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- Lucas: So, Luna, we hit episode one-fifty today, and I thought we should talk about something that's been quietly reshaping the creator economy — influencers buying talent agencies. Luna: Talent agencies? As in, the firms that represent other influencers? That's a whole new level of vertical integration. Lucas: Exactly. And it's not just a one-off. Last week, a top lifestyle creator — someone with over eight million followers — acquired a boutique agency that represents about a dozen mid-tier influencers. The deal wasn't huge, maybe twenty million dollars, but the signal is massive. Luna: Twenty million for a dozen creators? That seems steep unless those creators are pulling in serious revenue. What's the agency's cut? Lucas: Typically, agencies take ten to twenty percent of a creator's gross income. If those twelve influencers are making, say, two million a year each, the agency's revenue is somewhere between two and four million. So the buyer is paying maybe five to ten times revenue — a premium, but not outrageous if you believe in growth. Luna: Right, but why would a creator with eight million followers want to manage a dozen smaller ones? Isn't that a distraction from their own brand? Lucas: That's the question I kept coming back to. The obvious answer is control. When you're a top creator, you're at the mercy of your own agency for negotiations, brand deals, and even creative direction. By owning the agency, you control the entire funnel — you get first look at emerging talent, and you can offer them resources that a traditional agency can't. Luna: Like what? Lucas: Access to your audience, for one. A mid-tier creator who gets a shout-out from an eight-million-follower account can see their own numbers jump overnight. That's a powerful recruiting tool. Plus, you can cross-promote within your own roster — it's like a mini media conglomerate. Luna: So it's not just about the fees; it's about the network effect. But isn't there a conflict of interest? If you own the agency, are you really going to push a client into a deal that benefits you more than them? Lucas: That's the elephant in the room. And it's not just hypothetical. There have been cases where creators with agencies have pushed their talent toward brand partnerships that align with their own endorsements, even if it's not the best fit. The FTC has been tightening guidelines around disclosure, but conflict of interest is harder to police. Luna: So, what's the upside for the talent? Why would a mid-tier creator sign with an agency owned by a bigger creator, knowing they might be second fiddle? Lucas: Because the deal often comes with a promise of mentorship and accelerated growth. I talked to a creator who signed with one of these new owner-operated agencies, and she said the biggest draw was that the owner actually understands the day-to-day of creating content — they've been through it. Traditional agencies, she felt, were too corporate. Luna: That makes sense. There's an authenticity factor. But let's talk numbers. What's the actual margin on running an agency? It's not cheap to hire agents and managers. Lucas: Agency margins are typically in the thirty to forty percent range, but that's before salaries and overhead. For a boutique agency with a dozen creators, you might have three or four staff, so the economics are manageable. But the real play isn't the management fees — it's the equity. Some of these creators are structuring deals where they take a stake in the talent's future earnings or even the talent's own brand. Luna: So they're basically becoming mini venture capitalists, funding talent in exchange for a piece of their growth. That's a smart way to diversify. Lucas: Exactly. And this brings me to a broader point: the creator economy is maturing. We've seen creators buy their own analytics firms, licensing platforms, even health insurance. The talent agency is the logical next step — it's the ultimate consolidation of power. Luna: But isn't there a risk of overreach? Running an agency requires a different skill set than creating content. You're managing egos, negotiating contracts, handling legal disputes. Not every creator is cut out for that. Lucas: Absolutely. That's why most of these deals include staying on as a partner or hiring an experienced manager. The creator-owner might be the face, but the day-to-day is run by professionals. It's a bit like a celebrity launching a fashion line — they're the brand, but they bring in industry veterans to handle production and distribution. Luna: So, what does this mean for the future of influencer marketing? Are we going to see a few mega-creators owning everything? Lucas: I don't think it's a winner-take-all. We're more likely to see a tier of mid-sized agencies owned by creators with five to twenty million followers, each with a roster of a few dozen rising stars. They'll compete on their ability to provide not just deals, but audience growth and brand safety. Luna: Brand safety is a big one. If an influencer's name is tied to a scandal, it can hurt the entire roster. Owners have to be careful about who they bring in. Lucas: Right. And that's where the curation comes in. A creator-owned agency can be more selective because they're not just chasing revenue — they're building a brand. One owner I read about said they turn down about eighty percent of the creators who approach them. Luna: That kind of selectivity is what makes the roster valuable. But let's get back to the money. How are these deals being financed? Are creators paying cash, or using earnouts? Lucas: A lot of them are using a mix. Cash for the upfront portion, plus an earnout based on performance over the next three years. That aligns incentives — the seller stays on to grow the agency, and the buyer doesn't overpay if things don't pan out. Luna: That's pretty sophisticated. It sounds like they're applying private-equity tactics to the influencer world. Lucas: And that's exactly the point. We're seeing the professionalization of a space that was once seen as frivolous. As of this summer, there are at least a dozen creator-owned agencies operating in the U.S., and I expect that number to double by next year. Luna: That's a trend worth watching. But let's step back — what's the real takeaway for someone who's listening, maybe a mid-tier creator thinking about their own future? Lucas: The takeaway is that your audience is an asset, and you can leverage it beyond just brand deals. Whether it's starting your own agency, investing in a talent fund, or even buying a small media company, the tools are there. But you need to be strategic — and honest with yourself about your skills. Luna: And if you're a brand or a marketer, this shift means you're going to be negotiating with a more empowered set of creators, not just their agents. Lucas: That's a great point. Marketers need to understand that these creator-owners are sophisticated businesspeople. They'll drive harder bargains, and they'll expect transparency. The days of a brand swooping in with a two-thousand-dollar gift card and a shout-out are long gone. Luna: So, what should we expect next? Are we going to see creators buying up media platforms, or maybe even the brands themselves? Lucas: I think we're heading toward creators owning more of the stack — maybe even their own advertising networks. But that's a conversation for another episode. For now, the talent agency play is a clear sign that the creator economy is building real institutional infrastructure. Luna: And that's worth supporting. Speaking of which, a reminder that this show is ad-free thanks to listeners like you. A couple of dollars a month on buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo makes a real difference in keeping these conversations going. Lucas: Yeah, it's a small gesture that adds up. We appreciate it. Anyway, back to the topic — where do you see this going in the next year? Do you think we'll see a major agency get acquired by a creator? Luna: I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe a top-10 agency with a hundred creators. That would really shake things up. Lucas: I agree. And when that happens, we'll be here to break it down. For now, it's enough to know that the power is shifting — and it's not going back.