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- 0:00Speaker 1: Going behind the music once more with this highlight from
- 0:02Speaker 1: a recent episode of bookedn Rock. Now on to our
- 0:05Speaker 1: guest Don Pile. He's the author of Rough Description, love
- 0:09Speaker 1: Letters and ghost Stories from a Life in Music. Another
- 0:12Speaker 1: great talent that we lost too soon as Steve Albini,
- 0:16Speaker 1: and you have a chapter devoted to him as well.
- 0:18Speaker 1: He was the engineer on the nineteen ninety three album
- 0:21Speaker 1: sport Fish and The Lure of the Bait The Luck
- 0:23Speaker 1: of the Hook he seemed to capture and he's known
- 0:26Speaker 1: mostly for that album he produced for Nirvana in Utero.
- 0:30Speaker 1: He's known for being able to capture that sound of
- 0:34Speaker 1: the drums like you feel like you're in the room
- 0:36Speaker 1: and you write quote. Steve's not so secret ingredient was
- 0:39Speaker 1: his superb skill. Talk about his approach what made him
- 0:43Speaker 1: so unique and able to capture that sound on the drums.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Steve was a sort of magical mix of scientist and
- 0:53Speaker 2: artist where he really studied the properties of microphones, sound,
- 1:03Speaker 2: you know technique, sound dynamics, the science of sound reflection,
- 1:10Speaker 2: all of the you know, pre amplification like you know,
- 1:12Speaker 2: he knew electronics really well. He could take equipment apart,
- 1:16Speaker 2: repair it like I mentioned the book this one recording
- 1:20Speaker 2: that when Phono Com recorded our album with him, the
- 1:24Speaker 2: studio that we went into, all this equipment, which was
- 1:27Speaker 2: part of the reason for choosing this studio, was broken
- 1:31Speaker 2: and so we got there and Steve's like fuck, and
- 1:35Speaker 2: then he spends the whole first day repairing everything in
- 1:38Speaker 2: the studio, and so the guy who owned the studio
- 1:41Speaker 2: afterwards said, like, my studio never worked this well ever. So,
- 1:49Speaker 2: you know, as a sort of technician musician, he was
- 1:58Speaker 2: super skilled, but he also had an extreme and I
- 2:06Speaker 2: don't know what you call it, but a I guess
- 2:13Speaker 2: extreme sense of humor, and you know, kind of like
- 2:16Speaker 2: what I said about punk rock, Like he came from
- 2:18Speaker 2: punk rock thing as well, so he could see the
- 2:23Speaker 2: humor in certain aspects of like violence or really aggressive music,
- 2:32Speaker 2: or music that made no sense that was kind of
- 2:35Speaker 2: like exploratory or kind of like you know, the foundation
- 2:41Speaker 2: of it is noise rather than than melody or scientific
- 2:48Speaker 2: things that made you or or language play that made
- 2:53Speaker 2: you play guitar, that made him play guitar, like language phrasing,
- 2:59Speaker 2: so you know, conventional guitar playing where it was kind
- 3:04Speaker 2: of like you know, making machine sounds or making animal
- 3:08Speaker 2: sounds or sounds that had phrasing like conversation. That was
- 3:14Speaker 2: something I saw him do that I thought was really cool.
- 3:16Speaker 2: It was like playing guitar with like syllables, you know,
- 3:21Speaker 2: like so not in one, two, three, four, five, six,
- 3:25Speaker 2: you know, not that it was like, you know, kind
- 3:30Speaker 2: of like that. So, you know, he had all of
- 3:36Speaker 2: these kind of odd traits and was an estte to
- 3:43Speaker 2: the max, like you know, like love beautiful microphones, would
- 3:47Speaker 2: rather use like, Okay, this microphone is essentially the same
- 3:51Speaker 2: as this one, but this one sure is beautiful. So
- 3:55Speaker 2: he would buy like esoteric microphones from Russia or Poland
- 4:00Speaker 2: because there were such beauty, beautiful things. And like his
- 4:04Speaker 2: band Shlac, you know, their logo to begin with was
- 4:09Speaker 2: the logo for this microphone company, Lomo. And he was
- 4:13Speaker 2: such an intelligent guy too. He could be super caustic
- 4:20Speaker 2: and he's very smart, very analytic, and would sometimes kind
- 4:26Speaker 2: of be, you know, hurtful in his extremness. But he
- 4:34Speaker 2: was someone who over time that I saw become a
- 4:39Speaker 2: much more sensitive and better person, largely because of finding
- 4:48Speaker 2: someone who was just completely accepting of him and being
- 4:53Speaker 2: loved and having kind of like love you know, like
- 4:57Speaker 2: love reflected to and from the person who became his wife,
- 5:04Speaker 2: Heather win A. So you know, I saw him just
- 5:08Speaker 2: become a much more thoughtful and caring person. So he was,
- 5:14Speaker 2: you know, a really wonderful guy. I know there's a
- 5:16Speaker 2: lot of you know, people like after he died that
- 5:20Speaker 2: were like have no time for him or no patience
- 5:26Speaker 2: because of you know, some things that he'd done or
- 5:29Speaker 2: said in the past. But even though I knew some
- 5:32Speaker 2: of those things that people had mentioned, I could sort
- 5:40Speaker 2: of see through it because you know, I understood that
- 5:43Speaker 2: sort of like black sense of humor to say like
- 5:47Speaker 2: the most offensive thing, knowing that this is going to
- 5:52Speaker 2: piss off a person that you want to piss off,
- 5:55Speaker 2: you know, not because he like you know, necessarily felt
- 6:01Speaker 2: some of those things or or you know, believed. I
- 6:05Speaker 2: think even some of the things he was doing. He
- 6:07Speaker 2: was total no bullshit about sort of the commercial aspects
- 6:12Speaker 2: of music. And I think that that was a place
- 6:14Speaker 2: that that really helped shadowy men catch his eye because
- 6:25Speaker 2: I think, you know, I know, he saw the way
- 6:27Speaker 2: we were doing things and it was kind of like,
- 6:31Speaker 2: you know, very much outside of like the music business,
- 6:34Speaker 2: and and you know, with a sense of humor but
- 6:40Speaker 2: not being goofy that we took our playing seriously, but
- 6:48Speaker 2: also you know, acknowledged things like, you know, our foundation
- 6:52Speaker 2: of classical music comes from Bunk's bunny. You know, it's
- 6:55Speaker 2: the same with him. So we had some sort of
- 7:01Speaker 2: similar things, but he was definitely a little more caustic
- 7:06Speaker 2: than we were and sometimes maybe not as sensitive as
- 7:15Speaker 2: we might have been, but he was also a very
- 7:19Speaker 2: sweet and sensitive guy.
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