Home Alone is definitely in there.
- 48:46Die Hards obviously talked about every year and there's older
- 48:49ones kind of predating this that have a similar kind of theme.
- 48:53If you haven't seen The Shop Around the Corner, check that
- 48:56out, which came out 1940, which is an incredible Christmas film,
- 48:59and Meet Me in Saint Louis as well as it was really, really
- 49:01good. Love that one, but all of them
- 49:03have something. In common and.
- 49:05To me it's heart and reconciliation and forgiveness
- 49:09and love and second chances. A great quote that if it weren't
- 49:13for second chances, we'd all be alone.
- 49:15And I think that's what a Christmas film is.
- 49:17It's about forgiveness. And I think all of the greats
- 49:20have got that. And if you don't have that
- 49:22element, it doesn't really work. Beautiful.
- 49:24Lovely sentiment I think for me. Don't make the Christmas
- 49:28elements the only reason for making the film.
- 49:30It's a Wonderful Life doesn't have to happen on Christmas Eve.
- 49:32Die Hard doesn't have to happen on Christmas Eve.
- 49:35The Apartment doesn't have to happen over Christmas.
- 49:38Now obviously some do any adaptation of A Christmas Carol,
- 49:41the whole of this very recent one Christmas vacation, but they
- 49:45don't just put up Christmas elements on screen thing.
- 49:47Oh, well, I'll do. That's there for Christmas Eve.
- 49:49The ones that do that, all those just predictable, like Hallmark
- 49:52Christmas movies. And that's the reason they don't
- 49:55last in the memory. I think get the story right.
- 49:57And the Christmas elements can really add to it in an emotional
- 50:00way or a funny way or a horrific way if you look.
- 50:03But if the story's not there, the Christmas elements.
- 50:07Won't mean the thing. Well, there you go.
- 50:10I think we've given Lou what he needs to go and write the next
- 50:12Christmas classic there. Yeah.
- 50:13Look forward to seeing where you come out with us all your.
- 50:15Ingredients give us a story. By credit.
- 50:17That's all we have. Thanks please so.
- 50:20About to It's a wonderful life that was.
- 50:21Nominated for best pitcher at the Oscars and Capra was
- 50:24nominated for Best director. They didn't win though.
- 50:27The winners that year. Do we know what?
- 50:29Same film for both. Matt.
- 50:30Matt. The best years of our lives.
- 50:34It was indeed, yes, every time. Love that.
- 50:38And the. Director was William Wyler.
- 50:39One of Capra's Liberty Films Co founders.
- 50:42That's right, Dead End. William Wyler.
- 50:44Yes, the very same. To end on Frank Capra I.
- 50:47Have a quote? From the man himself about the
- 50:48film. So he later said.
- 50:51I didn't even think of It's a Wonderful Life as a Christmas
- 50:53Story when I first ran across it.
- 50:55I just liked the idea. But I thought it was the
- 50:57greatest film I ever made. Better yet, I thought it was the
- 51:01greatest film anybody ever made. Self phrase No phrase.
- 51:07Brilliant. A man of substance, but not
- 51:08modesty. No, Yeah, exactly.
- 51:10I wonder what? Yeah, I wonder what?
- 51:12Year he said that. But for us, as one of the.
- 51:17Christmas classics still holding up decades later.
- 51:19It's a Wonderful Life. Exceptional stuff from Frank
- 51:22Capra. One of the greatest.
- 51:23Yeah, unbelievable. Nearly a century.
- 51:25Old one. The cast, a Hollywood legend
- 51:33directing things and. It's a wonderful life and the
- 51:36same can be said for the cast. 5 Oscar winning actors no less in
- 51:40the film. Wow.
- 51:41And we're going all in on three of the cast now.
- 51:44Don't I read is Mary Hatch turned Bailey's on our agenda,
- 51:47as is Lionel, Barry, Moores, Henry Potter.
- 51:49But obviously we're starting with the big man.
- 51:52Oh, yeah, of course we are. So, James.
- 51:54Jimmy Stewart is. George Bailey, a building a loan
- 51:57banker who sacrifices his dreams to help his family and
- 52:00community. George falls into a depression
- 52:02and contemplates suicide before his guardian Angel shows him his
- 52:05own value and his family and friends show him the true
- 52:08meaning of Christmas. I mean, just saying that I'm
- 52:11ready for a mince. Oh yeah, wonderful stuff.
- 52:13You're always ready for a mints but.
- 52:18How do I Jimmy Stewart as George?
- 52:20Bailey I can't think of another performance.
- 52:22Where an actor can so clearly feel everything his character
- 52:25was going through because Stewart was going through a lot
- 52:27himself after the war. And he pours all of that into
- 52:31George Bailey. And you can see he's planned out
- 52:33George's journey from beginning to end in his head completely.
- 52:37Because the amount of time something bad or frustrating
- 52:39happens to him and he doesn't quite blow a stack.
- 52:41He bites his tongue, swallows the anger down.
- 52:45You know, a little moment, side kick in the car door shut when
- 52:47he realizes how much money he could have made if he'd got on
- 52:49with Sam Wainwright. And I think one of the best bits
- 52:52of acting you'll ever see in your life is when Harry returns
- 52:55home from college. Which George thinks, right, this
- 52:57is my opportunity I'm going to get a leave Bedford for, so he's
- 53:00going to take over. But he doesn't count on Harry
- 53:02coming back with a wife and an amazing job opportunity.
- 53:06In that moment. No dialogue, maybe 10 seconds
- 53:09long at most. The camera just holds on
- 53:10Stewart's face. He takes and what this means for
- 53:13him in his eyes, the shifting as he's just thinking, I can't take
- 53:17this away from Harry, but if I don't, I'm so clear for good.
- 53:20I'm never going to leave Bedford Falls.
- 53:22It's an incredible moment and he has to be funny.
- 53:26He has to be lovable, he has to be tragic.
- 53:28He has to be scary at point. That's what I said.
- 53:30He has to dance at the beginning.
- 53:32And the fact that he can combine all these elements into one
- 53:35performance in this journey from youth to middle age in one of
- 53:38the most compelling journeys he'll ever see.
- 53:40I mean, is it the best performance in cinema history?
- 53:43I mean, that's a very different argument, but it's certainly my
- 53:45favorite performance of all time.
- 53:47Wow. Wonderful.
- 53:48Huge prayers. Yes, yes, George.
- 53:51Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. The man with a good face.
- 53:54I mean, it's Jimmy. Stewart.
- 53:56Isn't it? Yeah, one of the most beloved
- 53:58actors ever in his signature role.
- 54:00And it's signature for a reason. When we first introduced an
- 54:03adult George, he is a friend to everyone in Bedford Falls.
- 54:08He's been a good kid and there's such a warm feeling with the
- 54:10talk of him traveling. His physical performance is
- 54:13wonderful. He's walking through this town
- 54:15with that enormous suitcase. We haven't the people in the
- 54:17street like JFK or something, greeting.
- 54:21Everybody with a beaming smile that.
- 54:22Leg thing that he does when he wears at the people in the
- 54:24window. Wow, that's incredible.
- 54:28But this ain't no one no performance either.
- 54:30Capra doesn't shy away from the darkness inhumanity and neither
- 54:33does Stuart. He head he head on with it.
- 54:35He goes through this true emotional roller coaster and he
- 54:39drags you through this film giving a relatable performance.
- 54:42I think anyone can see themselves in elements of
- 54:45George's frustration, of family ties, of small town commitments,
- 54:49trying to break free and being pulled back.
- 54:52I think Stuart is this film. There are many other elements
- 54:54that home here, of course, but Stuart is on fire.
- 54:58If he doesn't work, the film doesn't.
- 55:00And the reason that the end it hits so hard is because of his
- 55:02performance. He really, really earns it.
- 55:05He's outstanding here, Yeah. I mean like.
- 55:08Capra, Jimmy. Stewart was already a huge
- 55:10Hollywood name by this point, he'd already won an Oscar for
- 55:13The Philadelphia Story and already had that classics under
- 55:16his belt. But even with a filmography like
- 55:18his, I think George Bailey possibly still Stewarts
- 55:21definitive role. The one he's most known for
- 55:24today I think anyway. Sure, and for good reason.
- 55:27He looks every inch the Hollywood powerhouse that he was
- 55:30at this point. Oh yeah.
- 55:31I mean, as George Stewart's what we've come to expect from him,
- 55:34he's likable, he's charming, he's charismatic.
- 55:37He leaves the whole thing as well as anyone's ever LED a
- 55:40film. I would say he's funny when he
- 55:42needs to be funny. All that Minsky of silly walk
- 55:45stuff he does cracks me up. And when the dramatic moments
- 55:49come, he's. Brilliant there as well.
- 55:52I mentioned earlier that the tone shifts quite wildly
- 55:54throughout the film. I think it would have been a
- 55:55really big challenge for anyone playing George, but Stewart just
- 55:59sails through it. When the dramatic moments come,
- 56:01and when they come, they come big.
- 56:03Stewart's more than up to the challenge.
- 56:05We'll talk about it in more detail, but the final act in
- 56:08Martino's bar on the bridge in the cemetery, he's magnificent.
- 56:13I said that I think couple controls are torn in the form
- 56:15brilliantly well. And part of that is because he's
- 56:17got an actor in the lead in Stuart who can effortlessly
- 56:20shift from comedy to drama to tragedy to fantasy and take us
- 56:24with him as well. Yeah, I love him in The
- 56:26Philadelphia Story, but with the range he has to cover here, I
- 56:29think George Bailey isn't just his most iconic role.
- 56:31I think it possibly is best performance as well.
- 56:34In fact, I think it's underrated.
- 56:36I think because of the statue of the film would take for granted
- 56:39just how good he is. I agree.
- 56:41Yeah, I think it's among the. Greatest lead performances.
- 56:43I've ever seen incredible. He's incredible.
- 56:46I. Love him almost as much as I
- 56:47love Aragon. And Lord of the Rings, surely.
- 56:49Almost, almost he is. He's.
- 56:53Just absolutely. Electric fantastic, like you
- 56:55said, the arcs that he has to go through and he's totally
- 56:57believable in all of it and he doesn't actually carry the film.
- 57:00I think it's just the way that Capra has directed it as a
- 57:02community. You think it's like an ensemble
- 57:04piece with everybody having that space.
- 57:06He doesn't need to carry it, but he just, he just leads it so
- 57:10well that he's fantastic. Another character that I love
- 57:13James Stewart playing is Elwood P Dowd from Harvey, which came
- 57:16out in 1950. Nice.
- 57:17Yeah. And it's very, very similar.
- 57:19To George Bailey. Now, if you haven't seen Harvey
- 57:21and you love George Bailey, that's a really good kind of
- 57:23sequel to go to. It's very, very similar.
- 57:26And I I just love Jimmy Stewart. Just an incredible human being.
- 57:29Lovely. So like.
- 57:31Capra as the. US became involved in the Second
- 57:33World War. Jimmy Stewart decided he wanted
- 57:35to enlist and as an amateur pilot he was commissioned into
- 57:38the Air Corps, served in World War 2 and Ross to the rank of
- 57:41Colonel yes so when he returned from the.
- 57:43War. He was seriously considering
- 57:45quitting Hollywood entirely, apparently, and he spent a few
- 57:48months at home in Pennsylvania, working in his family's hardware
- 57:51store. Yeah, right.
- 57:52Amazing. Amazing.
- 57:53Like Jay Fox and. Teen Wolf, Howard Hardware, The
- 57:59King of the Nuts, and. Bolts.
- 58:01Going to buy a hammer and Jimmy Stewart.
- 58:03Serving you. Oh no, no, no, I want a big one.
- 58:09Sled Jabber. So while the war was taking
- 58:11place. Archaeo were writing The
- 58:13Greatest Gift, which as we said, that's the original title if
- 58:16It's a Wonderful Life and the first person that wanted to play
- 58:18George was Cary Grant. Archaeo ended up selling the
- 58:21script before Deal was struck, though.
- 58:23Well, I mean, I love. Cary Grant, obviously, Oh, yeah,
- 58:26I'm not being harsh saying I'm not sure he's got the dramatic
- 58:29chops that Stuart brings to this.
- 58:31We never saw that, did we? From Cary.
- 58:33Grant Yeah, he is in the Bishop's wife.
- 58:34He's very good in that. Yeah, he is North by Northwest
- 58:37as. Well, but I just.
- 58:38Don't think he's got that depth. No, you know, he's like a James
- 58:41Bond kind of thing. And he, well, yeah, that's what
- 58:43they wanted, James Bond. Wasn't it Exactly?
- 58:44Yeah. And then after.
- 58:46Capra bought the. Rights to the film with Liberty.
- 58:47He briefly considered Henry Fonda as George Right, but he
- 58:50did only ever really want one man James Stewart and Capra said
- 58:54he spoke to Lou Wasserman, Stewart's agent, and Wasserman
- 58:57said Stewart would gladly play the part without even hearing
- 58:59the story. Nice.
- 59:01Sounds like Ricky Gervais. Says you're an.
- 59:03Extras. He will work with anyone.
- 59:10But apparently Steel was planning to turn the part.
- 59:12Down loving that hardware store. And according to reports, it was
- 59:15Lionel Barrymore who convinced in the movies still matter to
- 59:18people and that you should at least meet with Capra.
- 59:20Yeah. So well done, Lionel.
- 59:22If true. Wow, so.
- 59:24Stuart did meet Capra. In an LA restaurant and Capra
- 59:27told him the whole story of the film, but at the end Capra
- 59:30himself said, actually this doesn't sound too good, does it?
- 59:33And Stuart said in reply, Frank, if you want me to be in the
- 59:36picture about a guy that wants to kill himself and an Angel
- 59:39comes out who can't swim and I save him, when do we start?
- 59:43Great, nice Lou Bottom. Was right you will.
- 59:46Work with anyone? Georgio's daughter Zuzu was.
- 59:52Played by Carolyn Grimes, who was six years old at the time,
- 59:54years later she said Stuart was a joy on the set.
- 59:57She said he'd always take her for walks and talk to her about
- 1:00:00Christmas and angels. And she said it really helped
- 1:00:02her in the scene when Zuzu was ill and gives George the petals
- 1:00:05at the end, she felt a bond with Stuart.
- 1:00:07She didn't have to act much. Amazing.
- 1:00:10It's a lovely moment. Beautiful, yeah.
- 1:00:12His little ginger. Snap.
- 1:00:13He calls. That.
- 1:00:14Yeah, great. It's probably lost now, but the
- 1:00:16reason George calls you with that is that in the US in the
- 1:00:181940s, Zuzu was a famous brand of ginger snap biscuits.
- 1:00:22All right, great. OK, nice.
- 1:00:24My kids bourbon and. Custard cream Jamie Dodgers
- 1:00:30Messy Dodger George's mother, Mar Bailey is.
- 1:00:36Played by Beulah Bondi, she had a unique acting relationship
- 1:00:39with Stuart. She played his mother on screen
- 1:00:41five times. Unbelievably.
- 1:00:43Wow. Before this, they'd worked
- 1:00:45together on The Vicious Lady of Human Hearts and Mr. Smith Goes
- 1:00:48to Washington. She played his mother in
- 1:00:50Stuart's 1976 on The Jimmy Stewart Show.
- 1:00:53One of the great screen double act.
- 1:00:55Yeah, definitely. So are the neck on.
- 1:00:57So much then. I know on the lips.
- 1:00:59Outrageous. Yeah, that is weird.
- 1:01:01Not sure if. That was Norman in 1946.
- 1:01:03Surely I wasn't. But you already used to call her
- 1:01:07mom. Right up until her death in
- 1:01:091981, which is nice. Oh, lovely, lovely.
- 1:01:12And she doesn't get loads to. Do in the film either.
- 1:01:14But you love Bondy. But I think she's good.
- 1:01:16Oh yeah, That's seen after Harry's engagement party when
- 1:01:18she's convincing George to go and see Mary.
- 1:01:19She's great. Cheers.
- 1:01:21Bunny calls back and. She's.
- 1:01:22At the guest house, it just comes to the door.
- 1:01:24It's a lie. Yeah, it's.
- 1:01:27Horrible. Yeah.
- 1:01:29Another member of the Bailey family Worth.
- 1:01:30Mentioning is Uncle Billy, of course.
- 1:01:33Right? Yeah.
- 1:01:33Lovable klutz. Yeah.
- 1:01:35Obviously part of a major plot point leader.
- 1:01:37He's played by Thomas Mitchell. Yeah.
- 1:01:39How's he in the film, do we think?
- 1:01:41I mean that moment when George is in.
- 1:01:42Pottersville And he goes to see his mother and she says Uncle
- 1:01:46Billy's been in the insane, the Sound, for the past 20 years.
- 1:01:48You do go. You know what?
- 1:01:50Yeah, that checks out. That's probably where.
- 1:01:52He should be, actually. He gets nothing right.
- 1:01:56At all. I mean, in the wrong hands, he
- 1:01:58could be so annoying and frustrating, but luckily Thomas
- 1:02:01Mitchell is just so likable, you can't help but forgive him.
- 1:02:04And then in amongst all the the kind of daffness that he does,
- 1:02:07that bit where George is yelling at him, but you don't see
- 1:02:09Stewart's face because he's he's got his back to camera and it's
- 1:02:12all played on Mitchell's face. The terror in his eyes at that,
- 1:02:15That's incredible. So, you know, when he needs to
- 1:02:18be dramatic, he can be. Oh, he absolutely can.
- 1:02:20He. Was known as one of Hollywood's
- 1:02:22great character actors at the time, Thomas Mitchell.
- 1:02:24He won an Oscar for Stagecoach. Yeah, that's right.
- 1:02:26And in his acceptance speech, he said.
- 1:02:29I didn't think I was that good, to be honest.
- 1:02:33And. Apparently Capra, I thought.
- 1:02:35About. Thomas Mitchell playing Potter
- 1:02:37at one point, right. And he considered Walter Brennan
- 1:02:40in WC Fields as Uncle Billy, which makes sense.
- 1:02:43I think WC Field in the kind of like oblivious role.
- 1:02:46Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Thomas Mitchell is
- 1:02:48pretty great. It's Billy.
- 1:02:50Well, he's wonderful. Spring wrong his fingers to
- 1:02:51remember everything. Yeah.
- 1:02:53Doesn't know much when it matters, but gets the wedding of
- 1:02:56all things. Yeah.
- 1:02:57Yeah, I wish I was there. Why?
- 1:02:58Weren't you? Yeah.
- 1:03:02That scene after Harry's engagement.
- 1:03:04Party. Billy's leaving the Bailey home.
- 1:03:07He's leaving his old building and lone pal behind.
- 1:03:10And off camera it sounds like he stumbles into some trash cans.
- 1:03:13But what actually happened was a crew member dropped a tray of
- 1:03:16props just after he walked out of shot.
- 1:03:18Right. And when we hear your Billy off
- 1:03:20screen shout, I'm all right. That was improvised by Mitchell.
- 1:03:23Brilliant. And Capra used this take.
- 1:03:25In the final. Couldn't give the crew member
- 1:03:26who dropped the props a $10 bonus for improving the sound.
- 1:03:30I love that. Amazing.
- 1:03:32I'm all. Right all.
- 1:03:34Right. Stewarts laugh as well.
- 1:03:36You can tell. That's.
- 1:03:37Really. Genuine.
- 1:03:38Well, that's it. Yeah, actually.
- 1:03:39Not expecting, it's when. George laughs.
- 1:03:40That's Jimmy Stewart laughing. Yeah.
- 1:03:42He's just, like, crazy. Yeah.
- 1:03:43Yeah, yeah, it's great. It really works for his
- 1:03:46character as well. That the animals are just
- 1:03:48attracted to Billy that's. That argument.
- 1:03:53With George and George. Says one of us is going to
- 1:03:54prison that isn't going to be me and leaves and puts his head on
- 1:03:57the table and that little squirrel just sits on his
- 1:04:00shoulder. Just like it's all right.
- 1:04:02It's all right, but as well as the squirrel, Uncle Billy had a
- 1:04:04pet crow. The bird was played by Jimmy the
- 1:04:06Raven, one of Hollywood's most famous animal actors.
- 1:04:09Capra had worked with Jimmy on You Can't Take It With You in
- 1:04:121938 and loved him so much that Jimmy was in every Capra film
- 1:04:16for the rest of his career. Wow.
- 1:04:18He earned $500 a week and Stuart said whenever Frank called Jimmy
- 1:04:22were both answered. $500 a week. Apparently $200.
- 1:04:28That went to the. Owner and the rest just went to
- 1:04:30Jimmy. Just sound like seed and stuff.
- 1:04:33Booze and fast cars and women, yeah.
- 1:04:36And the Wizard of Oz, you know the bit where Crow lands on the
- 1:04:38Scarecrow and starts like, pecking away them?
- 1:04:40Oh yeah, that's Jimmy. There's.
- 1:04:42Jimmy up the result tricks. Some filmography he's got.
- 1:04:46Amazing, yeah. But yeah, if you know.
- 1:04:47What? It's too Uncle Billy.
- 1:04:48Has got a pet squirrel. He's also got a gerbil, a dog
- 1:04:51and a parrot. Yeah, strange combo.
- 1:04:55Yeah, his house. Fucking.
- 1:04:56Stinks. He.
- 1:04:57Does yeah. Shouldn't be a shot like Ace.
- 1:04:59Ventura when he summons all the animals to him.
- 1:05:01Really. What's the left food for fiber?
- 1:05:05Well, back to James. Stewart and for his performance.
- 1:05:07As George Bailey, he was nominated for an Oscar.
- 1:05:10Lost out to do you know you'll do well to get this whoever was
- 1:05:14in Best. Years of our lives, I can't
- 1:05:16remember. I don't know that one.
- 1:05:18It was Frederick March. For the best days of our lives,
- 1:05:20OK, I mean, nowadays. I'm not sure.
- 1:05:22That's much of A contest, is it? No, not at all.
- 1:05:25Come on. No.
- 1:05:26No, no, but Hollywood. Legend Jimmy Stewart, and it's a
- 1:05:28wonderful. Life.
- 1:05:29One of his biggest movies and greatest performances for us.
- 1:05:32Absolutely one of the best ever. Yeah.
- 1:05:37Behind every great man is a great woman.
- 1:05:39So they say. And that phrase might just have
- 1:05:41been coined after somebody watched It's a Wonderful Life.
- 1:05:44Very true. Donna Reed plays.
- 1:05:46Mary Hatch. Bailey, George's wife.
- 1:05:48We follow her from being a nine year old girl in Bedford Falls
- 1:05:51to a 35 year old mother of four. She's with George every step of
- 1:05:54the way, through ruined honeymoons, broken dreams, and
- 1:05:58at the end of the film rallies the town 4 together when George
- 1:06:01needs her and them the most. And she's got.
- 1:06:04A hell of a norm on her, but. She certainly does whatever I.
- 1:06:08Thought I'm going to read as. Married.
- 1:06:10I mean, look, I've got. As much sympathy for George as
- 1:06:13the next man, he's been dealt a very bad hand in most respects.
- 1:06:16But George, you've seen who you married to.
- 1:06:19We've got to see your wife like life in a bad mate.
- 1:06:23Just come on, have a word by yourself.
- 1:06:26Mary is an. Absolute.
- 1:06:27St. in this constantly puts up with all of George's crap and
- 1:06:31moping and self pity and just always has the answer.
- 1:06:34It's so bringing that when there's the run on the bank and
- 1:06:38George thinks he's going to lose everything to Potter, it's her
- 1:06:40that comes up with a solution. Take our honeymoon money.
- 1:06:43This will get us through it. When George is yelling at the
- 1:06:46kids, the way she stands up to him like a lioness and just
- 1:06:49tells him to get out and leave them alone.
- 1:06:51Incredible. But as soon as he's gone, she
- 1:06:54just snaps into action. She knows something's badly
- 1:06:56wrong, and it's straight in action to get him help.
- 1:06:58She's on the phone. Something's wrong with your dad.
- 1:07:00Phone, Billy. Let's get this sorted.
- 1:07:02Like I say, who wouldn't want to be married to Mary?
- 1:07:04Donna Reed is just brilliant in this.
- 1:07:07Yeah, she really is. She is.
- 1:07:08So patient. All the way through the film,
- 1:07:11even before me. Donna Reed, when we're seeing 9
- 1:07:13year old Mary, she's there in Gawa's drugstore when George
- 1:07:15arrives. And then when he leaves to
- 1:07:17deliver the prescription, she's sitting on a stool.
- 1:07:19Yeah. When George gets back, Gawa says
- 1:07:21the pills should have been delivered more than an hour ago.
- 1:07:23Yeah. And Mary's still sitting there
- 1:07:24on that stool without a word to complaint.
- 1:07:27Yeah. She meant it when she said
- 1:07:28she'll love until the day she dies.
- 1:07:29Yeah. But yeah, Donna Reed is a
- 1:07:32delight start to finish. Yeah.
- 1:07:34And all that. She said that playing Mary was
- 1:07:35the hardest role of her career. She said the Capra was extremely
- 1:07:38demanding, but it doesn't show if she was having a hard time.
- 1:07:41No, no. I mean, she also has a range of
- 1:07:43styles to portray. I love it when she smashes the
- 1:07:46record after George Stones out of the house.
- 1:07:48Yeah, I love it. Yeah.
- 1:07:49And when the drama? Comes at the end.
- 1:07:50You can. Handle that as well.
- 1:07:51I think she plays spinster Mary really well, too.
- 1:07:54But I mean, a beautiful woman even by Hollywood standards,
- 1:07:58brings a real elegance to everything.
- 1:07:59She reminds me of Grace Kelly a bit.
- 1:08:01Yeah, which is high praise, obviously, very much.
- 1:08:04The characters may be more perfect than any real person,
- 1:08:06but I'm not bothered that, you know, I'm glad she is.
- 1:08:09Yeah. I think she's excellent.
- 1:08:10Yeah. And when I think if It's a
- 1:08:11Wonderful Life, I don't just think of Jimmy Stewart, to be
- 1:08:14honest. I think it don't.
- 1:08:15I read as well. Oh, yeah.
- 1:08:16Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
- 1:08:18Hatrick. I mean, is she the most
- 1:08:19wonderful woman in movie history?
- 1:08:21Probably. Definitely.
- 1:08:23Possibly. Yeah, it's not far.
- 1:08:24Off. In the first half of the.
- 1:08:26Film She just lights. Up every frame.
- 1:08:28She's an absolute joy. And because George goes on this
- 1:08:31emotional rollercoaster, Mary's in the cart with him, so she's
- 1:08:34got to traverse all of these different tones as well.
- 1:08:38And that wide eyed joy and love for George, the innocence of
- 1:08:41youths gets slowly eroded as she becomes more world weary and
- 1:08:44worn down by their misfortune, generally at the hands of
- 1:08:47Potter. But unlike George, she does not
- 1:08:49crumble under the weight of that.
- 1:08:51No, she's strong and resolute, keeps things together for the
- 1:08:53family, for the house, for her marriage.
- 1:08:56And I really believe this performance from Donna Reed,
- 1:09:00particularly at this time as well.
- 1:09:01It could have been over the top. It could have been too
- 1:09:03saccharine or too sickly sweet. And the film may not work if
- 1:09:08Jimmy Stewart isn't in it, but Donna Reed provides that
- 1:09:10emotional call of the film and keeps things grounded.
- 1:09:12She's a really reassuring presence, which is all the more
- 1:09:15remarkable that she doesn't have a huge amount of screen time.
- 1:09:18No. Yeah.
- 1:09:19It's focused mainly. On Jimmy Stewart.
- 1:09:22And she's just a like a secondary character generally in
- 1:09:25most of the scenes that she's in.
- 1:09:27And she makes such a huge impression.
- 1:09:29Yeah, she definitely does. But.
- 1:09:31At the time she made it's wonderful.
- 1:09:32Life Donna Reed was already established as a Hollywood
- 1:09:35actress and was signed to MGM. She wasn't a huge star though,
- 1:09:38so saw some other names were considered to play Mary.
- 1:09:41Yeah, she'd be in 20 films before.
- 1:09:42This Donna Mullinger was her real name and MGM changed it
- 1:09:46because of anti German sentiment during World War 2.
- 1:09:49Right? OK, so.
- 1:09:52Kappa's. First choice to play.
- 1:09:53Mary was Jean Arthur, and he'd worked with her on You Can't
- 1:09:56Take It With You and Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
- 1:09:58But she turned it down to appear in a Broadway player.
- 1:10:01OK, yeah. Born yesterday.
- 1:10:03Was the player she? Apparently dropped out with that
- 1:10:04as well due to exhaustion. Oh wow, Capra running her into
- 1:10:07the ground? Probably.
- 1:10:10Martha Scott and Dvorak. And Olivia de Havilland were all
- 1:10:13considered to play Mary as well, and Ginger Rogers turned the
- 1:10:16part down because she'd read the script and said Mary was too
- 1:10:19bland. But in her autobiography years
- 1:10:22later, Rogers wrote about it, saying, Foolish, you say.
- 1:10:25So she might have regretted it, probably.
- 1:10:28For the best though. Imagine Jija Rogers dancing next
- 1:10:30to crazy leg George. What this shit for?
- 1:10:36Then saw the war. Film They.
- 1:10:38Were expendable and he liked its female leaders.
- 1:10:40Mary Donna Reed So Liberty Films approached MGM about Lawn and
- 1:10:43her out John Ford film. They were expendable.
- 1:10:46Yeah, yeah. And Donna Reed played at Navy
- 1:10:48Nurse, which probably helped because maybe he's like everyone
- 1:10:51in Bradford Falls as Nurse isn't you.
- 1:10:53Yeah. And Donna Reed grew.
- 1:10:54Up on a farm in. Iowa And because of that, Lionel
- 1:10:57Barrymore, who will get to in a second, who played Potter in the
- 1:11:00film, challenged out of a cow milk in contest.
- 1:11:02Now, I'm not too sure how this works, how ferocious this needs
- 1:11:06to be, but it kind of freaks us out a little bit.
- 1:11:08But she'd won easily and said it was the easiest $50.00 that she
- 1:11:12ever made. That imagery, That imagery.
- 1:11:15Is 2. Hands or with both of them side
- 1:11:19by. Yeah, what's the contest?
- 1:11:21Is it speed? Is it volume?
- 1:11:23I don't know what were the. Rules.
- 1:11:25Yeah, I need some rules like won't just be like.
- 1:11:28Get a lot of fine clothes. Milk that cow.
- 1:11:31How's this going to work? I think he does have a very
- 1:11:33down. To earth quality.
- 1:11:34Done. I read as well, which maybe
- 1:11:35comes from that kind of background.
- 1:11:37Yeah, I think one of those actresses that everyone likes,
- 1:11:40surely. Oh yeah, no, she's incredible.
- 1:11:42She's almost. Like Dorothy, was it of?
- 1:11:44Oz In my mind, yeah. Yeah.
- 1:11:46And two years after. It's a wonderful life.
- 1:11:47Donna Reed was cast as the female lead in the Stratton
- 1:11:50story. Van Johnson was the main
- 1:11:52character, but when he was replaced by Jimmy Stewart, Reed
- 1:11:55was replaced as well by June Allison.
- 1:11:57According to some reports, it was Stewart that requested they
- 1:12:00replace Reed because It's a Wonderful Life had flopped at
- 1:12:02the box office. She had huge success in the
- 1:12:05later years, though. In TV, she was the star of her
- 1:12:07own sitcom, The Donna Reed Show. Yes.
- 1:12:10Nice. Yeah.
- 1:12:10With Massive. One loads of Emmys.
- 1:12:12I think that's. Your yeah, yeah, huge, really
- 1:12:14good. And the Stratton show, that was
- 1:12:16a. Biopic about Monty Patton, a
- 1:12:17baseball player, right? He was a pitcher.
- 1:12:20So they should have cast on our Reed as the main character.
- 1:12:22Exactly. Yeah, that would be great.
- 1:12:24Yeah, with her arm. Yep.
- 1:12:25Well, for playing Mary and it's a wonderful.
- 1:12:27Life. Donna Reed didn't receive any
- 1:12:28award recognition in 1953. She did win an Oscar for From
- 1:12:32Here to Eternity. OK.
- 1:12:34And for us here as Mary Hatch Bailey, we think she's pretty
- 1:12:37fantastic. Oh yeah, red hot.
- 1:12:40Yeah, integral of the film. Success I think.
- 1:12:44Now for the villain of the piece.
- 1:12:46Lionel Barrymore plays Henry F Potter, the richest, meanest man
- 1:12:49in Bedford Falls. Is some Lord, banker and a.
- 1:12:55Man who sees the Bailey building in lawn as a personal affront.
- 1:12:58He spends the entire film trying to crush George and everything
- 1:13:01the Bailey family stands for the Scrooge of.
- 1:13:04Bedford Falls, W it. How is Lionel Barrymore as
- 1:13:07Potter? I mean, he's just.
- 1:13:10Incredible. Absolutely loving me You need.
- 1:13:13An absolute bastard you need. This person to be.
- 1:13:17Horrible. And he is the physical human
- 1:13:20representation of a virus, of a cancer.
- 1:13:23He just wants to eat this whole town and just bleed it dry.
- 1:13:26He's just, he's horrible. His body's broke and his mind's
- 1:13:30broke and his spirit's broke and he's got no morals and he just
- 1:13:33plays it so well that he's just has absolutely no happiness
- 1:13:38anywhere. There's no joy anywhere.
- 1:13:41It'll absolutely take anybody to the cleaners.
- 1:13:44This would have played probably a little bit too hard had they
- 1:13:46kept the original scene and where he sets the dogs on the
- 1:13:48kids. You can see him doing it.
- 1:13:50You just take that 8 grand off Billy and watch him squirm and
- 1:13:54then watch them walking down the street.
- 1:13:56It's just bilious behaviour and he's horrible.
- 1:13:59What is he getting from this? What is he getting from his
- 1:14:02life? Barrymore's performance here,
- 1:14:04it's just horrible on screen. But again, I think his
- 1:14:06performance makes him so watchable.
- 1:14:08He's just got that horrible villainous quality, like a
- 1:14:11really good Bond bad guy. I just feel sorry for the guy.
- 1:14:14He hasn't got accomplished what he wants to accomplish.
- 1:14:17He's going to die very lonely, devoid of joy, and you know that
- 1:14:21when he's getting pushed to the door, when he finds the money.
- 1:14:23Come on, come on. He can't go any faster.
- 1:14:27That massive wheelchair. He's just a flawed human being.
- 1:14:33Disgusting, but brilliant. I agree.
- 1:14:35I think Potter is. A great villain.
- 1:14:37Yeah. And like an old school one.
- 1:14:38He's all in black. He cackles.
- 1:14:40He's just missing, like a twirling mustache dustedly.
- 1:14:43But what's great is how cool he is.
- 1:14:46He's really calculating, sitting in that wheelchair, just
- 1:14:49scheming. That's him for the whole film,
- 1:14:51basically. I mean, there's no nuance,
- 1:14:53There's no development. But there doesn't need to be.
- 1:14:55George handles all that kind of by himself.
- 1:14:57Potter works great as just bad guy.
- 1:15:00Yeah, yeah. And I think Lionel Barrymore is
- 1:15:02a great piece of casting. You please him with such a like
- 1:15:05stillness. There's no huge theatrics.
- 1:15:08He shows all of his contempt for everything with like mostly his
- 1:15:11eyes and facial expressions. And he bloody hates the building
- 1:15:15and loan. Absolutely.
- 1:15:16He hates. The end of his life, isn't it?
- 1:15:18Yeah, he gets joy from misery. It's amazing.
- 1:15:21He does, and he's awful all the way through.
- 1:15:23But at the end, when Potter discovers Uncle Billy's giving
- 1:15:25him the $8000 and decides to keep it, that is diabolical
- 1:15:29behaviour. Yeah, don't care who you.
- 1:15:31Are that's awful. And he personally calls the
- 1:15:34police to get George. Carter off the jail?
- 1:15:36Inexcusable. I mean Lionel Barrymore was a
- 1:15:38lovely man in real life by all accounts.
- 1:15:40So Cabra Sports was makeup team and told him to create a look
- 1:15:43for Potter influenced by American Gothic.
- 1:15:46The famous painting from the 1930s by Grant Wood The farmer
- 1:15:49was the pitchfork. Like a proper joyless face.
- 1:15:52And that's perfect for Potter. And again, for me, I think he's
- 1:15:55underrated. Potter never seems to get
- 1:15:57mentioned in great villains lists.
- 1:15:59No, you're right. But I think he definitely
- 1:16:01should. He's a great bad guy and.
- 1:16:03Perfectly. Played by Lionel Barrymore, just
- 1:16:06this right piece of shit. Isn't he?
- 1:16:10He's just irredeemable. And the worst thing about him is
- 1:16:14he doesn't need to do any of these actions.
- 1:16:16Doesn't he's already the richest?
- 1:16:18Man in town how? Much more does he need like he
- 1:16:21doesn't need to destroy the building and own, but he wants
- 1:16:24to. It's like you know that bit and
- 1:16:26there will be blood. When Daniel Plainview is looking
- 1:16:28at the map of the country, he goes what's this, why don't I
- 1:16:31own this? That is straight from Potter's
- 1:16:34mouth. It's just nothing but pure it.
- 1:16:36Naked greed for the sake of it, destroying things for the sake
- 1:16:40of it with 0 consideration for who it affects.
- 1:16:42I mean when George visits him begging him for a loan, I mean
- 1:16:46he is practically rejoicing at George's predicament and pretty
- 1:16:49much outright suggest you should just kill yourself because I'm
- 1:16:52going to get the cops on you. And he rejoices in it.
- 1:16:55I mean I agree with you John. Just one of the great cinematic
- 1:16:57villains of all time. And Barrymore?
- 1:16:59Excellent, he really is. Capra had his eye.
- 1:17:02On a number of actors. For the role of Potter Edward
- 1:17:04Arnold, Charles Bickford, Edgar Buchanan and Raymond Massey were
- 1:17:08all considered. Vincent Price was obviously a
- 1:17:11big name that he thought about before he offered the Potter
- 1:17:13Lionel Barrymore. He'd started on stage in the
- 1:17:151890s, going all the way back and in Hollywood in the 1910s on
- 1:17:20silent movies. He had previously worked with
- 1:17:23Capra and Stewart on You Can't Take It With You.
- 1:17:25Yeah, he'd won an Oscar in 19. 31 as well for a film called
- 1:17:28Free Soul. But he was also well known at
- 1:17:31the time for a radio version of A Christmas Carol that CBS had
- 1:17:34broadcast every year since 1934. In that version, Barrymore
- 1:17:38played Ebenezer Scrooge. Of course he did.
- 1:17:41Of course he did. He's not Tiny, Tim is.
- 1:17:44He backflips just out the wheelchair.
- 1:17:50That plus Capra knew him. No brainer.
- 1:17:52As part I, surely. Yeah.
- 1:17:53I mean, pottery is screwed without the arc, isn't he?
- 1:17:56Yeah yeah. Needs a few ghosts to show up.
- 1:17:59Hit him with a toaster. Toaster.
- 1:18:04But I was not. Originally written as.
- 1:18:05Wheelchair bound Lionel Barrymore had suffered from
- 1:18:08arthritis since the 1920s and in the 1930s he fractured his hip
- 1:18:12on two different film sets. Wow.
- 1:18:15Leaving him, obviously. Needing a wheelchair?
- 1:18:17So the role of Potter was adapted to be in the wheelchair.
- 1:18:20Yeah. Not sure about you but.
- 1:18:22I barely know it as Potter's in a wheelchair, to be honest.
- 1:18:24His overall presence just seems to take over.
- 1:18:27Every scene he's in. I always get a surprise.
- 1:18:29Yeah, I think. It really works that he's.
- 1:18:31Physically weak and that this kind of adds to his bitterness.
- 1:18:33Yeah, Yeah, of course it definitely does.
- 1:18:35And a shout out to. Frank Hagney, who plays Potter's
- 1:18:38wordless assistant, pushing him around in that wheelchair.
- 1:18:41Worst job ever. Yeah, just carting Potter on,
- 1:18:43watching him be horrible to everyone.
- 1:18:45The most evil man in the world. All you think about it though,
- 1:18:48it is. Just Mr. Birds and Smithers, it
- 1:18:51really is. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:18:53Yeah. New awards for Lionel Barrymore
- 1:18:55for It's a. Wonderful Life.
- 1:18:56But for us, as part out, we think he's a pretty great
- 1:18:59Christmas villain. Amazing.
- 1:19:01Incredible. One of the best.
- 1:19:03A big cast and it's a wonderful life.
- 1:19:04We've mentioned Thomas Mitchell's Uncle Billy, and
- 1:19:06we'll talk about Henry Travers as Clarence a little later on,
- 1:19:09but in those two leads and villain Jimmy Stewart as George,
- 1:19:12Donna Reed as Mary, and Lionel Barrymore as Potter, 3 Oscar
- 1:19:15winners, some star quality and an excellent lead cast.
- 1:19:19Brilliant. Definitely.
- 1:19:20Yeah, that's standing. Cast.
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- 1:19:39Now back to the show. The middle, we're moving into
- 1:19:48the middle if it's a wonderful. Life now and things are really
- 1:19:51developing. We're going to be talking about
- 1:19:53George and Mary's wedding day, which is eventful to say the
- 1:19:56least. Yeah, it is.
- 1:19:57But first, it's some. Key life moments.
- 1:19:59For George. Oh yeah, so.
- 1:20:02After George's. Father Peter sadly passes away
- 1:20:04the building and loans up for grabs, leading to George
- 1:20:07stepping in. He then does the same at the Hut
- 1:20:09residence, where he and Mary finally become an item in the
- 1:20:12film's more sizzling scene. So how's it all going?
- 1:20:16Look, Yeah, Yeah, well, I'm starting off.
- 1:20:18Here, with the little sentimental hogwash, George's
- 1:20:22foregone his trip to Europe to settle his dad's affairs in the
- 1:20:25unfortunate circumstances, and he's about to go off to the
- 1:20:28retirement home. Sorry school, but that all
- 1:20:31changes. When the.
- 1:20:32Dastardly, Mr. Potter's antics make him angry.
- 1:20:35Yeah, Potter makes a play for the building and loan and talks
- 1:20:38about Peter Bailey in the most disparaging terms, he says.
- 1:20:42A man of high ideals, so-called, Yeah.
- 1:20:49Picture in the background as well like.
- 1:20:50Airplane. Yeah, and he just runs.
- 1:20:53Him down in front of. His nearest and dearest
- 1:20:55outrageous behaviour but George gives this beautifully
- 1:20:58impassioned speech about the backbone of the community and
- 1:21:01how the building in Lorne is central to making the town
- 1:21:03thrive. Potter just yawning through the
- 1:21:06speech. Yeah, I'm.
- 1:21:09Not interested. In your book, I'm talking about
- 1:21:11the building alone. This is just really wonderful,
- 1:21:16the light and. Dark of the story trading blows
- 1:21:19Barrymore hamming it right up as Potter and George isn't able to
- 1:21:22the resist of the pull of family commitments right at the end
- 1:21:26yeah this is the moment where Georges.
- 1:21:27Fate sealed, he's here for life. Yeah, and it's pretty hard
- 1:21:30hitting because we're making the decision to stay in real time.
- 1:21:34I mean, the board have to take some serious responsibility.
- 1:21:36Yeah, Potter's there. He's desperate to absorb the
- 1:21:39building and loan into his bank. He's like a vulture.
- 1:21:41And they're all like, yeah, let's put this guy in.
- 1:21:44Yeah. Yeah, it's Ziggy and Mud.
- 1:21:46It rings far too true for my legging.
- 1:21:48Yeah, but the speech George gives to the.
- 1:21:50Board. Is brilliant.
- 1:21:51It's all emotion. Just slams Potter through the
- 1:21:54floor. It's great, and Stuart delivers
- 1:21:55him as great as everything else. But what I like, it's a cap that
- 1:21:59doesn't frame George as entirely noble.
- 1:22:01There's grief there and there's duty, but there's also clear
- 1:22:04resentment from George and having to take over the building
- 1:22:06alone, which leads into the end brilliantly and makes him
- 1:22:09cracking at the end more believable.
- 1:22:10Yeah. And the final shot in this scene
- 1:22:13when George is on his way out of the office and the guy says
- 1:22:15they'll vote power in if you leave and George stops dead on
- 1:22:18this huge close up of Stewart and then fade out.
- 1:22:21Incredible that. Yeah.
- 1:22:23Great. So, George.
- 1:22:24Is committed to the building. Lawn and he's feeling very sorry
- 1:22:27for himself, which is when he runs into Mary again.
- 1:22:30And it's just more wonderful interplay between Stuart and
- 1:22:33Reed here and one of the best examples of how Capra can just
- 1:22:37shift the tone in one scene effortlessly.
- 1:22:40I mean, I say George really feeling sorry for himself here.
- 1:22:43And it's hilarious how Mary's attempts to cheer in him up just
- 1:22:46fall flat on the face when she starts singing that song and
- 1:22:49leaves it hanging for him to join in.
- 1:22:51And he just goes, oh, yeah, yeah.
- 1:22:55And just like, Waves has had it, like, completely uninterested.
- 1:22:58And then when a mother gets involved, George Bailey, what
- 1:23:01does he want? The look on his face is so
- 1:23:05funny. Like, why is she having a pop?
- 1:23:07Like I know business when he came.
- 1:23:10In here to. Get warm.
- 1:23:12And then Mary yells back up, he's making violent love to me
- 1:23:15mother, and she goes off shrieking.
- 1:23:16So it starts off very funny. But like I said, there's a tonal
- 1:23:20shift because he storms out. Mary smashes the record to
- 1:23:23pieces because she's upset and you feel his anger.
- 1:23:26You feel his disappointment B you feel her hurt at this as
- 1:23:29well. And then cup of shifts the torn
- 1:23:31once again because he has to come back because summary and
- 1:23:34writes on the phone and the attraction between them and you
- 1:23:37said to John it is sizzling at this point between George and
- 1:23:40Mary that incredible close up when they share on that phone
- 1:23:43between them and then when they start kissing and then the break
- 1:23:46in the sobs. You just say hold on.
- 1:23:47I was laughing at this 30 seconds ago.
- 1:23:49How's it ended up here and still makes sense.
- 1:23:52Absolutely no acknowledgement from.
- 1:23:54Mary's mother about smashing that record either, just didn't
- 1:23:57happen. He's just horrible.
- 1:23:59George for. The most part, you know that I
- 1:24:02see it smells like pine needles in here.
- 1:24:04Again, where is your action? Thank you.
- 1:24:08No. Thank you.
- 1:24:09Yeah, no, perfect. But what I got from this scene,
- 1:24:11what we watching it just recently, that's how important
- 1:24:14that phone call is to Sam Wainwright.
- 1:24:16Someone else noticed that George gives him the idea to get the
- 1:24:19factory there. Yes.
- 1:24:21And half the town went out of work.
- 1:24:23And he's basically in some way and writes like, yeah, look at
- 1:24:25what I knew you'd come through. So that's where the factory is.
- 1:24:28So he's given so many more people, so many more
- 1:24:30opportunities and so many more jobs just as he said that
- 1:24:33because it'd be selflessness. Incredible little moment, just,
- 1:24:36you know, blinking. You'll miss it.
- 1:24:38Absolutely. The whole sequence is.
- 1:24:39Just red hot. No, but George, he's a bit
- 1:24:42prickly when he turns up kicking the gate open.
- 1:24:45Yeah. Kicks the gate open.
- 1:24:47Criticizes her is wrong. She's made of him.
- 1:24:49Unbelievable. And it's funny when Mary asked
- 1:24:51George if he likes Harry's wife and he's furious.
- 1:24:53Like, 'cause I like her. She's a Peach.
- 1:24:58Did you get that dressed? Do you like it?
- 1:25:00It's. Alright, and it leads into that
- 1:25:02almighty kiss. Obviously one of the best
- 1:25:04romantic scenes ever to me. I mean, the whole sequence is,
- 1:25:07what, maybe 10 minutes? And it takes us through more
- 1:25:09than most ROM coms manage in 90 minutes or two hours, I think.
- 1:25:12Yeah, Yeah. I would say the final act.
- 1:25:14I think this is the best scene in the film.
- 1:25:16Oh, wow. And one of the great Hollywood
- 1:25:18screen kisses, certainly the angriest from George.
- 1:25:22Impassioned, isn't it? Full of emotion.
- 1:25:24It is full of emotion because sometimes.
- 1:25:25I think it's this him falling in love or is this him just giving
- 1:25:28up? Yeah, Yeah.
- 1:25:29This is who I'm going to be with.
- 1:25:30But I'm going to have to take a fall to be with her.
- 1:25:33And I know that. And he's kind of like falling in
- 1:25:34love but doesn't want to at the same time.
- 1:25:36It's loaded with all of that energy.
- 1:25:38Yeah, it absolutely is. Yeah.
- 1:25:39Because I. Think George loves Mary, but she
- 1:25:41represents him giving up all of his dreams.
- 1:25:43Yeah. Yeah, Stewart.
- 1:25:45Later called Donna Reed the embodiment.
- 1:25:47Of goodness. And he said he found being
- 1:25:49around a disconcerting. It's one word forward.
- 1:25:54With his. Break for the war this was.
- 1:25:56His first love scene in years. So he put off film in this kiss
- 1:25:59for weeks. He asked Reed if she wanted to
- 1:26:02rehearse it beforehand. Of course he did.
- 1:26:03The old devil. But Reed?
- 1:26:07Said I think we should. Just do it.
- 1:26:09No funny business, Cabra agreed. In our rehearsals and Stuart.
- 1:26:13Said that when they did it, their hormones were out of
- 1:26:16control. Quote UN quote.
- 1:26:19His wife was delighted to hear that.
- 1:26:21Yeah, I bet. We did in one take and Stuart.
- 1:26:25Called it one of the best scenes he's ever filmed.
- 1:26:27Of course he did. Loved it he did.
- 1:26:28Yeah, they can't remember. It.
- 1:26:31When they're both on the receive.
- 1:26:32I talked to Sam Wainwright. And then the noses are almost
- 1:26:35touching. I mean, the tension, like,
- 1:26:36through the roof. Electricity, isn't it?
- 1:26:38Yeah, yeah. George grabs on starts.
- 1:26:40Kicking off and then he's all over her like the angriest kiss
- 1:26:43ever. But apparently Stuart and Reed
- 1:26:45got so wrapped up that they skipped a page in the script
- 1:26:48right. And the script supervisor said
- 1:26:49the Capra hang on the left out loads of dialogue here.
- 1:26:52And Capra was like, with that, who needs dialogue?
- 1:26:55Yeah, Amazing. Wonderful, brilliant, brilliant.
- 1:26:57So he knew what he had. I think the kiss.
- 1:26:59Happens when George and Mary are on.
- 1:27:00The phone to George's friend Sam Wainwright, and Sam is offering
- 1:27:03George a job. Capra filmed all of it in real
- 1:27:06time. This is amazing.
- 1:27:07So there's one unit that Capra was part of filming Stuart and
- 1:27:10Reed on one set, then on a different set, the second unit
- 1:27:13was filming Frank Albertson, who played Sam at the same time.
- 1:27:16Oh yes. So Reed and Stuart and Albertson
- 1:27:19were really on the phone to each other, talking to each other
- 1:27:21during the scene. Oh, that's great.
- 1:27:23That's amazing. I would have done.
- 1:27:24Like a Wes Anderson. And just went from one set to
- 1:27:26the. Just on the track, just like
- 1:27:30that's amazing. That, but that's brilliant.
- 1:27:32Love that. Yeah, that's really cool when
- 1:27:33you watch it knowing. That as well.
- 1:27:36And Sam gets dumped through the floor, doesn't he?
- 1:27:38Oh yeah, he even says to George. You're trying to steal.
- 1:27:41My girl. Well, yes, and succeeding
- 1:27:44actually, while you're on the phone, he hold.
- 1:27:46Your way out of that, yeah. So there it is.
- 1:27:49George is the man of. The building alone and finally
- 1:27:52gets his woman in Mary. Some big moments for Georgie
- 1:27:55boy. Oh yeah, huge.
- 1:27:58From there the following segments all.
- 1:28:00About the money as George gets to grips with the building alone
- 1:28:03and has to deal with some problems, George and Mary's
- 1:28:06wedding day is scuppered when George has to get involved in a
- 1:28:08run on the bank and looking to take advantage of the situation,
- 1:28:12Potter tries to make George an offer he can't refuse.
- 1:28:16So how's? It going for USA?
- 1:28:18I mean I haven't seen one before, but this looks like.
- 1:28:20All the hallmarks of a run. To be perfectly honest, it's
- 1:28:23the. Quickest wedding ever, Just
- 1:28:24that. CrossFit.
- 1:28:25Here they come. Bang.
- 1:28:27Straight in we know where we. Are that's absolutely fine.
- 1:28:29You know, they're having a great time and he's finally, George is
- 1:28:32there. He's got married, but he's going
- 1:28:33to escape with her. He's got a way out.
- 1:28:35He loves her, but he's actually going to live his dream with her
- 1:28:38now. It's so tragic if you think
- 1:28:39about it just from that point. Ernie's great in this scene.
- 1:28:42If you see a stranger around here, it's me.
- 1:28:46But yeah, there's a run. On the bank and it's just you.
- 1:28:48Know absolute pandemonium. George cannot get a break, he
- 1:28:51cannot get out of there. Every single time he just gets
- 1:28:54close enough and just gets pulled back in.
- 1:28:57It just feels like there's like this invisible orb around all of
- 1:28:59Bedford Falls and he just can't escape.
- 1:29:01It's like the Truman Show. Every time he gets close to the
- 1:29:03edge, to the border, he has to get pulled back.
- 1:29:06And he's in the building alone. George has let everybody in.
- 1:29:09And here we'll go. What?
- 1:29:10How are we going to save the day?
- 1:29:12What are we going to do? And George has starts
- 1:29:14explaining, you know, the theory behind that place, like, your
- 1:29:17money is not here. It's in the houses here.
- 1:29:18It's in the community. It's everybody working together.
- 1:29:20And nobody understands that. And it's selfishness that
- 1:29:22completely takes over this scene.
- 1:29:24And this is where Mary just really stands up.
- 1:29:27She's been his wife for what, like 3 hours?
- 1:29:30And she's perfectly George Bailey's wife here because she's
- 1:29:34selfless. She's not thinking about herself
- 1:29:36at all. She's completely thinking about
- 1:29:37George at the same time she's thinking about the community.
- 1:29:40It's not just to impress George. So literally it's nothing from
- 1:29:42the situation and pulls out $2000.
- 1:29:45How much do you need me? I wouldn't be pulling that 2
- 1:29:48grand out. Yeah, on me way to the.
- 1:29:52Honeymoon about. I mean, how much of a Dick is
- 1:29:56Tom please? It's awful 200.
- 1:29:59And $72. And that's a loan now.
- 1:30:02I would have closed his account. I'm.
- 1:30:05Farley cynical to be comment. About the happiness of this
- 1:30:08film. So I wouldn't have done that.
- 1:30:09And I'm like, Potter, I'm not interested in your book.
- 1:30:12And just my favorite, favorite bit in this scene is absolutely
- 1:30:16wonderful and comes from an actress called Ellen Corby, who
- 1:30:19in the script she was meant to go up and ask for for $17.00.
- 1:30:22Yeah, and Capra? Pulled out one side just.
- 1:30:25Before they were film and said asking for 1750, just put that
- 1:30:2850 in there and just see what happens.
- 1:30:30And then asked him. And then this is James Stewart's
- 1:30:32real reaction. Just like just everything goes
- 1:30:34quiet. Can I have 1750?
- 1:30:36And he just pauses for a second. And that kiss on the cheek is
- 1:30:39just so genuine and wonderful. And you just lift from that
- 1:30:43moment. And George forgets about it
- 1:30:45because, again, he's thinking about everybody but himself.
- 1:30:47Even on his wedding day. Yes.
- 1:30:50And Ellen Corby? She went on the play of the
- 1:30:51grandma in the wilderness. That's right.
- 1:30:53Yeah, yeah, yeah. She.
- 1:30:54Won three Emmys for that. Yeah, I mean this moment.
- 1:30:58Starts off with absolute wedded bliss, the happy couple
- 1:31:01surrounded by the whole town. Even Violet's got a smile on her
- 1:31:03face. I love that.
- 1:31:06Mum when they get in the. Cab Ernie asks where they're
- 1:31:08going on this here honeymoon and they've got it all mapped out.
- 1:31:11The richest caviar, the oldest champagne, New York, Bermuda.
- 1:31:15They've got a massive lot of cash.
- 1:31:16Ernie's so wrapped up in their own plans he lets out the lions
- 1:31:20roar. But you just know that all of
- 1:31:25the plans. Are going to fall flat on their
- 1:31:27face yet again. George thwarted at every turn.
- 1:31:31Uncle Billy is under so much stress at the building in Lawn
- 1:31:33that he's boozing on the job while he reveals the terrible
- 1:31:36news. Pathetic.
- 1:31:38Everyone's going to. Pull out and get. $0.50 on the
- 1:31:40dollar from Potter Disaster. But really, the moment I love
- 1:31:43here is that one long take at the door where George appeals to
- 1:31:47the good nature of the community.
- 1:31:49He's got pages and pages of dialogue, and he delivers them
- 1:31:52faultlessly with no cuts, loads of emotion.
- 1:31:55The intonation delivery is incredible.
- 1:31:57But then he's joined by all the other actors in the scene,
- 1:31:59hitting their marks after his dialogue.
- 1:32:02Amazing time. And I think it's an acting
- 1:32:04master class, that one, yeah, really is.
- 1:32:06And the focus isn't on. George, either if you watch
- 1:32:08where the camera is actually focused on the crowd, not on
- 1:32:10him. Sideways on, isn't he?
- 1:32:11Yeah, yeah. Yeah, must be the worst wedding
- 1:32:14day. Ever.
- 1:32:15Surely. I'm not sure how George is
- 1:32:17getting married and jetting off on his honeymoon and has no idea
- 1:32:19what's going on at the bank. Yeah, he's left Billy in.
- 1:32:23Charge doesn't need to worry. He's got his best man on the
- 1:32:25job, hasn't he? Yeah.
- 1:32:26But fine because. Once we're in there, the whole.
- 1:32:28Scene is great George having to turn the customers demanding
- 1:32:31their money back on side and Stuart at his charismatic best
- 1:32:35holding thought is great one of the key moments around the
- 1:32:38importance of community. I think I think the writings top
- 1:32:41notch. It's like an indictment on
- 1:32:42capitalism and it kind of demonstrates how it works.
- 1:32:45George spells out how he's been beyond fair.
- 1:32:47He says Ed remember last year when you couldn't make your
- 1:32:50payments. Do you think Potter would let
- 1:32:51you keep your house? I mean, you throw this poor head
- 1:32:53right in front of the bus in front of everybody, but I think
- 1:32:57they're saying. That's how it works.
- 1:32:58It's Sniffer. Trouble it becomes every man,
- 1:33:00woman for themselves. And that's when people like
- 1:33:02Potter steam in to take advantage.
- 1:33:04Yeah. But I think this is one of the
- 1:33:06reasons the film is so highly regarded.
- 1:33:07It's a Christmas classic but has some really good writing and
- 1:33:10themes with actual substance in there.
- 1:33:13Yeah. And of course, it ends in a
- 1:33:14lucky way with George and Mary pulling it back as they always
- 1:33:17do, George leaping back and forth over the desk.
- 1:33:20I love it. So, Yeah.
- 1:33:22Excellent. And possibly George's finest
- 1:33:24hour in the film. Saving the day.
- 1:33:26Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
- 1:33:27Mary's definitely. Mary's So it's been a very, very
- 1:33:30long day for. George And he finally goes home
- 1:33:32and you're just saying, is there anything Mary can't do?
- 1:33:35I mean, they've had to give away the honeymoon money.
- 1:33:38There goes that dream and she's still sorting everything out for
- 1:33:41him. Like she doesn't feel sorry for
- 1:33:43herself for one minute, considering everything she's had
- 1:33:46to give up here. Doesn't run and weave, just a
- 1:33:48straight in with rope. George is working.
- 1:33:50They had better make sure he's got some kind of home to come
- 1:33:52back to. And the she ingenuity of cooking
- 1:33:54those chickens over the fire by hooking them up to the record
- 1:33:57player. That's great.
- 1:33:58That's amazing. Just just the perfect woman at
- 1:34:01this point. And then you've got the solid
- 1:34:04friendship from Bert and Ernie, who are back in Georgia up here
- 1:34:06putting the posters up. I love the little tip of the
- 1:34:08hat. Yeah, with the water.
- 1:34:10Yeah, with the water coming. Out because.
- 1:34:11He's welcoming them in, but I'll tell you what, this is
- 1:34:14technically still George and Mary's honeymoon.
- 1:34:16I don't think Bert and Ernie need to stick around in the
- 1:34:18piston rain singing to them outside.
- 1:34:21Not really. We've got things to be getting
- 1:34:22on. With lads.
- 1:34:23Like. You know, if that was me, I
- 1:34:25wouldn't want you serenading me outside on my honeymoon night.
- 1:34:28Like go home please. It's amazing how to pull that
- 1:34:31off. I mean, if anyone else if I've
- 1:34:32tried it that chicken to be raw by the time you got home
- 1:34:34freezing. No posters up, just playing
- 1:34:37Megadeth and. The raw chicken.
- 1:34:42Yeah, Mary is a dream come true. Isn't she?
- 1:34:45Oh, what? Oh yeah.
- 1:34:46Unbelievable. The building in Loma.
- 1:34:47She ripped out the water cash. And then this, yeah, it's a
- 1:34:50great moment. Yeah, skipping ahead a little
- 1:34:53bit. The moment where George gets a
- 1:34:55very tempting job offer from Potter, he's teetering on the
- 1:34:58edge. Oh yeah, because Potter has been
- 1:35:00trying to get his. Hooks in.
- 1:35:01All the time and George has resisted.
- 1:35:03We all know that Potter is an absolute bastard, but by this
- 1:35:07point, George hasn't been able to catch a break and he's been
- 1:35:09trapped by his circumstances, worn down.
- 1:35:12Which is why he sees those dollar signs, all 20,000 of
- 1:35:15them. The storytelling.
- 1:35:17He is pretty wonderful. Because a lot of this scene is
- 1:35:20powered by the previous scene where Sam's talking about the
- 1:35:22missed opportunity of not getting in on the business at
- 1:35:25the ground level. They aren't able to join them in
- 1:35:27Florida. All the things that he would
- 1:35:29just love to do. But George comes to his senses
- 1:35:32in that wonderful moment when he shakes pot his hand.
- 1:35:34He sees himself shaking hands with the devil and he does not
- 1:35:37like what he sees. His facial expression is
- 1:35:40amazing. Great.
- 1:35:41I don't need 24 hours, yeah. Yeah, I think the writing is
- 1:35:44really. Clever because to now.
- 1:35:46George has already made sacrifices for the community and
- 1:35:48for Harry, and it's custom. I mean, narratively, we don't
- 1:35:52need this moment, but it's OK because it's George's chance to
- 1:35:55get out of it, to get back to where he wanted to be.
- 1:35:57And he still says no. I mean, any seamer pot has
- 1:36:01dynamite. So it's already tense when
- 1:36:02George is summoned to his office and the setup tiny chair for
- 1:36:06George, he's practically sitting on the floor.
- 1:36:09That's for everybody though, isn't it?
- 1:36:11So. I can feel more powerful.
- 1:36:12Well, exactly. Yeah.
- 1:36:14And 20. $1000 a year you offers him.
- 1:36:15That was an astronomical salary. Massive in 1946.
- 1:36:19He was massive now. And George is tempted.
- 1:36:23He takes a. Cigar.
- 1:36:24He accepts the job at 1st, and then as soon as he touches
- 1:36:27Potter's called dead hands, it kind of snaps him back to
- 1:36:29reality. Yeah.
- 1:36:30Because Potter's not really making a job offer.
- 1:36:31Yeah. He's trying to kill the building
- 1:36:33and loan once and for all, and he's going for the sauce.
- 1:36:34Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Stuart's fantastic again,
- 1:36:37especially when he snaps and turns on Potter.
- 1:36:39And then again, it's somehow the tone shifts at the end and ends
- 1:36:43funny with George shouting And it goes for you too.
- 1:36:45And everyone. I just love the visual
- 1:36:49storytelling. He I mean.
- 1:36:50We've said that thing about the small chair, but the more that
- 1:36:52George considers Potter's offer, the lower he sinks into that
- 1:36:56seat because he's being tempted into this moral abyss, and he's
- 1:36:59sinking to Potter's level in that visual of George on one
- 1:37:02side of the screen, Potter and his assistant on the other.
- 1:37:05So even though they're trying to tempt him with this offer, it's
- 1:37:08actually about them ganging up on him.
- 1:37:09That's so effective. And I think that gets repeated
- 1:37:12later on when George begs Potter for money.
- 1:37:14But it's all much tighter in the frame.
- 1:37:16And you've got the statue, which is him and George in as well.
- 1:37:19So great saying because this is all about Potter trying to trap
- 1:37:22George, both narratively and then visually from Capra.
- 1:37:25Yeah. So that's Act 2 of.
- 1:37:27It's a wonderful. Life.
- 1:37:28The Baileys get married, the bank gets a run on it, and
- 1:37:31George rejects Potter. Seems to be setting us up quite
- 1:37:34nicely through a huge finale. I wonder if we'll get one.
- 1:37:38I wonder. Hope so.
- 1:37:42The crew to make an all time Christmas classic.
- 1:37:48You don't just need big names in front of the camera, you need
- 1:37:50big talent behind it as well, and we're going to talk about
- 1:37:53some of those people now by delving into the crew on It's a
- 1:37:56Wonderful Life. We're talking Dmitri Tiomkin as
- 1:37:59the composer on the film and Joseph Walker and Joseph Baraka
- 1:38:02as the directors of photography. But let's begin with the
- 1:38:05screenplay and writing. Should we?
- 1:38:07Yes, indeed. So the credited screenwriters on
- 1:38:10it's a. Wonderful life of Francis
- 1:38:11Goodrich Albert Hackett and frank capra Goodrich and Hackett
- 1:38:15were wife and husband writing team who'd already been Oscar
- 1:38:18nominated for the thin man and after the thin man from 1934 and
- 1:38:2136 frank capra though we had numerous story and dialogue
- 1:38:25credit before this, this was just his second full screenplay
- 1:38:29writing credit after that certain thing in 1928.
- 1:38:33An accomplished Co writing team and it's a wonderful life.
- 1:38:35Then Matt does it show? Really does, because it's so.
- 1:38:40Patiently written, it's like a trail of bread crumbs and
- 1:38:43everything will pay off once you get at the end.
- 1:38:45I mean, when you're in Pottersville and you see what
- 1:38:48has happened to Mr. Gower, you've kind of forgotten at that
- 1:38:51point what George did from back then and you just get that
- 1:38:54realization of oh God, of course he'd have gone to jail if George
- 1:38:57hadn't stepped in to save him. The fact that George loses to
- 1:39:00see and so early on it seems quite innocuous, but actually it
- 1:39:04keeps him out of the war and it becomes his first clue that
- 1:39:06actually Clarence has changed everything around him.
- 1:39:09When the given where the honeymoon money to save the
- 1:39:12building on when we've talked about how awful Tommy is because
- 1:39:14he wants all of his money back, but that gets flipped on it's
- 1:39:18head when he's one of the first people to turn up with George's
- 1:39:20house to help him out with some money.
- 1:39:22So it is filled with all these little setups along the way in
- 1:39:25the same fairly low key because most of them are just George
- 1:39:28being a decent guy, but they've got a monumental impact in the
- 1:39:31sorry further down the line. And that really sends out in the
- 1:39:33writing to me. It does me as well.
- 1:39:36Yeah, I think it's got such a vein.
- 1:39:38Of melancholy running through it's George can never catch a
- 1:39:41break. He loses his here and he gets
- 1:39:43roughed up by Mr. Gower. Abandons his dreams every single
- 1:39:47time he's about to escape Bedford Falls, off to college,
- 1:39:49off to see the world on his honeymoon.
- 1:39:51Something pulls him back and the screenplay just keeps twisting
- 1:39:55that knife through every scene. Through every life.
- 1:39:58Moment. And I think what's smart is that
- 1:40:01it's never really one big tragedy.
- 1:40:03It's death by 1000 cuts. Each sacrifice feels small and
- 1:40:07noble in the moment. Of course he's going to let
- 1:40:09Harry go to college. Of course he's going to give his
- 1:40:12honeymoon money to the community.
- 1:40:14But they all accumulate, and the screenplay tracks that
- 1:40:18accumulation so carefully that by the time we reached Christmas
- 1:40:21Eve, we completely understand how this fundamentally decent
- 1:40:25man has ended up on a bridge close to the very end.
- 1:40:29I think it's structurally very brave.
- 1:40:31The scripts spent so long in the darkness, built in this case for
- 1:40:34despair, that the redemption has to work overtime.
- 1:40:37But because the ground works so solid, it earns every bit of it.
- 1:40:41Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they've got a lot
- 1:40:44to cram in. In 130 Minutes, Lords telling
- 1:40:47the story of the life of George Bailey.
- 1:40:49Basically, the structure focuses on the big key moments of his
- 1:40:52life. We jump from saving Harry to
- 1:40:54meeting Mary to getting married. I mean, when that's all things
- 1:40:57done in films, it sometimes doesn't work because it means
- 1:41:00it's often a lot of coincidences that have to take place.
- 1:41:03Lots of things happening at the same time, like the wedding day
- 1:41:06slash run on the bank we just talked about.
- 1:41:09But here it works brilliantly and I think the reason it works
- 1:41:11so well is because of what I think is possibly the main theme
- 1:41:15of the film, which is helping others.
- 1:41:17There's other themes like capitalism, faith, community,
- 1:41:20but I think the film explores sacrifice really well all the
- 1:41:24way through. George sacrifices himself to
- 1:41:26help with us, but every time he does, he's punished for it.
- 1:41:29He saves Harry and loses the hearing in his left ear.
- 1:41:32He saves Mr. Gower and takes a beating for it.
- 1:41:34He stops Potter taking over the building alone and has to give
- 1:41:37up college. He carries on margin the
- 1:41:39building and loans of how he can accept the job offer and he
- 1:41:41gives up on travelling the world.
- 1:41:43The message for the first two acts seems to be don't help
- 1:41:45anyone else, because if you do, you'll bloody pay for it.
- 1:41:49Yeah, but then Clarence comes along.
- 1:41:51He sure was George or Bedford Falls would be like without him.
- 1:41:53And George says how much value his life has.
- 1:41:55And then we get the end where the townsfolk band around to
- 1:41:58help George when he needs them, and they help him because of all
- 1:42:01the times he's helped them. I mean, it's a huge, ambitious
- 1:42:04ending, but they've earned it by putting the groundwork in with
- 1:42:07all those other moments I'm talking about from George's
- 1:42:10life. I'll buy 100% that Bedford Falls
- 1:42:13turns up for George at the end. We'll talk about it more later.
- 1:42:16But at that point, the message changes.
- 1:42:19It becomes, you should help others because even if it feels
- 1:42:21like you're losing out, you're not.
- 1:42:23It gives your life value. Even if you can't see the
- 1:42:25benefit, your life's enriched by helping others.
- 1:42:28And that theme, I think, clearly drives every decision the
- 1:42:31writers make start to finish. It's not just your standard
- 1:42:34Christmas movie message of a symbol help others.
- 1:42:37It really explores it like good writers do.
- 1:42:40And it presents both sides of it as well.
- 1:42:42And I think that message is a big reason people keep coming
- 1:42:44back to the movie every year. Because it's a wonderful
- 1:42:47message, isn't it? Yeah.
- 1:42:49Wonderful life, wonderful message.
- 1:42:50Yeah, might as well just call it that.
- 1:42:55Yeah, I mean, I think about this.
- 1:42:56Film often and it's always a Christmas time and I think about
- 1:43:01how impossible this is to be done again to remake.
- 1:43:05It's an incredible story, but the writing for me just seems to
- 1:43:08be so of the time so specific to this one person, this one story.
- 1:43:13I mean if you look at A Christmas Carol, which is
- 1:43:15probably the closest to this, which is written well before it.
- 1:43:18How many times have the remade that, oh, this guy's screwed
- 1:43:20this time One know the story, would love to see the story, but
- 1:43:23this you can't just go well, it's wonderful.
- 1:43:26Like this guy's George Bailey. Now.
- 1:43:28I think it's the dialogue. I think it's the characters.
- 1:43:30I think it's the way that it is of the time, but the themes in
- 1:43:33this are so specific that the can't be remade that can't be
- 1:43:37taken anywhere else. It's not a generic story.
- 1:43:39It just feels like the writing is very, very precise about this
- 1:43:43one story and a lot of that is the dialogue, which absolutely
- 1:43:47sings for me. Yes, it's of the time, but
- 1:43:50there's a lot of it that just really makes sense.
- 1:43:52Like, this completely makes sense.
- 1:43:54It's just absolutely timeless and the themes that you've all
- 1:43:57spoke about still relevant now, but nobody's ever done it this
- 1:44:01well because it's not taken in a fantastical way.
- 1:44:05I mean, think about what happens in this film.
- 1:44:07Angels turn up and praise. All of this stuff turns around
- 1:44:10and this, you know, you didn't save this guy's life and you
- 1:44:12didn't do it. But it doesn't seem fantastical.
- 1:44:14It seems like it's grounded in this reality that I think they
- 1:44:17were writing it with such a serious outlook and such a
- 1:44:21serious tone. There's no fat on this
- 1:44:23whatsoever. It is so lean and sort of the
- 1:44:26point in such a direct message that I think if you read this
- 1:44:30screenplay, you would go right, well, this needs to be made and
- 1:44:34made once. We cannot replicate this ever
- 1:44:36again. People have tried and the failed
- 1:44:38time and time again. It's a piece of writing that is
- 1:44:41just of the time to be made. Then take the tablets that you
- 1:44:45Moses brought down, like the 10 Commandments, like it's just
- 1:44:48written in stone and it's made for that time and you can't
- 1:44:51replace it. I think it's just genius because
- 1:44:53it's just so well done, so well explored, and like I say, it
- 1:44:56just can't be replicated. Yeah, of the time, but with
- 1:44:59Timeless. Themes as well.
- 1:45:00I know it's it. It really makes sense.
- 1:45:02It's. Just got this real directness to
- 1:45:03it. It resonates.
- 1:45:05Still. Relevant for certain.
- 1:45:06Absolutely. Yeah.
- 1:45:07So the film is based on a. Book and that's called The
- 1:45:10Greatest Gift and that was written by Philip Van Doren
- 1:45:13Stern and he said that in 1938 he woke up after a dream.
- 1:45:17I was reminiscent of Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol when
- 1:45:20he was shaving the whole story for The Greatest Gift came to
- 1:45:23him. Yeah, the Christmas Carol.
- 1:45:25Starting point, I think that's fairly obvious, isn't it?
- 1:45:27Yeah, I think so. It's like start to finish.
- 1:45:29Just about. But Van Dorenstein.
- 1:45:32Struggle to. Sell the idea to a publisher.
- 1:45:34So on Christmas 1943 what he did was he adapted the story into a
- 1:45:3821 page Christmas card, had 200 copies printed and send it out
- 1:45:42to family and friends titled The Greatest Gift, a Christmas Tale.
- 1:45:46Imagine getting a 21 page. Christmas card massive effort is
- 1:45:50this. Apparently Van Doren Stern.
- 1:45:53Personally signed all the copies as well, right, So might have
- 1:45:57thought a little high leave himself even at that stage.
- 1:45:58A little bit later, I'll sign that for you, Yeah.
- 1:46:02Who are you? That'll.
- 1:46:04Be worth something, Yeah. And Van Doren, Stern's daughter.
- 1:46:08Marguerite later said that in March 1944, there was a phone
- 1:46:12call at the house. She just heard her father yell
- 1:46:14hold me up. I can't believe it.
- 1:46:16It was his agent on the phone saying he'd received an offer
- 1:46:19from RQ or Pictures to buy the greatest gift.
- 1:46:22Amazing. Yeah, it happened.
- 1:46:23Because the epic. Christmas card ended up in front
- 1:46:26of David Hempstead, an archaeo producer.
- 1:46:28Yeah. So Van Dorenstein was looking
- 1:46:30for a boot publisher and Hollywood turned up.
- 1:46:32Yeah, I'd collapse as well. Nice to know.
- 1:46:34Wasn't the one of the people? That you sent the the whole
- 1:46:36Christmas card to his actual agent, though.
- 1:46:39Then his agent, then put it in the producer's desk.
- 1:46:41Yeah, give it to your agent first.
- 1:46:43Yeah, exactly. Yeah, don't make him one of the.
- 1:46:45200 people like. You kind of go straight to him.
- 1:46:48And go. What do you think of this?
- 1:46:49Maybe. Yeah, that will work.
- 1:46:51The first writers. Archaeo Hired to work on the
- 1:46:54screenplay were Clifford Odets, Mark Connelly and Dalton Trumbo,
- 1:46:58who all wrote separate scripts in Trumbo's draft.
- 1:47:01George Bailey was a politician who grows more cynical as the
- 1:47:03story progresses, then tries to commit suicide after losing an
- 1:47:07election. Clarence then shows in Bedford
- 1:47:09Falls if he had gone into business instead of politics,
- 1:47:12not as it would be if he'd never been born.
- 1:47:15Right, Right. Yeah, that's.
- 1:47:16When they were writing. With Cary.
- 1:47:17Grant in mind as George, that sounds like a might have suited
- 1:47:21Grant a bit more, a little bit more definitely that.
- 1:47:23Politician figure a much cooler story though.
- 1:47:26Like be a. Businessman and you'll be a
- 1:47:27success, where this is more about being a good human and
- 1:47:29you'll be a success. Yeah, exactly.
- 1:47:31And as we talked. About those scripts that
- 1:47:33gathering dust, Frank Capra bought the rights of the
- 1:47:35greatest gift. He hired Albert Hackett and
- 1:47:37Francis Goodwich to help him write it because of their
- 1:47:39reputation after the casting of Jimmy Stewart, maybe even
- 1:47:43alongside it. Possibly the most important
- 1:47:45higher cap I made was Hackett and Goodrich and the writers.
- 1:47:49Did make quite a lot of changes to Van Dorensen's book for the
- 1:47:53big screen. As we've been saying, the title
- 1:47:55has changed from The Greatest Gift, but it wasn't immediately
- 1:47:57changed to It's a Wonderful Life.
- 1:47:59A title I was seriously considered first was The Man Who
- 1:48:02Was Never Born. Sounds like the Hitchcock
- 1:48:05version. Loads of.
- 1:48:07Murders. No great of that one.
- 1:48:09No, the greatest gift? Better than.
- 1:48:11That and in the book George's surname.
- 1:48:15Isn't Bailey, It's Pratt. In this minimal back story, the
- 1:48:18book opens with George on Christmas Eve, ready to kill
- 1:48:20himself. Yeah, it.
- 1:48:23Sounds like a pretty great opener.
- 1:48:24To be honest. But we need that back story
- 1:48:26though, don't we? Oh absolutely.
- 1:48:28Yeah, 100%. Yeah, so the opening 2 acts
- 1:48:31were? All added for the film.
- 1:48:32So a huge change straight off. It's got a massive start.
- 1:48:36A lethal weapon open on a suicide.
- 1:48:40It influenced everything. This hasn't.
- 1:48:41It really has. Christmas.
- 1:48:43Yeah, and also in the book there's no.
- 1:48:46Clarence George is shown his alternate life by a mysterious
- 1:48:49stranger. There's also no Uncle Billy or
- 1:48:52Mr. Potter. They were created by Goodrich
- 1:48:54and Hackett. Nice does that.
- 1:48:56Mysterious. Strange.
- 1:48:57End up being Benjamin Franklin. Ben.
- 1:49:03Oh yeah, the. Whole an Angel getting his.
- 1:49:04Wings thing isn't in the book. Pottersville isn't in the book.
- 1:49:07The Mr. Gawa segment isn't in the book.
- 1:49:10I mean, these are enormous contributions from good Rich and
- 1:49:12Haggis. Yeah, no, definitely and.
- 1:49:15The book ends very. Quietly, just with George back
- 1:49:18at home thinking about how he nearly sent Mary to this never
- 1:49:20born world where her life is much worse.
- 1:49:23Yeah, the film. Not quite.
- 1:49:24As quiet and. Ending.
- 1:49:25Is it just the whole town in one house?
- 1:49:31He just gets back and says. Few and then it ends.
- 1:49:36But Van Dornstein told. A story later.
- 1:49:38That on New Year's Eve 1946, he received a letter from Jimmy
- 1:49:41Stewart that said thank you for giving us that idea.
- 1:49:43I think it's the best one anyone's had for a long time.
- 1:49:47Nice classy guy you might. Have been right.
- 1:49:49Since Charles Dickens, anyway. Yeah, Capra had some.
- 1:49:53Input into the script as. Well, he took elements from his
- 1:49:56own life, so Harry becoming an engineer and Sam Wainwright
- 1:49:59works in plastics. These both came from Capra's own
- 1:50:01education and chemical engineering.
- 1:50:03Lovely. And the Martinis, the family who
- 1:50:05owned the bar and George move into Bailey Park.
- 1:50:07They're based on Capra's own family who emigrated from Sicily
- 1:50:10in 19 O3. Great.
- 1:50:13You had got a goat in the car. Haven't it?
- 1:50:15Yeah, I love the way. Mary, just like, holds the horns
- 1:50:18because they're dangerous. Yeah.
- 1:50:21But the Italian word for goat? Is Capra right?
- 1:50:24There you go. OK.
- 1:50:26Lovely personal. Touch.
- 1:50:27Nice coming from Sicily in. 1903 like Vito Collio.
- 1:50:30I know, yeah. Not quite as dramatic, I
- 1:50:34wouldn't imagine. Definitely Albert Hakinden.
- 1:50:37Francis Goodrich. Didn't get on with Frank Capra,
- 1:50:40Goodrich said. Oh, that horrid man.
- 1:50:42He just couldn't wait to get writing it all by himself.
- 1:50:46And when Hackett. And Goodrich were writing the.
- 1:50:48Script Capra was rewriting what they sent him behind their backs
- 1:50:51with a writer called Joe Swirlan.
- 1:50:53He also brought in Dorothy Parker as a consultant.
- 1:50:57Nasty. Yeah.
- 1:50:58Stephen, Yeah. Joe Swirling had written 5.
- 1:51:01Capra films before this, and Albert Hackett said about Capra,
- 1:51:04he's a very arrogant son of a bitch, right?
- 1:51:07You don't want to call Francis, my dear woman, and get away with
- 1:51:09it. I can imagine.
- 1:51:12That was the catalyst. Just called his wife my.
- 1:51:13Ideal woman. Yeah.
- 1:51:14And that was it. She never spoke to him again.
- 1:51:16Brilliant. So because there were so many
- 1:51:20names involved. In the writing process, the
- 1:51:22Screenwriters Arbitration Committee had to get involved
- 1:51:25hacked, and Goodrich wanted Copper and Joe Swirling's
- 1:51:28credits removed entirely. Copper agreed to Swirling being
- 1:51:31removed, but not himself. That's good of them.
- 1:51:35Thanks, Frank. So that's why the.
- 1:51:37Screenplay is credit to Francis Goodrich, Albert Hackett and
- 1:51:40Frank Capra. Yeah, he agreed with Swirling.
- 1:51:43Being removed but not him. I'll give you a swirling and,
- 1:51:51unsurprisingly, Joe. Swirling.
- 1:51:52Apparently never spoke to Capra again, no.
- 1:51:55And Hackett and Goodrich never worked with him again.
- 1:51:58Enemies all over the place. Yeah, so after all that.
- 1:52:01Francis Goodrich, Albert Hackett and Frank Capra were not
- 1:52:04nominated of the Oscars. Capra never wrote another full
- 1:52:07screenplay ever again, but Goodrich and Hackett went on to
- 1:52:10ride Father of the Bride, 7 Brides for Seven Brothers,
- 1:52:12Easter Parade and The Diary of Anne Frank.
- 1:52:15Right, right. Big career for them.
- 1:52:17Brilliant. Some trouble with the writing
- 1:52:18and It's a Wonderful Life it seems.
- 1:52:20Then they pulled it all together though.
- 1:52:22And pretty exceptional Christmas film writing for us.
- 1:52:25Yeah, absolutely. Without.
- 1:52:27Doubt and some pretty great Christmas card writing as.
- 1:52:29Well, definitely 21 pages. Of it some.
- 1:52:32Dedicated Christmas card writing.
- 1:52:36Moving on from the writing to the music.
- 1:52:38And the composer, and It's a Wonderful Life was Dmitri
- 1:52:40Tiomkin, a Russian born classical composer by trade.
- 1:52:44By this point he's already been working in Hollywood for a
- 1:52:46couple of decades and it worked with Capra 4 times before this,
- 1:52:50including You Can't Take It With You and Mr. Smith Goes to
- 1:52:52Washington and he had 4 Oscar nominations under his belt.
- 1:52:57Big chops to meet with Tiomkin. Not exactly a household name
- 1:52:59Luke, but a lot of Hollywood success houses music on It's a
- 1:53:03Wonderful Life. I think he does something very
- 1:53:06smart. In his music, in his work, it
- 1:53:10knows when to step forward and when to disappear entirely.
- 1:53:14For a film with such emotional peaks and valleys, a
- 1:53:18heavy-handed score could have, you know, tipped everything over
- 1:53:20the edge. But Tiankin shows a lot of
- 1:53:22restraint. Yeah, I totally agree with that.
- 1:53:24Yeah, often you. Don't notice that the.
- 1:53:26Music is there. I do like the way that he weaves
- 1:53:28Buffalo gals throughout the film as George and Mary's theme.
- 1:53:31It's playful at the start, hopeful.
- 1:53:34But by the time we hear echoes of it later, it's it's
- 1:53:36bittersweet. Same tune, just a different
- 1:53:39emotional weight. Yeah, it's like a Radiohead
- 1:53:41cover by the end. Terrifying.
- 1:53:47And then there's that Pottersville sequence where the
- 1:53:49score goes really dark. It's almost like noir, all
- 1:53:53tension and nice. Tiompkins got a unique
- 1:53:57understanding of the brief. He's not scoring a Christmas
- 1:53:59film anymore. He's scoring a nightmare
- 1:54:01sequence. But he also knows that silence
- 1:54:03works as well. Some of the film's most
- 1:54:05devastating moments play without any score at all.
- 1:54:08And that restraint is just as important as his music.
- 1:54:11Great work. Yeah, For me, it's not
- 1:54:13necessarily. The fact that there is a score
- 1:54:16in this film, for me, it's the flourishes that he does and he
- 1:54:20really reads the emotion in the room.
- 1:54:22He's not writing a score, he's writing emotion and he's doing
- 1:54:25it really well and it doesn't smack you over the head with it.
- 1:54:27But there's just a couple of little bits that really get me.
- 1:54:30You mentioned the close up John when they said but George,
- 1:54:33they're going to go with Potter. Otherwise that flourish of music
- 1:54:36is just doom. It's just there and it's not.
- 1:54:40Long. It doesn't hold on and age.
- 1:54:42It's just just that moment where you just feel that sense of
- 1:54:44dread and that's in the score. And it's not massively obvious,
- 1:54:48but it's there. And there's the moment when
- 1:54:50Potter gets the money. It's almost playful, but it's
- 1:54:53Joker esque and it's it's kind of sickly.
- 1:54:57It's like Potter's excitement, which is like this horrible
- 1:54:59negative tingle, which is in the score.
- 1:55:02And he does that throughout the film.
- 1:55:04I think he just really addresses the emotion of the scenes
- 1:55:07without the being an overlying org or an overlying score, let's
- 1:55:11say. But I mean, if you if you
- 1:55:12actually listen to It's a Wonderful Life, there's a lot of
- 1:55:14music in there. But Luke's right.
- 1:55:17It's just he knows when they put it in the background, when to
- 1:55:19pull it forward. Yeah, very much yeah.
- 1:55:21He does, I agree. I think you kind.
- 1:55:23Of don't really notice the score.
- 1:55:24And I mean that as a compliment. It's woven in so well.
- 1:55:27It just feels natural. Yeah, definitely.
- 1:55:28I think that's extra impressive because it has to match the tone
- 1:55:31shift the film goes through. The early Bedford Falls scenes
- 1:55:34are very like Americana, very Norman Rockwell.
- 1:55:37Yeah, yeah. I can't believe we don't see
- 1:55:38apple pie at some point. And the music matches all that.
- 1:55:42And then by the end in Pottersville, it's a lot darker
- 1:55:44and the music goes with it. It is kind of film noir like in
- 1:55:47those scenes. And we're mentioning Buffalo
- 1:55:49Girls, but similar with Auld Lang Syne at the end, the whole
- 1:55:52town building it out together. Ridiculous but brilliant,
- 1:55:56obviously. I do wonder how much that was
- 1:55:58influenced by the Lamar Sier scene in Casablanca.
- 1:56:01I mean, not as aggressive here, but not long after it and just
- 1:56:04as famous. Yeah.
- 1:56:05But I think what Tiumpkin got is something maybe some audiences
- 1:56:08at the time didn't, which is that as a film, it's funny, but
- 1:56:11it's not just, it's just a comedy.
- 1:56:12It's dark and serious, but it's not just a drama.
- 1:56:15It's kind of something in between, a fantasy at times.
- 1:56:19And the score has to hold all that together, which I think it
- 1:56:21does. And Chunk went on to become a
- 1:56:23bit of a legendary composer in Western.
- 1:56:25So this probably isn't his most famous music, but I think he's a
- 1:56:28bit of an unsung hero here. As to why the film works as well
- 1:56:31as it does. Yeah, definitely.
- 1:56:33There's a. Ridiculous.
- 1:56:34Amount of variety in the score? Yeah, there is.
- 1:56:36I mean, I know. He didn't write a Buffalo.
- 1:56:38Gals as an absolute banger, isn't it?
- 1:56:41It's a tuning of that. Absolutely, yeah.
- 1:56:43Absolutely love that coming in for me.
- 1:56:45It's what we talked about on our last episode, 12 Angry Men.
- 1:56:48It's a different era for music and soundtracks.
- 1:56:50And like I said then, unless you Hitchcock working with Bernard
- 1:56:53Herrmann on actual musical or it's gone with the wind where
- 1:56:56you need a huge overture, it's just about accentuating tons and
- 1:57:00scenes. So the real stand out for me is
- 1:57:02when George makes out run back to the bridge in Pottersville,
- 1:57:05and you just get this, like, quiet sweeping in and up on the
- 1:57:09soundtrack behind him with this brass band behind, which does
- 1:57:12sound very Christmassy, but it's not in a, like, a sweet, sugary
- 1:57:16way. There's a melancholy to it.
- 1:57:18Yeah. And it's really impactful at
- 1:57:19that moment. So, yeah, the kind of sound rack
- 1:57:22where we don't really view it as we view, like, common sound
- 1:57:25racks a day. But it's one where when the
- 1:57:26music hits, it really, really hits.
- 1:57:29Yeah, that moment on the bridge at the end.
- 1:57:31The music was really, really dark.
- 1:57:32It's not like a tune. It's kind of just a mood.
- 1:57:35It's really, really good. Yeah, I think it mixes perfectly
- 1:57:38with. The sound design as well, I
- 1:57:39think the sound design on this film deserves a shout because
- 1:57:41that's absolutely insane. Like Pottersville and as a sound
- 1:57:44landscape is horrible. You've got the steak, people
- 1:57:48screaming and sirens, and then that music over the top and
- 1:57:50everything else just totally works together.
- 1:57:52And how quiet Bedford Falls is, but you can hear that snow
- 1:57:56somehow you can't. Yeah, all about the sound
- 1:57:58design. On this films.
- 1:57:59Incredible. Tiumpkin and Capra had an.
- 1:58:02Existent long term relationship, but that didn't stop Capra
- 1:58:05replacing some of his music to make enemies left, right and
- 1:58:08centre. Capra wasn't.
- 1:58:10Keen on some of the. Cues, Tiumpkin came up with, so
- 1:58:13replace them with stop music from the Archaeo library and the
- 1:58:16finale as the townspeople pour into the Bailey house.
- 1:58:19Tiumpkin had used Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, but Capra
- 1:58:22replaced it with Hallelujah from The Hunchback of Notre Dame and
- 1:58:25Archaeo film from 1939. Just does what he wants, doesn't
- 1:58:29he? Yeah.
- 1:58:29Yeah, I'm Frank Capra. I'll do what I want.
- 1:58:31Yeah. Exactly.
- 1:58:32Some melodies by Frank Capra. Well, we're into that couple of
- 1:58:37pieces of. Tumkin composed for the Gower
- 1:58:39drugstore sequence and Capra just ditched the music
- 1:58:42completely but didn't bother to tell Tumkin right Kubrick.
- 1:58:46Yeah. Although I do enjoy the names of
- 1:58:49those pieces. One was called Gawas Deliverance
- 1:58:52and the other was called the Death Telegram.
- 1:58:54Merry Christmas, Death Telegram right on my street that.
- 1:58:58Jingle Bells in a minor half time T.
- 1:59:03Anthem is furious as we can. Imagine about all the cuts.
- 1:59:06His autobiography was published in 1959.
- 1:59:08It was called Please Don't Hate Me because when he gave feedback
- 1:59:11to a director, Tiangkin had a reputation of starting with
- 1:59:14Please Don't Hate Me, but great in that book, Tiangkin.
- 1:59:18Praised. Capra for giving him his break
- 1:59:20in Hollywood, but criticized the music and It's a Wonderful Life,
- 1:59:23calling it a scissors job. Tell you what, For all the peace
- 1:59:26on earth. Goodwill to all men.
- 1:59:27Message of It's a Wonderful Life, Capra.
- 1:59:29Sure, I went over his way to piss everybody off when he was
- 1:59:31making it. He did slap in the ears.
- 1:59:34Left, right and centre. No Oscar nominations for Dimitri
- 1:59:36Chomkin. And it's a Wonderful Life.
- 1:59:38But he carried on having quite the career after it and scored
- 1:59:40some classic films, High Noon, Giant, The Guns of Navarone, Rio
- 1:59:44Bravo or feature music composed by Dimitri Chomkin.
- 1:59:48And he went on to win three Oscars and be nominated for 14.
- 1:59:52Wow. He might be the greatest
- 1:59:54Hollywood composer that almost no one's ever heard of.
- 1:59:57Yeah, don't hate me. But.
- 1:59:59I'll get you an Oscar. Leaving the music, we're now
- 2:00:05moving to the. Visuals and the cinematography
- 2:00:07of It's a Wonderful Life. The credit of the direct of the
- 2:00:09photography on the film are Joseph Walker and Joseph Berok.
- 2:00:13Joseph Walker had been Capra's go to guy to this point and
- 2:00:16they'd work together on 20 films.
- 2:00:18Joseph Berok only had two features under his belt before
- 2:00:21this one. So before we explain why the
- 2:00:24film has two credit of the DPS, what do we think of how It's a
- 2:00:27Wonderful Life looks? I mean, it looks incredible.
- 2:00:31It still does. I mean, if you watch the 4K
- 2:00:33version of it, it's absolutely sublime.
- 2:00:35It's so clean, it's so crisp, it's so well lit, so well shot,
- 2:00:39and it has to be in black and white.
- 2:00:41Probably want to be favorite black and white films.
- 2:00:43It's just so well captured on that negative.
- 2:00:45It's just the light and it's just incredible.
- 2:00:47And normally if you're shooting black and white, you would need
- 2:00:49really hard light for it to work for it to get the contrast
- 2:00:52ratio. So your blacks are black, your
- 2:00:54whites are white, and you've got no kind of balance in the
- 2:00:56middle. This film has the same contrast
- 2:00:58ratio across the whole thing, but at the same time they're
- 2:01:03using different light sources to have different emotions.
- 2:01:06So just like was spoke about with John King's music, if you
- 2:01:08look at the cinematography here, so as an example, we've got soft
- 2:01:12light with low contrast, but the contrast ratio stays the same.
- 2:01:17So you have the same amount of light and shadow.
- 2:01:19Basically. That's Mary's mother's house,
- 2:01:21right? So it's a very nice low contrast
- 2:01:23situation, hard light, soft contrast.
- 2:01:26That's the building and loan, so it's hard lit.
- 2:01:28So there's a seriousness to it. Soft light, hard contrast.
- 2:01:32That's after they've come out of the water and seven Clarence and
- 2:01:35the dry and all the clothes. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a soft
- 2:01:37light, but a. Hard contrast.
- 2:01:39So you just see that there's something serious going on
- 2:01:41there, but it's a soft tone of character with Clarence.
- 2:01:43And then you've got hard light, hard contrast, which is when
- 2:01:46they get into 320 Sycamore, it's been abandoned.
- 2:01:49They're all backlit. So it's basically just
- 2:01:52highlighting the emotion by using tone and using black and
- 2:01:55white. It was never ever going to be
- 2:01:57shot in colour. Joseph Walker later said the
- 2:01:59Capra's plan was to always shoot this film in black and white.
- 2:02:01He wanted to portrait with visual poetry through shadows
- 2:02:04and light and that's exactly what he does with all of them
- 2:02:07scenes, but uses different shadows in different light and
- 2:02:10it still looks the same all the way through.
- 2:02:12Brilliant. The black and white does give it
- 2:02:13a timeless. Quality.
- 2:02:14I think absolutely, yeah, I think the cinematography.
- 2:02:17Is really modern looking. And the freeze frame you
- 2:02:19mentioned earlier on, How cool is that?
- 2:02:21Oh yeah, they're using kind of state.
- 2:02:23Of the art lenses here, these are really sharp and just
- 2:02:25really, really shows on the negative.
- 2:02:27Yeah, I just think it really pops.
- 2:02:29Off the screen and the look of the film, of course, from the
- 2:02:31likeness of Bedford Falls to Pottersville, where it just
- 2:02:35becomes film noir and then actually horror at the end.
- 2:02:37Like that seeded Harry's grave. That could come from a Universal
- 2:02:41horror film at the time. You know, the kind of
- 2:02:43Frankenstein and Dracula films. Yeah, a hand cook about the
- 2:02:46grave. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:02:48And I think like those shots of the Churn and River where George
- 2:02:52is contemplating suicide, they are so bleak and terrifying.
- 2:02:55But you can feel like the icy chill, just, like, coming out of
- 2:02:59the screen because they're so well shot.
- 2:03:01And what struck me as well is just all the really great use of
- 2:03:04close up, particularly on James Stewart.
- 2:03:06I mean, we've mentioned them already.
- 2:03:07But, you know, when he's argued with Potter in the boardroom and
- 2:03:10he goes to leave but they say, no, we'll vote against Potter if
- 2:03:13you stay. And it's that huge close up on
- 2:03:15Stewart's anguished face. He realizes what that means.
- 2:03:18The scene at the bar when he prays that one, when he comes
- 2:03:21out of Mark Bailey's house and he gets right up to that camera
- 2:03:24and he practically stares down it in horror, is everything
- 2:03:28that's hitting him. It's incredible stuff.
- 2:03:31See, I mean, there's multiple. DPS on the film.
- 2:03:33But I don't think you can tell to watch it.
- 2:03:34Not in a bad way, anyway. It all feels and looks as one
- 2:03:37piece. And I think it's just superbly
- 2:03:39shot. Yeah, well, with notice about
- 2:03:41the cinematography is how intimate it feels.
- 2:03:44We're right there at the Bailey table during family dinners.
- 2:03:47We're pressed up close as hell during that kiss scene.
- 2:03:50I feel nearly as left out. With Sam Wainwright, you're
- 2:03:54more. Involved than Sam Wainwright and
- 2:03:57those shots are George on the bridge where he's going to end.
- 2:03:59It all we're right there with him then as well, but they can
- 2:04:01then pull back and give us these stunning establishing shots.
- 2:04:04Bedford Falls is pretty much a character in the film and the
- 2:04:07wide shots we get at the Main Street are fantastic.
- 2:04:11I think Capra was showing off a. Set Yard.
- 2:04:12Build as well, which we'll talk about.
- 2:04:15But one of the most impressive things I think is the contrast
- 2:04:17between Bedford Falls and Pottersville is brilliantly
- 2:04:20handled. Visually, Bedford Falls is all
- 2:04:22soft and warm. It feels and looks like a very
- 2:04:25safe place. Pottersville is much more harsh,
- 2:04:27shadows and neon lights, clearly no influence to gain.
- 2:04:31It's the same set, but it doesn't look like it or feel
- 2:04:33like it. And my favorite shot in the film
- 2:04:35does come in the Pottersville sequence.
- 2:04:37After George leaves Mar Bailey's boarding house and he runs
- 2:04:39towards the camera. We get that super close, close
- 2:04:41up of his face, and he looks around the place.
- 2:04:43You look right into the camera. Yeah, that shot is incredible.
- 2:04:47I mean, that's just one moment of many.
- 2:04:49I think it's a great visual storytelling all the way
- 2:04:51through. It would have been amazing if
- 2:04:53Pottersville was in. Color like Wizard of Oz?
- 2:04:55Yeah, Yeah, with all the neons. And then it went back to black.
- 2:04:58And White when he's back again. That would have been cool.
- 2:05:00Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:05:00Like Death Proof? What I find incredible here is
- 2:05:06that one. Of the DPS Joseph Barack, he
- 2:05:09shot airplane Yeah in 19. 80. From Bedford Falls to Don't Call
- 2:05:15Me Shirley. Unbelievable.
- 2:05:17Yeah, but I. Echo a lot.
- 2:05:19Of the things that. You fellas were saying the
- 2:05:21cinematography is outstanding. 2 distinct worlds that are created
- 2:05:26here. The warmth of Bedford.
- 2:05:28Falls the. Noir of Pottersville.
- 2:05:31When George enters that alternate reality, you feel it
- 2:05:33before anybody says a word because the lightning tells you
- 2:05:36that something's really wrong, like you were saying, Westie.
- 2:05:39And what I really like is how they shoot the domestic scenes.
- 2:05:42There's an intimacy to that Bailey household.
- 2:05:44It feels lived in. It feels dirty, for want of a
- 2:05:47better word. It's real, it's cluttered, the
- 2:05:50camera doesn't keep its distance and it's right there with the
- 2:05:52family. And then you've got those big
- 2:05:55set pieces, the dance floor open in the swimming pool, the snowy
- 2:05:58streets of Bedford Falls. They handle scale and in the sea
- 2:06:01equally well, which really isn't easy.
- 2:06:03I think it's classical Hollywood craftsmanship, nothing showy,
- 2:06:07everything in service of the story itself.
- 2:06:09You've just said there, that was really interesting.
- 2:06:11When? You said the warmth of Bedford
- 2:06:13Falls. It's nearly impossible to shoot
- 2:06:15warmth in black and white. That's crazy.
- 2:06:17Yeah. So I said before that there are
- 2:06:20two. Credited directors of
- 2:06:21photography and It's a Wonderful Life.
- 2:06:23I also said we'd tell the story of why that is, and we're about
- 2:06:26to now on your mat. I am indeed.
- 2:06:30So. There's actually three DPS that
- 2:06:33worked on the film. First of all, Capra Hyde, a
- 2:06:35cinematographer called Victor Milner.
- 2:06:37And he'd won an Oscar in 1934 for Cleopatra.
- 2:06:41But Capra just wasn't happy with how the film was looking.
- 2:06:44This is outrageous. When Milner got ill after a few
- 2:06:47weeks, Kappa took the chance to fire him and almost everything
- 2:06:51that Milner filmed was reshot. Wow.
- 2:06:54Get well soon. I mean if you did clear.
- 2:06:55Patra, it's going to. Be huge.
- 2:06:57Isn't it in scale? Like yeah, reshot everything.
- 2:07:00Ridley Scott Capra's like. Every.
- 2:07:04Demanding Director. Ever rolled into one like
- 2:07:06nightmare package in this one production?
- 2:07:09Yeah. In Victor Mill now, he'd worked.
- 2:07:10With Cecil B De Mille several times and apparently he was very
- 2:07:13meticulous, as you might expect. Capra just took it as being slow
- 2:07:16and pretentious. So get out, get out.
- 2:07:20So. Capra then turned to his
- 2:07:22trusted. Collaborator Joseph Walker, They
- 2:07:24had worked together 20 times, like we said, including Mr.
- 2:07:27Deeds goes to town, You can't take it with you, and Mr. Smith
- 2:07:29goes to Washington. They managed to get Walker on a
- 2:07:32loan from Columbia Pictures, but midway through the shoot,
- 2:07:35Columbia demanded Walker returned to finish a film for
- 2:07:37them. Yeah, some reports say that.
- 2:07:39Capran Walker had a disagreement on how to shoot 1 scene so Capra
- 2:07:43fired him. Surely even Capra wouldn't do
- 2:07:46that after working together for so long and maybe don't know.
- 2:07:50But yeah, I mean, I don't think so.
- 2:07:52But before Walker. Left the production.
- 2:07:54He trained one of his chief camera operators, Joseph Barack,
- 2:07:57so he could take over from him. Now, it's not documented who
- 2:08:01exactly shot what, but Walker shot most of the film, set the
- 2:08:04film styles, and then Barack took over.
- 2:08:07And it's likely that Barack shot most of the Pottersville
- 2:08:09sequence because that was scheduled for later in the
- 2:08:12shoot. Great, right?
- 2:08:14So Joseph Barack was a. Filmmaker World.
- 2:08:16War 2 veteran like Capra. Apparently he was the first
- 2:08:19American cameraman to film the liberation of Paris in August
- 2:08:221944. Wow.
- 2:08:24So when you see that footage, it's pretty famous footage.
- 2:08:27It's probably the guy who shot It's a Wonderful Life behind the
- 2:08:29camera, which is a bit mad. And airplane and airplane.
- 2:08:34And Blazing Saddles. I.
- 2:08:35Blazing Saddles, Yeah. No word recognition.
- 2:08:39For the cinematography. And it's a wonderful life.
- 2:08:41Interestingly, after this film, Joseph Walker and Frank Capra
- 2:08:44never worked together again. So was there some truth in them
- 2:08:47falling out after all? Maybe.
- 2:08:49Who knows. But.
- 2:08:50On a happier. Note it did launch the career of
- 2:08:52Joseph Barack Blazing Saddles. He was Co DP on the Towering
- 2:08:55Inferno and yeah, airplane. There it is.
- 2:08:59Pick the wrong week to stop. Sniffing glue coming right at
- 2:09:03us. But whichever Joseph shot what?
- 2:09:07Scene. Some outstanding cinematography
- 2:09:09here. Yeah, no, yeah, that was Shadow
- 2:09:11of a doubt. So a.
- 2:09:11Lot to get through there, famous.
- 2:09:13Screenplay work from Francis Goodrich and Albert Haggert,
- 2:09:15although the fellow with Capra. Impressive stuff from composer
- 2:09:18Dmitri Tiomkin. He also a fellow with Capra and
- 2:09:22the fantastic DPS where nobody seems to know.
- 2:09:24Fellow with who? But in the end, it all turned
- 2:09:27out pretty wonderful somehow. Yeah, it did.
- 2:09:31That's why. It didn't get many Oscars.
- 2:09:32No one knew who to give, what do.
- 2:09:42Into the end of It's a Wonderful Life.
- 2:09:44And so far, we've had a lot of very engaging set up, building
- 2:09:47up to a big final act. And that's what we're going to
- 2:09:49talk about now. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:09:51The famous finale. Where Bedford Falls.
- 2:09:53Comes together to help. The Baileys is coming up, but
- 2:09:56before we get there, we've got Bedford Falls without George
- 2:09:59Pottersville and an Angel who wants his wings.
- 2:10:02Great. Iconic.
- 2:10:04So Christmas Eve, Bedford Falls and.
- 2:10:06All is well, but not for long. Thank you Uncle Billy on his way
- 2:10:11to deposit. The building and loans.
- 2:10:12Funds into the bank, Billy accidentally gives the $8000 to
- 2:10:16Potter, leading to George becoming a Christmas crackpot.
- 2:10:19Yeah. How is it going for USD?
- 2:10:22Oh Billy. Absolute clutch.
- 2:10:25God, it's. Just the playfulness here.
- 2:10:29Now, we've said that Thomas Mitchell is fantastic in this
- 2:10:32film and this is where he's absolutely fantastic because he
- 2:10:36plays it with such childlike Glee.
- 2:10:38When he's going in there, he's top of the world.
- 2:10:39Harry's coming back, he's got 8 grand to stick in the bank.
- 2:10:42Nothing can go wrong at all. Everything's just top notch and
- 2:10:48he's just has a Digger Potter now.
- 2:10:50That's completely out of character for him to do that
- 2:10:52because he feels like he's on top and that's the universe
- 2:10:55coming back around and saying, no, your place, there's no point
- 2:10:58because if you stalk the fire, you're going to get burnt.
- 2:11:00So stay out the way. Stay apart from it that you
- 2:11:03don't want any part of this. He tries to be and challenge
- 2:11:06Potter at his own game and fails immediately.
- 2:11:09And when he gives him that paper every single time, I'm like, no,
- 2:11:13don't give him that news for you, man.
- 2:11:15It's got the egg. Run in it.
- 2:11:16Jesus. And then the guy behind the
- 2:11:17counter search your Dick. He's like, try that finger.
- 2:11:24All had this this. Anxiety, this, panic this where
- 2:11:28you just check your pockets 8 times.
- 2:11:30The same pockets are the same, pants are the same coat.
- 2:11:33You go back to that same coat and you're like yeah you just
- 2:11:36say it's got to be there, it's got to be somewhere.
- 2:11:38Many players. That's so well that panic and
- 2:11:41that anxiety that comes across on the screen is just wonderful.
- 2:11:44I love how this is cross cut as well with George helping out
- 2:11:47Violet, but he doesn't have to. I know you'll get a job, I know
- 2:11:50you're going to be all right. But then when Uncle Billy goes
- 2:11:53into his office and George comes in and he's like, what's matter
- 2:11:55with you? Everything's fine.
- 2:11:59What's? The matter with you and it
- 2:12:01really needs to hit because if you don't feel this anxiety,
- 2:12:05it's the audience, you're not going to buy the end.
- 2:12:06You're not going to buy the fact that he falls apart.
- 2:12:09It absolutely smacks you all over and I'm so pleased it does
- 2:12:13because it really makes the end and sing it really does.
- 2:12:16He's too full of. Himself, Uncle Billy.
- 2:12:18Showing part of the paper with Harry Bailey, war hero, on it,
- 2:12:21rubbing it in. He feels like he's won at that
- 2:12:23point. It's Harper does.
- 2:12:25Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agonizing to watch.
- 2:12:27I mean to be fair. Billy's a total scanner brain,
- 2:12:29so it feels like it was a matter of time before something like
- 2:12:31this happened. String on his fingers.
- 2:12:33Don't give this guy $8000 on Christmas Eve.
- 2:12:36He's just going to go across the road though.
- 2:12:37I can get fucked. But Thomas Mitchell is really
- 2:12:42good. He's been a.
- 2:12:42Comedic foil to this point. But then you totally feel this
- 2:12:45complete panic. Yeah.
- 2:12:47What's happening? Oh, that's awful.
- 2:12:48Yeah. And the scene that follows.
- 2:12:49Where George loses it with. Billy at Billy's place.
- 2:12:52Yeah, how great that that's got one of the most devastating
- 2:12:55lines in the film where George is like one of us has gone to
- 2:12:57jail. Well, it's not going to be me
- 2:12:59massive. Stewart's delivery of that is
- 2:13:02ridiculous. Yeah.
- 2:13:03There's no humor at the end of. This when he leaves, he doesn't
- 2:13:06like go to the squirrel and say that goes for you too.
- 2:13:10It just leaves you. Empty.
- 2:13:11It does, but it's such a simple set up like a.
- 2:13:13Mistake. But it's the moment the entire
- 2:13:15theory that works from yeah. I think something Capra seemed
- 2:13:17to always understand in his films is that the best drama
- 2:13:20often comes from human errors rather than like, yeah, big
- 2:13:23conspiracies and stuff. And this is the perfect example.
- 2:13:26Understandable errors as well. Everyone's.
- 2:13:28Done this. Yes, of course.
- 2:13:29Yeah, yeah, it's. Excruciating to watch.
- 2:13:31Even Billy's squirrel can't bear it.
- 2:13:35Then George comes home and. This is what I mean when I said
- 2:13:38Steel just mapped out the performance in the set because
- 2:13:41he's only given these hints at this anger inside him.
- 2:13:44But this scene is, it's that glacier.
- 2:13:46It's the pan of water finally boiling over.
- 2:13:49And this whole sequence is so difficult to watch because,
- 2:13:52like, when he sits down with his youngest and he just starts
- 2:13:54quietly crying to himself as the kids, putting tinsel in the
- 2:13:58sand, trying to play with them. Yeah.
- 2:14:00When I watched this for the first time, I've vividly
- 2:14:02remembered to sitting there going, I don't like where this
- 2:14:05is going. This is supposed to be a happy
- 2:14:06film. What's going on now?
- 2:14:07Don't like this? Don't like this?
- 2:14:09This isn't. Cool.
- 2:14:11But. It just gets worse and it.
- 2:14:12Escalates when he's kicking the chair around the kitchen, but he
- 2:14:15he's pulling back on it slightly, like he's trying to
- 2:14:18restrain himself. I don't even think he knows what
- 2:14:21he's saying at this stage. So, you know, why do we have to
- 2:14:23have all these kids? They're right there in front of
- 2:14:25them. But he can't keep it in anymore
- 2:14:27and he's fractured. But when he finally loses it and
- 2:14:30he smashes that room up and you realise what he's laying into
- 2:14:33with his kicks and his punches, they are all his plans and
- 2:14:36models. He's still building stuff, he
- 2:14:38still has dreams, but they've literally been pushed into the
- 2:14:41tiniest corner in the room because the family's taken over
- 2:14:44everything else in the house and that's all that's left.
- 2:14:47His dream. It's brilliant visual
- 2:14:48storytelling. And then when he turns around to
- 2:14:51face his family and he realizes what he's done, that expression
- 2:14:55on his face is just utter horror.
- 2:14:58He's unrecognizable in the moment.
- 2:15:00He doesn't look like Jimmy Stewart.
- 2:15:01No, it's like a Jekyll and high thing.
- 2:15:03And you can hear a pin drop in that moment.
- 2:15:06It's it's terrifying. Genuinely.
- 2:15:08It is very dark. Yeah.
- 2:15:10I mean. There's a monster here, isn't
- 2:15:11he? Smashing things up.
- 2:15:12Yeah. Why do we have to have all these
- 2:15:14kids? It's one of the most horrendous
- 2:15:15lines in cinema. Yeah, yeah, It's unbelievable.
- 2:15:19My parents always laughed at that though.
- 2:15:25That explains a lot. Like.
- 2:15:28Yeah, you little bastard, but you don't need any dialogue in
- 2:15:32this. Scene It's all in Stuart's
- 2:15:33physical performance. When he grabs a hold of Tommy so
- 2:15:36tight with tears in his eyes. We know the way he's carrying
- 2:15:40the potential implications of Uncle Billy's actions.
- 2:15:42Billy bullshit. And one look at George and Mary
- 2:15:46can see that too. It's devastating stuff.
- 2:15:48Yeah, it is. I think it's the hardest.
- 2:15:50Scene in the film. To watch it really is, yeah, I
- 2:15:52think it's incredible. Because obviously when?
- 2:15:54George snaps and starts trashing the living room.
- 2:15:56It's horrible, but the build up of that where he's walking
- 2:15:58around the house just being a right miserable sword, There's
- 2:16:01loads of humor in that. Yeah.
- 2:16:03Tommy, his little son, following him around going excuse me, I
- 2:16:06burped. Always makes me laugh.
- 2:16:08Brilliant. George on the phone.
- 2:16:10There's usually was teacher going absolutely crazy on
- 2:16:13Christmas Eve. Yeah, I'll.
- 2:16:15String her up, threatening to punch Mr. Walsh's lights out.
- 2:16:20I mean, that didn't work out, did it?
- 2:16:23Not really. But the tone balancing is
- 2:16:25incredible. Yeah.
- 2:16:26George, Dear Samaria White Raft have all these kids.
- 2:16:28A horrific line. It's kind of funny as well at
- 2:16:31the same time. Yeah, I think it's Stuart.
- 2:16:33He's so good. He can skate all these lines.
- 2:16:36Yeah. And he's superb all the way.
- 2:16:37Through this sequence. If I'm picking 1 scene of his, I
- 2:16:40might go for this one. Then again I might not.
- 2:16:43He's like good. Yeah.
- 2:16:45So after his spectacular. Dressing down from Potter,
- 2:16:48George. Transit sorrows in Martinis.
- 2:16:51There's a lovely bit of juxtaposition here.
- 2:16:53The establishing shot at the bar looks so inviting from outside,
- 2:16:56wonderful music playing. But then we go inside and George
- 2:16:58is beyond despair, completely agitated, looking for anything
- 2:17:03to take his pain away. And you can feel that pain.
- 2:17:06The moment when he's praying is really telling.
- 2:17:08I'm sure that when things have gotten so desperate for people
- 2:17:11watching, maybe that they may have turned to a higher power to
- 2:17:14save them when they might not necessarily have done in the
- 2:17:17past. And that's what George does
- 2:17:19here. He's not a praying man.
- 2:17:21But he's got absolutely nowhere else to turn.
- 2:17:24It's incredibly powerful stuff. But then to make matters worse,
- 2:17:28Mr. Welsh, who I don't know what he's doing here on Christmas
- 2:17:31Eve, why isn't he with his wife? That's weird.
- 2:17:33He's been crying for an hour. Yeah, he was with his wife and
- 2:17:36he just left. How wonderful you deal with
- 2:17:38that. I'm going to the pub.
- 2:17:40Sick about crying and he catches Georgia Butte right in the mush.
- 2:17:47Yeah, when, George. Starts to pray, How good.
- 2:17:48Steve, are they? This is the guy who was.
- 2:17:51Loving. Down the street like.
- 2:17:52Goofy an hour ago, now completely by him as being on
- 2:17:56the brink, but the scene just before this is when George goes
- 2:17:59to Potters to beg him to bail him out and Potter just refuses.
- 2:18:02Awful. I'm not sure there's another
- 2:18:04scene anyway where I despise the villain as much as I do Potter
- 2:18:07in that moment. He's horrible.
- 2:18:08It's a total dishonesty. He's got the.
- 2:18:11Money and he's going to let this Goodman go to jail to make
- 2:18:14himself even richer and if he knows as well the way that
- 2:18:17scenes framed because George is still sitting on the floor
- 2:18:20basically but Potters looming over him and over Potter
- 2:18:23shoulder there's a bust of Napoleon.
- 2:18:25It also seems to be looking down on George.
- 2:18:27Great. Like 2 dictators like bearing
- 2:18:29down on him. Yeah, it's great.
- 2:18:31And martinis, as well as some great.
- 2:18:33Foreshadowing for the end. I think Martini himself is
- 2:18:36absolutely fantastic when he's like, why you drink so much, my
- 2:18:38friend? Yeah, he's, oh, go home, Mr.
- 2:18:40Benny. He's just looking after him.
- 2:18:41Nick's looking after him. But after he gets hit by Wall,
- 2:18:44she goes, you've just hit my best friend.
- 2:18:45Best friend. That's the impact he has.
- 2:18:47Yeah, I'm sure Martini's got 8 grand in.
- 2:18:49The safe he's. Pulling that money in, surely.
- 2:18:54You might have. In the moment, in the bar where
- 2:18:56George is praying. The camera slowly pushes in on
- 2:18:59George as he talks. If you look closely, you'll see
- 2:19:01the close up with Stewart is a bit grainy and unfocused.
- 2:19:04That's because Capra didn't plan to shoot a close up.
- 2:19:06But Stewart was so good and portrayed so much desperation
- 2:19:09that Capra had the editor, William Hornbeck, blow up the
- 2:19:12shot and reframe it to zoom in. That's why the quality isn't as
- 2:19:15good. Yes, you all said that he was
- 2:19:17thinking. About all the loneliness and
- 2:19:19hopelessness of some people in the world, especially on the
- 2:19:21back of his experiences in the war.
- 2:19:23And he started crying for real filming it.
- 2:19:25Wow. And copyright filmed.
- 2:19:27There's a wide shot because he wasn't expecting it.
- 2:19:29So it's an incredible moment, isn't it?
- 2:19:31Yeah, it is. And then it's time for Clarence
- 2:19:33Odd Body to make his appearance. Angel Second class, played by
- 2:19:37Henry Travers. He's got the IQ of a rabbit,
- 2:19:40according to Joseph, which is harsh coming from a St.
- 2:19:44How was he in the film? Though.
- 2:19:45First class, that's what he is. I think.
- 2:19:49He's already got a presence. And a personality before we even
- 2:19:52see his face on account of this conversation with the big man.
- 2:19:54He's got a great voice. Yeah.
- 2:19:57And Travis? Brings such lovable charm.
- 2:19:59To Clarence, such warmth. He is the embodiment of a
- 2:20:02guardian Angel. He plays it so gentle, but he's
- 2:20:04not afraid to get dirty either when he's required to bite a
- 2:20:07policeman's wrist. And Henry Travers is from.
- 2:20:13Near our neck of the woods. He's from Preta, which is what,
- 2:20:16like 30 miles from us? Yeah, yeah.
- 2:20:18Northeast from the northeast, Yeah, yeah.
- 2:20:20Incredible. He's brilliant.
- 2:20:21When Joyce had clown from the water.
- 2:20:23George's dive in is like perfect.
- 2:20:25That's unbelievable, Tom Daley. But I love the scene in the.
- 2:20:29Cabin. Where?
- 2:20:30Clarence grants George's wish to arise him from existence.
- 2:20:33Kind of get Clarence's back story there as well.
- 2:20:35I like it when the night watchman fella says where do you
- 2:20:38come from? Heaven matter of fact.
- 2:20:42Yeah, just slowly walks out. It's.
- 2:20:44Great and Henry Travis had started as a.
- 2:20:47Stage actor and he became known in Hollywood for playing warm,
- 2:20:50bumbling older man. He'd been in some big films like
- 2:20:53The Invisible Man, the Claude Rains Classic and Shadow of a
- 2:20:56Doubt, the Hitchcock film, and Copper had actually passed
- 2:20:59Travis over for a while and you can't take it with you, but
- 2:21:02thought of him straight away for Clarence instead.
- 2:21:05Well, I'm glad he did, yes. But seeing the Watchmen?
- 2:21:08'S cabin you've got. Clarence, who has loads of
- 2:21:09comedy lines, talking to George, who was like, contemplating
- 2:21:12suicide. And I believe both of them.
- 2:21:14Yeah. And it's in the same scene.
- 2:21:16It's all, like, handled so well. It is.
- 2:21:19So Clarence is here. But as far as?
- 2:21:21Bedford Falls is concerned George is gone.
- 2:21:24Should we take a trip into Pottersville?
- 2:21:26Let's do it if we have to go on. Let's go.
- 2:21:31So George Bailey is no longer with us.
- 2:21:34Clarence has deleted them from history, so we now see what the
- 2:21:36world would have looked like without George.
- 2:21:38In one of the most famous sequences from the film, George
- 2:21:41returns to Bedford Falls, now called Pottersville, to find
- 2:21:44nobody knows who he is. I was all playing out for all
- 2:21:48devastating stuff. Yeah, but obviously he's never
- 2:21:51been. Born so he could do with a
- 2:21:52couple of stiff drinks. So it's back to Martini Slash
- 2:21:55Nix with his new best friend. I mean, Clarence could look more
- 2:21:59out of place at that bar. Yeah, asking for mulled wine.
- 2:22:06But he put his hands on Nick's like.
- 2:22:07Thank you my lovely man. Nick's unbelievable here that.
- 2:22:13Accent We serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get
- 2:22:16drunk fast. Is that clear?
- 2:22:17Do I have to slip in my left for a convincer to Clarence?
- 2:22:21Like a nice old man, but he has like.
- 2:22:24Given them your. Orders to get on the drinks menu
- 2:22:27as soon as possible. Come on now, things are
- 2:22:30beginning. To get a little odd and it's.
- 2:22:31Dawning on us, just like it is on George that this is actually
- 2:22:35real. Nick doesn't know who he is
- 2:22:37without judges existence. Mr. Gower poisons a kid and has
- 2:22:40spent time in the joint. The start of the tragedy and
- 2:22:42George's road back to redemption really hits with a bang.
- 2:22:46It does, I think what's great. About Pottersville.
- 2:22:48Is it's not just things are bad now it's really specific, like
- 2:22:52really personal CD, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, Mr. Gower wasn't
- 2:22:55saved by George. If he went to prison, he became
- 2:22:57an alcoholic. He lost everything.
- 2:22:58Yeah. And then he gets water sprayed
- 2:23:00in his face. I mean, even though Gower wasn't
- 2:23:01exactly nice to George earlier, it's still pretty sad seeing
- 2:23:04him, like, totally humiliated like that.
- 2:23:06Yeah. Mr. Cower.
- 2:23:09Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:23:11Yeah, so after this. George, he's doing the rounds.
- 2:23:13He's trying to find someone that recognizes him or something that
- 2:23:16he recognizes. So he's off to Bailey Park, but
- 2:23:19that's no longer there and it's Harry's grave instead.
- 2:23:22And I don't know if this is my favorite scene in the film, but
- 2:23:25Stephanie got my favorite line from the film.
- 2:23:27And I mentioned this in the Cinema Trophy, but this is
- 2:23:29basically a scene from a horror film.
- 2:23:31It is that whaling on the. Soundtrack the howl.
- 2:23:34And wind the black and white starkness of it all.
- 2:23:37And then obviously Harry's Graf, which just feels like a really
- 2:23:39big tip of the hat to A Christmas Carol when Scrooge
- 2:23:42sees his own grave. But it's the conversation
- 2:23:45between George and Clarence here when George refuses to believe
- 2:23:48Harry drowned as a kid. He went to war.
- 2:23:50He saved the lives of every man on that transport.
- 2:23:52And it's Clarence's reply. Every man on that transport
- 2:23:55died. Harry wasn't there to save them
- 2:23:57because you weren't there to save Harry.
- 2:23:59Like, I get goosebumps just thinking about that line, just
- 2:24:03thinking about the ramifications of George's actions.
- 2:24:06Like all those mothers without sons, children without fathers,
- 2:24:09because George wasn't around to do something when he was just 12
- 2:24:13years old. Yeah.
- 2:24:14And that's the point of the film.
- 2:24:16You can't know the ripple effect of you being in the world.
- 2:24:19You've just got to trust in it. Yeah.
- 2:24:20The delivery there as well. It's just it's like a child
- 2:24:24delivery man you can save. Them because you were there,
- 2:24:26save Harry. Come on, it's obvious, isn't it?
- 2:24:29Yeah, it's it's it's so well done.
- 2:24:30Yeah, yeah. The symmetry is the darkest
- 2:24:32moment. In the film, it is like a
- 2:24:34universal horror. You're right, man.
- 2:24:35It's all the mist. Yeah.
- 2:24:36Like half expecting lunch and you have someone to show up.
- 2:24:39Yeah. But in the kind of unspoken
- 2:24:42thing as. Well, is that, yeah, Bailey Park
- 2:24:43that George built, that no longer exists now as well?
- 2:24:47Yeah, one of. Many scenes.
- 2:24:49That highlights the impact that people have in other people's
- 2:24:52lives. Like you've been saying, it just
- 2:24:53makes you stop and think about your impact on others.
- 2:24:57Yeah. It does things that we just take
- 2:24:58for granted. Yeah.
- 2:24:59But I mean, this is taken directly from A Christmas Carol.
- 2:25:03Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:25:05Like we've been seeing the whole story is pretty much a carbon
- 2:25:09copy for It's a Wonderful Life. Yeah.
- 2:25:11And then Back to the Future too. Took.
- 2:25:13This pretty much exactly, Yeah, exactly.
- 2:25:15Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really.
- 2:25:17Interesting. It's Bailey Park.
- 2:25:18Is now a. Cemetery in that George wasn't
- 2:25:20there to build it up, instead it goes down.
- 2:25:22So it's the opposite of everything that he tried to do.
- 2:25:25Yeah. And he.
- 2:25:26Really now? Needs the one person who knows
- 2:25:29him better than he knows himself.
- 2:25:31And he needs to find Mary, because surely that is still.
- 2:25:34The same surely? Love prevails throughout all of
- 2:25:37this madness. She'll recognize him and he's
- 2:25:40just a wide eyed maniac at this point.
- 2:25:43She's just about. To close the library.
- 2:25:49He needs some kind. Of sense.
- 2:25:52He just needs to find himself again.
- 2:25:53He's completely lost and this is the last straw.
- 2:25:56The way this is played as well by Donna Reed is fantastic.
- 2:25:59She looks lonely, she looks miserable, she looks like she's
- 2:26:03lost her purpose, so that she never really had a purpose in
- 2:26:05life and that George was her purpose.
- 2:26:07She's Adrian from Rocky, isn't she?
- 2:26:09More or less. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she.
- 2:26:11Means she works in the library, so she's not really allowed to
- 2:26:13talk, but you get the feeling that she doesn't really know
- 2:26:15anyone or doesn't converse with anybody.
- 2:26:16Yeah, it has that sense of loneliness to this character, to
- 2:26:19be honest. He doesn't approach it very
- 2:26:21well. He's fucking terrifying.
- 2:26:22No grabbing a hold of it. She's like, it's absolutely
- 2:26:26insane there. She just runs away from him.
- 2:26:29But the thing that I get from this is not just Mary's
- 2:26:31reaction, it's everyone that he knows.
- 2:26:33When he goes into that bar and she runs into the back and hides
- 2:26:36herself, she's like, that's my wife.
- 2:26:38And she's like, this is just too much for everybody.
- 2:26:40But then he names everyone and it's a similar shot to what he's
- 2:26:43in the building alone and he's trying to convince them but
- 2:26:46everyone's looking at with such disdain and such hatred.
- 2:26:50And then birds outside starts shooting at him.
- 2:26:53What shots? Doesn't even aim, just.
- 2:26:58Bird straight on the gun like Al from.
- 2:27:00Diehard, you had a Is that going to be his excuse?
- 2:27:04But I mean, this to me is what hits home with George and hits
- 2:27:07home with me that he wanted to build things and he's built
- 2:27:11something that even he didn't see.
- 2:27:12He built something that's even more important than a bridge,
- 2:27:15more important than a building. He built a family and he built a
- 2:27:17relationship, and that has gone and he wants it back.
- 2:27:21Yeah. Mary is a lonely.
- 2:27:22Spinster should have had men queuing around the block for a
- 2:27:24Surely some would have been back on the scene, yeah?
- 2:27:28Don't I? Reed sells it.
- 2:27:28Though she's, like, unrecognizable.
- 2:27:30Is this Mary? She is.
- 2:27:31And there's a nice bit of foreshadowing before this as
- 2:27:33well. The scene in bed when Mary tells
- 2:27:35George she's pregnant. He says, why do you marry a guy
- 2:27:38like me? And she says to keep from being
- 2:27:39an old maid. Yeah.
- 2:27:41Which is kind of what she becomes.
- 2:27:42And to keep from marrying Sam Wainwright, obviously.
- 2:27:45Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:27:46Last, who's a stork? Yeah, he's had him on the nest.
- 2:27:50Mary's. Far too good for.
- 2:27:51All that he. Horse shit.
- 2:27:52Yeah, yeah, yeah. We see more of Bedford Falls.
- 2:27:56Slash pottersville in the final act here, and the set for the
- 2:27:59town was rather impressive. It was designed by Emil Curry,
- 2:28:04the set decorator, and overseen by Jack Okey, the art director.
- 2:28:07It was built over two months at Encino Ranch and at the time was
- 2:28:11one of the biggest sets that had ever been made with massive.
- 2:28:14It covered 4 acres including 75 stores and buildings, 20
- 2:28:17transplanted oak trees, a work and bank, amaze, a factory
- 2:28:21district, a residential and slum area which is insane.
- 2:28:27The Main Street was 300 yards long, the length of three city
- 2:28:30blocks and cats and dogs were allowed to roam the set to give
- 2:28:33it a lived in feel. Amazing.
- 2:28:36Did they ever use it for anything?
- 2:28:37Else to live in afterwards. I am just.
- 2:28:40Live in? Yeah, that's fine.
- 2:28:41Work and bank. That's unnecessary.
- 2:28:43What I said, one of the best. Well, it was adapted.
- 2:28:45From the set that IKEA would build for Cimarron like a
- 2:28:48western epic in 1931, right OK yeah yeah, but the only bad
- 2:28:51thing is that the. Raised the set in. 1954 that
- 2:28:53could have been a real money spinner.
- 2:28:55Christmas tours from the Bedford Falls set.
- 2:28:57Oh, good credit in the tour, yeah.
- 2:28:59I would just live there to be honest.
- 2:29:02And. As we know, the final act of
- 2:29:04the. Film all takes place on
- 2:29:05Christmas Eve and Bedford, Folsom, Pottersville are both
- 2:29:07covered in snow because of this. So to create the snow cap
- 2:29:11returned to the head of Archaeos effects team, Russell Sheeman,
- 2:29:14and they developed a new chemical snort made from
- 2:29:17formite, gypsum, ground ice water, soap flakes and sugar.
- 2:29:22Yeah. So at the time, snow in.
- 2:29:23Hollywood films are usually being created by painting
- 2:29:25cornflakes, whitening and dropping them onto the set,
- 2:29:28right? Well, that always needed loads
- 2:29:29of post production dubbing because of the sound of the
- 2:29:31cornflakes, like crunching under people's feet and cap.
- 2:29:34I wanted to record the dialogue live, so that's why the need of
- 2:29:37the different solution for this. Yeah, you can tell that
- 2:29:40dialogues recorded. Live as well, yeah, yeah,
- 2:29:42definitely. You can tell that's a.
- 2:29:44Solution as well. When he pulls Clarence out of
- 2:29:46the water, when he's swimming with him, when he's face, it's
- 2:29:49like coagulated on the face, isn't?
- 2:29:50It Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looks like when he slams his
- 2:29:52face. In the cake and misses
- 2:29:53Doubtfire. Dropping in the coffee, Yeah.
- 2:30:01It's a little Cupertino. And to create all the snow for
- 2:30:04the. Film They used 300 tons of
- 2:30:06shaved ice, 300 tons of gypsum, 300 tons of plaster and 6000
- 2:30:11gallons of formite soap and water, with huge wind machines
- 2:30:14blowing the mixture over the set to make it look like snowfall.
- 2:30:18And as we said, this replaced cornflakes as the Hollywood
- 2:30:20standard. And Shaman won a technical
- 2:30:22achievement Oscar forward, which is the only Oscar of the film.
- 2:30:25One. Yeah, I think the snowfall.
- 2:30:28Especially as it's falling around the streets.
- 2:30:30That looks really, really good. Yeah, it does.
- 2:30:32It looks realistic. Oh, looks amazing.
- 2:30:34It looks better than the. Snow in Home Alone, OH.
- 2:30:36Absolutely. Yeah.
- 2:30:37Yeah. But when he's.
- 2:30:38Running up the street, he's skidding in it.
- 2:30:39That feels like it's just laying down on the ground.
- 2:30:41Yeah, Frosty's not being better. Before we finish on
- 2:30:48Pottersville. We have our second DHRM patron
- 2:30:50question and it comes from Diane Jones.
- 2:30:53Hi, Dean. Hello, Dean.
- 2:30:55Hi, Dean. So Dean's asking.
- 2:30:57Where would you rather? Live Bedford Falls or
- 2:30:59Pottersville and why? I think Pottersville looks way
- 2:31:02more fun, says Deanne. Right.
- 2:31:05It definitely does. All those neon signs, one of
- 2:31:07them just says girls, girls, girls.
- 2:31:10Yeah, like. A Mötley Crüe song?
- 2:31:13Yeah. It's a Mötley Crüe album.
- 2:31:17So let's see what you're going for.
- 2:31:19I mean, I don't know, I'm really torn.
- 2:31:21To be honest, I love Bedford Falls.
- 2:31:23I think the older I get I'm going to be in Bedford Falls.
- 2:31:26To be honest, when I was a young man, maybe Pottersville, but I
- 2:31:29would like to kind of cheat a little bit and say Bedford Falls
- 2:31:33up until about half 7 and then go through Pottersville.
- 2:31:36That's. What I would enjoy but if.
- 2:31:40I have to choose 100% Bedford Falls.
- 2:31:44It doesn't look more. Fun though everyone is.
- 2:31:45Miserable in Pottersville. And like, the point is, it's not
- 2:31:49about whether it looks fun or not.
- 2:31:50The point is the film is about George, and this isn't George's
- 2:31:52hometown anymore. Like everything he's worked for,
- 2:31:55everything he's done to protect it from Potter is gone, and
- 2:31:58Potter's one. And that's why everyone's
- 2:32:00miserable in a place where someone like Potter reels the
- 2:32:02roost. That's not that's not where I
- 2:32:04want to go. I'm just saying it's a gaudy,
- 2:32:06loud neo nightmare. And I already live and see him.
- 2:32:09So it's Bedford Faults for me. Deep cut.
- 2:32:14Deep cut, yeah. Neon Gordie Nightmare.
- 2:32:17Get it? In there, midnight dancing,
- 2:32:21cocktails, bars, fights every Wednesday night, Yeah.
- 2:32:27The glitz and the glam was. Not to love.
- 2:32:29I mean, it does look like a lot of fun, but I think you could
- 2:32:32get in a farm. Far too much trouble in
- 2:32:34Pottersville. One wrong word in to the wrong
- 2:32:37person. You're picking up your teeth
- 2:32:38with a broken arm for certain. Getting pot shots that you're
- 2:32:41from bed. Yeah.
- 2:32:42Yeah, definitely, yeah. I think it's like.
- 2:32:44Vegas. Great for a week.
- 2:32:45Of debauchery but it's absolutely unsustainable to live
- 2:32:48there so I'm going with Bedford Falls yeah another influence on
- 2:32:52back of the. Future as well Pottersville and
- 2:32:54when Biff takes over definitely but.
- 2:32:56Biffsville basically is Niffsville.
- 2:32:58Yeah. Yeah.
- 2:32:58Well, I think Bedford Falls is like Hill Valley, isn't it?
- 2:33:01It is, Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 2:33:02Yeah. Nice.
- 2:33:04So that is Pottersville. We've been through the.
- 2:33:05Nightmare Before Christmas. So I think we deserve the joyous
- 2:33:08aftermath, don't we? Oh, let's do it.
- 2:33:11Thank goodness. The closing minutes if it's a
- 2:33:15wonderful. Life or a festive feast.
- 2:33:18Clarence reverses George's wish, putting him back into existence
- 2:33:21and unbridled joy breaks loose. We see George running through
- 2:33:25Bedford Falls wishing everyone and everything Merry Christmas,
- 2:33:28Clarence getting his much deserved wings and the people of
- 2:33:31the town coming together to help the Bailey's.
- 2:33:33Yes, try and keep it together. Matt, what do you think of this?
- 2:33:37I can do it. I can do it.
- 2:33:38I can do it. Come on man.
- 2:33:41Get mad to go first. Great idea.
- 2:33:44Here we go. Come on, do it.
- 2:33:47If you look it up, the. Actual dictionary definition of
- 2:33:49joy is the last 10 minutes of It's a Wonderful Life.
- 2:33:56When he's back on that bridge, the.
- 2:33:57Timing is so perfect. It's when he literally asks God
- 2:34:01to let him live again, with all the consequences that he knows
- 2:34:04he's going to face or he thinks he's going to face.
- 2:34:06That's when the snow starts to fall, and that's when you know
- 2:34:09it's not back. And Bert arrives.
- 2:34:12Bert knows him. Zeus, whose pedals are in his
- 2:34:14pocket. And then the tricky thing about
- 2:34:16talking about the ending for me is like everything from this
- 2:34:18moment on, it's just blurry because it's just tears.
- 2:34:21From now on, I've not actually seen properly the ending.
- 2:34:25George sprinting. Down that street is.
- 2:34:26So iconic. It's really funny when he bangs
- 2:34:29on Potter's window and he says like.
- 2:34:32Because Potter must be thinking so.
- 2:34:34He's not before. Like.
- 2:34:35What's going on? Yeah, yeah, he's going to jail.
- 2:34:38That he's going to kill. Himself last time.
- 2:34:39Also. But then it's the reunion and
- 2:34:42group hug to end all group hugs when George gets home and
- 2:34:46everyone is pouring into the house.
- 2:34:47But it comes down to two moments for me.
- 2:34:49The 1st is when Ernie reads out the telegram from Sam who says
- 2:34:52he's sending $25,000 to help George out.
- 2:34:56Because all throughout the film George has treated Sam quite
- 2:35:00shitty. He's never had a good thing to
- 2:35:02say about him, but there's a lovely touch from Suit when he
- 2:35:05he is this and he just bows his head ever so slightly, as if
- 2:35:08he's thinking I should have been a much better friend of Sam
- 2:35:11because I did not deserve this. And it's a really humbling
- 2:35:14moment for him. But then he would.
- 2:35:16It's the moment Harry's home, and it's that toast to my Big
- 2:35:20Brother George, the richest man in town.
- 2:35:22Boom, there it is. Niagara Falls.
- 2:35:28It's just unbelievable. It's.
- 2:35:31So so. Good because you feel exactly
- 2:35:35the way he feels. You are elated.
- 2:35:38Every single thing is just fine. There's not a problem.
- 2:35:42Everything's just wonderful and you know it's just Mary yet
- 2:35:45again saving the day that you would don't really realize.
- 2:35:49I mean basically she sets up the best Kickstarter I've ever seen
- 2:35:52in me like. Rallying around, she doesn't say
- 2:35:56we need money. She said he needs help and then
- 2:35:59just say, well, what does he need?
- 2:36:00It doesn't matter. It could have been anything, you
- 2:36:02know, but that it just happens to be money that he needs and
- 2:36:05that's fine. From Billy emptying that money
- 2:36:07out, I'm absolutely gone. Yeah, me too.
- 2:36:10From that moment on, it's. Just this.
- 2:36:12Absolute avalanche of joy. It's just this waterfall of
- 2:36:16overpowering human nature, and it's like purest form.
- 2:36:20And it's just, it's nicest form. It's just the way the world
- 2:36:23should be and it's not allowed to be.
- 2:36:25And it's just really gets to me that everybody loves this,
- 2:36:28everybody wants to feel like this, but you just can't quite
- 2:36:31get there. And it takes films like this to
- 2:36:33show that it's possible to feel like that.
- 2:36:35That toast from Harry, ah, the richest man in town.
- 2:36:38He's done it. He's beat pottery, he's won.
- 2:36:40He's absolutely won by not caring about himself or his
- 2:36:43whole life. He can go anywhere he wants now,
- 2:36:45do anything he wants. He's a success.
- 2:36:47The building alone is going to be fine.
- 2:36:49Everything's going to be OK. It's just a wonderful thing.
- 2:36:53And the my absolute favorite from this whole end. 7 minutes
- 2:36:57or so, Harry gets a telegram, Bird goes to pick him up from
- 2:37:00the airport. I got him here as quick as I
- 2:37:02could. He still has a chance to go home
- 2:37:04and get his fucking accordion. I love that.
- 2:37:08You've got to get Harry there, man 2.
- 2:37:10Seconds. This is going to kick off.
- 2:37:14I need this shit. It's not in the back of his.
- 2:37:17Cruiser do. You know what I mean?
- 2:37:18He's picked that up either on the way to the airport or on the
- 2:37:21way back to get Harry. Harry, 2 minutes, man, I know
- 2:37:23you're going to see your brother, but we're like, break
- 2:37:25this out of the party. His favorite film about the end
- 2:37:28gets me every time. Love it.
- 2:37:31Yeah. George Bailey running through
- 2:37:32the. Streets of Bedford Falls
- 2:37:33shouting Merry Christmas to everyone.
- 2:37:35Basically is Christmas to me. Yeah.
- 2:37:37One of the most beautiful things in any film.
- 2:37:39It's because of earned it. Two hours of back story, which
- 2:37:41is there to basically set up the final 10 minutes.
- 2:37:44Yeah. But that two hours is still so
- 2:37:45engaging in its own right. Yeah.
- 2:37:47So when this Combs, the feelings just go through the roof.
- 2:37:49Yeah. I look forward to all being shot
- 2:37:51as well as the differences in lighting that we talked about in
- 2:37:54Pottersville. George was filmed in all tight
- 2:37:56framing, loads of close-ups to make it all very restrictive.
- 2:37:59Claustrophobic, wasn't it? Yeah.
- 2:38:00Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
- 2:38:01And then back in Bedford. Falls.
- 2:38:02The cinematography completely changes.
- 2:38:04It's all wide shots, lots of open framing.
- 2:38:06The camera seems to move more fluidly, and that contrast works
- 2:38:09great. Yeah, and the Merry Christmases,
- 2:38:12Merry Christmas, Mr. Potter is great Pot almost think George is
- 2:38:16completely flipped at that point.
- 2:38:17Yeah, just mortal. He's been a martinis.
- 2:38:20Yeah. But my.
- 2:38:22Favorite Merry Christmas, you wonderful.
- 2:38:23Old building in loan. Yeah, yeah, get out.
- 2:38:27It's them tracking shots. As well when you get the shot of
- 2:38:29the building. That's going the same pace as he
- 2:38:31is. Brilliant.
- 2:38:32So the crosscuts per valley, Yeah, it's really great.
- 2:38:34Then that final scene, one of the most.
- 2:38:36Iconic final scenes in any movie.
- 2:38:38First of all, how nice is Mary? She comes in and she saves
- 2:38:41strangers in a house and she just goes, oh, hello, you're so
- 2:38:45welcoming starting. The rest warrant I'll just.
- 2:38:48Stick a chicken over the fire. Give us 5.
- 2:38:53And the narratives are all pulled together and wrapped.
- 2:38:54Up perfectly. We managed to get references to
- 2:38:56all the previous characters without it feeling crammed in.
- 2:38:59Sam Wainwright, you said, mentioned Tom shows back up.
- 2:39:02Great to see Annie back in there.
- 2:39:04Yeah, and obviously Harry. Coming back in.
- 2:39:06But the bit for me that gives me goosebumps and gets tears in me
- 2:39:09eyes is when he gets the book and the message from Clarence.
- 2:39:12That's a message from a very dear friend of mine.
- 2:39:15What you're doing. Yeah.
- 2:39:17Yeah. But George is all completes.
- 2:39:19Clarence gets his wings. The theme resolves itself when
- 2:39:21it turns out George was right to help people all the time.
- 2:39:24I mean, what more can you say? The greatest final scene of a
- 2:39:27Christmas film they'll ever be? Surely it's unbeatable.
- 2:39:30It's got to be. It's just that message as well.
- 2:39:32You've said it there from. Clarence, it's just unbelief.
- 2:39:35Just thanks for the wings. Yeah, I love that.
- 2:39:37Attaboy, Clarence. Attaboy, Clarence.
- 2:39:39And then the bell. Rings and then thanks for the
- 2:39:42wings. Imagine if it just cut a
- 2:39:44Clarence in KFC. Buffalo Wings, KFC.
- 2:39:52Mr. Trick there. That should be the.
- 2:39:53Advert every Christmas? Sure.
- 2:39:55Definitely. Clarence getting his wings?
- 2:39:58Yeah, definitely. I mean.
- 2:40:01What more is that I say that everybody hasn't said because we
- 2:40:04all this, this end sequence is just so effective.
- 2:40:08We all think the same thing, but this is what it's been gearing
- 2:40:11up to. This is what we're seeing about
- 2:40:13this ending is earned 100% because it's been misery on top
- 2:40:19of misery on top of despair on top of suicide.
- 2:40:22And then the snow comes back and such a weird is lifted.
- 2:40:27I mean, Elia doesn't even come interest George running like a
- 2:40:31madman through Bedford Falls screaming his head off crazy
- 2:40:37when he gets back home. It's probably my favorite final
- 2:40:40scene of any film. It never fails to slug me right
- 2:40:44in the good like we've been seeing.
- 2:40:46The image of George surrounded by Mary and the kids is
- 2:40:49wonderful enough, but when everybody in town begins to pour
- 2:40:53in, dump and money on the table, I mean, just getting goosebumps
- 2:40:57talking about it. I generally go to see this film
- 2:40:59at the cinema every year. You know, it's always playing
- 2:41:02around here. And I always dread this moment
- 2:41:05because it's guaranteed Niagara Falls, meaning credits roll and
- 2:41:09I have to walk out of the cinema with like a BLOB and mess.
- 2:41:13So I'm usually like, digging my nails into my hand or biting my
- 2:41:16hand. So to take away like the
- 2:41:18possibility of tease, like Clarence biting.
- 2:41:21Your own wrist, yeah. Joseph.
- 2:41:26It is a perfect end, that bit when.
- 2:41:28He takes the end of the banners known as.
- 2:41:29Kisses it, puts it back. Oh, it's great.
- 2:41:31Love for everything. Like that?
- 2:41:32Yeah, kids. But the one.
- 2:41:35Thread in the film that isn't. Tied up is that we never find
- 2:41:38out what happens to Potter for keeping the $8000 if anything
- 2:41:42actually does happen to him at all.
- 2:41:43And Hollywood films at the time was still operating under the
- 2:41:46hears court and that stated antagonists and movies must
- 2:41:49either be punished or repent for their actions, which Potter
- 2:41:52never does. Yeah, as far as we know what he
- 2:41:54makes off. With the $8000, yeah, I guess
- 2:41:57Capra didn't want to interrupt. The ending.
- 2:41:58By cutting away to another sequence with Potter or
- 2:42:01something like that? Yeah, wouldn't that wouldn't
- 2:42:03have worked. There's no.
- 2:42:03Way to put it, no. But the haze.
- 2:42:06Code. They did demand some changes to
- 2:42:08the script. Good.
- 2:42:09Richard Hackett had to remove some words.
- 2:42:11They had to take out. Jerk.
- 2:42:13Dang, impotent, lousy. I swear to God and nuts to you,
- 2:42:19they all have to go. I thought the last one was going
- 2:42:21to be motherfucker just from nowhere.
- 2:42:28Merry Christmas. Motherfucker, actually, at that
- 2:42:33moment, possibly. You could have done that way.
- 2:42:36He's Merry Christmas, Mr. Potter.
- 2:42:37And then the the money's there on the desk and he's he's
- 2:42:39assistant who pushes him around. Could have shaken his head, not
- 2:42:42said anything, just left the room.
- 2:42:43Yeah, Potter shouting after him and just left completely by
- 2:42:46himself. So I think you wouldn't know
- 2:42:47it's first time around as well wouldn't.
- 2:42:48It, which would be nice, yeah, just leaving the room, yeah.
- 2:42:51In an early script there is a scene.
- 2:42:53Where we see Potter approaching the Bailey house while the
- 2:42:55celebrations are ongoing, planning to return the $8000.
- 2:43:00And there was another plan scene where Clarence confronted Potter
- 2:43:02about stealing the 8 grand but in this end and Potter would get
- 2:43:05told he was going to hell and die after having a heart attack.
- 2:43:09But Capra decided this ending was a little too grim.
- 2:43:12Yeah, it is a bit. A little bit.
- 2:43:15Imagine the role that the house was safe or.
- 2:43:16Strapped to his wheelchair. I'm not interested in Europe.
- 2:43:23So. We're at the end.
- 2:43:24The narrative threads, aside from the pot I want, are all
- 2:43:27pulled together pretty expertly. To say their land is a bit of an
- 2:43:30understatement. And when you're talking famous
- 2:43:33movie moments, the whole final act and final scene of It's a
- 2:43:36Wonderful Life is about as big as it gets.
- 2:43:39The biggest Huge. Gargantuan.
- 2:43:45Reception and awards. It's a Wonderful life with a
- 2:43:50Stone Cold. Christmas classic nowadays, of
- 2:43:52course, but it wasn't always that way, was it?
- 2:43:55No, no, no. ATR.
- 2:43:57Amazonian. Jill.
- 2:43:58First Class is yet to fill us in on the reception of the film
- 2:44:00after it's released on December the 20th, 1946.
- 2:44:03So take it away please, Matt. Yep, just got me wings and
- 2:44:06everything. So budget was. $3.7 million.
- 2:44:11Which was very expensive for the time, but it made just 3.3
- 2:44:15million at the box office and left Capra half $1,000,000 in
- 2:44:18debt. It did well at the Oscars, all
- 2:44:20nominated for five best picture, best director, best actor for
- 2:44:23James Stewart, best from editing for William Hornbeck and best
- 2:44:27sound editing for John Ahlberg. And as we've said, Russell
- 2:44:30Sheeman and Archaeo's effects department won a special
- 2:44:33technical achievement award. Amazing.
- 2:44:36A bomb at the box. Office then.
- 2:44:38So Liberty had taken out a one and a half million dollar bank
- 2:44:40loan to pay for the film. So when it didn't make its money
- 2:44:42back, it put them in massive trouble and cap right as
- 2:44:45partners. The sole Liberty to Paramount
- 2:44:47Pictures in 1947, which is a real shame.
- 2:44:50Yeah, yeah. The film Bowman came.
- 2:44:53As a bit of a shock, Archaeo had moved the release date forward
- 2:44:56from January 47th to December 46th as they were so confident
- 2:45:00with the film. Just before the premier, Liberty
- 2:45:02Films held a private preview at the Ambassador Hotel in LA,
- 2:45:06attended by over 350 people, including Clark Gable, Gary
- 2:45:09Cooper and Claudette Colbert. Right.
- 2:45:11The audience reaction was so enthusiastic that fans mobbed
- 2:45:14the actors and the celebrities. Yeah, the police had to be
- 2:45:17called, apparently. To control the crowd.
- 2:45:19Incredible riding over George Bailey.
- 2:45:22But I mean, you might think it would be.
- 2:45:23The perfect time to. Release it like post war people
- 2:45:25looking for something comforting of course.
- 2:45:27Or maybe that's just what they were looking for at the time.
- 2:45:29I don't know. Maybe.
- 2:45:30Yeah, looks like it could have been the plans to release it in
- 2:45:32January. Is crazy.
- 2:45:34Yeah, that's insane. Ridiculous.
- 2:45:36I mean the. Critics were on board over with
- 2:45:37it. At the time, either Bosley
- 2:45:39Crowther, writing for the New York Times, said the weakness of
- 2:45:42this picture is the sentimentality of it.
- 2:45:45It's illusory concept of life. Mr. Capra's nice people are
- 2:45:48charming and his small town's a beguiling place, but somehow
- 2:45:51they don't resemble reality, right.
- 2:45:54OK, but Clarence doesn't? I'll give him that.
- 2:45:56Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I think, George.
- 2:45:59Is fairly complex. And grounded, though.
- 2:46:01Really grounded. Completely realistic, yeah.
- 2:46:04Yeah, 100%, yeah. And also at the time, Manny
- 2:46:06Farber wrote. In the New Republic, to make his
- 2:46:09points, Capra always takes an easy, simple minded path that
- 2:46:12doesn't give much credit to the intelligence of the audience.
- 2:46:15Wow. I'd say it does cut.
- 2:46:17Some corners and the. Storytelling, maybe, like George
- 2:46:20and Mary getting married in the same sequences that run on the
- 2:46:22bank. But it works for me.
- 2:46:24It doesn't feel convoluted. It's nothing easy in the film.
- 2:46:27I think it's just because it's. Simple it.
- 2:46:29Seems easy and the finisherman. Rog Roger Ebert, He reviewed
- 2:46:33It's a Wonderful Life in 1999. So over 50 years after it came
- 2:46:37out, what did he rated out of four?
- 2:46:39Do we think anything other than 4?
- 2:46:43Yeah, of course it was 4 stars. Out of four, to the surprise of
- 2:46:45nobody. And he said what's remarkable is
- 2:46:48how well it holds up over the years.
- 2:46:50It's one of those ageless movies, like Casablanca, that
- 2:46:53improves with age. So movies should only be seen
- 2:46:56once. Others can be viewed an
- 2:46:57indefinite number of times. They improve with familiarity.
- 2:47:01It's a Wonderful Life falls in the second category.
- 2:47:03Sure does. Too true, Rogers.
- 2:47:05Nailed it, yeah. Yeah, as always, nothing new
- 2:47:07there in 1947 the year. After the film came out, the FBI
- 2:47:12placed the film on their list of suspected communist propaganda.
- 2:47:16They issued a memo called And It's a Wonderful Life, a
- 2:47:18potential communist infiltration of the motion picture industry,
- 2:47:23that said that Potter was written as an attempt to
- 2:47:24discredit bankers, which according to them, was a common
- 2:47:28trick used by communists. Common trick?
- 2:47:31Always. Casting Lionel Barrymore,
- 2:47:32Scrooge type figures other these communists, bloody commies all
- 2:47:37that. Bankers are not a nice guy.
- 2:47:39Well, yeah, yeah. It's a Wonderful Life was a real
- 2:47:43Christmas. Turkey at the time, then, but
- 2:47:45that didn't last, did it? Nah, no, because after.
- 2:47:49Liberty Films was sold a Paramount It's a Wonderful Life
- 2:47:51sat gathering dust for years and then in 1974, due to an error,
- 2:47:56the copyright wasn't renewed properly and that led to the
- 2:47:59film passing into public domain and that means it was free for
- 2:48:02TV stations to broadcast. So it started being shown on
- 2:48:05television every Christmas. The status of the film grew and
- 2:48:08grew and then by the mid 80s it was a firm Christmas classic.
- 2:48:12And since then, after all the copyright issues were sorted
- 2:48:14out, NBC broadcast the film every Christmas Eve in the
- 2:48:18United States, and Channel 4 do the same in the UK.
- 2:48:21Wow. Yeah, and you watch it every.
- 2:48:22Year, right, Matt? Absolutely do.
- 2:48:25Yeah, yeah. So quite a story for.
- 2:48:27It's a wonderful life. Then off the screen as well as
- 2:48:29on a flop on release and pretty much forgotten for 30 years
- 2:48:32before mounting A comeback Rocky will be proud of.
- 2:48:35Absolutely became a must see movie and maybe the biggest
- 2:48:38Christmas classic of them all. It's definitely up there.
- 2:48:41That's. What it is I?
- 2:48:42Would agree. Sequels and influence There were
- 2:48:50never any sequels made to it's a.
- 2:48:51Wonderful Life, but there maybe could have been one.
- 2:48:55In 2013, two producers called Alan J Schwalb and Bob
- 2:48:58Farnsworth announced they would be continuing the tale in the
- 2:49:01sequel called It's a Wonderful Life.
- 2:49:04The rest of the story I didn't realize there was a rest.
- 2:49:07Of the story to be. Honest.
- 2:49:08No. That's got Hallmark written all
- 2:49:10over. It it really has.
- 2:49:13Yes, so the. Synopsis for the sequel is on.
- 2:49:15IMDb Do you want to hear it or not?
- 2:49:17Definitely OK. George Bailey's troubled
- 2:49:19grandson also named George Bailey, so not not cutting
- 2:49:23corners there is forever changed when his Aunt Zuzu, played again
- 2:49:27by Carolyn Grimes, comes back as an Angel and reveals how much
- 2:49:31better the world would have been if he had never been born right,
- 2:49:35Right. Sounds a bit depressing just.
- 2:49:37Go and kill yourself, George. Yeah, miserable.
- 2:49:40That's it. And never got.
- 2:49:41Far though. Paramount.
- 2:49:42Put the kibosh on it and they said no project relating to It's
- 2:49:44a Wonderful Life can proceed without a license from
- 2:49:47Paramount. Yeah.
- 2:49:48I mean, obviously a couple of absolute chances these guys.
- 2:49:53Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah.
- 2:49:55There been no sequels but both Jimmy.
- 2:49:56Stewart and Donna Reed reprise their roles of George and Mary
- 2:49:59more than once when they appeared in a few radio versions
- 2:50:02in the 40s and 50's, The Luxe Radio Theatre and Screen Guild
- 2:50:06Theatre both broadcast versions. You can find those broadcasts
- 2:50:09online, so search. For them, if you'd like to hear
- 2:50:11them, they're always good for getting into the Christmas
- 2:50:13spirit. Yeah, great.
- 2:50:14In terms of the legacy. Of It's a Wonderful Life.
- 2:50:16Then obviously a huge Christmas classic nowadays and a stable of
- 2:50:19the festive television schedule. How can we see its influence
- 2:50:22since 1946 though? I think any Christmas film.
- 2:50:27That has made since, yeah, has elements of it.
- 2:50:29And I mean, we've touched on so many references that we've just
- 2:50:32popped into our head as we've been talking about it, to be
- 2:50:34honest, over the last few hours. But anything that deals with the
- 2:50:38main characters redemption within a redemption arc with
- 2:50:40that kind of, you know, the search for truth, I guess, is
- 2:50:44always there. But I mean, the Bishop's Wife,
- 2:50:45which came out a year after this, I think that's got
- 2:50:49elements to it. Wings of Desires got elements to
- 2:50:51it. And then further up the road,
- 2:50:53you've got Groundhog Day, which I think has massive elements to
- 2:50:56it. Oh yeah.
- 2:50:57Yeah. And then I think.
- 2:50:58They tried to. Remake it.
- 2:50:59Well, in my opinion, they tried to remake it with Nicolas Cage
- 2:51:02and the family man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember
- 2:51:04that. It's just absolute testimony.
- 2:51:06To this original idea, the original script, the ACT and the
- 2:51:09technical prowess, everything, it just can't be duplicated.
- 2:51:13There's a lot of elements from this that have been taken or
- 2:51:15we've mentioned about the future.
- 2:51:16I've mentioned lots of other films, Grease, there's a lot
- 2:51:18that we've touched on, but nothing direct because it can't
- 2:51:22be copied. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:51:24I mean, one of the. Most influential?
- 2:51:25Films ever made. It's very difficult to summarize
- 2:51:28unless we've got a whole podcast.
- 2:51:30It's certainly proved you could go to genuinely dark places with
- 2:51:33a main, with a mainstream heartwarming film and audiences
- 2:51:37would follow you there as well, which is surprising considering
- 2:51:40the time. But I'm just going to zoom into
- 2:51:42two different films which are clearly indebted to It's a
- 2:51:45Wonderful Life. We've talked about 1 already.
- 2:51:47You can draw a Direct Line from Pottersville to the Alternative
- 2:51:501985 and Back to the Future two, complete with that scene at the
- 2:51:54cemetery. And Hill Valley is Bedford Falls
- 2:51:57as well. Bedford Falls, that town is
- 2:52:00pretty much a carbon copy of the town in Gremlins as well.
- 2:52:03Yeah. Along with Mrs. Deagle as
- 2:52:05partner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:52:07Which is also Hill Valley. It's the same set, isn't it?
- 2:52:10Yeah, yeah, it. Is the same set and the. 2nd is
- 2:52:12a little left field. It's Blue Velvet, particularly
- 2:52:15the character of Mary. She's got such an evangelic
- 2:52:17quality, just like Laura Dern. Sandy in that film.
- 2:52:21Yeah. And David Lynch.
- 2:52:22Was often referred to as Jimmy. Stewart from Mars for good
- 2:52:24reason. Yes, we are.
- 2:52:27Yeah, I. Think the legacy is huge,
- 2:52:28probably more. Strongly felt today than it was
- 2:52:30in 1946, it seems like. I mean, nowadays it's part of
- 2:52:33Christmas. We said that it's on every
- 2:52:35Christmas Eve. It's become a ritual for
- 2:52:37millions of families. I think that's great.
- 2:52:39A film about community and togetherness becoming a kind of
- 2:52:42communal experience itself. Yeah.
- 2:52:45I mean, the influence on other films is huge.
- 2:52:47You guys have mentioned all the main ones, I think.
- 2:52:49But what I still notice about is legacy is that the message still
- 2:52:52resonates in the time of like social media where everyone's
- 2:52:56making highlights, reels and comparing themselves to others
- 2:52:59far too much. This kind of says your life,
- 2:53:02your ordinary life. It has value, which feels more
- 2:53:05relevant than ever. And it's proved that you can
- 2:53:08make a Christmas film that wasn't all fairies and lights.
- 2:53:10This cause actually genuinely dark deals with despair and
- 2:53:14suicide and corruption. So it changed what a Christmas
- 2:53:17movie could be. I mean, that's just scratching
- 2:53:19the surface, probably. It's an enormous film with a
- 2:53:21legacy to match. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 2:53:24I mean, you can talk. About the influence and.
- 2:53:25Legacy, this one, and you'd find it hard to stop.
- 2:53:28You can see it's legacy in other Christmas films.
- 2:53:30Billy's mother's watching it and Gremlins, Rusty is watching it
- 2:53:33in Christmas Vacation and it really has become a generation
- 2:53:37of film. It's one that's passed down
- 2:53:38again and again. And I think another part of its
- 2:53:41legacy is the legends making this in terms of their personal
- 2:53:44legacy. It's Capra's best film.
- 2:53:46It's Jimmy Stewart's best film to the point where, and I'm sure
- 2:53:49we'll cover this at some point, but part of the horror of
- 2:53:52Vertigo is watching James Stewart and that going but but
- 2:53:55he's George Bailey. He he can't be this disgusting
- 2:53:58and seedy and horrible. Yeah, Yeah.
- 2:54:01Outside of film. Making the film has also had.
- 2:54:03A big impact on a town in New York State.
- 2:54:06Bedford Falls is a fictitious place made-up for the film, of
- 2:54:08course, but there's a town in New York called Seneca Falls
- 2:54:11that claims to be the real life inspiration for Bedford Falls.
- 2:54:15Although there's no documented proof that Capra was inspired by
- 2:54:18Seneca Falls, there are similarities between the two
- 2:54:20towns. Both have famous bridges,
- 2:54:22Victorian E remain streets and a warm small town community.
- 2:54:26And Frank Capra is said to have visited Seneca Falls in 1945
- 2:54:30when he was developing. It's a Wonderful Life.
- 2:54:32Also, Rochester is where Sam is going to build his factory.
- 2:54:36Yeah. And Buffalo is where Harry is
- 2:54:38going to work for his new father-in-law.
- 2:54:39Both of those towns are only around 100 miles away from
- 2:54:42Seneca Falls in upstate New York.
- 2:54:44Well, a Barber from Seneca Falls.
- 2:54:45Said that he cut Capra's hair in 1945.
- 2:54:48So that's like some of the main proof, apparently.
- 2:54:50All right. OK, that's convinced.
- 2:54:55That's it, yeah. Well, if you're.
- 2:54:58Interested though, you can have a look.
- 2:54:59At their website therealbedfordfalls.com right
- 2:55:02and actually put some pretty cool stuff on every year you can
- 2:55:04take a ride on the Bedford Falls Express or you can go to Mrs.
- 2:55:07Martini's pasta dinner or visit the Bells of Bedford Falls or
- 2:55:11take part in the it's a wonderful life participation
- 2:55:14movie. Nice.
- 2:55:15Wow, so sounds. Like the place you're meant to
- 2:55:17be? Matt, get yourself over.
- 2:55:18Go on there next Christmas tell you that now.
- 2:55:20That's all. Go a big.
- 2:55:22Legacy left by it's. A Wonderful Life, then It's
- 2:55:24Become part of Christmas. Had a huge impact on pretty much
- 2:55:27every Christmas movie since. And if you're ever in New York
- 2:55:30during the holidays, maybe pop over to Seneca Falls for some of
- 2:55:33Mrs. Martini's pasta. Oh yeah, bring us some back.
- 2:55:36Go for it be. A carbonara, probably.
- 2:55:42All the right movies ranking. So that's that and it's a
- 2:55:47wonderful. Life.
- 2:55:48We've been through the full making of story, the film in
- 2:55:50detail and it's legacy and now is the time when we decide where
- 2:55:54the film will sit in the all the right movies Canon.
- 2:55:57So, Matt, do you want to start? Us off your.
- 2:55:59Summary and score for it's a wonderful life please yeah you
- 2:56:03fellas know this we. Talk about all the time, but
- 2:56:05I'll go and see this on the big screen every Christmas.
- 2:56:08The Tyneside Cinema Neos, they make that film the centre of
- 2:56:12their festive season. Like the screen it every day,
- 2:56:14usually a couple of times a day. And I usually go on the 23rd or
- 2:56:17Christmas Eve. And it's also sold out
- 2:56:19screening, which is about 200 people.
- 2:56:21And at the end there's always this huge round of applause as
- 2:56:25the credit troll led by you, obviously led by me.
- 2:56:28I'll stand up as well. I mean stand up, stand up for
- 2:56:31this kicking. Off, Yeah, kicking off at the.
- 2:56:33Dawn And I think that's remarkable how much it sent you
- 2:56:37it. And I think that tells you
- 2:56:38everything you need to know about how beloved this film is
- 2:56:41by people, how important it is to people.
- 2:56:44And as I said in the legacy section, it's a generational
- 2:56:46film. It gets passed down from
- 2:56:48generation to generation like a gift because that is absolutely
- 2:56:52what it is. The amount of people who would
- 2:56:55be very different if it wasn't for this film, the way it makes
- 2:56:57them feel about things and look at things is tribute to the
- 2:57:00power of it. And I'm certainly one of them.
- 2:57:02A 10 is not enough to do this film justice, but that is what I
- 2:57:06have to give it anyway. Lovely. 11 for this one, then
- 2:57:09no. Surprise and rusty.
- 2:57:11I mean, we've sang its praises all.
- 2:57:13The way through, it's incredible piece of work.
- 2:57:16It's astonishing that everyone kind of knows it now and it's
- 2:57:20just astonishing that that happens because for 30 years it
- 2:57:22didn't exist, it was just gone. Everybody loves it.
- 2:57:26There's not one person who I've ever met who says I'm not that
- 2:57:28keen in It's Wonderful Life. It doesn't happen because it's
- 2:57:32just such a human story. There's just so many human
- 2:57:34emotions. It's so relevant, it's so
- 2:57:37powerful, it's so well made, it's so well acted.
- 2:57:39Jimmy Stewarts legacy, just well, he will live forever
- 2:57:42because of this film. Don't I Read will live forever
- 2:57:44because of this film, and I have found new ways of looking at
- 2:57:48things. And every year I look forward to
- 2:57:50it because I love how this film makes me feel.
- 2:57:53And us for talking about it. We're all quite different people
- 2:57:57with different interests and different, you know, ways of
- 2:57:59life, but we all feel exactly the same.
- 2:58:02For a film to do that is one of the primary reasons I love this
- 2:58:06medium. And for me, this is one of the
- 2:58:08very, very best of them all. It's an easy 10.
- 2:58:11Lovely easy 10. Yeah, I mean, it's a wonderful
- 2:58:14life, much loved by millions of people.
- 2:58:16No question, the definitive film of one of Hollywood's great
- 2:58:19directors and Frank Capra and one of its great stars.
- 2:58:22And Jimmy Stewart. No question.
- 2:58:24The rest of the cast are brilliant as well.
- 2:58:26Donna Reed, Lionel Barrymore, Henry Travels are all excellent.
- 2:58:30The writing was a few people had their hands in it, but it
- 2:58:33doesn't show in fleshing out the much shorter version from Philip
- 2:58:36Van Doren Stern into a full feature screenplay.
- 2:58:39They did a brilliant job. It's great filmmaking all round.
- 2:58:43So I think talking about It's a Wonderful Life in those terms
- 2:58:46doesn't really tell the whole story.
- 2:58:48It's not just a great film, and it is a great film, it's the
- 2:58:52Christmas classic. I mean, not my favorite
- 2:58:54Christmas film personally, but I think objectively, undoubtedly
- 2:58:58the best Christmas film to me. The message in the themes we
- 2:59:01talked about kindness, community, helping others, you
- 2:59:05stand that Christmas fair. But capitalist exploration of
- 2:59:07that message is way deeper and much more thought provoking than
- 2:59:11what you get anywhere else in any other Christmas movie.
- 2:59:13Yeah, I think it's the most artistic Christmas film, the
- 2:59:16best Christmas film. Still, many decades later.
- 2:59:19That's some achievement and I'll watch it almost every Christmas
- 2:59:22and never grow tired of it, always love it.
- 2:59:24So I also have to go top Marks and give a 10 out of 10.
- 2:59:27Of course, this higher powers. At work here that.
- 2:59:30This film, it's Clarence. It's Clarence.
- 2:59:33It is. Yeah, and look your summary and
- 2:59:35score for it's a. Wonderful life place.
- 2:59:37Yeah. I'm like you, John I.
- 2:59:39Don't think it's my favorite Christmas film, but personal
- 2:59:42preferences aside, it's almost certainly the best.
- 2:59:45I mean, without doubt. There's a reason why it's such
- 2:59:48an Evergreen classic that it's on repeat every year and always
- 2:59:51will be. There are channels that are
- 2:59:52dedicated back-to-back to back marathons of it for days on end.
- 2:59:57I can't imagine anyone would say that they don't like this film.
- 3:00:00I just like you saying Westie. That's an impossibility.
- 3:00:03It is the directions. Deaf, the right and.
- 3:00:05Superb, as are all the performances and that's hugely
- 3:00:09under playing everything at work here.
- 3:00:11I will watch it every year and every year it'll make me look at
- 3:00:14my life and reinforce the things that should be treasured.
- 3:00:18The simple things, things you maybe take for granted, love,
- 3:00:21family relationship, friendships, huge universal
- 3:00:25things that are relatable across the globe and they resonate,
- 3:00:28like you said, right to the top mat.
- 3:00:30They resonate more and more with each passenger.
- 3:00:33I couldn't contemplate giving it anything other than 10 out of
- 3:00:3510. It is a perfect film.
- 3:00:37Amazing. So another.
- 3:00:39Benefit of being an ATR. M patron is that your vote will
- 3:00:42count towards the overall scores for movies we cover.
- 3:00:44So some of the comments on It's a wonderful life from our own
- 3:00:47wonderful community. First up, Bill Heiss, who said a
- 3:00:52Christmas movie that goes dark. The pain on Mr. Gawa's face as
- 3:00:56he's beating the shit out of George.
- 3:00:57George yelling at his kids and making them cry.
- 3:01:00Mr. Potter getting away with it because the fat assholes at the
- 3:01:03bank always get away with it. An uplifting ending where
- 3:01:06humanity and empathy might not save the world, but they might
- 3:01:09make a little corner where we can live. 10 out of 10.
- 3:01:12I'm crying just thinking about it.
- 3:01:13Oh, wonderful words, beautiful sentiments.
- 3:01:16A man whose words. Have more poetry?
- 3:01:18Than mine. I think it's an interesting
- 3:01:21point Bill makes there. I'm not sure it was capital's
- 3:01:23intention, but pot are getting away with it as a rich guy kind
- 3:01:26of takes on a meaning of its own as well.
- 3:01:28Yeah, it does. Yeah.
- 3:01:29Corey steps. Up said.
- 3:01:31I give it a nine. These were my thoughts about it
- 3:01:33when I first watched the movie in 2011 and they still hold true
- 3:01:36today. Even though I can be a cynical,
- 3:01:39bitter and anti social bastard, I really enjoy this movie and it
- 3:01:42did put a smile on my face. I also got teary eyed during
- 3:01:46certain scenes cheering up all the.
- 3:01:49Misery go to this one isn't. It isn't it just.
- 3:01:53That'll be a 10. Next year and.
- 3:01:55Andrew Shaw said. I've watched it every year for
- 3:01:58as long as I can remember and I'm always surprised by how it
- 3:02:00never loses its power to move and delight.
- 3:02:03Easiest 10 I've ever given. Beautiful.
- 3:02:07There you go. So it's one of the best things
- 3:02:08about. Christmas for our.
- 3:02:09Patrons this and pigs in blankets for me were fair enough
- 3:02:15every. Year I eat about. 5000 of them,
- 3:02:17yeah, yeah, as many as possible. And all together, our patrons.
- 3:02:20Rank the film as what do you think?
- 3:02:23Got to be straight 10 kicking. Off if it's another 10.
- 3:02:28It's got to be a 50. A real Christmas.
- 3:02:29Gift this one, of course. It was 10 out of 10.
- 3:02:32Beautiful 70. Percent of votes.
- 3:02:34Were a ten wow there you go wow so.
- 3:02:37That gives us a wonderful life. 50 out of 50 in total.
- 3:02:40Biggest score we've ever given, Yeah, I think.
- 3:02:42It's the biggest score, it is. Yeah, but it must have
- 3:02:45surprises. It no not.
- 3:02:46At all. Not at all.
- 3:02:47So that's everything we have, and it's a.
- 3:02:49Wonderful life, we hope everybody's enjoyed it.
- 3:02:52And you don't wish that you'd never been born.
- 3:02:54That would be drastic. Well, next time out Luke Martin.
- 3:02:57Westie, you're going deep undercover.
- 3:02:59She thinks he's a boring computer salesman.
- 3:03:01Yeah, he's actually a government spy.
- 3:03:03And he's Arnold I and Jim and Jimmy Lee Curtis as well as you
- 3:03:08talk True lies. Yeah, that's a.
- 3:03:11Big 1, isn't it? Lords again, 2 on that one, the
- 3:03:13most expensive. Film ever at the time, I
- 3:03:15believe. Yeah, yeah, it was huge.
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